"The PS5 Pro Is A 4080!" According To This DELUSIONAL PlayStation Fanboy

[@MUSTANG_P51]

There was a $700 console in the 90s; the 3DO I believe it was called. And any fanboy defending the price and making the claim it’s better than even the best PCs is in complete denial of how the company they simp for doesn’t give two Trevors about them. Trying to give them a reality check is next to impossible.

[@dustojnikhummer]

700$ in 93 was 1500 dollars today. The PS5 isn't 1500 dollars. The PS6 will be but we will burn that bridge when we get to it.

[@KyronSmith]

I believe there is another much more expensive console in the 90s as well called the Philips CD-i, it's was about $1000 at the time of 1992. When to adjust that for inflation, that's about $2250.

[@SheepAmongG.O.A.T]

I bought one of those for $700. Never defended it but I think I was gaming better than if I was on PC. PC gaming was all its own sht back then. No console games on it.

[@linkvagar2336]

The reason the 3do was so expensive was because it was licenced to 3rd party companies to manufacture. Those third party manufacturers couldn't make up production costs with software sales, so they had to charge so much for the hardware. It was a bad business model that ultimately killed the console. Sony, on the other hand, have no excuse for charging this much.

[@buckroger6456]

Don't forget the Neo Geo. I believe it was $800 or was it $1k.

[@overdrivedrinker8284]

Wait until when the PS6 releases at like $1000 and they'll start saying "You cant build a good PC at $1000 dollars" lmao

[@proggz39]

⁠@@WoozyPolarBearpc components have a 3-5 year lifespan, so if you want to buy used for an obsolete system you could. You could also buy a used console for cheap. Saying pc components have gotten cheaper in 4 years is just a straight lie. Go look at the market for 2 seconds to see that

[@roboconker]

@@proggz39 You can get a RTX 3080 for $350 used that has the same performance of a RTX 4070 that cost $530. My first PC lasted 7 years with no problem, it really depends on the person if you want to upgrade every few years.

[@lightingkraken1866]

@@proggz39lol are you serious? Have you ever built a pc?

[@64bitmodels66]

​@@roboconkerthe 3080 has less vram and features and when you consider how vram hungry modern games are the card is already outdated

[@Jaykurosakii]

@@proggz39 you must of read that on google. Pc parts can last a lot longer than 3-5 years.

[@DR_Iceman1983]

Pony’s STOP IT, get some help.

[@ShakilMia-gz6mp]

You xbots are dumb Go listen to digital founder

[@AltoRosei]

Griffin gaming be like: "Bro, 700$ is not a lot of money"

[@AvaaSlays_Swiftie]

@@WoozyPolarBearyeah he said his video will basically pay for it and it’ll be a tax write off.

[@evilrollo]

​@@WoozyPolarBear calling it now, in 5-10 years Griffin will be homeless and selling sexual favors to old, fat gay men for enough money to get 7/11 hot dogs

[@UnRu1eD]

Griffin literally fantasies about Pokimane. The same little girl that steals money and ripped off people with her bullshit and “cookies”

[@raikenninja4843]

@@WoozyPolarBear Bro I never seen someone fall off as hard as Griffin. The brokies comment and not making any content really fuck him up hard.

[@GoofyPoptart]

Never cared for that dude.

[@Dejavuproned8]

They still think they are going to get 4k60. As if console manufacturers haven't been lying about that for almost a decade now 😂

[@HikariVictor]

If even Nvidias like the 4070 Ti Super, 4080 Super and even the 4090 Super can't get those framerates stables at SOME GAMES, how in rhe world do you want me to believe that a console can? How? HOW?!

[@chrissyboy7047]

​@@HikariVictor there is no 4090 super but the 'normal' 4090 sure can. Still needs to use upscaling in some games though. Lol

[@HikariVictor]

@@chrissyboy7047 lol I was being sarcastic... the next horsepower will be the 5090 but yeah, that's my point, software it's going a little bit out of control

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@HikariVictor sorry dude. Its hard to tell in a comment. Lol. Yeah i get ya. Things are getting crazy. Some settings in games are clearly intended for the next gen

[@Shadowclaw25]

they didnt lie, u will get 4k and 60 fps. Its just that they mean 4k with 10fps in game or 60 fps in the STart-screen ^^

[@TheLastCin]

damn when you said 19 inches of Venom" i legit looked at my Venom statue staring at me 😂

[@Calm_Chaos]

When I heard "the PS5 Pro is cheap" after I finished laughing, I thought, "She must have a really good job and still living with her parents" to say something as crazy like that. For what I could see, this slight upgrade and the Adidas signs on the case, this PS5 Digital ain't worth it.

[@Calm_Chaos]

@Andrew_Holt Damn been caught out. Oh well, his plan didn't work, lol

[@lemoncakeslemonade5430]

Everything about this video is giving highschooler who knows tech words but doesn’t really understand what any of it means, who probably isn’t allowed to have a gaming PC.

