The Real Reason Tadej Pogačar WILL NEVER WIN the Tour de France AGAIN

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thecyclingdane

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@benibf
@benibf 4 ай бұрын
Well, this title didn't age very well, did it.
@siyabulelatshali1012
@siyabulelatshali1012 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤞🤞🤞🤞
@methushafernando8270
@methushafernando8270 Ай бұрын
Yh😂
@umutaymakoglu4418
@umutaymakoglu4418 Жыл бұрын
He started the season in a great form, he crashed and lost training and came second in TdF, then got his form back. I think he had a fantastic 2023 given the circumstances. I have no doubt he has the capacity to win at least 2 grand tours in the same season. He can win many many more races is because he can suffer so much and can keep going.
@James-J-J-J
@James-J-J-J 4 ай бұрын
The Q at the end should now be “Will Jonas V win a TdF ever again?”
@JaPakaj
@JaPakaj Жыл бұрын
Spicy title, bit click-baity, no? No one can predict the future. Greetings from Slovenia, love and respect to Jonas!
@saturnative
@saturnative Жыл бұрын
Total click bait!
6 ай бұрын
Tadej: HOLD MY BEER...
@nt78stonewobble
@nt78stonewobble Жыл бұрын
Certainly Pogi, if he's feeling well or possibly even on bad days, still makes the races better, for everyone watching, by being in them. He's just that much of character on the bike and as a person.
@Morpheus0000
@Morpheus0000 6 ай бұрын
Watching the Giro, this hasn't aged well.
@GbabyAllan
@GbabyAllan 5 ай бұрын
that was the giro..tour is different
@Morpheus0000
@Morpheus0000 5 ай бұрын
@@GbabyAllan yeah, I've heard it's in a totally different country!
@GbabyAllan
@GbabyAllan 5 ай бұрын
@@Morpheus0000 there is that as well.. 🤣🤣🤣 July isn't far
@TylerPurcell1
@TylerPurcell1 5 ай бұрын
We'll see the form of the other galacticos soon enough. Part of the point made about vingegaard was his focus on Grand Tours limited risk and helped him peak in July. Tadej's giro form should be considered compared to others recovering from injury. ​@GbabyAllan
@samuelmagalhaes3372
@samuelmagalhaes3372 4 ай бұрын
​@@GbabyAllan tour doesn't look too different 😂
@GregBecker
@GregBecker Жыл бұрын
I think he will... if he focuses on it. Until his next TdF win, I hope he keeps being the most exciting bike rider, winning monuments, strada bianchis, one week races and grand tours...
@CHRoOMAX
@CHRoOMAX Жыл бұрын
Not as long as Vingegaard is competing for it as well
@nazgulzg
@nazgulzg 11 ай бұрын
@@CHRoOMAX Vingegaard is born for TDF but Pogacar is the best rider in the world and he can win everything - that's his blessing and curse because Jonas and TJV will bring all they got to TDF and Pogacar will want to win classics/monuments and all one day races as well. Form wise, Jonas will always be a favorite on TDF because Pogacar is a racer and will compete in every race UAE teams let him participate before TDF - not just preparation races for TDF like Dauphine or Basque country. And even now you can see that - he will race Strade Bianchi, Milan-San Remo, Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Giro d'Italia before TDF - he's crazy!
@oliviernoir6669
@oliviernoir6669 8 ай бұрын
I am French and I am so fed up with the tour de France being the only thing that matters. This is so great to see lots of good riders fighting in the classics, spring races etc.... I prefer to see Pogacar win tour of Flanders (even if I would prefer WVA to win!), Liège Bastogne Liège etc. rather than not seeing him until July for his big win. And still I am pretty confident he will win the Tour de France again.
@GregBecker
@GregBecker 8 ай бұрын
​@@oliviernoir6669 And TP still looks like he loves racing his bike! The performances in the recent Catalunya race (where his preparation included a podium in Milan San Remo) was impressive (4x first places, and a 2nd)... and if anything, he is now ticking off his list of 2024 goals. If he is able to get a lead in the Giro, and ride the last week on maintenance, it will turn out to be great TdF training!
@7164G
@7164G 6 ай бұрын
@@CHRoOMAX Jonas can only dream of winning monuments.. never going to happen.. mark my words ;)
@theblackandwhitefilmproject
@theblackandwhitefilmproject Жыл бұрын
The incomplete preparation TDF 2023 due to the broken wrist should not be underestimated.
