The Real Reason Why FEMC Isn’t Coming To Persona 3 Reload

[@user-zl1vf4me1p]

This is not stopping FeMC enjoyers, if ATLUS doesn't give her to them, they will find a way. Currently there is already a free open source mod that wants to put FeMC (model, pink UI, voice lines, music like Wiping all out, etc). Currently they are working on the voice lines, the UI is more or less finished, and they are planning on adding Theodore to replace Elizabeth on top of that. They got a voice actor to do the FeMC and Theodore voicelines and it sounds dope. I wish I had even a fraction of that dedication. FeMC fans are unstopable

[@therealjaystone2344]

Probably in a spin off game

[@onemegabyteplays5870]

That's nowhere near the same thing. It's a costume mod that's going to inevitably have a bunch of inconsistencies that can't be changed.

[@futabagaming]

Sure hope Theo is optional, I don't like him, personally

[@Iceblade269]

I’m thankful that they are using a voice actor rather than trying to use AI.

[@rinnymae7889]

@@onemegabyteplays5870actually look at it, this comment feels bit disrespectful to the effort they’re putting in to make a rather cohesive and beautiful mod. They’re even doing the animations and have done a wonderful job with the skills they have to stay consistent with the current in game style and giving the full femc experience.

[@John-rn1nm]

FeMc enjoyers: We just need you make Kotone but in the new engine. Atlus: I'm sorry but the technology is just not possible. FeMc enjoyers: Modders made it in a cave! With a box of scraps!

[@shaokahn9487]

Atlus: sorry we're not modders 😢

[@BulbaWhat98]

This could also be why they ported Persona 3 Portable specifically. It allows for the FEMC content to be accessible in the modern day without putting in the time or money to include her in Reload; and especially now that the Answer is coming to Reload, making P3R the definitive version of FES specifically

[@destroyerinazuma96]

P3P on Vita or modded P3P on emulator is solid. You can get some pretty decent textures and icons and even the legendary Sapho mod.

[@redhood7778]

FES in infinitely better than Portable. Saying "FEMC makes it better" doesn't mean anything.

[@funninoriginal6054]

Not sure of how accurate this is, but, from what i've seen, the reason FES wasn't ported was because Atlus lost a lot of its original files and assets, so they resorted to porting Portable.

[@nightwish1453]

which seems the case based from the leaker that the re-release is a dependant thing for femc to be accessible

[@Yagmur-nf6yh]

​@@redhood7778 Nope, Portable is the superior version compared to Fes.

[@alecmarr4006]

The fact there Making you pay like 40 bucks for a season pass to get the only thing we want (THE ANSWER) months later. Should have just been included with base game

[@seniorsterling1064]

Really? The answer is like 30 hrs for what 25$ thts a dam good price

[@JayTeeBeez]

​​@@seniorsterling1064issue more or less the answer was already a included thing in FES so it feels kinda ugh when they put a dlc wall on it especially if you have to pay for the full pass. (To me this is also made worse if there's no changes cause one of my issues with reload is the fact it didn't do too many changes to P3 outside a few things like the episodes, graphics etc.) heck id argue FemC had more changes but that's more cause FemC had new links, changes to the story (weather you liked them or not) etc.

[@jayupnext5890]

@@seniorsterling1064your point it’s reused content 💀

[@BLIZZ2012]

What do you suppose they could have done then?

[@AmphotericcMike]

Atlus's profit isn't really a true representation of how much they have/can have, their revenue which is what they use to make the games has been high since 2019, they just don't make a profit because they have to pay Sega after merging, otherwise it's employees and managers are all getting paid with the revenue

[@sirdarkon4517]

Some people forgot that Atlus are not AAA studio and for many years they have been losing money. They not like Activision or Ubisoft.

[@troev]

how are they losing money by making such a good games?

[@S-treme]

@@troev atlus was in the risk of die in the 2000 , it was only when persona 3 release they get off the risk

[@Reddeth6332]

Ok? If they have been losing money than it sounds like they are doing a horrible job budgeting.

[@akiraangelfire2127]

@@troevp3 is a lazy game and half empty not worth the price. So good no greed yes get it right.

[@S-treme]

@@Reddeth6332 you are forgeting the fact in 2000 japanese studios are not making millions or joined another studio are marked to die in any moment in 2000 2010

[@peckneck2439]

The mod FeMC community are creating is crazy good. They are literally not leaving a stone unturned. Music, graphics, UI they're working on everything. Obviously there are limitations as i doubt hey'll be able to recreate FeMC's naginata and social links at least for now but even as it is right now you can pretty much enjoy FeMC Reload but with MUCH more Yuri content which is just fine by me... Hell that's even better than FeMC's original Social links.

