The Pump Action Mod Fallout 4 Needed

[@Triaxx2]

One would think after several hundred F4 videos now, Dak would remember the mine at the door of Scrap Palace.

[@joltganda]

If the base game had a pump action it would probably be fed a mag from the side or something, since they didn’t bother with any bullet counted reload animations.

[@an_ac_unit]

There’s actually a mod like that, The Mothman M2 shotgun pack

[@johnkirsch5479]

IIRC the functionality is there: the LAR from Far Harbor was supposed to actually count the rounds, but it's glitched. I believe it functions as such in FO76.

[@Tyrranis]

@@johnkirsch5479 It does. There's also a pump-action shotgun in 76 too.

[@dougk1315]

@@johnkirsch5479I’ve always heard it called a glitch but I don’t understand how something not in the game can be a glitch

[@bp42s56]

@@dougk1315it can be a glitch because it’s not implemented correctly, obviously

[@lunareclipse1882]

Its fun to see diacute goin back and giving some old mods a little bit of elbow grease so they are a bit to the flavor of the day

[@BeefyBacardi]

Pump action shotgun mod? Sure. I already got 4 of them that I like... but what if they need a friend?

[@spadey01]

7:30 The rats send their regards.

[@yoshipeamachinespawn3658]

Chances are, that raider was an agent sent by them in case Dak doesn't make a review vid on anotber Rat Runner's Arsenal gun. ...but because they were a raider, they attacked too soon.

[@LeleiTheTigress]

0:19 "diverse set" is certainly an overstatement considering Fallout 4's weapon sandbox

[@LeadingMole058]

I long for the day a magazine fed pump action appears on the Xbox mod page

[@DakalaShade]

I'd want one for PC. I get that everyone's drooling over Bullet Counted Reload, but I want to split the difference between the Double Barrel's "bang, bang, and reload" and the semi-auto's rapid-fire capability. Slower rate of fire (because it's manual action) but rapid reload. The shotgun for the mid-game where your double barrel is too shit to use, but you're not finding combat shotguns yet, leaving you with _no_ shotgun. Yes, I'm weird for wanting to feed a pump shotgun with a magazine. It'd be a great early-to-mid-game option for players who are fed up with constantly having to reload every two shots, or grinding legendaries until you get a Never-Ending Double Barrel, but haven't leveled enough to reliably find Combat Shotguns.

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

Call me crazy, but I straight-up can't even enjoy this game without having AT LEAST a few more pistol mods and a few more shotguns; pump-action mandatory. I will suspend my disbelief for a lot, Fallout 4, but only 3 kinds of fucking pistols left in Boston? And one of them is unique?! I can't.

[@Pigness7]

Dedicated pistols* and 2 are unique, other being alien blaster

[@TheShadowRiot.]

@@Pigness7 10 mil, pipe, deliverer, alien blaster and maybe the acid soaker?

[@Pigness7]

​​@@TheShadowRiot.Pipe, pipe revolver, Laser and plasma are all convertible between laser and plasma so they're not dedicated. You missed .44 tho.

[@armydude11011]

10mm pistol .44 mag revolver , deliverer and the alien blaster are the only base game dedicated pistols if I remember correctly the Lazer pistol plasma pistol pipe pistol and pipe revolver are all convertible into rifles

[@drivanradosivic1357]

the Fallout 4 and 76 Laser and Plasma guns are the equivalent of starting off with the Mozin Obrez that you restore into a rifle form again. We need the Fallout 3 and NV Laser Handgun with Small energy cells and Plasma handgun with new Small Plasma cells. and a Energon pack using Laser LMG and a Plasma cartridge using Plasma LMG. on handguns again, the Deliverer should have been a unique 10mm version of Compact pistols aka American Walther PP and PPk pistols, with many handgun options of stuff for Munitions mod arsenal. Pistols, Machine pistols and Revovlers of various sorts of caliber for Infantry only with the Vanilla 10mm sized handguns are for Power armor use type of choice. obviously, American pistol, machine pistol and Revolver options for various ammo, and the Chinese pistol is obviously a infiltrator 10mm version so Neheer's Chinese pistol mod as base game option. maybe even some sort of Gauss handcannon. Oh, the BB rifle mod that has a Gauss rifle modifications option would also be great to have. we need Handgun only option for single shot break action shotguns, double barrel side by side and over under versions, Single shot shotgun with Alof's mag attachment option, double barrels side by side and over under variants, Pump actions, lever actions, semi auto mag tube version, semi auto mag version, full auto only shotgun, the Combat shotgun. plus all the various shotgun versions, like .410, 12g, 10g and 20options, you can even add in a KS23 type of shotgun with around 4 bore shotgun shells with a single shot and double barrel version and of course, various shotgun ammo options for everything! what do you think of this? plus some ammo options for everything.

