The REAL Top Gun Battle, Gulf of Sidra 1981 - Animated

[@bigbadword]

That U.S. pilot exhibited extraordinary professionalism by not shooting down the sun.

[@Pozi_Drive]

Yes, but now the earth is heating up (according to climate hoaxers)

[@huskergator9479]

The F14 was indeed able to shoot down the sun, so yeah, if he had pickled that missile, we’d all be feeling that chill.

[@decentish8546]

Yeah shooting down the sun could’ve caused a serious international incident.

[@abandonedaccount123]

If he _did_ shoot down the sun, that would be detrimental to the trout population.

[@jesuslovesyou-matts]

@@decentish8546 *interstellar

[@expandedhistory]

As a History teacher, you don’t understand how amazing your videos are Operations Room and how much they come in handy. Although I teach US History, it’s fun to show them your videos when it’s related to a certain conflict that we’re learning. Watching my students faces just glued onto the screens with fascination while still learning something interesting and educational is just something that I will always appreciate. Please keep up the quality work as always.

[@sethkoch3745]

How do you have time to be both a History teacher and a History content creator!? Keep the work up, your channel has a lot of potential to grow.

[@agentbarron3945]

While they only have one video on "american" history (ohama beach) check out Baz Battles, he focuses on ancient history and his videos are incredibly well done.

[@expandedhistory]

@@sethkoch3745 Great question! It’s definitely not easy doing both but when you have a passion for teaching and have a passion for making quality History videos for people interested, then it becomes something actually enjoyable. Great question though!

[@agentbarron3945]

@@sethkoch3745 id just assume that those fields highly overlap lol. He can make youtube videos, post them, and then show them to his class every year even lessening his workload

[@女性器ファゴット]

@@expandedhistory where do you teach at

[@GorgonAlice]

That little pixelated cockpit was hilarious. Loved that.

[@Atlas531]

No detail is too small. These animations are incredible.

[@dickfitzwelliner2807]

I missed it, what time was it at?

[@4d_chesser]

@@dickfitzwelliner2807 4:30

[@hawkeye5955]

You can never be too careful. Someone could digitally enhance the image and see the backseat pilot flipping the bird. 😋

[@MrGilRoland]

You never know if the algorithm is watching the pilots gestures.

[@woodrax]

Love that, when the narrator mentions the F-14s going supersonic, he accurately sweeps the wings, along with the animated F-14s speeding up.

[@dec5829]

And they animated the arresting cable on recovery!

[@mk6315]

Attack speed on a tomcat is no joke

[@loungelizard3922]

The SU-22 wings extended when it was maneuvering as well, nice attention to detail.

[@TheScientificBackpac]

I saw that too, phenomenal attention to detail all over the place!

[@hunormagyar1843]

Yea these plane animations are fire

[@tayzonday]

I feel so British-descended when you narrate American history.

[@ChrisC7498_]

Fancy seeing you here Mr. chocolate rain guy

[@EileenDanganronpa]

hi

[@andie_pants]

I love seeing you every now and then in comment sections. :-D

[@kometblitz]

Huh didn't expect to see you here

[@logang1585]

The fact that Tay Zonday is watching these is simply a reaffirmation of my interests.

[@POBPOBPOB]

Brilliant as always, and I can't help but notice the animations are looking even more detailed than before? Superb content and thank you sir for all of your hard work; it is appreciated!

[@Zamandu]

That's because he hired an animator, this is old news

[@POBPOBPOB]

@@Zamandu fair enough, guess I missed the announcement about that. Can't say I noticed until now so clearly I needed more coffee :)

[@paul_k_7351]

Sadly they are also more blurred than before for everything except the extreme closeups.

[@courtlandstavley6178]

I can only pray he said “I can’t lock, switching to guns” lol This is great, thank you guys for a great video

[@redguard2529]

“I don’t got a tone!”

[@281cu6]

You can see the video and audio from the engagement: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2PIhJ5sqraKiZI

[@courtlandstavley6178]

@@281cu6 awesome thank you

[@geezlers]

@@281cu6 This is the Second Gulf of Sidra incident in 1989 as the title says, not this one from 1981.

[@281cu6]

@@geezlers I didn't know there were two. Thanks man!

[@oldgoat142]

Commander Hank Kleemann was my CO when he took over VF-101, the east coast F-14 training squadron. I arrived at NAS Oceana in mid-summer of '83. Let me tell you from first-hand experience, Commander Kleemann was no nonsense, no bullshit. He didn't accept excuses other than you were fresh to the training command and by fresh I mean, you were just off the bus. He expected us to perform and we did, turning out top notch people. When I heard of his death from an accident while landing an F-18A, I was genuinely upset. Little did I know he would be the first of many officers and shipmates who would die in the line of duty while I was in. Commander Kleemann was a damn good man and I am proud to have been part of his squadron.

