"THE REAL MANDELA PASSED AWAY IN PRISON." - PENUEL THE BLACK PEN

[@mercuriaazalieu6335]

The Great Pen... You are a Leading voice in Our Country. Thank You for the Truth, and awakening, educating the minds. People are Hungry for Truth. Your Guidance is so important.

[@xkcreatedd]

Shout out to the production crew, love the quality and direction here. Also awe Penuel

[@rishongileshikwambani8215]

It’s amazing!

[@YungKGDaExRapper]

This def has to be the best pod currently not the gossip thts been going on

[@Young_TanaMera]

Yeah ish i don't like those agents sent to dumb down the people on gossip

[@YungKGDaExRapper]

@@Young_TanaMera talk about real agents thy kinda fooled us at the beginning and sold us a black excellence story

[@thembisibanyoni4435]

People they do different things

[@YungKGDaExRapper]

@@thembisibanyoni4435 yeah u right

[@ipostsongs5305]

100%

[@nuwagababaryamujura]

I'm a pan africanist and i love my south african brothers and sisters. I struggle to defend mandela . I personally think mugabe and robert sobukwe did more for the race than mandela . Mandela was an industry plant in my opinion .

[@ralphmakombe1735]

You couldn't have said it any better 👏🏿 💯 👌 my friend. Mandela was a puppet

[@nuwagababaryamujura]

@ralphmakombe1735 as a matter of fact lucky dube Did more for the race than mandela

[@theoneness1944]

So someone took him from eQunu to start a revolution of freedom, then sentence him to 27years and Then Make him the face of freedom and he agrees to go through all of that just to be celebrated after his death? Please make what you saying make sense and tell me what are you doing to tackle our current struggles?

[@nuwagababaryamujura]

@theoneness1944 I feel you mate . Mandela's journey might have been real ,no doubt about that . But the destination was not. And about what I'm doing , I just want to be able to help Africans (blacks) know our self-worth . If we figure it out and unite the rest will be history

[@ephraimseroto8388]

O maka .Mugabe killed Zim

[@asivemaphisa]

This podcast will take over the industry, but very lowkey🔥😤😤

[@ledwinmampho1861]

The fact that when EFF was formed it was signing the land song, and then changed the tune to borders, what is the use of being preoccupied with borders whilst the people behind those borders are foreigners in their own land? What will a borderless South Africa benefit a poor landless South African?

[@UnknownHuman2000]

When you stand for nothing, you waffle around looking to make issues out of nothing.

[@kingtutsirai994]

when africa unites we cannot be defeated. Ever!

[@ledwinmampho1861]

Coutries like Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, Lesotho are useless. They should unite and become teritories of South Africa. Maybe Botswana can merge with Zambia, Namibia and DRC.

[@cecilmahlaba9369]

Unfortunately you black people dont want LAND. You want MONEY.

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

EFF was fake from its inception, these were the very same corrupt ANCLY leaders, who then worked with Mazzotti, and they are, and picked up the the ideologies they hated and fought against for many years when they were in the ANC, thise of AZAPO and the PAC. They then got to get on the left of the ANC, filling a fake vaccum left by both the PAC and AZAPO. Otherwise they are political Gucci scammers, you trusted the young and advanced ANC produced scammmers in the red overalls.

[@ABlackbutterflyJ]

The spell. "Spelling" "Cursive" Shake the spell off. It's time to Rise and Shine. 🤴🏾👸🏾

[@mulambomediamusic]

We appreciate you so much

[@stevensamuels2488]

They celebrated Nelson Mandela for so many years yet they didn't know the truth about the whole thing

[@KirengaRodger]

Penuel u really challenge me, u really a god😂 Much love from Uganda 🇺🇬

[@phillipkleopas7230]

Calling another human a god is unheard of.

[@selfimprovementmbuyim7658]

I attest to this, my personal experience with watching Penuel has literally changed my life

[@KirengaRodger]

@@phillipkleopas7230 #inpenuelismwebelieve

[@Aeon1019]

​​@@phillipkleopas7230EL, is the last initials of his name - EL = Elohiym [a deity] or better yet PenuEL = the FACE of a deity]

[@emmanuelmanxoba6265]

You must be the devil

[@bafanamamojele2153]

100% my brother preach his good with information bcos people they don't see.

