The REAL issue with Yandere Simulator

[@bentoboxes1171]

If only yan-dev kept his original info chan idea where she was the *real* final rival, yan can learns how badly she was manipulated, and we defeat her. But he scraped that, sadly...

[@callimara]

Same, I actually liked that idea better. :(

[@shaunnyy2819]

What if he actually didn’t scraped it or faked to convince to players that it does not exist anymore, but it will?

[@bentoboxes1171]

@@shaunnyy2819 it’s wishful thinking but I do wish for it! That would make everything make sense :’)

[@linahasdo6681]

Ya sure? Maybe he's lying to keep it a plot twist

[@Riverneedsdinner]

@Michael Brody yea, I dont care if it is predictable like, half the content I consume is very predictable but it is still great :/

[@cherrium1719]

Mad respect for resolving everything in a 25-minute explanation

[@callimara]

You're too kind XD

[@sauce5066]

24:26 minutes actually

[@allie7380]

Thank the heavens the video isn’t 2 hours and has no reason for that length

[@Popgurliess]

@@sauce5066 hermione energy

[@shaelynmartin1996]

Really sad when people try and create their own Yandere game as an indie developer, YanDev essentially bullies them into stopping because he claims it was "his idea" to begin with. Watashi No Mono started as a fangame, then evolved into its own game with its own story and its own characters. And YanDev bullied/harrassed EpicMealDev into quitting the project because of the constant messages from YanDev. Hint: I was real excited for Watashi No Mono after I bailed on the YanSim train and real salty at YanDev when it came out how much he was harassing EpicMealDev.

[@trippihippie7909]

He is just afraid someone will make a better game than him in a shorter amount of time.

[@Ich-Existiere-Nicht]

He should be glade when people make fun games of his game. It wasn't a ripoff. It was a fan game.

[@bestgirleva]

If I was yanderedev at this point I just won't care and force the developers to stop doing progress on the fangames I would just instead watch the developers of fan games progress. And just be proud of them

[@montelt7103]

Concerning the whole “Ayano shouldn’t be puppeteered (probably not how you spell it but I’m sure you know what I meant) by Info-Chan”, along with everything else she does. He could just replace Info-Chan with a childhood best friend (most people have friends they can be real with, so even someone nigh-emotionless could potentially have one) that may have noticed Ayano stalking Taro. She could misunderstand just how unhinged Ayano is (even best friends don’t share everything) and off handedly joke “if you wait too long, someone else might snatch him up” in a teasing way, not knowing how wrongly Ayano would take it. And as Ayano is doing this that and the other, she could ask for help from her best friend when she needs it. And most friends are willing to help their friend get the person they have a thing for, so one of those things might be asking the friend to talk to Taro (the best friend would have better luck talking to him then She would), and learn (reasonable) things about him that she otherwise wouldn’t be able to until she gets the courage to talk to him herself. This way she could learn things to win his affection, but if she did it too often, Taro might get the wrong idea and think the friend has a crush on him.

[@Treegona]

Oh, and BFF-chan might have suggestions (hints) on how to progress, but if you ask her too often, or if you don't ask her the right way, she'll figure out that Ayano is straight-up unhinged.

[@callimara]

Love this idea!

[@yourneighbourhoodbean]

maybe the best friend could have feelings for taro too, but she'd help ayano get with him even if it means losing the chance for her to be with him. maybe if taro gets the idea that she could have a crush on him, maybe taro would start trying to spend more time with the best friend. if you ask for help a lot, maybe you would have to eliminate your best friend earlier than if you asked less often, or maybe you wouldn't have to elliminate her at all! the best friend could be the potential 10th rival, and if not there would only be 9 rivals, or she could be the 11th rival unless taro doesn't try to get closer to her.

[@ChumChumPotato]

BFF-chan could be Taro's sister maybe??

[@crypticcorvid]

@@ChumChumPotato It'd be cool if you had to balance between how much information to share with BFF-chan if she was Taro's sister. She'd know a lot about him, but if Yan-chan(?) lets out too much information, his sister could tip off Taro and make him avoid Yan-chan.

[@owentravis8901]

I think it would be funny if Ayano killed all the female characters so the school ended up becoming an all boys school, Ayano gets expelled and Senpai gets with Budo

[@callimara]

Best ending

[@hazyhope._.]

Pfft I did that in an old 2020 build, before you'd get a Game Over by killing half the school.

[@shark_lover_BG19]

@@hazyhope._. awww man no gay Taro?

[@hazyhope._.]

Nah. Except every morning, I noticed he was the first person the Cooking Club leader ever gave food to. So...

[@dodachka]

tarobudo ending - best ending someone should make a mode out of it

[@sydneyd8367]

I feel that if info-Chan is to stay, she should be considered as just another student who is in a gaming club or something so it’d be more natural if she was in a lab alone after school and she’d be considered a quiet nerd and she could relay information she happened to hear in the hall or in passing rather than an all-knowing character.

[@timelapse11]

That would be a good idea, as a former 'quiet kid' at school, you tend to overhear a lot to of gossip. It would be a good way to keep her in the game.

[@robbietheweirdo]

I think if she was kept in that the player shouldn't be in contact with her right off the bat but instead find out who her associates are and befriend them. then you would gain her attention and her services. but I still think schemes should be Ayano coming up with them. I just think Info has potential but she shouldn't be some omnipotent entity playing god, but more just a provider of items and small info like where things are. it would make it more fun in my opinion

[@r1singhell]

YESSS INFO CHAN COULD BE AYANO'S CHILDHOOD FRIEND OR ONE OF HER CLOSE FRIENDS BUT IS CLUELESS OF WHAT AYANO IS DOING

[@kotaleartist]

lol imagine if she was the quiet kid who kept an anonymous gossip blog and often left blackmail notes to people if she needed a favor from there. using info-chan could be a short warning for getting caught scheming and if she notices you scheming too often she will post about you and it ruins your reputation. on the other hand you can slip her gossip to get her off your back or ruin your rival’s reputation.

[@partygarnele2405]

It would also make sense that the information you get is vague and not always true!

[@luxheverin2238]

I always thought Info Chan was just a lesbian and was upset all her crushes ended up liking Taro, so she wants to make him suffer so she lets Ayano kill off all the girls she used to like before they broke her heart.

[@callimara]

This is my favourite comment on this video.

[@NoodleNerd]

I don't think that approach would be a good idea. As much as I like the idea of Info-chan being LGBT+, that would play into the Psycho Lesbian trope way too much and it doesn't help that YandereDev himself is homophobic and has been known to fetishize lesbians himself. I still think Info-chan could still work in the game but I do agree that most of the plot of Yandere Simulator being mainly run by her does ruin the interactiveness of the game. I would suggest Info-chan having a more personal connection to Ayano, possibly a childhood friend. Considering that it's been implied that Info-chan's Dad might've been the investigator that tried to arrest Ayano's mother in the 1980's from the Tapes, that could be brought into significance for Ayano and Info-chan. But still, give Ayano an actual personality and maybe have Ayano be the one to help Info-chan with her problems. Returning favors in a way.

[@HavenHopeArt]

I actually really like this idea. Maybe there’s an info-Chan x Ayano ending? It’s just an idea lol!💖 I think it would be good if she was redeemable too. We can befriend her and find out she’s a person just like everyone else and is just kinda lonely? Maybe by helping her fall in love or discovering friendship, we get some advantages in game!

[@HUGEsSam]

@@HavenHopeArt osana x ayano best ship✨💅👀😩

[@HavenHopeArt]

@@HUGEsSam severely underrated haha!💖✨

[@helloitsphonie]

Lol I thought I was the only one who felt she's useless. When I watched the demo gameplay, I thought "Why is she getting commands? I thought she's going to do everything herself?"

[@callimara]

Yes, exactly!

[@lovefromwonderland]

Your points are so right, especially the Senpai one. I always thought it was ridiculous that Ayano wouldn’t be able to talk to him once because she “loses control.” Why would Senpai accept this random girl’s confession anyway? I sure wouldn’t. It would make more sense for them to be friends but Ayano is secretly in love with him, but then gets jealous that other girls are getting closer to him and worries that she’ll lose him. Yes, it’s cliche, but it’s much more flexible.

[@jujublue4426]

There's a mobile game named Yandere School in which the Yandere girl is indeed friend with the boy she loves, in Mirai Nicki (I hate that anime!) Yuno is with the boy she loves. It would be more natural to have Ayano interact with Senpai.

[@daydream_goddess7324]

Yeah, like... "senpai is too kind to reject a girl so I have to eliminate them" Then TELL HIM YOU LIKE HIM!! HE WOULDN'T REJECT YOU ANYWAY!!!

