The Real Reason Chinese Phones are so Cheap in 2020...🔥🔥🔥

[@ZiReviewsTech]

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[@willglass2727]

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[@johnmallqui4600]

is it to late?

[@arektokarski9606]

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[@adls04]

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[@hemanthkumar3484]

i want to add 6th point to your video. They earn money from ads that are shown in their custom roms. My friend uses Redmi Note 5 pro and almost 90% of the system(custom) apps displays banner ads. But fortunately it gives option to disable them but the fact is 90% of those phones users were not aware of that. At once they even thought to display ads on lock screen but for obvious reasons they didn't. One plus was caught red handed of exporting user specific information to their servers through One plus device manager app. A system app of "Coolpad phone" has all the permissions turned ON by default.They are recording every moment of you. Now the samsung might have grown as big company but 5 years back it is same as today's XIAOMI. Samsung entered the market with same strategy which xiaomi using now, to sell phones at cheap prices and offer tons of features(90% of those features wont work). But now it is acting like a big company.I remember my friend buying samsung s4 for all most $500 which indeed has great features but in reality none of them worked. I always prefer and suggest every one to use "android one" mobiles in which you will receive guaranteed direct updates from google for upto 2 years

[@walkertongdee]

Dude Dude Dude its not that the Chinese phones are cheap its that the other phones are EXPENSIVE!

[@ZiReviewsTech]

haha

[@homerhomer1392]

True

[@jonitan76]

lol. so true

[@davidsegalle563]

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[@Trendnet18]

Hahahaha nice one

[@RiversBliss]

Why buy a $1000 phone when 90% of people only use 20% of the features on it?

[@brennersilvestre86]

I was literally having this conversation yesterday. Especially with Apple fans.

[@92000]

Rather: why put tons of sh*t inside new smartphones

[@BillAnt]

@Huggy Bear < "S6 edge+ cost me $1300" ?? Woot? $1,300 for any phone is too much let alone for an S6edge+, sorry to say but you might have gotten ripped off on that. :(

[@cnccarving]

the most i paid for phone some 65 i dont have to worry on waterdamage or any breakage, simply buy another one mostly LG and huawei youtube videos are playing good i can sed receive good quality pictures i just dont see no reason why i would spend 1200-1600 on a phone not to mention the so much waited 5G probably need another 5 years til it can be used nationwide the tech require at least 3-4 times more ""tower"" and for that reason it will be very expenses additionally the 5G due to its wavelenght very sensitive for rain and all kind of objects..

[@TonyRule]

But... what will my friends think of me getting a phone that does everything they do for less capital outlay?

[@abutamim2342]

It is not that these phones are cheap But other phones ARE OVER PRICED!!!

[@BatuHitam]

AbuTamim23 u are right guy..other phone are too expensive

[@DynamicFalafels]

Facts

[@sdlock83]

No, Chinese phones are CHEAP because they lack quality control.

[@HydrogenAgent129]

Yeah the overpricing is from Zionist corporations

[@eganplaysMC]

@@sdlock83 Have you not seen new phones from China? $215 Huawei phones are Samsung flagship quality in terms of design and build.

[@adamryan3867]

Chinese phones are not cheap, that's the real price of phones.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Minus all the marketing, R&D dollars you mean?

[@stevenluo216]

Yap. Here we don’t spend too much money for a logo.

[@sithuhtun9605]

Wow!

[@raynoldregan3669]

Zi Reviews Tech Most phones manufacturers don't need R&D since they buy parts from big corps that do the R&D Corning gorilla glass, Sony camera sensors, Qualcomm Snapdragon, Samsung or LG screen, Phone casing from Foxxcon, and slight UI modifications that takes less than 15 mins to make. I could start make my phone brand and buy all those things to assemble in a small factory then use stock android. That's pretty much how Nokia does it after HMD Global takes over.

[@kelvinpang438]

Aung Ko Min yeah,like he said in the vid,your paying almost half the price for the logo,them making at least half the price as profit(I left out some money as they still need to make some profit,but not much).

[@cabbageyoung7459]

As far as I know as a Chinese native, VIVO and OPPO spend a lot of money on marketing every year, doing sponsorship to reality shows, sports leagues and buying TV commercials. They make profits by selling mid-end hardware with high-end prices and inviting most popular stars to make their brand image look good. To be honest, their phones are very popular in less developed areas, but sell pretty well. For Xiaomi, they truly sell their phones with lower prices, but their modified OS contains Advertisements and Xiaomi makes money out of it, as well as their accessories.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

You are correct

[@brancanorris8933]

Haiyang He as Chinese native, I know that apple is used by people who catches public transport everyday in China because they want to show off in public. People lives in more developed cities driving their own cars are more likely to get a huawei or something. Samsung is not popular in China, so Vivo n Oppo have big market, their phones look good, not overly expensive, they're popular in both developed and less developed cities, they're just designed for young people.

[@cabbageyoung7459]

I don't think so, because people in less developed cities afford cars as well and they use VIVO or OPPO (smile). HUAWEI is more popular with middle-aged patriotic or business people. It's unfair to say that iPhone is only to show off, because actually some VIVO and OPPO phones aren't much cheaper than iPhones, and iPhones do have descent experience.

[@brancanorris8933]

Haiyang He you know what? China is too big, so there's no correct answer to this. I just didn't like you stated you're Chinese native before you expressed your opinions, to convince other people that your answer stands for all Chinese people or something. I'm Chinese native too n I don't think so.

[@cabbageyoung7459]

Come on, I never said that what I said is totally correct, just like you, I express my opinions. No opinon is 100% correct, and I never believed that. I also do not see anything improper to state that I'm a Chinese native just like you did. I don't think it's fair that as a Chinese native, you can say that I cannot say I am one. What do you think?

[@ReassuringSmile]

They're not cheap, but they're correctly priced. If a phone costs $200 to manufacture a phone Chinese phones sell it at $350, which is a reasonable profit margin. Phones like iPhones and Samsungs may costs around $250 to build (including labor) but sells outright at retail for $800 or $1,000.... that's overpriced and as long as idiots keeps buying them. That it will be the standard.

[@andrew_koala2974]

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[@fteoOpty64]

China CANNOT make OLED displays!.... Copy as they will, some tech way above their capability. Neither can they make CPUs, The Kirin is a licensed Arm design. Other tech they cannot copy so buy license.

[@arbs3ry]

Don't forget Economies of scale：What you did not mention is that Mainland China itself is a big market for everything and it reduces costs dramatically

[@ZiReviewsTech]

agree

[@fairenough7304]

Ray Maybe, but iPhone are made in China though

[@oliverizzard8751]

@@fairenough7304 what he means is that China has 1.3 billion people and they LOVE their phones more than any people I've ever seen. They use their phones for absolutely EVERYTHING making it the biggest market for the product as well as the best testing ground for innovation. Since they also make the phones themselves it doesn't take a genius to know that the future of smartphone benchmark will be Chinese brands.

[@Ynainah]

Across Africa only a minority can afford a phone going for over $150. This market is huge and the demand will always be there as millions a leaving high school yearly and a cheap smartphone is a symbol of initiation to adulthood.

