Penuel The Black Pen In Conversation with Ike Khumalo, Legal System, Jacob Zuma, Russia, Malema

[@PieterCoetzee-zl7ms]

As an Afrikaaner. I love this platform Thank u

[@coatknight]

So jy is lief vir die Godslastering en ongeloof?

[@khulekanimhlongo4210]

VOTE OUT THIS STEALING ANC AND EFF. WE GET OUR FREEDOM AT LAST FOREIGNERS MUST BE KICKED OUT

[@rexzietsman]

​@@coatknightai tog

[@llss3319]

@@coatknight goeie hene.

[@Big-Mouth81]

@coatknight Do you just latch onto one thing and miss all the other points being put across? If you're such a Christian why are you so quick to judge PieterCoetzee? I'm a Christian too and the Bible gives me the right to call you out on your sin if I'm without said sin! You should check yourself before you reck yourself! Oh and by the way, I love this platform too because it's informative! You going to judge me next? We're meant to be fishers of men, some you catch and they accept Christ! Others you catch and they deny Christ in which case you let them go unless God compels you with a calling to bring the word to that person, whether that person be traditional or an atheist!!

[@beverleyuntiedt1777]

This man speaks truth that hasn't been heard since 1994. He's rational, intelligent and real. I could listen to him for hours.

[@shafieisaacs-nf7zr]

Brave speaking like listening to you👍

[@zinhlendwalane7557]

The best thing is that he is not afraid to speak truth to power and we need these kind of people in this Country but unfortunately there are very few of these people

[@Big-Mouth81]

I agree with all three opinions shared and I'm in agreement, I could listen as well to Adv Khumalo for hours! I find him to be a very interesting, knowledgeable man and I'm in awe of him!! 💪💥🇿🇦🙏❤️

[@splineMerl]

😂😂😂😂I didn't know half truths were the truth. But ke, not everyone knows the difference.

[@judyjansevanvuuren4859]

There are countless black intelligent people worthy of leadership. Problem is that they are not in government. Love your podcasts Pen.

[@venussimo]

Are they really intelligent if they allow the stupid black to given them. Surely if those blacks are intelligent they would NOT allow the dumb blacks to govern. Greed is the problem with the blacks in this country.

[@mthunzinhlapo8287]

This is so accurate man....and you can't help but wonder how??? There needs to be a huge shift in the world.

[@discopunkzero]

Indeed, you are right! No smart person (black or otherwse) with skills and amibitons goes into government in SA. Government is where people with no other options and positive qualities aside from political connections go.

[@platinumlarry8657]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@nomatembadumeduze9084]

Bi

[@mzekenamanjearistokasi6832]

The one problem I have with this interview is that it ended. Please bring Ike back.

[@tarynabdie5098]

one of the best, honest interviews I've heard in ages. Ike says it as it is!!!!

[@Lebesee]

I love this advocate. He's always sober minded. ❤

[@jayaramnair2097]

Very interesting conversation. Ike should run for office in SA. 👍🇨🇦

[@nathanielkgobe427]

