The real life "KILL ROOM"

[@epizzle9232]

If you, or someone you know, are ever attacked or assaulted by someone, please never be embarrassed or ashamed to report it! By reporting what happened, you could save a life!!! AND!!!! Listen to your gut feelings! If something doesn’t seem right, turn around and get out of there!

[@MrBallen]

Couldn’t agree more

[@threecrayonswriting]

Seriously, men need to hone their danger instincts. While it is certainly a psychological burden for women to be cautious and wary in all kinds of situations, it’s also an asset. My dudes, there is no scenario in which a plastic wrapped garage is good news.

[@inglockwetrust6805]

@@MrBallen This channel is strictly for entertainment. Great content!

[@normturner4849]

Yes that is so frustrating bc only an idiot wouldn’t realise at the very least they could save someone else suffering the same experience or worse- which is exactly what happened with Johnny.

[@lalitstar2371]

@@MrBallen your doing great! May I please put in a request for a story?

[@kitchnerlesley]

I still miss the good old days when we got 3 or 4 strange, dark and mysterious uploads told in story format a week. Very grateful we still get one. Thanks for all your hard work Mr. Ballen. It's truly appreciated.

[@Forgiveiolord]

@Tommy Gaming 🅥 Mr ballen watching the movie we weren’t supposed too watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGrVampnrLeAmbM

[@LuisaD93]

Me too!

[@mizomint4197]

As I had said from the beginning, he needed to stop making so many videos every week. 1. He can do better research when he only does 1. 2. He would run out of stories so quick that his channel would end up going quiet. I'd rather see his channel last longer. 3. Less is more. Too much of a good thing ends up making it not so special. It is actually more appreciated and makes people happier when they get less of a good thing. Like seeing a loved one a couple times a week vs 24/7. That person and the time you spend with them becomes more special.

[@mza2195]

@@mizomint4197 all of what you said. He likes the research and telling a good story. He doesn’t like to tell only part of the story.

[@ibanheadhunter8317]

I do too but I know MrB is busy with family and other stuff.

[@susanbrowning5325]

As a female, I would NEVER follow instructions like that to meet someone. Guys, please be careful! Whether you’re a man or woman always meet up in a restaurant or coffee shop with lots of people (witnesses) around.

[@valerielevasseur8674]

Exactly! Also, letting a third party know where you’ll be is only half the battle, you also need to make sure the person you’re meeting knows someone else knows. Though last time I went through that performance for a freelance work gig I forgot to ask if I was parked in a tow away zone. It’s admittedly hard to remember all the things.

[@bernadettesullivan9851]

AND….. always let someone know when your going to meet up with a stranger and where

[@dvr2838]

Honestly at this point its just natural selection

[@emzkoe3904]

I wouldn't either. Not just cause I'm cautious and that whole scenario was fishy af but also because I'm bad with directions and I'm not trying to decipher some homework ass directions to get to somebody.

[@CLove511]

What are the odds we'd both be serial killers though? I play it safe and wait until the third date, then I know we really have a connection when one of us gets chopped up.

[@mrfleasy]

Gilles: *nearly gets brutally murdered* Gilles: "It is what is, I'm going home."

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Just when you think "i can't possibly be stunned by the stupidity of people anymore" . . . you hear of Giles.

[@noamias4897]

This is the dumbest group of people I have ever heard of I genuinely can't believe this

[@GregHuffman1987]

thank god he changed his mind, i was pissed after hearing that

[@whitewolf1112]

"I am HIM!" Moment

[@TKUA11]

I I know I wish you would have reported that and maybe Johnny would have not got murdered

[@mugen3603]

If a "woman" invites you, a complete stranger she met on the internet, to her home, of all places, for a first meeting, be veeeeeery skeptical. No woman with any common sense would ever do that. You should always meet in a public place for a first date.

[@Rakerong]

That was definite red flags. And why no phone numbers exchanged? Not that it would matter if there is a woman in on it and they were up to no good, but in no way should anyone feel comfortable getting specific driving instructions to a shady looking place. It makes no sense. It's like, if this were legit then the guy is gonna know the address of the place once he gets there so what was the point of all that? Exchange numbers, meet in a public place, make sure friends or family know where you're at and what you're doing, and play things cautiously.

[@Chrotesque]

The whole explanation of "I don't want to give you my address but let me explain to you how to get to my address" ... it's just giving you the address with extra steps. So many red flags throughout

[@scandisnowgirl3696]

Yep, I IMMEDIATELY knew that wasn't a woman. We meet up in public places with new people and let friends know where we're going and text them when we're home safe. We know better

[@Rakerong]

@@Chrotesque LOL facts. I'm not about to sit here figuring out landmarks to meet someone at their place.

[@Chrotesque]

@@scandisnowgirl3696 Exactly, there was no logic - not giving you my address but let's meet up at my place anyway ... what? :D It's a shame nonetheless, not thinking with the brain but rather ... you know :P

[@ShortHax]

I guess Mark didn’t realize, but he would be exactly the person that Dexter would kill

[@lamaramariewilson6746]

Exactly

[@AlanMichael0]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@mistyvalzania4022]

Thank you for saying it, cause that's exactly what I was thinking too! Dexter had a code! 🖤🖤

[@ibanheadhunter8317]

But the difference is that Dexter is fiction but Mark did it in real life which is way worse.

[@mazekaos]

Straight facts

[@colemanbergad6865]

This vid is not just entertaining, but an extremely important lesson about the danger of meeting unknown people, no matter how old you are,

[@bbth667]

Yes exactly

[@cheese-co6np]

@beth yb, your profile pic tho

[@bbth667]

@@cheese-co6np ok but yours tho .... cheese

[@keithherrera1038]

Yeah would have been entertaining had I not already seen the story in detail on dateline 48 hours and true crime daily years ago. Mr Ballen we love you but you seem to be trying to live up to some standard that most people don't care about we just want to hear stories man. Ones that haven't been overplayed on other true crime TV shows. Honestly everything but true crime is what got everyone hooked on the channel and you know that.

[@randomness8819]

You'd think theyd realize if,someone is weary of mtg you the 1st time they'd do it in public. Not telling u an address, but giving directions wouldn't be safe for a person who's supposedly scared n distrustful. I'm shocked the men didnt think this. If, i don't trust u to give u my address, i don't trust u enough to be alone w u! Then again 2nd guy ignored a whole real life murder prep scene.

[@englishrose0309]

To anyone who gets attacked please don't feel embarrassed or ashamed and report it! You may just save someone elses life ❤️ R.I.P Johnny and I hope Giles is doing ok x

[@Datduuudeee]

Fuck Giles, he involuntarily got johnny killed

[@sootuckchoong7077]

Killing is getting more common. WW3 is also coming. The end time is about to begin.... or already here now.

[@mapofthesoultagme7143]

lots are scared of police or just don't want to talk to them. Many may have bad experiences with police

[@PatchesNeddy]

​@@mapofthesoultagme7143You're a moron.

[@angelizdaboss]

Something you forgot to mention was that the reason none of his neighbors called the police when they heard screaming coming from his garage, is because he had gone out of his way to make little flyers and told all his neighbors like “hey I’m filming a movie so if you hear anything concerning don’t be alarmed. It’s all actors.” Etc.

[@jackkozlowski5201]

this dude is so full of b/s. There was no Edmonton killer that the director based his movie on. It was all him doing it. This fallen dude just adds elements to stories which never existed or are made up. There was one murder committed by him and one attempted murder where the victim managed to run away. He was set up on a pot dating site.

[@sultanaljuhani1571]

fucking mental with this nut case

[@ZsaZsaRodeo]

RIGHT/ MESSED UP

[@riverrated619]

I mean… he didn’t lie.

[@ramcharge2704]

That's absolutely disgusting! And very crazy,

[@roxanner.1014]

"She" didn't want to give an address, so gave exact directions like it was a top secret scavenger hunt. Wouldn't most people think, NOPE!

[@devilwife1494]

And as a dexter fan wouldn't that trigger you seeing that place wrapped on plastic like this?! 🤔 good grief.

[@hoppytoad79]

Easy peasy rule of thumb: If a woman--or person in general--won't give you her address, she won't give you any way to easily locate where she lives.

[@MrDewanchand]

Pussy makes you crazy

[@DarrylCobb]

Yeah come to the garage. **sees garage halfway open** I should go in. #DarwinAwards

[@ashleyashleym2969]

I dont get tha though, because those directions if they guide you to the house, he could easily figure out the address so then I'd think that person is an idiot or they think I'm an idiot.