[@haqiq]

Shouldn't have signed up to a regime that engaged in illegal war everywhere in the world. Sunflower seed always need fertiliser

[@madisonjones4993]

Kleemann was actually my step-father’s dad, making him my step-grandpa. It’s amazing to see what he accomplished during his lifetime.

[@oldgoat142]

@@madisonjones4993 Wow, thank you for sharing that. He was a great leader, and a very good man. I wasn't around him every day, but under his leadership he turned out very good, very smart people.

[@michaelcady9936]

He was co of vf-41 the black aces when i was a nimitzman

[@oldgoat142]

@@michaelcady9936 Right. He took over VF-101 before I arrived there. I'm curious to know if you know the date when he left VF-41.

[@blindleader42]

4:32 I'm so relieved you pixelated the American pilot's rude gesture.

[@dymazgames2159]

Not a pilot, but a RIO

[@williamlydon2554]

Between air operations over Libya, and the surface actions in the Persian Gulf, the Navy had a lot of on the job experience during the 1980s.

[@bernardoohigginsvevo2974]

It went to good use in 1991

[@EstorilEm]

Solid backbone after their performance in the pacific during WWII.

[@nathandeal9703]

Not mention all the carrier based missions over Korea and South East Asia.

[@cjclark2002]

Enforcing the emperors almighty righteous will... oh wayahminnit this ain’t 40k. Carry on puny proto humans.

[@kskeel1124]

And 90s, 2000s, 2010s etc.

[@bryangrote8781]

Some scenes in “Top Gun” were (very) loosely based on this incident. The movie was so popular and gave the F-14 and carrier aviation so much notoriety and fame the USN decided to re-enact the incident on location in ‘86 and ‘89 ;)

[@schmechel6888]

Mic drop 😂😂😂

[@JeepWranglerIslander]

A lot of the things that people might ascribe to "Hollywood bullshit" in Top Gun are actually real. The radar picking up only one contact when there are two jets is real and is a function of a radar's resolution cell. The flameout and flatspin that Mav and Goose find themselves in was actually a condition the F-14 could get in due to an engine loss and the resulting asymmetric thrust. (It was easily correctable with the proper emergency procedure though...so Mav sucked as a pilot). Goose getting killed by his canopy was actually something that could also happen and did happen once.

[@AuxenceF]

@@schmechel6888 *Mig drop

[@mstevens113]

@@JeepWranglerIslander goose screwed that up, sop was to jettison the canopy before ejecting as it was known the extra time for it to clear was needed before ejecting.

[@ewillats]

@@mstevens113 think he called out that it was jammed and he had to punch it out.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Crazy that the jets were capable of growing up to 3x the size of their carriers once having taken off. Truly amazing engineering feats.

[@jasonchiu272]

They got them pym particles I tell you.

[@fakecubed]

Nah, they only look bigger because they're closer to the camera.

[@JerBuster77]

@@fakecubed whoooooosh

[@fakecubed]

@@JerBuster77 Whoosh on your whoosh. There is no camera.

[@portaadonai]

4:26 I was about to turn off this video because of the graphic nature of the content. But I was satisfied when I saw the he took the time to blur out and censor the cockpit. So now I can continue watching. Thanks

[@finkyfamboni4333]

"all the way into the hangar" what a fucking awesome line.

[@Jknight416]

That story about that one US pilot taking pictures of that Mig pilot during this event is still fresh in my mind. Remember that moment showcased in the Top Gun movie puts a smile on my face.

[@marvnuts]

Keeping up foreign relations.

[@christophermanabat1934]

The F-14 tomcat was such a cool looking jet. Love how the wings can tuck back for more speed

[@krashdown102]

F111 swept wings were cool too

[@TheRandCrews]

@@krashdown102 so did the Tornado and MiG-23/27 & Su-24….F-8 has variable geometry wings, wing go up and down

[@Heavy4th]

As a kid i watched Top Gun every week on my VHS. Finally got to see a F-14 live when i visited New York and besides getting all giggly i was amazed at how large an aircraft it is. It’s huge! They had an Israeli Kfir next to it and it looked like a toy plane in comparison.

[@thedungeondelver]

Interestingly the early plans for the A6 included not only variable geometry wings but variable geometry thrust for shorter takeoff.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

@@Heavy4thThrough sheer luck I was tad and assigned to help turnover at Miramar during the last offload to air station from the Nimitz(iirc) of F-14s before the base transferred over to the Marines. I helped clear out the iconic Officers Club and personally assisted in the dismantling of the bar. Apparently I was happy being temporarily assigned to a SeeBee unit and getting to work around the F-14s over a period of weeks but I still felt bad the whole time dismantling things.

