This PlayStation Fanboy Is In DENIAL Over The PS5 Pro Being A SCAM

[@OhNoAlexxStreams]

This funny Cat Man, Josh sounds like one real cool guy 😎 subscribe to him you say?

[@matthewhardwick8208]

I'll ask all of the cats in my local area to subscribe.

[@OhNoAlexxStreams]

@@matthewhardwick8208 based. 🤌🏻

[@JiV-c1g]

Series x SpongeBob edition was 700. Is that a scam too?

[@OhNoAlexxStreams]

@@JiV-c1g yes.

[@OhNoAlexxStreams]

@@JiV-c1g yes.

[@legiran9564]

"Stop asking questions. Just consume product and be exited for next product"

[@cougarhunter9804]

Go ahead dumb ass lol

[@SKOTxFREE]

Oh get over it already. You’re just as much as a consumer as anyone here. If you weren’t you wouldn’t have any games or be talking about this.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@SKOTxFREE. This is not an argument.

[@legiran9564]

@@SKOTxFREE We're all consumers. I happen to be a smart consumer with the ability to say no and you just happen to be a dumb one.

[@teamofone1219]

@@SKOTxFREE All I hear from you is "Harder Sony fuck me in the ass harder."

[@kyuremthefrozen8539]

ps5 pro does not need to exist

[@m.ostrowski2031]

Sony never really changed. In 2006, after their first console sold 100+ million and their second console sold 150+ million, outselling all of their competition, they believed the market became theirs and they could set whatever price they wanted and be as anti-consumer as possible, and that people would still buy it because of the “PlayStation” brand. They were wrong, had to change course around 2009/2010, and spent half a decade rebuilding good will. The PS4 was very successful, and mid-way through its generation, Sony began a mass censorship campaign and didn’t get enough pushback. Now they’re right back to charging outrageous prices, yet, unfortunately, there are too many people defending them this time.

[@thunderflare59]

The only difference is now they don't think they have to release games anymore.

[@m.ostrowski2031]

@@thunderflare59 they didn’t back then either

[@caliginousmoira8565]

the ps3 was the price it was because of the blu ray drive. xbox had an hd dvd add on that was 150 iirc. i had both systems but i did not invest in the hd dvd. my boss even complained about the price [ps3] until he bought one and noticed all of things it could do, he had both systems also.

[@grthjryrd7552]

>there are too many people defending them Literally where

[@m.ostrowski2031]

@@grthjryrd7552 On youtube; there’s plenty of videos of sony fanboys defending this PoS

[@juhajuniori3208]

PS5 Pro is pure bullshit. I paid 500€ for my PS5 with a disc drive and stand. Now in Finland PS5 pro is 800€+130€ for disc drive+30€ for vertical stand, so it's 960€(1068$), not buying that shit.

[@R0bertCc]

Sold mine not looking back. Pc and xbsx was the route i went.

[@grthjryrd7552]

@@R0bertCc sorry to hear that. Missed out on astrobot, psvr2, and the entire ps4 library and its value. Xbox is a barren wasteland, actually zero games

[@darkstarmedia]

$700 (almost$800 if you want to use your discs and want a vertical stand) just to be able to see things that are 50ft away more clearly.

[@neoentertainment4957]

At least I'll finally see what color the Bugatti 12 blocks away from me is

[@badmoose01]

It’s actually more than $800 😂

[@bjarnis]

It's absolutely lunacy, this is hardware from before 2018 when the dev kits where given to developers. These consoles should be like $300-$400 maximum with a outdated blue ray disc and stand obviously.

[@lobsterbob2023]

​@@bjarnis agree

[@_Paul_N]

@@bjarnisAn RTX 3070 would probably bulldoze this piece of junk. PS5 is 1440p at medium settings anyways with exaggerated 4K that’s not even native. It’s upscaled to the high heavens 🤣 . Sincerely, A PC gamer with a base PS5 that collects dust.