[@keffinsg]

Some people pay $50 for a watch, some pay $50,000. Is the accuracy of the time you eat your lunch worth the difference? No, the true reason to spend so much more is to make one feel better about himself.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

For some people yes, but others don't know that there are cheaper phones out there so they pay $800 for an S8

[@l1m1t80]

Zi Reviews Tech S8 is a very good phone ...... very good display, design and software.... so I whod buy a phone that I know is good .... not a phone who no1 knows about it...

[@sali-ali]

XIAOMI is the World's 4th manufacturer of mobile phones, so everyone knows about it including you.

[@rav350]

L1m1T Xiaomi is called the "The apple of the east". I don't think you can speak for everyone since you appear to be in the minority that doesn't know about it.

[@alenasenie6928]

the expected outcome is also that the costly phone would have more acuaracy an only have like 0.0000001 sec of distortion in a year, i dont think is whort for someone but is totaly whort for experiments and expensive equipment, also is the 500 usd the one that have more sensors, the 50000 is the one that is only incredibly acurate

[@JC-sl7bs]

Because other phones are overpriced. True fact, dude

[@valeera5415]

@@OccupyConcord we outnumber the rich

[@tesmith47]

@@OccupyConcord you reply like a stupid person

[@dannyboydeluxfromthebigitybay]

@@OccupyConcord you seem to be spoken like a uneducated person. Guys right.

[@JC-sl7bs]

@@OccupyConcord So, you spoke like a rich but an exceptionally stupid one, didn't you?

[@wv9529]

Spoken like a person who has no idea behind the process of developing - manufacturing - delivering - selling a phone. Just start thinking for a momment how much of each of these steps cost.

[@DL-uw2yj]

A few other reasons: 1. Lots of the phones made by smaller players are based around Mediatek SOCs, which are a lot cheaper when compared to the usual Qualcomm you see in the usual mass market devices. 2. Turn-key solutions and reference designs - Turn-key solutions including reference designed PCB designs and firmware stacks are used by these manufacturers. All a small manufacturer needs to do is to manufacture the hardware, this takes away the cost of research and development around electronic components and firmware, but that's why you probably won't get any major firmware updates from these manufacturers. 3. Less certification requirements - unlike most mass market products, some of these devices are unlikely to have passed regulatory testing and have certifications outside of China. Again, saving the costs for having the devices tested out for each market. 4. Limited frequncy bands - less bands, less licensing fees to pay to Qualcomm or other patent holders (indirectly thru their suppliers). 5. Generally not top of the line peripherals - while these phones may have good image sensors or large capacity batteries, generally these phones tend to have the corner cut around areas that are difficult to quantify. For example, the optics and ISP tuning would very likely to be worse than a mass market device with the same sensor, it may also lack features like OIS. In terms of large capacity batteries, they tend to use batteries supplied by 2nd tier manufacturers and in some cases, they may also inflate the specs of the batteries.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Thanks for the good info. Some comapnies even secretly enable network bands without advertising them (which I like)

[@Riceisgood777]

I dont see many phones with mediatek lately looked for +160,200€ Chinese phones in Amazon and Spanish retailer literally everyone comes with Qualcomm.

[@ChiekoGamers]

Less advertisements and less marketing.Price:Specs value.The brand does not have to speak for it self.#Xiaomi

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Yup

[@Enforcedcraft]

RebornChiekoGaming That is why I have been impressed with Xiaomi Mi A1. It is Android One really good 200€ phone on Aliexpress from Mi official store ,but listening to Zi Tech Review about RAM idk what policy does Xiaomi use. Do they use Bad RAM or good RAM like Samsung,LG,Apple etc. And also don't wanna be skeptical about it but spyware is just another problem. 🤔

[@yoshyoka]

Unfortunately quality does not figure in the specs sheet. I have had one Huawei and one Xiaomi phone, both lasted less than a year.

[@Vanles25]

yoshyoka Personal experience varies. I have a xiaomi phone for over year now and its still fine at it is just like when I first bought it. Also Defects, failures can happen to any brands. ATM chinese phones are really getting better durability wise. Samsung was pretty much just like a chinese phone 10+ years ago when the market is being dominated by Nokia, Ericsson, motorolla etc. But look where they are now? Top brand phones are getting really really expensive nowadays. The consumer needs a much cheaper alternative that offers the same performance or even better just like the MiA1 of xiaomi. No samsung phones can compete with it specwise within that price range.

[@fojerbachas]

I own Mi A1 and for that price - it's an amazing phone!

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

Lol. This is made 2 years ago and it's titled "2020". Edit: Last year it was a year ago (2018) and 2019 as the title.

[@pedromeneses9617]

It still applies to this year

[@keinunvergebenesaliasgefunden]

Still true but the title was misleading and clickbait, nothing new here, we knew all that years ago.

[@bobhan6395]

@@pedromeneses9617 Yes it still applies this year, Chinese steal technology, wait it's not stealing it's open source. LOL.

[@yolamontalvan9502]

Let’s face it. Everything Made in the USA IS EXPENSIVE TO SELL TO OTHER COUNTRIES. That’s why we should produce them in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama. These regions are 100 more beautiful than Hawai. After the US helped them get rid of the Communists, they should have helped them bring the economy back again. Instead we ended up with that mess at the border because the paratroopers the US trained ended up as corrupt politicians or head of gang member. Everything the US touches, dies.

[@pedromeneses9617]

@@yolamontalvan9502 Everything China touches, dies, but they cover it up, because they control every single news outlet and won't let the information out of the country, so idiots like you never hear about it and keep chanting, "Death to America" over and over, how original

[@tonytango340]

I bought a xiaomi max 2 for ca$300, delivered to my office. Great phone, sturdy and reliable. Screen not as good as my Samsung but noticeable only side by side. I will never pay more than $300 for a phone again. I was wondering why these phones are not available in Canada. Your video explains why. Thank you.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

No problem glad you like it. My friend is using this phone and is at 46% after 2 days of heavy use

[@yl9737]

just for your information, xiaomi phones are actually quite aggressive on quality, they try to use the best parts to make the phone.

[@yl9737]

Also, I think people should not buy phones from carriers anymore, they are just not deal at all. choose a cheap plan, buy an unlocked phone from B&H or other reliable online retailer

[@mostlymessingabout]

Samsung makes their own RAM. They are the world's biggest chip maker over taking Intel. Not sure about RAM but flash memory is definitely variable quality but more importantly speed. Apple also has higher specifications on OLED screen made by Samsung. So rightly they should pay extra for it.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Yes

[@raynoldregan3669]

Thanh Tran Samsung also makes their own ARM processor and graphics chip, and everything else in their phones. US versions use snapdragon due to protectionism policies by US govt. Huawei is the only Chinese company that produce all their own hardware.

[@ColtonSpears]

I know I'm a little late to this but I wanted to clear it up a little bit. Samsung does make their own ram, HOWEVER their mobile division is completely separated from the the part of their business that makes the RAM itself. If Apples phone division is willing to pay more per wafer than Samsung is, there is a high chance that the higher quality is still going to go to Apple.