[@pjf674]

3:13 I'm digging the new radar effects. Nicely done.

[@PNurmi]

I was there on the USS Mississippi, CGN-40. Got off the early morning watch and went to the bridge before breakfast. The OOD told me to go to CIC because the F-14s shot down two Libyan jets. I go and was standing nearby the CO when he says "Go for it". A second later GQ was called away when most of the crew were just getting up. GQ was set with Zebra set within 3 minutes. There was a Soviet Kashin cruiser trailing us. We headed north to join up with the carriers. After about 3 or 4 hours, it was clear this was an isolated incident. We secured from GQ and continued with the exercise.

[@michaelcady9936]

I was on the Nimitz that day

[@hirumaryuei]

probably some substantial pucker factor knowing you have a russian cruiser pointing at you

[@PNurmi]

@@hirumaryuei Yes, I was running to my GQ station behind a sailor freaking out on this. With two carriers and 6 cruisers and destroyers nearby, I knew that if the Soviet cruiser did fire on us, it would quickly be an oil slick on the water.

[@cjclark2002]

@@PNurmi to do so would be a death sentence to the seventh degree if the cruiser chose to do so lol, not many humans throw away there lives like that lol. Now those Libyan pilots, wonder if they made it out okay. Don’t want anybody to pass away friend or foe really.

[@captain61games49]

Thats cool can you explain the terms you used like GQ? Zebra?

[@andrewbandos831]

Can we just revist the part of the sidewinder pulling a 45 G turn. How the electronics and other parts of the missle can withstand those conditions is mind blowing. I can just imagine what modern thrust vectoring missiles like the new israeli python 5s can pull.

[@psycho4207]

i dont believe that number is true.

[@erisdiscordia5429]

Kay.. well, 45g isn't a huge amount for inanimate objects that don't have a bunch of squishy interiors full of low pressure fluids being sloshed about from place to place. Humans are quite fragile, steel tubes filled with more steel tubes are less so. Also, just to be a huge pain about the whole thing, 45g is actually less than a human has survived.

[@darkether1170]

He could have said "4 to 5 G", which would be more realistic.

[@bop3752]

@@darkether1170 he just… didnt. Even very early sidewinders from before the Vietnam war can easily pull more than 5g’s

[@Daddy_Lazar1067]

Pulled up alongside * laughs menicingly*

[@2020Max1]

You used the Theodore Roosevelt model in place of the Nimitz. I only point this out because I served 8 years on the Roosevelt and found it funny that at the time of this incident her keel hadn't even been laid yet. 😁

[@tonycorrow7987]

Yep, 8th person to report to TR’s PCU in 1985🙂 thought the same.

[@MrNicoJac]

To a complete noob from Europe, how do you tell the difference? 😅

[@shehranazim4784]

@@MrNicoJac you can just about make out the number on the deck as being "71". It corresponds to the ship's official designation. The Nimitz's official designation was CVN-68, whilst the Theodore Roosevelt was CVN-71.

[@2020Max1]

@@MrNicoJac Yep as Shehran said, the Hull number "71" is the TR, while the Nimitz is "68". Not a big deal really because both ships are from the same class and virtually identical, I just thought it funny because they hadn't even started construction on the Roosevelt at the time of the Gulf of Sidra incident. Another interesting fact is that the TR took the Nimitz place as the flagship of the US 6th fleet after the Nimitz was transferred to the West Coast. TR also picked up the Nimitz Carrier air group which included the Black Aces (VF-41) and the Jolly Rogers (VF-84).

[@TheNYCGoldenGlover]

@@tonycorrow7987 very neat gentlemen. I cant say I would ever want to serve on a ship, especially after my Uncle John went down on the Helena 80 years ago, but I still think the idea of being on a floating city to be pretty cool. I could stand maybe a week though

[@victo2335]

Do something on the Iran-Iraq war with the Tomcats. Both the American and Iranian Tomcats had amazing Air to air kills and I would like to see something from this channel related to the Iran-Iraq war please!.

[@TheRandCrews]

Oh yeah Iranian Tomcats be firing the AIM-54 and shooting down Iraqi jets from their own territory with out having them being seen

[@Rokaize]

The Iranians are actually the most successful users of the f14. Many more aerial kills compared to the US Navy. Even the highest scoring f14 ace is Iranian. It would be great to see such a forgotten bit of history

[@Klajnepojken]

@SuperSabre730EK k

[@victo2335]

@@Rokaize Agreed!