That's exactly what I'm yearning, i call him laaitie e slim blind yase Kasi, to those who don't understand the lingo, i simply says, an intelligent young man from the ghettos (location) mark my words the likes of Adv Ike Khumalo, are the people who suppose to be in our Gvnment we need simple people like Dr Aron Motsoaledi, Bonang Mogale, Adv Dali Mpofu, Dr Nkosasana Dlamini Zuma, Dr Naledi Phando, Former Judge Mogoeng Mogoeng, and this guy who has just exposed ANC Leadership wanted 500m of UIF money that's a very honest guy, and God fearing, these are the key people who are totally not INSATIABLE not these greedy corrupt thieves in the ANC, i mean we tired of being silence especially being in the know of what is transpiring in our country. We've got good law abiding citizens in some political parties across the board, Africans and Whites who can't steal even a needle, but they are aloof scared to be killed, How i wish that one day we could have the same spirit of 1976, we stand up ones and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, We are no longer going to take it, allowing ourselves to be led by Morons who knows nothing about the Gvnment except good English, abo bari nje na noma oba bekile gu ma TV muntu wa khona athi oya khuluma oya ukhuthi lento e bari bari bari, a real JIM COMES TO JOBURG, sis man this is very disgusting, I'm now over 70 years of age, but i can see Ike and the rest of the guys highlighted above right in me, what he talks about hatred among your own people that's what I've been going through during the Apartheid regime, and Mangope came same even worse, now in the so-called new Gvnment, albeit having in the beginning tried to better most Africans Lives here and there also mine of course, but as we speak the way corruption and crime is so rampant and the prevailing Lawlessness even in the respectable house of Chieves here in Hammanskraal, everything good that was done in the early 90's and during Bophutatswana has been completely eradicated, BABELEGI INDUSTRIAL VANDALIZED everything everywhere is just falling apart, and when you speak you are threatened with death, Kgoshi himself would stand in a meeting and says, somebody will get lost (ketlomo timetsa) and no one will utter a word, I'll be the only one reprimanding him, and a hall with elderly Men and Women will be dead quiet, no support at all, here I'm talking about Africans only no White man in our communities, but u'll find your own people being the ones who hates you so much that they'll never greet you anymore, instead u'll receive phone calls threats, AFRICANS PLEASE I BEG YOU ALL LET'S REPENT AND LEARN TO TELL THE TRUTH AS IT IS, AND CALL A SPADE A SPADE, BEING SYCOPHANTIC LIKE WE WANT TO HAVE A SHARE OF CORRUPTION OUR LEADERSHIP ARE INVOLVED IN, IS NOT GOING TO MAKE US A BETTER PEOPLE, BUT A CORRUPT NATION WHICH IS A VERY ATROCIOUS LEGACY FOR THE GENERATION TO COME. PLEASE PEOPLE REPENT, WE ARE LIVING IN THE TIME OF THE END, JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HE IS COMING.

[@sonstous4692]

yes, he should run for some office. but he put himself down when asked with the "OLD" thing. With age comes wisdom, usually. Anyway, it's not about your age as much as with your health.

[@SimonSeekoei]

Wow, what a blessing to listen to a sane, confident black man

[@coatknight]

Dink jy regtig dis 'n seëning om na godslaterers (55min) en kommuniste (1h15) te luister?

[@mphomakatu1038]

Ike is the embodiment of an independent uncaptured thinker, I truly appreciate his unique perspective on various issues. Thanks for coming back to the show Mntungwa. Keep up the great work Pen and team.

[@GiftTrevor]

IKE is a pearl of wisdom. Love his honesty.🥳🙌🙌🙌🥳

[@M3l_0N666]

Be careful, only the wise recognize the wise. If your not one of them, you might as well be following a fool off a ciff. So be careful what you say.

[@GiftTrevor]

@@M3l_0N666 Has my comment offended you❓️

[@convo-spreaders]

How refreshing to hear someone cutting through the BS, and speaking the truth about everything that has gone wrong in this country. The ANC has failed every person of color in South Africa. Greatly admire these two brothers and what they have to say. Great stuff.

[@sifisomgaga9278]

I like to meet this guy I'm In Newcastle if i can get his contact please help me

[@Cjayxgaming]

Ok Penuel you've convinced me, i'm subscribing. I want to consume these kinds of conversations that call for black representation in the economy and the advancement of black people in general. Not complaining about apartheid but rather pushing our young people to make this part of the world better for other black people not just for their families.

[@intellifly747]

🏆

[@christinevandermerwe-gl2sm]

Yes and Bravo!!!!!

[@M3l_0N666]

Its starts by taking responsibility, then moving beyond the old ways, and then garnering respect through actions of innovation. So, you got a while to go, as too many of the majority cant follow law and regulation even, its fundamental to a productive society.