@holmbjerg
@holmbjerg Жыл бұрын
If the wrist and lack of preparation was key, shouldn't he be better towards the end of the Tour instead of in the beginning? If his preparation was lacking, he should have ridden into better form. Instead he was pretty good in the beginning but broke down in the end.
@theblackandwhitefilmproject
@theblackandwhitefilmproject Жыл бұрын
@@holmbjerg He was undercooked with his training because of the wrist which is why he faltered in the 3rd week. Still an amazing achievement coming 2nd with a lack of sufficient preparation.
@bullten5416
@bullten5416 Жыл бұрын
​@@holmbjergHe lacked substance in the third week because he did not do a stage race in preparation (a week-long race at least). And apart from the stage where he lost everything, he still won the last mountain stage in the third week.
@TheGotoGeek
@TheGotoGeek Жыл бұрын
@@holmbjergPreparation is very, very different from racing.
@elinoracedo7430
@elinoracedo7430 Жыл бұрын
Pogi has to be careful in his race schedule. He should focus more on stage racing and not include classics or monuments. The more you race the higher the risk of getting injured.
@FlyingPastilla
@FlyingPastilla Жыл бұрын
I believe that if Pogacar focuses on the Tour again he'll win it. He peaked in the spring and lost twice in a row, I assume he learned his lesson and that the potential competition from developping riders like Ayuso will push him to focus on GT for a couple of years. If winning worlds is also one of his major goals, peaking for the Tour will serve him well. Hope he makes the right choices in 2024.
@Legionarivss
@Legionarivss 10 ай бұрын
He's heading to the Giro this year, do you consider that a good choice for his changes at a double? Also depends on what kind of Giro we're going to get, if the weather is decent for may standards and he doesn't go for broke as much. (Roglic vs Thomas like) Who knows how he could come out of the Giro.
@NolanManauis
@NolanManauis 4 ай бұрын
Now you will eat your words
@philipallen6220
@philipallen6220 5 ай бұрын
I think this headline might soon be history.
@thecyclingdane
@thecyclingdane 5 ай бұрын
Hahahah very much so but wait for week 3
@luxste
@luxste 4 ай бұрын
​@@thecyclingdane ...still waiting. 😊
@siyabulelatshali1012
@siyabulelatshali1012 2 ай бұрын
........🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Bennettcustomaudio
@Bennettcustomaudio 10 ай бұрын
While Jonas certainly exposed the cracks in Pogi’s armour, I think it’s going to be a different story this year when it’s Jonas vs Pogi vs Roglic vs Evenepoel, rather than the 1 on 1 battles we’ve seen the last few years.
@Veronsome
@Veronsome 8 ай бұрын
And how good is this going to be? I pray they will all make it to the start line in strong form
@buddhahat
@buddhahat Жыл бұрын
Has Roglic used up all his bad luck? Will Bora have the supporting cast to lead him to a TdF victory? 2024 will be a fascinating season to watch no matter what!
@klaudioserdoz5193
@klaudioserdoz5193 Жыл бұрын
By the way, Tadej Pogačar is not any sort of a king, but he is an exceptional sportsman, and deserves to be addressed as such 🙈
@nomdaploom
@nomdaploom 6 ай бұрын
He has more right to be called a "king" of his sport than those who inherit such titles because of their so-called noble blood. Get off your knees.
@kashifite
@kashifite 4 ай бұрын
who is here after he won the double
@oscarw1060
@oscarw1060 Жыл бұрын
I mean something will go wrong for Vingegaard at the tour eventually, so Pogi will have plenty more chances. Will he ever start the tour as the #1 favourite again? Maybe not. But he'll never be easy to beat
@telmolicious
@telmolicious Жыл бұрын
Maybe.. or Maybe he Will do a Lance.
@leonardong8067
@leonardong8067 4 ай бұрын
& now, he wins both..
