The Proud Family Exposes Makeup Industry💋💋💋

[@geardog24]

Watching Lacienega get cancelled was top tier comedy 🎭

[@TonyTurner]

Lacienega Boulevardez is CLOSED ‼🚷

[@missebone]

That brought joy to my heart to see La cienega get canceled couldn't stand that girl from the first installment of the problem family

[@PHSDM104]

Long time coming

[@lashundamartin7777]

I love the "guys creating trends/looks for girls" comment because I think they're bringing up how in reality men do create a lot of things made for women. Just like how a lot of men write female artist lyrics and tell them how to dress. But Tony Ooooohh, let's not even start with jlo. 😂😂😂😂I love Ashanti to death, so I can't stand that lady, I remember thinking so many jlo songs were Ashanti as a kid.

[@TonyTurner]

Sometimes the biggest weapon one can possess is social media 🤳🏾

[@haileybalmer9722]

I never would have had any kind of real issue with Jeffery Starr if it wasn’t for his weird, intense white nationalist stuff. Like, he keeps saying he’s not, but then he keeps posting the same things. But yeah, I think you’re right. The classism really turned me off of the makeup community. It was just so out of touch and so sleazy. “IM RICH, YOURE POOR, GIVE ME MORE MONEY SO YOU LOOK RICH LIKE ME” yeah, no thanks. I think I’ll just learn to moisturize my skin properly and avoid all of that.

[@wolvekrome2475]

I remember when they did the credit card episode. Got me to see what a scam credit cards were and too this day have never gotten one

[@TonyTurner]

I might do that episode soon ‼

[@wolvekrome2475]

@@TonyTurner hope you do since it was a good one

[@JCArules13]

Wait, then how did you build the credit necessary for stuff like getting an apartment or loan? I was always told just to get a credit card for that purpose and use it as sparingly as possible or in an emergency.

[@RockTheDragon]

As someone who was super into the makeup community a few years ago. I have to say that a lot of people got tired of the drama that came from certain makeup influencers. I know it is still an issue on TikTok. Personally I used to wear a lot of makeup but now I focus more on skin care and being conscious of not causing more unnecessary waste from makeup. I have saved so much money not buying makeup palettes and trying to keep up on trends. I love your videos btw!

[@arissamazumder]

also there was a lot of drama, like james charles getting exposed as a groomer(?) and such

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@Chelsea_journey1]

@@arissamazumderyup. I heard about that and ever since then I don’t support him.

[@pbg624]

Something I never understood is people and parents were acting like men wearing makeup was a new thing when it isn’t. Back during the 1500 up until around the middle of the 1800 men wore makeup. Mainly the rich men because make up showed status. It was part of history. Men stopped wearing make up because it was a new era and society deemed it not normal for men to wear makeup.

[@LaCienegaBoulevardez]

Makeup Boy really fumbled the bag trying to put Proud back in her place. Truth is, he was just like her, he let the success get to his head and was a big jerk to everybody and we all knew it. Only difference is that we tolerated it a whole lot more from him because he was well established and was absolutely AMAZING at what he did with his products which ironically helped with our confidence whenever we weren't directly in his presence. He also gave good advice that actually proved beneficial despite his greediness. Proud on the other hand was just a loud mouth who as always was going overboard trying to prove she's right about EVERYTHING and nearly crippled society in the process!! I only tried preventing that by pointing this out to her but yet 'I was the one who needed to be put in my place because you know... I'm LaCienega Boulevardez' 🙄 But hey, she ultimately got what was coming to her for a change... 😌

[@TonyTurner]

😏😏😏

[@JCArules13]

I was about to get SO MAD until I saw that username!

[@silvanalucas6403]

I feel like someone can be flamboyent with out being annoying. Like jams charls lacs the natural charisma that makes the act work

[@TonyTurner]

Agreed ‼ Makeup Boy was the perfect exaggeration of that

[@silvanalucas6403]

@TonyTurner like theas people think there fredy mercury and no there's no natural charisma there not a vibe it's too much of an act and it's too strong.its giving clad clown that can't play to act right because it's clear there trying .it's cringe

[@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd]

James is boring and a creep, idk how he still has people watching him honestly

[@GloomyAngel-444]

Jams charls

[@Afrogirrl]

@@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd exactly he’s been caught talking to young boys multiple times.