[@morlidor]

Samsung doesn't make EVERYTHING in their mobiles themselves they buy plenty of components from Japanese chinese and even other Korean companies.

[@Danilio.]

@@morlidor We know that.

[@nongthip]

Watching this video on a $150 Huawei Android phone which does 90% of whatever I want out of a phone. No need to blow $1k on some high-end fashion statement. 😱

[@angelaguidolin4822]

Same here, but I'm regretting it. I didn't know it was made in China when I bought it. Following Mark Zuckerberg example, I have placed some paper on the camera and the phone tells me I shouldn't cover the top of the screen. WTH? I don't want to be spied on! So I do it anyway but it's annoying.

[@angelaguidolin4822]

@J L I was under the impression it was made in the UK... Just kidding. No, I thought it was made in Taiwan.

[@maromorostar6621]

I'm watching from my Samsung J6 I paid 145$ and it works smoothly with android 9 one ui. Doing everything I need from a phone perfectly and fast.

[@dannywang1298]

Angela Guidolin google and fb are spying on w/o camera.

[@angelaguidolin4822]

@Peter Wu Sound piece of advice, thanks.

[@notfound_63]

I clicked at this video expecting to see the typical "they charge less because they are made out bad quality materials and by children under hard conditions" argumentation, but it actually turned out to be useful. I never imagined that the actual components of cheaper phones would be the ones that bigger companies did not accept :D

[@ZiReviewsTech]

+Miquel Roura Batlle Glad you liked it

[@hihi-fi8by]

Miquel Roura Batlle there's one comment about that just down there

[@larrylentini5688]

It's also the fact that the big companies spent billions of dollars not only on advertising, but even more on R&D actually creating the technology that goes in the phone. Chinese companies don't really develop anything, they just take the designs they want and put it in their own package.

[@jonitan76]

electronic is high precision and high tech. can not be build by slave or children. if your opinion is true all phones are made in africa (or any place that has cheap labour)

[@sunnyamy7493]

@@larrylentini5688 be careful about saying "just take or copy". You are not the law! The western world just doesn't want to admit that China is developing fast in their techniques and have more and more intellectual professional staff

[@lip4681]

It's the right price.. iphones and samsung are just overpriced and overrated

[@Danilio.]

No only iPhones are overrated

[@itzfusionplex4266]

ThatBoi_ Danni Lmfao, Android weeaboo fanboy.

[@aftergame676]

IPhones are overpriced not overrated

[@shancyroesner9212]

iPhone is totally overrated

[@chris-id6vk]

privacy and security is overrated? okay

[@slyshadow205]

I just got a Umidigi F1 phone for $200 dollars, and it's insanely good! Great speed, 64G+ storage, 6G ram, Android 9 pie, & long battery life! It would kill Apple if it became mainstream!

[@nuvo6324]

Same man im thinking of getting the F1, do you like it?

[@slyshadow205]

@@nuvo6324 it's very well priced. Apple is just cashing in on their obsessive fans. The F1 has the latest Android software, and that alone makes it worth owning!

[@cachem11]

The Chinese smartphone market is extremely competitive. Despite Samsung has about 20% market share globally, it has less than in China, whereas the four Chinese big players Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo have combined over 60%. LG quit their phone business in China a while back because no one were buying their phones. In order to survive, manufactures have no choice but pricing their products very low. Two years ago, the standard price for lower-mid tier phones were around 1000 RMB (US$150). Many companies make very little or zero profit out of their phones to attract more customers. Now days it's more like 1500-2000 RMB because small players quit and big players wish to make more profit. Higher-end product that cost 3500 RMB or more started to come out.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

thanks for your thoughts

[@jimmyyaoharbin]

It's kinda astonishing for me to find that simple facts like what you mentioned in this comment is so unknown to the majority of people who are not in China

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Phew, this was a lot of work! If you liked this video, considering sharing it on Facebook & Twitter so more people find out about this wonderful world of Chinese phones!

[@Antonsetiady]

Zi Reviews Tech i just shared on my fb

[@ZiReviewsTech]

THanks a lot man

[@KavensWorld]

You rock dude :) I have loved china tech for 4 years. I'm currently working on securing a ODM deal from Shenzhen. Oh man would it be awesome to go visit.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Hmm, check your KZbin inbox... this sounds interesting 😈

[@sds7870]

Fair assessment have had a elephone p9000 now coming up to 2 years.no bad seen as most would replace them everything 12-18 months. Not without its faults but great value for money and most think its a Sony by looking at it anyway.

[@ryanjensen5897]

When I buy a phone I look at specs. Don't buy a phone just for the name.

[@margi392]

Well I understand that and yes I'm a dirty iPhone user, but look at it this way - You check the specs and see this Chinese, no brand phone with similar specs as new iPhone's but for half the price. You decide to buy it because the name does not matter. After using this phone for little longer you will quickly realise that these companies, They don't care about their phones from the past. Your software will soon get outdated but you wouldn't be able to update it or even worse if you would be able to do so, your new version of OS will get even more laggy, because they don't really care about their older phones, They ain't having the money to get these phones a better optimization. So instead of having iPhone that runs relatively fast even after a lot of software updates for let's say 3 even 4 years, You buy this Chinese crap for half of the price and after a year or two you just gotta upgrade! Let's not forget that these Chinese companies will give you a much cheaper hardware as shown in this video so that you will sooner run to a hardware problem that just needs to be fixed. Even if this happens in the time of your warranty, it is going to be much harder to get those Chinese companies to repair your phone than Apple would do. I'm not really throwing hate at these Chinese companies, it works for them and you know business is business but name usually provides guarantee or at least stereotypes that you can follow while choosing which phone to buy. If you kept reading 'till there congrats and thanks!

[@Speedmanize]

@@margi392 Yes but for a person who updates their phone every 2-3 years (i know its bad for our economy, and i used my phones much longer, but you have to keep in mind that innovsations are only made when people actually buy them, when everybody use their old phones for decades, there wont be as much innovations) its a great alternative with good specs for half the price.

[@Ghryst]

looking at the specs of every phone out there is why i am a samsung user and have been since the s5

[@carlocarl4440]

@@margi392 ive seen a lot of people complaining about apple deliverately slowing down thier older iphone through software updates to force people to get a new one. so yeah, apple wants the best for thier costumers, but they want more of your $$$$ in return. lol

[@T0m0zuki]

@@margi392 The assumptions are correct, but the reality isn`t. I`ve had a Moto G, Moto G4 Plus and Moto G7 and both previous ones were receiving system updates for at least 3 years. Then you can choose either to buy another phone for 200 € (of Amazon for instance) or load a custom ROM and run the latest Android (if needed). Hardware wise, non of them had any issues. The first Moto runs after 7 years like time stood still, except for the battery which is cheap to replace. It is even submersive. All three devices supported migration of apps so everything I had one the first device is now on the third device (except for the apps I no longer needed). Android it mostly stock except for some useful touches. Moto G4 Plus uses my dad now, but it survived a very bumpy road of my ownership. I replaced the whole housing, screen (both for aesthetics) and battery and it cost me about 60 € all together. What was left of the original, was only a motherboard actually. For me, over 500 € for a smartphone is just absurd, but each user has it`s own preferences.