[@reneeelizabeth9473]

They've added the naginata, but it still uses Makoto's sword animations.

[@Khalood94]

i think persona 6 should give us a female lead, and just give us an option to play as male thus breaking tradition and maybe what's happening with P3 FEMC wouldn't happen again.. just maybe

[@anthonyrousseau8050]

Persona is one of the rare RPGs to star 2nd person protagonists. FeMC isn't a gender option in the traditional sense but rather an entirely different character that just so happens to take the male protagonist's role. That means rewriting the near-entirety of the script to account for the gender difference and the social impact (like sexism; the latter being such a crucial part of P5's story is why Royal gave up on making a female protagonist and repurposed it into Kasumi). In order for Persona 6 to have a selectable gender option, the story would need to be written with that in mind. But this would also mean shifting to a 1st person protagonist and I'm not sure they want to jump that shark (wish they'd do, tho).

[@theanimeplaya4141]

Think you should have an option to play as male or female mc

[@IceQueen975]

The whole thing is ironic because the progenitor of the series - SMT: If... - canotically has a female protagonist. You can pick to be either male or female but Atlus DID confirm years later the "canon" choice is female. So the series LITERALLY at inception had a female lead. Yet the only canon female MC we have is Maya from P2.

[@ferchii13]

I think just give us option to date the boys

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

@@IceQueen975 That's because the series was still in it's infancy and a lot changed afterwards. Now Soul Hackers took the mantle of having a female protag centric story

[@xenomaster1773]

I am still hoping for femc she is one of my favorite persona characters probably 2nd only to the p5 character Joker

[@Gabe_29]

Kotone is coming in 3 or 4 years in P3 Re-reload

[@keiviroque5666]

God, this comment section is reminding me why I hate the Persona community so much.

[@madhippy3]

They trained your mother.

[@digitalunderdog-wp6gp]

Genuinely curious: Why do you say that?

[@elFulberto]

I suppose it's one thing to add a short separate campaign as DLC and another to remake the whole main storyline to include new characters, S.Links, cutscenes and animations. Expecting them to do the whole FeMC thing was naive in retrospect. Still hurts though.

[@Sputnik_Man]

"The real reason no femc in P3R becsuse they're working on a Persona 4 remake with femc as the new content" -Hopium 2024

[@fierce_laurentum21]

If they made a FemC for P4, that would be a marvelous compromise. As a girl, I’d love that!

[@thatoneyokai5109]

But it also makes sense. Even if people really want FemC. They need to realize it's basically a completely different game. (mainly in dialouge and social links). So along side having a set deadline for P3R. It basically would have taken them (probably) like 75% extra development time to change dialouge, add new social links, and new dialouge and modle for the different velvet room attendent

[@TheCaliMack]

I swear on that bloody door in the sky, I'm gonna tread through hell and high water for femc preservation and awareness.

[@jeveritt8398]

Portable is on everything now it's the best outcome if we aren't getting her in reload

[@jonathancapps1103]

There's a fan project to patch FemC into the game. It actually looks pretty good, but it would only be deployable on PC. Maybe Atlus will take a cue from Falcom and use the fan translation as the basis for an official patch.

[@isotetra1912]

at one point they said that The Answer wouldnt be in the game, and look where we are now. its only a matter of time before they end up adding FeMC anyways

[@dhb1148]

where did they say that?

[@raikerthedestroyer4092]

They said it would be persona 3 but considering the answer as the aeon social link was put in I think from the start to tease us

[@nerodoesart5886]

The producer or the director in a interview that they said that they wanted to, but they don't have enough resources to add it into the game and that it would require them to do a lot for that one. They also have the some of the code in the game for the FEMC already, but it wasn't finished it.

[@DeathByAnvil]

And can you show me where the answer is in the game?

[@funninoriginal6054]

From what i recall they had the Answer in some sort of a limbo state where they would only release it as DLC if P3R peformed well, which it did. FeMC on the other hand would take _waaaaaay_ more efford to implement so they threw out the idea.

[@1upperful]

Say what you want, but I personally can't shake the feeling off that they kept FemC for a later updated release of P3R for the new Switch coming out 2025. Mark my words!

[@DarkSeraph]

They confirmed P3R is the definitive edition of P3 so there won't be another updated re-release like Royal.