[@ralzay2009]

Why don’t people ever say that the portal was bought by scalpers 😭

[@lolcow6668]

Because they don’t wanna accept the dark truth that Sony products don’t sell that well

[@SIPEROTH]

It wasn't. Scalpers wouldn't buy things they can't sell. The portal had negative feedback before launch so scalpers wouldn't buy crazy big numbers out of fear of no one wanting it. They probably bought more after people started buying them but that shows people were buying them.

[@ralzay2009]

@@SIPEROTH scalpers buy anything regardless of reviews mate. Stop this

[@SIPEROTH]

@@ralzay2009 Scalpers are doing it for profit they won't go buying things they can't resell and lose money. Stop saying silly things.

[@nicholasdelaney1407]

It's bullshit that the PS5 Pro didn't even come with a disc and you have to pay over $100 for it, but it's disgusting that Jaydub and TheRedDragon tried to flex that it's disc drive was selling out...

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

And add to that disc drives were sold out recently and are out of stocks ... so eitheir scalpers doing the thing again (which i dont think so) or Sony limited supply so people go full digital.

[@inkdreaper874]

Scalpers are buying out the drive. They know Ponies will pay $300+ for it 😂

[@firexallst4rz277]

I mean people still have there physical discs so for them to not include it is so dumb but whatever.

[@firexallst4rz277]

Lol man sad but true 😂

[@exiledhebrew1994]

You guys need to realize that the dollar just isn’t worth as much as it was

[@SupremacyGamesYT]

People need to realise 4K60 RT on a console is a ruze. Its upscaled 4K, its probably 60 with bad frametimes and its a dumbedd down RT and finally that's all at medium settings.

[@roflBeck]

And vsync, don't forget the vsync lol.

[@jcgamer1650]

@@roflBeckYep, no 120 HZ for them at 60FPS lol. Oh my bad, I meant Upscaled 4k 60 FPS. Since its not true 4K.

[@roflBeck]

@@jcgamer1650 Well yeah it doesn't have 120 either. But you can add vsync to any refresh rate you want, I mentioned vsync because it adds input lag. Most console games don't let you turn that off.

[@gamble777888]

I don´t understand exactly why but if you play on both Console and PC (in my case Series X and PC) the games just look better on PC. Anything you run on high settings 60fps will beat pretty much any game on the console. And it doesn´t matter if it is 1080p either. 1080p monitor high settings 60FPS >> 4k 60 fps on console. Everything just look A LOT crisper.

[@roflBeck]

@@gamble777888 Yeah, that's true isn't it? Could be due to a few things. 1. TV is likely running things through a smoothing filter. 2. Console games don't usually use high settings. They're usually around medium. 3. Today's consoles run games at a lower internal resolution, then scale to the output resolution. Whereas most PC games will just run at the resolution you tell it. Newer games have a lot of these scaling options too but you don't have to use them.

[@mr.pointman1930]

Sony is going downfall all these year. No needed to take a rocket science to know all this.

[@kroganshepard6594]

I lowkey have to gaslight myself into seeing the resolution bump from the PS5 Pro lol. That shit should be $600 MAX.

[@thetrashcanman7537]

Lmfaoooo you gotta hype the comparison in your mind to even justify going NEAR that price 😂

[@jesuspernia8031]

@@thetrashcanman7537 You mean like those shills at IGN glazing Sony’s mediocrity in that one video?

[@chrism8860]

You can see the difference? I thought most looked better on the regular model!

[@chrism8860]

@@WoozyPolarBear That's really bad. Some of pictures, the Shadow quality was sharper on the regular PS5. Reports saying that GTA 6 will probably only get 30FPS on the Pro, same Zen 2 CPU

[@luukherfst1209]

​@@chrism886030 fps on pro aswell? Damn😅

[@thunderflare59]

So Sony put a $1,000 GPU in the PS5 Pro and charged $700 for it? There's being the clown, there's being the entire circus, then there's this.

[@SIPEROTH]

I think they probably increased the RDNA2 CU's without using RDNA 3. That will make it in rasterization being an RX6800. If they used RDNA3 then it will an RX7800. BUT they used RDNA4 ray tracing cores that gives much better ray tracing than what AMD could do until now. So basically is a hybrid. Also they have a custom chip that does PSSR upscaling that is much better than FSR and will also save the GPU from the load of doing upscaling etc. So all in all the performance of the GPU i see it been between a 4070 and a 4070Ti.

[@Truth.Alphaz]

@@SIPEROTHI think it will be around a 4060ti 16GB / 7700xt. I had a OC’d 4070 last year and that thing was a beast and destroys playstation in raw performance.

[@Seethus]

They keep showing spiderman footage a glorified QTE Cutscene generator 😂😂 and they thought it was going to win game of the year!

[@jdbb3gotskills]

It’s crazy to think my $1,500 I built 2 years ago will be cheaper than a PS5, PS+, and a PS6 in the long run. Within my PC lifespan that is. This whole debacle has finally opened my eyes and now I’ll just stick with PC. Never spending anymore money on my PS5. I can wait for games to come to PC. The big one GTA6… I can wait a bit longer for that.