[@achaides]

This whole story situation is so sad and scary. Even scarier to know that this guy's neighbors knew he was an amature filmmaker and had told them he was filming a horror movie so to not worry if they hear screams or power tools ☹

[@lyndaanneshop]

OMG! I never thought of that.

[@braetonwilson4296]

Also what shocked me was that a handsome tall guy like Mark would be a serial killer. Somehow I always picture serial killers as short ugly fat people lol.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

@@braetonwilson4296 Handsome? He looks dead inside. Definitely someone to steer clear of.

[@thebestaqua32]

@@braetonwilson4296 there are definitely a few serial killers that people find attractive, like Ted Bundy for example

[@braetonwilson4296]

@@thebestaqua32 Yep in fact serial killers tend to be attractive because it makes it easier for their victims to trust them.

[@Call3ndra]

I cannot express how relieved and happy I am that Gilles made it out. So sad for Johnny... but damn... the look in Mark's eyes... looked deranged indeed.

[@jarellgaddy8587]

This is a good example for why meeting someone from the internet should be done in a public place ,especially if the person gives shady and weird directions on how to get to their house.

[@moif]

Or ya just DON'T GO. It's like when people reply to fake "treasure" e-mails. Have some common sense and don't go. You know all those scary movies you watch and say "why is that person dumb enough to go in there?" - This. These people lack awareness, and Darwin had a theory...

[@rickwrites2612]

Absolutely. I think most straight women, and many gay men, have already internalized this by now, But for straight men they may still have a false sense of security because of the dearth of women who kill on first dates. But the truth is you could get that 1 lady who does, or you could be talking to a male serial killer, or a gang of thieves or anyone at all. The false sense of security is from the mistake of thinking women are victims of this type of murder because they're physically weaker. That's not why. It's because of 1. who the killers are, and 2. how we think about gender. 1. Most date killers happen to be straight men, so if sex instinct plays any role in their desire to kill, they will naturally target women. 2. As a young prettyboy gay I made some risky decisions in my teens and 20s. Like going into online hookups blind, being a bottom. I had 1 situation where I was violently assaulted, physically and sexually, where I wasn't even given an opportunity to negotiate or consent but thrown into some kind of nonconsensual, unsafe, insane BDSM scene without prior knowlege by a guy 3x my size without a safeword. Once the point of no return had been crossed and I fully realized I had 0 power, I had to act complicit because it was the safest thing to do. I was there for hours and had to act normal. He even had to drive me to train after. He asked if I was ok. And I remember it was VERY clear to me, that had I been a woman, I would be killed. I remember thinking in that moment, Thank God I'm not a girl because girls get killed after. That's fucked up. But it's what we are constantly fed in media. Boys/men are seen by abusers (and even others) as being able to accept and move on from abuse or rape "well he's a boy, he'll be ok". Girls are seen as ruined, stained, garbage. And garbage gets thrown out. In addition I think I wasn't just making an association fed by media, I think there was truth to it, in general, and in my particular situation. It was like an unspoken sense of "you're a guy, you understand the only rules are who can dominate who, you'll play by the rules". I'm not sure I'm articulating what I mean very well. But I do think as a result of these ideas, men, and in particular straight men, can have an inflated sense of security/invincibility when it comes to a blind date situation. Men have a very real awareness they can, at any time, be targeted for an unwanted fistfight if they say the wrong thing in public, because that's more common. So public is seen more of a place of risk, (although not murder level). Men don't usually walk around with the awareness that most women do, which is if you're alone anyone with a gun can hurt and kill you. It won't matter that you're x% stronger than if you were a woman.

[@Somegirl811]

I'm not gonna isolate myself out of fear of something extremely unlikely happening to me. But I agree it's definitely best to meet in public places.

[@mtpstv94]

I've met dozens of people from the Internet since the 90s. No problems yet. Though none gave weird vibes or directions for meeting. A problem occurring is closer to 0.1%. Don't live based on fears that are essentially as likely to happen as being hit by lightning. Just don't be a complete idiot and increase the chances like these guys were.

[@ryane.748]

Never go alone! Always let someone know where you're going if you don't know them.

[@Jo-hi9oc]

i love how animated he is when he tells stories. it makes the whole thing a real experience. great job.

[@devekut2]

Navy Seals experience life differently from you and I.

[@thomasman2382]

@@devekut2 fr they build different physically and especially mentally

[@Jo-hi9oc]

@@devekut2 i see!! i like it!!

[@giorgiodechambre6798]

You talk about him making it real!!! This happened in my city, and people were talking about it in Edmonton for a good month!!

[@doryliggett8407]

Like a story using ASL

[@Psyopcyclops]

It sucks being a True Crime fanatic sometimes, because I already know the “twist” and the “ending” of some of John’s videos. However, NOBODY tells the story like he does, so it’s always worth it.

[@jennyskipworth]

Yep. Same.

[@sarabudic3363]

Omg same . I knew the entire story but still sat through and listened

[@alvirafid7808]

I was suspecting the ending. But it still got me

[@Peanut_taco_muffin]

It’s not a story for your entertainment. People are actually brutally murdered in these cases and the way this guy talks about them totally cheapens the tragedies and is giving his younger viewers a similar mindset, seeing true crime as “stories” and they’re just entertainment for you. It’s not an M Night movie, it’s a real event that destroyed several lives.

[@Psyopcyclops]

@@Peanut_taco_muffin I’m sure you felt very righteous writing this piece of drivel Mrs Potatah Head, but like it or not, True Crime has become a form of entertainment because of its effect that it has on people. People are curious about what makes things tick. What makes people do bad things. And how to protect yourself from things like that. People have been telling stories of crimes, wars, battles, disasters, and drama for millennia. This isn’t some new phenomenon, but from up there on your high horse, you might have missed it with your head in the clouds. Oh and BTW, we can see your True Crime playlist full of Stephanie Harlowe and Unsolved Mysteries. You can pretend that you’re better than us if you want, but you’re literally consuming the exact same content, and feeding the same beast that “entertains” us.

[@zaneps151]

The thing that’s crazy is if the guy had just not written the script with such detail and had altered it, he might have gotten away with it for a lot longer Making the script to be so accurate that only the killer would know is one of the dumbest things he could’ve done

[@cartooncritique6625]

Blindsided by his own creative passion. I've heard of artists losing themselves to their work before, but this dude took it to a whole new level.

[@Zeroxylon]

its possible that he never intended on getting away with it and just didnt think hed be caught before he could finish the script

[@zaneps151]

@@Zeroxylon possible but unlikely considering how badly he wanted to break into Hollywood

[@DVNGXR]

No we would never have gotten away longer regardless. he got caught because the plan was terribly sloppy, he used his own garage, communicated with the victims giving directions to his property by email, leaving evidence and he let his first victim get away to be able to tell exactly what happened and where, but then repeated the exact same plan again. The script just made it extremely easy to convict him since it was literally and a confession.

[@favJ-qq2ef]

he would not get away for long at all, his first victim literally escaped and the only reason he didnt get caught that same day was because the guy was too "scared" to go to the police, he would have given the address and the messages and that itself is pretty much conclusion for this guys "serial killer" career, probably the most incopetent killer ive seen.

[@michellegeisler7455]

Thank you so much for telling this horrible tragedy. People need to know that these dating sites are not safe even for men . People are to trusting and need to be safe and smart about dating online. Thank you again ...

[@NinjaZXRR]

I’ve seen stories about Tinder disasters, it seems that sad lonely guys disregard logic and reason.

[@paulesterline5714]

You are 100% correct. I have a girlfriend that I found on a dating site (fortunately she was/is real so no one died) but we both had to have 100% blind trust to meet up that first time. For me (and my soon to be wife) it worked out. Listening to this definitely got my attention because so much of it was so close to what happened with us! ....with a happy ending obviously.

[@pepironi992]

So me Ballen is not only only posting once every few weeks and is clearly copying stories from “this is monsters”. Disgrace

[@terriaki1273]

As a women, I tend to meet people I don't know for coffee, in a very public place. I think men should do the same with someone they don't know.

[@camerontaylor7985]

too*

[@theosnepenthes8751]

That's why, despite any embarrassment, you ALWAYS have to report an incident like this to the authorities. If not for yourself, for the next possible potential victim who might not be so lucky and pay with their life. Imagine living with that guilt.

[@supahmariostyle]

THANK YOU! Silence helps no one.

[@bigdundee12345]

But…. The only reason mark got caught was because giles was so secretive? Soo, it was lucky he didnt report it. Plus this type of thing almost never happens lol.