[@Guns.and.Gambling]

Also, Taro pretty much has the personality of a wet sock, so it doesn't even make sense for yan-chan to be willing to literally K!LL for him

[@baronsamedi5741]

Basically just turn Info-chan and Ayano into one character. I kinda wish the students were more developed, three dimensional and complex as more closer to being actual characters if not people. I personally am interested in the delinquent characters (not Osoro), but the boy delinquents. However, they were given a backstory of being transformed into different people from being introduced to the idea that fear can stop others from tormenting you and they're secretly struggling with the anxiety that they'd bullied towards ending themselves again if they returned to who they originally were. This by itself was an interesting idea to me and gives the delinquents potential to be great characters. The problem being that Yandere Dev never does anything with them, due to disliking writing male characters.

[@callimara]

Yup. Info-chan seriously doesn't need to exist. I'm actually on the fence about the delinquent characters since, if Akademii is such a prestigious school, then why would they allow delinquents to do whatever they want with no repercussions? If Ayano was caught carrying a sports equipment or anything really, she'd get in a lot of trouble but the delinquents seem to get away with it. Definitely agree that YandereDev just doesn't like writing male characters though.

[@baronsamedi5741]

@@callimara well, according to Yandere Dev, the delinquents were once victims of bullying, it was getting so bad that they decided to commit a pact of ending their lives together. The guidance counselor feels personally responsible for the way the delinquents turned out. The headmaster wanted to immediately expel them but the guidance counselor begged him to give her 2 months to rehabilitate them. Therefore, the delinquents were left under the guidance counselor's care and was allowed to do whatever they wanted for two months and the guidance counselor took responsibility for them. That's the reasoning we were given at least

[@gayslinky5236]

Now I know why taro is such a *shit* and bland character! I just thought he was a self insert lmao-

[@booboes0141]

@@gayslinky5236 i mean,,, technicallyyyy still a self inserttt

[@ChelDorado]

Dude seriously, he doesn't like writing male characters? Oh my god 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@iljazero]

I think info-chan could exist, however in my opinion it should be like this: you are yandere, but in this game you have stuff like be-friending osana etc, then what if info-chan fed on your problem, suggesting more.. violent ways of killing and making those ways overall cheaper, kinda leading you to them. then some people suggested that info-chan might be last rival and based on how you got rid of other rivals, she will act. then idea overall could be: info chan wants yandere to kill those girls because she herself is in love with senpai. Then idea is still that info-chan gives you info and etc, however you can choose to do stuff your own way. I think info-chan is just too neutral, she should be more ... agressive and vile character.

[@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323]

the dev's initial idea for info-chan was exactly what you described, but he scrapped it for being too "edgy" or "cheesy" (i don't exactly remember)

[@LadyTigeress]

@@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323 he's right tho in my opinion I think she's perfect having a non biased stance she offers you both ways amd doesn't judge plus it's boring having the yandere being an all knowing killer that's perfect and smart and knows exactly how to plan everything

[@kiyokoha]

@@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323 It was. She was part of the Newspaper Club. She hated that no one read it. While that doesn't explain why she's into blackmailing and panty shots it does show that before she was a more aggressive character. I kind of like the idea of making Info-Chan more of a friend character instead of like a puppeteer. Maybe she could betray you in the end, or maybe she could help you. I still think she can have a place in that sense but dialing her back would be my preferred idea

[@emberdragon4248]

@@kiyokoha Yeah, maybe in certain points your choice could determine the direction your relationship goes

[@kiyokoha]

@@emberdragon4248 That definitely sounds like a good idea

[@lousi3661]

I hope you could make a video about the faculty member rivals. The adult faculty member rivals are so uncomfortable. Both story and design wise, and its so weird cuz like there are so many solutions to this: 1. Change the nurse rival's design because yandev did say senpai will form a crush on her and not the opposite 2. Apply the same thing to the teacher rival and CHANGE HER DESIGN yandev literally said once that her favorite food is "young men's saliva" 3. Turn both of them into student/upperclassmen that are senpai's age, the nurse being a senior student who WANTS to be a nurse and the teacher into a tutor student 4. change the teacher rival into a teacher-in-training (she would be like 20/19) 5. SCRAP BOTH OF THEM??? The easiest solution??? 6. Make yandere chan misunderstand to think that they "want to confess to senpai" instead of blatantly having the teacher wanting to confess 7. Make them rivals by making the teacher rival pick on senpai (aka she hates him) and puts him unfairly in detention leading to him almost flunking (so ayano needs to win over the teacher rival or kill her) These are just some out of MANY MANY MANY substitutes.

[@callimara]

Hoooo boy, the rabbit hole just goes deeper! There's so much to talk about on the faculty rivals... I will definitely be making a video on them, along with the other rivals! I agree with your suggestions though, there's so many better alternatives if YandereDev just stopped trying so hard to be ecchi.

[@theletterq8362]

oooor make them male rivals since senpai is apparently bi

[@rown2689]

Hm, imagine if the substitute teacher wasn't a romantic rival at all. After what Ayano did to the previous 6 rivals, Taro gets pretty depressed and his grades start to drop. Mida, who's now a full-time teacher at the school, starts to notice and offers to tutor him during his free periods and outside of school. Instead of being a pedo creep, she acts like a motherly figure to Taro. Maybe he starts to develop a little crush on her, which isn't reciprocated. However, his crush and her spending so much time with him enough to piss Ayano off. It'd highlight how truly obsessed and deranged Ayano is, being willing to kill a woman who just wants to help one of her students. It'd add more "personality" to her, making her the type of main character you don't want to root for. Because as of now, she's at a sort of grey area in that department. You know she's a bad person, so maybe you don't necessarily like her, but her utter lack of personality makes it hard to form any strong feelings. Her obsession with Taro being so bad, that she's willing to sabotage anyone who forms a relationship with him (even if it's not romantic), would change that. The only thing missing is the whole deadline thing. Although, it wouldn't be hard to think of one.

[@flyguy8814]

Personally, as someone with a dark preference in games, I like the idea of keeping them as adult rivals and framing them as bad. It would make getting the best ending harder to figure out than “just don’t kill anyone”, since there’d be two rivals who you’d have to eliminate at any cost, but early in their weeks before they do enough damage to give a worse ending. It would really fuck up the “light hearted parody game” side of it, but hey, there’s no consistent mood as is and that’s not the part of the concept I like anyway.

[@lousi3661]

@@theletterq8362 ...how would turning a predator and an oversexualized nurse male make it better..?

[@fant0m763]

I believe that into chan could be useful, but she shouldn't be the main point for the plot. You shouldn't have another character carry the main characters plot, that just defeats the purpose of having your main character since your main character is supposed to be the one to lead the plot and figure out ways to over come obstacles that stand in the way of their goal on their own. Yea there can be characters that help out the mc, but they shouldn't do what info-chan is doing

[@callimara]

Totally agree with this. Either completely re-do Info-chan or just scrap her concept entirely, because a lot of Yandere Simulator's problematic features come from her. It would be a major change, but, for the best imo.

[@fant0m763]

@@callimara yes exactly, I was thinking that he could've made it to where info-chan was a last option for you to get information from, but not that big for the plot. She could still have her whole schtick of not being popular, but let's not give her a whole classroom and maybe make her an outcast who stays to themselves but has a good bit of info on people from monitoring other people. Also, bit of a fan of your vids and hope you have a good day/night!

[@NyssasOrbit]

God, I *wish* he would let Ayano talk to Senpai more. Walk in on moments between Senpai and the rivals to figure out what's going on, and either get rid of the rival or risk Senpai looking down on you for prying. That'd be cool. I think Info-chan could be a neat character strictly for the whole "mission-mode" thing, but I agree with you. Yandev is relying on her to be the core of the game way too much, and I think he should either axe her or pretend she's not there (which at that point, getting rid of her would be better). I wish he'd make the actual students more important so Ayano could use her own thoughts and knowledge, plus the gossip and info she gathers from talking to her peers, to figure out eliminations. If Yandev wants to keep Info-chan so badly, he can make her a popular gossip girl that Ayano turns to for quick information on certain topics she might not be able to easily pry out of other students (who may be close to the rival), which could also be why they would call her "Info-chan", since she would know a lot of things. This way she could still be in the game and be useful, but not this omnipotent character that puppeteers the whole game.

[@ymotechnopopfan]

Me too.