[@yaboirichard591]

We’re literally going to get the better version of gta6 so I can wait an extra year for it

[@luukherfst1209]

​@@yaboirichard591Difference will probably be big between the console and pc version of gta 6 so it'll be worth the wait

[@falconer-ts8fq]

There was a post elsewhere and based on it, I did the math based on my country’s retail prices. Let’s say you don’t want to build a pc, which at the total price of a ps5 pro blows that junk out of the water, and you want to stick to the consoles…you buy a switch oled, a 256 gb sd card, a pro controller, 10 brand new switch games and you still have 200 euros left…it’s nuts

[@megaman37456]

"If you're a serious gamer why settle for something that's a generation behind?" I dunno, let's ask some Sony fanboys, they have experience in that department.

[@CAPEDCRUSADER3900]

Just gonna leave this build here. AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor = $114.81 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler = $29.99 Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard = $74.98 G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory = $29.99 Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive = $56.99 XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card = $469.99 OR MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card = $519.99 KOLINK KLA-003 ATX Full Tower Case = $38.09 Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply = $61.99 PC Part Picker PC Total with stock AMD Cooler = $846.84 PC Part Picker PC Total = $876.83 PC Part Picker PC with 4070 & stock AMD Cooler Total = $896.84 PC Part Picker PC with 4070 Total = $926.83 PS5 Pro with Vertical Stand & Disc Drive total = $853.46 You can absolutely build a PC similar in performance to a Complete PS5 Pro for a similar price, you won't be paying $699.99 Flat for a PS5 Pro there will AT LEAST be a $40-$50 Tax for $100 more you can build a PC that slightly more powerful than a PS5 Pro. This isn't even in used parts where you can possibly save an extra $100- $200 dollars.

[@BlueFire015]

ohh ehmm one tiny thing u forgot in about a year or 2 that pc will actually be cheaper considering PS+ #pcmasterrace4life :P

[@blue_ish4499]

You could even go cheaper with a R5 3600 (wich is still superior to the ps5 pro cpu).

[@BlueFire015]

@@blue_ish4499 personally i find it amusing that some ppl are saying its a 4070 equivalent in yhe ps5 pro when the gpu in the normal ps5 is a laptop 6800xt or something like that.. Cannot compare a last gen AMD card with current gen NVIDIA, altougj the rdna2 was very impressive and brought them alot closer to nvidia in terms of power but hey details...

[@corey2232]

If you're an existing PS5 owner planning to upgrade to a PS5 Pro, then $700 isn't the starting point for PC comparisons. Let's say you've owned a PS5 for 2 years & now want to buy a Pro. Here's your cost: - PS5: $500 - 2 years of PS+: $160 - PS5 Pro: $700 - Disk Drive & Stand: $110 (Optional) *TOTAL: $1,470* If you plan to trade in your PS5 towards the Pro, we can deduct $200. If you don't want to be able go just your physical games anymore, we can deduct another $80. So then you're left with having spent $1,190 pre-tax for just Playstation consoles, now without the UHD playback & ability to play physical games. Alright, now show me what $1,200 gets you with a PC & tell me that's not better than what you've wasted to get a Pro.

[@Allustar]

My build was around $1000. I have an AMD 7600 Graphics card and an AMD 5 5600x with 32 gigabytes of RAM and 2 terabytes of storage on an SSD. I even bought a custom cooler and, while my machine doesn’t have a disc drive, it can run most modern games at max settings at a stable 60 fps.

[@gamble777888]

Anyone who knows anything about PCs today can tell you the value for your dollar proposition is CLEARLY on the PC side right now.

[@gamble777888]

And 4k is perhaps the biggest grift ever in terms of graphics, outdone only by Ray Tracing. It's so obviously preferable to shoot for higher performance than native 4k textures and the INSANE resource hog that is ray tracing, an effect which basically does not improve the gaming experience in any way and certain times looks outright ridiculous and objectively worse than other lighting techniques.

[@bubsy3861]

if you have a super power of don't giving a f about online games it's not THAT bad. 🤣

[@donthebond4822]

Johnny being called that one biker guy in the intro hurt me emotionally

[@derschnuff8819]

Anybody who goes shopping retail PC-parts online with a "lowest price filter" can build a 750$ PC equal to PS5 PRO (and having even more RAM overall)....add 250 $ and you are massiveley outperforming it already (oh and you can add a Discdrive). That lady at beginning of the video has absolutley no idea what she is talking about. She did not even try to check the retail prices for PC stuff or she was lazy and selected some custom designs with higher pricetags.

[@AvaaSlays_Swiftie]

Ps5 pro is 6 year old technology.

[@drkRoss89]

PS4 Pro: $400 for 2x performance compared to the Base PS4. PS5 Pro: $700 for 1.45 (45%) more performance than the base PS5. Make it make sense.

[@silver4214]

Thats 62% larger price for 45% better speed, thats -17% price / performance upgrade, budget minded pc gamers wont upgrade or build a new pc for min of min 25% positive price / performance upgrade

[@drkRoss89]

@@silver4214 Exactly. I'm at the stage where I'm gonna run my 6700XT into the dirt or until an affordable £350-£500 GPU launches with an 80%-100% performance uptick. In the meantime, I'm content with my PC and base PS5 and am just gonna dump some cash into a savings account and add to it each month.