[@amypoff8589]

The worst part is that reporting does not mean that the police will do anything

[@no_peace]

The root of the problem isn't that people aren't willing to report, it's that they don't want to be retraumatized by people who ultimately won't do anything, and ostracized in their communities. This is not the fault of victims

[@breelauren3748]

I understand your sentiment, but we have to be careful when making statements like this because they can easily cross the line into victim blaming. Like in the circumstances of rape victims - it’s very rare for any rapist to ever be prosecuted and most rape kits go completely unchecked. It does no good to report rapists 99% of the time, so most victims choose to save themselves further trauma of having strangers poke and prod them inside and out, swabbing their anus, their vagina, their mouth, taking swabs of everything, removing and keeping their clothing, retelling and reliving the event in great detail - and then nothing being done. So we can not put the blame on victims. It’s likely that a victim could report the killer/rapist/assault and then nothing be done and the perpetrator still go on to reoffend. It is not the fault of the victims.

[@pengelou]

His storytelling is so intense that I sometimes realize that I'm not breathing. Can't get enough of his stories.

[@videoarchiv6938]

how much do i have to pay to your agency to receive such comments under my videos? can i write the text and u spam it with different accounts under my vids?

[@kristopherguilbault5428]

@@videoarchiv6938 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 ☠️💀☠️💀☠️ I can't!!!!! 😭😭😭😭

[@chasbo25]

@@videoarchiv6938 Cynical fuck; yes? Guy has over 6 million subscribers.... You? None.......

[@pengelou]

@@videoarchiv6938 ????

[@asmrlacedwithpearls4310]

My heart was pacing 😭

[@rockyspears707]

The fact that he play as harry is crazy because if anyone is a true fan of dex you’ll know that his father in the show was named harry

[@warloew8610]

Me and my lady of a long time just split and I’ve been really depressed and moping around about it, like couldn’t be worse. This story snapped me out of it. I’m not in a garage covered in plastic about to die. I’m good now, thanks Mrballen.

[@lisasinclair2748]

How about a kitchen covered in plastic then? Nah jokes. Sorry about your gal. You'll feel better eventually. Good luck.

[@rugboy]

Look on the bright side... Perhaps your ex IS 😁

[@006ahenry]

Look.at this way, your SINGLE... YAY... go have some fun.. find a no strings attached lady and enjoy yourself. You'll feel better.

[@joeysplats3209]

If you love her, don't just kiss it goodbye. OTOH is it something that can never be overcome?

[@sarafargo6739]

Shit could always be worse. Still feel your pain though 🤙

[@Richard-Freeman]

Everyone should read "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin De Becker. It teaches people to trust their gut feelings and instincts and to not simply dismiss them as being paranoid.

[@rickyelvis3215]

thanks ricky... will read checkout~ the subtle art of not giving a fuck... mark manson. cheers.

[@Richard-Freeman]

@@rickyelvis3215 I have read that one. It's a good read.

[@darylesells19]

While I don’t need a book to know to trust my gut because I always do, there are tons of people that could gain a lot by reading it.

[@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult]

@@darylesells19 specially women

[@mewan1708]

Why should I read when u already summarised the book.

[@skollseye7068]

If the distressing part is when the couple just leaves then Giles decides to not call the police immediately, then yes this video is incredibly distressing. RIP Johnny.

[@davidtalon5553]

Amen! RIP Johnny be at peace.

[@nicolaidesourdy9844]

Only people from Edmonton understand why they didn't help. It's a wild city.

[@hog9433]

But on the flip side, if they never would have walked by, he would have been killed. In a way they did save his life.

[@SurFrankenRon]

I know, what's wrong with people?

[@Jenacide]

@@nicolaidesourdy9844 I can understand if they're wary it was a trap and they were about to be mugged or conned, but in that case I would have walked a safe distance, kept him in eye sight, and called the cops about the man who ran up to us claiming this dude was trying to kill him. The first guy not calling the cops immediately is what really makes me mad. I am glad he changed his mind and called later, but that was something he should have done immediately.

[@Quellcee]

Amazing job! I’m from Edmonton and there’s another murder that I think you should cover if you haven’t already. Her name is Amber Tuccaro, she was kidnapped and murdered. The police have absolutely botched the investigation despite there being a voicemail she left that includes the voice of her killer. The more eyes and ears we have learning her story, the better chance of her finally getting some justice ❤

[@loriskotheim4404]

Yes, Amber Tuccaro would be a god story to talk about. Maybe someone would remember something, crucial information… would be great to bring Amber home to her family and friends ❤

[@popatot100]

If he does that, he should cover Pat Carlson SA ranch in Alberta, some think its linked to that case

[@omgrachihiii]

What about Karen Ewanciw?! The police never found her killer and she was just a little girl! or what about Gordie Sanderson(Septic Tank Sam)?! a young man who was a victim of the 60's scoop, and was found murdered in a septic tank! They could'nt even determine if he was a man or woman at first because of what his killers did to him. His identity was just revealed in 2021 and he was murdered in 1977. Or even Philip Innes Fraser?! A young man traveling from Alaska through BC to Seattle and was murdered along the way and his car was found burned out in Prince George, BC. There are a lot of murders here that need more attention.

[@nicknightlyfb7140]

I’m from Edmonton. Small world, I actually went to school with Amber

[@hibby21]

from edmonton as well, that would be a good video to cover. not enough coverage of it

[@JuJiro.]

Giles was absolutely insane for following those instructions. At least his bravery saved his life. Please guys no matter how desperate you are for companionship, don’t fall for things like that.

[@cuppycakey5013]

I know, seriously! Guys, if a girl actually likes you, she will meet you at a public place. Never meet anyone in a dark garage or a field or anything. No woman will ever actually ask you to do that. It’s a trap.

[@jameswest6232]

I try not to victim blame when it comes to these stories, but yeah. Johnny especially was bad given how many weird things popped up ("Harry", the weird directions, etc.) and him refusing to put 2 and 2 together.

[@TheVioletBunny]

Bravery yet a coward for not telling the police and preventing the other man from dying

[@jhonklan3794]

Victim blaming, if it was a women you would not being saying those things.

[@pietro4772]

@@TheVioletBunny True. He will have that on his conscience for a while. Living in a community we are all our brother's keeper.

[@sarahg2653]

I don't understand why Mark thought he would get away with this. Making a movie about his own killings would only draw attention to himself. And if he slips up and leaves in details that aren't known to the public? Well then he's pretty much caught. And that's exactly what happened.

[@astridmaack4516]

Could it not have been passed as fictional? Typically blank spaces gets filled with fictional things that fit with the rest. Idk tho It ofc depends on how much and if someone reported what happened. Like if it’s like it was in this case, pretty clear it ain’t fiction. But if it’s something small, I feel like it can be hard to tell.

[@julujay9999]

he thought he was smarter than others. maybe he is a narcissistic, cause that what they think.

[@katherineheasley6196]

Serial killers actually tend toward being low-IQ. Your usual sociopath is smart enough to recognize the risk-reward factor isn't in their favor.

[@joneubanks9686]

why'd u have to spoil it

[@strangerinthedark3671]

@@katherineheasley6196 That's false, serial killers actually have average IQs.

[@kellyharris8976]

Hearing this story many times now, I still can’t help but feel so upset with Giles for not reporting this murderer. Had he done so, Johnny would never have met such an awful fate. Thanks for the upload, Mr. B!

[@cijmo]

He explains this in his book. He was really embarrassed. Remember, we didn't know the circumstances surrounding Johnny's disappearance. (At the time, it was just a missing person report. Nobody knew where he was.) Same with the couple who didn't help him. They were convinced it was a set-up. (The area is a gang area.)

[@prantosarathy386]

So nice comment

[@shootingreal5945]

@@cijmo And yet they feel safe enough to go on walks in a gang area.

[@craftergamer9058]

I think Giles was the character from the script.

[@meatpuppet5036]

I went from thinking he was stupid for doing so many risky things, to genuinely disliking the guy, the hell with "feeling embarrassed", his cowardice got a man killed.

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

Oh WOW. I was so rooting for poor Gilles, I was actually shouting "Noooo!!" at the bit where the attacker was trying to drag him back into the garage. How bad he must have felt for not reporting it at first. The whole story was unbelievably crazy, and so fabulously told by Mr Ballen. A real nail biter!! 🥺

[@areebasyed2469]

I feel bad for Johnny as he didn't survive

[@loveistheanswer5924]

Do you want to come to my garage? 🙂 Just kidding of course! What a horrible story! 👹😡😪

[@abidkhattak5780]

Ever since I started following your channel, I have drastically made some adjustments in my personal life. As much as I started watching your content for entertainment purpose initially, now I honestly started incorporating some practices that I overlooked before out of carelessness or just not overthinking about dangers around us. I have made a habit of always checking my doors and windows to make sure they're locked. Also me and my family enjoy outdoor activities and are regular campers. I have a 4 year old daughter and I make sure I never keep her out of my sight or my reach no matter how tired or exhausted I am. You are doing the community a great service and I wish your videos reach many viewers out there and they learn a thing or two about the invisible monsters all around us. Thank you sir!!!