[@legiran9564]

Zen 2 is already old tech. AMD is at Zen 5 as of writing which is significantly faster per clock cycle. Also do you think GTA6 will run smooth on the PS5 Pro? GTA6 is CPU heavy because it simulates an entire city. I can see Sony advertise the PS6 for the best GTA6 experience. Just WATCH! Sorry suckers who jumped to buy the Pro.🤣

[@thev3432]

If you think it won’t run well on the Pro I have a bridge to sell you. You’re delusional.

[@LightShadowOnyx]

actually, this does affect me because if the pro is successful this gives sony the greenlight to keep raising prices on their products, this gives microsoft the ok to raise prices, it gives nividia to raise prices, it gives apple the ok to raise prices. This literally effects everyone look at what happen when take two and sony rose price of games to $70 dollars other game publishers started to do it even nintendo

[@joogled1839]

they made ONE $70 game because it took too long to develop. theyre literally back to $60 games 😭

[@CheesyX2]

@@joogled1839 Which does not matter because they STARTED that "trend" and we are seeing that again, they are artificially inflating the price of a piece of hardware that is effectively 6 years old. If people accept this other companies will soon start following this stupidiy because they see that costumers are stupid enough to buy it anyways.

[@wolfrayet0042]

@@joogled1839 Literally every first party game & many others are 69.99, what are you even talking about ?

[@MrTrev80]

@@joogled1839 You are talking out of your butt.

[@joogled1839]

@@wolfrayet0042 ??? party game???

[@Marc-tt7rn]

In the UK, the trade-in price for PS 5 is £170 .

[@WaveForceful]

They devalue worse than a car does

[@datonederpguy1005]

jesus, thats one hell of a drop off

[@NocturnEternal]

“Fake outrage”? No, Mark Cerny. The outrage is legitimate. If your corporation decides to give the PS5 Pro a hefty price tag and not lower the costs of the PS5 disc/digital models and try to insult its customer base…it means your company is incredibly savvy, or incredibly stupid. But in your case (and Sony’s), I’m seeing stupid more than savvy.

[@BrandonRaske]

so basically u r paying 700 for no upgrades from a normal ps5 how does that make sense

[@legiran9564]

DOWNGRADE because the Pro has no disk drive.

[@BrandonRaske]

@@legiran9564 so whats different from a normal ps5 on a ps5 pro no disk drive so basically u r paying over 800 for no disc drive wow what is good about that

[@legiran9564]

@@BrandonRaske If you bought a physical games for the PS5 you can throw all those games in a trash bin because the Pro got no drive. Or you can buy the disk drive separately which will bring your price to 800 or over if you include installation fees. Or just use the 800 and buy a PC.

[@BrandonRaske]

@@legiran9564 this is why ive been saying why not do both physically and digital

[@legiran9564]

@@BrandonRaske They will not do physical because it will be more expensive to produce the drive and disks. Going digital has a higher profit margin for Sony which means the PS6 will have no disk drive either. Welcome to the future.

[@kingken8916]

It's actually a $300 difference because it's comparable to the PS5 digital

[@mauricebranch7459]

Thank you. I been trying to tell people that.

[@markkocsicska2590]

"Futureproofing" Saying after buying a marginally better model 4 years after the original released and 2 years after people could actually purchase it.

[@GameTavern2224]

Given the 200 million hole in the ground Concord made for Sony you'd think they'd realize they can't keep pissing away money

[@Eagle-ci9dr]

If this guy was told eating dirt was good for his digestive system I feel like he's defend it...

[@craciunator99]

Eating good soil would actually be good for your digestive system because of the microbes.

[@Eagle-ci9dr]

@@craciunator99 and there it is.....