[@Italian_Isaac_Clarke]

I have my 5600x and my 2070 in my PC. Playing with low-mid settings, SSAO and texture filtering at high, and I can maintain more than 55 FPS at 1440p if I change the internal res between Performance and Balanced, meaning that my computer made YEARS ago can still compare to Xbox Serie X and PS5 in performance, and still do more.

[@Straywork]

I feel you on the headache issue. Been there, it sucks. Glad you're feeling better, bro.

[@Nerd_Gamer_Buddy]

Feels really great to be in the PC honestly just watching all this go down. We get entertaining content from the salt miners, the drug we all need and it's all good.

[@gravdigr27]

My entire family are pc gamers. I built them all gaming PCS and never looked back. Wife and stepson were both console gamers before we met. I turned them to the light and they both said they will never go back to console gaming.

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

Going to PC next gen too. Right now i need t o update my RTX 2060 as its quite old but have some expenses.

[@KeyJayHD]

​@@CarTastic-fv6eono rush bro. You GPU has legs. I've seen vids of people playing Space Marine with a GTX 1080. You'll be fine. You know the game, update in stages. You probably want to attack that CPU bottleneck first if not already.

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

@@KeyJayHD I have Ryzen 9 3900x 12 core and 64 gb of ram. GPU is only bottleneck i have.

[@NetherlordKyloraptor]

Klutzy be playing Space Marine 2! FOR THE EMPEROR!!! Also whoever programmed that AI voice should get fired

[@starscotten]

$700 PS5 pro better than a $2000 PC?! Don't make me laugh! A $2000 PC can run circles around the PS5 Pro, just because that PC has a crapton more games to play, let alone more games with Ray-tracing. Desperation is a motherf*cker! These Ponies are coping, seething, and desperate for a W; and yet, they're taking L after L. The PS5 was a waste of money for ANY gamer with a good head on his shoulders, and that WON'T change until the PS5 has five games that EVERY gamer could play.

[@exiledhebrew1994]

But why spend 2000 dollars just to play modern games; when a PS5 can do that

[@sdngy]

we hear the story each gen on how console looks better blablabla... and guess what each time its get beat up by pc hardware....the high end is always PC master race...It always have been that way. after the myth about how "SSD that improved FPS", fanboy bullcrap is always the same...but they can't change the reality. PC gaming is hated by console players because you're more well off and you can afford a more expensive device to play your games, and in the world of PC enthusiast $2000 is a mid range rig

[@chrism8860]

​@@exiledhebrew1994Because a PC can do everything a PlayStation can do, and then do everything a PC can do. It's apples to oranges. I'm not editing photos and pictures on my PlayStation. I'm not mixing music on my PlayStation. I'm not even updating my resume on a PlayStation. I'm not checking my email on my PlayStation. I could go on forever

[@KeyJayHD]

​@@exiledhebrew1994because I get to keep those games past the PS5, no questions asked, and I'm not limited to what the PS5 offers.

[@Aryan-y2o3x]

@@exiledhebrew1994 Again bro do not be a pony . You can get a pc worth 1000 dollars -1200 dollars with equivalent or better than a ps5 pro. You will have bigger game library,unlocked fps and many more features as well

[@dankmemes8479]

£700 for playing ps4 games still at 30 fps

[@luukherfst1209]

Fr😂

[@pmcomputing2459]

I own an RTX 4080, I humbly ask someone that plays on a console and thinks that its a better experience than whats on PC to come play Cyberpunk 2077 with full path traced reflections and lighting, and a whole bunch of mods that increase texture resolutions to 4k and more on a PC running an RTX 4080. I play on a 4k samsung tv with a native 120hz refresh and I play with all of those features enabled, depth of field rendering, enhanced HDR lighting, etc at 85+fps at 1440P with DLSS 3.5 and frame generation. I promise you would be blown away by what you see.

[@wwjnz9263]

The SNK Neo-Geo might be the console you're referring to. Although it was more of a scaled down Arcade motherboard than what could be considered a "console" back then. And I just looked up its release price. In 1997, it cost $649.99... In 1997. 😮

[@causerDAguv]

I pulled together pc parts equivalent to the PS5 and I got roughly $1100 cad which will be what the PS5 pro will be. Also my build included a 5800x cpu.

[@interrobangings]

Don't even need to spring for a 5800x, you can use a cheaper Zen 2 CPU since that's what the PS5s use

[@lemoncakeslemonade5430]

It’s giving highschooler who’s watched a lot of tech videos without understanding anything that’s being said.

[@mauricebranch7459]

I'm slowly considering PC gaming once next year hits and my car gets paid off. I already have a steam deck so why not go all in on PC.

[@SilentKnight234]

You won't regret it. You'll save money from not paying for PS+/Xbox Live. And not to mention the sales on different market places on PC.

[@thetrashcanman7537]

Wait till you see the VAST difference it’s not even a joke 😂 people have been trying to mislead others through jealousy in comments for years

[@XmortoxX1990]

Lmao, that literally was "PS5 bro is better than a 4090, source: Trust me bro". This is the old tale to never end, whenever a new console arrives, it'll be "PC killer", to then realize is not even half as powerful and they claimed. Consoles are starting to yield diminishing returns. New consoles are more and more expensive, even needing a refresh in the middle of their lifetime, all to be a slight upgrade over the other. At this time we're all better waiting to save to buy/build/upgrade a gaming PC, like me. I hope I get some nice deals this Black Friday

[@Xred97523]

8:32 Thanks for the Kit Kat, but now I need to go get my ear drums checked.