[@cranberrysauce4866]

Heres how I would re-write info-chan Instead of removing her from the game she should be more of a mean rumor spreading queen bee. Kind of like if Regina George and Gretchen Wieners merged together. Shes constantly stalking people or has others stalk people. She notices Ayanos attachment to Taro and because of her status also knows about Osanas feelings. Maybe Info-chan and Osana have some beef or something. Like a frenemies situation. Something so big couldve happened between them to the point where she wants her dead. She informs Ayano about Osanas crush and instead of manipulating her she notices Ayano has the same murder intent and lets Ayano know that shell help her defeat Osana no matter what. Maybe Info-chan has some sort of fake ID so she can get Ayano supplies that a high school student couldnt typically get. Now I do believe that for ALMOST the rest of the game we remove her entirely after beating Osana. Im going to change the rivals a bit so im first going to remove Mida, make Muja a caring girl that wants to be a nurse that sits in front of Taro in class who hes developed a crush on, and make his little sister into a detective whos investigating the disappearances of the missing students. Next Im going to make Megami Saeko the 9th rival and make info chan the final so I was thinking that maybe when its Megamis turn Info-chan aproaches Ayano once more and hints to her about the sakura tree rumor saying "you know Aishi-san I know a way theres a garuntee Yamada-senpai will accept your love". Ayano will get interested and Info-chan tells her that if she illuminates Megami for her shell tell her everything she knows about this "mysterious set-in-stone future" as Ayano will refer to it as. What is Info-chans motive for having us kill the mysterious student council president? Well its actually popularity. It sounds shallow but in my version of the game Info-chan is a phsychotic, attention craving, shallow, manipulator whos wing to do ANYTHING to be top dog. So instead of a mix between Gretchen Wieners and Regina George from mean girls now we realize shes like a mix between Heather Duke and Jason Dean from Heathers. Now a few days after the player gets rid of Megami. ( info- chan will be satisfied if she only gets her expelled as well. She just wants her gone) Ayano will aproach Info-chan and asl for the information on the Sakura tree rumor but then we learn that Info-chan actually had romantic feelings for...Ill say Amai Odayaka (If you used a none death way for this rival this ending wont happen) . Yes Im making her a lesbian just because I can :) and is mad about her death but needed more evidence to avenge her so having her kill Megami is like hitting two birds with on stone. She secretly filmed Ayano commiting the murder on Megami and threatens to show the police the up coming saturday morning meaning she has a week to both confess to Taro AND kill Info-chan before saturday. Im going to change the rumors confession day from friday to Tuesday. Monday night is when Ayano learns about the murder video. She has to confess the next day so she does. Taro says "yes" and this gives Ayano, both her end goal achieved and an obstacle. Taro will be clingy and always want to be around Ayano so shell have to kill Info-Chan in the few moments when shes both not in class, or around Taro. What happens if the player kills Amai but not Megami? Well you see info chan is clever so I believe she would have some back up that I havent come up with yet but I may update if I do. If you eliminate Info-Chan by saturday morning you beat the game boom some side notes: I would make people actually call Ayano, Ayano, Aishi-san, Aishi, Ayano-chan, etc instead of Yandere-chan (if Yan dev changed that please inform me I havent been caught up with the development for a while) make people refer to Taro as Yamada Senpai or if there 3rd years either Taro-kun or something like that or Yamada-san or again something like that. I want some cutscenes of Taros, along with the rival home life. Basically where Ayano is stalking them. For example we might see one of Taro and his sister Hanako who in my version is a first year in middle school interacting as they do. I came up with an ACTAUL backstory for Taro and Hanako so ill reply to my comment with that. Aside from that actual model wise Id shrink all the chests of the characters with "deformed giant titty syndrome" as I like to call it. Thats it thanks for reading if you made it this far. You are very pog. tell me what you think

[@cranberrysauce4866]

For Hanako and Taro's backstory I was thinking maybe at a young age something happened to there parents which gave there uncle custody of them. There uncle and them live in a small apartment and there uncle is never home. Hes always out drinking and doesnt work. The twos parents where incredibly wealthy which the uncle saved just enough money to barely pay the bills and buy groceries until Taro graduated. There uncle spends the rest on alcohol and and getting girl to have s3x with him. After he graduates hell have to take Hanako in to support her which wont give him a chance to go to college for a while. Hanako and Osana are the only good relationships hes ever had so when him and Ayano get together thats why hes so clingy. Taro has to work 3 jobs in order to save up for a small apartment after school and to buy clothes, toilet paper, and pay for him and Hanakos schooling. Hes worried he wont be able to provide for his sister.

[@xivering]

Your so good at making backstories

[@cranberrysauce4866]

@@xivering oh really?tysm ❤️

[@StarlightMoss]

This comment also adds to the redraw of Taro that this creator made. She says he looks messy and lacks direction, which is why he joins a bunch of clubs, but ultimately he doesn’t settle. It makes sense that he doesn’t have a lot of dedication to a hobby if he’s working all day. Overall this would be an excellent addition to yandere simulator.

[@cranberrysauce4866]

@@StarlightMoss ooh I didn't think of that🤪

[@Angelofthursday99]

I personally think it'd make a lot more sense that the person we'd get tutorial schemes from (involving murder) would be Ayano's own mother Ryoba. Ryoba who went to Akademi High as a student, and successfully murdered at least one (confirmed) person on the premises and got away with. Along with the fact that there is a video where Ryoba teaches Ayano how to clean up blood using chemicals so it can't be found with luminal, so we know she already canonically gives her pointers on murder. So you'd think the one giving out _murder advice_ would be the known, _successful_ murderer, and not a random high school student.

[@agatha6999]

This is a good idea! It also gives Ayano agency as well since Ryoba won't be helping all the time since she is still tracking down the journalist so her guidance could be time-restricted or even day restricted making so that you do have to come up with your own schemes as well as having some help so you arent a lost duck but still grow and what better person to help Ayano grow then her own mother

[@niqchus]

HONESTLY,I have never thought about Info-chan being a massive disadvange, but more i think about it. it really seems like infochan is the reason the "game" is .. quite ass tbh. And i say as a person, who likes yanderes as an idea/character concept. hell even the character on my profile pic is a yandere. (Though i made him about 10 years ago.)

[@callimara]

Yandere Simulator definitely has a lot of flaws, and I think it's about time we stop sleeping on Info-chan as one of them!

[@Truly_Sithari]

I like kamideres

[@jesusisafly8689]

HIM?

[@niqchus]

@@jesusisafly8689 yeah :D

[@OnnaBlade]

I like bakadere

[@AlexDayz]

Absolutely agree. While Info-Chan never explicitly ask you to kill Osana it is very highly implied she wants her dead or at least hurt when it should be up to the player to decide how to deal with her. I absolutely love the journal idea you came up with and could would love to see that instead of a step by step tutorial. That along with the “tutorial week” YanDev has proposed could completely get rid of Info-chat except for maybe a few items and even just make it available in the town (He put so much emphasis on the town and it is barely utilized). I had some of my own. I know YanDev said the “time table” was a necessary thing for the game mechanics but still seems a bit too convenient imo. Perhaps you could make it like the rivals journal where they write down all the things they’re going to do for the day making it so you just have to steal it. To make it more unique each rival might organize their time table different or might exclude some events making it more difficult as the story progresses. Another idea was with the unkilled rivals. Instead of just becoming another witness like every other student they could be valuable assets and give certain perks. For example Osana could let you know more about Senpais childhood and allow you to give hints to Senpai that someone likes him, Amai could allow you to distract multiple students at a time with her food, Kizana could allow you to learn the “moods” thing you do in the mirror (and actually give them a use. I completely forgot about those tbh), and so on

[@callimara]

Ooooh I really like this idea!!! I definitely think the rivals also having journals that you could steal would be a really good way to figure out their schedule and weaknesses so the players can figure out the best elimination method, and the idea were spared rivals gives you perks is GENIUS. I think it would really give players a reason not to go with the genocide route.

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

I really like this idea! Maybe club days are also listed and those are the days you can join? or maybe Ayano has to pick a club at the get go so in case someone from the club dies,the club can keep running due to her being counted as a 4th member but if you decide to leave the club thats when it disbands for real. and I would love that like persona, you can increase traits or learn special skills when doing the activities or be able to be excused from class if say a club field trip comes up or rehearsals for the drama club. The perks yan sim already has can still be used but like i said, partaking in the club will increase the perk or gain new perks.

[@caraashji]

I followed the development for the first few years before all of the strange things started happening. I'm so glad I just forgot about it one day lmaoooo

[@NameName-yj7lp]

I remember the yan phase- luckily magical girls and anime’s came in to fill that gap

[@spitefuleternity]

lmao same. the development took so long that I got distracted by multiple fandoms and haven't heard about it until 2020.

[@scarxnnivs]

I feel like YS has the same problem as MLB, amazing ideas but produced by shitty people, great characters being pushed to the back, main characters being more blank than water (Adrien is becoming more of a side character tbh) just, if they only had some good people managing them and execute the story well, man they could be really amazing

[@raindress]

@charliebuchinsky3677 miraculous ladybug

[@queenbee3561]

@charliebuchinsky3677 Miraculous Ladybug

[@nalcarya]

Ya know what the issue with your (absolutely valid and well thought out) suggestion is? It would take a lot more work scripting/programming wise and since we all know how good yandev is at getting work done... well I guess he chooses the "low hanging fruit" not only in how he prioritises tasks but also in how he does his gamedesign. 🤡

[@callimara]

Tbh, this is so true. I genuinely believe the game is the way it is because of YandereDev's method for developing it.

[@Angel-eg4ed]

If info chan gets removed, there COULD be another way of getting info about other students and stuff. The bullies If Ayano has a high reputation and befriends all the bully girls, she could join their group! In the game, after classes, the bullies go to the bathroom to gossip about the different students and stuff. What if Ayano (after joining the group) could go there too and gain info about students or even ask the girls to investigate and/or spread rumors about other students and rivals? She could ask the bullies to spy on Osana or talk with her and ask her about different things. Or, they could all talk to other students and spread rumors about her!