[@chrism8860]

@@Eagle-ci9dr Never said you had to like it, just that it may be good for you. Although I doubt it

[@killer12545]

More like if this guy was told eating garbage is good for your digestive system he would defend it

[@JustinB6699]

Just slap on a PS logo

[@thunderflare59]

The Neo Geo, 3DO, and PS3 all learned the hard way that a higher price tag means less sales. Sony's worse at learning from their mistakes than Timmy Turner.

[@HebrewGamer100]

It can't be seen as a luxury option when it doesn't come with the stand or the disk drive.

[@YourFriendlyGymRat]

where does sony say this is a luxury option?

[@6FootVampire]

Waiting for different color Ps5 stands from Sony (Sold separately ofc)

[@Yvans_place]

Sony has already learned one thing: follow the example of the scalpers. I live in Europe and for a full pro (with disk and vertical stand) you pay more than 1000 USD here. For that price I would give my gaming-pc a major upgrade. I like the PS5 for its compact form factor, but if that pricing continues, it will become 100% pc gaming

[@nemesis8664]

If you want the "full experience" (stand, disc unit, all that jazz) the thing will cost you 800 something smackaroos plus PSN fee. Then you will be able to enjoy your 800P Sony's scam in all its, ahem, "glory" also know as being able to play PS4 games but slighty improved. Ponies are really out of their minds.😅

[@dimebag505]

They keep saying the price matches inflation, but they forget most people salaries haven’t matched inflation.

[@IanPrino]

I really expected 600 for the complete console, but I was wrong.

[@NetherlordKyloraptor]

BRITISH ACCENT DETECTED! ACTIVATE TEA DUMPING IN HARBOR PROTOCOLS! lol

[@CaptainB1994]

Hey dont you dare do that to the most Spiffing of drinks 😂😂😂.

[@richallenxbox1976]

Further proof the Americans are all thick cunts who need to shut the hell up.

[@K.J._x8x_MMA]

Don't be wasting it like that.. Drinking it yourself with your American mouth would hurt more😢..

[@rogerdiz3520]

Honestly, as a pc gamer, i couldn't imagine playing a game at 30 fps.

[@mr.electronx9036]

ps5 pro should have all PS titles backwards compatibility and build in disc drive with vertical stand...for $599 max

[@ShahryRKnoT]

It's funny that Sony showed cross gen games for the pro😂

[@Nerd_Gamer_Buddy]

you know hes insecure about this when every other word are filler words and lip smacking

[@axxessdenied]

Considering how big of a scam the ps5 pro controller is I am not surprised by how lackluster the ps5 pro is. If they included the stand, disc drive and an actual upgraded gamepad with hall sensors than it would actually have been a solid deal. This is just a slap in the face to Sony fanboys and the fact that people will defend it is hilarious.

[@ReluctantReader]

the only people that will buy the ps5 pro are the scalpers.

[@johnps1670]

Sony is the scalper.

[@teamofone1219]

Not even scalpers want this lol.

[@waynebarton3622]

​@@teamofone1219no they've bought up all the diskdrives Instead

[@77wolfblade]

@@johnps1670 sony: Look at me! I am the sculptor now!

[@masterb0lt]

I love the "enthusiast" argument cause it makes no sense. Most, if not all, enthusiast gamers get or build a pc cause they can play any game they went at better resolution and fps.

[@SoGrambo]

I won't lie, I honestly thought about upgrading to a PS5 Pro, up until the price was revealed. I saw $799 and my immediate response was, "is this a joke? 800 for a minor graphics upgrade?" From what I understand, the new GPU is a pretty good upgrade, but certainly not $300 good. I might be wrong, though. Edit: the GPU is what's being upgraded, my bad guys.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

No, the CPU remains the same, meaning 30 FPS remains.

[@yeahnahmate7]

Same, I saw the 1200 AUD price and was like jesus wtf why is it double a base Ps5

[@baldo55me]

Same cpu

[@DMC86X]

Hold tf up. Did that shit really say tlou2 was running at 840p 60fps??? If that’s true than wtf is the point of this thing? The way they presented it was you’d get 4k 60 on everything

[@rickplayzyt6277]

Here in europe its 800 euros base, thats without a stand, or a disc drive. Im fairly sure its like a thousand euros for a complete package

[@77wolfblade]

On Twitter the other day I saw people blaming the government for these high prices sure we have taxes but it's silly argument still. It's silly defending Sony because tax.