[@jayreaper7486]

“Alright don’t know what that mobile thing was about but moving on” killed me 😭

[@Nanobits]

Last i checked a 4090 was not playing games at 30fps as standard. We pc gamers out here cranking out up to 200+ fps on many games with an average of 90-120 fps on the 4090.

[@F15HA82]

Yeah but it wasn’t £700 was it

[@chrism8860]

​@@F15HA82Ponies are trying to say that the PS5 Pro can match is performance

[@kennethwilliams9668]

​@@F15HA82 Got to pay to play, not fake it till you make it 😅

[@braydensearle]

Consoles and PC’s are played differently so comparisons are always going to be flawed. Consider that the PS5 pro wouldn’t even benefit the bulk of players because the TV sizes are not high enough to make noticeable difference in image clarity and that console payers would be more willing to use frame gen as responsiveness for controllers is not as impactful.

[@braydensearle]

@@ELpeaceonearth I sure don't, and after what my kids did to my ps4 slim i don't want one.

[@AmigoAmigo-w5p]

Well remember when PS5 came out they said its on par with 2080 super... haha. This is similar

[@tinytimtim2747]

Didn't sony put 8k logo on the old ps5 and took them off later

[@MultiStevo123]

Yep. Think about it though lol. If the Pro is supposed to be more powerful that’s one more point they can add to the marketing. Just quietly remove the 8K label and add it to the Pro marketing and hope people forget so they see “ wow the pro can do 8K and the ps5 can’t”

[@Dbeastlygamer95]

Ah yes. I want to always make sure im at the “top of the gaming food chain” 🤣💀

[@LightShadowOnyx]

more and more info coming out for the ps5 pro just shows it is a more expensive ps5 we are learning that we are still going to get 30fps games so that means you will still have to choose either fidelity mode or performance mode for some games on pro. They showed hogwarts legacy at 4k with ray tracing on and you know what fps it was running at 30fps so once again lies, lies, and more lies from sony.

[@MultiStevo123]

16:30 Just wanna add Sony quietly removed the 8K label a short while ago on the PS5 packaging. The fact they’re trying to now use it again for marketing the pro is ridiculous

[@SheepAmongG.O.A.T]

I get tired of all the mental inflation coming from the PS5 peeps. Think my 4070, 2 T M.2, 32 gig RAM, CPU I think was around $300, still only ran me ~$1600 and its going to crap on the PS5 Pro for years to come. It's not $2000.

[@OhNoAlexxStreams]

8:35 idk why I didn’t comment about this. But holy f*ck thats funny! 😆😆😆 *shoves Kit Kat into mic

[@liamcollinson5695]

The uk price converted to usd is about 911usd without the stand/disk drive but i believe Canada and new Zealand drew the short straw on price with it costing more than 1100 usd+

[@Nurix09]

I am a playstation fanboy (or is "was" correct now?) and PS5 Pro is not 4070 let alone 4080 LMAO 😂. It is more like Radeon RX 7700 XT not even 7800. Also it's funny that everyone says 4k 60 fps with ray-tracing when both Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and Rachet & Clank run at 1440p 60 fps (with Ray-tracing) on the PS5 Pro.

[@Xyler94]

I love how people see specs like 4K 60FPS and Ray Tracing, and honest to goodness think the PS5 Pro will do all that simultaneously. I think my favourite though, was when Sony was touting 8K on their box, because the HDMI 2.1 spec can handle up to 8K 120FPS streams...

[@wolfrenflame1832]

Yeah people, trust the vision! [CONCORD]😂😂😂

[@wwjnz9263]

OK... My last comment aside. Klutzy, where did you find this A.I. voiced Bantha poodoo? Holy crap! 😂😂😂

[@ajflink]

There is one advantage that consoles have over PCs, especially if said PC uses Windows 11. There is no pointless resource hogging. Even when you disable and uninstall all the bloatware and resource eating settings that annoy can do without intimate knowledge of PC workings, there are still things that will randomly try to steal resources while playing a game and cause slow-downs (mainly on Windows): The damn hyper paranoid Anti-Malware Executable, Security System doing a random scan of the computer (even sometimes when you set settings that should stop it from doing so), programs that run in the background after you close them, and diagnostic data thing that you need to do some hackery to either make nonfunctional or disable, Windows trying to run an unprompted update unless you disable its ability to do so and need to mainly run and check for updates. You'll still be hovering around 25% to 35% CPU usage when you are doing nothing or 40 to 45% if your computer decides to be cruel that day. Does this mean that the PS5/PS5 Pro is better than a $2000 PC? No! PC always have the advantage of technically having no limit in customization with the only real limit being your wallet size and your knowledge of PC hardware and software.

[@apimb1396]

The Pro is now on Par with the X....