[@milanannella]

Yes me too!!! Now more than ever I’m more aware of everything around me esp when it comes to my daughter… I tell her allllll the time… there’s a lot of crazy people out here and you never know… always be aware & watch your surroundings and don’t ever trust anyone esp strangers and never talk to strangers even if you think they look nice… even women. There’s a story where this man came out of the store with his baby while his wife was still in the store and this lady came up to him took his baby & when he tried getting his baby back she started yelling that he was tryna steal her baby and everyone tried hurting him and she started walking off but luckily the wife came out and got her baby and they lady just left before anyone could see where she went cuz people still didn’t believe the father and was still attacking him. Crazy store but so true. There are so many predators out here esp with trafficking.

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

Do you know the channel Active Self Protection? You'd like it Abid!

[@milanannella]

@@NickM_FirstofHisName going to check it out thanks!

[@milanannella]

I just subscribed… this is definitely up my alley lol. Thanks for the recommendation! If you like stories like MrBallen… Lets Read has some really good stories that he narrates from Reddit and others… he’s very very good too! Let’s Read is his channel

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

@@milanannella Thanks for the recommendation, I'm going to check it out!

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

The fact that Mark wanted to become a filmmaker so badly that he wanted to make a film about a serial killer. He became a real life serial killer. Which is very ironic. Because Mark would’ve been the exact type that Dexter would hunt down.

[@pandaaddict2756]

That's what I was saying! I didn't want to type out another comment about it if someone already said it lol, thanks! 😀

[@cartooncritique6625]

I never watched the show, but I remember the premise was that Dexter was a serial killer who killed other serial killers...I guess Mark wasn't a true fan after all. 😄

[@BaalsMistress]

Not a serial killer, just a murderer. With a single victim, he doesn't meet the threshold to be a serial killer. So he failed on that too.

[@lunar_pop8286]

@@BaalsMistress god damn you didn’t have to burn him that deeply… do it againXD

[@mask938]

@@BaalsMistress Mark tried to be three things at once and failed at all of them. I’m not sure if that’s funny or sad.

[@simontemplate]

I would say it takes a certain lack of situational awareness for someone to visit someone they don’t know and just met on the internet in a “probably too good to be true scenario” following strange convoluted directions and then seeing the garage lined with plastic - carrying on inside!

[@justadragn55]

If I got very odd directions, got to where I was supposed to go, looked under a garage door and saw plastic covering literally everything, pretty sure I'd realize I don't wanna meet anyone bad enough to go inside.

[@jackkozlowski5201]

this dude is so full of b/s. There was no Edmonton killer that the director based his movie on. It was all him doing it. This fallen dude just adds elements to stories which never existed or are made up. There was one murder committed by him and one attempted murder where the victim managed to run away. He was set up on a pot dating site.

[@tiranecat6865]

I went to buy a mattress once, had linked up with a lady off Facebook. I followed directions to the address, a supposed mattress store…. It was a warehouse with no lights on, door was chained, and the “lady” refused to meet me outside and kept telling me to just come in (I didn’t even see an entrance that wasn’t locked!!) I just left and blocked her. No mattress was worth that hassle

[@GGtheRealest]

@@tiranecat6865 trusting your immediate gut feeling can save you from a lot of trouble and who knows what you saved yourself from but you were absolutely right. if they aren't willing to meet outside somewhere public, huge huge red flags. always do this while armed. preferably with someone else armed in the car as well. I was looking to buy some rings off of facebook and found someone with a cool collection, BUT minutes after I had told them I was on the way with an ETA they had responded with OK and once I got there, they weren't answering calls, they just sent me a text to come in. I said no, come outside, they tried convincing me more to come inside through their door and I just dipped outta there. my gut was screaming bad bad bad bad.

[@tylerthomas7763]

If something feels odd don’t do it. Usually you should trust your gut instinct. That’s why things like Craigslist or dating apps are a cautious endeavor.

[@soufgxtti]

I woulda told her she was doing to much soon as she said that. I never would’ve showed up

[@vampiresquid]

A few years back, while Dexter was still on the air (I was a fan) a friend of mine went out of town and I agreed to drop by his house and feed his cat. I couldn't find the food so I went into the garage, flipped on the light and holy cow there was all this plastic sheeting hanging up, just like one of Dexter's kill rooms. Startled the hell out of me, but it turns out he was making a clean room to rebuild the engine in his Porsche. (Or so he claimed. He did have an old Porsche).

[@TASmith-ou3is]

I would've left the whole bag of food out for the cat, so I didn't have to come back! I used to watch Dexter, too, and that set-up in the garage would've scared the crap out of me!!

[@AT-nq3sy]

Dexter just put out a last season. You should check it out. It was pretty good.

[@angelab2906]

@@TASmith-ou3is hahaha smart!

[@Felicity2121]

@@AT-nq3sy it was a letdown. Rushed ending.

[@fitihab]

This made me giggle

[@aaron8977]

Oh man, you’re seriously such a talented story teller. The fact that I’ve heard this story 10 times, and you still almost made it feel like hearing a new one is incredible.

[@lovelight6973]

Agreed

[@LevelUpLifting]

the twist at the end LITERALLY made my jaw drop...holy shit.

[@LevelUpLifting]

HOLY SHIT MrBallen THANK YOU FOR THE HEART!!! I just recently got into your content after seeing your videos on Facebook. I've been binge-watching for several days now, you got a new dedicated fan here who will absolutely demolish the like button every single time :D

[@scionixx9568]

I loved the show “Dexter” and dexter was a guy who murdered awful serial killers who were able to slip through the justice system. This guy was someone Dexter would’ve hunted down.

[@elizabethcat6334]

I agree with you 100%.

[@adammada511]

Police police police, see we "NEED" police in our society because they "HELP" us. What would we do in a society without police. Well we would have to form tighter communities because there's no police to call and we would always be carrying some type of weapon into risky scenarios (Because there's no law preventing this common sense carry). Hmmm just think about how much "help" the police were in these scenarios as opposed to how much help a tighter community / tighter bonds with neighbors would be, paired with carrying at the very least a taser at all times. Do you see how police protection is a fallacy and that we would literally be safer WITHOUT police. Yes that's actually the reality of it. Police are an evil cult that need to be abolished all they do is arrive AFTER a crime has been committed to satiate vindictiveness. They don't protect us AT ALL, they only prevent self protection though reliance on them. Abolish the immoral police cult!

[@AmbientShades]

@@adammada511 True, but it's a long road to that ideal from this point. There are very few communities left that are willing - much less capable - of policing themselves. And really it would eventually boil down to gang warfare, which ironically enough is why the police were invented 200 years ago.

[@davidortiz3094]

I agree.

[@carlbrenston8436]

@@adammada511 Based

[@wetteryan]

I know this case in and out. I have seen countless documentaries and listened to countless podcasts on it. And still the way you told the story had me completely captivated the whole way through. You are easily one of the best story tellers on KZbin.

[@mr.c7080]

I beg to differ

[@wetteryan]

@@mr.c7080 are you not a fan of the strange dark and mysterious?

[@autumnh5027]

@Gladiator Days no one cares

[@fatalfae2]

I 100% agree Mr Ballen is amazing, so captivating

[@fatalfae2]

@@wetteryan lmaoooo

[@gyver8448]

This is why if you're going to meet someone from a dating site, you should always do it in a neutral, public location where there are plenty of witnesses. At least that way you can confirm they are who they say they are and not some random dude.

[@TowGunner]

Desperate people do stupid things.

[@realcanadiangirl64]

I learned that the hard way when I ended up getting drugged and raped by a man who I met online. We had been chatting for a couple of months. He was a single dad of an 8 year old boy as his wife died when their son was six months old. One night we were supposed to meet but then he said his babysitter cancelled. I had a rule that I always met in a public place but I felt safer this time because of his little boy who ended up being a real little sweetheart. It was right after Christmas and he had to show me every one of his gifts as well as his cat. After his dad put him to bed he made me a drink and we sat on the couch and visited. He was a gentleman. I finished my drink and he said that he was going to make me another one that would be extra tasty. He brought it to me from the kitchen and I took one sip. Immediately after that I had difficulty keeping my eyes open. He took me by the hand and told me that I had better go lay down. That was my last memory until 4 am when I woke up in a bed with no clothes on.