[@whatthef911]

Over regulation leads to top heavy companies where an army of lawyers and accountants are required to start a company. Less regulation lowers the barrier to entry.

[@yvindvego9404]

that depends on what is regulated. it can be really easy to start a company and still have heavy regulation in the market if right things are regulated.

[@reinerwahnsinn4158]

Personally, I never spent over 200€ for a phone. To me, there is no need to buy an overpriced iPhone and even Samsung can´t really compete with Umidigi or Elephone

[@HunterRodrigez]

I got a Xiaomi note 5, it was like 200 bucks, feels quite premium and can very easily keep up with most flagships out there. and with a custom rom I don't even have to use the xiaomi launcher with all the bloatware

[@rauleyshar3635]

Most subsidized phone makers make money by auctioning users data. Android is free, but manufacture still need to make money and best way is user data collection/integration/ modification and auction it.

[@demef758]

@Rauley: precisely! "Free" has its price ...."

[@MrDamburger]

I literally UPGRADED to a huawei nova 3 from my iphone 8.. and the nova 3 is way more powerful and seemless, and less than half the price. I have so many more features and convenience, i suspect huawei will be the biggest phone manufacturer in the world by 2019/2020

[@dummypg6129]

I worked in a semiconductor company and the 5th reason discussed in the video has a term for that we called the class A customers and lower class customers, both have the same chip but the testing/qualification requirements are different and sometimes way more to par with the class A. There are cases if units cannot meet the class A requirement, we re-purpose it and test to qualify with lower class. Also we used naming identifiers to make sure that this chip will only sell to the respective customers. if old inventory of class A sometimes are renamed and sell it as generic chips.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Ah thanks. My dad was trying to explain to me this concept but he forgot all the terms they used. Is there an overall name for this kind of concept? E.g. a word like binning

[@dummypg6129]

hmm, binning is close, but it means they bin which is good or no good on different parameters. We just called it Test Program for Class A customer which is sometimes identified by the chip name designed for that purpose. Anyway nice video, you earned 1 sub :)

[@dummypg6129]

Now i remember the term, its called MYA, maverick yield acceptance, if its 3 sigma 2 sigma 1 sigma, if it falls 3 sigma it can be sold to class A if its lower they can rename the chip id and sell to lower class customer. This the what you mean on the reason 5. Anyway i'm not sure if its a standard term but i cant find it on google though

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Ah thanks. And that's part of the Six Sigma black belt certification right?

[@bryandepaepe5984]

Intel does the same with their products, a pentium CPU is the same silicon die as the I7 CPU just with cores locked different internal connections made or not made and or programmed differently.

[@steveglen3354]

The non chinese phones are expensive because they don't charge for the phone, they charge for the brand

[@donavonhornbeck]

This was brilliant! Great work!

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Thanks Donovon!

[@TheJosephPrice]

Phones sell for the prices they do for a variety of reasons. R&D, Marketing/Advertising, Money set aside for warranty claims and defects on the assembly line, etc. Then of course, a business isn’t a charity, they want and are legally required to make a profit.

[@kenntonontrac186]

I've only spent $40 on a phone and that was like 3 years ago, I'm not even old enough to legally work. I'm learning responsibility?

[@Vampybattie]

40$ lmfao what kind of garbageass phone do you have ?

[@grozaphy]

@@Vampybattie Nothing wrong with having a cheap phone.Some people are born in a richer family while some are born in a poor family.Or maybe expensives phones are not worth it.Like what Bill Gates said,It is not your fault if you are born poor but if you die poor,it is.

[@buttersnapswright126]

😂

[@galaxygoat3768]

$40 phone. If it serves its purpose of being a phone then you can say it's good.

[@MrBoterek]

samsung can't buy the best ram but can afford 10 billion in marketing? youre joking right? LOL!!!

[@MichelePonte]

This video made the worst example ever

[@lburgguy]

Watching on the incredible Umidigi F1. Bought on AliExpress and shipped to USA. LOVE IT!!!

[@ems901]

lburgguy lol it doesn’t even look like your using the English language

[@ibendover4817]

Another thing to consider is resale value. Most popular flagships are easily sold several years later if you've taken care of it, compared to Chinese phones which most people don't know about or have no confidence in buying second hand.

[@JuanGonzalez-dc6gk]

Sorry Zi, but the memory example used with Samsung is really bad. They not only make their own memory, they are a top worldwide suppler. This from 2018 Garner release: "The largest memory supplier, Samsung Electronics, gained the most market share and took the No. 1 position from Intel - the first time Intel has been toppled since 1992," the example you use is presented as a fact and it's just plain false to imply that they "purchase" memory of lower quality

[@ZiReviewsTech]

You are correct, I knew that, I just used the RAM example because when I was recording voiceover, I kept on tripping over hte word CPU/GPU so I just used RAM

[@johnnyl5893]

If I remember correctly, you have to file a pattern in China also to protect you secret. Same in Europe.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

But patent law in China is less strict

[@jounisaari9471]

Zi Reviews Tech Chinese patent law is about as strict as European laws. And Chinese telecommunication companies file really a lot patents. China is WTO Trips agreement member, and they must obey those rules in their national law and law enforcement. However, a small manufacturer sells its phones in Aliexpress.. if patent issues raise, they simply disappear and change design and name a bit. Huawei, Xiao Mi or ZTE can't do that, but they have already a lot patents themselves. One important thing is that Chinese manufacturers have system chip factories close. MediaTek makes most of their chipsets, and it is easy to make new versions of phones with new chipsets, and their documentation is often partly in Chinese only. I quess that the small manufacturers may even change designs to use surplus components. If there is cheap display, battery or touchscreen available, they can make use of them. Chinese have also a network of contractors close. One can get a new plastic or metal parts or circuit boards even next day from a close manufacturer. In Finland you have to order from abroad most stuff like that. And if you want 50000 plastic enclosures it may be best to travel to China to see the manufacturers. Chinese can likely order from the same city most parts.

[@TrojanThugMusic]

Be careful when buying a Chinese phone from GearBest. I got a Xiaomi mi a1 and the part of the LCD has burnt out after 8 months of using.

[@halilganiev4473]

A1 is a dangerous phona

[@alexdegrace6373]

um,so whats happen to your 1 year warranty ?

[@PK2191]

Thanks for commenting that, I was looking through the website.

[@comeonmate3743]

Just buy on Amazon.

[@77blacktrip]

Yeah dont buy from gearbest. Buy from Trading Shenzhen.