[@Rokaize]

@SuperSabre730EK Iran is under no illusions that it can somehow bear the US and it’s Allie’s in a stand up war. That’s not the point. The idea is to just cause as many casualties as possible and drag the US into a long and bloody conflict. Iran would be a nightmare for the US. Don’t underestimate them.

[@jonathanhazlewood8937]

I am so impressed with the increase in animations, and the zoomed in detail it lets you do! Every time you post more content I have to watch it immediately, then I get pull back into the entire Gulf War series. Thank you for putting so much effort into your content!

[@Firesword534]

Love how the quality of animation is always improving. Showing how one of the Tomcats increased altitude and also catching the 3 wire there at the end when it trapped back aboard the Nimitz. Also showing the different flight deck layout of the Nimitz and Forrestal. Great job!

[@augl2702]

Always love the quality of your videos. Great information delivered very clearly, with great graphics to convey the information and stories further.

[@ericmueller8505]

8:44 a missile pulling a 45G turn is mind boggling

[@crimeon1782]

Honestly, I was dumbstruck a missile could pull such a turn, especially after re-locking to a jet that was making a sharp turn in the process

[@samy7013]

It was a 45 degree turn, not 45G. You misheard. Edit: Apparently you didn’t mishear. He does say “45G turn”, although I think that’s a mistake. There’s no way to measure that post-launch on an AIM-9 Sidewinder, but it can conceivably be estimated to some degree, and the angular correction does appear to be approximately 45 degrees, so maybe that turn fits both of these criteria.

[@crimeon1782]

@@samy7013 No, Aim-9X missles could pull 60Gs going Mach 3, so im not surpirsed a sidewinder could pull 45Gs

[@crimeon1782]

@@pwr2al4 we’re talking about a missle, not a pilot

[@pwr2al4]

@@crimeon1782 my point is that it is not quite as extreme as some may believe, missiles routinely experience huge g forces such as this, occasionally even people do as well.

[@Miranda_Ghost]

Amazing story, very well told, and I noticed the 3D aspect when one of the tomcats climbed higher than the other - very cool! Keep up the sterling work, and many thanks.

[@mac_attack_zach]

I love how he blurred out the cockpit when the pilot flipped the guy off

[@KravKernow]

I loved how you pixellated the finger. But as an aside, would you ever consider a video on how you produce *these* videos? They're just such amazing quality. But I'm especially intrigued by how you do the graphics and synch them up to the narrative.

[@redjaypictures4528]

Unfortunately fast-eagle 107, the other tomcat that took part in the incident, was destroyed in the very same incident which claimed the life of Kara Hultgreen, America’s first ever female fighter pilot

[@spirz4557]

Rest in peace.

[@navyseal1689]

Shot down or crashed

[@redjaypictures4528]

@@navyseal1689 crash, one of her engines had a compressor stall right as she was coming in to land on the carrier, her RIO ejected safely but she did not, the navy concluded that it was a combination of mechanical failure and pilot error

[@5roundsrapid263]

@@redjaypictures4528 She ejected into the water, killing her instantly.

[@queeny5613]

Rest in peace

[@Tophet1]

I read your blurb on Patreon re Pod Casts. Again, as a visual learner your animations are so much easier to understand. Thank you for the work it takes.

[@cefdaunce2272]

Production quality looks incredible, great job as always Operations Room.

[@paulharsh78]

“All the way into the hanger” what a great poet.

[@shadow7988]

Well, before he was president he was an actor, after all, lol. And people gave Trump a bunch of guff for having a game show once like it was something unheard of for a candidate.

[@TealJosh]

@@shadow7988 Reagan had a proper political career before his presidency. Trump had nothing. And the difference in experience was obvious. Not to say he was any better than Trump, they both were very harmful in their own ways.

[@firebanner6424]

@@shadow7988 Well I mean Trump had no political experience before becoming the most powerful person in the world. Reagan was the governor of California.

[@shadow7988]

@@TealJosh Well I mean Biden has 50 years of 'experience' as a politician(For as little as that actually matters in our system), and look how well that's been working out? Clearly, the law-degree-to-career-politician pipeline isn't any more reliable than just voting for someone charismatic.

[@TealJosh]

@@shadow7988 nah bro. I was completely ready to be disappointed by Biden, and I was. But he's been killing it lately. Dark Brandon getting it done. Been blowing way past my expectations on certain things.

[@kieransheldonkelleher9161]

The absolute level of detail, my god.