[@dhb1148]

where tho?

[@connorharnage6697]

And they succeeded. As far as I'm concerned, Reload is the best way to experience P3

[@fivefive9514]

@@connorharnage6697 they succeeded in appeasing sexist pigs and misogynists that dont want FeMC option. and Reload is not the best way to experience P3. not everyone wants to play as a male protagonist, you selfish jerk.

[@Yagmur-nf6yh]

Sadly that just means Portable will always be the most definitive version of P3. Oh well.

[@connorharnage6697]

@@Yagmur-nf6yh Doubtful. It's missing too much

[@drackestalentorgen166]

And their business practices actually sho away lots of gamers... and for so long they ignored what gamers wanted for a long time....

[@mayamellissa]

They just need to make a femC full length version of Reload called Persona 3 Reload Pink.

[@Rafa-Silva-Alt]

Funny thing is, Kotone was never canon to begin with, it was much more like a parallel alternative kind-of universe. Her addition to the P3P was great because, otherwise, the game would be a cut-down version, a bad port for some. Since FES was the canon all along, obviously it was the base they should've used for a remake. Also, as the video points out, money, time and also Sega DLC policies certainly didn't helped. Also there's a lot of Atlus games coming from a small team and even P6 might be around the corner. Is that an excuse for not having the option to have FeMC? Absolutely not. I would LOVE seeing her, but the game and DLC must sell really well if we want to consider this a possibility.

[@anthonyrousseau8050]

A lot of this reminds me of NieR: Replicant and Gestalt. The latter was created at Square USA's insistence (they thought the father would be a more appealing protagonist), but Yoko Taro's always made it clear Replicant was the only canon one. When the remake happened, it was based exclusively on Replicant (helped by Taro having much more sway this time, thanks to NieR: Automata's runaway success). Much as people love FeMC, she's always been the second fiddle amongst Persona protagonists. And unless Atlus gets bigger budgets (unlikely under Sega) or rethinks how they write the protagonists (even less likely), that's not changing anytime soon. In the meantime however, I'm glad to see fans and modders pick up the torch and recreate her themselves.

[@Rafa-Silva-Alt]

@@anthonyrousseau8050 Great comparison and analysis. We shouldn't be sad, FeMC is already happening anyway thanks to modders and it will be great!

[@kyaksachan502]

@@anthonyrousseau8050 I miss DadNier it's like the Ace Attorney localization weirdness. Even though more times than not people support the Sub over dub localization, AA kinda has a following that goes both ways, and I really love the weird japanification of Ace Attorney (PW-AJ eras) to the point where the OG source doesn't appeal despite it making so much more sense within the context of fictional lawyers. I love OG Hanako but she's always been a spin-off possibility and at the very least they ported the OG p3p game for people who don't emulate.

[@anthonyrousseau8050]

​@@kyaksachan502 For what it's worth, I've always preferred father NieR.

[@queenrose2009]

Actually atlus confirmed that she's indeed canon, just from a alternate timeline. In other words they are two separate canons of P3.

[@mythicalskeleton1546]

It's sad to realize that atlus only has persona as a successful series. smt is somewhat of a hidden gem until 3 remaster and 5 came out

[@JennyTheNerdBat]

SMT was consistently successful in Japan (and arguably in the West since original 3), and they also have Etrian Odyssey.

[@L1v1ngDeAdGirl]

Reasonable as the reason may be, I still refuse to accept a full categorical rejection of FeMC being added. Most of the framework is already there with the 3d environments not changing for FeMC's side at all. The only real problem would be voice overing the slightly altered lines of characters saying she instead of he and whatnot. And of course the fully voiced social links but even still most of the shared social links don't really specify a gender with the voiced parts. Atlus/Sega knew that The Answer would guarantee tons of sales even at literally half the price of the game whereas there are tons of people who would just refuse to pay money for "basically the same game but as a girl".

[@NotEnoughMs]

The worst part is that I am one of those people.

[@L1v1ngDeAdGirl]

@@NotEnoughMs So you wouldn't buy a dlc with FeMC or am I misunderstanding this?

[@NotEnoughMs]

@@L1v1ngDeAdGirl Oh no... I misread your original comment... I would definitely pay for a the FeMC, but I think it should have been in the base game. I think is people like me the real reason why they left the FeMC out of the game.

[@L1v1ngDeAdGirl]

@@NotEnoughMs I agree, FeMC should've absolutely been in the base game, same with The Answer.