[@cartoonishclaude]

I don’t think it would be so bad if Penny canceled Dijonay and Lacienga from time to time.

[@ianhardy9375]

The answer is all three of them, it depends on the person, the main character and how social media is use in terms of the situation, it raises awareness and question by those who view it, resorting to how they feel or respond to the subject

[@Neku628]

I recall Tucker from Danny Phantom bitching when Sam made him goth. "Girls like black fingernail polish on them!" That was the line I recall him saying in that episode with the gorilla and Skulker. Correct me if I am wrong if I got the episode mixed up for another one. The 2000s were very anti-boys doing makeup.

[@mocksythegreat9112]

I swear I see your videos and it's an easy yes to watch them.

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼🔥

[@entertainmentpowerfuchs5744]

I think It's bizzare that Disney + Reference James Charles. The Things he did are not child friendly.

[@jadacampbell9331]

It's intentional to expose the toxicity we are all capable of

[@acequeenofthedeck8431]

As a woman, i dont find an issue with men who wear makeup and have a social media platform (as long as they arent creeps, toxic or discriminatory). What i will say is that i kinda wish there was a woman makeup influencer who was as big as people like james charles and Jeffery star (both who are bad people). Boys can wear whatever they want- i dont care. Im a woman but i choose not to wear makeup just bc i cant be asked to put in all that time and effort XD. I have a level of respect and admiration for people who do wear makeup- especially if it takes hours to do (no matter what gender you are)! Men can be makeup influencers, i only have an issue with the big makeup influencers (men, women and everything inbetween) bc they always seem to be toxic- sometimes even doing things illegal! Maybe since im not in the makeup community thats why i cant name one famous woman make-up influencer (im sure they exist), i just find it a little weird how the biggest names are all men (practically all of which have done some questionable things).

[@mothdreams]

Ngl, even the female influencers have questionable af practices for the most part. That whole community is iffy

[@acequeenofthedeck8431]

@mothdreams oh absolutely! I'm so sorry if it came off as me saying that women influencers are all innocent- the whole community (for the most part) is so toxic!

[@JCArules13]

I mean, there have been women that big, like there’s one woman who fakes a Boston accent cent that’s really big and Nikki tutorials. You’re just forgetting that one of the things that makes these guys so viral and well known is the controversy!

[@Saltheslab]

As someone who is non-binary and more into woman/woman presenting people. I think it's fine for men to wear makeup. Men wearing makeup isn't a new thing as much as people think it is. Its been a thing for thousands of years actually. Also I think men that are able to show feminity and aren't afraid to show that are actually more manly then the "traditional masculine." sterotype men.

[@rndmpinkiepie64]

I don't think it's Makeup Boy, Penny or social media, but the power that social media can give you and the mindset and ego some people get when getting so much attention. As for boys doing makeup, it doesn't bother me at all. I've seen guys do makeup better than women and look good doing it. I like painting my nails as well, I just don't because my work area is extremely conservative and it could end with me being jobless. I can only hope more people stop worrying so much about other people and how they live their lives so we can all just live in better harmony and peace. It's actually not that difficult, but people just make it difficult

[@kerisaltchannel3817]

0:07 the cheeks 😂 idk why influencers do that cheek style To me it looks weird

[@bandyamberm5858]

I really got a Manny MUA vibe from the Makeup Boy!

[@TonyTurner]

I think it's all of them combined ‼

[@SarahJareth]

Patrick Star too

[@oscar_editz]

12:13 penny should’ve canceled dijonay 😂

[@TonyTurner]

Dijonay finally knew to keep her mouth shut😅

[@juliemesser2053]

​@@TonyTurner😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PHSDM104]

REAL👏TALK👏

[@clarissawestbrook2203]

Aaliyah released her debut album 30 years ago today. This was another insightful video Tony. ❤❤❤❤

[@Chelsea_journey1]

I do makeup content on TikTok and KZbin and watching this episode opened my eyes throughly on how people in the beauty community who started from the bottom turn into snobs when they get to the top. I know for sure if/when I get to the top I will stay the same and be nice. My dad even said when it comes to these celebrities that we like we’re technically their boss because without us they wouldn’t be anything.