[@ScumbagKonflict]

What an absolute boss Ike Khumalo is. All he speaks is sense. I have nothing but the utmost respect for him.

[@taharka3897]

You really think so? He said apartheid was good such as the colonizers brought art. What the hell does white people know about art. He is an uneducated fool. When black people was building PYRAMIDS everyone else was living in caves.

[@vincentpandarum1854]

He is fair-minded and brilliant.

[@ArmchairCritic1]

True@@vincentpandarum1854

[@ArmchairCritic1]

Sure

[@llss3319]

So true! He talks sense.

[@morakaevans6905]

I like Advocate Ike Khumalo he is knowledgeable. Thanks Pen for bringing him back again 🙏🏾

[@ShaunJulies]

Love Ike's way of thinking. Pity the likes of him are in the minority in South Africa.

[@hopebuhali3887]

Maybe you've just not exposed yourself enough to the people of this country

[@M3l_0N666]

Doesnt help so many people are uneducated no thanx to the people they vote for. Had people actually listened to the warnings of others and voted out the ANC long ago and abolish radicals like EFF, wed have had a far more educated population, and debates like these, wouldnt even have existed to begin with, as there would have been no need.

[@ShaunJulies]

@@hopebuhali3887 There are about 60 million people in SA. This country would not be the way it is if the majority of the 60 million people had the same thinking as Ike. Hence, Ike and others alike are in the minority. Not a difficult concept to understand.

[@hopebuhali3887]

@@ShaunJulies I disagree with you, that's very shallow and a short sighted analysis on South Africans. You should remember that with the 60 million South Africans, only 10% have the power to change the status in South Africa. There's so much inequality in SA to the point where you are literally voicless and powerless if you don't have enough wealth, power and influence to create change in the country. There's so many brilliant people in this country but are powerless to create any positive change simply because they poor and systemically intentionally excluded from creating any change. Bra Ike is fortunate enough to be given a space to share his thoughts and ideas, unlike the millions of other South Africans who can't even access the internet that you take for granted and social media platforms to share their brilliant ideas and thoughts due to poverty and systemic inequality.

[@ShaunJulies]

@@hopebuhali3887 Everyone in this country's vote counts. Not only 10% of the people. If a quarter of the 60 million people chose to vote differently then half of our problem's would be solved already. You cannot say only 10% have the power and influence to change things when it is actually the majority that has the power, but chooses to relenquish that power by putting the same people in power who have proven over and over again that they do not have South Africa's interests at heart.

[@antonkruger212]

What a candid and refreshing discourse, this platform needs to be made compulsory for all South Africans to view. It brings hope, especially in these bleak times with the 2024 elections around the corner!

[@whereiszulu]

Ike Kumalo is poking unfair South African judicial system. There's alot to dissect but he done fairly well. Great minds great interview❤

[@BrotherM1978]

Ike for president. He's on point. I wonder what are the comrades saying about his comments 🤔. Lovely show this...

[@SpencerCourtis]

...the comrades cannot argue his points

[@ragininaidoo8439]

Brilliant podcast! Well done Penuel and guest. Gives me hope in the future of our beloved South Africa..

[@andymarais3014]

Hey dudes…. I’m a white guy. I say good for you, this is constructive discussion that is very healthy and necessary in our country. Both of you are ambassadors of SA. Good luck going forward 👍

[@roslyngraf1737]

👏🏻

[@roslyngraf1737]

Hey, there is hope for us. We must join hands all of us with our heads screwed on properly.

[@christoffelalbertyn9087]

Ek hou van die de b

[@coatknight]

Het jy na die hele gesprek geluister? 56m So jy dink die Godslastering is konstruktief? Ps 14:1 1h15 En soos hulle dink jy goed van Hitler, Mao en Stalin?

[@thabomkhabela2070]

​@@coatknightGet out of here!

[@philadelphiamashao2215]

You're literally discussing the future South Africa going forward & solutions 🙏 thanks for educating a black child Magrrotman❤

[@M3l_0N666]

Had you been listening more to minorities, you'd have known this 25 years back already. This is all old news. Congratulations for catching up.