[@ABC-ho5jo]

I don't agree with you on some things but this is frighteningly accurate my brother. Follower from Malawi

[@SmisoRadebe]

Mandela was a Knight of Malta he was working for Prince Charles of Wales , nothing will change this people are grommed since childhood to be this politicians

[@smr4712]

yes true

[@LUXURYOFYAHWEHELOHIM]

I knew it One day people will catch up on your podcast and it will be the Biggest after this Episode.

[@KashflowTube]

This is the first time he has actually grabbed my attention without the gimmicks... An issue worth looking into. We need to look at our issues without putting race first cos after race it will be tribalism. Let's look at it our issues as nation that has been wronged and address this issues without the notion of retaliation but with the essence of find a solution that puts into a better future as one nation that wants peace, progress and a better future for our future generations.

[@bathenebuthelezi1614]

Government will always play race card or apartheid when they have failed and running from accountability.

[@yangasidziya3245]

Uyaphupha, race first before anything else

[@siyasamente9590]

The Mandela Effect quote is why I'm here

[@AGirlNamedVan]

😂lol same

[@mthobisimzelemu65]

Me too

[@ChildOfChrist84]

the mandela effect means something that we thought that has happened but never really happened for example the moon landing.

[@MrNangambi]

Mbudziso ndi nnzhi adzina phindulo. Very awakening questions

[@letsbehomiz1549]

Funny thing is the people who went to Robben island with Rholihlahla who by the way appointed him as the face of the ANC never once said he was not the same man they did time with.

[@AffectionateBowtieCat-dg4uy]

Exactly lack of knowledge...was Jesus White😂😂

[@KudaMlambo4real]

27 years in prison?? Imagine if it was you will you last 2 years ? I have much respect for Mandela cant imagine a life without my kids, my family, my life for such a long time

[@esilevinichronicles4269]

Not withstanding the fact that the balance of forces were hugely stacked against the ANC at that time. Those who look beyond the rhetoric will get my drift

[@IonizedComa]

​@esilevinichronicles4269 it could have easily led to a genocide on either side if we had a far left radical liberator.

[@RSVPrr]

​@@IonizedComa no such thing as a liberstor

[@Takesure-hn9en]

And after 27yrs then you give out 80% of the land to very few people and your own people live in a cage

[@harryblack460]

Weaklings. No respect for someone who sold us out

[@tizzot21]

that Markhams Hit...IT HIT DIFFERENT.

[@teddyrakhomo4789]

Thank for this, very impressive

[@endlessblisswithgnk]

lol his right I grew up knowing that it use to be called Markhams not “Markham” damn this simulation is funny lol 😂

[@kamogelomathibela9210]

I wrote a Research paper at the University of free State about the land issue last year. Its insane how black people don't understand how those apartheid land acts affect them today.

[@SuperChinwag]

Can we read it?

[@top-gnews8333]

We understand it's bad that's why EFF is important but unfortunately not understood

[@callingrantham2553]

Link us to the paper please

[@mananammalegae]

Kopa link to your research 🙏🏽

[@pumlabrook-thomae1301]

Patiently waiting for the link to your paper. Thanks in advance.

[@thapelokemaatla_24]

Tata Mandela did what he could under those circumstances, long live Nelson Mandela

[@JabulaniMathuthu]

No. He sold out

[@mbongenichokochela1865]

Me I say what alternatives did he have????

[@hugueskanda2785]

Good question I wander what others people would do in his place

[@BusaniBruceKhumalo]

Have you met this guy personally?????....the coolest respecting and very humble soul,may God protect you always THE BLACKPEN.❤❤❤❤

[@BelieveInMiracles888]

@KONVO Penuel I love your content - your willingness to be vulnerable takes a lot of courage. I am sorry that people just don't listen to the full context of what you are saying and jump to conclusions and become personal. It's their own loss they will be controlled and brain washed until they F King wake up!!!!!!

[@n.m6249]

Great content man, please keep speaking out for our people.

[@LUXURYOFYAHWEHELOHIM]

Speak about It. The Truth they don't want to hear. Not "Partying and Gossips"

[@wisemansihlemeyiwa4218]

I have never seen the so called Mandela as a freedom fighter struggle wasn't about one man

[@AmoMoëti]

You can call Nelson Mandela a sellout all you want but some of us benefited from liberation of utata and today we went to school and we have companies and democracy (speak for myself) but some black people chose to rely on politicians for freebies.