[@rezahydra]

@@L1v1ngDeAdGirl While it sucks, The Answer being DLC makes sense… I mean, FeS already was made as a DLC to the original version in a way, hence The Answer being playable in it from the start. FeMC however… it genuinely feels like they shoved Portable into the market just to appease FeMC wanters, without putting in the effort to actually fix the major problem of Portable… that being the fact it’s a visual novel without any of the anime cutscenes. It should be here, if it was here from base even better, and there is code to suggest they did try though cut it short… Alas, I’m now waiting for the full source code extraction to complete for Portable. For the reworking of the anime cutscenes project which should be done soon to finish. For the full 3D map to be added as well via mods, along with custom cutscenes… If Atlus can’t give us what we want, modders will eventually. Wouldn’t be the first time. For reference… I would easily pay $45 USD for Kotone to return as DLC. A steep price considering, but a deserved one considering the vast amounts of voicework needed well after launch. Though considering how terrible the conditions are at Sega at the moment, along with the restrictions being placed on them like with the DLC being forced to be like LAD/Yakuza Lost Judgement… this was never gonna be an option… I hope Atlus is paid more soon…

[@Warmaker01]

It's fine. I'm not dropping $70+ for a version of P3 that's not truly "Definitive"

[@wpown7564]

You can get the FEMC mod for free and use a DLC unlocker to get all the DLC for free, so I'd say its probably still worth it. Up to you though

[@connorharnage6697]

Except it is definitive. You'll never find a better way to experience the game

[@deathlesswitch9063]

​@@connorharnage6697research what the the word definitive is

[@connorharnage6697]

@@deathlesswitch9063 Definitive is the best way to experience Persona 3 and that's Reload

[@deathlesswitch9063]

@@connorharnage6697 from Google: Something definitive is complete and final. A definitive example is the perfect example. Something that includes all parts of the whole product/picture. You could have googled but instead you decided to spew misinformation

[@quietrioter]

So FeMC will be the protag of Persona 6?

[@Jylstin]

This is a really cool insight on why they are doing this type of strategy, I didn’t know Atlus were loosing so much money given that since Persona 5 came out in 2017 but they only gain profit during 2022. Part of the Reason is also Sega for trying to milk and charge for unnecessary features

[@Vzduch2]

The worst thing about the battle pass is that the answer was supposed to be included in the premium version of the game. That was the only reason me and many others decided to buy it for such a price. But as of now, the premium version is a fucking scam with nothing extra to offer.

[@akdyearling]

shes's rom a alternate timeline, it may not seem it but yuki and kotone are hella diffferent. Foir example there is a character you get earlier in her route compared to yuki's. She has differnt weapons

[@heroicgangster9981]

She's not coming to Persona 3 Reload, she's coming to Persona 3 Redownload Spend your $70 again if you want FeMC

[@nerodoesart5886]

Well, the people behind Persona 3 Reload said that they weren't going to do that again for this game hopefully, so meaning that we may just get updates or DLCs like what we're seeing in Reload.

[@heroicgangster9981]

@@nerodoesart5886 Sounds plausible, but I don't see why atlus devs would say they are gonna re-release the same game with bonus content at the point when they are trying to sell the base version of the game. And we don't even have a velvet room super boss that involves the entire SEES team. Something that Portable provided.

[@rexthewolf3149]

@@heroicgangster9981yeah because reload wasn’t based off of portable.

[@heroicgangster9981]

@@rexthewolf3149 I predict the Persona 3 Re-Release will expand on the co-op attacks from Portable and give the SEES members team up attacks instead. Since Reload lacks team up attacks for a modern Persona game.

[@underground868]

Atlus parent companies mismanagement of money and claiming that they haven't made a profit off of their 3 main franchises after nearly 2 decades is nonsense. Video game Publishers like EA and Activision have been pushing the narrative that if they're not making millions every year they're not worth their time and are considered failures. The fact that all of their games come out finished, polished, and damn good means that they clearly have the time and resources to make them. The season pass is half the price of the game, which is 70 bucks, and has only 1 expansion, some costumes and music from games that they already made. They're lying and putting their greed out on full display.

[@AL-np1im]

This is literally the biggest scam they sell you a game with $70 with persona 5 graphics with a $40 DLC

[@serenepastel]

The logic side of my brain can understand the exclusion. Money makes the world go around and all of that. The emotion side is still angry and annoyed because I genuinely think the MaleC makes for a worse narrative given his characterization.