[@rowensamuel2979]

Wow!! The honesty of the gentleman, I respect. Thank You for the interview.

[@vuyomzotho1239]

I haven't heard everything but I've already heard everything. Thank you Black Pen🙏, ngyaphakamisa kuwe Khumalo🙌

[@khutsoevelynmakhela1996]

It's a fact, in SA, if you don't have a 'tag' or 'celebrity' of some sort, no one takes you seriously even when you have development ideas. Love these conversations.

[@JomoWilliams-u7k]

If SA was a person it would be drunk darkie

[@thabisomakuwa9238]

Great line of questioning and shout out to bra Ike for always bringing the fire.

[@JAGDISHGOPAL-il5rm]

this gentleman speaks a lot of senses and i do respect his honest points its time humanity open their minds its not a race issue but a human of perception of reality respect mr I Khumalo.

[@davidakeci9651]

I am glad that you saying these things. Black people need to change our perception of the churches and religions. Thanks

[@deanddm]

Fantastic talk! I agree, a shared culture or set of values would greatly benefit this country

[@KagisoMaseko-wl2wx]

This is one of the interviews I watched on repeat for TWO days!! Bab'Khumalo is our shining star for telling it as it is. This is the type of wisdom we need in our daily lives. The government of today if it were serious and a loving one would've recruited him to shape their flaws and rectify it. Much love Mashobane!!!❤

[@eddiedalziel666]

I have the utmost respect for Ike hd is honest and transparent.

[@sandilemjabuliseni3180]

I lost Mr Ike when he got banned (for a lack of a better word) on 702 Talk Radio. But that helped me a lot because I started view main stream media with a sober mind, and I noticed I was captured for so long. Thanks to their disagreement with Aubrey, it woken me up from the slumber. Thanks Penn for inviting the guy, he's gem.

[@jobesithole5590]

I'm glad you woke up Sandile. The entire democracy system is a big fraud created to benefit parasitic elites. It will never benefit the marginalised in particular Africans.

[@M3l_0N666]

Truth is, how can you be truly free if all your ever doing is listening to people who tell you what to think. If you want freedom of thought, you need to start reading books, and then challenging the ideas of these very people. Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.

[@Vince_78]

"South Africa must budget for the whole Continent " 😮😮😮

[@francoiswilliams]

True

[@siyabulelasono5357]

I respect IKE KHUMALO when he speaks i always listen this man is heart broken by the ANC and all what he says always is true this country cant be border less and we never enjoy our freedom.

[@warrengreen8711]

This is the type of conversation South African men need to have as a unit no matter their tribe. He states that African men have a mental blockage to being organized and managing well. I see from South African men that their ego is the foundation of their existence. They do not want to ask for help to learn and make things better.

[@thabangmabapa1667]

Reminds me of when Prof JJ would allow Bra Ike to educate us on Power FM for a few minutes. The real people's Advocate. Kleva wa nnete.

[@wilnamerritt1588]

This man is gifted with a bright mind. Wish he would be running for President.

[@tsepolesibe7642]

This the best brilliant interview, refreshing. This made my day.

[@julienicks8691]

I too feel the same, being an Indian listening to Ike was soo refreshing, we definitely need more human kind like him. He's not stirring any division. That's what God wants from us. Our skin color should not be a factor we are all one, divine souls put on earth to connect as one. Love peace to all brothers and sisters. ❤

[@sthembisomabaso8283]

i really enjoyed this interview, ike is open minded and talks so much truth, indeed black people do need darkness to see the light..

[@mthobisisikhakhane]

Thanks penuel for bringing back Ike , great conversation indeed. Thanks for bringing these discussions. I agree with Bra Ike in many points he articulated.