[@kabeesa-topic5880]

🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝

[@JohnathanMakowa-sl8od]

That sounds more emotional then sensible because government has factors of influence to which can benefit and disadvantage its people but the trick to that is the beneficial factors are the cause of disadvantage hence concepts such as inequality and poverty exist and to say people are waiting for free things is tj be a hypocrite because we are living artificially in most senses everything isnt running with the law that is but the law that was made bscause we all exist with innate laws we choose to abide to but with enough influence from outside we break those laws hence why some cultures can be similar but look entirly different so basically what im trying to sum is you dont exist alone you exist with others a perspective that comes from broken innate laws is a perspective that only soothes your non existing ego to as though make it feeo secure for being selfish or hateful towards the existence of yourself and others

[@NtobekoMorwebi]

Because politics is like God, they can fix all the problems that people are facing

[@sisa-mandladla5175]

The problem starts as soon as you say "some of us"....sit down chief😏

[@siphelelezungu9781]

Man u Gay 4 saying dat it's like u in denial coz he died

[@GameTImePodcast_SA]

Amazing Production!

[@MongeziPeter]

I swear, I swear to God - the Monopoly man HAS a monocle..I swear I've seen him with the monocle many times before!..I grew up playing Monopoly every weekend.

[@theconsigliere6329]

Get Wandile on the Pod he's my younger brother. He will give us facts on the land issue.

[@53ns3i]

People shouldnt be told what to think, they need to be taught how to think for themselves. That way we can avoid bias and gripes all together. Self education is sadly not something many do.

[@markstemmett5296]

I wish it was called evil monopoly capital because that is what it is

[@btheartist6897]

Penuel is just different man.

[@53ns3i]

Its called self education. If more black people tried it, maybe they wouldnt be so quick to buy into easily debunked bullshit crammed down their throats by radical militants taking advantage of ignorant wounded people just to attain position, for their own selfish gains.

[@AndreCillie]

In flippen love you brother : thank you for being brave !! It’s our time

[@edutainment946]

Panuel, it's either you stand for something or you stand for Nothing, sometimes am just confused what are you representing

[@thabangnkgapele1017]

The truth

[@MANDISIManakele-jx8hq]

​@@thabangnkgapele1017what truth.....this guy is very deluded.

[@ericnqobilengwenya9460]

That's true why he divorced Winnie immediately he was distancing himself so that Winnie won't exposed him 😂😂😂

[@edmundsishange3608]

BS🤣

[@Xtrillions]

Now that's " propaganda" lol

[@lulamelamdzula1715]

Winnie had moved on by that time most importantly they had difference's tata nelson Mandela wanted peace and Winnie wanted war and her war resulted in murdering many innocent lives by the label of impimpi....tata nelson Mandela didn't hid the fact that the ANC MISSION WAS TO CREATE EQUALITY then lended the POWER OF RULING TO THE BLACK PEOPLE WHICH IT IS NOW🤷🏾‍♂️

[@euginenyuswa4608]

Is this what u are talking about happening now? yona into ethi izwe elabantu abahleli kulo ibhadlile ? Uphi u Mandela owayelwela izwe labantu abamnyama ? Nijika n😢ithi kukhona bantu bangaphandle nibabize ngamagama abhlungu ngoba befananani. Nifukamele izitha ngoba zabulala omkhulu benu. Ninikela ngamagazi omkhulu benu mambuka. Kuyoninceda ukulanda isinyanya sika Tata Mandela ekele

[@letsbehomiz1549]

Winnie cheated SMH.

[@kagisogeorgebaloyi4710]

Pseudo intellectuals are actually the people we should be cautious of, like this guy over here.

[@bonginhlanhlangema7125]

And that would make you an intellectual? 😂 Post your thoughts publicly nawe and let’s see.

[@emmanuelmanxoba6265]

I didn't know that poetry still exists 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@KStheUrbanite]

Thank you 🙏🙏🙏

[@edwardsmall8865]

And if you question things they get upset. They treat you like the enemy.