[@johnclopez96]

I mean at least there’s a mod for it so I hope that ease the femc fanbase like don’t get me wrong I would love to play as kotone but I could understand if they can’t but hey at least I can play Aigis in the answer so is gonna be worth it to me

[@raphaelkgh218]

Yeah!!! And the mod is good!! I hope they continue supporting it until it's done❤

[@chaddyyyy]

This video did not age well 4:41

[@Zettai_gema]

Yeah...

[@FatKratos69]

I don't understand, can you explain plz?

[@_fawkes]

@@FatKratos69 Midori disappeared from twitter

[@SilentVinyl]

They will release fez, golden and royale style version of the reload 3 to 4 years from now

[@theanimeplaya4141]

They need to start working on p6 ,1 ,2 and 4

[@connorharnage6697]

They already said they won't do that

[@connorharnage6697]

@@theanimeplaya4141They're already working on P6 at least

[@SilentVinyl]

@@connorharnage6697 this is Atlus we are talking about, they love making better versions of their previous games

[@connorharnage6697]

@@SilentVinyl Except they confirmed they won't. And unlike The Answer there's no over-the-top fan outcry for a rerelease to make them change their minds

[@nemesis3063]

femc really would've put this game on a major delay and cost more money, they wouldve had to essentially make the whole social aspects of the game again

[@cavsfightingroom3692]

Not buying this game till female mc is added and lets not fool ourselfs even though they deny it, there 1000% will be a royal edition in a year and she will be in it

[@Mentalmetalia]

God femc fans are so annoying

[@cavsfightingroom3692]

@@Mentalmetalia cry about it

[@connorharnage6697]

@@cavsfightingroom3692 Ok deny reality all you want. It ain't happening

[@davidebuiese8035]

Many define Reload as the non-definitive version of P3.. also because the monotonous Tartarus is one of the weak points.. and Atlus does not intend to go beyond the dlc They could put the Phantom Sees in P5 Phantom X as an event Each will have the firearm or melee weapon (Yukari and Aegis) tied to the costume, Koromaru a rocket launcher on his back, two will have psycho and nuclear and Kotone will be Violett (last remaining costume) his Orpheus will have another name..

[@CasualLeague]

Atlus didnt need to lie like they did in the announcement video, that DLC footage was way to worked on to be "just starting production". And since P2 theres More than 1 version of the games. At least Is DLC and not another game. Yes quite shitty that there Is no FEMC but Is way to much work i guess, basically 75% new/another game... Unlesd that becomes the perfect pretext to a separate revision that comes even on next gen and full priced in the future ☠️

[@meikisaragi1445]

Can't believe people still lying to themselves that femc isn't canon in the comments. Smh. Unfortunately for you guys, Atlus confirmed her as canon and I refuse to believe otherwise, until atlus themselves say she's not. Just to be clear here, I don't care and it doesn't affect me if they put her on reload or not. I'm not particularly fond of playing as a girl in a dating sim. It just annoys me that people are lying to themselves about this.

[@knowledgeseeker4614]

I think that spin-off game Q2 more or less confirmed she’s canon in an alternate continuity. That’s fine with me.

[@dhb1148]

yeah, atlus still didn't retcon her like they did persona trinity soul

[@seniorsterling1064]

Bro the proof you need that she isn't canon is the fact atlas themselves don't give A F to put her anywhere besides the a series. Thts like how Capcom treats dmc2

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

@@dhb1148 Trinity Soul was actually due to copyright reasons (for some reason Sega doesn't actually has the copyright for that show). That's different to what they are doing with P3R

[@ryukopoolpeacemaker228hd9]

It's simple they just the delusional persona fans just don't wanna accept the truth

[@mjustice34]

Are people so ignorant they don't realize the development process it would take to implement FEMC into reload, this isn't a copy and paste process people. Are you not considering social arcana reconstruction for all social arcanas well manly the obes involving male arcanas. Which is why she was introduced "sooo" long ago in her own remake title people. Atlus would have to do the same thing here with FEMC, completely restructuring the entire game, and possibly even adding Theodore for the velvet room scenes as well, even additional voice acting. This cost "money" people!!!. So just be satisfied we're at least getting "The Answer". So stop all the childish tantrums all because you can't have you cake and eat it too. Be thankful we got this masterpiece of Persona 3 Reload in the first place!!