[@kassiemyburgh1864]

I was listening to this while working, and was propperly distracted. It was a great interview........ the political, cultural and behavioural aspects of it in particular. Very refreshing and insightfull. The kind of message that needs to be heard by millions of people who only get exposed to the BS ANC and EFF rhetoric and brain washing. You are right, none if us have the government me want or need.....please, plead with people to go and vote, if they are not going to vote for the ANC, they must vote for any other party they feel would do a better job. I dont understand the loyalty people have towards the ANC after what they have done to this country, to us all. Good one thanks.

[@MphoNeluvholaneluvhola]

Yep please 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Bring him back as often as possible its gonna be a long Great path for sentimental value and conversations

[@livistoncube7732]

This guy is hitting the nail on the head.

[@Kushy36]

I agree with Bra Ike, Pen is quite amazing at this. I watch all these SA podcasts and even overseas ones, Pen is one of the best in the world. I think the person who was comparing to MacG is not a consumer of podcasting because Pen is an intellect and the other one is just for entertainment and gossip.

[@thubelihlekupa3339]

I think he get lot of gaslighting not from his ability to engage/debate/handling interview/questioning/some of his ideologies,, he is a descent solid guy but he often get caught in cultural wars sometimes as he's inclined to throw himself into it but i guess its a nature of being so called influencers/celebrities u have to always try to remain on top of things at all cost. I do like him but I also understand why he get some punches as well, and i think he also does understand it as well.

[@godpenuel]

Mac G is amazing at what he does, and has proven that he can also hold educational episodes... along with being a master of the entertaining ones. He's currently the leader in SA podcasting... even though we do different "genres" of content.

[@anelemakhobotloane389]

Absolutely Pen you give us different genres.

[@arthur_za]

​​@@godpenuelyou try very hard to pretend you're not a MacG hater yet you once tried to compete by dropping on Thursdays at 3PM. That's why MacG doesn't reconcile with you - he can see through your fake BS.

[@AbuSmith-ew6gi]

@@godpenuel how do you feel about Malema using you to score some cheap political points?

[@MaaxxJunior]

One of the best conversations you’ve had Pen. Well done.

[@jonathanthys2840]

Hi Pen, hats off to your and your guest because i finally hear some of my beliefs echoing in this conversation.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

I appreciate Ike's thorough analysis of the different presidents of South Africa during the democratic era and their respective accomplishments or failures. However, it is crucial to approach the era of apartheid with a clear and comprehensive context. While it is true that there were some positive aspects, it is important to recognize that the primary issue with apartheid was its focus on benefiting the minority population while perpetuating discrimination against the majority. Therefore, it is vital to consider both the positive and negative aspects of this era in order to fully understand its complexities.

[@lehlagaremogadime7494]

That's true bro, and also for it to be successful is because those infrastructures were built by black slaves.

[@francoiswilliams]

Not true

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

@@francoiswilliams Whats not true ??

[@francoiswilliams]

@@KaraboMasemola6408 You didn't listen to what he said about apartheid...it was better than ANC democracy 😆😆

[@Big-Mouth81]

@karabomasemola6408 You're stating the obvious within your response with regards to South Africa's history! We are all familiar with the history! 🙄🙄🙄 Meaning that in your response you're going back and forth, not actually being opinionated on the topic at hand with the points being put across in the interview! Adv Khumalo was comprehensive and crystal clear in his view points but you weren't paying attention or maybe just listening with half an ear. As for you downplaying and saying "there were some positive aspects" regarding the old government, I think the only reason you put it like that was to fit your own narrative! There weren't "some" positive aspects to the old government but many, too many for me to explain to you and waste my time in doing so and please don't take my words out of context. With regards to the negatives regarding Apartheid there was NOTHING good about it but don't take away from all the things they were doing right as opposed to the ANC government!!

[@UbaldorThwani]

Very True Sir Ike,pre 94,was better off than,this current managers of our country,we have developed a selfish persona as a black man,look how the poor gets more poorer,and politicians and friends are prospering.