@JDomed-so4rl
@JDomed-so4rl 4 ай бұрын
And he took that personally 😂
@thecyclingdane
@thecyclingdane 4 ай бұрын
Hahahahhaha
@archiebarr4423
@archiebarr4423 4 ай бұрын
This aged terribly
@anrakspumante5958
@anrakspumante5958 6 ай бұрын
Last year he wasnt in perfect form as you know. He crashes hard at Liege-Bastogne-Liege and his preparation for the TdF wasnt very good. This year Vingegaard had a even harder crash, normally we should also see the difference at the TdF. With the other Favorites Evanepoel and Roglic (maybe with his last chance) we can hope for a epic TdF :) Pogacar has dominated the Giro like no other in modern cycling before, lets see if he can do it again. His Team will be even stronger (Adam Yates, Joao Almeida, Juan Ayuso, Marc Soler, Tim Wellens, Nils Politt, Sivakov)!
@tampafoxx
@tampafoxx 8 ай бұрын
all it will take is one bad day for jonas in the tour and the story will change. in fact, he's been eerily 100% on form last 2 tours, so it's eventually going to come around that something will give and he'll have a bad day. pogi in the last 2 tours, had at least 2 or more bad days, and a broken wrist that wrecked his prep.
@valeblack3393
@valeblack3393 6 ай бұрын
2024 we’ll see 👽
@WheatleyClips
@WheatleyClips 4 ай бұрын
Aged like milk left in the sun
@philipcarson8438
@philipcarson8438 6 ай бұрын
The Lego robot from Denmark is soooo boring. At the Giro, Tadje showed real personality and class.
@luxste
@luxste 4 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more!
@mracer8
@mracer8 10 ай бұрын
Since Tadej is only 25, I say he will win another 2 tdf if he/team decide to concentrate on it on some year!
@escolacelebrare
@escolacelebrare 4 ай бұрын
Has this aged well?? hahahahaha
@thecyclingdane
@thecyclingdane 4 ай бұрын
Hahahahahahah
@ProfessorBaugus
@ProfessorBaugus 7 ай бұрын
UAE is both the stronger team now and Pogacar is the better all around rider. Jonas will not be there and all he does is Grand Tours mean while Tadej has won 6 monuments and counting. Tadej's weakness is hot days not long climbs.
@miguelteixeira4134
@miguelteixeira4134 Жыл бұрын
Saving this video for July
@tilmania361
@tilmania361 Жыл бұрын
the people saying jonas is unbeatable now probably thought pogi was unbeatable 2 years ago and before that they thought bernal was unbeatable. i also thought novak djokovic was unbeatable vs the current gen on grass but alcaraz beat him in wimbledon (and that wasnt even a hot take by me). not to mention this is pogacar we are speaking of, it was also IMPOSSIBLE for him to win flanders as a TDF winner
@ThisIsANameBruh
@ThisIsANameBruh Жыл бұрын
Pogacar in 2023 showed that he can go against Vingegaard in the Tour. He dropped vingegaard several times on the finals of climbs and could hang with him on the Tourmalet. He got dropped due to bad preparation. If he's in full focus for the Tour he can just hang with Vingegaard on any climb and outsprint him for bonus seconds. A caveat: he's never had a Grand Tour without at least one quite bad day AND VIngegaard's 3rd week ITT seems surreal. But i truly do think Pog showed extreme climbing levels this year.
@alaefarmestatesllc
@alaefarmestatesllc Жыл бұрын
Dropped Jonas several times” nah, Jonas was just playing with him up until the TT.
@ThisIsANameBruh
@ThisIsANameBruh Жыл бұрын
@@alaefarmestatesllc this is literally the single most stupid thing I've ever read in terms of race analysis.
@gerlachsieders4578
@gerlachsieders4578 Жыл бұрын
You can also turn this around: Tadej never managed to truly drop Jonas on his favourite climbs, short, steep, explosive... and then gets crushed by Jonas on the long climbs at altitude..
@ThisIsANameBruh
@ThisIsANameBruh Жыл бұрын
@@gerlachsieders4578 sure, I agree. I think Jonas is just a better grand tour rider. I'm just saying that after 2022 I thought Pog didn't stand a chance. Now I think he does. Even if Jonas is inherently better.
@pedrodiogo4807
@pedrodiogo4807 Жыл бұрын
@@alaefarmestatesllc Jonas was definitely not playing around when he was dropped by Pogacar on the Tourmalet stage...
