The process of making Tamahagane the material for Japanese swords. The world's only female craftsman

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@user-ul5sq4ee2x 3 ай бұрын

20分があっという間でした。魂込めた職人さんの作業行程は凄い‼️

@TK-yk3rl 3 ай бұрын

はるか昔から、この作業が行われていたと考えると感慨深いものですね！動画の公開に感謝します❤

@user-bd8je6cb9z 3 ай бұрын

Japanese go full on work ethic with everything they do, especially trades ❤ extremely dedicated culture 😊

@nopelindoputraperkasa5869 3 ай бұрын

素敵な共有ビデオ...とても便利で役に立ちます素晴らしい ..インドネシアの伝統的な金探鉱者からのご挨拶 🇮🇩🌼👍👍

@user-bd8je6cb9z 3 ай бұрын

I love the charcoal they use.. very good quality!!!!😊

@mindsurf13 3 ай бұрын

I remember this family... Old video whit babe in workplace... I like traditional technics. Thank you

@user-ue9zi5gr6e 3 ай бұрын

Que coisa maravilhosa essa menina seguindo a tradição da Família no fabrico do aço ancestral! DEUS Abençoe essa menina e sua família!🙏🙏🙏👍👍

@Arte-Silva-02 3 ай бұрын

Parabéns pelo trabalho!!! Muito talento e dedicação à arte!!!

@Serenity_Dee 3 ай бұрын

Extra style points for lighting the charcoal!

@user-hn4fd8cv9h 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for that video. So interesting.

@terrydelorme 3 ай бұрын

Interesting process. Thank you for sharing this.

@pedroacuna7790 3 ай бұрын

Buen trabajo .. gracias por compartir 💪🇨🇱👍

@NetVoyagerOne 3 ай бұрын

Masterful skill, incredible beauty.

@alexisquim4502 2 ай бұрын

Such a slow and precise beginning is why the steel is so good. Quality can not be hurried.

@mrdynamic8678 3 ай бұрын

Me at my desk pushing papers and slowly dying in front of my computer I want to make swords, the steel is calling me…

@maxq3372 3 ай бұрын

We share the same problem...

@rsa420 3 ай бұрын

awesome loved that thanks for sharing

@arnhemseptember2009 3 ай бұрын

Amazing. Its a really big job to produce this...

@akbartman2902 3 ай бұрын

Great job. Is there plans out there for your style of Tatara furnace? We a Tatara melt last summer and are for a better furnace style then what we used.

@wkjeeping9053 Ай бұрын

The charcoal is used for the carbon to add to the iron sand. Coal was the original way carbon was added to steel.

@JRussomjr 3 ай бұрын

It's a thing of beauty!!

@user-xf4es7eh9y 3 ай бұрын

just shows you how primitive these traditional steels really are for those who just don't understand and insist on ascribing nonsensical mythological properties to a material that is exceeded in most ways by something you can get in a dollar store these days. thank you, science and technology.

@LilMissMurder3409 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. The ignorance out there runs deep. Japanese iron has always been scarce and of poor quality - these techniques, including the folding and refolding of sword blanks don't impart some mythical prowess to the steel or the soul of the blade maker or whatever horseshit people come up with - it's simply to improve the steel and turn what is essentially pig iron into something usable for a blade. It's also annoying when people criticize the use of power hammers etc as not "traditional" or not "befitting the ethos" of Japanese blade making. The fact of the matter is that blacksmiths of old would have used any labour-saving device available if it had been invented at the time.

@grnsouth1204 2 ай бұрын

@@LilMissMurder3409 Very much so. Power hammers have been around for a few thousand years, they were just powered by water. And smiths who weren't fortunate enough to live near water power had manual power hammers... aka strikers/apprentices. Our ancestors were very good at doing their jobs, and just as creative as we are today, just different mediums.

@duskbean886 3 ай бұрын

Knife making with tamahagane please, love the japanese way of making knife and katana.

@cassiusclay7482 3 ай бұрын

Merci pour le partage de la vidéo

@supperwelder 3 ай бұрын

That was a giant thing of beauty ❤❤

@user-nx1cr5oq8m 3 ай бұрын

凄く熱いんだろうな

@maxq3372 3 ай бұрын

Very cool, thanks for sharing with us!!😊

@sachinrv1 2 ай бұрын

These people are extra ordinary. Working next to furnace for 8 hours is hell. Its melting me while I watch this video.