[@peterjordaan9025]

Excellent program. You guys are like "a breath of fresh air" Thank you

[@mahlasemofokeng5812]

These are conversations I subscribed for, thanks Pen ❤️

[@mosadingsedibane1373]

This man Nkos’ yam!!! I learned a lot of history listening to him. Very relaxed when he’s interviewed and speaks his mind. We need to be stay focused or we gonna be a lost generation.

[@NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi]

Thank you my Kings this is African we need.

[@mondlimncibi8710]

I agree with almost 85% if the things Ike Khumalo believes in.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

I deeply admire Penuel and Ike as both follow their work , particularly when it comes to discussions about religion. As a fellow Christian, I truly believe in the importance of being critical and seeking knowledge. History serves as a valuable tool to affirm the foundations and origins of Christianity, as the evidence is abundant. It is crucial to critically examine the teachings of Christianity to deepen our understanding and grow in our faith.

[@Dotata2009]

I enjoyed listening to you brothers. Ike is really making sense to me in this podcast. I think Ike is a relaxed interviewee. When he came with Rutendo. It was a problem. Rutendo took over the debate. I only realized it, he is a very intelligent South African.

[@MrGirschwynn]

Thanks Pen and Crew for a great show. Ike is great made me laugh in Cape Town its the same with Kulid community. I liked how he ended on shared values cos that is so true. In my view drugs are our peoples majors issue. Substance abuse that leads to mental health issues. It's sad to see someone you went school with scratching in your bin. I wish you can stop that for black people.

[@zisilemoyi2246]

stop cANCer rule

[@MrGirschwynn]

@@zisilemoyi2246 I don't think ANC is the problem. Cos DA is in Western Cape but their are drugs everywhere you look. Just social decay in less affluent communities. This is unfortunately a symptom on Apartheid and I disagree with Ike the whites are evil pure. Just go to the slave lodge in Adderley st and the Castle in CBD for 200 years women raped and tourtured and men limbs being pulled off one by one. The whites are another level of evil. Even today they just more sophisticated then they use ppl like Ike against us. Come to Kaapstaad ask Pen he was there recently.

[@moetimoalosi9360]

What South Africa and South Africans need is an identity. Not a race, religion nor ethnic commonality will help us fight for the same thing as a collective. We need an identity and a catalyst for that identity should be base on poverty eradication. This however, is not to be achieved politically but socially instead.

[@lindalucky3583]

Mr Penuel please keep up the good job you are doing we see you. Some of us gets motivated from all your teachings.

[@overcomemeyi]

My Brother as a South African, I am proud of the production quality, keep going.

[@williamgoldstone9920]

Integrity is everything. And Advocate Ike Khumalo speaks truth, it’s this truth that will set us free. We are not robots, we are people who can think, we can make a contribution and he is making that contribution freely. We must encourage each other to reach that level of engagement.

[@juhankleingold6815]

You are a man of substance adv Khumalo .I as a white man lived through the 70s 80s 90s till now .Dispised the NP .We had a short period during Mr Mandelas reign of hope and prosperity in our land .If only we could have Mr MandeIa for another 5 years, I look at SA and feel like a total stranger .Then a man like you speak the truth and I get hope for our beautiful SA .Black people are also getting tired and frustrated with our dire situation .I believe that our change and future are in the hands of the brave black men and women that is not scared to say it as it is .I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your true words .God Bless SA our beloved country and all its people .

[@bms_888]

If South Africa was a person it would be a drunk person - Advocate Ike😂😂😂

[@mariejones2302]

Mr Khumalo you are Amazing! I have great respect for you you are so knowledgable and can do so nuch for our beautiful country. God bless you and Please continue to carry on with you are doing to bring change to this wonderful country❤

[@andymarais3014]

Fantastic relevant information…. black people NEED to hear the truth coming from educated black people.

[@navenpillay1694]

This man talks so much sense.. and says it like it is...Pen ..good on you for having people like him on your show..keep it going man

[@godpenuel]

This episode was filmed a few months ago. Just for context 🙏🏽

[@mambamzwandile202]

Makes sense seeing your famous adidas sneakers.