@lf4114
@lf4114 11 ай бұрын
You bring up good arguments, but i think Jumbo won't give up the Giro to UAE this easy without having Roglic anymore. So they need a pretty good setup. Some of these guys are also needed for the Tour. I think UAE and especially Pogacar does have a pretty good chance this year to ride in both GTs for place 1. And don't forget the gravel-stage in this years TdF, which is in my opinion a big plus for Pogacar. So for me I'm still a Pogiliever :D :D But in the end we all can't say if both riders or better both teams stay healthy and uninjured, because this can skip the whole situation...
@richardb8220
@richardb8220 9 ай бұрын
He’s 25 years old….a bit too soon to make such a bold prediction.
@Znoxz
@Znoxz Жыл бұрын
I belive he can win it if he is doing the same preparation as Jonas Vingegaard and maybe trying to play the long run instead of going for the many stage wins bc he gets tired and will suffer at the most important week we have seen that plenty of times now
@kristofrookx8452
@kristofrookx8452 10 ай бұрын
He's bigger than the tdf
@fastfreddy9341
@fastfreddy9341 11 ай бұрын
I think it comes down to focusing...he obviously has the talent and has proved it.
@jtalley8191
@jtalley8191 11 ай бұрын
Pogacar's weakness is he can't ride in hot temperatures. That is the only one. He will excel in the spring classics but he will not do well in the TDF if there are hot mountain stages. Roglic is the opposite, he does well in warm temps but not good in cold. Not sure about Vingo, we haven't seen any weakness yet.
@alinapopescu872
@alinapopescu872 5 ай бұрын
And then came the spring of 2024 and everythinh changed...
@mumblerapkilla5406
@mumblerapkilla5406 Жыл бұрын
Visma-Lease-A-Bike will be comprimised next Tour on the rouleur front. No Van Hooydonk (made the long kms hard) or WVA (big loss), as the former was forced to retire and the latter is going to the Giro. Making the race hard all throughout the Tour, and not just on the final climb, worked in Vingegaard's favour.
@Znoxz
@Znoxz Жыл бұрын
But wout could still do the tour de france we have seen that before in the past
@Queen-be6md
@Queen-be6md Жыл бұрын
He wants to do olympics and Worlds so I don't think the tour fits those ambition, Giro+vuelta would be a better calendar.@@Znoxz
@ekm3820
@ekm3820 11 ай бұрын
Don’t sleep on Jumbo. They have personnel to replace Wout and Nathan
@vladipp2850
@vladipp2850 Жыл бұрын
I agree with many things you say, but I would not be so hard on Pogacar. First, he suffered a serious injury which forced him off the bike before the Tour. Second, Vingo (also a total class act) also benefitted from extraordinary team support from Kuss, Van Aert and Kelderman & Co, which Pogacar did not have. Jumbo's repeated attacks meant that Poga had to burn (too) many extra matches, and ultimately paid for it. Third, Poga not only wants to win the Tour, but also Classics/one day races. That means he does not aim for a single peak in July like Vingegaard but multiple peaks, which are much harder to achieve. Having said that both are absolute class acts -- and Vingegaard seems to have become slightly better still on the very long climbs. Looking forward to the 2024 TdF. Cheers!
@swissbiggy
@swissbiggy Жыл бұрын
You do know that Vingegaard did have more race days than Pogacar the last few seasons ? And you do know that Vingegaard did already win his first races of the 2023 season in February and that he kept on racing until the end of the Vuelta ? So I am sorry to say that your view on Vingegaard is not entirely correct, he did race the entire season except in the month of May. Not by coincidence Pogacar did not have planned any race either in the month of May, because Liege-Bastogne-Liege was his last race before the Tour de France anyway. After Liege-Bastogne-Liege Pogacar and his girlfriend did have a holiday planned, and only after that the preparations for this years Tour would have started. So when we break down the numbers we do see that Pogacar didn't mis any training or altitude camp. When we do again check the numbers and listen to Pogacars his own comments, we do see that Pogacar was never as good as in this years Tour de France. We can all check that data, because most of it is posted online by the teams or riders. He did never before performe this good and produce these amount of watts. Don't understand me wrong please, I am a huge fan of Pogacar (Like I am a huge fan of 99% of the pro riders), but in Grand Tours Vingegaard has by now proven to be better in the high mountain stages and time trials. When I read your post it is almost like if you are looking for excuses. But Pogacar does not need that, he's a great rider and will win many, many more beautiful races. But he will need luck or crash from Vingegaard if he wants to beat our Danish friend in a Grand Tour. ✌
@vladipp2850
@vladipp2850 Жыл бұрын
@@swissbiggy don't "be sorry" (you sound a bit pretentious mr "biggy" lol, you must be a vip in switzerland ). I simply stated #3 facts above (it's a fact Pogacar did miss training intensity w/ broken wrist). Of course Vingegaard was superior at the TdF and Poga cracked on stage #17; he had an ideal preparation to the TdF peak, was backed by a stronger team and certainly did not take the risks that Pogacar did (by racing to win classics @ full gas). A wise choice that paid off. Objectively, Vingegard is deservedly the favorite to win next year's tdf. But the number race days in this case doesn't really change anything, mr "Biggy" (lol). Vingegard raced and won races to peak at the Tour, and was again at an incredible level at the Vuelta. Pogacar won il Lombardia. I actually peg them on a very similar level of absolutely incredible class acts. Have a nice day! : )
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 11 ай бұрын
Patrick is a great presenter. But pump the "Boy racer's best days are behind him" brakes. He could win 4 more TDFs and everyone would say they saw it coming.