[@thatguygaming1533]

Every time a new thing comes out that looks awful were always told "it's not meant for you" Then who is it meant for? It's a mass produced mainstream console using casual games like Spider-Man and Ratchet to market it that will be sold and advertised at Walmarts around the world. If it's not meant for the general consumer then who is it for and why are they acting like it's meant to be there for the general consumer?

[@GhostOfMJ-HeHe]

I'm surprised he didn't claim you have to upgrade your pc every year.

[@Artimidorus]

@@ELpeaceonearth I splurged for the 4090 due to VR and stuff (and AMD requires twice the VRAM for near the same performance), but I'm good until the 6xxx series or 7xxx series. This was an upgrade from a 2080.. I see it lasting a while since so many new games are going to DLSS/FSD versus actually coding them properly.

[@desangrador5770]

Steve from Gamers Nexus once said that 1% price increase per 1% performance boost is stagnation, not to mention that 1) 864p60 is about the same performance you got with an rx 6700 or rx 7600 2) the percentages on the PS5 Pro are worst its 75%/1.21% price increase per 45%/1% performance boost (Digital OG PS5 its about 400, Digital its 700)

[@afcansf5996]

I always hate it when they say "this doesn't effect you", cause it does. Rewarding industry shenanigans (something that sadly has become a standard since gaming became mainstream) only will lead to them raising that and others bars; and raising over the entire spectrum. Nor am I buying the "enthusiast argument", not that I consider PS to be a luxury brand like ponies tend to do. But when a real luxury brands release something for their purist customers, they actually make it worth their while. Not to mention those kind of customers wouldn't accept it either if they don' t make good on their promises. And indeed shortly after the release of the PS5, SIE was stated that they weren't making a loss on every unit sold. So the argument that they don't want to sell it at loss anymore, doesn't fit the bill either in this context. And although they sold the PS5 at a profit, it didn't lived up to expectations. Since we know PS want players to leave their PS4' s behind, it doesn't make sense to release something only for their purist customers than.

[@ajflink]

I am a big PlayStation fan; however, I see the PS5 Pro as pointless upgrade, especially if you already use the disc reader as you'll need to fork over almost $80 if you want to still play the games you have on disc or be able to watch Blu-ray and DVD movies without needing to buy a Blu-ray player. My main questions are: (1) Why is it significantly more money than the OG PS5 or the slim model? (2) Why was the CPU not given a significant upgrade? (3) Why is there no PS5 Pro going to be available with a disc drive already included? This does not seem there is difference like the difference between a PS4 and PS4 Pro. I really hope this backfires on Sony.

[@fallenrains7566]

I have a ps5. I’m NOT touching the pro. That is 100 a scam.

[@shotpack8374]

Facts. Your still getting a good experience on the console whether you got the pro or not

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

I'm jealous of one thing. I'm jealous of Sony mining these suckers' wallets with such complete savagery, while the people being scammed are denying being scammed despite it being so excruciatingly obvious.

[@77wolfblade]

For every smart consumer there's at least ten suckers.

[@darksoulzfreak]

"The biggest advantage console has had over PC is price to performance.", I'd add not having to tinker with hardware, operating systems, and worry about viruses to that.

[@nojustice8957]

an enthusiast system I almost have a lot of my chair lmao that's like saying shoe lifts are for people that are height enthusiast

[@FreeBandGanGTerrorists]

The scalpers in Atlanta went crazy on the PS5,looks like scalpers are going to be selling the disc drives this time

[@yaboipele34]

8:13 there’s no lack of competition bro. If that were true, why did Jim Ryan fly all over the world shouting “the sky is falling!” a couple years ago??? Sony just knows their fanboys ignore Xbox completely unless they’re gonna talk shit.