[@SoXFarXGonee]

Only took 4 years and 2 mid gen console refresh

[@inkdreaper874]

Exactly. $700 to match the 4 year old X, which includes a drive and stand, for $200+ less 😂

[@SoXFarXGonee]

@@inkdreaper874 can't make this shit up lmao

[@inkdreaper874]

​@@SoXFarXGonee😂🤣 only Ponies, man.

[@jesuspernia8031]

Wait is it really just the same specs as the Series X?

[@Linkman247]

Love the Super Mario Land theme. And I wont lie. I bought the collector's edition of Spider-man 2 and the Spider-man 2 Ps5 bundle. That bundle was $600. But you got the disc drive, a vertical stand, and a copy of a $70 game. But PS5 Pro makes no sense if you already bought a PS5. The gains are not enough. And they say 4k at 60fps. You wont be getting 4k at 60fps when the CPU is the same. So games that are CPU bound on thr original they will be capped at 30fps on pro as well. You need a hell of a PC rig to even hit 4k 60fps. They should be prioritizing 1080p at 60fps. The thing is the devs will be able to choose to do 60fps or not. If you have a base ps5? You will still get a decent experience. But at the price of the pro? You may as well get a PC. And if this person thinks they will get $300 for their PS5? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 You will be lucky to get $150 from gamestop.

[@silveraustinluna]

I remember there being a console with a launch price of $1000. I don't remember what it was though.

[@commonsense-og1gz]

there are a lot of videos by moors law is dead which talk about rdna4. in short summary, leaks seem to hint that the rx-8800xt is supposed to be on the level of the 4080 (raster) and 4070ti (raytracing) for around $600.

[@Dungeon00X]

I'm doing great because Marvel VS Capcom Fighting Collection released. The CD-i was $1000 back in the 90's.

[@vincentlaw82]

42 yo here. Besides the mentioned Panasonic 3DO there also was the SNK Neo-Geo for around $700 in the 90s but this was literally arcade hardware for the living room, so for the time it was state of the art. Also there was the Amiga CD32 here in Europe it retailed the equivalent of $500 - 600 was an absolute flop and ruined Commodore for good. But every reasonable console was between $199 (SNES/SEGA) - $299 (PS1) then.

[@legiran9564]

Pioneer's Laseractive console from 1993 cost a whopping $1000. The RDI Halcyon from 1985 was $2,500 (equivalent to $7,100 in 2024) and sported a Zilog Z80 CPU that powered the Gameboy

[@tyleroutland435]

I 100 percent agree with everything that is said in the video he is 100 percent right

[@joantonio6331]

The neo geo was freaking expensive

[@buckroger6456]

No kidding. Even the games were a easy $150-300

[@D88niel]

That sounds about right.

[@valentinchappa6702]

That headache behind the eye sounds kinda sus. I think it'll be a good idea to get that checked if it happens more frequently, when you can.

[@ThrashMetallix]

The console in the 90s you're thinking of I believe was the Phillips CD-i. That thing was priced around $800 if I recall correctly. And yeah, it failed wonderfully.

[@mikeyunovapix7181]

Pretty sure it was the 3DO

[@UnRu1eD]

The Fact Dee Batch compared the GPU to a fucking 4070 or 7900 XT in terms of power. Like what the fuck…. The PS5 Pro is compared to 3060 or maybe a 3070. But not a 4000 series and that CPU is going to Bottle neck the fuck out of it.

[@Yooman1337]

a 4070 is worse in performance then a 3080 so the 4000 series aint that great just saying the only really good card from the 4000 series is the 4090 why people say its almost as a 4070 performance wise in a ps5 pro is because of the upgraded ray tracing and the ai upscaler which should work just as nvidia ai upscaler dlss

[@EvernhamNo9]

the EU price includes VAT. Fuck this console though

[@EssenceEater]

The PS5 Pro reminds me a lot of the Sega Genesis, the Genesis was $189.00 in 1989 which is roughly $460 now which seems reasonable considering the SNES was about the same price. However, the real bad things where that it add-ons; the 32x which was 159.99 which is $356, and the Sega CD which was $299 which now is $670. These add-on's made the whole console look completely insane. Sony seems to be running the gambit of "gamers will buy this horrible box and add-ons".

[@legiran9564]

3DO from 1993 and the Neo Geo console from 1991 were both $700. CDI's from 1991 cost up to $700 with graphics worse than a SNES. Pioneer's Laseractive console from 1993 cost a whopping $1000. The RDI Halcyon from 1985 was $2,500 (equivalent to $7,100 in 2024) and sported a Zilog Z80 CPU that powered the Gameboy

[@CallumDowney]

The system costs more than my gaming PC, mind you I got it second hand about a year ago and plan to upgrade it more eventually but still prefer paying $700 (CAD) for the base and having the option to upgrade whenever I want to over possibly having to buy an upgraded console every few years. Mind you I used to be mainly console but ever since being able to get a decent gaming PC everything just feels better to me (alot more options of things to do on it) not hating on consoles but long gone the days of buying a console at $300-$400 that last's 10+ years and was still playable I feel which is unfortunate, never thought I'd see the day that a gaming console reaching 1K especially not one that's not a new gen.