@7164G
@7164G 4 ай бұрын
This video is slowly starting to age like milk.. 🍼
@harrygraham2028
@harrygraham2028 Жыл бұрын
Pogo will win again I can all guarantee it
@MEB939
@MEB939 10 ай бұрын
Predictions like this in cycling are ridiculous. Worse, they’re ignorant of the sport’s history - I suppose if YT existed in 1950 you’d have been saying Coppi was done.
@ashleyfrancis2903
@ashleyfrancis2903 11 ай бұрын
Of course he can win again. I think Jumbo-Visma’s domestiques make a huge difference giving them the advantage. The key will be if UAE can, as a team, match Jumbo, or if in future Pogi moves to another team like Ineos.
@mexfu5142
@mexfu5142 Жыл бұрын
I think Pogi could win, he was just very unlucky in the last two years in 2022 he was beat by Jumbo Visma on the importan stages because his team couldn't support him, and this year he failed in the last week because of his lack of fitness , because he missed all his races and couldn't prepare properly, but I think if he concentrates his efforts in the season on the Tour, he can easily win.
@jeffkuzzen
@jeffkuzzen 11 ай бұрын
Easily win? Youre mad.
@mexfu5142
@mexfu5142 11 ай бұрын
@@jeffkuzzen easily win meaning that it well in the realm of possibility and not impossible or close to it of course it is not easy to win the Tour
@konaek21v
@konaek21v 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffkuzzen he said can easily win, not win easily
@JowWhyt
@JowWhyt 4 ай бұрын
someone gonna eat his BS words...
@josephbangs6111
@josephbangs6111 11 ай бұрын
No Wout this year for Visma. Let’s see how that impacts Visma
@JohnJance-nh4dl
@JohnJance-nh4dl 11 ай бұрын
He will win!
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
Mate I know you're Danish, but never speak ill of Poggi. The Zone 2 load you've to do 5 weeks before the tour is 5 hours a day in the morning. He couldn't for the arm. He came 2nd in the tour, we a huge margin to the third one.
@thecyclingdane
@thecyclingdane Жыл бұрын
The narrator is Ewan and not danish plus a big Pogacar fan :P
@elhombredesangrenegra3438
@elhombredesangrenegra3438 Жыл бұрын
@@thecyclingdane still the narrator is reading your script in the end bc he gets paid for it xD Love both riders, such a great rivalry
@rossbroomfield5199
@rossbroomfield5199 Жыл бұрын
Calling Jonas dry and pragmatic is very unfair. He is a firework compared to team sky and to be honest every other GC rider apart from Pogacar. Yeah he doesn’t attack when he has a three minute lead but why would you? When it’s a lot closer Jonas and jumbo are highly aggressive - look at week 1 & 2 of the 2023 tour. Even 2022 he attacked first on planch and obviously stage 11 while very clever was perhaps the most aggressive GC cycling ever nit to mention him attacking on ventoux in 2021. He may not go for bonus seconds in flat finishes but that’s not his strong suit (it is for pogi) - when the conditions favour him more in even short steep climbs he is an exciting rider to watch.