[@definitelynotacyborg]

It's the Xbox Series S's fault the Pro is costing 700 USD (900+ in Europe)

[@yaboipele34]

@@definitelynotacyborg well obviously…

[@Enzo012]

It's double the price but not double the power or performance. If it was an extra $150 or something like that then it would be reasonably priced, you could push the boat out a bit for the upgrade to the base model. You're only wasting about $250 for nothing if you look at it that way.

[@Blewdy]

what sent my sides into orbit was someone tried to make a point 'nobody is gonna buy this at 700 dollars.. well the 3DO would like a word with you' .... not only did that release in a different time, but the console flopped. why would you EVER use that as comparison, if anything, it makes the pro's price look worse lmao though tbh, what else did I expect from people who think they're going to release games exclusively on the ps5 pro. lol

[@FinneyGames_BBG]

I was waiting to upgrade my PS4 Pro when the PS5 Pro released. Thank whatever, that I built a PC back in 2020. I upgraded my PC once I saw the $700 tag. Yes my PC was much more expensive, but it was worth it… This is the first PS Generation I’ll completely skip. I’m not happy about it…. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@neonsheep3358]

As a long time PlayStation fan, I'll be among the first to grab popcorn when Sony gets humbled. "Pro" consoles completely miss the point of console gaming. Its supposed to be simple. Its where physical media SHOULD be king. They miss the mark on both those points.

[@YouTubeCensors]

What gets me is they thought the Pro would equal a 4090... Im an Xbox guy going PC soon and even I know the next Gen consoles won't match the 4090. And it by itself on the $2k models is almost as much as my entire PC build which isn't no slouch.

[@evacody1249]

It's their lack of understanding PC hardware.

[@AzraelDarkness64Gaming]

Keeping the Standard PS5 Never going to waist money on the PS5 Pro and To sell a stand and the dicsdrive separately is unforgivable in my opinion. From UK And I m not supporting the PS5 pro Rather get a steamdeck instead With that kind of money

[@AlphariousOmegon-d5d]

Sony can't take my money fast enough

[@kienhwengtai8113]

In Australia, it will cost $1,360 with a disc drive. Makes US pricing look good. Oh yes Sony bumped up the price of controllers as well ...

[@demoncyborg98]

Remember that NIB blamed xbox for increasing the PS5 Pro price.

[@asahira7834]

I have the PS4(PRO), and I don't think it was a scam when I bought it. At that point in the generation, the base PS4 had been showing problems in certain games. It could be a below 1080p resolution that would look soft to my eyes, or a framerate that had problems hitting it's target. Be it 30 or 60. The difference was the price. I managed to get a christmas deal on my model, and paid 360$ for it. But even it I had to pay the full 400$ for it, it would still be a good deal. After the base console was already 4 years on the market. But with the PS5(PRO), the price of 700$-800$ + is just a greedy joke. It's basically the same greedy move that Nvidia made with the Geforce 4000. Where you don't get any improvement to performance, at the same price as the last generation. So that's why a 4060 Ti, is minimally faster than a 3060 Ti. And costs the same 400$. Where as the 500$ 70 class GPU from last generation,, got replaced by a 600$ + price point(the + is for different vendor price/country you live in). The whole industry is garbage at this point, if they can't offer you any decent upgrade in 4 years. At the same or slightly higher price point. The base PS5 is still not reduced, and prob never will. Also you have to remember. When you are comparing the price of the PRO model to the base one. We have to compare it to the digital edition, that has no disc drive. So in essence a PS5(PRO) is at minimum "300$ +" over a base PS5. Lastly. A normal 4060 is not better than a PS5(PRO) if we are talking GPU speed/raster. At this crazy point in out current console generation. It's just better to take that 700$, add another 300$ to it. And build a decent mid-range rig. You are gonna save so much cash with the better gaming deals on the PC store fronts. Like Steam for example. Plus all the other things a PC gives you, over a machince that's only made for gaming.