@atom4747 4 ай бұрын

たたらで出来るのは鉧（けら）と呼ばれる大きな塊ですその中の一部に炭素含有量の少ない良質の玉鋼が含まれてますしたがって、動画テロップで33kgの砂鉄から13kgの玉鋼が」できたというのは間違った認識です

@user-tv2wo1be7n 3 ай бұрын

島根県の吉田村で玉鋼を造った事が有ります。仰るようにこれは玉鋼では有りません。これを見てこんなに簡単に出来ると思われるのが悲しいです。日刀保が怒りますね。正しいコメントをありがとぅございました。

@odysseyorchids9507 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@user-tv2wo1be7n does anyone still produce using the old ways ? And is there a video demonstrating the process ? You say easy but this looked difficult. I can only imagine how hard the other way is.

@popoLeon001 3 ай бұрын

日刀保とこちらの作る規模が違うだけで作り方は同じ事をしてると思います。あとはテロップをつけた方の知識不足で13kの玉鋼としてしまったのが間違いとは言えますが、この後の工程もが省かれてるだけでは?、

@atom4747 3 ай бұрын

@@popoLeon001 何が言いたいのかさっぱりわかりません規模や工程などには一切言及してはいないはずですがなぜそこに言及されるのかが私には理解出来ません

@user-ww8mi2qn7z 3 ай бұрын

いわゆるたたらではないですね。

@rbha539 2 ай бұрын

SUPER!!!!! Harte Arbeit💪💪💪💪👍👍👍👍

@brimstonefootsteps4332 3 ай бұрын

Such an amazing process that I have never even considered how it was made. I have SO many questions lol. I was shocked at how HARD the material was when it was still up to forging temperature by how difficult it was to cut, even with the power hammer! I would love to purchase a piece of the slag (impurities) known it was made during this process and by this beautiful craftsman. If that is possible, please let me know :)

@grifftech 3 ай бұрын

Love it

@cx144 3 ай бұрын

de france, un très difficile travail venu du fond des ages, ls Japonais sont très méticuleu et un grand savoir-faire !

@markopolo5695 3 ай бұрын

Thats extremely labour intensive work, how do they make that pay?

@yohkodevilhunter8292 3 ай бұрын

By pricing their knives and swords accordingly.

@reza090282 3 ай бұрын

a job full of patience and calculation....

@jefsplt1973 Ай бұрын

Merci pour cette vidéo et ce morceau de vie avec vous…

@chaiwatpotichanid 4 ай бұрын

Just kupchak trse 🧲different Luther natural meetings very much 🌋thanks 🥰🥰👍

@blason9787 2 ай бұрын

🇫🇷🙏🙏🙏👏👏🇯🇵 Très honoré de partager votre savoir-faire ancestral et de pouvoir le transmettre aux générations futures

@Rukun_Budoyo_Sakti 3 ай бұрын

Halo kami hader menyimak seluduhnya 🙏👍👍👍❤

@SakuraSnow- Ай бұрын

女性の村下ってかっこよすぎる・・！

@odysseyorchids9507 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video and I wish I had a 13th century katana. But I am no Samuri nor rich man. How much does a knife made with your steel cost ?

@simonphoenix3789 2 ай бұрын

I thought tamahagane was made in that square shaped furnace called a tatara? This looks more like a regular bloomery furnace. Yes it uses iron sand, but in the end, that's just a source of magnetite isn't it?

@2fathomsdeeper 3 ай бұрын

Right now I have 300 lbs of magnetite sand that's been magnetically cleaned out 4 times. Would love to have a sword made!

@user-le4fl3dj9l 3 ай бұрын

How many swords can be made from that run of the furnace?

@alibolala6 3 ай бұрын

Any differences of quality tamahagane made by modern furnace compare to traditional furnace?

@antoniosbar 3 ай бұрын

just the personal touch the tradition

@user-bw4ee2wp2j 2 ай бұрын

昔の人が機械無しで名刀作ってたのとか、凄すぎて意味分からん。

@user-kf8sh7oi9i 2 ай бұрын

以前タタラ見たけど、より身近でハガネの工程見れた 😊

@roeberdt-bT.1021 3 ай бұрын

"to burn the sun for the fools amusement... Go ask the thunder.,... My heart is too old for here."

@Consequator 3 ай бұрын

This is exactly the same as how primitive technologies does it too, minus the skimming of impurities.

@mpetersen6 3 ай бұрын

Wait until Crom finds out they have discovered the Riddle of Steel.