@luxste
@luxste 4 ай бұрын
Jonas is seriously the most wheel-sucking, boring rider to watch. He will NEVER be as exciting and fun as Tadej. Never. It's just not his personality, which is fine...just boring.
@rossbroomfield5199
@rossbroomfield5199 4 ай бұрын
​@@luxste I'm not saying he is as "exciting" as Tadej (few are as aggressive) but he is a dam sight more exciting than the likes of Thomas, Mas, Roglic, most other GC riders. In every stage race he is always attacking on multiple stages whether he is in form or not. Other GC rider might half attack once before sitting down on the final climb because someone is in the wheel. Jonas tries to ride people of the wheel attacks multiple times, him and his team have been the architects of some of the most exciting stages in recent years. Just because over the last two years he has had a large advantage on Tadej in the TDF so has decided understandably to protect that advantage rather than risk everything especially when hes unlikely to gap pogacar in a burst. I love how your arguments are just "he is just boring" without providing any basis for this argument.
@annarien4333
@annarien4333 Жыл бұрын
All things being equal and no one having any misfortunes, crashes, illnesses... Pogi can have perfect form and he won't beat Jonas in his perfect form. The third week will always tell.
@perryfeyk1449
@perryfeyk1449 Жыл бұрын
He's won two, and finished second last year after an injury and restricted training rehab that would have had anyone else skip the Tour. Then, he finished second. This year's course suits him better than Jonas, and how will Jonas and Visma do against now Roglic and Tadeg, without Wout and Van Hoydonc to help? UAE could well be the strongest team, with bears Berg on the flats and podium man Adam in the mountains.
@mondo851
@mondo851 Жыл бұрын
At 25 years of age, Pogi might not yet be over the hill. If he avoids injury and illness, I expect he'll win the 2024 Tour de France.
@josorzo11
@josorzo11 Жыл бұрын
He most definitely will
@Memovox
@Memovox Жыл бұрын
No. Cope and seethe, lol
@Pmor75
@Pmor75 11 ай бұрын
Don't worry Pogi will win the tour again.
@harryleland9342
@harryleland9342 11 ай бұрын
Is he still in the running for the White Jersey Again. This Young Dude is a beast and super like-able. Helped me with European Geography too, as I had no idea where Slovenia 🇸🇮 was before I watched him destroy the field.
@mc48197
@mc48197 9 ай бұрын
No. Pogi has aged out of the white jersey. He's an old man of 25-yo. 😆
@gideonmthembu8693
@gideonmthembu8693 Жыл бұрын
He will win it. He has the ambitions
@fyahwerks
@fyahwerks Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't right him off so soon at just 26?
@bbuuttercupp
@bbuuttercupp 10 ай бұрын
Not even. 25!
@Zephyr653
@Zephyr653 Жыл бұрын
Pogi can absolutely win the TdF in ‘24. His wrist injury clearly hampered his training leading up to the tour last summer. If Tadej is in form and has support from his team, he is the favorite. JV is also weakened with Primoz joining bora. I think Pog will be laser-focused on the tour, as will Jonas and Roglic. Should be a joy to watch.
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc Жыл бұрын
IDC if he wins the tour again. He should go win the other two grand tours and stage hunt and be one of these 2 best cyclists ever
@HolgerDanske874
@HolgerDanske874 Жыл бұрын
He won't be one of the two greatest cyclists ever if he can't beat his main rival in the biggest race of the year ...
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc Жыл бұрын
You don’t understand cycling
@HolgerDanske874
@HolgerDanske874 Жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc You don't understand humans
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc Жыл бұрын
I guess not
@Tom-xv4ph
@Tom-xv4ph 4 ай бұрын
aged like fine wine🍷
@jakemercado7154
@jakemercado7154 7 ай бұрын
this did not age well
@andraznahtigal9007
@andraznahtigal9007 11 ай бұрын
Yes, he will
@chrislord7922
@chrislord7922 Жыл бұрын
he is not finished at the TDF, If he wants to win the TDF that has to be his focus. much like Jonas he has to start his season to peak at the TDF if he wants to beat Jonas and race smarter
@thomasdavidbassett483
@thomasdavidbassett483 10 ай бұрын
I would say with an accident free run he can and I hope will win again.