[@CONEHEADDK]

@@TowGunner Or stupid people...

[@divershay]

@@realcanadiangirl64 omg!!! Did you turn him in? What happened after that?

[@isabelp187]

@@realcanadiangirl64 I'm so sorry that happened to you, he lured you in with a false sense of security, what a loser

[@MireilleAntone]

He was a fan of Dexter, yet he forgot the Code of Harry (Dexter's father). Dexter could only kill other murderers to fulfill his need to kill while also doing good. This guy even had the nerve to call himself "Harry" with the second victim in this story.

[@Centinal__]

he wasn't trying to be exactly like dexter

[@eastmeetswestpresents6923]

@@Centinal__ Oh I think he was... but in his obsession to know what its like to be a serial killer like Dexter, he (like anyone watching Fight Club or Joker) missed the point

[@russellst.martin4255]

I briefly considered skipping this one cuz I've heard about this case several times, but I'm glad I didn't. It's really a testament to how damn good of a storyteller you are that I was engaged just as much or even more than the first time I heard about it.

[@bbzvxb3929]

Facts I thought I was buggin

[@daniellefletcher2862]

Yeah same and he always gets extra details which makes it so much better

[@purplebuttafly8]

Agreed 👍. Yikes!!

[@User_1976_Dodge]

He is the best. Be warned, His stories are also addictive.

[@michellemackinnon2801]

Me too! I already know this story, but I thought Mr Ballen has such an enthralling gift that I'll give it a listen. I was on edge! This man is a master of storytelling!!

[@crimsonshadow1649]

There have been so many cases of people being catfished and attacked by someone they met on a dating site, it really should be made into a movie to teach people, especially men, not to waltz into the homes of some supposedly cute blond babe they met online. Most women are more wary of meeting new people and would prefer to meet in a public place first, if you get an invitation to her house on the first date, that is a huge red flag

[@abigail858]

Exactly! I kept thinking throughout this whole thing: "Why are these dudes ignoring the huge red flags!???" Weird direcrions, garage covered in plastic, a gorgeous woman that is happy to invite them into her home without knowing them!

[@wessley4606]

Naaa it's not where Im from, it's a green light you've bagged a slag.

[@happytotroll]

video chatting solves this issue. never meet someone you haven't seen

[@elloowu6293]

@@abigail858 Guys overlook ALOT when there's a chance of getting laid.

[@crimsonshadow1649]

@@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits which coconut shell have you crawled out from under? You do know there are plenty of horror and action movies out there of people doing much worse things right? And you're saying everyone who watches movies follows what happens in the movies? No need to insult the intelligence of others when you have none to speak of

[@cartooncritique6625]

6:50 I would have just suggested meeting up at a public place instead. You know when they talk about "suffering for your art" they're usually talking about the artist themselves suffering NOT causing suffering.

[@Jennivo69]

I love how your body instinctively started moving like you were fighting the attacker. I love your story telling. You are very enthralling.

[@SlurryNoises]

That was very smart of Johnny to let his friend know where he'd be going, instructions and all. And his friend was a true homie for alerting the police once they realized something was off. What a tragedy. R.I.P Johnny

[@halosawz]

That one act probably saved a few lives, too bad it cost Johnny his.

[@audreymuzingo933]

Yeah if only GILES hadn't been so protective of his ego to report what happened to him, then Mark would have been in jail before he could keep catfishing.

[@bjc4204]

Yeah, but I wish his instincts were better. Every sign said RUN.

[@SlurryNoises]

@@audreymuzingo933 Yeah a part of me REALLLLY wants to blame Giles, too.

[@elijahsesi4755]

I just read the script. Turns out, the loser chickened out and told johnny to go home. The man came back the next day and got killed! Of course, Mr ballen left that bit out, probably to make the story more concise.

[@MarkRenouf]

Being a fan of the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story form, I have heard this story before on more than one channel... Despite that MrBallen has managed once again to tell it completely fresh and from a perspective that puts me right over the shoulder of the subject. Welcome back from vacation... we missed you!

[@ryandudley7797]

I do feel he should of mentioned it was told by him before

[@TheNoSuchThingPodcast]

Yeah. I’ve heard it many times but mr Ballen has a nice way about him

[@istartedajoke1704]

AGREED

[@endlessmountainoutdoors]

I often look for stories I hear on his channel. He is one of a few that can hold my attention. Just the right length.

[@MarkRenouf]

@@dougmiller7592 There were no videos for a couple weeks. I was getting worried. I think it's because of the podcast :-)

[@daylemullaney8164]

Crazy. I don’t live in Edmonton but close by. I never thought I’d hear Mr. Ballen cover a story that hits so close to home. Thank you for this

[@a05031]

I love strange dark and mysterious things delivered in story format, and Mr Ballen is my absolute favourite KZbin channel! So glad I found him!

[@mahera2877]

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[@sheep7943]

Me too

[@sheep7943]

Me too

[@ilarious5729]

Can KZbin finally do something about these sex bots ffs 😩 Everytime I go check the replies on a comment half of them are bots

[@Forgiveiolord]

@Tommy Gaming 🅥 Mr ballen watching the movie we weren’t supposed too watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGrVampnrLeAmbM

[@ClintonC.Caraway]

I see I'm not the only one who misses the time when we got "three to four and sometimes even five uploads every week!!" This is my favorite channel and I really would love more content.

[@cindykq8086]

Me, too, but if fewer videos means Mr. B can keep up the high caliber quality of his stories, so be it.

[@Denali_Rebel]

His three, four, sometimes even five uploads every week were such great quality as well. I thought early on that if he keeps going at this rate he will either be scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories or have to do a lot of research for a good one.

[@rocknrollroses]

his new podcast is coming out soon!

[@darrellcovello7917]

He got us addicted, then left us hanging... 😆

[@MagklJellyBeanPastelLucidDream]

I’ve kinda had to take a backseat just for that reason. It’s not that I don’t want to watch, it’s coz I binge.

[@BeedeoJunkie]

This story serves to reminds us to be vigilant in the online dating scene. As a general rule: 1. If its too good to be true, it most likely is. 2. If at any point the one messaging you wants you to do some sort of complicated or lengthy process before meeting up, stop messaging and don't go through whatever instructions they tell you to do.

[@h91rex100]

I know, its so easy to have a first meeting at an agreed upon PUBLIC location. Blows my mind

[@Chasecka]

The only reminder that you need: Own a gun and ALWAYS have it on you! Period!

[@marccleary8592]

I met my wife online and we are.... Never mind you're correct

[@mask938]

3. Don't meet them at their house or in a secluded area. Always meet in a public place where there are a lot of people. 4. Tell your family and/or friends where you're going and when you'll be coming back before you go to meet the person. They won't be able to help you if they don't know where you are. 5. Carry pepper spray and/or mace. 6. Carry a whistle or an alarm. You can use them to try and alert anyone who might be nearby. 7. If your gut is telling you something's wrong and that you should bail, listen to your gut. It might just save your life.

[@marccleary8592]

@Tommy Gaming 🅥 thanks man I really enjoyed this 😆😆

[@sansthedrummer]

I have lived in and around Edmonton most of my life. While I never heard of this case until now, the area of this garage doesn't surprise me. That area is known as Millwoods, or "Killwoods" and "Millhood" as some of us call it. It was a horrible area of the city for decades, but has somewhat cleaned up these last few years.

[@andych92]

What baffles me is how do you almost get killed in a literal kill room and say yeah I'm just gonna forget about it and not tell the cops lol

[@hansgruber9685]

Maybe he was going to kill the woman he was meeting. Then he met another serial killer. “Well, this is awkward…”

[@SilentAttackTV]

Yea, it was a very cowardly thing to do

[@flux.aeterna]

Trauma is a strange beast to live with.

[@firelordplayz]

Trauma and shock plus embarrassment thinking maybe it was "his fault". Same reason why many women don't tell anyone about rape.

[@Psychoanalytical87]

Ptsd, he put it to the back of his subconscious just like some rape victims 😔

[@alienfish8521]

I know exactly what he meant when he said he felt a surge of adrenaline. I was the victim of a home invasion and attacked and told I would be killed. On hearing that I just thought to myself if I'm dying, I'm dying fighting. I actually managed to fight my out of the house. Still got the scars on my face.

[@anobody2606]

Hope you're okay now😸

[@sharazar]

Oh wow. Thank you for sharing. That must have been so scary. Hope you are ok, now. Mentally so that does not affect you for years to come. Take care of your self.

[@travelerforever8849]

I hope you will not suffer long term PTSD. Do take care..