@carloko08 3 ай бұрын

It surprises me that despite the respect and responsibility that the japanese have in their jobs, none of these workers had safety shoes or thick leather gloves that are BASIC in forging and foundry work, nor did they have dust masks or goggles or they didn't have facial deflectors either, nor did they have helmets on, I mean, were they never instructed about the importance of using PERSONAL SAFETY EQUIPMENT? very interesting job, even more so that a lady is taking charge of a job like this, but WHAT ABOUT THE MANDATORY PERSONAL SAFETY ELEMENTS THAT EVERY WORKER MUST HAVE AND USE? That's why I told that it seemed strange to me.

@grnsouth1204 2 ай бұрын

Good lord. Pop OSHA's teet out of your mouth.

@benwinkel 3 ай бұрын

When they separate the ironsands with the magnet, does the 'waste' product contain precious metals like gold?

@antoniosbar 3 ай бұрын

yes it could be, and de depuration liquid too

@benwinkel 3 ай бұрын

@@antoniosbarHolding on to traditions is very inefficient.

@antoniosbar 3 ай бұрын

@@benwinkel yeaah! i agree! but a tradicional made things always incrase the price like a famous phrase "hand made" inscription, also make thinks one by one, become in a "special item" for the customers and increase a perception of have a "unique" item [sorry about my english] but yeah in resume you have the reason specially from the point of view of the industry or massive production cost, and eficience

@2fathomsdeeper 3 ай бұрын

Most gold will be left behind, but there's always some that gets caught between grains. That's why it's best to pan any black sands a couple of times before magnetically separating it. Depending on the grade, the magnetite sand will permanently magnetize if a strong magnet gets near it.

@grnsouth1204 2 ай бұрын

@@benwinkel lol, they aren't holding onto it to try to be competetive with modern steel manufacturing. They make steel for traditional swordsmiths and other tradition japanese cutlery makers/smiths. And it is economically worth it, check out the prices for a traditionally made nihonto from tamahagane. They're making their money.

@takoyakiosm 4 ай бұрын

大変なお仕事ですね。 ( ；´Д｀)熱そう

@mecha_ozi 4 ай бұрын

キュポラとたたら、やってることは同じなのになんでたたらは鋼になってキュポラは鋳鉄なんだろう？　原料の違いはあるけど鋳鉄ってどうやって最初つくったのか疑問に思った。炭素の含有量を調整できるのかな？

@sean2540 4 ай бұрын

炉の形は似ていますが銑鉄生産は低温でケラを作るのでは無く、より高温で鉄を溶解させてより炭素量を高める事によって銑鉄を作る事を目指します。ケラであるハガネと銑鉄の違いは炭素量が少ないか多いかの違いだけですが、銑鉄は溶解しているのでケラより多くの不純物を含みます。例えば砂鉄に含まれるチタンや銅、硫黄、マンガンなどもケラより多く溶け込みます。最近の研究では銑鉄を下ろして鋼に変えるとこの不純物が介在して相州伝の地金に近いものが出来るというものがあり、銑押し法で日本刀の制作にチャレンジしている刀匠さんもいるそうです。特にチケイ、イナズマ、スナガシ、などの刀身のにある働きはチタン介在物によるものではないかと言われており、地金が柔らかいのにチケイが出るのは固いマルテンサイトによって現れるのでは無く、チタンの介在を伺わせます。

@user-hp2do9dk9z 3 ай бұрын

他のチャンネルの宣伝になるけど刀剣を作ろうで「たたら」の回があるのでそこをご覧になると分かりやすいかも

@user-xy7gm9jp2c 3 ай бұрын

Примерно по такой же технологии производили железо славянские племена. Из глины делалась круглая печь, в которую загружать железную руду собранную на болотах. Руда перемешивалась с древесным углем. В печи зажигался огонь, и мехами продувался воздух. Когда печь оставалась её разбивали, и извлекали крицу, и так же проковывали, чтобы уплотнить металл, и выгнать из него растворённый воздух.

@franciscomartiboigues4342 3 ай бұрын

El magma ,acero wotz,Damasco varias culturas utilirazaron esas tolvas con mineral de hierro en polvo i csrbon vegetal

@qiwang9486 4 ай бұрын

Nice job. Beautiful girl

@emildraxineanu7037 3 ай бұрын

Lots of respect for Japan and Japanese people and their cultural values love them . But I found it a bit hard to watch the lady doing all the heavy lifting and hard work while he was 2:28 just wandering around. And I know he's the master Smith but still. Again not a complaint I respect the master Smith but he should realise that when they are done with the Smithing work she probably has to cook dinner to lol😅

@Dorian-hx3xv 2 ай бұрын

I somehow get the impression this isn’t her”regular job”.