[@TheWhoamaters]

We just witnessed an assassination attempt. Raider thought he was that guy.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Dak is the New Trump. Betcha that was a Todd Howard Job.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Which is why the Would Be Assassin SUCKED.

[@TheWhoamaters]

@@OleDirtyMacSanchez Bruh what

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

@@TheWhoamaters Poking Fun at Todd Howard with how he actually hates Modders because they usually Fix Bethesda's screwups, along with Todd's Superiority Complex. Wouldn't be too far off for Todd to try doing things like that considering those things. Would it be Feasible for Todd to do this like that in the Game, maybe.

[@peppermillers8361]

@@OleDirtyMacSanchez Todd doesn't care. He isn't as heads on with the games as he used to.

[@jasohavents]

This is one of the good things 76 actually did. And that was adding Pump shotguns. Funny how starfield even screwed it up but yet the neglected hate-child did it right. Also the age old 'If New Vegas had X why doesn't 4 have X'. I don't even think Todd, Phil or any of the Higher ups even touched New Vegas, let alone took notes.

[@peppermillers8361]

They did. The faction war in Fallout 4 is trying to emulate it, but for from a successful degree. Didn't Starfield have one pump action shotgun?

[@Cr4zyKrow]

0:26 The weapon attachment system was such a big focus they didn’t really care about standalone guns. They really doubled down on the modular system for one can be all I.e 10mm pistol Laser gun and the combat guns. I hope they can keep this system but also have a focus of having dedicated guns to specific roles. Kind of miss that from 3 and new Vegas just improved on 3’s system. 4 improved on it. But would have liked to see the laser/plasma pistol and rifle be separate weapons with the customization we have in 4 A little more to add I will say I very much like the weapon Variety in 76. It would be a shame to see so many of these weapons be DLC weapons and not be in Fallout 5’s base game.

[@redenginner]

Honestly I hope they don’t make a Fallout 5. At least not without firing Emil and making an actual design document.

[@Pigness7]

@@redenginner Emil never said they don't have a design document, you just miss interpreted what he was, albeit poorly, trying to say. He said there isn't just one long central design document, there's a bunch of separate long design documents for different aspects and parts of the game. Plus 95% of the time he's not the one who makes the bad decisions.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

I would prefer the modular weapon modifcation system with even more weapons to use instead of the equivalent of having the Laser and Plasma Mozin Obrez you restore into a rifle, give us Laser Handgun in Small Energy packs ala Fallout 3 and New Vegas and Plasma Handgun with new small Plasma cartridges for options seperate from the Laser and Plasma rifle platforms. oh, and a Laser LMG and Plasma LMG version would also be nice. give me Pistols, Machine pistols and Revolvers for various calibers. 10mm pistol and 10mm SMG, .45 pistol and SMG, 9mm Pistol, Machine Pistol and SMG among other stuff is what I want more of.

[@Cr4zyKrow]

@@drivanradosivic1357 oh yeah I’m on Xbox but I make sure Munitions is always in my load order and download weapons that use those ammo types. I would like to see a lot of these ammo types return alongside New Vegas ammo system where there are AP or Hollow point rounds and you have an ammo type switch hotkey.

[@treyeaves1576]

This such a great mod in my opinion. It’s definitely a great alternative to Dak’s own 870 Pump Action. This is definitely more for those that like the Hunting Shotgun from NV with the attachment variety of 76.

[@peppermillers8361]

either that or the Hunting Shotgun. They used to be one of the only pump action shotguns for Fallout 4.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

The real Problem is No Mod Author has took up fixing Bullet Counted Reload for Console, unfortunately.

[@AllSystemFailure]

It's not that modders _haven't_ fixed BCR for console, it's that it isn't possible. BCR relies on the Script Extender, something you need to download off-site and drop directly into FO4 inorder for it to work, the Script Extender, as such, is not usable on console, so any mods they rely on it can't be ported, atleast not fully.