[@SarahJareth]

The pandemic really put a damper on the makeup industry no one really bothered to wear full face makeup when masks were necessary and skin care became more trending. Also people just didnt have the money to throw at the latest new makeup item and were really into dupes of high end products

[@RinaIsForever]

ill say one thing- i never wear make up never will it just doesn't feel right on my skin. I like to be natural if anything I'll do skin care and this is coming from a female, but I see a guy doing make up and painting his nails. I really don't care to be honest because that just means they're being themselves. I have a lot of guy, friends who wear make up and "products only for women" and I also watched a lot of KZbinrs who are gay and they like to wear the color pink glittery make up and they love dolls and honestly, I love to see it. I don't get why people care so much about one thing supposed to be for women and the other one is supposed to be for men that shits so wack

[@mickdonald7885]

Eww that's weird

[@RinaIsForever]

@@mickdonald7885 so are you but we still move🤷🏽‍♀️

[@1986BNick]

I wish this Cartoon would get A REAL BULLY......

[@TonyTurner]

Maybe next season 👀

[@FearlessFighterAkida]

Honestly as someone that was pretty involved in goth/emo communities when I was younger, guys wearing makeup is not a new invention to me lmao

[@IKNOWUFUKINLYIN]

The voice behind make up boi is really a tictok personality

[@Neku628]

Yeah, I remember when makeup artists were taking over KZbin, especially the true crime community a few years ago. I still recall some controversy where some little girl got into her mom's makeup and she got slapped. Then the mom makes a video about how she spent this much on her favorite influencer's makeup and justified beating her little girl up for the cost. Remember that backlash?

[@lindenbree9188]

I'm a woman who's not super into makeup, but personally I don't care if there's male makeup influencers. The technique of makeup - contouring, picking the right colours, etc., is all the same no matter your gender. So I see no reason why a dude skilled at it shouldn't be allowed to teach others

[@GiftedSince92GiftedSince92]

Great video bro! As a consumer of makeup cosmetics the makeup industry is toxic. It has gone too far with over the top images and marketing. People that have confidence wearing makeup can rock it. I feel self expression in terms of makeup is healthy. People can create their own looks, styles, and experiment different colors. Makeup is a way of creativity and art expression. However, this is what gets on my nerves with today's makeup industry.........it's the popularity and fame that is the main focus. I shop at Ulta Beauty, Sephora, and etc. I get the products that work for me. Plus, I see this high over demand of high prices with makeup products. Literally, it's a way for people to get into the "latest" and "trendy" products to buy. Whatever people choose to spend their money that's fine. But just be aware of the "condescending" ways of selling and marketing cosmetic products. This episode is off the chain!!! There are social media influencers that are "Jeepers Creepers". We are living in a world of "oversaturation without quality" mindset. Lol! 💯

[@TonyTurner]

Right‼😅

[@AJtheSiren]

The makeup community imploded for a lot of reasons, but mainly the Tati-James-JStar feud kicked things off a few years ago. Things were not the same after that, and I think this episode was a response to what happened. I remember watching this episode a year or so after all of the makeup community took that hard hit, and JC got outed as a potential predator. It was like one thing after another and people becoming disillusioned with the Makeup side of youtube with every event. JStar's Makeup line literally is half of the money mogul it used to be because of the fallout, and Tati Westbrook abandoned her makeup line because of the market taking a huge hit. Honestly, Tati is one of the few that came out relatively unscathed. Yeah she lost a lot, but she doesn't have the crazy allegations that the other two had, she was actually one of the first people that started the conversation, even though it was more than just the odd behavior from both parties she talked about. It was a crazy time.

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Guys doing makeup is chill Love it when they wear nail polish 🥰

[@mickdonald7885]

Ew no don't do that

[@haileybalmer9722]

@@mickdonald7885booo! Booooooooooo!