[@RealDevastatia]

The voice in the OP video sounds like "Ashley." She does come across as a bit of a PlayStation shill. Funny how she says the Pro isn't expensive while also admitting she's broke and can't afford one.

[@mauricebranch7459]

Actually its an extra $300 because the all digital PS5 at launch was $399 and the one with the disc drive was $499. I refuse to pay $699 for an all digital pro or an $800 when you add the disc drive. I didn't want to nit pick on that

[@Ottendo]

Side note: Love the Nintendo music you chose ;) I can hear it. Full thing, I agree with everything you say!

[@OurHeroXero]

The other thing about building a comparable PC to the PS5 Pro...is you can use the PC for things outside of playing games.

[@thatbritishgamer]

5800x3d and 3080ti owner here this 1440p 144 fps thing ive done for years ffs

[@iandavis8725]

It won’t be native 4K/60 at all, that’s the whole point of PiSSeR and AI upscaling, didn’t they read that bit?

[@dockgamer973]

They have no idea how anything works.

[@cookiecreep9204]

Meanwhile me saving up for a year to build a pc for I think about 2k$. Given the games I play, no chance I'm going to have to replace anything for years to come and still will be able to play at highest settings... And it's not limited by some Sony nonsense.

[@Shadowclaw25]

whats with the janky spacemarine 2 in the background ? i played 20hours and had zero hickups and this video is full of it Oo

[@Userfound7]

I wanna switch to PC but I'm in that trap of "I lose a lot of games if I switch excluding certain ones" which kind of sucks

[@Shadowclaw25]

yeah totaly not counting all the steam sales with 10-30eur games xD and gamepass. Just buy the pro and then the ps6 and gonna keep paying to play online XD

[@Userfound7]

@@Shadowclaw25 did I ever say I was defending the PS5 pro or did you just assume for some unknown reason to get a reaction

[@bloodysimile4893]

All the Ponies must taking it up the rear for how often they get ramped by Sony.

[@jessedarby1591]

The neo Geo Master system was like 700 bucks

[@AvaaSlays_Swiftie]

Sony promised 4k 60fps on the ps5. So no one had to beg for it. Sony lied per usual. Waited 4 years to drop the actual ps5 we should have gotten in 2020 for 500 bucks. Purposely leaving out the disc drive as well. Any Sony fanboy should be fucking pissed at the principle of it all. Yet they bend over and get excited about it.

[@oli8296]

I mean, all I can see that they've done is boosted the clock, that's it, and they've taken away the disc drive then stuck a £250 extra price tag on it 😂🤣 like when the original ps5 was meant to play everything at 4k 60 fps 🤦🤣

[@axxessdenied]

Sony was promising 8K in 2019...

[@luukherfst1209]

8k💀. Even a 4090 isn't there yet. It'll take like 1,5 console gens as of now before consoles hit that mark😂

[@wolfrenflame1832]

"But hey, Sony's got more coming". Really, where R the F'n games?!😂😂😂

[@Obozo_Gaming]

Harman Smith most likely said the ps5 wouldn't sell well.

[@erecto_patronum]

Basically, you're paying an extra 200$ just for better LOD distance rendering and slightly better graphics. And I never upgraded to a next gen console bc both are hella expensive. The most costly console I ever bought was the Switch OLED at 517$ CAD

[@ironaikau8236]

oh it's the AI channel, Joe from Seattle reacted to a couple of its videos. funny thing is that some games will still play at 30fps in the pro.

[@ironaikau8236]

"your investing in a piece of tech that will keep you at the top of the gaming food chain" what? it's a console, you use it to play games. If you don't stream and/or make game related content, it's just a really expensive toy I invested on my PC cause i work on it, both 2D and really should do more 3D. so saved up some more and got a nice beefy rig a couple years ago.

[@infern209x]

you also didn't mention the fact that with frame generation technology, which the ps5 pro still doesn't have and has image scaling instead, we are gonna be doubling and tripling our framerates on pc and actually can have stable 4k 60 fps or 1080p/1440p 140 fps or higher on the actual resolutions while they will be stuck on fake image scaled resolutions and can't even have 60fps with raytracing. even a rx 7600 is gonna have better fps than those ps5 pro gpus.

[@definitelynotacyborg]

Though frame gen looks absolutely ass as it blurs the image and introduces a ton of input lag. Tbh console players actually not losing anything with not having it.

[@Eagle-ci9dr]

"advanced ray tracing that triples the speed of the current PS5"..... uhhhhh..... huh????

[@raikenninja4843]

The only reason the Portal sold out is probably because Sony made like 5 of them, and they are actually 7 people wanting them. For all intent and purpose, I've heard it sold out or sold above Sony expectations but they never said it have great sale with solid number.

[@beyonddgrave666]

PS 4 PRO 4K 30 FPSSS (checker board rendering 720, 900p native). PS5 4K, 8K 60 FPSSSS (games at 30 fps fidelity or 60 fps, checker board, FSR 2, 2.1, 3.O rendering 720, 900p, etc). PS5 PRO 8K GAMING 4K FIDELITY MODE 60 FPSSSS, NO NEED TO CHOOSE YOU PESANTS (PSSR upscale NEW TECH RENDERING) anyone else is seeing a pattern 😅😅.