[@2ZZGE100]

Larry 'Music' Muzynski is on record that he performed a near supersonic maneuver pulling 10.4G while dogfighting the SU-22. Yes, that is 10.4G! That was a violation of the NATOPs where Tomcat pilots were not supposed to execute more than 6.5G for airframe longevity. However, in life and death situations, Tomcat pilots were allowed to do whatever it took to survive. When he landed back and maintainers saw the G-meter pegged at 10+ G, they were so happy about the victories, they did not even mind inspection of the airframe and had a beer with 'Music' (Source: Tomcat Fury by Mike Guardia).

[@cmdmd]

How far can our pilots chase a plane that fired on them. “All the way into the hangar”. Bravo. Most excellent response.

[@verticalflyingb737]

Imagine you're a Fishbed pilot that had just returned to base after a long and exhausting operation, and after you park your aircraft in the hangar and climb out, you get greeted by a US pilot with a baseball bat in his hands

[@granddukeofmecklenburg]

@@verticalflyingb737 Imagine your a fishbed pilot flying against F-14s...

[@BeingFireRetardant]

Reagan was such a boss... no one's even come close since.

[@tadferd4340]

@@BeingFireRetardant Shame about his garbage economics.

[@gamermccoolman9312]

@@verticalflyingb737 I wonder how many baseballs it would take to down a fishbed? Maybe you could get one in the big intake and destroy the engine?

[@robertsansone1680]

I knew a guy who was on a submarine, the U.S.S. Whale, when this occurred. He literally heard those two Libyan planes splash. He was an apolitical type of guy. (he couldn't tell a Republican from a Democrat) He said that when Reagan allowed local Commanders to use their own discretion on the use of force, the morale of the entire fleet went up.

[@roseanaburnett6257]

I was there and it did got to say Reagan did not play we called him Ronald the Ray Gun Lmao SEMPER FI

[@16rumpole]

back when the president wasn't a soyboy

[@robertsansone1680]

@@16rumpole Amen

[@johns9652]

I was in the Norfolk/VA Beach area as a young boy, just a month or so after this incident took place, people were buzzing with renewed patriotism and optimism. The Carter years were such crap what with the gas crisis and the failed hostage rescue thing, people really latched onto this one event. I remember on the boardwalk in VA Beach there were vendors selling t-shirts with F-14s on them, with some variations, like "US Navy 2, Libya 0", stuff like that.

[@robertsansone1680]

@@johns9652 I miss Reagan.

[@jiajinkhoo3469]

Another great video. Keep up the good work :)

[@Mega-P71]

Every video you make is absolutely amazing

[@thudthud5423]

4:33 Okay, the pixelized cockpit during the "gesture" was a violation of the "The Operations Room will maintain a serious tone throughout its presentation (except, on April 1...maybe)" Rule.

[@boerdi]

Love your videos! But the Nimitz is CVN-68 :p (CVN-71 is the Theodore Roosevelt, commissioned in 1986)

[@highlander723]

opps

[@theohedd289]

Super excited to see you portray this!

[@theohedd289]

Also, do you have any plans to portray Operation El Dorado Canyon at some point? I think that would be an awesome video to watch.

[@nolancarlson5505]

I think this content is great. Thank you! Minor note on the animations- the hull number for the Nimitz is 68* and the animation has 71. Just a fun tidbit for anyone curious. God Bless!

[@christmas6666]

4:28 I love how you blurred out the "flipping the bird" lol

[@AbbyTheAbinator]

omg nice!! excited for this one!

[@whirledpeas3477]

Talk to me Goose

[@Pete_Finch]

For some reason, the thought of a Sidewinder missile ambitiously locking onto the sun made me laugh.

[@jeremyhess7977]

The AIM-9 is an IR missile, and the sun is a heat source. If you launch directly into the sun, it's possible to confuse the missile and it won't lock on the intended target.

[@Buckaroo27]

I had "Highway to the Danger Zone" playing in my head while watching this. Great post.

[@Twitchy1]

Fun fact this is the first combat test of the AIM-9L “Lima” variant, it was universal for both Naval and Air Force use and considerably more advanced than the previous versions. It would see its first widespread use in the Falklands conflict a year later where Sea Harriers armed with AIM-9Ls defeated Argentine aircraft with extreme prejudice, no Harrier was shot down by an enemy aircraft during the conflict.

[@flankspeed]

The sea harriers were manoeuvrable af compared to their adversaries, and hugely underestimated at the time. But the extra punch from the 9L was a crucial ingredient. It was the first heatseeker that didn't require you to fire from the enemy's 6, and it shocked the Argentine pilots.