[@yourGFcallsMEdaddy]

♡

[@ianonufer6988]

This is why I have guns in the house. I work out of town and am glad to know that my wife is able to protect herself when I am not home

[@kimberlygabaldon3260]

It just goes to show that it's always safest to meet a blind date in a public place, with people around, even if you're a male. This story sounds very similar to Luca Magnotta. Creepy stuff!

[@h.cedric8157]

Yup, specially when false rape accusations are the norm.

[@travelerforever8849]

I remember in this channel, Mr Ballen did mention of a case where a male student being abducted after following a beautiful girl, drunk. He end up tortured and then sacrificed by cult members .. 😐😨😨

[@KhanMann66]

So many red flags and yet these guys still fell into the killer’s trap, wtf?

[@h.cedric8157]

@@KhanMann66 because that's what society taught them to be, to be like flies to honey, to praise women as gods, that thinking like a man is mysogynistic and evil Patriarchy. Where is their Strong Independent Women now that Women with AKs are figting for their land in Ukraine?

[@pinky2245]

Yes, this is very similar to the Magnotta case. Gives me the 'willies'!!

[@beckyjogilbert5712]

Whenever you see a room covered in plastic wrap, RUN!!!!

[@morganablackwater2017]

Yeah you would though it would ring a bell wouldn't you? Xd

[@neo4552]

too late

[@I_am_a_cat_]

What if they have a bunch of cats in said room, and when they open the door the day "i have a cat pee problem" Would it be acceptable then? I think so. I mean unless the walls are covered... But if you see the room, its probably already too late. Theyre probably gonna be right behind you holding a weapon

[@afro_snake6458]

​@@I_am_a_cat_no.. still not acceptable

[@deehorton7720]

Dexter 😂

[@De.V.]

This is much more than a story of a wannabe serial killer. The need for approval, acceptance… has one man hiding in shame from being attacked, and another willing to commit horrific acts in search of fame. A terrifying and sad story indeed.

[@thehousespouse]

Mark didn’t need approval or acceptance from anyone. He was getting off purely on terrifying and killing people. He could have picked any subject material if it was about getting approval and fame. He chose a serial killer because he wanted to torture and kill people

[@socialmedia2674]

Wannabe serial killer???? who in their right mind wants to be a serial killer? no one unless you are a serial killer. No one in their right mind would kill anyone for "acceptance and approval" Mark was already a serial killer, no one becomes a serial killer over night.

[@socialmedia2674]

@@thehousespouse word

[@moocyfarus8549]

@@socialmedia2674 normal people do not want to be serial killers that doesn't mean no one does, and the greatest shame is that we make serial killers celebrities encouraging other people to be so, so yes in fact there are a lot of wannabe serial killers, it's sad and it's sick

[@socialmedia2674]

@@moocyfarus8549 if someone wants to be a serial killer then in my opinion they are NOT normal, but evil bastards.

[@suzidazz05d35]

Poor Johnny but how clever he was to have sent the details to a friend just shame he still walked into the creepy garage. But he did save other potential victims from facing the same fate.

[@Snapper314]

No. CLEVER would have been to insist that his "date" meet him AT A PUBLIC PLACE (like the restaurant or theater). CLEVER would have been to ALWAYS carry a Flashlight so you would Never have to enter a dark place. CLEVER would have been to be Armed so as to Not be an Easy Victim.

[@trevon1921]

It was a lot of red flags 🚩 the lights turning on and off is a deal breaker already

[@nsagoogle9581]

Unlike Giles. He could have put an end to it but his pride cost other people's lives. Fuck your embarrassment, if there's a killer loose, contact the authorities...

[@Bamiyanbigasf]

He’s not clever at all he’s stupid may he Rest In Peace but literally it couldn’t have been any more comical how the scenario played out like a bad horror movie how the fuck do you walk into a garage covered in plastic with a masked man and then come back later and enter it in the dark like oh my fucking god how naive and unaware do you have to be

[@Xlnjv]

@@Bamiyanbigasf took the words out my mouth, tragedy but how bad of a coochie drought do you have to be in to fucking ignore that many red flags and then just say “police!” like some officer is gonna just jump from out the corner

[@WayToVibe]

I think one of the most important takeaways from this is that when someone does something bad to you then TELL SOMEONE sooner, not later. You'll stop others from suffering the same fate or worse.

[@h91rex100]

Right? That first victim has blood on his hands now for being so irresponsible and not telling anyone he survived an attempted kidnapping and murder and now someone else is dead because it.

[@peterjenkins7044]

Yea the first comment

[@KyriToe]

Snitches gets stitches

[@surprisesofjoyfulness8147]

Sometimes, people don't listen. I'm being stalked by an attempted murderer. I contacted police.They did NOTHING. So,yeah, telling someone doesn't always help😞😞

[@NewBuildmini]

@@surprisesofjoyfulness8147 Which police have you contacted so far? Is it your local PD/Sheriff's office? Contact the state police if they ignore you.

[@annakabradley5086]

No one beats mr ballens story telling. when looking for new content nothing even compares so I revert to Mr ballens old videos and re watch them. I feel like he’s a part of my life every day I listen to him on my way to work and the way home. Seriously don’t know what I would do without him he truly adds to my life. I appreciate you so much

[@AppalachianHistoryDetectives]

I remember hearing about this and thinking it was such a bizarre case but you Mr Ballen bring so much detail into it it’s like we are right there in the experience. You are a great Storyteller.

[@pepironi992]

Great storyteller ? The video is almost identical to the channel “this is monsters”. Mr balls a content is getting stale

[@SugardNIce]

@@pepironi992 you’re right by saying almost identical. As I was listening I was think that I’d heard this exact same story before. I was kind of let down by that.

[@pepironi992]

@@SugardNIce content getting so stale and unoriginal Remember when he used to be really good ?

[@jayeshyadav8891]

Hi John! Story Recommendation here: The Bhopal disaster, also referred to as the Bhopal gas tragedy, was a gas leak incident on the night of 2-3 December 1984 at the Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India. It is considered among the world's worst industrial disasters. Over 500,000 people were exposed to methyl isocyanate (MIC) gas. The highly toxic substance made its way into and around the small towns located near the plant.

[@mahera2877]

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[@Forgiveiolord]

@Tommy Gaming 🅥 Mr ballen watching the movie we weren’t supposed too watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGrVampnrLeAmbM

[@MrBallen]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@everybodyclapyohands]

@@MrBallen you just replied so fast

[@j-brock7298]

This is crazy I had just read about this storytheothwr day

[@Mangeen]

Tip: Don't meet people you don't know unless it's somewhere you *know* there'll be strangers. It's shocking some people still haven't worked this one out.

[@stephenc2481]

One exception, if you see plastics covering the walls and furniture, then you know the person is tidy. You should definitely crawl under the slightly open garage and compliment how clean the person is... also, don't tell your friends and family where you are going. it is more romantic...

[@Mangeen]

@@stephenc2481 True

[@nellrussellstarving_artist1215]

Also, it's completely normal to scavenger hunt your date who isn't comfortable giving out their address, as opposed to... Idk... Meeting in a public place?

[@jashardwallington]

@@stephenc2481 😂😂😂😂

[@bongripskickflips8245]

Sadly common sense is becoming less common.

[@nobodygrinder5667]

Mr. Ballen I'm truly amazed, you must do a heavy amount of research, your stories are not only very interesting, and to include it you add such passion and entertaining. Thank you for story telling. Strangely enough I have not only learned much but I have new appreciation to stories..

[@sivetn8663]

The strange directions were already sketchy, the date could've suggested to meet at a public place if she wasn't comfortable sharing her address on the app. The dark garage would've been the last straw for me I don't know if I'm just paranoid or I've watched too many of Mr Ballen's videos🤣

[@svampebob007]

yeah because that was giving "her" address with extra steps.

[@FrostySumo]

It is good to be wary whenever you meet a stranger. If I sell something I want to meet in public. Never used a dating app but I would think the same rules apply. Catfishing is a weird thing. I have a social anxiety disorder so the thought of meeting someone for a date I didn't know is terrifying. I'm already anxious when I meet someone to sell them something.

[@mattd8700]

Yep, immediate alarm bells,with the directions.

[@kimeye9872]

You're not paranoid. We shouldn't ignore our instincts.

[@jaymesnin]

Take a weapon. Tell someone exachtly where your going. If you dont let them know your ok within a certain period of time to call the police. Maybe keep your phone on speed dial to emergency services too with an address you can immediately give.