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

@@mickdonald7885 boo 🍅🍅🍅

[@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd]

@@mickdonald7885they should do it more just because you don’t like it

[@kenya1067]

"If she really did all of that too bad for her." 😂😂 I need to add this phrase. Because seriously lol

[@abby-cadabby]

I do agree that the second episode is the best one in the series and this is coming from someone who doesn't care for the series. Lacienega getting canceled made my day. Too bad Penny didn't cancel Dejane, that would've been awesome and maybe make her think on the kind of friend she is. Though, in some way the episode reminded me of the Hollywood episode in the original series.

[@juliemesser2053]

"With great power comes great responsibility."

[@improvwithlions4173]

Seems like a shockingly on-point episode. Or close enough, anyways. Yeah, maybe a little cringey here and there, but it doesn't just seem like an episode about internet bullying on myspace from 2005 rebranded to tiktok, or as hamfistedly tonedeaf as some of their episodes on racism were.They actually took a stab at addressing something kids have to worry about now that wasn't really the case 20 years ago. Really does remind me of this show I used to watch called the Proud Family, lol. I also like that they allow Makeup Boy to catch flak for his behaviour without throwing the idea of flamboyant men or men who wear makeup under the bus. (Instead of coating him in bubble wrap to avoid offending anybody). Of course he's allowed to ride off into the sunset since his actions weren't really that much worse than what the girls get up to on a regular basis, lol.

[@Kilvieo]

I believe that it's all three

[@improvwithlions4173]

I know there was concerns about the algorithm favouring men's faces over women's. How To Cook That covered the concerns. I think James Charles is clearly talented and his audience responded to that, despite the social stigma. And of course there was some live by the sword die by the sword kinda drama. But I wonder if KZbin's AI had it's part to play in burying other players in the community.

[@Afrogirrl]

Almost every “female” industry is ruled by men. Cooking, makeup, fashion. You can interpret it as a good or bad thing lol

[@TonyTurner]

True 😏

[@PHSDM104]

[cough] Victoria's Secret [cough]

[@anthonyrivera4547]

1st! Lets go, "if it wasnt for tony, TONY oh ohhh"

[@TonyTurner]

🔥🔥🔥

[@YusukeKnight]

Good discussion

[@TonyTurner]

Thanks ‼👌🏾

[@YusukeKnight]

@@TonyTurner no problem

[@kyrstieaddison8651]

Happy Saturday tony I love ur 2pac shirt I liked make up boy

[@Kazuma_kiryu311]

I don't wear makeup but people got tired of the makeup community drama and all and and also James Charles and Jeffery star and like. Most people in the community just being terrible people (guys and girls) and for me idc if it's a guy of a girl with a makeup tutorial channel as long as they aren't scummy and are good at their jobs, some parents need to know that makeup is not just for girls, guys used to wear it and still do in some cultures. As for if it was makeup boy or penny or social media, it's social media, it's all 3 imo, they didn't use their platform correctly but also social media itself kinda tends ti change people, hope my wording was ok.

[@the-nina-beans88]

This episode remind d me why reboot characters shouldn’t never have smart phones… Something about seeing past characters from a different time/ generation rebooted for the current time and using smart phones / social media just rubbed me wrong.

[@ghoulchan7525]

i personally think it can be hilarious if pulled of right. or at least has an implied in show explanation. in yu-gi-oh they basically went from the VHS era to the smartphone era in what in universe must have been like 6 months. kinda implies Kaiba pushed technology forward a ton. which given the stuff Kaiba pulls of in the show is very on brand for him. but i have seen cases where it would make no sense. i think if a show has technology that doesn't exist in our world or is too advanced you can suspend your disbelief enough for the sudden appearance of current day tech in an old property to fit in. though seeing Goku from dragonball with a smartphone will always feel weird. the guy just has the vibes of someone who would have some old Nokia or no phone at all.