@randalh409
@randalh409 Жыл бұрын
Most definitely he will win at least one more, starting with 2024!
@Tontoquienloleation
@Tontoquienloleation Жыл бұрын
I don't think he should focus on the Tour. It's much more entertaining to watch him compete for the monuments and other races. He still could win the TDF if Jonas had a bad week or he feels specially strong. He's just too good to focus just on the TDF.
@jerrychicken967
@jerrychicken967 Жыл бұрын
He was winning in Feb last year which is pretty pointless. He does waste energy. What's worrying is that Jonus has dropped him at Tour and UAE race which is Pogs back yard. Unless Pog loses more weight then it's going to be tricky in the high mountains.
@peterderidder9922
@peterderidder9922 Жыл бұрын
Facts and nonsens guys !! What do you gonna write if pogacar wins the tour in 2024 ??
@JosesAmazingWorlds
@JosesAmazingWorlds Жыл бұрын
He need to improve his race tactics
@guitawrizt
@guitawrizt 10 ай бұрын
May the arrogant one"s suffering be Legendary.
@tns226
@tns226 11 ай бұрын
“Iron fist” is very different to what you meant “iron grip”. 3:16
@larshansen4557
@larshansen4557 11 ай бұрын
He can , ofcorce he can , if winge has just a little problems in preb he could be beaten , it all comes down to week three, winge is a monster in indurence, poggi have to imrove in week 3 , and he wil win still the two best in 3 years amazing
@chefdeparty
@chefdeparty 11 ай бұрын
Nobody really needs to win it more than once though, do they? Theres so many other races to focus on and add to his palmares and he's already banked enough loot to retire from cycling happy. He races for the joy.
@mariomanov8453
@mariomanov8453 Жыл бұрын
Haha,he beat Jonas only in winter, Paris-Nice..was so good..full ,Pogi-the G.O.A.T.!
@jascollinscork
@jascollinscork Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Interesting theory…. Only time will tell 😃 also I can stand the nickname “Pogi” 😡
@Xhadp
@Xhadp Жыл бұрын
I'd say the team structure at UAE is making it both harder and easier for him to win. Easier because his team is really strong and can claw back but harder because the teammates are capable of winning in their own right, his own teammate Adam Yates podiumed right behind him so whose to say that he can't be in contention of the GC instead? With that being said I still think Jonas takes it given his performance over the last three years, it just came down to the team to make the times stick. And, I don't want to say this, ideal conditions for all contestants like no crashing or illnesses.
@FlyingPastilla
@FlyingPastilla Жыл бұрын
2024 Visma tour lineup will be a bit weaker than usual, I believe the conditions are met for Tadej to reclaim the Tour.
@Xhadp
@Xhadp Жыл бұрын
​@@FlyingPastillaThat's why I said last three years. I've only watched some of the footage from the '21 Tour and Jonas looked strong there with him taking second on GC but had little teamwork then to make the times stick.
@michaelvrbanac6923
@michaelvrbanac6923 11 ай бұрын
If he can develop better discipline in his preparation and race strategy during the TdF, as well as having a strong team, he could win again. But those are big "ifs" in view of his history and style of racing.
@clizana
@clizana 10 ай бұрын
Talent wise UAE and Visma have awesome teams but tactic wise visma is far superior. In order to win another tdf pogi needs the whole team step up as a unit and help him to win.
@EduardoSalas
@EduardoSalas Жыл бұрын
I cannot fathom how anyone could doubt that Pogi will win more Tours de France.
@ElsonLim78
@ElsonLim78 11 ай бұрын
Vingegaard did not win TDF alone, minus WVA he wouldn’t have won TDF, TJV is lucky WVA is a team player, if UEA has as strong roster as TJV, UEA would be unbeatable.
@markmark2469
@markmark2469 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't count out Pogacar for the future. He is still a very young rider. I do think he needs to somehow maintain his power and strength but at the same time drop some weight. If Wikipedia is correct, Jonas is 14 lbs. lighter. That is a huge difference on a long steep climb!
@nathanlestrade6412
@nathanlestrade6412 4 ай бұрын
Well this did not aged well…
@chefdeparty
@chefdeparty 11 ай бұрын
I feel like for us fans, its more exciting watching Tadej go for stages or one day races than overall grand tour wins.