[@inganathizwane3015]

Khoisan are also south African they also lost as much blacks are you must mention them people Khoisan are African Mapondo Bhaca Venda ect we really have our own historically that is really that must be reached

[@kennysonono7798]

Some parts of the large portion of the land that the descendants of illegal European emigrants inherited belongs the Khoi-San people. It is really embarrassing that even after 30 years of the so called "Independence" and "Freedom" none of the Khoi-San languages form part of the official languages in South Africa, not even after Thabo Mbeki claimed, in one of his SONA, to owe his being to the mountains, valleys and these great PEOPLE

[@ronaldwiley8357]

KHOISAN are the original indigeneous native people of Southern Africa encompassing South Africa and it,s neighbours.They are a people composed of many preBantu tribes who have been living in Southern Africa for over a hundred thousand years ,according to archaeological evidence, they were later joined by "blacks" Bantu , migrating down from the North, during the Bantu Expansion around 2500 -3000 years ago.During Apartheid ,Bantu people [Blacks] were given the classification "Natives" in order to disempower and DE-LAND the indigeneous people, the KHOISAN, a term the white man came up with to separate them from their Bantu neighbours.

[@ViginiaMolai]

​@@ronaldwiley8357 There's no such thing as original land of south Africa. Africa has no borders. In fact khoisans also migrated her too.

[@ronaldwiley8357]

@@ViginiaMolai study African history, the Khoisan were here thousands of years before anyone else.

[@kagisosekatane1228]

Ask yourself why steenhuisen comfortably a minister of agriculture 😅

[@vanessaG275]

Well done.

[@53ns3i]

Let me inform you that there has always been a land distribution program, it was just left to rot by the ANC, hence nothing ever came from it. The DA stated on many occasion that they intend to fix it and do what is right in a way that wouldn't screw up our economy, for the sake of a few butt hurt militants who dont seem to care for the consequences of their actions. Because we all know Zim did this, and people suffered. So you can be assured that Steenhuisen is not some white elitists trying to protect white assets because that is totally bull. Its an easy conclusion to make from the misinformation that already exits to sow doubt, and affirm the agendas of those like i said, have done and will do more damage in the name of a so called "revolution". Trust me, far smarter people than yourself are monitoring the situation and they will let people know what is happening. Such as this little bit of information ill share with you now. EFF instigators move into poor townships, and sell private bits of land for a few hundred rand a stand, and tell people to all move at the same time on a specific day, as to make it difficult for any authorities or locals to stop them. If they do fail, those people are left without homes or have to go back to where they came from, and the EFF instigators are nowhere to be found with hundreds of poor peoples money. Who tend to take out their anger on the locals in the area they swarmed instead of the EFF that sold them a lie.

[@SaganMr]

Why?

[@Rippa420-b6o]

democracy,that’s y

[@MatikiMcunu]

Only research can help,and don't trust everything and everyone

[@souldubafroculture1437]

Shout out to Pen and the crew

[@mcsifisok.luthuli4732]

Am glad the veil of secrecy is starting to roll up. Am glad young people are getting active to unearth the truth. Although this oldies are fighting hard to protect their failed struggle.

[@EricBornman]

Well said my man

[@nikelombambo]

"THE REAL MANDELA PASSED AWAY IN PRISON".. As black people we need to go back to not disrespecting the dead with headlines like this.. We could've easily discussed the exact same topic without this type of disrespect.

[@SimphiweNgcece]

I agree totally with your comment.

[@outclasstours1342]

That is not true.

[@GK222_]

Gibson Makanda is the man we saw in 1994 with his arm raised walking next to Winnie Mandela

[@SibusisoHlophe-dp5lq]

Your dad.

[@VuyaniNube-rk5mm]

I thought you were gonna talk about Mandela theory

[@paulmlambo5095]

Ahhhaaa we doing real talk here my brother

[@falcortheboy]

Truth in the intro

[@nathanjosephalard]

This is not true... looking at the land audit report along with the consensus report

[@JohnTerblanche-l1r]

Consensus as in nr of people in Sa? Because that hasnt been done correctly since 2012 and even then it was difficult cause of crime, rural living, lack of resources to do it properly.

[@nathanjosephalard]

@user-kk4lw4mr6i taking history into consideration, i dont believe there's ever been an accurate consensus, though its necessary to differentiate between consensus and unanimity; 100% correct or not, how much would it construe the numbers and proportions ?