@grnsouth1204 2 ай бұрын

She wants to make steel. Why should he treat her any different than any other apprentice?

@leonidas231 8 күн бұрын

can be done by anyone if you have the time and recourses

@user-hp2do9dk9z 3 ай бұрын

この夫婦はヒルナンデスで取り上げられていました。

@TonyFromSydney 3 ай бұрын

She is beautiful.

@candam4648 2 ай бұрын

炭で製鉄するんですね。前の仕事で電気炉で溶かしていたのでこんなに時間がかかるんですね。

@lawriealush-jaggs1473 3 ай бұрын

Gosh! I haven't been so bored for ages. A little editing might not go astray.

@otaniari1652 3 ай бұрын

Здравствуйте Подскажите что за железный порошок вы используете спасибо за ответ.

@Chugunov_Igor 3 ай бұрын

Это местные железосодержащие пески. Не японцам можно расслабиться. Штука достаточно уникальная

@user-xd6vv6gx9n 3 ай бұрын

玉鋼って自然界に存在する石だと思ってた

@unecochan 3 ай бұрын

鋼玉との混同もありそう

@jimpartridge9634 3 ай бұрын

It looks like Godzilla eczema when finished.

@user-to1nk5mk9x 3 ай бұрын

初めて見ました。

@user-bg8wu8mw2w 3 ай бұрын

職人してる女性って本当にかっこいいと思う

@user-vm7nn1fp9e 3 ай бұрын

Тамахаганэ (яп. 玉鋼, «алмазная сталь») - разновидность японской стали, известная с древности и используемая для изготовления клинков мечей и ножей. Производится из железа, добываемого в префектуре Симане на западе Хонсю. Оно добывается в форме чёрного песка, точнее чёрного пескообразного магнетита (Fe3O4) - сатэцу (яп.

@jianyang6281 3 ай бұрын

制作高碳钢？

@udod342 3 ай бұрын

Nice work. But the be bore job.

@user-ep5de3zg4o 4 ай бұрын

女性の方も村下ができるんだな

@hakuto6814 3 ай бұрын

Гарна робота

@elverdugoblade 3 ай бұрын

5:13 esta tomando mate?

@ariellarrosa2095 3 ай бұрын

nop

@masayoshik2369 3 ай бұрын

タタラではないですね

@KSCPMark6742 2 ай бұрын

Basically, they have to go through these elaborate steps because the ore is low grade crap, right?

@user-sz5vx8lz9f 2 ай бұрын

Процесс природы/постепенность/ Лишь ЭВОЛЮЦИЯ смогла/ Единственная/непременно/ Не подведёт Миг/никогда!//

@snufkinN_trail_razor 3 ай бұрын

東京で作ったものも玉鋼っていうのか

@dp.tube-jp 3 ай бұрын

(・_・D フムフム　　興味深い！！！

@edsoncarrasco6804 4 ай бұрын

No processo tradicional o forno e de barro (tatara)

@yurin0296 2 ай бұрын

むらげ!?

@zeromemory7684 3 ай бұрын

最初のマッチで着火するシーン、めちゃくちゃカッコいいけどあれ多分一酸化炭素ですよね。怖すぎる。

@poppawolf26 2 ай бұрын

I follow them on Instagram....

@YouTubeeeerigalovka Ай бұрын

Давно уже проспали все свои плюшки,ширпотреб лепят с умным хлебалом!

@megalepivolos 3 ай бұрын

are you sister of Itsuki Hirata the MMA fighter?

@iplanes1 2 ай бұрын

How can you have a craftsman who is a woman? She is a craftswoman or an artisan.

@norkhach1715 3 ай бұрын

Cutting charcoals…BS dude BS

@user-de3lg3ep6b 2 ай бұрын

目線より上の作業、そしてこのような場所への子供の誘導は恐ろしい、

@ralfrosenkranz1417 3 ай бұрын

The Japanese get on my nerves a little, they make everything a science, even when splitting charcoal they pay attention to precision, as if that would have any impact on the end product. You can also exaggerate everything.

@grnsouth1204 2 ай бұрын

Well in this case it does have an effect on the end product. The charcoal needs to be properly sized for sufficient airflow, slag drain, and iron contact. Too big and the iron sand falls to the bottom, too small and you have crap airflow, slag doesn't fall properly and the iron doesn't get enough heat to melt and take on carbon to become steel.