[@PetreMihai94]

After spending thousands on brands like Sony and Apple I started thinking about this market. My last phone was Chinese, okay it was a Huawei, but their little brother, Honor. I spent about 500$ for the 64GB Honor 8 when it was brand new and never got disappointed. It had the specs of a 700-1000$ Samsung Apple Whatever, fast, smooth, great battery, marvelous design... and it was so surprisingly well built and actually resistant. How I found out about it? Not advertising but channels like yours which dig into analyzing the far orient technological market. After I found out that I want that phone, I made sure I buy it from a place that, in my case, always accomplished with the warranty policy: Amazon. After an year I had a small issue in the Honor 8, the battery lost about 80 minutes of screen autonomy, nothing a fast charge wouldn't solve, so I wasn't worried, but just in case I contacted Amazon to explain the issue and if they can fix it because I loved the phone and couldn't leave it that fast after just one year. Their solution didn't match my suggestion but instead the option was to give the phone back (which I always took care, using it gently without dropping and with a good case just if something happens) and get a refund of the money I spent on it (which lasted about 3 days to get since the phone was taken care, not the slightest scratch). I felt bad for he Honor 8 but I think it was the best decision since I took all my investment back, added 50$ and went to buy again from Amazon the last monster of Honor which I'm today holding... The Honor View 10, outstanding performance, AI chip, autonomy for 2 days, super fast charge, great camera and for a phone that doesn't cost as a S8 or an iPhone. Really happy with the Honor devices. They are doing a wonderful job.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Thanks for the great thoughts!

[@TheRealShadowspawn]

You sorta got it right about the chips that don't meet specs. I learned this long ago when Pentium chips were competing with Cyrix. Then I met someone in Austin, a designer who was part of the team for the chip burn plates, she worked with and was flown into China from Motorola for a certain type of cell phone chips. Someone screwed up and there were some major bad runs that killed cell phone battery life. Badly. So a new branch of phones simply appeared, just operated slower and were WAY cheaper by a different brand sold by someone different than the original purchaser (Sprint). They were programmed differently to handle the clocked down timing on the processor and memory. It wasn't waste, it was opportunity. They worked, just at slower speeds. It's difficult to fathom at first, but it makes sense. You design and manufacture a car that's supposed to go 200mph. Out of those production runs, maybe 1/10 go 200mph. That doesn't mean the 9/10 of the others are bad, they just start to break down or overheat (or use too much gas) at 200mph. The company gets the 1/10 that paid for them at prime USDA choice prices. So what happens is that a company is offered the subpar cars and buys 5/10 cars that are tested and pass at 150mph. They work fine at 150mph even though the original design was supposed to be 200mph. So they limit the speed at 150mph. Another company buys the 2/10 cars that can only go 120mph. Another company buys the lower end 1/10 which can only go 80mph, and a final company just buys whatever is left over, usually for development or experiments. The car manufacturer is still making money. This is how Motorola worked (Freecell). There would always be "bad batches" where maybe a whole production line failed to meet the 200mph mark, but would still make the 100mph mark. There's going to be a market for that. Motorola still gets money, manufacturers of end products get components for pennies on the dollar, and creativity starts to happen to make these things work. Let me put it a different way: a processor is supposed to run at 2ghz. A lot of them don't. But the majority of them run fine at 1.8ghz. So someone's going to buy all of those and run, cool, program them to run at 1.8ghz. A lot of processor chips that are sold cheaper because they are running and clocked at lower speeds doesn't mean they were designed that way. The processors were *designed* to run, and produced expected to run at 2ghz but failed. If running downclocked at 1.8ghz they run perfect. A few run fine at 2ghz and above yet most fail at 2ghz. All are perfect at 1.8ghz, are fine if downclocked. Same design. Same burn plates. Same production run. It's that way also with memory. They re-tool and re-design because of contracts, but still provide a viable product for those that want them. And on the cheap side. Better something than nothing, and it funds the redesign, production changes, and re-tooling. Ok, let me put it a different way. You have really good bacon that has little fat. It comes in at $10/lb. But you have all this leftover bacon that is way fatty but can be sold at $2/lb. Then you have scrapple. If all you have is fat-back at least you can sell that to get better at providing great bacon. And everyone loves good bacon. Basically chips that fail certain specs can still be used when downclocked, or paired like a poor man's ECC, have cooling solutions on them, less features (or distributed features on other chips to offset the workload), less multitasking, only use one core out of 2, or just used to have fun trying new things out and prototyping, whatever. The person who told me about that bad batch of those cell phone chips showed me the plate errors. Actual photos of the plate design and the errors. Power drains everywhere on those things. A lot of people complained and got new phones. They were from the same run, just clocked lower and with features missing, ones nobody would ever know about, that would make up for the clock speed decrease. That's what happens. That's why certain components cost a ton of money. They meet original design specifications dictated by those that program them. The majority fail but still work below specs. The optimal minority number is the top of the pyramid, the majority are moderate, and the bottom minority amount is the same amount as the top but are darn cheap. Think of a bell curve. There's your answer to why "cheap" is cheap and expensive is expensive.

[@sburton015]

I guess this concept is kinof similar to how Intel, AMD, NVidia and other manufacturers can "bin" their products. For example when Intel was making the Haswell cpus, they tested the batch of newly made chips at say 4.0 ghz and then some of the chips passed quality standards while others didn't. So the chips like say 30% of the CPUs passed quality standards at 4.0 ghz with say 4 core 8 threads. Those chips they would sell as say an i7-4790k. Now say some other chips that didn't met quality standards at the factory at 4.0 ghz, they may say lower the stock speed down to say 3.5 ghz and then sell them as the i7-4770k instead. Thats not to say that the 4770k can't run at 4.0 ghz, but perhaps Intel just figured at that speed, it would need too much voltages or maybe run too hot. Or if it didn't met quality standards at the factory with hyper-threading on, then they may permenantly disable HT and then sell it at a lower price as something like an i5-4690k.

[@descendant0fdragons]

1:58 Wanna buy Chinese Phone you get a chinese knife for free. Ahh that is why it selling so good!

[@yoshyoka]

I think you put lots of sugar coating on the patent issue. Patent law is not non-existent in Shenzhen, it is simply enforced asymmetrically, which means that if a foreign firm sees its patents infringed it can go take a walk, the other way round it's going to be fined. Moreover every foreign company with more than 50 employees must have a local partner and a party official on the board of directors. The result is not that "patent expenses go down and R&D processes streamlined". The reality is that Chinese companies rip off the expensive effort of other companies in R&D and basically get a sumptuous free meal. It should also be added that in the domestic market there is quite some help from the public sector to favor local companies with regulations, public purchases and subsidies. Just these alone make a huge difference.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Now the first 2 lines of your reply I did not know, thanks for the info

[@Mc-je4yb]

This kind of video is way better that you're phone/gadget review as they are almost the same, i only watch unbox and that's it. but this kind of video catches my interest. very nice. ps. i actually thought you are a Chinese.

[@flipp081]

Agree. Very good!

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Thanks for the feedback, feedback is always appreciated

[@eddiecheang1513]

Huawei, Xiao Mi and Oppo are all "Value for Money" products.