[@theyntlykus]

The Mandela Effect.

[@luvuyoshinga8291]

Perfect ending 👌

[@NkosinathiDlamini-nc4np]

lets protect people like Pen guys

[@skwattakamppodcast]

I did mention this 2 years ago on one of my episodes and i was criticized and told that i don't have facts about it, I'm glad there are people who see it exactly how i see it, i thought i was naive.

[@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou]

All this nonsense in the prisons,yet lamola walks away into another comfy sofa, surely we can't let this happen.

[@zombedube6053]

Where were you at that time or someone feeds you that

[@MotlokwaThwii]

It's farmland indeed. Now, with that said, its still not sustainable for 72% of farmland to be in the hands of the minority Pen. The forced removals ensured that Africans settled on infertile dry lands. Farmlands are just as inportant, if not more, as residential land. Our biggest problem as a people is that we can't feed ourselves as a direct result of that stat. Land owned by SANRAL, for example, can only be used for roads and nothing else. That farmland is arguebly the most important

[@XPR2019]

Couldn’t have said it better, it seems like he doesn’t understand the fundamental problem we have here which is we don’t have workable land not just any land.

[@DakaloMooi_05]

​@@XPR2019did you watch the full 90 min video thus clip was taken from. If you did watch you will see that he does indeed understand the issue very well in fact much more than those that constantly " discuss" it. Nit only does he understand tge issue he also provides possible solutions

[@gsmfrp4995]

These man he open our ears thruth is coming slowly slowly hidden secreat are coming

[@tagresk]

yoh brah, i need to know more

[@siyahdube3127]

THE QUESTION IS WHY WE CELEBRATE 67 Minutes FOR MANDELA DAY... WHAT DOES THIS 67 STANDS FOR BECAUSE THE HOUR IS 59 minutes... But this 67 have a dark secret that we not supposed to know about... But keep on celebrating it... "Confusing right"

[@BavuyiseNohabuza]

Thanks to Mandela for being a sellout bcz today we are not like Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Swaziland, Zambia, Somalia,and other more African Countries some of these countries are suffering bcz they didn't do what tata did...he chose peace instead of dying and poverty and we own a huge land in this country as black people bt the problem we don't know how to use the land

[@yangasidziya3245]

This is the saddest comment I've ever seen, Your IQ makes me ashamed to be black

[@kagisogeorgebaloyi4710]

You say we shouldn't trust history books, but you referencing from those very same history books

[@53ns3i]

Im sure you know the phrase, history is written by the victor. True we can only speculate on the authenticity of what we read, but it does not mean you are wasting your time. Spend enough of it learning about history, understanding people and society, youll have gathered a large pool to draw similarities and consistencies to spot falsehoods and truths. Pen already does this, youd understand his reasons better if perhaps you did the same. Because your comment sounds like the kind of words youd see from someone who is used to being told what to think, rather than knowing how to think, for themselves. If you were even aware of that, if not, your welcome.

[@2725goodnews]

​@@53ns3iagreed

[@thabochauke4052]

So which one "sold us out" the real one or the fake one?

[@PeachyPreachie]

Yes, Its true about the REAL MANDELA. I knew this some yrs ago.

[@edmundsishange3608]

🤣🤣🤣

[@siphamandlacele3349]

To those who can have the gall to call others sell outs,what liberties have you given up to fight the injustices black people face TODAY?! Ill wait for an answer..even if it means it will never come

[@Motshabi_08]

Co-ask

[@ayandakakana2367]

Yeah this story is making rounds.

[@mljcombrink8484]

GROW UP...WINNIE VISITED MANDELA OFTEN AND WOULD KNEW IF HE HAD "DIED" STOP THE HATE ...WE ARE ALL CREATED BY GOD ...!

[@theunknowndj331]

I respect Mandela

[@Scar_7.62]

The liars that say Mandela died in prison should have informed he's lifelong friend Ahmad Katrada 😢

[@madeitthroughentertainment1658]

Now this guy is starting to become crazy.

[@selebogokhune]

You can't even trust your own memory wow

[@matthewvanrensburg3824]

Another thing. That audit is about registered land, official, per title deeds, not about ALL land in South Africa. What about including the amount of land in South Africa that ISN'T registered.