[@the-nina-beans88]

@@ghoulchan7525 oh yes Goku holding a smartphone was definitely odd. In the world of dragon ball it would feel advanced Pokemon is another example of them going from Skype call stations to the romtom Pokemon being part of your smartphone/ tablet ( in horizons the smart phone expands into a tablet.) But I like to see in the next Pokemon game when you open up your menue your character should have an idle animation of them scrolling on the smartphone

[@ghoulchan7525]

@@the-nina-beans88 i mean for DB they have the Capsule tech, time travel. and quite a few other things. but at the same time they all had a retro feel to them. heck they have flying cars. for pokemon yeah it's not too out of place these days. but you def feel it kinda. but at the same time the progression in the game series feels normal. the anime?? not as much. them having and idle animation would be cool.

[@kerisaltchannel3817]

2:37 I wonder how they got away with this word tbh

[@ChristaBlack-gn8ys]

I think the message was there in this episode, but I didn't like the underlined emphasis on it being "bad" for boys to be the face for makeup. Like yes, there's obviously misogyny involved at times; especially when it comes solely on telling women how they "should" look. But there should have been a small moment where they acknowledged (makeup is for everyone) not to mention the girls other than Penny were under the influence of being pick me's and do that quite often without male influence.

[@greenisnice333]

Personally, I love guys wearing nail polish. I think nail polish looks good on everyone and it’s just great to see. Makeup, I don’t really care. If you want to wear it, wear it. The makeup community as a whole just sucks. There are so many creators that are horrible and untrustworthy or just straight up disgusting people. There are very few creators that are still good in that community. At the end of the day, wear nail polish if you want, wear makeup if you want. If you like it and you aren’t hurting yourself or anyone else, do what you want

[@sparrklerains8972]

Any industry will always favor men

[@GraveyardMaiden]

100% like hell the entire make up and fashion industry centers around the male gaze and that's now being pushed onto girls who haven't even left elementary school

[@ItzDarlinglps]

Why do makeup boy look like James Charles

[@juliemesser2053]

Because James Charles voices him.

[@Stargazing88]

I just discovered your channel and subscribed and I’m hoping that when you receive your play button that you put it with the m&m cups

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You. Definitely ‼🔥

[@shanereignz8662]

Is makeup boy voiced by Bretman Rock?

[@TonyTurner]

Yes

[@yusukeGum]

In the 18th century 19th century if you were a nobleman that comes from royalty makeup was more masculine on a nobleman and also on a noble woman because men and women at that time period in theplay 18th century they were makeup in their faces these noble man was straight but for them makeup was considered more masculine to them because it makes them look very attractive as men and very royalty at that time peasant women did not have access to makeup 14:49 it's very interesting though that people question that boys should not wear makeup because it's not made for them 14:49

[@Nakia11798]

This episode was kinda I'm RESPONSE to the KZbin makeup community falling apart.

[@YUN6_V3NUZ]

james charles vibes

[@elenaofavalormoanadisneypr6893]

Sooooo Degrading

[@Catherinewelter-z6d]

It's ok for a male to do make-up or make-up tips I just don't like them being a jerk about it and making others feel shamed for how they look.

[@Reiameino]

the reason the beauty community came to such a downfall is largely because of Dramageddon 1 and 2 dropping huge nukes on the careers of the largest hitters and making people less inclined to start drama, which is what most people are likely to watch outside of avid makeup fans curious about specific video content

[@something_tolazy]

Make boy = James Charles (just a theory A FILM THEORY lol)

[@PHSDM104]

Didn't he voice him?

[@yusukeGum]

Make a boy AKA Sebastian Boyle well it's true that I always stop that makeup was for girls well it is appealing for girls because I always see women wearing makeup even my mother told me that makeup is for girls so this is how I've been programmed of course yes it's because of society and gender role now in this day people say that if I should wear makeup if I want to and I said probably no I am not that used to it at all if someone tells me that I should wear women clothing I'll say no also but if some males want to wear makeup but why women dresses is their business 14:49

[@carmelcutie1991]

There literally only a handful of dudes, all gay btw, got big enough in the makeup industry. James Charles because he was the first male covergirl spokes person. Jeffery Star because of his makeup brand. Mannymua, and a few others

[@JCArules13]

