THE REAL GHETTO BIRD

[@JonnyGiger]

1:37 nollie hardflip BACKSIDE* revert ;)

[@nedtempleton4873]

A Ghetto bird is actually a Nollie hardflip late backside 180, not backside revert.

[@gneisakmala]

Yea ghetto bird actually is hardflip backside 180 maybe?

[@nedtempleton4873]

@@gneisakmala No. Definitely not. A Ghetto bird is a Nollie hardflip late backside 180.

[@richservo3364]

@jonnygiger Kareem does actually do another one search Kareem Cambell Radlands on KZbin you find about a 15 second clip . It's incredible! P.S. big up on setting the record straight on Ghetto Birds . I vaguely remember reading about this trick somewhere back in the day then waiting to actually see it (before internet/social media)

[@tashi321]

@@nedtempleton4873 vouch, we always called a hardflip back180 a ghetto bird also what kareem does in the clip at the beginning is a fakie hardflip front 180 revert, not a backside revert

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

Kareems ghetto bird has always been one of my all time favorite looking tricks but damn seeing Giger struggle so much with just understanding it really gives me even more appreciation for what a master Kareem was and how ahead of his time that trick really was.

[@HanzsKlopek]

I watched the Tony Hawk video intro on Ps1 like 100000 times mostly because I wanted to see the amazing Gettho Bird by Kareem.

[@EreaserNL]

It's so crazy how high he pops, how early he catches and then reverts while not even touching the floor.

[@GodofLovers]

I heard it was the first true golden age of skateboarding.

[@mikeschmidt4800]

@@GodofLovers it really was young one, it really was.

[@paulsilva1357]

We were so lucky to be there. Was like 13 when this happened. So epic growing up then.

[@ryanp0342]

Thanks for picking up trash Jonny. The struggle is real.

[@w00tb0ss]

Heck ya. I don't think he just did it for video. Just a cool guy!

[@larryjimbob]

I always keep the spot clean. I've swept up broken bottles many times. The pay off?.....we get left alone to skate there because we keep it tidy! 😊

[@JakeCrawford]

i saw it on his instagram story, always being a broom to the local non skaters litter like mad

[@TheRealBeachBum]

Haha right

[@manashieldworld]

Just commented and wanted to piggyback. Him picking up the park is genuinely cooler than him landing an almost real ghetto bird (still cool as hell).

[@sebab_3641]

I love how there's just singular frame of Jonny's face that appears for a split second at 14:36

[@jewnersey7413]

Found that too hahah

[@luudest]

0:50 Kareem Campbell‘s Ghetto Bird is insane! 20 years ago. Out of time! The revert is barley 45 degress.

[@DanDunfordRSM]

Hey dude but why the 16+ minutes for 1 trick? There is lot of needless back-and-forth, please try to condense your videos!

[@colinschmidt3475]

@@DanDunfordRSM Yeah is 530 thousand subscribers clearly don’t like the way he’s doing things.

[@LEsconz]

He pops so high he has time to reserse mid air. I think that's the secret.

[@22Epic]

@@DanDunfordRSM That helps understand the difficulty of the trick.

[@luudest]

0:50 Maybe the trick is easier the steeper the bank 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Jesticles85]

i would call Kareem's version a Hardflip - Late 180. he barely even reverts. it's friggin insane!

[@joeferruccio4018]

yeah but its nollie hard.

[@HocusPocus7474]

Don't forget the nollie part but yes, that's what i'd say too. Kareem catches it and 180's before he lands, Jonny lands and then 180's

[@Dontbustthecrust]

Oh my God that's the same thing

[@fernandoreyes680]

Kareem's ghetto bird is basically a nollie bigspin hardflip

[@daemn42]

Frame at a time can see he's only about 90 degrees around when the back wheels touch the ground, but I agree that he's initiating in the air, while Giger is doing it on the ground. Close, but not the same trick.

[@evanwilliams8908]

Kareems version completes the 180 in the air. Just insane. Revert version is cool too but definitely not “ the real ghetto bird”

[@903bloodjinn]

i was going to say that same thing

[@davelister3901]

indeed same thought. almost like more speed and popping it sooner on bank may give more time for the 180 in johnnys situation. also he's doing it on concrete here instead of wood could make a difference. legendary clip can still hear the 411 song on it lmao.

