The Rear Lat Spread *Whose was the Best?*

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Marx Max Muscle

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@DoomAxe48
@DoomAxe48 4 жыл бұрын
Not to take anything away from these videos, but it should be "Whose was the best?" Who's is a contraction for who is. Keep up the great work with these best of videos.
@marxmaxmuscle1
@marxmaxmuscle1 4 жыл бұрын
no one ever accused me of being a good speller. Thank you very much
@JerryRiceBall
@JerryRiceBall 3 жыл бұрын
Not to take anything away from your comment.. but it should be “Brooks”. “Garth” is the first name...”Brooks” is the last name... and “Garth Brooks” is the full name. Not sure what “Witmer” is or where it fits in. Anyway, keep up the great work with your commenting. 🏋🏻🏋🏻🏋🏻
@skullkid112
@skullkid112 4 жыл бұрын
This on the same day as tomn8ers best lats video? We’re truly blessed.
@danielvergara5802
@danielvergara5802 4 жыл бұрын
You could've included Joel Stubbs as an honorable mention. He had an incredible back development (the rest of his physique not so incredible)
@toilaconhaisam3037
@toilaconhaisam3037 4 жыл бұрын
His pecs are good also
@xanderguldie
@xanderguldie 4 жыл бұрын
His back was unbelievable
@paddedcell4901
@paddedcell4901 4 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of Joel Stubbs until I read this post, just googled the fella 😲😲 His back is ridiculous! Cheers for mentioning him
@karmatic6103
@karmatic6103 3 жыл бұрын
His pecs/delts were top notch
@Patrick_Gameman95
@Patrick_Gameman95 4 жыл бұрын
I’m italian and i’m watching this video at 04:51am while I’mdrinking my protein shake, you deserve more subscribers man
@christian_urocar
@christian_urocar 4 жыл бұрын
This video was so dope ! Replay like how you went through evolution of bodybuilding!
@Ledzepisbest1
@Ledzepisbest1 4 жыл бұрын
Phil, coleman, then Yates are my votes. Keep em comin
@bigpapaadam1
@bigpapaadam1 Жыл бұрын
Franco’s back was insane! Full and wide from top to bottom! Arnold used to make fun of him for getting bruises on his upper chest from doing chin-ups too fast bruising his upper chest on the bar 😂
@stephenr80
@stephenr80 11 ай бұрын
Phil Heath brought Rivers and Valleys to quote Lui Marco. Never seen something like that. Best back ever not even close. Lee H. Was insane too. Roy calender???? Bro!!
@benjaminanderson4615
@benjaminanderson4615 4 жыл бұрын
FRANCO was awesome in his prime. Notice there is no light showing between his arms and lats.. He is virtually blocking out the light with his lats.
@odessafile75
@odessafile75 4 жыл бұрын
Callender had a fantastic torso like Robby. I saw him guest pose in Montreal in 1979. I agree great back ( and pecs)
@mastereppsreturns6586
@mastereppsreturns6586 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a rear double bicep next? It's my favorite pose
@arvidpetersson2252
@arvidpetersson2252 4 жыл бұрын
I would give it the ronnie, I always believed that ronnies best pose was his back lat spread, his back double doesn't look hard at all, in fact it looks watery and soft but his back lat is HUGE it looks like muscle, phil or dorian will prob win in the back double, but ronnie wins in this shot. The 2000 shot of his back lat spread is the best picture of a back lat spread ever, the lower half inst dominating but it is still better than everyone, and the Christmas tree there is so picture perfect, he looks wide and hard, just god like in my opinion. THE KING WINS THIS POSE!
@EduardoPerez-gk1gj
@EduardoPerez-gk1gj 4 жыл бұрын
First also can you do a Paul damayo vs Dorian yates
@arthurw1604
@arthurw1604 4 жыл бұрын
lol that has to be a coincidence that tom put that up too xD
@marxmaxmuscle1
@marxmaxmuscle1 4 жыл бұрын
I know, I commented on his video. I didnt want him to think I stole his Idea.