@bostjanrozic1372
@bostjanrozic1372 Жыл бұрын
The leadership argument seems a bit far fetched, to be honest. I don’t think any of the guys at UAE come even close to what Pogacar is capable of in a stage race. None of them are able to challenge Jonas for TDF win. Far from it. Yates and Almeida are well established riders and it would be a real shock if they were to be able to match Vingegaard all of a sudden. Ayuso is still young and anything could happen, but his 2023 Vuelta doesn’t indicate he’s got what it takes (yet). I think regarding his own team, Pog is as safe as ever in his leadership role while getting a better helpers each year. Jonas, on the other hand, will have to deal with Kuss’s ambitions. Not that he’s endangering him in any way, it’s just that he will shift his focus from being a domestique to go for other GTs. As will van Aert apparently…
@kashifite
@kashifite 4 ай бұрын
bro said that he could not win the tour again
@krist370
@krist370 Жыл бұрын
Maybe we all should ask will Jonas be ever winner of tdf? Primož Roglič left the team, Wout Van Aert will skip tdf, Sepp Kuss on winning wings,…
@Eirikkinserdal
@Eirikkinserdal Жыл бұрын
He will win the 24 edition by 5 minutes 😂
@bbuuttercupp
@bbuuttercupp 10 ай бұрын
The video is actually quite good but the title is truly unnecessarily clickbait-y. Should've stuck with what I assume was the working title we can see on the slides in the video there.
@RomeroArandaJ
@RomeroArandaJ 4 ай бұрын
Well, well, well...
@TheRealBlueSwan
@TheRealBlueSwan Жыл бұрын
I definitely think Pogi will will another TDF. Jonas is the best GT rider in the world, but Pogi is very clearly the second best. It is not guaranteed that Jonas is gonna be in sublime form every july from now on. And even if he is in great form, it is no guarantee that he takes several minutes on the few big mountain finishes. However, it IS pretty much guaranteed that Pogi will take a bit of time on Jonas on the not-so-big mountain finishes. No basically, the recipe for Pogi is to ride conservatively on the really hard mountain stages (which there are usually only a couple of) to try to hang with Jonas on GC. Crucially he should REFRAIN from trying to follow Jonas when Jonas does his patented massive 4-5k out attack on a massive mountain finish. NOBODY can follow Jonas on those climbs and if you try you CRACK hard. But Pogi only loses 3+ minutes if he CRACKS. If he goes at his own pace - probably with the rest of the favourites - instead of following Jonas, he can probably minimize his losses. Losing like 40-60 seconds to Jonas on a massive mountain finish is totally acceptable and doable and means that Pogi is still within shot of winning the tour.
@FlyingPastilla
@FlyingPastilla Жыл бұрын
Pogacar likes to sprint to much for his own good. If he stops training these efforts his threshold will improve and he can get the better of Vingegaard on all terrain.
@larshansen4557
@larshansen4557 11 ай бұрын
I think yor right , but can poggi hold him self? I agree thats the way .PS im danish so I Hope ofcorce for vinge , but should he never win again he Will stil be the champ thath stopped poggi for some years ❤
@ekm3820
@ekm3820 11 ай бұрын
Pogi won’t beat Jonas at the tour if he continues to do all those classics.
@trentvlak
@trentvlak 11 ай бұрын
Vinge might not be as versatile but he has Wout on his side. Who can win against that?
@jeffkuzzen
@jeffkuzzen 11 ай бұрын
Not sure wout rides the TDF 2024
@JanVeselý-t2e
@JanVeselý-t2e Жыл бұрын
Never tought Jonas might crash?...Who will win than?
@andyjk5974
@andyjk5974 8 ай бұрын
im suspecting he might win it this year. star this message. I'm a Vingagaard fan and jumbo visma fanatic
@andreim1270
@andreim1270 Жыл бұрын
Amazing script man! My heart really hopes he will win another but my brain tells me if something doesnt happen to Jonas or a big tactical mistake from him Pogi simply doesn't have the watts when they both are at their peak
@errickrichardson2520
@errickrichardson2520 Жыл бұрын
Pojo will win another TDF. He just has to stay patient and pt go after every stage win.
@1afterthep
@1afterthep Жыл бұрын
he will if the sponsor demands it
@candacereynolds1723
@candacereynolds1723 Жыл бұрын
Never say NEVER...SMH
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