[@aaronwetzel1981]

I understand that Kareem's flips differently and is caught differently, but I think the main thing that makes Kareem's real is because he does it nollie

[@DoggoWillink]

He clearly said it wasn’t as good.

[@3XJ-DreamWoods]

He even said that in the video?

[@mauryj8214]

Johnny looks like two different people 😂, when he’s skating he’s a monster at skating, when he talks to the camera he’s the friendliest man you’ll see

[@nyhilest342]

Kareems 180 before it hits the floor is too insane.

[@lasergaming6166]

This trick was always one of my favorites, glad to see you try it!

[@BANKROLSGALLERY]

Try it?😂😭 you mean do it?

[@peazeralus]

@@BANKROLSGALLERY uhhhh... Yep. You gotta try it before you do it... 🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelwalker4087]

@@BANKROLSGALLERY he didn't do it. Kareem 180s before he hits the ground not after LOL

[@AndrewSchrock]

Amazing video brother! Proper trick to tackle and all around amazing skating. The keeping your skatepark clean at the end bit ruled too

[@nicknauj124]

So glad that revive supports Giger. He’s amazing.

[@claysoggyfries]

I think that one clip of Kareem Campbells ghetto bird is the best one ever. Haven’t seen a better one yet

[@muttonvindaloobeast8160]

No school like the old school

[@JeffersonSteelflexx]

I did a better one I just didn’t have the cameras on

[@chance_hollow]

I thought he coined the trick?

[@joshuaha7661]

@@chance_hollow Kareem? Yeah, he did.

[@user-fd5ew3sf5z]

Yeah cause a bank is way more impressive than a 16 stair or dtla triple set or even Wallenberg

[@ChadOHara98]

Dude, the mountains in your area are f*king singing, so beautiful! Btw, my Giger drip deck will be here tomorrow. so stoked!

[@brianschneck3423]

Thos are melted buildings from the past civilization

[@javierv.5242]

15:07 kareem does 180 before wheels touch the ground.

[@sisingh3549]

Yea but he did say in the video he probably won't get it as clean as kareem

[@SpaceCadetLaC]

@@sisingh3549 But he states in the begining that a real ghetto bird is a nollie hardflip frontside 180 revert. When its a nollie hardflip fronside 180 because there is almost no revert in kareems clip.

[@judehamilton1054]

Watch in slow mo at 0.25. You can see he has 2 wheels in contacts with the ground at about 90 degrees

[@judehamilton1054]

15:07

[@michaellyons3808]

He literally said he was gonna do it with the revert

[@ChintzMusic]

god bless jonny giger, king of fliptricks and patron saint of clean earth

[@Cee8ch215]

Radrat one of the best channels on KZbin good to see u showing it some love

[@fernandoreyes680]

Definitely!

[@DFunct905]

That guy is a hypocrite. He calls himself a skate historian, but he released a vid where he says we should erase elements of skating history because they’re ‘offensive.’ I lost all respect for him after that vid.

[@fernandoreyes680]

@@DFunct905 Hahaha he just doesn’t want to offend people. I’m not mad at that

[@DFunct905]

@@fernandoreyes680 Skateboarding has always been about being a little offensive. It’s supposed to have some edge. It’s already too corporate and inoffensive now. That’s why I’m unhappy with his position. If he thinks parts of skateboarding are offensive he’s free to personally ignore them.

[@fernandoreyes680]

@@DFunct905 If he decides to be respectful, why does that bother you? You can still be offensive if you want man, he ain't stopping you

[@GGMattt]

It should be a thing that you get a Professor title, you're like a skateboard scientist and a pretty rad skater too. Professor Jonny Giger 👌🏻

[@joshuaha7661]

8:13 Nollie pressure flip! My signature trick lol someone always gets a letter when I throw one out there haha.

[@drbjr8223]

cool trick, also can we talk about how clean Daro was in his few clips...sheesh

[@SplendidFellow]

Your video editing and production quality is just so damn good, Jonny Giger!

[@poisoncurls882]

Dude Niiiiiice! I love the side by side comparison. I was a little skeptical when you did it, but seeing that comparison, it was spot on. The way you ride away just like him is awesome! GG dude.