[@paulpham699]

They-Chinese steal other countries' intellectuals' Properties

[@gentlemenking2973]

Spionage phone 📱

[@Failedprodegy42]

$178 for my Huawei Honor 6X! I plan to stop buying Samsung phones now.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

That's a great deal

[@mauricelopez1745]

Good for you, now let's compare pictures to my note 8

[@mauriciogago4465]

With a contract you're still paying for the phone though, sometimes you're actually paying even more than it actually costs if you don't use all the contract has to offer.

[@jamesbeaupry9207]

with all the money saved you could buy a dedicated camera that blows the note 8 to slivers

[@attomicchicken]

Bcool L just no dude none of those phones have better quality cameras than a Samsung. And this is conning from a china phone user

[@kennethyoon91]

TBH without Xiaomi using flashsale & small inventory tactics , there wouldn't be any cheap Chinese phone today, for instance Huawei , originally a traditional Mobile phone maker & OEM, creates a spin-off based from their budget product line to create an independent subsidiaries called Honor, and it operates like Xiaomi selling their phone Online only. Gionee have their IUNI, BBK Electronics originally have OPPO & VIVO they create Oneplus Just to Compete in this Online Only Phone Market,

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Yeah these companies have good tactics

[@eddiegardner8232]

WRT DRAM or other commodity IC parts, "failing" a part tester under max rated conditions does not mean the part fails to work, just that it fails to work up to specifications, which often include operation at extremes of temperatures or voltage ranges. Slow down the clock rate or power them to a mid-range target voltage for the part and it may operate flawlessly. Since parts are produced in "batches" from a production run, the batch may include many fully functional parts as well as some that aren't. They can be 100% tested and "binned" into good and marginal parts, with the ones that passed full testing sold to an Apple, and ones that worked but not at extremes sold to another company for a fraction of the price. Truly "dead" parts are typically sorted out when the wafer is tested and never go on to be packaged into finished parts to avoid that production expense. Some parts will fail once built into the device after a few hours of operation due to being heated for soldering. This kind of "infant mortality" is pretty rare today, but can be caught by "burning in" the product under power to see if it still functions after running for a certain amount of time. How often and how long this is done would depend on the quality standard the company is willing to sustain additional costs for doing this, to achieve a near 100% quality of product output, and to reduce the expense of servicing warranty claims for field failures of the product.

[@superstealth385]

It is just marketing An iPhone 7 costs 300 dollars to manufacture But is is priced at 600

[@ZiReviewsTech]

that is one major component

[@ikky_mkb]

video uploaded on january 2018 titled 2019 using facts from 2016 yeah sure

[@movinon1242]

He has been changing the year every year now. Today its 2020. Crooked, just like every other Chinese business.

[@isqan7284]

Me using Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus : Ouh that's my phone in that video 😂😂😂

[@ethanwcheatham]

Video starts at two minutes after begging for subscribers 3 times. Nice.

[@yikes7607]

LMAO! XD

[@zochbuppet448]

Dont be jealous because the guy has good quality content and knows how to make video with quality info. I watched the video the first time and never really noticed it,...why because he knows what hes doing, and he's not annoying and over bearing like most people that make youtube videos. I don't see you guys complaining about other people's video, when they ask you to subscribe.

[@keinunvergebenesaliasgefunden]

Nevertheless clickbait with begging for subscribers is trending on youtube. Maybe it is our opinion on content quality that needs to be adjusted then. *duck & run*

[@luongmaihunggia]

@@zochbuppet448 We do, you just didn't read it. Or sometime we are too lazy to say anything about it and just go "meh, whatever" and fast forward the video.

[@michellevyanca5280]

Watching this on my redmi s2, been using it for a few months now and I love it so far

[@justchillman5158]

Yea,i got a redmi 7 for 225 $. The phone is great, i have many games and apps and it still works perfectly.

[@supergaymer4545]

I am very impressed. You are very good at explaining things.. subscribed

[@helly9015]

you do realise that samsung has way more money than apple? Unlike apple, samsung also makes millitary equipment and a lot of other stuff.

[@Zagoreni02A]

I have my good old LG G2. It served me for years and despite obsolete i do not change it for new, at least not till it works. I still have my Nokia 3310 (oh that was phone, real phone).

[@RonaiHenrik]

Ahh LG G2 was my very first new smartphone (after a used Galaxy S1). I loved it to pieces. It's my girlfriend's phone now but it is really slow and laggy so she's thinking about upgrading to the Pocophone F1. I too still have my Nokie 3310 (although it's the "c" version) just for backup. Battery is kinda dead on that one.

[@Terry.W]

Yep watching on my wonderful Redmi 7 ..it's great easy to use and cheap.

[@eelco8800]

That was very useful to know! especially the parts about xiaomi not earning on their phones and about the lesser quality batches of RAM

[@frozennorthwoods4401]

Almost a year ago my husband got an Umidigi phone, I got an Oukitel, and our teenager of course wanted an Apple. My husband and my phone haven't broken once. Not once. And we are not easy on our phones and have a toddler always grabbing them too. Our son has replaced his screen 5 times, and also the camera and a speaker. He now has an Apple phone "fixing" station on his desk with all the tools needed and regularly fixes all is classmates Apple phones too after they saw his phone. He makes good money at it too. Keep the substandard products coming Apple. He will be able to pay for his own college soon at this rate haha. Consequently our son is going to college this fall for a technology degree.

[@ErikAmerica100]

Aren't all iPhones and the like in our hands at this very moment... Chinese phones?

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

only an idiot would give away 700 dollars for an iphone on top of real price which is 285 dollars.

[@joemoschella6501]

Dude, Huawei already passed the stage where they gave out phones, they used to sell $50 android phones on Amazon.

[@varun009]

Got the huawei honor 8x a few days ago and I love it! Has glass front and back. 20 mp rear dual camera and a 16mp front camera. Couldn't be bothered about the inner specs but it's fast. It's my first ever "high-end" phone. Finally even someone like me can have a phone with a luxury expensive feel without shelling out a lot of cash! Never thought I'd see the day and I can't thank the Chinese enough for it.

[@latoyiahorvath2417]

yup. .. also i like storing and playing lots of audio on it. Search Zillatube with google, it helps

[@janinvinso1287]

.k

[@andthesunsets]

Well researched. Now I want a 100 dollar phone.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

Redmi 4A!

[@laujack24]

try moto e4, literally 40 bucks phone. 100 dollar phone r way over price, wouldn't bother specially on android.

[@ivankastrunje8305]

Meizu m5

[@fliqpythekiller9950]

Zi Reviews Tech redmi note 4!

[@victorflores8407]

Cloudfone Thrill Boost 3 or Cloudfone Thrill Boost 2

[@kenhall6525]

I'm on my 2nd ZTE phone right now, it's over 1 year old and it's flawless, my backup is a 3 year old ZTE which also still works perfectly

[@archivezeroone6952]

the last part of this video seems to imply that chinese phones are all with crapy parts. he didn't say that, but he said apple got the best chips(showing Jobs in the conference), then samsong got second class chips(showing a Koren guy got arrested), then he said the rest got crapies chips (showing some chinese guy with umidigi and then xiaomi). So this guy is purposely using common tricks western media use to imply things trying to wash some idea into your brains. And still he can say he didn't mean any of these. China makes low quality products. this is what he wants to say. and it's still all over the internet. Westerners love to talk like that to confirm with each other that it's still the case so they feel safe, and sleep well with their arrogance assured with their folks.