[@uffa00001]

"no Harrier was shot down by an enemy aircraft during the conflict" the main fighting plane of the Argentinian aviation was an Aermacchi MB-326, an old trainer, plus the Argentine pilots did not have sufficient fuel to engage battle with the British pilots, because that would have prevented them to reach the Argentinian coast. Most Argentinian pilots' lives were lost this way, because of lack of fuel during the return flight. British pilots knew that they just needed to keep the Argentinian pilots engaged for a while for them being unable to return to their base.

[@Twitchy1]

@@uffa00001 Dagger, Mirage and Skyhawk jet fighters were present.

[@uffa00001]

@@Twitchy1 Yes, but of the 61 planes lost by the Argentinian, most were lost IIRC due to the range problem. Mirages had even worse problems than Aermacchis. IIRC Argentinians pilots did everything to avoid dogfighting with the Harriers due to these range problems. Their orders were to try to escape and try to bring the plane back home, which wasn't easy for an Aermacchi, which could be forced into a fight by a Harrier (a Mirage probably could escape the fight more easily).

[@tetraxis3011]

@@uffa00001 Wrong information, Argentina did NOT lose 61 aircraft. That would mean the complete destruction of the argentine air force. which didnt happen as the Mirage 3 and 5 would continue to serve until 2015 in decent numbers.

[@doctorzoidberg1715]

I like the fact that your videos are objective and fact based and using simple visuals that convey everything clearly is amazing.

[@kurkotain]

It's impressive how the production value of each video surpasses the last, considering how high quality your videos already are. You are the best channel in KZbin for this kind content. Only Montemayor is comparable in quality, but he does long form Naval battles analisis, so it's understandable he prioritizes different things. However I find myself wishing the air combat part of his videos could be more like yours, because of the details that make everything so understandable and the high quality. Keep it up, you are the best.

[@Gregnier]

okay. this is the first time i've seen the "larger aircraft means higher up" visual cue on your videos. I love it. So intuitive. Nicely done.

[@steadyjumper3547]

The Censoring joke is literally why I love this channel.

[@mpdymond]

Huge history buff and esp. military history (OIF veteran) I stumbled across your channel today and can’t stop watching. Great work man. I love it.

[@NATO32Nations]

This is why I love this channel so much. As someone who researches military history on a daily basis, there’s nothing I love more, than a guy who puts this much effort in creating military engagements. Many of which very few outside this kind of community have probably heard of. I always love your videos and I hope you put out more. Coincidentally, I’ve been researching Operation El Dorado Canyon, and this just helps with my Libyan-American military research.

[@madmaximus2836]

It is a highlight of my day every time I see you uploaded a new video. I love 'em.

[@darkchocolate1083]

I think a video on the Invasion of Grenada(Operation Urgent Fury) would be good.

[@cm275]

Or Operation Just Cause in Panama.

[@tetraxis3011]

Ah yes because The mighty us military vs 600 guys with AKs is even remotely worthy of mention.

[@darkchocolate1083]

@@tetraxis3011 I mean, if the Gulf of Sidra was “worthy of a mention” then why not Grenada? It was a MUCH bigger deal. Hell, Sidra is not even officially called a battle, just an “incident”.

[@tetraxis3011]

@@darkchocolate1083 Grenada is NOT bigger than the gulf of Sidra by any means. Like I said, it was the US military vs 600 guys with AKs. Operation Just cause might be worthy of a video though.

[@darkchocolate1083]

@@tetraxis3011 Gulf of Sidra involved only four people, so “600 guys with AKs” would still be a way bigger conflict. Plus, Operations Room did a video on the Iranian Embassy Siege, which only had 6 terrorists, so Grenada definitely wouldn’t be too small for them to cover.

[@northwatch8532]

The added detail of blurring the finger was brilliant!

[@hmmjedi]

Another well executed video great to see and thank you.

[@workingjellyfish]

Love your channel, brother. This kind of content was very lacking on KZbin, glad you filled the void. Keep up the great work.

[@danielm4386]

I love how the movie Top Gun took the move of flipping off the opposing aircraft and taking a photo of them 😂

[@pekkakoski6595]

The Op Room! Guaranteed quality stuff.

[@Swimavidly]

The blurred middle finger made me chuckle.

[@randomv3iwer]

I remember as a kid back in the 1990’s during Political Studies class (a mandatory thing for all Libyan students) we were told that engagement was a victory for our regime and the media kept rolling the footage of the body of downed F-111 pilot. Even as a child, I couldn’t fathom how can a couple of watered down MiG’s defeat the Tomcats. My uncle, who’s a retired air force mechanic, always doubted what the regime was claiming since he know how poorly the Air Force personales were treated and how severely their equipment were lacking. Some say even pilots who were sent on that day were marked as decedents and the regime wanted them silenced by with outside hands. It wasn’t a fair fight but at least they died fighting. No ill will towards the US Air Force. Just soldiers following orders. Cheers

[@uffa00001]

For what I remember, only one pilot died, the other was shown in Libyan TV as a hero (as seen from Italy).