[@lavenderrose82]

I mean modders can mod her into the game. I mean understand wanting to do the male mc's story first since he is the main timeline as well as the answer. But that doesn't mean they couldn't do a femc route for reload later down the line and add that into a REreloaded version of the game. Make it the best version pf P3 like P4G and P5V/R. I mean if modders can do it, I'm sure atlas could if they wanted/tried.

[@mjustice34]

@@lavenderrose82 yes I've noticed the modders doing it however it's not quite the same as her experience should be. But it will take some work to give FEMC her derserved experience. I think in time we might perhaps get it, but it will be some revamped version of the game down the road, like P4G or P5R.

[@lavenderrose82]

@mjustice34 we can only hope for that. Atlus did say they planned to have femc alongside the main game but didn't have the budget, so hopefully that means we could get her later down the line. I mean they've already said the answer or femc would be in reload but we're getting the answer in dlc so technically it's part of reload. So who can say they won't do the same with femc later.

[@nerodoesart5886]

@@lavenderrose82 They never said that the FEMC and the Answer was going to be in the game. They only said Quality of life features, not the content. I think they only chose the Answer since it finishes P3 and also that maybe how much money that they have for the game since they didn't have enough budget and resources to add FEMC. I definitely know that they tried to add her into the game since there were some or a lot of code on Twitter that was for her, but didn't get finished.

[@lavenderrose82]

@nerodoesart5886 Regardless, they could still do the femc route sometime later and add it into a later installment of reload. Like what they did with Golden and Royal. I'm not saying it's gonna happen for certain but it's certainly a possibility.

[@JoelDombek]

You vid talks about losses in the hundreds of millions..but figures shown are below $10 million 😅

[@almondmartini3174]

It’s converting yen (audio) to usd in the video

[@Augestein]

The reason it's not coming is because they wanted to make FeMC players more powerful.

[@jolteon345]

The thing with FeMC is that Atlus helped with the bleeding a bit with the linked episodes. However, at the same time, having linked episodes for the male SEES members just isn’t as good as social links. FeMC brought necessary world building to P3, as something is just missing when you get limited insight to other characters that you’re supposed to care about. It was hard to actually care about Junpei, Aki, Ken, and Koromaru with the limited insight that you got about them. I’m not against FeMC, I would have strongly preferred the extra world building. I am against how both sides are treating the situation, as both the hostility towards FeMC/her fans and the overreaction about her exclusion are unnecessary.

[@hasshenjo6416]

I mean yeah but link episodes exist don't they?

[@Now_Roxas]

It costs money to pay The voice actors The Programmers The Writers The Artists The Fee to put it up probably And also They'd lose money on the P3P remaster.

[@air2data]

Tbh I don’t really care about the female protagonist not being added. It’s not really needed. Game will still sell without. I think P3R was developed with the original P3 in mind.

[@nerodoesart5886]

Pretty much it was. The devs did say that the only thing they wanted to focus on was the base P3, because they say there was a lot they could do with it now to make it better. They were going to add the FEMC, but they said something about not having the budget and resources to do it, so they left it out. They have some of the codes for the FEMC, but it wasn't finished in development.

[@samz9121]

FEMC GANG

[@cidneyforney8278]

YEAH!

[@Gamecliparchives]

FeMC not being in Reload is really not that big of a deal

[@theanimeplaya4141]

Uhhh why would they remake the same game all over again just for a few minor changes and playing as a female no way they’d do that plus they’d have to redo the voice lines and every I put down 10k their not gonna be doing that anytime soon they need to focus on persona 4 1 and 2

[@nerodoesart5886]

There is a rumor that they already thinking about starting P4 then the P1 and P2 is just remasters and that's it.

[@theanimeplaya4141]

@@nerodoesart5886 yea I heard that too

[@alexanderluna4598]

The reason is because shes uh glee and completely pointless in every aspect of the narrative.

[@AzizaNyx]

As long as Persona 6 has a female protagonist, I will forgive them.

[@matheusmazza4398]

If it doesnt change any social links there's no point better stick to the main story character that is male on most cases except for p2 ep

[@deathlesswitch9063]

​@@matheusmazza4398can't wait to play as a dude for the 6th time

[@matheusmazza4398]

@@deathlesswitch9063 like i said if it doesnt change the social links there's no point

[@reneeelizabeth9473]

@@matheusmazza4398 P6 should be female only.

[@matheusmazza4398]

@@reneeelizabeth9473 it wont be lmao

[@busk-e963]

In my opinion, FEMC isn’t needed, it’s better for the community to create their own FEMC for free rather than ATLUS make us pay like 40$ for the same thing. The Answer is much more needed as it is essentially a sequel to P3.