[@XolaniSithole-v7z]

​@@mambamzwandile202 old ones

[@NNnn-l8i6m]

It was yet another bomb🎉🎉🎉siyabonga Lungelo❤

[@luthandomakalima5383]

@Penuel - its high time that you open these podcasts to the general public. That would create great debates and conversations.

[@M3l_0N666]

This stuffs been debated by minorities for decades, the problem is none of yall have been on their channels to learn something others have known since always.

[@samphakane3361]

As a black person I needed this conversation

[@lyndonjacobs5264]

Regarding evolution: the question is did the Khoisan and Bantu NEED to evolve further? Only later in their civilisations did they encounter other tribes, went to war and were pushed to improve. We cannot compare them to Europeans, asians and North Africans and Middle easterners who were in constant conflict and had more fertile land, which pushed them to improve. The Khoisan and Bantu evolved perfectly for their environment and didn't need to get to higher levels of civilisation.

[@audiebrown7247]

Truly insightful discussion..I have to commend you Pen. You want to discuss the underlining factors which produces the issues Bra Ike is pointing out. The black mentality and behavior is a result of many years of conditioning and indoctrination. ''Sour grapes eaten by parents leave a sour taste in the mouths of their children."

[@marienel1553]

What a BRAVE MAN...I SALUTE HIM....FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH....MAY GOD BLESS HIM... 🎉🎉🎉

[@naze1266]

Very good interview. It kept me watching for the full 90 minutes. Maybe that was because you covered a range of issues that kept the conversation going.

[@thulaniyeyeyegumede9054]

Pen handled this interview so well as if it was rehearsed. Great Job… now about the guest, I like his passion. Having said that, there are very few people who can “trash” their own people without having impurified their own hearts… Layman’s Thoughts.

[@armandslabbert5493]

The ability to be critical about oneself, and by extension, one's own people, is an invaluable asset. Everyone should be able to reflect on their shortcomings.

[@manqobadlamini8896]

My brother, The people of Isrial cried saying they wish they where back in Egypt. Listening to you i hear the same mindset looking back to apartheid. You should be talking about how we can improve what we have now

[@ernestleballo628]

Love this!!! remove the emotions and face the facts. I applaud Black pen move from the race card to value based perspective and worldview.

[@BandzMakeHerDance595]

Mxm that will never work 🙄

[@matthewm5825]

what does MXM mean? @@BandzMakeHerDance595

[@MzansiRealTalk]

Watching you guys talk about religion wow I wish everyone could open their eyes.

[@TheJKreef]

Excellent interview and insights...well structured and well balanced interview..with more fact based than emotions. What struck me in the last part of the interview, was the notion of a new set of values and not culture, that need to set the common vision for a better South Africa for all. I think this was a piece of wisdom...as culture might still be driven by race or religion, where values are more driven on common ground as humanity...just my observation. Keep it up...I am a new fan of the show!💪

[@ThulaniMdakane-vt5wm]

Great conversation this two gentlemen had and one thing I have picked up is someone else views about what's happening in the country and his beliefs our guests , yet a lot of points said it's true and real reality in this country. So South Africa when is time for change? And Penuel we should have such people to talk about these things.

[@nhlanhlamkhlize1005]

Just hope our leaders watch and listen to these platforms, these talks are informative and liberating.

[@godpenuel]

If the masses listen... they'll change the leadership.

[@nolizwimzizi256]

S/O Adv.Ike for speaking his mind❤

[@mpadimakgalo2883]

I was about to switch off in the beginning of the podcast but wow impressed….brilliant conversation

[@claricejones9329]

I just subscribed. I’am American African. I love your show very interesting.