I personally didn’t like the line Penny said about men telling women how to wear their makeup. It felt sexist. And honestly, I don’t care if a man or a woman is the famous makeup artist on KZbin. There are STILL a ton of well known women/girl makeup artists on KZbin and TikTok that are huge! I just care that they spread a good message about also loving yourself. And I think James Charles’s downfall had nothing to do with this episode. There were rumors for awhile about his inappropriate behavior around underage straight boys. It was just solidified when there was someone willing to say it. I also wasn’t fond of how this episode portrayed cancellation as anything that SEVERELY affects influencers lives. James Charles is still rich, and just how often has Shane Dawson been “cancelled” but still has a huge following and still lives in a mansion? The only people I’ve seen get seriously affected are random Karens. As far as who’s the true villain of the episode, social media and the monopolies that run it are the TRUE villains! They’ve done so much to remove child friendly spaces from the internet, so the only ones that are left are for small children so teens and tweens can only watch stuff for adults! These platforms CLEARLY don’t care if what they are doing is healthy for ANYONE!!! And worst, social media can make ANYONE go viral at anytime! It leads to kids making the money for the family like Charlie DeMilio, so she can’t have a childhood anymore, and it leads to some horrible and predatory people gaining immense power and influence! Again, look at Shane Dawson or James Charles! Plus the creators of these platforms make guidelines that people aren’t supposed to break, but that means nothing if they NEVER ENFORCE THEM!!! There has been horribly racist stuff put on KZbin that they don’t do anything about! This is what happens when the rules are enforced by a for profit corporation! If someone makes them enough money, they can bra the rules whenever they want! Plus, it’s been shown in scientific studies that platforms like KZbin tend to push people into alt-right pipelines! And people have DIED because of “crafts” or “hacks” on these platforms, but they get away with it because of an old law that was made for newspapers! And because these platforms are internationally available, most people can’t sue the people who are actually responsible! I think there needs to be something done to ALL these platforms, and I don’t think the answer is just banning the ones that were made by people from foreign countries like the US government is trying to do! They should be held responsible for what they allow to be posted!!!

[@missebone]

I believe you don't have to be gay to know how to do makeup there are some women who are not the greatest at it and there are some men who are a little bit better. Me personally I don't care who does my makeup just as long as it looks good 💄👩🏾‍🎤

[@yusukeGum]

I feel like this is the real reason why masculinity is in crisis I think people do not know that way back in history in the in the 18th century for the 19th century back in Noble men they used to wear makeup in that Time period of time back in the Victorian time royal men that live in the palace they wore makeup so it could make them more attractive and more masculine and they also wear heels so a good question what is masculine putting on makeup it made them more masculine for them that was the definition of masculinity because they were also nobleman that were loyal they were the only one that have access to makeup except for the peasants they did not have access to it but those that were royalty they had access to makeup now today in 2024 there's still this confusion what is masculine and what is not masculine ?! 14:49

[@jimmydeneus5322]

Men do whatever they went to themselves

[@mickdonald7885]

No

[@juliemesser2053]

​@@mickdonald7885You know it's true.

[@juliemesser2053]

​@@mickdonald7885Like it,or not.

[@tell-me-a-story-]

It’s just James Charles you guys

[@heycanitellyousomething]

One thing I will also add, is with James Charles he's been basically a proven creep, and possible ped. Let's not even bring up Jeffrey Star and his lengthy list of bullshit he got canceled for. Many of them have basically gone down the drain, it's mainly women I'm seeing doing makeup stuff, usually though I'm seeing podcast style videos talking about specific TikTok makeup artists or brands that have screwed up such as that one youth foundation where they released their "darkest" foundation and it is literally just charcoal color they only used black base they didn't add any undertones or anything to make it a REAL skin color, when looking at the ingredients you can see for yourself they only used 1 color ingredient for the literal black as night "skin-tone". The makeup industry and community as a whole is kinda a mess, and this is coming from someone on the outside looking in, can't imagine what it feels like being IN the community.

[@kakeemakeup5845]

It was a whole mess, had to leave myself because the drama got old and tiring after a while(2016-2021 back to back drama.) Smaller beauty creators are the gems of the community, some of the small ones can be messy too but that’s many communities at this point. That whole foundation fiasco is a whole mess, what were they thinking?!