[@deathlesswitch9063]

In my opinion, make both. Why sacrifice one over the other

[@busk-e963]

@@deathlesswitch9063 True, but with reload’s budget, they might as well make another whole game, also I think it’s better for the communtiy to make a FREE mod instead of Atlus charging like 50.00 for FEMC.

[@ryukopoolpeacemaker228hd9]

​@@deathlesswitch9063you got a point

[@lemonlime8949]

@@deathlesswitch9063did you watch the video? It’s called time and money

[@v2099]

I get the femc arguments and all, but I agree with the decision. It's a pity some of the content will be lost, but all the major points were written with a male mc, as such alot of plot points just feels weird with a female mc

[@akiraangelfire2127]

Game pass is exactly why this is happening if it wasn’t on gamepass it would be a more of a full game and this wouldn’t be happening lol blame Xbox and gamepass for forcing the real fans to have to pay extra for Xbox freebie because they don’t buy anything.

[@prettyfish6747]

I dont even mind if they dont add femc again i just want them to make the guys datable too! 😂

[@Miumiu0404]

Are you Pinoy? 🇵🇭

[@jonmcknight18]

Another thing that might of made atlus choose not to put femc is because of her justice arcana (if you know you know) and while yes you don't have to date everyone in this version of the game it would still be a bit creepy.

[@Galaxykuma]

It is creepy, just like the one in P4 and P5.

[@hydrusalphy4654]

​@@GalaxykumaThe Justice Arcana in P5? What's wrong with Akechi?

[@Galaxykuma]

@@hydrusalphy4654 nothing, outside of him needing therapy, it's more so the age gap "romance" that's the issue. It's in P3,P4 and P5

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

No I don't think that would be a factor in deciding if femMC gets to exist. As much as there is a section of the internet likes to talk about that, I don't believe Atlus would be using such impractical reasons.

[@lemonlime8949]

@@Galaxykumagood god people dying in the world but nooo creepy teacher

[@wandering_monke]

The reason atlus goes bankrupt is because their fanbase's most popular form of playing this game is through KZbin

[@hymnos4736]

She isn't canon to begin with so I don't care

[@lyao4320]

No, she is canon

[@Hello_There57]

​@@lyao4320 no she isn't The only reason she exists was to make people buy portable

[@fatethefox]

who cares about what is canon anyway...

[@sadisticservant]

her story is considered as some sort of multiverse, so technically she is canon. She has also made an appearance in a spin off

[@meikisaragi1445]

Well, unfortunately for you. She is confirmed canon by Atlus. She's in Persona Q2. And met with the P4 and P5 gang. Even had a conversation with Makoto Yuki. I think another reason why they won't put her on reload is because they said they had a hard time porting p4g and p3p, p3p in particular. So maybe they want P3p to be still relevant by locking her there.

[@godssalvation87]

She wasnt in persona 3 mainline game only on portable an adding her would break the canon. Answer that easy!!

[@FilthyTea]

She’s really not that cool imma be real

[@ryukopoolpeacemaker228hd9]

Neither is makoto

[@hasshenjo6416]

​@@ryukopoolpeacemaker228hd9well of course they aren't that's why Joker exists

[@wkim22]

P3 FeMC is irrelevant. Atlus should remake P2 EP. We need a real female protagonist, Maya Amano and not some gender swapped character. Though I only play JRPG if there's a female character and picked FeMC in P3P.

[@fasimba1]

Nah, the real reason is Ken social link, that's all

[@Kageryushin]

The absolutely insipid attachment to P3P's FeMC for her own sake is one of those things people whine and wail about just because they want it in theory for the novelty rather than because it would actually be good. Her content wasn't even that great or efforted in the first place, just some stuff they threw together in the PSP port's altogether downscaled structure, and will never contribute to the overall canon of the series except as a footnote in things like PQ2 anyway. It's all so tiresome. I'm fine with Atlus having their priorities straight in this regard. The biggest flaw with P3R is that it hasn't been rebalanced at all to account for things like Shift, which has consequently made the game far too easy.

[@deathlesswitch9063]

You talk like you are at gun point being forced to play her. If she releases, you can just not play her if you don't like her so much. You are the one whining

[@seniorsterling1064]

​@@deathlesswitch9063 his point is WHY ppl care about a mid character with mid-gross social links, and honestly I agree femc literally brought nothing new to the table besides dating DOWN in the series. (age wise)

[@deathlesswitch9063]

@@seniorsterling1064 hypocrites... Each and every one of you

[@lemonlime8949]

@@deathlesswitch9063no, we talk like we are annoyed at the community for whining because some fake anime waifu of theirs isn’t in the game. She is not everything she is talked up to be.