[@bp42s56]

@@AllSystemFailure a non-f4se version of bcr is available on xbox

[@alexmxgoldfarb]

There is but i’m fairly certain it relies on support of each individual mod to work, a few have been added to BCR like deadpools hunting shotgun, lever action rifle, covadungas M870 and a hadful of others but thats it. I had installed up until very recently but i hd that many weapon mods that weren’t supported i could no longer justify the mod space. Also if a mod is updated or changed its no longer no longer compatible with BCR 😭.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

@@alexmxgoldfarb That's why BCR needs a Steward for the Mod. Someone who cares enough, and is willing to put in the Time and effort to make things right with BCR. But also someone that alot of Mod Authors are willing to work with. We are still Human and have Personalities and People also get Fickle.

[@alexmxgoldfarb]

I definitely agree 👍🏻 Its such a shame as BCR is such a good mod and it makes all the difference in a playthrough, especially with lever and pump action weapons. Yeah i know what you mean, when BCR was made there was not many options when it came to pump actions to choose from but there’s loads to choose from so a person updating and managing the mod would be great, but i get mod authors change and move on 👍🏻

[@DavidFisher-nu4by]

Honestly this is one shotgun that should've been in fallout 3 as well given the much more urban/ city environment, would of been common to see on law enforcement and citizens alike.

[@RobertEdwinHouse.]

dak you should make an AR7 survival rifle

[@wastelander138]

With all the weapon mods I've added to my game. A pump action is something I believe I am missing. Got the cranky, duplet, AA12 prototype from what I remember.

[@slaterock4612]

Good to see more pump action shotgun mods being made. Only thing I hate about them is the animations in power armor tend to be wonky.

[@HarryO_Possum]

What I dislike about some of them is how the action (or reload) is often louder than the gunfire itself. Raspy sounds are hard on my ears.

[@Luigi2088]

Ive yet to replace your police shotgun. That thing is a mainstay in my LO. I do wish it had BCR, but its never really been an issue.

[@Cr4zyKrow]

To anyone on Xbox if you’re downloading this, with BCR (bullet counted reload) already implemented put this at the bottom of your load order. I haven’t downloaded it (not sure if it’s on Xbox yet. But like F4NV Single action army BCR works if it’s at the bottom of your load order you don’t need BCR System For Xbox for it to works. Same for Hitmans and Anistars right hand lever action reload. Hoping this mod works the same.

[@Mythichord]

One mod I would give my left arm to see created some day is a alternate over under that can have reflex sights and stuff I think something like the BOSG12 from RB6S would be really cool all black with some of the more modern fallout attachments I have very niche love for tactical/modernish over under shotguns like the real life “Mossberg HS12 Eventide” or the “Stoeger Double Defense”

[@HarryO_Possum]

Praised be the God Emperor for Diacute and whoever else has been reviving these old mods. Now, if only Bethesda had bothered to, oh, I don't know... add a damn bullet counted reload system for FO4 with the "next-gen" update instead of saw launchers and a piggy bank mod for the Fat Man.... oh well. Mustn't grumble, I guess.

[@Pigness7]

That level of engine upgrade would break EVEN MORE mods

[@HarryO_Possum]

@Pigness7 you'd know more about that than me. Still, I would've rather had _it_ than silly weapons. There was a BCR mod that worked pretty well (with Deadpool2099's Hunting Shotgun, anyhow) on Bethnet, but it never really received support (or patches, I suppose) for many weapon mods, unfortunately.

[@Diakyuto]

Diacute's mods are terrible

[@Just_Lionz]

What mods does Dak use to make his game look like that?

[@jjforcebreaker]

I was just testing it yesterday lol. Overall pretty good mod, won't replace chrislor2882's Remington 870 (along with the overpowered AA-12- my fav mod shotgun), but it's one of the better ones out there. The only issue I had was the dirty/worn out texture(mask), which should be separate from the material option (the only 'alternative' option is clean and without dirt, no way to get copper or bronze), plus I think holo sight had some issues at least for me, and was weirdly misaligned in an annoying way. Or maybe I'm mixing it with Stevens M-520 Shotgun. Or maybe both have some issues hmm. One way or the other- pretty cool mod for people not interested in 'tier 0 operator Future Warfare' firearms and looking for some proven, satisfying classics.

[@claudio6636]

Really nice mod i must say! Only thing im wondering now is, how would this and your police shotgun go in the same playtrough? (Keep in mind i play with TrueDamage, soo dmg stats dont worry me much)

[@Diakyuto]

Use Dak’s it’s better

[@an_ac_unit]

Hey Dak, great video as always! Was just wondering if you’d ever consider doing a mod for the Mini 14? There’s one on the nexus, but it’s just not quite right. I feel like you could really do it right!