@jameshammond4419
@jameshammond4419 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah nice I like the guessing makes it more interesting great job
@svenlechtenberg8119
@svenlechtenberg8119 2 жыл бұрын
2003 ronnie is unbeatable
@Leo-2503
@Leo-2503 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.
@speedychicken831
@speedychicken831 4 жыл бұрын
the best bodybuilding channel!
@IakovosSianoudis
@IakovosSianoudis 4 жыл бұрын
Joel Stubbs' rear lat spread was legen.. wait for it..dary!!
@mdsammy
@mdsammy 4 жыл бұрын
What about Samir Bannout?
@marxmaxmuscle1
@marxmaxmuscle1 4 жыл бұрын
great back, best back double bicep, but his lat spread wasn't the best.
@M.J.D.R
@M.J.D.R 4 жыл бұрын
Are u joking ?
@thebigpicture2032
@thebigpicture2032 4 жыл бұрын
You may want to check out his lat spread again. Thick low insertions with lots of detail.
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, the fact that he didn't even get a mention is even more ridiculous, yet he put Dennis Wolf and Chris Dickerson in. 🤦‍♂️Smmfh.
@mrcallofdutyman1
@mrcallofdutyman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@marxmaxmuscle1 You must be smoking some good stuff. You even gave Bannout the back lat spread vs Haney in a video you did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4jPfX2fYt-WrKM Bannout had a christmas tree and sick details in his back lat spread. IMO, it's the most aesthetic to date.
@DurinDaemonenmetzler
@DurinDaemonenmetzler 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Tony Pearson in the 80's - his rear lart spread matches that of Lee Haney.
@jasmaart
@jasmaart 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that you didn't mention Joel Stubbs, he definitely had one of the greatest backs of all time!!! He had weak legs, but amazing back development, better then most of this guys.
@Wikingking
@Wikingking 4 жыл бұрын
I'd go with that 99 pic of Ronnie with crisp lower back and still awesome width and mass on the back. Also I must tell, some of those dudes you've only mentioned for once had insane backs, McMillan in particular, with that at 14:52...I mean damn, with some extra crisp on the lower body this is just Phil's back but wider. Talking about unrealised potential. But as for the final trio, it's: - Dorian for flow and width - Ronnie for upper-lower balance, width, mass and freakiness - Phil for crazy detail, 3D and devastating muscle maturity/conditioning. It's a toss-up, based on personal preference. I'd go with that 99 Coleman picture. That's unmatched.
@Wikingking
@Wikingking 4 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa it's a matter of personal preference but - with all due respect as I feel you have great knowledge on the topic - I don't really need you to come and tell me how Dorian is superiror to anyone ever :D I just don't find Yates' physique that appealing, he himself is an illusion in poses like the side tricep, he has an awkward tricep muscle but the way he hits it is phenomenal. His back is crazy good, but I find "certain" Ronnie years to be better, Dorian was more consistent though. Also, width is a thing you know, compared to Phil, both are wide and Ronnie WAS wide. Maybe not as wide as Yates or Cutler, but wide. Also, (if the scaling was correct) I've just measured the maximum back width of both and Ronnie had it 2 pixels wider...just a hair and it could be slightly off, but even then, their width was very similar. And if anyone, Dorian had an imbalance in the rear latspread, but it is true that for the sake of the pose and the natural eye it is more preferable to have it top heavy, so this is why it seems that Ronnie's massive lower body throws off balance. In the meanwhile, Yates is very wide upstairs and his legs didn't follow, similar to how Haney looked with smaller legs but very well developed back (calves do though). Has a great taper though and true, Ronnie's lower body developed maybe even more by 2003 than his upper so it didn't help his cause of balancing upper and lower.
@Wikingking
@Wikingking 4 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa Ok, fine, I like your approach and arguments. But you have to admit that very clash very often around Ronnie and Dorian and it is often that I leave a comment praising Coleman and you come with a reply pointing out how Dorian was better :) And still I insist that for me in particular, that 99 photo of Ronnie (I think it is a post-show studio pic but not sure) tops every other rear lat spread pose ever. It's a personal preference. I understand if someone has Phil's - arguably more complete - hands clasped MM over Kevin's for example, but still, I'd go with Kevin.