[@deathlesswitch9063]

@@lemonlime8949 mfs when people want to play as girl trying not to be misogynistic challenge (impossible)

[@vietnguyen2293]

she’s not necessary to enjoy p3. the people who slander this game without giving it a try over a simple route change are ignorant

[@raikerthedestroyer4092]

To people who are mad about the feMC do you really want to wait another 6 years for them to give us the same game, with a newish character with male social links(hope to Christ not ken) new UI and the other additions to reload and have her somehow get the answer. Cause I don’t I’m happy with reload being the way it is the feMC is and always shall be the PSP exclusive experience, because of the hardware limitations and that port while Meh is another way to play it leave her be she can’t come to reload because it will take more time to overhaul the social system again, and all the link episodes were enough for reload atlus while a big company isn’t AAA y’all understand it does lose money, unlike actual AAA companies like Ubisoft who can afford to make something like skull and bones and call it a garbage AAAA game with nothing to do or activison which (applies to both) doesn’t care about the fans anymore and puts out something like $70 DLC with very little new added. Meanwhile atlus is talking it’s time to carefully craft what the fans really wanted the ultimate persona 3 FES experience we need to just be grateful that this even exists at all.

[@melvinbrotherofthejoker436]

We need the Ken romance

[@CBman11037]

Who the hell cares about canon? Just let me play as the shotacon agaian

[@luisramontaverashernandez8828]

Persona 3 reload with the answer is the definitive version of persona 3, the feminine protagonist was just not canon fanservice

[@gamerhero9559]

Well she isn't canon so...

[@rainyday9174]

Is anything canon. Like seriously. P3FES you could say was cannon. Now that reload exists with it's differences you could say it's not. Then there's p5 royal and scramble which are considered separate from each other timeline wise. Or P4ARENA which has none of the P4 casts evolved persona (even teddies who's always happens in the story) meaning the social links aren't "canon" or does that mean arena isn't. Then you have reload setting Junpei and Aki up in there link episodes to become there arena selfs. Then there's Theodore originally introduced in P3P appearing in multiple games, Rio also from P3P gets alluded to in one of Kenjis Koromaru walks in Reload

[@NelCelestine]

@@rainyday9174 additionally, Elizabeth will sometimes idly mention about her Brother and introducing you someday if you stay on her window long enough.

[@rainyday9174]

@@NelCelestine I saw that when my sister was playing through the game. I hope we get him in a non spin off title again someday in the future.

[@cadenza6686]

@@rainyday9174 I will come off as a nerd but in P4AU or P4A their personas devolved due to no use overtime

[@rainyday9174]

@@cadenza6686 Really? Was that something mentioned in game or are you just theorising? If you're right that's kinda sad since they were all symbolic of the change within there users heart's. Of the struggles they overcame and the people they become. Though why did this not happen to the P3 cast? Like I know Mitsuru, Aki, Aigis and Fuuka are still mainly active when it comes to shadow activities, Koros never evolved (or happened prior to meeting the party theorised by the characters in reload, which contradicts Q where he said he wouldn't want his persona to Evolve to Elizabeth), Junpeis is technically a fusion. But Yukari and Ken I can't imagine they've been too active with shadow related activities, shouldn't there's have weakened as well?

[@robertgray3710]

Grooming that’s why

[@rezahydra]

Ah yes, this especially makes sense when Reload still has multiple instances of grooming like Hermit Rank 8 and the main focus on the Magician Link, or even the joke romance with Maiko that the game forces on you still even. Or how for most the links, MC is an enabler who actively encourages the absolute worst behavior in others, even gassing up someone actively trying to groom someone. Perhaps you should actually play the games and realize the writing before blaming a single option in one single Social Link that you can refuse while still maxing out the link.

[@CBman11037]

​@@rezahydraAsking a modern western persona fan to play the game is their biggest weakness

[@rezahydra]

@@CBman11037 Ah fair point, they still haven’t played P5 even despite it being on everything.

[@busk-e963]

@rezahydra 1:Thanks for being really chill, 2:Maiko isn’t getting groomed,it is very common for young children to want to marry someone who had done something to help them through a tough time, 3: Your a W man’s.