[@randomv3iwer]

@@uffa00001 I know. Till this day the Libyans claims their pilot shot down Henry Kleemann’s F-14 and everyone and their mother believe this. It’s pure propaganda.

[@CircaSriYak]

This is such a weird world we live in

[@heinzerbrew]

Just checking. It seemed like in the video the U.S. forces were in your territory, and your planes were shot down for defending it. Is that correct? Did I misunderstand the video?

[@maxwellromo3077]

Yeah facts but these American Pilots are the best in the world, the top dogs, no one compares to these guys. They dominate these missions for a reason.

[@OBJ317]

My guys. It seems all I do is repeat myself when commenting. You guys almost have me motivated to rejoin the service. Long live the greatest generations of warriors that came before mine. Go navy, beat army. And above all else, Go Operations room. The pinnacle of Animated history when it comes to the wars of the past.

[@erisdiscordia5429]

mmm low key nationalism. Does a body good.

[@treyhelms5282]

"All the way into the hangar". Love it.

[@JimmyDickens1]

Small point to an otherwise excellent video: Your animated aircraft carrier Nimitz is depicted with a “71”. Nimitz is “68”. 71 is USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT. I served 2.5 years on TR. Great ship!

[@rickscott7350]

Nice to see it from that perspective. I was there as Airborne EW Op on a US Navy EP-3E. We had 2 based out of Sicially flying 8-10 hour missions each, Relieving each other. Was a hot and stressful week.

[@d.olivergutierrez8690]

Awesome content as always, this graphical displays are invaluable history wise, would you plan to continue on the Guadalcanal and salomon campaigns? There are battles there that will benefit of your coverage

[@jonathan_hitt7589]

Its a good day when I log in and see a post from The Operations Room.

[@ttrestle]

By sheer coincidence, I taught myself about this incident a few weeks ago (I’m 42) and watched/listened to the military’s official video and audio. I also read the various interviews with those involved although some of them vary on details.

[@matthewporter7410]

Love the new 3D animations! keep it up

[@timothyshearer6538]

Oh wow the new animations are sexy! Will we see fully animated stuff once you pass 1 million subs? Even just basic banking and rolling animations really step up the visuals

[@robwernet9609]

As always the animations are awesome! Right down to the differences in carriers and even the tomcat catching the arresting gear.

[@avnut5517]

I had no idea this was the real Top Gun story. What a fantastic video!

[@zestoslife]

Do loved the 'blurred out' middle finger. Nice touch.

[@Emrald7]

I love that but at the end. It’s incredible to know that these aircraft are preserved to honor the men and the Navy, and their stories. Keep up the great work sir.

[@mathewstrommen4154]

Where is the honor in shooting down aircraft when you're in another country's airspace?

[@colemanmoore9871]

@@mathewstrommen4154 They were over international water and the other guy fired first. It would be like if someone claimed the road was part of their property and shot at every car that drove past. Then the police pulled up, and waited until they got shot at. Then they shoot the guy that started the whole the whole thing.

[@gamermccoolman9312]

@Milk Guzzler even if the shootdown is questionable, the pilots aren't killing women and children, so they're a lot better than Putin.

[@HammerRocks]

I huge fan of the F14. Good to know that "Fast Eagle 102" is on display in Midlands Tx. I might go and visit that museum one day, and take a look.

[@buckdanny9062]

How would you feel about making one (or several) videos on the air-sea-land battle about the falklands?

[@chuxtux6379]

You and oversimplified are the GOATs of history telling

[@pb2959]

When the US has TWO aircraft carriers on your doorstep, you are doing it wrong

[@daniele2979]

No, u are just being bullied by USA

[@mikef-gi2dg]

The way these videos are presented is fantastic.

[@fyreantz2555]

So the Tomcat driver flips off one of the MIG pilots...but was he inverted..?

[@strawberyyicecreamdream216]

I live near Midland, I didn't know that there was a fighter jet on display. I am going to check it out, thank you for adding that actually.

[@samy7013]

For the most interesting and high intensity F-14 Tomcat air combat action, look up the history of the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF). The IRIAF was the only operator to truly put the F-14 Tomcat through its paces when comes to air combat.

[@RodrigoLobosChile]

Kudos for the best animations in all @KZbin.

[@Newdivide]

The second incident happened 8 years later. Two mig-23s were shot down by two F14s

[@pampaalexandru]

Neat! I'm always happy when i see you upload a new video! Thanks!