[@joshuabeatty7371]

Love fo4's random enemies spawn messing with the videos, bethesda ai at it's finest.

[@hollow6665]

i have to ask will we ever got Starfield mods on the channel ???

[@raymondclifford6742]

Anyone know what armor he is wearing???

[@TheWhoamaters]

Wait, is Tactical Reload now preferred over BCR?

[@peppermillers8361]

not from what I heard. It still breaks a good amount of mods from my memory.

[@arenwalesa]

DAK PLEASE... MY LOAD ORDER CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCHH T--T

[@naomy1701]

lol always those intruders >_< but honestly, by now if they dont show up in whatever variety, i start to wonder if its realy a Dak vid im watching 😅

[@EFIM_immersive_fun]

BTW, please, can u tell what mod do you use for these circle targets? I can't find it anywhere!

[@brockschannel3927]

I did notice the police shotgun mod had a problem with power armor. Hope you fix that .

[@Pigness7]

We dont make animations

they don't make animations

[@TheatreStyle]

I don't make animations

[@BeefyBacardi]

Someone else makes the animations... (just getting in on the gag)

[@American_Kazuma]

Like it won't fire or it just clips though?

[@winterjaguar3659]

Bullet counted reload doesn't work for this on xbox

[@danielvela690]

I just got this and I deleted all other shotgun mods bc of it , even deadpools witht the bullet count . This one is definitely my favorite better sounds and the impact when shooting is sooooo satisfying

[@PewTheToaster]

Bloogin

[@chaselane9827]

what outfit mod is that with the jacket and flannel?

[@EFIM_immersive_fun]

Oh, I noticed u started walking around with dogmeat🙂

[@ClaytonReich]

How do you get it to work on Xbox

[@Welter117]

What foliage mods is he using?

[@RomusSixgriffe]

Neat.

[@Diakyuto]

Yet another 870? Don't we have like 3 or 4 at this point? With this just regurgitating existing content no less. Fallout 4's modding drought has been horrendous these past few months.

[@bal.eyteen]

And no redeeming qualities smh. What the sigma

[@Pigness7]

Taking bets on what stupid nonsense dia will comment. My bet is on it including "hawk tuah"

[@Diakyuto]

Guffaw

[@wilomica]

So this is better than yours? I have it in my load order. Yours is nice. 20 guage? Hell no! 10 guage is lore friendly not 20 guage.

[@Diakyuto]

Use Dak’s it’s better

[@willowwright4638]

its a real shame bullet counted reload is broken in the next gen update because i can not be bothered to downgrade my game

[@TheDraco877]

Fallout 4? Diverse set of weapons? Lots of configurations however only like 15 different weapons. Not much variety really.

[@Pigness7]

you wont think fallout 4 has alot of weapons untill you have to make the attachment pack. thank GOD vanilla doesnt have that many weapons or we would have completely lost our minds.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

on the other hand, the statement when the attachment pack was made was "we are making this mod pack to give give more options for weapon that need it" paraphrased from memory. meaning those guns could have been your focus. however, if bethesda made those guns that way and Dak and Pig made the attachment pack for them, then it is possible that IF there were more guns in Base game, they would have been in need of the Attachment pack as well. ouch.

[@phantom_jay13]

Bethesda is afraid of Bullet Counted Reload. No lever action shotgun, no pump action shotgun, the DLC lever action rifle does not count bullets. One revolver that reloads all at once. No pump-action grenade launcher (or any grenade launcher at all) That and they try to hide FNV bc Obsidian made a better Bethesda game than Bethesda ever could. Also likely why they changed the perk system to two inferior methods bc FNV did perks better, the ammo system (no alt ammo types, FNV made and did excellently), wildly different weapon modding system (actually fo4 did much better in practice, but is *super* lacking in practice. But FNV had to work off of Fo3 as a system.)

[@willowwright4638]

there are in fact, grenade launchers in fallout 4.

[@Pigness7]

Yep Bethesda is afraid of BCR, that's why they implemented it inately in the next game, makes sense to me.

[@phantom_jay13]

@@Pigness7 likely because of how limited they were. In fo76 it is still buggy and slow and doesn't feel near as good as fnv

[@phantom_jay13]

@@willowwright4638 how many years did it take for a subpar grenade launcher to be added to the game.

[@Pigness7]

@@phantom_jay13 what the fuck are you talking about