[@mikel888666]

Ayyy the Rad Rat shoutout made me happy, most underrated channel

[@DFunct905]

I used to watch his channel, but he lost me with his bs about renaming tricks so we don’t offend people. I’m not the only one sick of the corporate PC crap infecting skating now. People will always be offended. It’s not skaters that need to change.

[@mikel888666]

@@DFunct905 I do feel you with the corporate PC crap, but I honestly like the name weddle grab. Especially because there was a reason that one was offensive. Tricks like a 'sex change' though I reckon is fine. It's just a name and it's not like we're saying sex changes or bad or we're being mean to trans people or anything. And with being a YT channel, having an opinion that isn't what everyone deems correct gets people in trouble 99% of the time lmao

[@Dontbustthecrust]

@@DFunct905 thats like .0001% of rad rat's overall content. Get over it.

[@kodfish]

Thanks for this video! I've gotten into a few discussions on youtube re: ghetto birds. The way i understand ghetto birds is that the revert is in the same direction as the horizontal part of the hardflip. What is popularly known as a ghetto bird, to the best of my knowledge, is actually called a chetty thomas.

[@lackorluck4388]

So sick! When I write funky beats I often think of iconic sk8 parts! I love how you touch on the history of each trick!

[@antothemanto77]

I wanna see Giger try and get that late back 180 all in the air like Kareem does. That’d be sick!

[@BillBrasky86]

kareem catches it so high. he also does that thing where he can turn his hips but not his shoulders, mark suciu does it well.

[@jimik7354]

Gotta love the baggy jeans. Man i miss the ones Boom used to make, they were massively baggy. God like skill as always.

[@slappurplecows]

Johnny picking up the trash at the end was the main reason I liked this video.

[@whitetrashandhellbound6905]

I love that Johnny shows the Trials and Tribulations of learning new tricks. It never goes away, that dirty learning curve. I see so many kids at the park just want instant gratification when they jump on a board. They see all these youtubers just showing the "Glammer Moments" of skateboarding. Makes it seem like everytime you touch a board and it's just Magic Happening Everywhere lol. Not the case. Even at Johnny's Level (Pro+) he still has trouble getting it right. Mind you, with his skill set he will get it 1000x faster then someone that is new to skateboarding, but still, he is in the trenches learning with the rest of us. He shows that part of his day and it is nice to see. "The Process", it's the same for all levels of Skaters and it cannot be ignored... The Process WILL make or break you ☠🤟 ALWAYS CLEAN YOUR PARK CLEAN... get ya ass kicked around here for that littering bullshit.

[@drumboarder1]

Thaaaaank you, the hardflip revert bugs the crap out if me when it's called a ghetto bird, it's so much easier than the real one

[@drumboarder1]

@Daniel S what's a kickflip

[@muttonvindaloobeast8160]

@Daniel S I cant kickflip, but I can nollieflip, heelflip, 360flip, the list goes on. Kickflips are a bitch for me to land. Doesn't mean I cant skate though 😉

[@muttonvindaloobeast8160]

@Daniel S tf u on about? I dont tape myself skating. I skate. Sorry if that makes you butthurt

[@muttonvindaloobeast8160]

@Daniel S Jealous much? 😁

[@joshuaha7661]

I like both tricks. Kareems is a completely different trick, so idk I wouldn't compare the two really. Them having the same name is annoying, but both are crazy difficult.

[@AC-ld4np]

Dude, I always love the background soundtracks you choose! You have great taste, my man.

[@lightskintomahawk8491]

This guy loves his friend soooo much

[@awesomedaryman]

Danke fürs Aufsammeln vom Müll, Jonny!! Du bist der Beste!! Nicht nur im Skaten!! Grüße aus Wien!!

[@xavierwhitton4018]

Legit one of my favourite bits of this channel is Jonny and Daario’s bromance.

[@curtisjohnson1992]

Shout out to you for picking up the trash at the end. that's part of the reason why you're my favorite skateboarder out there right now!

[@KompetenzMontages]

I would call the hard flip back 180 "modern ghetto bird"

[@eddyedge9859]

Chetty Thomas)

[@drumboarder1]

That's because you're wrong

[@KompetenzMontages]

@@drumboarder1 what do you mean?