[@Nzeenzi]

Penuel will open ur mind. QuestionTHEnorm

[@XPR2019]

I’m here to tell you: you are talking bs bro

[@kongowea9903]

Head line is something that I've been researching, and I have found it to be true. Especially being that I have lived in America and has had so many rewritten history that was orchestrated by the CIA. Hence the Mandela effect !!

[@eldernhone3809]

Penuel if you realy read 1984 by Orwell, u might also have read "Animal Farm" witch for me blacks shoud pay attention to.

[@Bhiza-k7f]

Totalitarialism also leads to autocratic governance. People should not give government an absolute power also with reference to 1984 by George Owen

[@KhanIrfan-qt8cn]

Thanks

[@nduzuma4101]

Gibson Makhanda is a Zimbabwean 😢meaning SA owe d Makhanda family answers😢plus why chase Zimbabweans away ,if they must leave dn they should b given d Makhanda buried in Eastern Cape.

[@sharon4christ957]

There's no such nonsense, you people like creating unnecessary drama, we know no Makhanda from Zimbabwe leave us out of your nonsense

[@FamilysolutionSolution]

Truly spiking spik aloud

[@SimonMahlabane]

Anger causes the black majority particularly the frustrated over slow economic changes become despondent.

[@vusinhleko861]

Show facts baba

[@lithagazi]

So you did not Believe Holomisa when he was seated next to you

[@nxuma]

Where that 72 % is farm land or not fact remains blacks whe re dispossessed of their land reaidential and farm land from soweto to Free state to Cape town .. all over and was done by apartheid law .. this are incidents that occured.. and we need to correct this.. Penual thinks he too smart than the rest of south Africa..

[@UnknownHuman2000]

Indian and Coloured people were dispossed too. They got together and worked hard instead of playing victim and waiting for government aid, they left the past in the past and made changes to their lives.

[@nxuma]

​@@UnknownHuman2000Indians are not indigenous to Africa this incident I spoke about didn't affect them. coloured were treated as 2nd class Nd far better than Africans.. fact remains stolen property still remains in the oppresors hands and needs to be return. I can steal your car Nd expect to make peace without you returning my car ​@UnknownHuman2000

[@RSVPrr]

​@@UnknownHuman2000the colored people in the Cape Flats?

[@MarkHutchinson-ry9sz]

Mandela spent about two weeks at Robben island.

[@DENNISMARTINTOPKIN-fz6ie]

Stop thinking for people let individuals make own decision stop thinking for our society

[@chabimas4248]

The Markham name isn't a Mandela effect. It was indeed Markhams then it got rebranded to Markham in 2004

[@neermalapillay8016]

U making a great mistake to pick on Mandela he was no fake unlike presenter like you

[@Thephenix2.0]

Why would they not just say Mandela died in jail if he did?

[@matsiemokoena8492]

That's y he married Mashele cos they from same country 🤣🤣🤣

[@KillmongerWasRight45]

Since history is recorded from the victors pov...Then consider this... who really won at the end of aparteit... then look at recorded history and ask yourself who benifitted the most from this version of history...And if this is the case what about other accounts...say for example black people sold other black people

[@smr4712]

the Oppeneimers and Johanne Rupert with the angloamerican zionist masters.

[@Januarieswealth.]

Lol where do you think the Mandela effect comes from

[@53ns3i]

The human condition. Our own minds are not dead accurate as one might think, it fills in the gaps when it lacks sufficient information. This is a very short answer, but good enough id say. The Mandela Effect itself was a term coined by a woman named Fiona Broome, a paranormal researcher of a kind.

[@pgfputgod1st]

💎🎯🇿🇦💯

[@ericmzilankatha4166]

That's true the real Nelson Mandela was killed in prison year 1985 @ the age of 67 henceforth the 67 minutes of Madiba the fake one who was released in Feb 1990 was Gibson Mkanda who only spoke English language he never knew Xhosa

[@Rippa420-b6o]

Did you eat your 💩 this morning cos you talking shit

[@malumeaphe3176]

whoever is paying you must be arrested😢😢

[@WilliamKhumalo-n8q]

True that's not Mandela that's Gibson Makanda

[@Thephenix2.0]

Mandela was the real mandala stop it....Mandela came out different bc jail changes uu dude