[@doodlebob-t1t]

the way you tell stories is amazing, most people usually spoil the ending before they even begin the events

[@marlenathorvald]

I've heard this story before but the way you tell a story makes it so captivating that I can listen to it like it's a new story. You truly have a gift of story telling.

[@James-vn8zb]

I recently watched a video on KZbin about this guy and now I can't remember where. Are you talking about the same video or did you hear about it somewhere else?

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@James-vn8zb Not sure where else the op saw it but I believe I saw it on Top 5s or one of their Patreon uploads. But I agree with the OP about how you haven't really heard a story until Mr. Ballen tells it!

[@rebeccathorning4068]

I also remember hearing this story on KZbin!

[@lorireed8046]

What I got out of this ? Men are everyone's enemy. Holy crap!!!! Sadly men don't get enough compliments nor enough attention. This needs fixed !!! Men need attention. I'm sorry this needs changed.

[@James-vn8zb]

@@audreymuzingo933 After I wrote this comment, I noticed they showed a dramatization of the guy getting away by rolling out of the garage. The credit was to True Crime Daily. I have a feeling that's where I saw it. Mr. Ballen had a lot of things that weren't in that story, but he also left out a lot. He totally left out the killers wife who had caught him on the dating site among other things.

[@roseotterdavidson]

I have been in three dozen true crime TV shows (IDTV, Oxygen, etc.) and none of them come close to being as fascinating, or as well told as anything Mr. Ballen does!!! I love your story telling, and sometimes I fall down the rabbit hole, and I watch for way too long at night lol.

[@hayyopeople]

I can say with out a doubt that dexter would not only be disappointed in this guy, but would also absolutely target him and Kill him in his own garage. 100%. Also poor Giles going through all that and being ashamed to tell anyone… broke my heart.

[@S.Lash5150]

I anticipate these stories each week. I miss the old days with 4 or 5 per week, but we all have lives, and I'll take what I can get from MrBallen! This was one of the crazier stories for sure, the more relatable they are to life, the more they freak me out.

[@ms.direct9712]

That was a great story! Honestly it’s such a compliment that the script was sent to you. Just validates what you do even more. All hail the flannel, baseball capped storyteller!

[@normturner4849]

It wasn’t sent to him. He said he found an unredacted copy.

[@teannking]

It never ceases to amaze me how your stories raise my respiration and heart rate. Excellent work and thank you for your service!

[@lesflynn4455]

I've heard this story told on podcast before, but never from the angle of the script the cops found on Twitchell's laptop. This was by far the most entertaining. Nice work John.

[@letsplaysoccer1338]

Same

[@IamLinda_]

Holy hell that's insane! It's sad that those guys didn't just arrange to meet somewhere in public. No real woman would invite a stranger over to her house.

[@louiselill1528]

Or would they depends if they are a serial killer

[@jacobmccain8082]

You arent familiar with dating apps then. Although back then, yeah totally sketchy.

[@Sadaqa4Janaza]

Red Flag! 🚩

[@HeidiSue60]

Right? Why would anyone go to a stranger’s house? Meet at the restaurant or better yet, a coffee shop. In the afternoon, not at night. During a semi busy hour so there’s lots of people around.

[@ebonih7138]

The garage covered in plastic should’ve been a NO GO sign.

[@gabebruner2338]

Posted a minute ago,and this many ppl were literally waiting for it….this proves how great this guy is

[@MrBallen]

Thank you!

[@mmhBread_23]

I love this guy so much, this video popes up on my feed and I was shocked that he has videos that I didn’t watch yet😂 God damn I can’t wait for the graphic novel

[@geographicoddity9444]

I’d heard this story before, but I was STILL sitting on the edge of my seat, like it was the first time. How do you do that? You are an extremely talented storyteller. Thanks for sharing that talent.

[@audreymuzingo933]

Yeah Mr. Ballen does a lot of stories I've heard before, but each time I realize 'No, I hadn't REALLY heard this one before.'

[@fewhite100]

I would swear HE told this story before, though I didn't know about the previously successful fanfic film, or that his script put the cops onto him. That tells me it wasn't him that originally told it. Regardless, Mr.B's is always better.

[@theoneandonlyawesom1]

made me cry. this happened to 2 men that just innocently were looking for love and thats what they got, RIP to Johnny

[@dannyspelman1468]

First one isn't a man.

[@AK-mz9yk]

​@@dannyspelman1468what??

[@dannyspelman1468]

@@AK-mz9yk A man would take responsibility and report it to the police so that another man doesn't suffer.

[@theonlineanimal6009]

​@@dannyspelman1468dude survived a serial killer. Pretty sure that makes him more of a man than you

[@dannyspelman1468]

@theonlineanimal6009 That is quite possibly the dumbest comment I have ever read.

[@Viking215]

The Government: “This story can never get out. Destroy all traces that it ever existed.” Mr. Ballen: “AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!”

[@muffinland8660]

I listened to the Gilles one with my hands literally over my mouth. Jesus Christ, this dude's got a gift for storytelling.

[@jatheenasillick4545]

The way this guy tells his stories is like actually being there. I even felt the adrenaline while he was telling us about the first guy

[@caitlincourtepatte2260]

Agreed, he is by far the best for this kind of content.

[@awaywithwords9650]

Ikr! It was an intense story to hear; told intensely by an intense narrator. Intense!

[@ingridgustavsson3012]

Agreed! Me too!

[@dbyspae122]

@@awaywithwords9650 wow that was an intense comment intensified by the amount of intense of the intensity wow that was intense

[@awaywithwords9650]

@@dbyspae122 ¡ I N T E N S E !

[@urmaker]

This case is INSANE!

[@John6298]

Urmaker bro you and Ballen need to do a Collab

[@Didnt_ask69]

It’s also been covered by numerous other channels. Disliked

[@John6298]

@@Didnt_ask69 and?

[@robynsmith4164]

Hey Urmaker! I’ve been a longtime fan and Subscriber. I absolutely LOVE the “Real 911 Calls - With Backstories”series you have been making the last couple years, they just get better and better! (Wow! Your first “Real 911 Calls” series started right around THREE years ago! Time flies!) I also LOVE how you throw your opinion in there about how much of a POS many of these people are! I ALWAYS see you in the comment section on SO MANY different channels I watch too. Great minds think alike! 😁 Keep up the amazing work, I ALWAYS look forward to your newest upload! I hope that you and your loved ones are staying happy and healthy Urmaker! Love from Texas ♥️🤠🌴

[@Sn_da_1st]

So is mark

[@americanv5107]

Man, this really is the true crime saga. First we had the seal team saga, then the ghost saga, then in between here and there we had odd places and missing reports. Now we have the thriller of crime. Absolute masterpiece MrBallen. Personally, I loved the ghost stories a bit more than anything else, but the way that the stories are told just gets me hooked

[@aleksalex1590]

I am tottaly into ghost stories,and i also love all of Mrballen videos..especially the ones about ghosts and creatures...However i also know some of the great stories told on the one amazing channel that lets real eye witnesses tell their story,that story really stuck with me as one of the best ones ever... If you are interested i can tell you the name of that youtube video

[@ryanhill970]

@@aleksalex1590 i would love the name of the KZbin channel

[@brittanypurdy8529]

This is my favorite case! It’s so crazy that people almost wouldn’t believe it. Whenever I talk about this to someone, they think it’s just a bad movie idea. They always look it up and I love it!!!

[@tomind5784]

This story is a great example of how you should not trust anyone on the web

[@rocketamadeus3730]

So I *should* trust *everyone* on the web.

[@333-u9o]

Uhm - I believe serial killers were even more successful before the internet. It's a common but weird way of thinking - Some person you meet at church or wherever seems safe to you, might be as evil as you'd expect an internet acquaintance to be 😏

[@BillCipher_OG]

2000: don't trust random people, don't get in a strangers car. 2020: talk to random people (uber drivers) and get in their cars.

[@parisinthe30sx]

It's sad that someone could be so lonely that they would follow sketchy directions like that just to meet someone. Poor people. I can't believe he didn't go to the cops nor that the couple didn't at least call the cops. Both would have saved lives. I don't get how "she"didn't want to give her address but directions to her house anyway? That's a red flag

[@xoxohonesty]

well to be fair the directions led to the back door, you can’t tell where some actually lives just by their garage or back door

[@mecaka9077]

I think it was framed as "I'm afraid of my data getting phished or our convos being read by others somehow because I don't trust this site so rather than give you my address or phone number here's some weird instructions to follow instead". Which is still a red flag in my opinion, it would be easier on them both to just meet in public

[@aistirsplace3074]

A HUGE red flag

[@marklower007]

This was a fictional script tho

[@xXTwigManXx]

@@marklower007 You clearly did not understand the story lmao. It wasn't just a script, it was real. The guy wrote what was happening irl into his script

[@JakeTheVikingFranklin]

This might have been the cruelest prank on the like button ever.

