Think what you forget is Remco is a little younger than both in years but much younger in terms of cycling experience, and yet his performance in the Tour was better than both Pogacar and Vingegaard at the same age (one of the mountain stages the 3 dished out the top 3 performances of the modern era i.e. turn of the century). People saying he can't climb sort of miss the point that he can climb better than Pogacar and JV could a year ago and ignore the fact that everyone said he would capitulate and instead he got on the podium comfortably. In the final TT the issue in my eyes was more the descent - if he learns to handle his bike better that alone will close a chunk of the gap to the top 2.

You can compare FTP and say with absolute certainty that Remco on power would demolish him. You can speculate that Eddy would be even better in terms of power with modern nutrition, science and training, but it's speculation. All we know for certain is that if we are saying who was the best of all time, Eddy isn't in that conversation as peak Eddy is at least 0.5 w/kg worse than top Tour riders.

​​​I know what you are getting at, but Eddy Merx, that's more than 40 years​ ago. Like you said better nutrition, science, bikes, personal condition trainer and so on...More Money involved nowadays. So it's not fear to compare. I agree with you that riders are better nowadays, but it's just completely different. You can only speculate, like you said. What if the young "Eddy Merx" would ride today??? Maybe he would do more w/per kg??? Do not forget, in the era of "Eddy" the contracts of (even topriders)were peanuts, compared to the contracts nowadays. So that's why price money of races were much more important. Listen Eddy Merx was simply the best rider in his era. I red some books and his competitors, knew when "Eddy" goes, there's nothing we can do about it. He rides at least 5 kilometers pro/hour faster than us. (Famous qoute) Hence, he's nickname "The Cannibal", riding everything and winning everything. Monuments, GC'S... That was a different era, orher riders also rode everything. So he became "the goat of cycling" Like Michael Jordan in the NBA. Than people start to compare any future exeptional rider with "The Goat", which is wrong in my opinion. @dpcater

​@@yvesgysel9834 Yes think we're pretty much agreed. But to be clear what I am saying is we know, factually, today's riders would destroy the Eddy Merckx that existed. We can only speculate whether Eddy would have performed at their level or above today, we don't know that he would at all. And he did all that on drugs, which he was caught taking on numerous occasions. Given the access to nutrition, sports science, training methodologies etc today is ubiquitous, setting yourself apart from the competition is even tougher than in his day, so it makes sense that someone would highlight a rider like Pogacar as The Goat, as what he is accomplishing today winning monuments/classics/grand tours, is easily as impressive as anything Eddy did back then. I can tell you one thing, Eddy Merckx isn't winning all jersey's in a TdF in today's peloton, so people highlighting something like that as a point of difference are either deluded or uneducated.

In what virtual reality were you even born??? You"re at Troll, they've apperently existed for centuries ... and always went extentict ...

@@wimve4719 wow did u made it up yourself or copied from 4chan or other forum for silly people altogether with that silly emoji. Get a life kid. Eddy is a well known Dopper

@@kubackjeee K!d???? Make sure you go asleep already, I 'm 64 ... you're more babyboomer than iI'll ever be ... do your research before blurting out BS ...

you don't know what you are talking about

​@@gogetta8886 It's the other way around champ. Eddy was a Dopper all know that

They said the same about Pelé

I agree, once in a while you have these freaks of nature that invoke all of the desillusioned ones - due to evident doping - to doubt the dedication of just about everyone who rides a pofessional peleton. I take my hat of to the last one who finishes a TdF. For you from the US, Unbound is a a thing you do on a Sunday afternoon for professional World Tour riders ... Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Eddy would get utterly destroyed by today's peloton mate.

@@wimve4719 Sorry to burst YOUR bubble dopey, but wrong again! First im NOT, never would be from USoNA, im from the greatest country / continent on the planet. Next, as to doping, Eddy was charged 3 times by the UCI, and was subsequently found not guilty, in court. So NO doping ever officially against his name. Lastly, i feel so sad for you little one, all you appear to have in your life is bitterness.

Thank God, we have the same opinion. I agree with everything you mentioned. Totally different eras. People just love to compare, while luckily some of us understand, you can not compare. Time gap between "Eddy" and "Remco" more than 40 years. Cycling evolved enormously since then. Good post.

Hahahahaha true lol

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Yes cause French fries are Belgian.

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Please ... leave out the 'Big Balls' comments? You don't speak Flemish/Dutch so you have no idea what he spoke about - which for all of you haters, was mostly refering to his Team and reco-cemcoegnising the fact that he was competing at another level. - 'Balls' ...

@@wimve4719 "sometimes you also need the balls to race. Jonas didn't have them today", spoken by Remco in English after stage 9. So, nothing to do with his team. He was having a go at Fishboy. That's where the big balls attribution came from.

@@user-fo9bv2mm1g Man, man, man ... still going on abouth the 'Balls' comment. let me tell you, first of all, it was a litetteral tanslation. So yeah, thiings got lost in translation ... Sorry fanbois ... nowadays???

@@wimve4719 You're the one with a problem about it. Wind ya neck in.