[@youngbounty1394]

You made some good points about Info Chan and she really doesn’t need to exist. I think Yandere Dev needs to do to Info what he did to Kokona: have her just be a regular student or a tutorial girl that becomes a normal student. I also like the idea of having one week of prep work, though I think having just one week of it before the first rival is enough, since any investigation for the other rivals shouldn’t take anymore than 3 days. The first week can just be for the player to get to know the game mechanics and get the game rolling. Once the player is familiar with the game, they won’t need an extra week to prepare anymore. I do disagree with Yan-Chan having time with Sempai, since Yandere Dev’s idea from the start is for her and Sempai to not interact with a motivation for why that makes sense. Even if they hardly get any interaction, it isn’t to say Sempai can’t be interesting or that it can’t ruin the story. I just think it needs to be executed differently. Like maybe have Yan-Chan interact with Sempai once and that should be enough to give the reason and motivation for why she has to avoid him. Also, even if they’re not personally interacting, it’s not to say they can’t interact in other ways. Yandere Dev has also given Yan-Chan an option to Discord and talks with another person. We don’t know who the person is, but I think it should be Sempai. It can give a Phantom of the Opera vibe where neither person interacts, but are still drawn to each other. Even The Phantom only interacted with Christine twice: first to establish his motivation for pursuing her and second to establish the ending conflict of Christine confronting the Phantom. Just because two characters only get two times of interaction, which is what Yandere Dev has established in his game: first being their first meet and second being the cherry blossom at the end of the game, that doesn’t mean it can’t make a good romance or tragic/horror romantic story. In this case, Yandere Dev just needs good execution and, if you didn’t know they did have two official interactions, that is why it wasn’t executed right. The player would not know, unless they kept up with the lore. Another thing to bring up is 70’s mode, which did have a better version of Info Chan. She was a character with a name, very well known and popular in the school, and her information was from the gossip from everyone. She knew everything about everyone and established a friendship with your character: That’s why her information and giving it out made sense. I think Yandere Dev needs to use that kind of character with Info Chan. She can be the Queen Bee of the popular girls, thus why she’d know everything about the school, and have an established friendship with Yan-Chan. Though, I do think that’s all she is there for: to give needed information. Everything else is Yan-Chan’s choice and her missions are her own doing. The Info Chan in 70’s mode was never as fully controlling over the character as the character herself. In fact, many times, the character had to gain information from other characters like Tsumugi and a former rival she befriended. That’s all I’ve got. I thought I’d give my own thoughts, since I do keep up with Yandere Dev’s videos. I’m neutral on this one, but I do want to see improvement.

[@phirerising]

Just letting you know the correct spelling is Senpai, even though it's pronounced with an M sound.

[@youngbounty1394]

@@phirerising RIP me and my laziness to fix this long ass comment x_x

[@Pokepants]

I just wanna take note because I'm just realizing that in every video of "Redesigning the characters and re imagining the story of Yandere Simulator" videos, Info-Chan is not in a single one of these videos. And Obviously that's because of how she doesn't have any real role and also just because she's not important except as a tutorial guide. But honestly I don't think we need a tutorial anymore. The game has been out so long everyone knows how to play, and what the goal is like it's imprinted in their memories.

[@Pokepants]

@Curly-n-Girly Ugh I know, that man is beyond annoying. Just get some help bro, we all see that you need it.

[@elizabeththomson4526]

Didn't yandev add an anime that included an elimination method? Wouldn't it be better if Ayano had a collection of different animes and mangas to watch and read which give her ideas for eliminations. And different episodes of the show and volumes of manga can be used on different rivals. For example: If in the first week Ayano watches a romance anime and decides to matchmake Osana with someone. The next rival along Ayano could watch a different episode or different romance all together which results in him deciding to matchmake this one as well but this time in a completely different way. Like, Osana's matchmaking part could involve her stalking her and helping Osana's love interest get together with her using the information she gathers. The second rival could include, say joining the same club or friend group of the and getting to know them while also getting close to the love interest and setting the two up. This way you can use the same general elimination method but it stays fresh and interesting. It also leads into the idea that Ayano is a teenage girl since she actually has interests. It also carries an underlying down side that if Ayano is changing clubs and friend groups to much she could earn a bad reputation as someone who ditches their friends after a week for someone else only to drop them as well. As well as being known for dropping clubs too often, making people not want to let her join the club.

[@callimara]

I like this idea! Honestly, there's so many routes to explore when it comes to discovering elimination methods and it's a waste to just have it all be bought off Info-chan. I also like the idea that changing clubs and friend groups too much would hurt your reputation because... Well, obvious reasons lol

[@elizabeththomson4526]

The murder aspect could also be explored this way. Because just think, Ayano could just use complete murder plans from a single TV show which also carries the threat that people will catch on to the fact that they're all being taken from a TV show and then the school could take measures to stop that. Say she makes a habit if taking all of her murder plans from a single TV show which results in a particularly nerdy student catching on and alerting the faculty and telling them how the next murder shall play out so the school can take measures to stop it. This would discourage players from continuously using the same elimination method over and over again, making sure that they use the different options. It would also a lot of replay-ability to the game as there would be multiple little story lines surrounding each elimination method. Also, I think that it would be fun to have secret elimination methods that Ayano can unlock by borrowing books and dvds from classmates after befriending them or finding them around the school. Or even other things. Like if Ayano joins the drama club and stays in it for a while, it could unlock a specific elimination method for Kizana, which would reward the player for their patience by staying in the Drama club. Same goes for other clubs. Another idea being that Ayano should be able to access information about specific rivals before their actual week. Say, if Ayano joins the Cooking club during Osana's week, she can learn about Amai before she even shows up which could give her information. This would mitigate some of the rushing that would happen during each rival's weeks since the player would already have a preconceived idea of what the rival shall be about instead of having a rival thrown at us.

[@shark_lover_BG19]

and this can make the manga volums in her room not just for decoration and points (the ones you buy things from info chan with) but for actual game play... genius!!!

[@shark_lover_BG19]

@@elizabeththomson4526 yeah or maybe she learns this not by direcly joining but like a day (for each club) to '"deside" wich club she wants to join and asks about the leaders while she is going in the clubs (sorry if its messy english is not my first language and i dont really know how to word it T^T )

[@Hellh0und_]

I love the story line and all of yours ideas! I would love to see that plus a mode just for playing around! Killing is the most fun part for a lot of people and so they can decide weather to play the story or just "practice" killing or play around with the easter egg mods

[@callimara]

Thank you! I definitely think a killing spree mode would be a more welcome addition than DDR lol

[@dodachka]

to be honest i think the game failed in the concept a LOT, my biggest point being why rivals love taro. like, he is so ordinary even info-chan noted it in the early builds. i understand osana and taro's sister, osana is his childhood friend and has a lot of time developing feelings for taro. buuuuuut..... the nurse and the overly sexualized teacher? what the hell. not talking about them being wet fantazies about grown adult female teachers, it's very sketchy. maybe taro himself shows some kind of affection to them instead only because he's a horny teenager, idk, maybe that's the point. but god, MEGAMI. a powerful goddess (literally) trying to protect taro? for what reason? if you want to protect ALL students from crucial murders, maybe you should protect ALL of them, not the only one ordinry boy? i also have questions for sports girl and delinquent girl. (lol i only noticed their names are so forgettable). nontheless good vid

[@dodachka]

also one thing i wanted to add: does yandere dev implemet some kind of soulmate thing into his game, that ayano just CRUSHED into taro in school hall and fell in love with him? geez, he probably doesnt even know your name, you didnt even talk like normal human beings. has she never met any men in her life instead of her father?

[@dodachka]

aaand i've got a concept while i was writing: maybe NOT get rid of info-chan, but make her a helping option, when you're stuck with collecting information on rivals, or you don't have any elimination metods, info-chan CAN help you, but with a BIG amount of money. you dont just shot someone s underwear, you work on every job you could get to get even a hint from info-chan, because she knows collecting info might be dangerous and threatening for her life. and the price might be different for each rival, depending on their routine, social interactions etc., megami being the highest price.

[@mikespiegel_]

17:01: You are right on the spot for the biggest fail of the whole game, not building a relationship with senpai. Without it, the confession just seems to come out of nowhere and there is no reason why senpai would accept it.

[@vahilus]

I was sceptical that yandere simulator could even be fixed at this point but then you started talking about the journal mechanic and I, someone who is admittedly not the biggest gamer, immediately wanted to play it;;;; it's brilliant

[@whatthehell760]

same

[@eagletscosplaycloset3793]

Satire isn’t just doing a thing. It’s doing a thing that points out the absurdity or hilarity of that thing. Satire would be making Senpai a blank slate and then having a rival say, “I just love how bland he is!” or something like that.