[@brianestrada1993]

As a PC player I do not care about graphics or ray tracing I play everything in low to medium settings so I can have better than 60fps

[@gravdigr27]

The price to performance argument goes right out the window when you include the cost of online over the life of the console.

[@IaconDawnshire]

4k/60fps? Those are rookie numbers! I expect 10k/300FPS! C'MON SONY!

[@davidhines7592]

i have a budget pc with a 3050 which i upgraded cpu to a 12400f and which i doubled the ram to 32gb ddr4 3200mt/s speed. and i still get well over 60 fps in game with med or high settings. ps5 pro can't match the fps. it was designed to get 60fps (just) with quality graphics setting on because ps5 can only do 30 fps most of the time. my £640 pc (when i bought it) could do better with the old 11400f. EDIT: the 3050 is the new 6gb model with no external power so limited to 70w and 20% down on a real 3050 8gb.

[@HuddledEragon]

Actually the PS5 Pro will be more than 700 if you think about such as the membership: - Essential for 1 month £6.99/$9.99 if you pay monthly up to 1 year £83.88/$119.88, for 3 month £19.99/$24.99 if you pay every four months up to 1 year £79.96/$99.96, for 1 year £59.99/$79.99. - Extra for 1 month £10.99/$14.99 if you pay monthly up to 1 year £131.88/$179.88, for 3 month £31.99/$39.99 if you pay monthly up to 1 year £127.96/$159.96, for 1 year £99.99/$134.99. - Premium for 1 month £13.99/$17.99 if you pay monthly up to 1 year £167.88/$215.88, for 3 month £39.99/$49.99 if you pay monthly up to 1 year £159.96/$199.96, for 1 year £119.99/$159.99 - PS5 Pro Disc Drive £99.99/$80 - PS5 Pro vertical stand £24.99/$29.99 Basically if you do the calculations I have given you are paying more than 700 but if you factor in the games as well it will raise the price even more.

[@death5talker45]

Marketing Speak..AKA: Marketing B.S.

[@KaitDiaz47]

The CPU is on the Zen 2 Architecture that's already a generations behind the PS5 pro CPU is equivalent to a ryzen 7 3700x, Intel Core i7 10700K the GPU on the other hand is upgraded so it must be the equivalent to a RTX 4070. I just buy a Intel core i7 10700K with a RTX 4070.

[@MrSidkhan1]

Ps5: oh look leaves on tree Ps5 pro: oh look even more leaves on the tree

[@HuddledEragon]

In my opinion console's these days eight and nine gen consoles are not the same as the seven gen or older consoles, basically if you truly compare both them you'll notice the big difference such as: - Seven or older gen you put in the disc or cartridge just play the game but if there's an update you download and once done play, eight and nine gen you have to install the game first before you play it so it's like waiting to your game is done like on the PC. - Seven or older gen were more cheaper than gaming PC to the point you just want to get the console to play game, in a long run it's cheaper just to get a mid-range PC then eight and nine gen consoles. - Seven or older gen were more focus on physical media, now the console's these days are trying to go to digital media and I think the slowly did it with the eight gen while they try to speed it up with a nine gen to the point that, when the ten gen comes out they will try all digital media. - Seven or older gen had some really good exclusives and when I mean really good it was those exclusives withdraw you in to the point that you want to get both consoles, eight and nine gen exclusives are coming to the PC. - Seven or older gen are free to play online without a membership unless your on Xbox, eight and nine gen has memberships that you have to pay for to be able to play online and the membership is grossly overpriced. - Seven or older gen was never about who had the best graphics it was about who had the best games that you could just play, eight and nine gen that they tried to push who has the best graphics to the point I would say this to people if you want the best graphics get a gaming PC. Basically to make a very simple to people I would say there is many ways to play PC gaming without using a desktop PC such as gaming laptops, handheld PCs like the steam deck that is in the same price range or bit cheaper than a console these days.

[@alfredoalejandro87]

Is is what it is. There will always be fanboys shilling for their favourite brand. As for competing with PC, consoles will never even touch the high end, the reason for this being GPU/CPU/PC hardware is not static and is always improving constantly. The big mistake people are making right now is using current existing hardware and comparing that to a PS5 Pro. What about next year? New CPU's, new GPU generation for both AMD/NVIDIA, a lot of the current mid-high end will become lower mid end. This always happens. As for me, I am not a console person. I have a RTX 4090, 14900K (somehow never given me any problems so far *knock on wood*) system, and guess what? When the next gen comes out I will probably upgrade to that. I will probably upgrade to the next higher end CPU/MB combo once the new tech is out and matured next year. AMD or Intel I don't care, whichever is better. I don't care about cost. I spend thousands of pounds buying the higher end because I can afford it. I understand this is a niche market, but if you can afford it then you will have the best. I am not trying to flaunt but let people know out there that if you want the best car, you buy the best brand, if you can afford it. Not looking for best value since the money doesn't matter.

[@not_important]

I watch that video, she's delusional..

[@josephfreisinger1488]

She sounds very delusional 😆