[@drumboarder1]

@@KompetenzMontages it's just so much easier that it's a bit disrespectful to kareem, hell I've landed some shitty ones by accident

[@joejoe2658]

like an UAV drone then...

[@dominicwaghorn6459]

They say work smarter not harder, but your content literally requires sheer grit and hard work and that has its own merit.

[@johnorosz7477]

Kareems ghetto bird has always been one of my all time favorite looking tricks but damn seeing Giger struggle so much with just understanding it really gives me even more appreciation for what a master Kareem was and how ahead of his time that trick really was. Kareem Campbell‘s Ghetto Bird is insane! 20 years ago. Out of time!

[@CrimsonGhost999]

Thank you for picking up other people's trash, you are a bonus to the human race! ☝️

[@ogmike6444]

bro what the most famous clip he does it over a huge ass hip in europe in like 98 that is not the only footage

[@nicknauj124]

I have so much love for this guy. Big bromance for sure. Keep it going buddy. Your awesome. Love the videos.

[@maltdairy2164]

I respect the hustle. The secret to Kareem's ghetto bird is simply that the dude has insane ups. And also, his bank was steeper. The steeper the bank, the further your push out horizontally from take off point, which also means the further the drop. He naturally was going to have more air time. You'd need a few more inches of height and another half-second of air time to catch at and revert midair.

[@xn-triq7607]

I love your modesty Jonny, we all know damn well you're going to nail it!!!!

[@JobyP]

Pivot... don’t... count.... still amazing.

[@jpbs3395]

You’ve become my favorite skater. I watch all the vids cuz I like skating. Im 34 yrs old. Haven’t skated in ages. But I’m trying to teach my son and get back into it. So thanks for the recaps on tricks.

[@ewoknroll]

same i watch a bunch for the nostalgia of it all. Giger is among a small few who do this kind of stuff. check out jamie griffin, eli frost and jason park too

[@skater-ginger]

Yours videos represent perfectly why i love skateboarding

[@DingusMcBrungus]

I know it's been said, but there's a big difference between a nollie hardflip revert and a nollie hardflip late 180. Just because it goes in Berrics-rules games of skate doesn't make it the same thing. That said both are still sick tricks

[@MystifierMan]

Yeah, one of the years I saw a guy do a hardflip revert. And the defense got counted with a kickflip body varial.

[@anylife_photography]

Even your sloppy landings are the stuff that only happens in my dreams 😂

[@4x4organics74]

Kareem is to this day, still kiiling it on a board. First deck I ever owned was a Campbell deck and i will forever favour it. True street legend.

[@beanberg]

6:55 starts nollie hardflips 7:53 nollie hardflips on bank 8:40 adds reverts 11:58 lands one 14:25 Jonny gets a better angle because Jonny is the best

[@noah730]

thank you sm for the time stamps

[@boosthack7915]

Great video bro! My favorite was the Rodney Mullen tricks. That guy is a magician on a board.

[@paranormalrushhour]

I remember watching Kareem do it in the World part of the Mullen vs. Song video back in the day, and it always looked a certain way because he would cross, uncross, and then what looks like recrossing (when the revert begins) his legs like that before he landed. All that crisscrossing is what makes it an authentic Ghetto Bird.

[@ilbaro2910]

You are the best skate yt in the world dude!! Support from italy EVERY DAY!

[@motherjesse]

You rock, Jonny! Your country is beautiful! I can’t wait to visit someday!

[@hackhackdelete3267]

Congratulations! I really enjoy watching you skate. Makes me want to grab my board, go out and look silly at 46.

[@tunafishboi4236]

I love seeing nollie/fakie tricks. Kareem and Daewon do them so clean!

[@reptilez13]

It's almost like he does a nollie 360 hardflip but turns 180 with the second turn of the board... Awesome vid man!

[@jespermassart2937]

Damn dude... every video I’m always amused by how good your skating is! If there’s one thing in live I’d like to accomplish its getting as good as you while skating at 10% of your skill level! Also respect for cleaning up the park! Love the vids!!

[@nausi5105]

The way Kareem catches the board with so much steaz... kudos to you for pulling off such an iconic trick. This was originally the reason I learned hard flips lol. Couldn't ever get the nollie hard down though 😅

[@Shauny_D]

Maaaan, I don’t skate at all never have but I for some reason watch all your videos. Keep up your good work, positivity and sticktoitiveness

[@kareemcampbell8355]

You should rock the baggy pants more often G, they suit you

[@MaSter-mw3rb]

You have to own the record for most completed different tricks.