[@sobosoup]

It would have been so much better if A: info Chan is the real villain B: the faculty rivals were students C:if info chan actually lied about some rivals confessing D: if the good and bad endings were somewhat affected by if you kill innocent people or not(they’re all innocent but I mean if they aren’t involved). E: if you’re given a chance to kill or spare info Chan at the end Kill? Bad ending (depending on earlier choices) Save? Good ending (again going back to earlier choices) If info Chan actually lied at the beginning it would plant a seed inside the players head like “hey is this girl really on my side?”. She does it towards the end and the player really doesn’t trust info Chan. This would have been so much better! An actual game with consequences.

[@z2yn]

What would be more interesting would be if Info-Chan basically noticed that the main character is dangerous and is tracking her in order to catch her, therefore keeping up a certain difficulty If the player does something illegal, Info-Chan will try to find proof and then expose the player

[@SaiScribbles]

The main problem with the story is how he's even trying to write one. I thought for the longest time that the game was a hilarious parody of anime tropes and that all the character names and stuff sounding like a 15 year old American writing their own anime was a joke. And then I realized he was serious.

[@vicsterrs]

the whole getting rid of info-chan thing has actually been living in in the back of my head for a while now, so seeing this video was a very pleasant surprise :D here are a few of my ideas that i have thought about i think that ayano could be sort of a journalist? being known for going around and asking people for information (which could also be why people don't want to give you information without gaining their trust first because you are so nosy). she has a small handbag on her that contains a journal involving basic student info, who the student is, club, class and then something they are known for in the school, ayano has been in the school for a long time as well so it would make sense if she knew all of that. my version of schemes is very similiar to what you suggested :D i feel like ayano could go around the school looking for things to muder osana so whenever she sees something, she can note the use for them in her journal. for example if you are in the girls bathroom and see the mop, bucket and bleach, ayano notes it down in her journal that it can be used to clean blood from corpses. it's a lot more interactive and can add to the difficulty that alex so desparately wants to add more of. the drops. most of them are there to make gameplay easier (like sedative, poison and a lockpic), some could be accessed from the (school) store and some could be from getting students to do favours for you. for example the guy in the sewing room could make you a new clean uniform. the services can be removed entirely because again, they are there to make gameplay easier and more fast.

[@whatthehell760]

yess

[@davidm0355]

In all honesty, i think the way to make the player care about senpai, is to completly rewrite senpai, because senpai is the most boring character in the yandere simulator's cast. All we know about him is he has a sister, he likes reading, hearing classical music, doing origami, caligraphy and caring bonsai trees, in conclusion he has the same hobbies as an 80 years old Japanese man. I don't mean that a person that has these same hobbies, is a boring person, because i think that some of these hobbies are great too, just there is no reason for Ayano, a 18 years old girl, who at her age wants to have fun, and other 8 girls to have a crush on this guy. He also has no personalit- OH, right, he has a strong sense of justice, which only applies on if you decide to kill someone in front of him with a mask on, because the moment his childhood friend gets explelled from school, he doesn't question at all why Osana was expelled, and when Ayano kills someone in front of him whitout the mask, or when he found a body he becomes a whiny b***h. To be fair, the reason why senpai is so boring is because is a copy and paste version of Amano Yukitero from Mirai Niki/Future Dairy, from which Yandere Dev took inspiration. All we knew is that his parents are divorced and he likes play darts..., that's all, so we don't know why Yuno is so obsessed about him in the first place even here. This is also the reason why everyone ship Ayano with Budo: because he has more personality, he is more interesting, and he's also hotter than Senpai. By the way, good video and ideas❤

[@callimara]

I totally agree with this. Senpai is definitely high on my priority list to revamp just because he's literally the backbone of the game and yet YandereDev seems to put the least effort into him.

[@pastelesque]

We already know Info-Chan’s backstory though. What’s supposed to be revealed into the game is that Info-Chan is the daughter of the detective who’s life was ruined by ayano’s mother. She’s using Ayano by giving her these girls she can kill so she can put her in jail and ruin her life. That’s why info-chan gets disappointed or surprised when you eliminate rivals non-violently. Ayano is allowed to go to school because the school accused her mom if the same thing but she was found “innocent” and its reputation was ruined. They can’t just stop ayano from going to school because it would have the same drawbacks. Honestly most of your criticism is answered by the 1980’s mode backstory. I hate the developer just as much as you do. And I treat the game separately from the creator. I too think the game needs fixing but this video is going to result in very negative feedback since it’s pretty misinformed. You’re not supposed to like ayano, or like killing people, or blackmailing and kidnapping others. That’s just the whole point of the game. If you don’t like that, you don’t like yandere simulator in general. Its a yandere game so most of your criticism isn’t making sense. But I do agree with the rest of this video! Ayano is super bland and should be a better yandere! And she should be getitng more involved. Along with how she should be more interactive and investigative to discovering her rival! But I don’t think getting rid of infochan is the answer, she should still be there for the 1980s lore aspect but not as involved!

[@Allqin]

I so agree and disagree but yandere simulator doesn't represent how yanderes act because ayano can't walk around senpai while yanderes are ment to act cute infront of there crush and kill there rivals at night

[@Treegona]

That doesn't make Info-chan less terrible of a person, nor does it make her less of an issue from a character perspective. Also: Info-chan's murderous plots having an in-universe (watsonian) justification doesn't change the (doylist) issues raised by this video. Why does Info-chan have to be the one to set Ayano on the path to murder? She's supposed to be a yandere, violence should come naturally to her.

[@pastelesque]

@@Treegona I wasn’t advocating for info chan and read my last point 😭

[@pastelesque]

@@Allqin yeah I said the same thing, they’re supposed to interact with their crushes

[@kemiandthemachine]

(Ooof I wrote an actual novel so there's a tl;dr at the end if you don't wanna read my whole comment lmao. Sorry about that, I tend to ramble 😅) I don't think Info-chan's backstory being known or linked to the 1980s mode really makes her existence any less of a disservice to the game. If anything, the fact that you think her only good reason for staying is for a, as of yet hypothetical, game mode kinda proves how unneeded she is in the game right now. Her character doesn't even really work with her lore, since she's basically a criminal too, being a willing accomplice to murder, and the mastermind of a mini-criminal empire she has in school. If she were an obstacle to Ayano, kinda in the vein of the photography club when the atmosphere gets low, it would be more in line with her lore. Hell, even keeping her as a character that can give you info like schedules for classes and clubs, basic info on characters, not knowing she's helping you murder people could make for a cool concept. Having the player have to keep a low profile even around their info broker would add to the tension. Imagine her getting suspicious of you and being less and less likely to help you, even doing a mini secret investigation on you if you're too sloppy with the killings. It could be a good way to incentivize players to be careful since she's not only valuable to you but dangerous if she decides to go against you. That way she fits in with her lore AND doesn't take away your agency while adding depth to the gameplay. Oof, this makes me realize just how much of a wasted potential this character actually is... As for the whole not supposed to like Ayano or killing people, I think that's kind of a problem if you're playing a yandere simulator. Back in its early days, when there was no lore, no real story, the whole appeal of the game was murdering girls who wanted to get with your love interest, and for all intents and purposes, that's still the case. Like calli said, yanderes are supposed to be at the very least sympathetic or fun, not blameless. I should like Ayano even if I think she's a crazy psycho. I should like her enough to consider helping her murder people to get her senpai, or to want to keep her on the right path while getting her senpai. Why should I help the main character get anything if I don't like or care about them? In my opinion, her criticism is perfectly valid in that sense. What's the point of a yandere game if being a yandere in it is bad? If that really was the point of the game, then the yandere aspect should be a bad end, and the murdering and kidnapping only available if the player keeps making decisions that bring the character to that ending, not something that is incentivized by the gameplay on day one, with even a tutorial at the beginning. Tl;dr Info-chan's lore doesn't invalidate calli's points and actually doesn't fit her character that well. She should've been either a threat or an unknowing accomplice that becomes a threat if she realizes the player is a murderer. The point of the game shouldn't be to hate Ayano and murdering people, since we're playing AS her, it should be to want to help Ayano get her senpai, whether we want to do a pacifist run or a genocide run.