[@karamuto1565]

You actually predicted the bad Griffin take...

[@aNsWeRkEy02]

that price..& it ships with the shitty potentiometer analog controller..they could've made the pro controller a hall effect to stop the stick drift problem

[@K.J._x8x_MMA]

I'd rather just waste my money buying 1 Q-tip for £700, except I'll buy the digital version that has no cotton, only the stick.. Might just do it out of pure spite and put it where I'd have put my consoles..

[@SupremacyGamesYT]

I don't mind being screwed, but being GIGAscrewed? nah

[@LowestExpectations]

Why are they so desperate to waste money?

[@tokiwartuthe]

They act like it's something special" with the specs we are getting it should be $700" lol bunch of idiots

[@evacody1249]

What's funny is it still has Zen2.

[@Firestorm2056]

The trade in is going to be $100-$150

[@el-violador]

The recession excuse is completely the opposite. The cost of living is growing faster than wages. Interest rates are increasing to make people LESS able to buy things to make companies drop prices to PREVENT a recession. A console that is this expensive is the problem... Also have a look at the price of a PS5 here in Australia then compare it to the pre-order price on the PS5 Pro. It's a fun little thought experiment

[@Perry2186]

its not even an upgrade its just an overclock and an A I integration

[@darrensanders653]

In Australia the ps5 pro is 1200 from ebgames I can buy a gaming pc for 1500 from the same shop honestly I would rather buy a gaming pc this may be the last PlayStation I may ever buy

[@LLGTMT]

The real scam is the people who have had the highest tier PSN sub since day 1 of PS5. $160/year x 4 Year = $640 to make use of the $500 console. That is $1140, now tack on $700 for the Pro, $30 for the Stand and $80 for the disc drive and that's another $810. That puts us at $1950.00 and the PS6 wont be until at earlier summer or more likely November of 2025 with it being more likely some time in 2026. So add on another $320 for PSN... And we arrive at the Sony "Enthusiast" spending $2270.00 USD without even factoring in games or a monitor cost. For that same amount back at the release of the PS5 in 2020 instead you could have had a PC with a Ryzen 5800X, RTX 3090, 32 GB of DDR4 and a 2 TB M.2 which smokes anything PS is doing with this thing without even sweating... Or in today's market you could comfortably build a 4K beast with a Ryzen 7600X and RTX 4080 Super with 2 TB M.2 and 32 GB of DDR Ram. Keeping in mind that PC would out perform Sony's next 2-3 consoles gens.

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

For 900 I can build a PC that beats the PS5 Pro. Since the PS5 and PS5 Pro are still using a Zen 2 CPU from 2019.

[@K.J._x8x_MMA]

Sounds like he's after a P.T.S.D 5 pro

[@DirtyDan77-]

I’m getting a pro, I want one, am I gonna defend the price? No.

[@zombl337og]

console gamers dont care about graphics and frames they say, yet they hype/defend & buy "pro" consoles. The irony

[@reignjuste]

Personally I’m the target audience but at this price better spend some more and get a 4080 or a 5080 when it comes out. What I saw from comparison videos it does not justify the price. The difference is minimal. My graphics want to look sharp no antialiasing nothing pure resolution sharpness

[@jakedizzle]

The only reason I bought a PS4 Pro was because I didn’t have a PS4 at the time. Think I’ll be waiting on the PS6. I’ll only get it if it has a disc drive though. Otherwise I’ll stick with PC gaming.

[@legiran9564]

They are already prototyping the PS6 as we speak and odds are very strong that the PS6 will not have a Disk Drive. Sony is pushing for full digital games.

[@grthjryrd7552]

Nah id sell the ps4 pro and get a ps5.

[@jakedizzle]

@@grthjryrd7552 I already have a PS5.