[@vincehousekeeper6931]

15:40 ganz Gut das die Müll weggeholt werd. Sowas nerft mich auch immer!

[@supernintendochalmers6628]

it's so sick to watch this vlog format for skateboarders. it's actually REALLY brilliant. and Jonny Giger shows his failed attempts.... Also brilliant. that's how you build a f*cking community! Rock solid channel. ✊

[@anthonyorr8868]

nice work mate. back in the day, my buddies and i knew the hardflip late back 180 as a "chetty thomas" cause thats what jimmy carlin called it. i remember at some point, "ghetto bird" took over

[@elikerr785]

yes, and CT also did double h/f backside body varials if i remember correctly...

[@flamezoidtron]

Jonny Giger.....man you are a legitimate legend brother! just a great guy all around! Tries his best to land insane tricks....while also being a great guy and cleaning up after other littering skaters!

[@flamezoidtron]

@Daniel S lmao fair play! nah I was actually referring to his litter discipline and how he takes the lead on that! props to him for being such a stand up dude!

[@shookstylez]

5:28 Props to the guy in the background practicing no comply shuvits

[@hoosky1143]

Pause when they're both at their apex. Kareem is roughly 2X higher. Pause as they both get all 4 down.Shows you how truly amazing the original trick really was

[@taneltolsting2900]

Steeper bank offers stronger resistance and therefore a faster pop. Yes, you are right. You might get it in a mellow quarterpipe or steeper bank.

[@inFAMOUSBeatsGFx]

8:45 Funny how, as soon as he starts thinking ahead to anticipate the revert, he starts failing all the hardflips that he previously landed. Great to see I'm not the only one having this problem! haha And dude, the ending is awesome. 🏆

[@toekneemarz8824]

I Love Rad Rat. Nice work Johnny 🤓

[@jmayfield]

Living in Europe, I love this time of year as the skateparks start to dry out and we can skate outside again.

[@Hachiko814]

Thank God someone finally made a video about it. I grew tired of telling the new school skaters about how the tricks are supposed to really look.

[@dcfromthev]

IIRC Kareem caught it and did the revert mid air, no pivot. That's a god right there. Still nice though Jonny, beast mode!

[@CarsCatAliens]

Your G birdy looked exactly the same. Hands, shoulders arms match one another... You're an amazing, and thank you for all great videos you post !

[@jb681131tube]

No, look in slow motion, you'll see that Kareem does the 180 in the air while Johnny does in with it's front wheel touche the ground.

[@CarsCatAliens]

@@jb681131tube lol, there is always one... Guess you are it

[@Case3117]

"THE REAL GHETTO BIRD" for life. Your vid is aawesome, great work all around

[@natesalverson2908]

Hard work pays off. It looks so much sicker with the revert

[@ADMD9029]

The music you chose goes really well with the era

[@Rafa-ci3ix]

Nice editing! Felt smoother and entertaining Insane tricks btw, I smile when you say a ghetto bird as a hardflip back 180 is fake when it’s already a trick only 1% skater can do

[@gavinbaker3341]

Please do a video on kiwi flip in depth I love the trick but can never understand how to get the rotation

[@ezufranzgrote5128]

He did like a month ago, like he learnt them and pretty much documented his thoughts so maybe that helps

[@gavinbaker3341]

@@ezufranzgrote5128 like it did really give much of an analysis he just said he did the scoop of a kiwi flip and flicked it like a heel flip

[@ezufranzgrote5128]

@@gavinbaker3341 well but you see the foot positioning and the progression... I don’t know how much more there is to say haha I can’t do the trick but I’m learning like the tre-flip version and something that helps is when you think like scoop with your Blackfoot kinda like a shovit till it’s around 90 degrees then you hook your toes (or for the kiwi flip heel) on the edge and follow it up. Like the direction you see in the videos... maybe that helps for the kiwi flip too

[@gavinbaker3341]

@@ezufranzgrote5128 okay, and if you need help on tre flips to steezy them instead of the under flip just put your foot at about a 45° angle and scoop and turn your foot inwards like rotate it with your ankle and it should flip around and hit your front foot

[@ezufranzgrote5128]

@@gavinbaker3341 yee thanks! thats what im trying to do. It really is just a tre flip not much of a underflip, but as you do it only with the back foot some people dont count them. same with the Kiwi flip and laserflip haha

[@docgmoney1790]

DUDE That REVIVE Board is so sick!!!! I dont even skate but thats beautiful right there

[@joem2917]

So cool that you keep your parks clean!! Way to be Jonny.