[@HydraSango]

i actually have my own concept for info chan. She runs a gossip blog and needs ayanos help to find information/gossip . she doesnt have a whole room to herself (the room she is in in game is still used for the newspaper club like in the 1980s mode) shes a regular student who attends classes and is actually in said newspaper club, she doesnt give ayano information, but can provide a small amount of gossip that isnt nearly as much as she provides as its mostly rumors shes heard around the school from just walking around and it depends on the student. though she can still provide items, more planning would be needed, you would have to ask her for said item (out of a notably smaller selection) ahead of time and schedule a pickup time later where she will give you the item before or after school depending on what you schedule she would either ask for real money or gossip for her blog as currency. id prefer that shes more of an ally than the one pulling the strings. she helps you but has no idea what you’re doing unless she herself finds out or if someone else witnesses a crime and gossips about it. my concept may need a lil work and some tweaking though its just stuff ive come up with when figuring out my own interpretation of this messed up game aha- :)

[@errorsans8684]

What if Info-Chan was secretly using Ayano as a tool for her friend. Info-Chan could manipulate Ayano to killing rivals. One of the rivals could be Info-Chan's friend and using the way Ayano killed her previous rivals Info-Chan could then sabatoge Ayano and get Ayano expelled by making her do suspicious things that is unessicary to "kill" her rival and since Info-Chan knows what Ayano is doing, Info-Chan could tell the guidence consular what Ayano is doing and get Ayano expelled if the player falls for what Info-Chan's trap. Info-Chan could have manipulated Ayano to killing rivals for her friend and when all the other rivals are killed and Ayano has no more use for Info-Chan to help her friend, Info-Chan back stabs Ayano to help her friend. If you fall for it and get expelled by Info-Chan then there could be a cutscene showing what Info-Chan really wanted and show Info-Chan's friend getting together with Senpai.

[@luddyaeterna]

"Info-chan? More like Exposition-chan!" *Advert cuts to applause* That was perfect.

[@denkunn]

I thought of something once but I never got to explore until I saw this video: Having a secret rival, but not just any random girl that crosses his path, more of a boy who's in love with Senpai. Based on the Epic Rap Battles of Academy that was posted like a long time ago, I thought... why can't Budo be a secret rival? So, I thought about a scenario where they could talk to each other, in which Budo asks Taro to join the Martial Arts Club in the first week. Taro refuses saying he doesn't think he's good for that, so Budo, instead of pressuring him, speaks to him about his interests and if he's even interested in any club. If Osana is dead, Taro would not only feel depressed, but he'll go to other places to try and distract himself. Budo sees that Taro isn't there so he looks for him and, once he find him, he tries to help him. If Osana isn't dead but Taro refused her confession, maybe Taro would feel like he needs to distract himself, so he goes to see Budo because he would be his only friend. Taro stays near him while Budo is training the other students and (maybe) they talk from time to time. or basically: Senpai and Budo become close friends to the point Budo actually falls in love with him, and since Info-chan will be in the game, she doesn't know about it and it's up to Ayano to find out about it. but that's just a little thought. I know it will never happen.

[@rosillante1994]

Good video! Solid concepts and I agree a lot of these would be very interesting, looking forward to those redesigns c: but I wanted to touch on something... Here's some fun facts about Info-chan's backstory! I've been wanting to talk about this for a while because this stuff lives rent free in my head: 1. About Info-chan's room I imagine you haven't listened to/read the lore tapes (and I don't blame you), but you're correct in that info-chan's existence implies a lot of corruption within the school, the short version is that the headmaster made a hobby of stalking the students through the security tapes, and info-chan blackmailed him with those to get treated as a "special needs student with extreme agoraphobia". 2. About Info-chan's family The actually fun fact is that if you do listen to the tapes and put together the plots, the story lines lead to Info-chan being the cousin of the last rival and granddaughter of Mr. Saikou the owner of the school, as well as daughter to a detective whose life was ruined by Ayano's mom. On top of that, the mom died when she was born (because of course she did) and her dad was abusive and negligent because of his life having spiraled out of control, making Info-chan into a deeply disturbed person (think little children killing animals kind of thing). 3. About Info-chan's connection to the game The obvious plot is that she's seeking revenge on Ayano's family for her dad's suffering. If she were to also be a Saikou, she probably would be wanting to kill the last rival as well as ruin the school using Ayano as a blunt weapon. This would be interesting if YanDev hadn't dismissed Info-chan's mom as non-important, breaking the connection the tapes make to the Saikou family and destroying the only interesting thing about the whole lore: that it all lead to Info-chan's life being ruined and her taking everyone down with her. Unironically I think if used right Info-chan would make a better yandere than Ayano.

[@callimara]

Lol, petition to replace Ayano with Info-chan!

[@burnthehousedown]

@@callimara Signed!

[@romuluspascual4837]

this isn't a bad idea but if yandere dev likes this then we'll add another century to our wait for yandere sim to be finished so I say don't remove her

[@callimara]

Lol, this is probably true

[@leonia88]

LMAO FR

[@cupidsbow4355]

Honestly, at this point, i feel like he's just gonna get tired of completing the game (not like he was gonna finish anytime soon anyways..) and leave everyone with this trash uncompleted game. or he's just gonna put the rivals into the game quickly, then quit. which isn't too good either, since the rivals aren't the only thing that should be put in the game. Its gonna he lousy and messily done.

[@wolfkitty42]

I mean that’s already what we’re getting...

[@romuluspascual4837]

@@wolfkitty42 why must you make me read my old cringy comment

[@ravengreenwold3258]

Honestly there was a much older concept that info chan was helping yandere chan because she was bullied and that makes more sense in some aspects? It gives info-chan some important aspects? Each rival is someone she saw as wronging her. She wants the people yandere chan is after to suffer and is willing to use someone she knows could be dangerous to do it. She could also be a hikkomori and then yandere chan can ask her for info while bringing school work to her home. It could also be she knows so much about the students because she used to be friends with some of the people? Also a lot of people are rebuttal-ing your points with the tapes.... but the tapes shouldnt tell the only story? First time players have no knowledge of the tapes and theres no hints to their existence. Making it revenge gives possible story a lot better. It makes possible for yandere-chan to essentially choose to betray info chan by choosing the peaceful route.

[@ZarinaRoseYT]

I love that idea but a little thing with Info-Chan If you ask me she could be kept in. but She is a everyday school girl pretty much (So she doesn't get her own room has great grades though so she normally helps people with studying) She is friends with Ayano. The reason they are friends is that both of them don't fit in. Info-Chan never tells what she finds out when studying with someone UNLESS someone does a task for her. (Like getting something from someone or getting her notebook she left in class or something) So Ayano would still find everything out herself unless she is to late than she might be able to ask Info-Chan about it and as the rivals get harder Info-Chan most likely wouldn't know anything about them or know very little (Because they get good grades or they get other people to help them) Leading for Info-Chan in the end not being used as much (Or not being used at all) If that makes sense? (I feel like it doesn't sorry about that) Also thank you to anyone that took their time to read this. Also sorry for the bad grammar

[@caraashji]

I feel like info Chan should only give certain things like maybe some tips and rumours that pop up as text messages just to help the player. I don't think she should control anything. It's almost as if ayano is info chan's toy. Ayano should be planning these things herself. In the bedroom in the game there should be more things like notes and pages of plans on the walls. She's meant to be crazy and looking for every possible way to get the guy. There should be more objects that give clues and when you pick up something maybe info Chan could pop up a text of the backstory of the object or something. Ayano should use these small bits of information to be able to make up all her plans. I don't think there should be panty shots but it could be for like one exclusive mission or something to get a girl eliminated and humiliated. But it shouldn't be in the entire game. The camera should be used whilst stalking. The whole first week should be stalking and finding clues and talking to students about any rumours they heard about the rivals. Then the player can learn of these things with the pop up objective for each rival. I think each rival should be one at a time. Like one week for the first one then another for the next. Maybe even more than one week. But yeah I think that everything you said on that would be really good. There are so many possibilities for this game and it's so disappointing that it's just left at it's boring bland killing robot simulator

[@callimara]

Totally agree with this. Info-chan shouldn't be as big a part of the game as she is.

[@caraashji]

@Jack yeah that would be so cool, like you actually have to befriend her and gain her trust

[@Ozgur-op3zs]

I just found this video, but I had more ideas for your journal concept. The journal could both act as... - well, a journal - and feature the menu of the game. In the papers: pictures and polaroids of people taped (Senpai's popping up more frequently) with notes next to them. A good addition would be that as you explore the school and the students more, as you interact more and find rare game features/easter eggs/interactions, you get more journal entries. These journal entries are Yan-chan's thoughts, and not just exposition dumps. She makes assumptions at times; messes up, maybe writes over previous writing, etc. I think the text in the journal would help characterise her further. What does she photograph first, the faces or the interactions? What is her focus when it comes to other people? It'd be interesting, in my opinion. Also a sidenote, I notice the inner voice lines you wrote for Yan-chan were mere examples, but I believe only subtly hinting at it would be better as it gives the player a challenge. Not one that's annoying, either. As you get closer, Yan-chan continues her comment with more lines. That's all i've got, though. Great video! I love your ideas.

[@gigithegob9332]

My issue with Yanderesim right now, is that the rivals are okay people. If they were genuinely bad people (like if osana is a physically and mentally abusive towards senpai) and we learned this organically, the player could justify murdering them besides just wanting to, like the Ayano is genuinely doing bad things but if the rivals are worse then Ayano, we would actually want to murder them. That's my take personally :)

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

She predicted the future (a journal thing ended up in 1980s mode bc modern phones werent a thing. It should be a feature in the main game and 1980s mode is useless anyway)

[@Ender11037]

I loved YanSim, but when I graduated both elementary and high school and almost college before the game came out... And then learned of his EvaXephon persona... But I did have my own fanfiction about it, a detective novel.