[@sibsss3362]

ikr he must have been so mad

[@NommyMcNomms]

that button had it coming

[@InTrancedState]

No that was you being born to your parents

[@cyusayann7866]

Can’t understand why he didn’t like this one

[@frog9499]

jake?!?!??

[@charlierenwick3682]

That part about Gilles in the garage was the most stressful and tense to be listening to, I was completely expecting him to eventually be caught but then he kept fighting, and so many parts I thought that 'this is it' but he actually manages to escape. The most amazing experience I had on this channel. Keep up the good work Mr Ballen!

[@karenfisher3904]

Dexter didn't "lure" his victims anywhere-- he ambushed them with a syringe full of animal tranquilizers. He targeted other murderers, not innocent strangers looking for a hook up online. This guy wouldn't be Dexter, he would be one of Dexter's victims.

[@systeminwhichtheviolenceis4693]

Calm down there karen.

[@sherrikinney6633]

lol

[@delilasloan8914]

I agree

[@nettewashn4272]

@@systeminwhichtheviolenceis4693…Lol

[@JamesSmullins]

Yup, the only thing dexter about this is the kill room, everything else is anti dexter and thus would be the target of dexter. But I don't think that Mark was actually trying to imitate dexter outside the kill room, killers killing killers doesn't drive fear or real suspense in movies but doing it to innocent people and with such a common thing as dating sites would have made for a great horror suspense type film. Didn't need that reality part to get there though. It would also be interesting to see the writers of dexter use this story, given how dexter is often conflicted with admiring a killers work with stopping the killer having someone use his exact methods of evidence prevention and killing would create a very interesting multifaceted plot over several episodes. Dexter was one of those shows that was well written, maybe too well written as it covered the mental and physical issues in pretty good detail as if the writes were writing about their own fantasy and mental illness. Just not taken it to the level mark did.

[@uptownqtee40]

Poor Johnny. He had several opportunities to save his own life. He knew it wasn't a normal situation but he was thinking with the wrong head.

[@areebasyed2469]

ikr he could have hit Mark with the metal bar that he grabbed from him!!!

[@baconscoobysnacks3135]

​@@areebasyed2469 he didn't grab it from him, he just had a hold of it. The other guy still had a hand on the pipe too

[@areebasyed2469]

@@baconscoobysnacks3135 ohhh sorry my bad thank you for telling 😁

[@rambles06]

Confirmation bias

[@axolotltheories]

He was thinking with his groin

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

The only way I've ever felt these roller coaster type of emotions has been from watching well made films until now. Bravo to you Mr. Ballen for being the BEST story teller of all - time!

[@seven6590]

@POCCAHONTA,,,, 👇😘 Thanks, I needed that.

[@annakabradley5086]

This is next level how did he get the script..? I audibly gasped and said no way out loud. Mr ballen is a beast

[@Dacept]

Can't think of a better way to start the Saturday off. Keep up the great work!

[@yosephmayfield8]

So true, this is such a treat.

[@MrBallen]

Thank you!

[@ibanheadhunter8317]

Yoo its Dacept. Wassup man.

[@muhammadabubaker5209]

Bruh it’s nighttime

[@TheFirstAirbender1036]

wait saturday just starts in ur place?? in india its 7:52 pm

[@gypsymoon710]

14:00....The fact that so many people DON'T call 911 at times like these where they should and yet we live in a society where people have the police called on them just for looking different and breathing in the wrong neighborhood....is a conundrum that is wrecking my mind right now.

[@mystic95]

@222blu Your thought is possibly right since Mark was inspired by Dexter. Killing an innocent is unacceptable/would be pretty pathetic. The guy being too embarrassed to report it is a ridiculous claim.

[@semperfidelification]

@222blu Karma is a Sanskrit word used by Hindus. It does NOT mean what you think it means. Only in the West could we take a beautiful idea and turn it into shit.

[@Jenacide]

Oh please

[@Jenacide]

Lawl, of course you follow just about every far left nutcase propagandist there is. Figures.

[@h.cedric8157]

if you are a woman, help will arrive fast. Not if you are a man. And why is it society demands men to be alert and protective, but at the same time, incentivize men to be effeminate and cast away their masculinity that allows them to be less alert and protective?

[@zwilliams1243]

I live in Edmonton and remember this case well. The loser first tried to burn Johnny's remain in a barrel but they wouldn't burn, which is why he ended up dumping them in the sewer. He also actually wanted to be a serial killer, but his hero Dexter 1: only killed serial killers and 2: knew how not to get caught. This goof failed miserably at concealing the blood. The police found blood splatter everywhere. I'm so glad he got caught after one kill, he wanted to kill more. I also feel nothing but unending compassion for Johnny, Giles, and the goof's daughter and ex wife.

[@kidz919]

Yeah its crazy how he wanted to be like Dexter and idolize him but his idol only killed serial killers. Not innocent people so if Dexter was real, he would've killed him. What an idiot. This is why I don't blame movies, tv shows, video games, or music on any of these crimes because it goes to show these people are out of touch with reality

[@unacceptablesisterpeter3431]

Where did you do your bit?

[@hunter.5625]

naw it’s somewhat johnny fault for being so stupid🤦🏽‍♂️ every reg flag in the book and he misses them all and because the first guys ego got messed up because he was catfished another dude died in same situation 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bekkaunknown3662]

@@hunter.5625 I agree that Johnny missed every red flag and even had that "20 minute" window to get out of there. Any woman alive would've realized that was way too sketchy and get out of there.

[@jinhunterslay1638]

How did Dexter not get caught?

[@sarajd2055]

this is one of the many reasons why ive vowed to never use a dating website

[@JUNIORsMomma]

I met my fiance and father of my beautiful son through an online dating site but it took me months of talking to him and using video chat before I agreed to meet and when I did, I used a public place. A pub that was usually frequented by people I knew and I told him to bring a friend. My friends that were there hung out with us. My sister was working at a restaurant across from the pub and also came over. It ended up being a giant group/ night out. Super fun and I was never in a vulnerable situation. I met up with him in a group setting a few more times before letting my guard down.

[@call_me_mad1236]

Its as easy as talking on video prior to meeting, and meeting in a public space

[@StyleOverPolitics]

Imagine if the guy that lured these guys to the garage lured another serial killer and they both tried to kill each other 💀

[@tammyheck3986]

Wouldn't that be something?

[@ruthiekest3218]

It we'll be liked Jason vs Michael Myers

[@bovinityleak2066]

Its gotta happen someday with all the predators online!

[@elijahsesi4755]

😅 I'd love to hear that story on MrBallen

[@bzzz5276]

When unstoppable force meets an immovable object

[@curtthechameleon]

I felt like I was the one in the garage fighting the killer. Damn dude, your an amazing storyteller.

[@kjkalways8470]

👍Same!!💯!!

[@UzumakiKhanHOKAGE]

If Drugs Was A KZbin a Channel, This Would Of Been It, So Addictive.

[@MrBallen]

🤘🤘🤘

[@Forgiveiolord]

Mr ballen watching the movie we weren’t supposed too watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGrVampnrLeAmbM

[@sticksnstonespatriot1728]

💯✔Agreed. This would be the "heroin channel"

[@viggycat8592]

Don't worry, it's good to be addicted to Mr. Ballen! 👍

[@I.pray.to.George.Carlin]

💯 FACTS

[@nuclear_nikkie]

I have to say, I've been watching all of your videos the past few days and I love your storytelling. I love writing and making up stories, and I love seeing someone do it so well to so many!! Love your content!

[@gregbacon819]

Great story Mr. B, as usual! As a fan of the Dexter series, I wanted to point out a glaring difference here. Mark is an evil person who randomly murdered an innocent man and attempted murder on another man. Dexter’s character was a mentally disturbed serial killer who followed a code of targeting only killers. He was an extreme vigilante, who would have killed a person like Mark.

[@PathIsntReal]

And what exactly disqualifies Mark from being mentally disturbed?

[@atimidbirb]

@@PathIsntReal Good point, they were alike in that.

[@brightlight3520]

But Mark didnt have a code or only target known killers. Dexter went through the paces to be sure he had the right person

[@stephenholmes5751]

I read the devils cinema years ago which is a book about Mark. I was living in Edmonton at the time. I started recognizing street names while I was reading before realizing it happened in Edmonton. It was a good read. You actually tell it better, and you had a lot of information not in the book. Love your videos. Take care.