[@jtoeicer4759]

Very nice insight!I'm from Japan using a UMIDIGI phone but it actually works pretty well!Even a Japanese guy on amazon review admitted that the F1 with its nice display and good specs partially blows away the iPhone and is super nice considering the price.Even though westerners and Asians with the western mind make themselves feeling better by criticizing good quality Chinese budget phones, due to bad economic situation, more and more people in the real world are gonna realize how good those budget phones are so no need to worry of this guy's brain washing thing.lol

[@AveekKumarSharma]

Xioami user here. Indeed, Chinese mobile phones are very low quality devices compared to Apple and Samsung. Accept it. It is a fact and I am not from West. I am from Malaysia.

[@CuongNguyen-le5ic]

If you actually live in China, you will learn one thing, most stuffs won't last more than 1 or 2 years. Many foreigners who live in China for over a DECADE lives by this rule, that's why they can buy new stuffs all the time in China because things don't last.

[@shugendosama28]

@@CuongNguyen-le5ic *I like what are you talking about. But are things better with this in your country?*

[@CuongNguyen-le5ic]

@@shugendosama28 Despite all the hardship, yes definitely better than China. Why you ask? Because at least the government can't just change the rules and you are screwed. Like P2P Lender, it has state-sponsored in China, but then suddenly the changed the rules and most people who not only lost their money, but also have bad Social Credit Score.

[@rkpetry]

*_...but the real problem in China is that they don't credit their-own top-engineers to do their own hard/firm/software on google/android/microsoft/windows/etc.-and avoid creeping-patent-housing; they should be multisourcing/design-pushing 'as business' (think of that as addon-genetics where every, body, is high-tech ready-for-upgrade, a century ago that was 'royalty', now paid on high school performances of "Archie©")..._*

[@propfella]

I bought a cheap Chinese phone 2 years ago and it's still working with no trouble. Once, when it was 2 months old it refused to boot after charging, but a reboot fixed it and it hasn't happened since. I just managed to buy a new battery for it, BUT I think that's all she wrote. Nobody is making batteries any more. I will have to find on which fits and solder it in place, but by then it'll be around 4 years old. It cost me $99 AUD or around $65 USD.

[@justinisenberg1841]

Who else in here has a Chinese phone ? I'm watching this on my Huawei and there's nothing "cheap" about it. Better than iPhones I've had that's for sure.

[@cnccarving]

they are good i had huawei, and only water damage made buy another one then bought LG phone same good

[@andrew_koala2974]

► The Horrible Truth about Apple's Repeated Engineering Failures. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4bEe2umedGrn5o Why APPLE products are rotten to the core

[@PaulNewfield-PasadenaCAU-wb4xg]

Andrew_koala Apples repeated engineering mistakes? I don’t remember any iPhones exploding in people’s pockets? Engineering innovations would be the most appropriate description for what Apple has accomplished over the years! It doesn’t matter what brand of cell phone you have, whatever it is, it’s a copy, a knock off, a cheap imitation of Apples iPhone 📱! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

[@siddulaanirudh]

@@PaulNewfield-PasadenaCAU-wb4xg uhh.... Um... Okay.

[@gruffbikerdude1206]

Geez I remember a time when you used to buy a phone to make and receive calls on. Nevertheless, I'm still picking up a Redmi Note 5 this week.

[@UmbrellaSound]

I still use my Motorola ROKR E1 as my backup phone till this day lol.

[@tenc6491]

I am using Realme X2 Pro EU version with 12/256gb variant. One of the best phone I've had so far. I've used Samsung and Huawei all my life (hate iPhone) But couldn't stop switching to Realme X2 Pro and I'm immensely happy with my decision. A beautiful, powerful, strong and an efficient smartphone. It's indeed a flagship killer and costs just 499 euros. Wth like seriously? Yes...... It's awesome.... Really awesome!

[@Chu3505]

Still always come down to it is.About 98% of the products of the world is.You get what you pay for it as any consumers products.

[@ZiReviewsTech]

what do you mean?

[@Interdimensionales]

Same Chinese factories where Iphone are made and under paid people with a larger profit marge

[@AurioDK]

I bought the Umidigi F1 which I am very very pleased with. Do remember however, a Chinese worker is paid 4-5 dollars an hour and often works 12 hour shifts, compare that to f.ex. a Danish electrician who gets about 35 dollars an hour with strictly regulated time plus a ton of benefits and you get the picture.

[@harynjk]

This is a cool video! Thanks for your research on this topic!

[@ZiReviewsTech]

No problem glad you liked it

[@KobraToldYa]

Awesome! Watched the whole thing which is rare lol. I have been intrigued with Xiaomi and Huawei technology for about the past year. Keep up the great work.

[@CZpersi]

Also no workers’ rights, no unions, lower safety standards, employment of children, prisoner labor...

[@petergama6074]

Got a expensive one plus 7 pro 12 BG ram 256gb memory and so on 90hz screen and I ABSOLUTELY FUKING LOVE IT BEST PHONE EVER

[@M_H_H]

Not a budget phone

[@roblamb8327]

Peter Gama Assuming your comment was made using your expensive 'phone, it's a shame that it doesn't have a working spellchecker. And if it wasn't made from the 'phone, then you need to use one.

[@petergama6074]

@@roblamb8327 look mate many people like to have every word corrected I speak in 2 languages and multiple times it corrects the words in the wrong language and switching is a pain also the price of the phone doesn't affect the spell checker it is a Android or google function that you can activate and disable the phone is a lot of fun and I love it I had budget phones and there is noticible difference in many aspects but spec vise the price doesn't match the performance

[@Seh_the_h_is_silent]

That lack of patent regulation is genius.

[@jhuang8538]

That what the european have been doing in the ancient time. Steal other peoples' tech and use them. Now the same thing happened to them and they cry "STEALING" to others.

[@Seh_the_h_is_silent]

@@jhuang8538 I have no idea what you are on about. Because if you just equated ancient Rome with modern technological advances then your logic is flawed. Also I was being serious. No patents means no copywriter protection yes but it also means freedom and accessibility of knowledgefor the everyone else.

[@ReinoldFZ]

@@jhuang8538 do you have some examples? I am not European and have not issue in admit that most technological advances are from European culture. Scientific knowledge true in important cases went there from India, Iran or Egypt but those societies usually did not use them to evolve their technology, and also they profited to know other cultures. The only event close to what you write I recall is in the Punic wars when Rome applied reverse engineering to a wrecked Phoenician ship.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

That's a very nice diplomatic way to say intellectual property supported - and encouraged - by the Chinese government

[@movinon1242]

Chinese enforce patent law if someone steals from the Chinese. Its called being completely corrupt and dishonest (like this clown in the video).