[@ytkat2431]

Back when I was really into the game I loved the idea of Kokona being stuck in a time loop and stopping the murders of the rivals. I had a whole notebook written out of Ayano’s thoughts and plans

[@Meepthegeek]

I’d love to see a stealth minigame at the end of day sequence where we get an opportunity to either collect an item to put Ayano’s shrine for Taro, get new information about Taro, or an interaction between Ayano and Taro. One of my pet peeves about the game is that Taro is put on the back burner, I don’t expect it to be like an otome game but it’d be nice to see more of the games main premise of being an obsessive stalker. Just seeing a line of text saying that “Ayano stalks Senpai home” isn’t doing much for me.

[@yourneighbourhoodbean]

i think info-chan is more of a mission mode type character maybe... since apparently mission mode is an alternate universe where ayano is a hitman or something. i can't remember how it is but i think that in mission mode senpai might not be there, and if he is then you almost definitely can't kill him. i think it would be a good addition to be able to kill senpai since you would think that in mission mode ayano doesn't have any feeling towards him. but yeah, i think info-chan might fit better in mission mode. edit: after reading the lore of nemesis-chan, the thing with senpai wouldn't be possible since he's already dead...

[@tianalambert5357]

I love this! You're so clear and percise. Keep up the good work!!

[@callimara]

I'm so glad to hear it! I'm trying not to be too hard on myself when it comes to the audio quality XD

[@Kierenly]

Maybe when the game starts and Info-Chan offers her help, Ayano can have an option to decline her offer and block her. Then, she can do things herself, but for that to work, she needs to have access to the items Info-Chan offers without her assistance. This was honestly a great idea though!

[@cherrium1719]

Also, lovely artwork! It's really good!

[@callimara]

Thank you so much!

[@apersonwhoexists747]

I really liked your idea of Ayano having some sort of journal, where her objectives are displayed and so on, and it gave me an idea. Instead of the mechanic where you take a picture of a student, and then their information is automatically given to you, you have to first talk to a student to get their profile added into your journal. Their information wouldn’t be included at first though, and you’d have to get it by socializing or stalking them. It would help give the player more to do other than rival stuff, and would make the side characters feel less like props or tools. You could even get more information about the characters as you develop your friendship with them, cuz I think the current method with the single task isn’t great.

[@gabgriffin220]

I think personally yandere sim can work with info Chan if she wasn't a god. Like make her student secretary, then she has a reason to be able to know a decent amount of information about people. And then you know you can actually see her walking around school and being a normal student.

[@CC-tu9xs]

You should review the 1980's mode. It surprisingly good. The backstory makes no sense still but the removal of info-chan really helped the plot. Senpai had a bit more personality and the rivals were somewhat interesting. Ryoba had the 'her own textbox thoughts' and it was a bit more interactive and some parts required social interaction. The trial part at the end of the game is also nice, as it requires you to not just murder but actually try to think before what you're doing. The game mode also took the journaling idea and made it work. I say Yan-dev should've just made the 1980's mode the actual game. It makes more sense, has a better plot, better gameplay and has a good tutorial, It also has a better protagonist. Ryoba is smart, resourceful, cunning and a great liar. although the characters have little to none backstory, the 1980's mode is definately something worth reviewing.

[@xenosasyndrome]

I like your idea! It makes the game more interactive and makes it have even more plot advancing mechanisms, I'd like to add some suggestions too, the game would benefit from some visual novel type interactions between ayano and senpai with multiple different endings to help advance their relationship, it could be implemented also to the rivals as a mechanic for different elimination methods, like to build a friendship with them to get to know them better so we could use the information we gathered to advance with the game!

[@alieneko_nyo]

The shit still going I see...

[@callimara]

The rollercoaster ride never stops

[@itsthee_saltywatermelon]

I think I like to think, (ig you could see it as a head canon-) is that Info-chan is wheelchair bound (and maybe some other things) That way that could ve a reason she stays in her special room 24 7 and things like that. I just think it's also a cool idea and fun to think abt.

[@TotalleeLee]

You got me excited for a game that doesn’t exist

[@shuu_39]

In my opinion, Info-chan could probably be an in-school advisor for the students. She has private information when she sees and listen to the students. Yandere can ask for information for an extremely expensive price, which should be an option if the player is too lazy to stalk their rivals

[@bizzybeee]

It would also be fun if info Chan was replaced with a friend or girl who uses yandere chans obsession of senpai by getting her to kill the "opponets" where in the end we find out the friend was an antagonist like character all along who liked senpai but didn't want to get her hands dirty so they used yandere Chan to do it instead.

[@OfficialLuni]

I love your ideas, and the journal feature sounds amazing! Also, I had an idea for a feature in the game involving Taro/senpai. Imagine being an average guy, and whenever you get close to someone, anyone, they end up dead in a week. What if the police started suspecting Taro, since he was a common link to the girls, and he hung out with them before they died? I dont know about you, but if I was suspected of murdering people, Id immediately try to prove my innocence. Taro would investigate to find out why everyone he knows is dropping dead like flies, and Ayano might help him prove his innocence because she obviously knows he isnt the murderer. While doing so, she has to cover up hints of her being the culprit, AND that shes the only girl around him who hasnt been killed. Maybe it could be an option if you want to help him? Like either that, or focus on gathering info on rivals. A gameplay option? Plus, if you chose to help Taro, it could help build a relationship and give him more personality.

[@Glittermoom]

I love everything about this video: your thoughts, your voice, your ideas about how to improve the game, and the background drawings. It’s just perfect!

[@nezukokamado1355]

I think that info-chan should instead be a silly best friend who hears rumors and feeds the rumors to ayano, like if a rival is hanging out with taro during classes

[@ocean_caswell]

I love all of your designs and you actually got me into drawing, thank you so much

[@SpookiePossum]

Some ideas I have is get a rid of the creepy rivals. Like the substitute teacher, nurse, and Taros kid sister. Like those rivals should not exist at all. Those rivals all leave such bad tastes in my mouth. If he wanted to have some more interesting rivals (to replace the creepy af rivals) he could have put maybe one of the rivals being from another school that Taro is friends with. So that way you can’t like stock and find everything about them at school. Maybe Ayano has to figure out away to skip school and get into the other school to stalk and learn about Taros friend from the other school. Just anything other than two rivals being freaking staff at the highschool and the sibling of Taro. Like I don’t think I need to go into how freaking creepy and wrong those three rivals are. And yes I know that Alex has said that all the students are “supposedly” over 18. In college you can’t date your professors cause of the power imbalance. It is still creepy for an 18yr to have someone who’s romantically interested in them that’s like their teacher and is definitely away of 20s and is probably in their 30s.

[@emi_emolga]

It always bugged me how you can interact with everyone BUT "senpai" when it should kind of be the other way around. It focuses too much on the murder part and not enough on bonding with him. I was shocked when Markiplier couldn't give him the octopus treats. Raising your popularity should apply to him too. If you're too flustered to talk to him, you're too flustered to win him over. No wonder the rivals manage to win him. They're doing everything Ayano is not. Why is he called Senpai anyway? The term suits him poorly with how he's portrayed. He is no upperclassman. He's plain and modest. People are using the term wrong because of this game. It's Senpai → Kouhai (Taro is neither). Not Yandere → Senpai. I think they should just simply refer to him by his name. Taro. Are you really in love with someone if you don't use his name even once? Ayano should have the name Taro all over her closet. Info Chan is technically the real senpai.

[@Rairii62]

I feel like it would be cute if every freshman character gets an upperclassman character as like a personal tutor assigned specifically to them, and Ayano and Taro get paired together. I can also see a mechanism where she has to plan her murderous activities outside of her and Taro’s scheduled meeting times after school and if she misses them too often he could get suspicious of her activities or harm their relationship together. Then it would actually make sense for him to be a senpai

[@longforari]

Wow video game design sounds easy when you explain it

[@callimara]

I have absolutely no idea about game design, I was just throwing my own ideas out there haha

[@Alecanore]

Reading the comments 4 ideas in info-chan aplication...I like her being an Bad Ending if you follow all her instructions, doing so you can choose being an independent yandere or an puppet.