[@willcooper120]

I remember first seeing one of these in 97/98 where someone rolled up fakie on a steep bank and did a fakie hard flip full late bake side 180 (the opposite spin as Kareem’s) and road away funny enough in a very fakie foot position. The cool thing was the company, which I don’t remember which one (maybe spitfire), who’s add it was was offering an amateur sponsorship. Someone did it within two or three months and they announced the winner. I was in love with these and spent about a year learning them over pyramid hips in probably 1999 or 2000 and I eventually did a nollie hard flip late backside 180 over the Everett, WA skatepark hip on Casino rd in probably 2002. It was the only one I ever landed and took about 5000 tries LOL

[@carlossoares712]

Kareen's revert actually happens mid-air, in fact don't think of it as a revert it's really more like helicopter, but Giger's version is also great

[@tarnishedtony9925]

i haven't skateboarded in years yet here i am watching. thanks johnny your videos are awesome

[@headbandhenny2369]

What country is Johnny Geiger from

[@JonnyGiger]

switzerland :)

[@BRollOffroad]

it's funny to see you on Day 2 land the first one with too late of a revert, then spend the next few tries focusing on that and blowing your hardflips. then it's the conversation skate back we all do where we're like "ok. do the f'n hardflip- THENNN spot it, catch it, spin. START spinning earlier.." etc. that's why i love your vids, if you watch really closely you can track your adjustments and it's awesome to see the progression. edit: next clip was the make- excellent. also thanks for picking up the trash!

[@kennethwalker086]

Word litter makes an old Indian shed a tear.. sick flip as always

[@erikkoorn1049]

That "Hoi" from Dario sounded so Dutch xD, love the content Jonny ✌🏼❤️

[@bravadious1]

I love the inclusion of the trick being used in Tony hawk. Though that was the remake, whereas the original had a forced 180 after the flip. I remember bailing so much cos I didn't give time to land it haha

[@CapmLew]

Joy. Humility. Very pleasant video, JG. and good words about the trash.

[@Onus6688]

I always thought this was so cool back on Tony hawk video games lol

[@pressureflipin1992]

The thing about that trick....if you watch Kareem do it, he's already rotating his body before the nollie hardflip starts...he knows it's going to Flip, you have to get ahead of the board..

[@dankzip]

Dario is amazing dude!

[@fernandoreyes680]

1:06 that's not the only documented ghetto bird by Kareem tho. I've seen 2 more in different contests. Anyway, great video Jonny

[@conceptthehashtronaut5929]

At 2:38 he says that kareem said in an interview that hes only done it once , so how can you have seen it 2 more times than he said hes even done it? Im not hating, just curious as to the difference in statements.

[@fernandoreyes680]

@@conceptthehashtronaut5929 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHqcpoyIhq2roLc Watch this video and skip to 2:10 the guy shows the 2 other clips I’m talking about. It’s kinda weird that Kareem said he only did it once. Maybe he said that before he landed the other 2. Not sure tho

[@conceptthehashtronaut5929]

@@fernandoreyes680 that is absolutely likely he said it before doing it again. Totally possible. Thanks for this link. ✊🏿

[@iHoPStA]

Man..what a gorgeous view you have from the skatepark. ANyopne know where he's located?

[@ryanwilliams9984]

Props for cleaning up the mess at the end man. Also the ghetto bird was tight.

[@caiosanches2746]

Excellent example in the end brother! 👏🏼👏🏼

[@marshallrenner3507]

The rad rat shoutout!!! So sick supporting smaller creatures love u jonny

[@w00tb0ss]

Dang you are classy and a gentleman. Great tricks. I am a big fan of the crooked nose grind. My favorite thing to do on my snowboard. Well nose press. Cheers!