@theallseeingmaster 3 ай бұрын

This video show us the very definition of a 'long, hot, grueling day of work'. Good job, young lady. It was a pleasure watching the process. このビデオは、まさに「長く、暑く、過酷な一日の仕事」の定義を示しています。頑張ったよ、お嬢さん。その過程を見るのは楽しかったです。

@randdresearch 3 ай бұрын

why don't they wear mask?

@user-fp6gd1bd9p 3 ай бұрын

一刀両断TVホイキーチャンネルもよろしくお願いします🙇

@TooldeJapan 3 ай бұрын

ホイキーチャンネルさんの玉鋼の動画も拝見させていただきました！

@user-jc7im8ob7o 2 ай бұрын

炭をいじる時はマスクしないと鼻の穴が真っ黒になるよ😸

@user-wb5wm5jy7i 3 ай бұрын

ホンマもんは目つきが違うね。

@maruasahi6588 15 күн бұрын

すみません、昔はもっと不純物が入っているのでは？

@moitoi3226 2 ай бұрын

Rien ne vaut un Hatori Henzo.....

@gyoden01 3 ай бұрын

たたら製鉄見てていつも思うんだけど、炉の上部で燃えてるCOガスを送風口に戻せば熱効率上がるし燃料効率も上がるから良いはずなんだけど送風口にジェットポンプ付けて出口ガスを一部取り込めば構造は複雑にならないし流量調節すれば酸素量の可変も出来て炉のコントロールも出来る

@tolosa.provincia 3 ай бұрын

って意見してきたらどーすか？

@vamps15me 3 ай бұрын

Look like not a quality tamahagane

@user-mc1nr2pf3r 3 ай бұрын

鼻の穴真っ黒になりそう

@user-kq4sv9fs6b 2 ай бұрын

ピアス外したらいいのでは？オシャレは必要ないでしょ。

@Castanetta1073 2 ай бұрын

うーん、これは女性差別と言われてしまうのかもしれませんが、それって有りなの？　って感じです。というのも、日本刀って「美術品」なんですね。いや、日本刀というのは、その機能美を前提とした実用品としての刃物なんだ。という意見は分かります。でもね、それなら玉鋼って必要ないんですよ。機能性を追求してタングステンなどを含有した、合理的な合金は、材料工学の観点から言えば玉鋼よりかなり高機能なんです。そりゃそうでしょ？　江戸時代から続く玉鋼の技術が、なにか神秘的なパワーを持っていて、現代工学の結晶である合金より機能的だなんて、ありうるわけがないじゃないですか。じゃあ、日本における日本刀に、この合金の使用が認められるかといったら、それは認められないんですよ。だって、それは「凶器」だから。日本国に、そんな人を切断することに合理化された凶器なんて、一般人が所持することは認められないんですね。だから、「玉鋼を使用し、伝統的な工程に従って作られた日本刀に限り、伝統工芸品として、その所有を認める」ってことになってるんです。だから、日本刀は美術品なんです。「伝統的でない、新しい風」みたいのは必要ないんです。だって、伝統的であるからこそ殺人武器である日本刀は、かろうじて日本で所有を認められてるんですから。それは割と徹底的で、例えば海外で美術的価値のあるサーベルを購入してきた男性が刀剣登録をしようと思ったら、「それ、美術品じゃないから。凶器だから、使えないように破壊してね」という判例が最高裁で出たこともあります（サーベル登録拒否事件）日本刀というのはグローバルに価値を認められてますから、外国人の鍛冶師なんかもいるわけですが、本当にこの概念が理解できなくて困っていますよ。話を戻すと、そんな背景があるのに、「女性村下」ってアリなんですか？　ってことです。そもそも、日本刀は伝統を重視するからこそ日本という社会の中で認められている存在なのに、「女性だけど玉鋼作っちゃった」って、それありなんすか？という疑問が生まれますよね。だって、玉鋼って伝統的には女人禁制で作られるものですから。いや、個人的にはそんなの全然アリだと思ってますよ？　国が日本刀の新しいありかたを認めない閉鎖的な態度のほうがおかしいと思ってますから。でも、このことで窮屈な思いをしている刀工はたくさんいるんですよ。だって実際、「なんでもありだった時代の軍刀のほうが、今の日本刀より高性能だ」とかいわれちゃってるんですから。そんな状況下では、女性村下という存在を肯定的に見ることはできないですね。

@user-dt2vd7ee4k 5 күн бұрын

何を言いたいんですか　女性差別ですか