[@thembazwane3090]

It's without a doubt that Ike is an intelligent man including Penuel, I applaud u guys. The show it's self touches a lot on social ills that affect black people. It's too bad that the good people the are not politicians. All the politicians are evil. So it will take a lot for black people to thrive. I enjoyed the show it almost went sour when u guys started talking about God,Jesus,heaven etc. It's so unfortunate that a lot of professionals fail at this because it is not political or academically related. And most professionals like expressing empty views on this subject. Otherwise great show.

[@NoziphoSibelekwana]

Mr Khumalo go on with the good work we support you thank You yhoo uvela phi umuntu onje tell them it's high time now our children are Amaphara because of this corrupt government

[@rosemasekwameng9941]

Becoming a regular guest will be great

[@Kuuchie3286]

Great minds, Ike what a pack of wisdom. Thanks Pen

[@paullukeleroux4449]

What a brilliant show.

[@Lungsta_da_lgm]

I wish this podcast was longer

[@sellomanciya6175]

I don't understand why people hate on this platform... The conversations held here are 👌

[@TataKaZuri]

I don't think they hate the platform, but the anchor (Pen) for some of his views.

[@Agnelum1]

@@TataKaZuri This is the problem with so many people on social media - if someone voices any critique, the reaction is "Ah this one is hating!"

[@mvuseleloisaac6667]

At least we still have people like him.

[@muzisensei3493]

but nothing ever changes! So there's no difference!

[@bokamosomafoko8108]

Tribalism is still an issue here in SA and if we can win that we can win as one Black nation

[@thembi9645]

Plz elaborate, In which way?

[@lefutootse4861]

In which country are you coming from? Tribalism?

[@hopebuhali3887]

There's hardly any tribalism in South Africa

[@thembi9645]

@@hopebuhali3887 and I'm still waiting for my answer from this stupid comment above. I hate it when people try so hard to instigate something that's not thre.

[@simphiwenzuza8318]

All countries have tribalism even in Europe in Britain the English hava a long history of fighting with the Irish so please even in Nigeria Igbo tribal and others don’t get along. If South Africa has tribalism leave it to them it’s family matters

[@YungKGDaExRapper]

Pen’s timing to drop is so on point

[@arthur_za]

It's based on Podcast and Chill with MacG, (same day) like nearly every podcast in the country.

[@qenehelomahasa1168]

If we had 10 Ikes among us, life would be life. I may not agree with a few of his strategies but he is darmn good! Intellegent! Focussed! U name it he is it!!

[@GossiphiveEnt]

Khumalo, you need a slot on the podcast and chill network, we need your teachings as the youth on politics.

[@wettham715]

Love you 😍 guys and your integrity ❤️. White fella here, Durban Umfan 52 vintage. Never hated a black person, never hurt a black person. Just hate the way things have turned out on many fronts.

[@moagisimothibedi8444]

Patiently waiting for this 1👌

[@truthandjustice6838]

Ike Khumalo is someone I can respect as an Afrikaner.

[@honordiamond2548]

Black people do not have the capacity to Co-operate and form lasting business Partnerships. Ive been in that situation. They lack the grace and humility to accommodate one another. Everybody wants to be the Boss or the leader then Jealousy and envy starts creeping in and Things start Falling Apart.

[@SherryTakhalo505]

That is not true. To generalize black people in such a way is quite harmful. Like Ike said, because of centuries of previous oppression, some black people are unconfident and so they try to overcompensate a lot of the time because of the trauma or 'inferiority complex' that has been caused by society and Western imperialism. Everyone has the capacity for grace and humility if they are nurtured in a prosperous environment which is not happening because our politicians are bleeding the country dry and do not care about the majority and how to improve the lives of its citizens for the long term.

[@vh2q]

Intellectual honesty is a very scarce thing in RSA these days, it is good to record a shining example for wider consumption, for the history books. Sir, you are on a level with George Washington and Nelson Mandela.

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

Ike Khumalo is very important in our society, salute to you my brother we need more people like yourself.

[@dineolaka4433]

I love this.This was beautiful to watch.Brilliant interaction between brothers.