[@iwasthinking3639]

I think the reason is that China has the largest mobile phone users and there are many mobile phone companies, and their competition is fierce.

[@davemills6701]

After using Samsung for years I just bought a Xiaomi redmi note 7. What a brilliant phone

[@zaraguth]

Hoping for one for Christmas

[@zaraguth]

Hey, I've been hearing about wifi problems, are you experiencing any?

[@andreanhristov4531]

@@zaraguth I have redmi 7 and there is no issues at all. One of the best phone for the price , i doubt there is any diffirence with the expensive phones

[@zaraguth]

@@andreanhristov4531 Very nice, thanks for replying. Expecting to get mine on Saturday :)

[@andreanhristov4531]

@@zaraguth the only problem is you wont be able to move applications to sd card , so o advice you to get with bigger internal memory . I made mistake taking with 32 gb and if you like having 20 gameas at the same time it wont be possible , because the new gamea are at least 2 gb and more.

[@dgerdi]

„The Money here is as colorful as Monopoly Money“ - Mate, it IS Monopoly „Money“. In fact it is no Money at all. It’s currency. Gold and Silver are Money. Everything else is credit (and fake).

[@phuqizm1547]

Umidigi doesn't even make the phone until you order it. I ordered the a5 pro flash sale for $80 in May. It's been a month and my phone still hasn't even seen the production line.

[@atzevanderkam9081]

Its presale, so its not even out yet (since today its out) so shipping starts now till 8th of july. follow their instagram and check the comments. bought it too for 86 euros so! enjoy

[@Mirsab]

2:00 Just bought the xiaomi Redmi 5 plus this week for my father.

[@meihooman7561]

That's really nice of you. :)

[@sevendst19]

the last time I spent more than 100 on a phone was a decade ago.

[@Ami_E_Bowen]

I just ordered five different smartphones from Wish. I was curious as to how they’d fair. Especially since they were only $2 to $3 each. One is a rugged Vernee phone, A Huawei Mate 9, An Oukitel, and a Meiigoo S8. (I said 5 cause I accidentally ordered the Oukitel twice lol )

[@dragons_red]

This video is perfect for me because I am in 2019!

[@xynn3rx116]

The IPhone users salt is real :)

[@rkpetry]

*_...Shenzhen goods still run into Patent problems including fake complaints where some American company buys a phone and upgrades a piece of hard/firm/software and then patents that they own the rights to that upgrade contrary to their OEM but their target is the Shenzhen goods that don't and the OEM looks the other way..._*

[@fionn5813]

This video was uploaded in January 2018 yet says “in 2019...”

[@noanotherperson4348]

Old Flagship > New Budget

[@walidfakhfakh3660]

TechGaming you are just poor

[@M_H_H]

I disagree. My s7 edge performs much poorer than 2019 mi 9

[@walidfakhfakh3660]

Hey google search for cheap smartphones under 200$ no not on youtube stop dont send

[@noanotherperson4348]

@@walidfakhfakh3660True

[@yme4me]

@@M_H_H Hi man, I am about to buy s7 edge,how is the battery in these days ? I heard it cant hold charge for a full day anymore, is this truth ?

[@jericosangbaan4688]

I'm watching this on my Xiaomi Mi Mix 6/256 that i bought last 2018 january. Look it up, ceramic unibody, edge to edge screen, snapdragpn 821 and it still turn heads as we speak. Lovin it still and cant even think of replacing it. It has never failed ms, and im a power user, gaming and all. Ive had several phones before like oppo, and couple of samsung. chinese build quality is not what i thought it would be. And im not even chinese

[@medqenmedness229]

For Xiaomi, I'm pretty sure that the crappy parts are the cameras, the crap that sony and Samsung didn't put on their phones, but I still buy Xiaomi because its excellent in other stuff and has an addictive ecosystem

[@vladimirlucifer4566]

Mi8 cameras are the 4th best....

[@chrischoy9]

But their cheapo dashcams are pretty good. I have one and it can honestly capture licence plates at night without problem and it uses Sony sensors.

[@Zendarkos]

Xiaomi cheated on DxOMark tests

[@tunggulsujarwob.archmba7751]

Whatever the reasons, affordable price is the king in the ordinary market. Too large gab differences of price also making a question then lost the market share. Thats all also the fact and face it.

[@Fgghgrgrhgfnvkmd]

hold on a minute, so we're discussing why Chinese phones are cheap in 2020 with a video released in 2018? hmmm interesting

[@lemuelb.2409]

I like Xiaomi products! I have Mi A1, Yee light, Xiaomi tripod 🤭

[@infiltr80r]

They don't last well. I was happy at first when I bought the Mi3 but after 5 years everything is failing. Meanwhile my 11 year old iPhone still works flawlessly.

[@HeartBlackUnknown]

@@infiltr80r loool y am happy if my pocophone f1 will last 2-3 years before y buy a new smart phone .

[@infiltr80r]

@@HeartBlackUnknown Low standards then. There is no reason why it should only last that long. Phones are like fridges and washing machines now, white goods, they should last a decade or more with battery exchanges.

[@ericmalenfant5169]

@@infiltr80r Apart from making phone calls your 11 years iphone is completely useless today... If my half-price-than-iphone Xiaomi last 5 years I will be more than happy. If you think that big brands always mean better build quality than you're wrong. My last samsung TV lasted only 4 years, I also got a LG G3 phone that lasted less than 2 years...

[@infiltr80r]

@@ericmalenfant5169 I am not talking about being obsolete technology-wise, that's a completely separate topic. I am talking about components failing early, that is a sign of quality. The iPhone screen is as good as new and everything works, the battery is dying but that is expected. And I can absolutely connect to a wi-fi and go online. What's useless about it anyway? That's like saying "your Porsche from 1959 is useless because you don't have a working aircon". And I try to buy the best product available for the money, I have zero interest in brands. My current phone is a Nokia 6.1 which cost about 110€, very pleased with it generally, much better than anything Xiaomi has to offer, no spam in it. And I'm in Asia so I have access to all the Chinese phones, the fake spyware brands and the better ones. Xiaomi had multiple issues for me and many others, from a never working GPS module after an update to unresponsive screen - I needed to restart it often as the touchscreen refused to co-operate.

[@rkpetry]

*_...a-half-century-ago we conformal-coated to prevent/obliterate reverse-engineering-tampering because we had so-much-high-tech that it'd crush the economy to patent it all (engineers blow patents out their noses); the kickback on that was that we couldn't find federal government buyers for all our technology, (cf the 1981 PATCO walk strike over lack of federal-backed equipment upgrades while FAA-okay-planes dry-tanked)..._*

[@skatesuperbaby]

I have Chinese Meizu MX5 from 2015. Still using it, works almost as good as new. Is not even slower compared to the time when it was new.

[@shancyroesner9212]

JDM is cheaper than American brands (Car guys will understand)

[@jorislal]

I got a xiaomi redmi 4x, 4100mAh battery phone, greate specs, 100eur

[@ZiReviewsTech]

That's a great phone

[@Italy-ball]

But I thought this video was made in 2018! Why does it say 2020?