[@grthjryrd7552]

@@jakedizzle sell the ps4 then, zero point in having it

[@DefectiveButchr2]

Overwhelming majority of people hate something and this is easily proven? Nah, it's fake.

[@matthewhardwick8208]

If the PS5 was an open platform and was less restricted in terms of game exclusivity? Then $700 would be somewhat justified. If you can completely customise which services and even system OS to install. That would be infinitely better than what Sony is currently trying to market.

[@unknown_truckers]

For 700 to be worth it the 2tb is nice, but it also needs to include a Pro Controller System Stand Disk Reader Already Installed

[@xXhikashiXx]

I usually buy every new model for playstation and I even see this thing as stupid and not worth it

[@JujuInFlames]

“It will sell well” ok so they buy stuff because it’s popular regardless of quality, what an argument Also I’d like to add I feel like they’re starting to treat consoles like cameras. “Oh you can get a cheap base one but if you want the real good stuff they’ll be way more” it’s a video game console, I really don’t know how much higher the price ceiling can go considering this just plays video games and movies. For the same price you get a pc that does the same and you can edit videos, buy older gen games, not pay to play online etc

[@Powerboss09]

I find it funny it off everything this guy didn't use the "is rdna4 that even the largest pcs don't have" argument

[@lostinthenight2005]

Oh s***, thx for reminding me that you can't use your old discdrive without deregister for the new ps5, so is that bad because the 60fps is not guaranteed for the new ps5 pro

[@TheHeartlessAlchemist]

BTW, here in Brasil this shit box is gonna cost R$ 3500.00. Sony suck.

[@TimothyCollins]

Hardware-wise, the PS5 Pro is certainly worth it. I am sure a gaming PC of comparable power would cost at least as much. But PS5 Pro or Gaming PC, my question is the same: Power is great but what games are going to make use of it? I don't have an 8K TV so that aspect is useless to me. And the current PS5 hasn't really been truly exploited yet so I can't see any games coming for the Pro. And that is the same for a PC - all that power is nice but totally useless since the games aren't there. What are we gonna play on it? More Fortnite/Overwatch?

[@sharjeelahmed7913]

He's so obsessed with 60 fps but won't spend on a PC instead, which has been given 60fps for a decade or so Edit: It's actually so stupid that dudes like him would pay 300$ for a "slight improvement" but in reality if you go from a 2060 Super to a 3070, you can literally go from a 1080p 60fps to a literal 1440p 60 fps experience for 100-120$ more

[@blissband3601]

The nes played games at 60 fps

[@josuemauricioumanarodas]

I would love to see that person keeping that same energy if that person was anywhere outside the US. Because you do know that the price for the ps5 pro is somehow worse.

[@jordanking7711]

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with Cat Man. It would be okay if they had improved on the base PS5, because THEN that would have justified the price they were asking. But you know what? THEY HAVEN"T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Because let's see, they've omitted the disc drive and ONLY available as an option, they've omitted the vertical stand and again ONLY available as an option, STILL no FULL backwards compatibility which you WOULD have expected with a Pro refresh, and the only thing that's new is a bigger GPU (oh whoopiedoo I can't wait, I think NOT), advanced ray tracing (which I don't know about you but is the EXACT same thing as the GPU considering the ray tracing is handled BY the GPU, so it's not really a selling point), and AI upscaling, and they have the audacity to charge us $1000 for it (in Australia that is with the disc drive and vertical stand)? For that amount of money they are charging, they SHOULD have included the disc drive, SHOULD have included the stand, and they SHOULD have given us what we've been screaming for for ages, full backwards compatibility. And Cat Man is telling us to 'stop whinging' for lack of a better word? We are consumers and therefore have the right to call something out when we see it.

[@Racine_]

Sony thinks they can pull an Apple, and we don't even like it when apple does it!😂

[@Gallant_Tuba_Knight]

I don't get it.. how could you understand his speech when he was arguing why getting scammed was ok while simultaneously glazing Sony?