[@goldenbreeze2315]

I’m so glad you made this video! I totally agree with what you said. I don’t like when people make videos about why they hate Yan Dev... because we all know the reasons I don’t condone his actions, but I like the game

[@goldenbreeze2315]

@Michael Brody you wouldn’t be saying that if you knew exactly what he did. But I agree, I don’t care about yandere dev anyway so what he does is non of my business. Even though im saying that I don’t agree with his actions, I think that he’s an overall good person and I like his videos and his game

[@ultimatedanganronpafan869]

Hello, I have a idea about for info chan: make her a normal schoolgirl that's interested in business and being a merchant and saleswoman for her parents store, she would be a horror novel enjoyer, which is why she knows so much about death and gorey ways to speed up a person's end, she is very analytical and anxious but is ultimately polite and friendly. She runs into you while trying to find her class and you get to choose if you befriend her or not, if you befriend her then you will get items that you wouldn't get by yourself

[@hi_tobby3771]

While I agree with you about Info Chan in the game, I think that she should stay, (Not because she is one of my favorites) but she could be useful to the game! We could make her the final Rival like it was planned or let her be the quiet kid who is interested in your accions and she proposes you to help her find interesting articles for herself and she will provide you with information

[@heyyyyyydumdum]

5:34 Only 5 minutes into the vid but had a couple thoughts: 1. So you go through the whole game with info-chan a somewhat-optional guide. But, the further you get into the game, the more questionable (and illegal) her requests become only for the final reveal; there was never an info-chan. The person the protagonist/player thought they were communicating with was the principal setting them up. Now the player has to either eliminate or discredit the principal and any evidence he has (maybe in a shorter amount of time than previous rivals) 2. Replace info-chan with Yan-chan’s mother and adjust how she would work as a guide; instead of having items magically drop from a window, the player is given hints/clues/information that Yan-chan’s mother would know within reason

[@kenzie_gxmer]

That’s a good idea, sadly yansim isn’t Continuing but this would be a good idea tbh

[@Feddy816]

Currently binging all your vids for inspiration bc on my main channel im tryna re work yandere sim into a mini series for KZbin and I need pointers on how not to make characters lol

[@abikay5743]

As a former member of the fandom I would literally put you as the main benefactor in my will if you made a game

[@tjeevee9494]

You brought up a lot of good points involving Info-chan and just revamping the gameplay experience as a whole! If I remember correctly from one of the old progress vidoes (that one that showed that flow chart with all the different things that contribute to your ending) one or two of the boxes involved Info-chan and how often you used her services (whether it was buying items or asking for schemes). Granted this doesn't match what you laid out in your vid, since the player technically has the *choice* of "interacting" with Info-chan or not. But the player choosing to ignore Info-chan for the entire game would be the closest thing to your idea of the player/Ayano figuring stuff out on their own in the game. I think having those extra weeks to learn about the rivals is very clever, especially when figuring out what particular elimination you want to try and pursue. Having more in game opportunities to stalk Senpai or even have some moments (which are up to the player to discover and trigger) to further grow his connection with Ayano and make him feel like more of a love interest would be a welcome addition too.

[@andriuwu4037]

Look how different her sona used to look T0T she's improved so much!

[@brendonslife4584]

Osana would make a better protagonist.. already laid out a pre-existing relationship with Senpai, and she could easily kill anyone close to senpai without drawing suspicion, and be able to console him after every death.

[@Eternal_Dreamer]

Something I think would be cool would be if Ayano (Yandere-Chan) had a friend who would help her with stuff like gathering information and expanding her relationship with senpai but the quality and how the friend feels about her actions is affected by their relationship and slowly as Ayano does worse and worse things we see the friends grow more and more detached/scared depending on our relationship with them and how much we have them contribute. They could also be our alibi or rat us out depending on our actions. If we keep our relationship good, we could corrupt them. Maybe in cut scenes we could see how they feel about our actions and after endings how our choices affected their life. Like in one ending they get arrested, and we go free or something. Also, there could be a secret ending where we end up getting together with the friend or they turn out to be yandere for us!

[@brianamoore3288]

I always thought Info-Chan was going to be revealed to be the Investigator from the cassette tapes' daughter, whose currently being hunted by Yan-Chan's Mom. And that all of Info-Chans manipulation is her setting up Ayano to get caught in an attempt to save & redeem her Dad, and this would be the big reveal after all the Rivals are taken out. If thats the idea that people are saying was scrapped its ironic that it was probably due to being easily predictable once you got the first full round of tapes

[@NameName-yj7lp]

I feel like the guidance counselor needs a lot of work She sucks at her job she basically : - talked at koko when she found out koko was selling gross instead of being like “ you good fam?” - LET 5 KIDS WALK WITH WEPONS - listen to whatever yan Chan says ( expel rival/Delinquents) - YOU SEE HER DO NOTHIN BOUT BULLIES

[@arcaden_]

woah you showed up on my recommendation- youre so underrated!! ❤️

[@callimara]

Thank you!

[@lobsterfan]

Slightly unrelated bur yandevs 80’s mode explanation seems suspiciously similar to your advice regarding menus and schemes without info-Chan 🤨 he got inspired i guess lmao

[@PastelHime]

21:41 No, he isn't, I remember a video of him literally saying that this game is not a joke When I heard him say that I was like "What-"

[@rosestar1324]

Yan Chan should just know about the tree myth. We see in her Backstory video that she meets senpai in school. So why can't she just know about it. Once she hears that Osana will confess at the tree she can put 2 and 2 together. With the way its written, it sounds like she's the only student who doesn't know about a popular school myth.

[@magnificloud]

THE DRAWINGS YES

[@callimara]

Thank you! I was really happy with them!

[@MasonMorto]

Its so weird to watch old Callimara videos about Yandere Simulator and notice that most of the things she purpose to the game, are in the game now, in 1980's mode. Alex is definitely really low.

[@sparkgacha4851]

I think after Osana was taken out, Yandere-Chan could realize that Info-Chan was also falling for Senpai, she took out info-chan, making info-chan no longer needed somehow, a different second rival in other words.

[@gabergine]

I agree with everything! But there's a little thing about info-chan, she's not supposed to be a student at the school (don't ask why she wears a uniform-) she's supposed to be someone that blackmailed the headmaster into giving her a complete room for her malice. The headmaster lies to the faculty and students saying that in that room there's a student who's sick and needs to be alone, that's the reason of why he stills uses the cassets in 2022, in fear of the hacker using that against him.

[@Hellsaid]

I think the idea of ​​doing 'tasks' for your classmates, and other students, could also help you so that they are less suspicious of you. For example; the fact that you are alone all the time or acting in strange ways caught the attention of students and every time something suspicious happens they doubt you. While if you interact with them and do things for them, they have more trust in you and also serve as a cover, for example 'I was doing something to help one of the students' and so you are not a target of distrust from teachers or the director. It can also be applied that if Ayano acts too strange, she is a target for bullying, so you often waste time by not being left alone by your bullies and not being able to investigate.

[@Len..K]

Judging by what you say in your videos I think you'd really like the Persona series, especially Persona 5. Also- personally I LOVE all the little comics about how Ayano doesn't really love Taro and that she'd see that Budo is a way better fit for her. It just shows how bad YanDev is at writing his story and characters that a lot of fans ship them and ignore Taro

[@thewitheredsouls]

I feel the schemes can be more put into books, anime, manga etc like how the killing with the potatoe chips & sink comes from an in game anime. I feel there are better methods but just going off of what is in the game already I suppose?

[@asterikks]

Whe getting items such as a lock pick or a fake ID, maybe you could get those items from other students at school and the things you get depend on the student. For example, getting cigarettes fro, the delinquents or getting a clean uniform from someone whose in the sewing club. This would also remove the need for panty shots (which is plain gross) and instead she does little favours for them or just straight up pays them for the items

[@dunkey759]

This concept is actually implemented in 1980s mode now that i think about it. Ryoba always vents by saying things like "i have to take her down" and hinting the rival's elimination methods, similar to "osana always leaves her bento". Theres also no info chan and the phone is substituted by a notepad, containing every elimination method which is honestly a great idea because she comes off as a real yandere girl, very similar to your video!

[@kejaamee2733]

Info-chan could still be in the game, not as a rival, but as a threat like the student council but not really. Unlike the student council she isn't well-known around the school only a few of her classmate knows she actually exists- Anyway since people rarely notices her (includes Yan-chan) she gets to sit back and watch everything... she can hear screams maybe notice kills either way she starts to notice Yan-chan's vulgar actions ( depending on what Yan-chan does) and starts to investigate. She can then threaten Yan-chan and this would make eliminating rivals harder. What Info-chan is threating to do is to tell your now rival of what your plan is, expose your actions, etc and now your goal is to eliminate her! But how? You hardly know anything about her... I would say more but let me know your ideas- cuz I don't have any..😗

[@spinalfluid1193]

21:10 I think the reason she’s allowed to do all this stuff canonically is that basically Alex made the headmaster creep because of DePrEsSiOn from what ayanos mother did, who hid cameras in the student toilets and locker rooms and basically info chan magically found out and is blackmailing him. This might not be official or I’m remembering something wrong but I think that’s the reason, honesly I agree with info chan being removed because then we wouldn’t have this disgusting bitof lore thrust upon us that ruins the headmasters character. I hate how in some way many parts of the game just circles back to creeping on young girls.

[@Riverneedsdinner]

Like I love games like this, I love the idea of being the bad guy and when this first came out I loved the game I also knew it was early in development, but the thing is he never got better and it sucks becaus I can't find any games like this who are quality games, although I found a mobile version that was about missions and was fun had more aspects and a million times less laggy 🙄

[@Wraphh]

What was the mobile version?

[@Persphone_cabin]

Coming back and re-watching this series and it’s strange to see her old avatar