[@loganb7059]

Say what you will about ol’ Reagan. His foreign policy was absolutely based. “Your ROE extend all the way to the hangar” lol

[@drparadox2106]

still my favorite analysis channel on youtube

[@SiriusMined]

The F-14 entered service in 1974. They weren't exactly "brand new"

[@davidmcleod5133]

New enough that I’m distressed that a single fighter had malfunctions in both its missile AND short-range radar at the same time.

[@lancerevell5979]

During my ASW Frigate's Med/IO deployment in 1983, we sailed into the Gulf Of Sidra, crossing Kadaffy's "Line Of Death" several times. His forces never came out to play.

[@heinzerbrew]

I can't help but realize that if another country did the same thing to us, they would be the bad guys. For example, if a country put a military force on our Alaskan border and shot down two of our planes for the audacity of defending our borders. I had no idea we did this kind of stuff.

[@okisoba]

Other countries do this kind of things to us regularly. Russia flies fighters and bombers off Alaska on a regular basis. They recently flew bombers within 40 miles off the California coast. China flies its fighters and bombers near Taiwanese and Japanese territory regularly as well. As long as they are over international waters (and not shooting at us), we don't shoot at them. In this case, the Americans were over international waters (per international standards of being 12 plus nautical miles from the coastline) and were fired on over international waters. Self-defense was justified. And the premise of the exercise near Libya was justified, IMO. Gaddafi was claiming well beyond the recognized limit nearly every nation on earth used to define territorial waters.

[@steammanx]

You're not wrong about that

[@Tom-2142]

They didn’t go inside Libyan recognised territorial waters, they were in international waters when the Libyans came for them. They’re allowed to defend themselves.

[@lopeasy3778]

This guy knows nothing about international law

[@timalexander7758]

Always great to see a new video!! Much appreciated!!!

[@Thanatos833]

The Su 22 is a close air support aircraft, why on earth were the Libyans using it as an interceptor? Also, how on earth did they translate the communication from the Libyan pilot, presumably in Arabic, stating that he (the Libyan pilot) was going to fire?

[@92Psyco]

There is a profession called interpretor

[@Thanatos833]

@@92Psyco I'm aware there is, however I wasn't aware that interpreters are present in battlefields whose job is to translate the enemies communications and then relay them to friendly fighter pilots.

[@tetraxis3011]

Still doesnt explain why Lybia was using a CAS jet as an interceptor.

[@VileCAESARB]

Narration has much improved, many thanks for the video.

[@petertimowreef9085]

"Violation of international law" implies there's a universal international law everyone adheres to. But from the Libyan perspective that's just Western and especially US imperialism.

[@googleminus1442]

No law is universally adhered to. Not a single one. It's about consensus. If nearly every country's perspective is that the gulf of sidra is NOT libyan, and these states have the power to make an effort to enforce it, then the libyan perspective matters little.

[@Franfran2424]

This. They were provocating Lybia for no reason (shorter navigation routes) but to enter the waters that common sense (inside lybian territory, closer to them than anyone else) indicates are basically Lybian. Typical imperialism tbh

[@okisoba]

@@Franfran2424 It was a good excuse to challenge Kaddafi. He started a war to take territory in Chad (the Aouzou Strip), was supporting what a lot of people would consider extremist regimes in Africa and sending troops and air support to support them, allowing what the UK, Israel and most of the West would consider terrorists to train in Libya, and so on... There were reasons.

[@googleminus1442]

@@Franfran2424 The gulf was Libyan territory? Recognized by who? Borders and international law aren't decided by "common sense". They're pretty specific, actually.

[@petertimowreef9085]

@@googleminus1442 You are right, crucial bit being "to make an effort to enforce it". Might makes right. What you see as consensus might really be economic and military strong arming by a small group of entities forcing everybody else to follow suit.

[@Sedward9]

Great video as always!

[@thegreatestevil1616]

no way, did he really flip off one of the pilots? i always thought that was some hollywood BS, that just made my day

[@mattyb567567]

Look up some of the stupid shit Chinese pilots have done lol

[@stevendubin5871]

He was communicating with the other pilot

[@Thermalburn]

I will forever love 4th generation fighters. I think I have such a soft spot and nostalgia for them because I grew seeing them at airshows and media.

[@Dexter-nw2fe]

45g!? How do aa missiles have such a high turn rate

[@512TheWolf512]

That's the difference between your cities remaining standing and being erased from reality from ruZZain missiles, so God bless the Americans for making such awesome missiles. Well, thank the soviets for their ones as well

[@rekram1519]

i remember you being at less than 200k subs not too long ago, impressive growth keep up the good work