[@VonDutchNL]

It's so funny how these Ponies defend EVERYTHING Sony does. A pc 3 times more expensive all of a sudden? Lol. I have a lenovo yoga pro 9i for 1000.. with an RTX 4060. Ps5 pro in Europe will be like 900 Euros

[@All-kh6vi]

Ironically, he's arguing why a pc is better.

[@workbirdygaming]

I'm the guy that's gonna come out on top! I'm buying a ps5 pro and I'm gonna flip it for $1800 and by then, nvidia should have released a date and price of the 5090 😊

[@xOriginalGamerOG76x]

¥119,850 = £659 €799 = £850 $699 =£590 £699 = $913 = €850 = $913 The money I was going to spend on the Pro is now going on a second hand Digital edition which will be jailbreaked. Single player games for free.

[@josephfreisinger1488]

Most games aren't going to be 60fps on the PS5 pro what over price of shit

[@patriciamorgan2521]

Griffin Gaming is the PS5 Pros target audience

[@thenosid951]

So @GamersNexus showed the ps5 benchmarked as a 1070, a 1080 when its really optimised, even 40% more perfs would be outdated perfs at that price.

[@akudapapua]

Even at 30fps you arent hiting Native 4k on these consoles. Its 1080p-1440p upscaled to 4k

[@evacody1249]

😂🤣 they still will say other wise which is funny.

[@akudapapua]

@evacody1249 it is funny. Some games are even lower than 1080p on the render. It's bad. Meanwhile I'm playing in native 4k 😂😂😂😂

[@Billyitsangel2]

I ain't defending the price, but they said you could take your disk drive off your base model and use it on the pro.

[@Reploid-dj9jc]

Wait so they said you could open your ps5 and take out the disc drive ? Or was there already a external disc drive. Would not be the best idea considering the fact that it's liquid metal cooled and apparently very prone to leaking if the ps5 is opened in any way .

[@grthjryrd7552]

@@Reploid-dj9jc i dont think you ever seen a machine in your life lmao. Yeah the paste is gonna be in between on every piece like a sandwich

[@Reploid-dj9jc]

@@grthjryrd7552 why aren't you a sunshine , no i don't own a PS5 so guess what i'm guessing but last i checked the disc drive of the ps5 is rather deep and non removable and then someone saying oh you need to remove the disc drive questions are gonna be raised . now sony could have used most of the metal of the ps5 as a heatsink so the main cooler on the CPU/GPU can be stuck to the main metal which means to get in the ps5 you need to also need to instantly remove the main heatsink which causes the issues other people have been getting that the liquid metal leaked into the rest of the PS5 essentially ending the PS5 permanently . again all guessing cause i don't know what a PS5 looks like under all the plastic .

[@The_Maister.]

It sucks but it will sold out anyway. There are a lot of mindless NPCs out there.. Its the same as people overpaying for Apple crap...

[@leeviheiskanen1271]

Would be funny if PS6 launches in just two years after PS5 Pro

[@kuda1532]

You think the EU and UK prices suck, us South Africans are paying PS5 Pro prices for the base PS5($856 conversion), imagine how much we are gonna pay for the pro

[@HebrewGamer100]

I gotta say, because so many KZbinrs talk like Nintendo doesn't exist. the Switch This gen has been more profitable than any other gaming platform. They don't have 3rd party support and don't need it as most of the games which have sold 30 million or more this generation are on the Switch and are owned and/or made by Nintendo. They get to keep all that money and they don't have to share it and anybody who puts games on their platform have to pay Nintendo for the privilege. It's why Nintendo putting their games on PC would be asinine. The competition are redheaded step children compared to Nintendo this generation.

[@ZerohSyks]

Please Sony, may I have some more?

[@wolfrenflame1832]

It's like saying Apple has no competition so they charge more. Get real