@Wikingking
@Wikingking 4 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa Yes, I understand this is why I said that Yates was more consistent. I'd still pick his front lat over his back, I mean in that pose his superiority over others is more obvious or less debatable imo.
@Majd_qaryouti
@Majd_qaryouti 3 жыл бұрын
In my own humble opinion Big Ramy definitely have the second best rear lat spread after Ronnie Coleman, he proved that right in the 2020 Mr Olympia
@roystone4396
@roystone4396 4 жыл бұрын
B,building is such an unusual sport not one competitor looks like another I could never be a judge would give me a head ache
@akushagangurde8380
@akushagangurde8380 3 жыл бұрын
Big Ronn.!!
@alexandruene4247
@alexandruene4247 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn`t there a picture of Joel Stubbs?I think he had one of,if not, the best rear relaxed pose. P.S: It`s hard to choose between those 3 but i would think Dorian comes at #3 , Phil looks more conditioned than Ronnie(he had a LOT of beef on his lats)
@dieterromanwicht6
@dieterromanwicht6 Жыл бұрын
5:59 Back Triceps from Kevin from another planet
@szodoss7764
@szodoss7764 2 жыл бұрын
The widest back are Orville Bruke and Joel Stubbs.
@johnhumble4240
@johnhumble4240 3 жыл бұрын
If you guys saw Tony Pearson rear lat spread, he destroys everyone because his waist and hips were so small Not as small as Brian Buchanan in the waist but wider than Brian Look up Tony Pearson No one touches his rear lat spread
@shawndaniel4343
@shawndaniel4343 4 жыл бұрын
Orville Burke was amazing!!!!!👍🏻
@88KUNGFUMAN
@88KUNGFUMAN 3 жыл бұрын
it's easier for Phil to show greater density and thickness because he's not so wide. But Kai is twice as wide from the back as Phil.
@pramitbiswas8772
@pramitbiswas8772 4 жыл бұрын
Brother Marx, you forgot Marko Salvolainen. According to me, he had the best Rear Lat Spread.
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 4 жыл бұрын
Actually Samir Bannout brought the best back during the early 80s, he's the origin of the term "Christmas tree." Lee Haney did not have a back better and more complete than Samir Bannout, no way!
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 4 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa it's not just about width, it's about the whole back. When someone lacks width they can make up for ot in other ways like lat thickness and a V taper, rhomboids and Teres development, all the back muscles make up a lat spread. It would be ignorant to suggest that width alone was the deciding factor in a back lat spread as a front double bicep doesn't just involve the size of one's biceps, its the flow of the whole physique that gets judged.
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 4 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa and if Bannout had a Heath kinda back, then why is Phil Heath being compared to Ronnie and Dorian? kind of a contradiction don't you think?
@johnhumble4240
@johnhumble4240 3 жыл бұрын
True But after 83 Lee blew him away for the rest of his career Samir even left for a few years and win victories in NABBA But in the IFBB , NABBA a was 2nd tier after the 80’s Winners in the NABBA weren’t even placing top five in the olympia once Haneys era came in
@kimyboi
@kimyboi 4 жыл бұрын
Mike francois is so underrated, to think what he could be had he not have colitis
@Aminehordy
@Aminehordy 4 жыл бұрын
The third picture represent Larry Scott notre Sergio
@jameshammond4419
@jameshammond4419 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say Chris Dickerson had some great calves
@texashistorian7966
@texashistorian7966 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie, Phil then Dorian
@raditzdaimao1357
@raditzdaimao1357 6 ай бұрын
When you side by side Dorian Ronnie and Phil - Surprisingly Phil wins IMO
@nickbritten8132
@nickbritten8132 4 жыл бұрын
Joel Stubbs perhaps?
@88KUNGFUMAN
@88KUNGFUMAN 3 ай бұрын
Phil has a very dense and detailed back but the pose is designed to showcase ones width. Heath just disnt jave it.
@brunocontiero5310
@brunocontiero5310 4 жыл бұрын
pound for pound Columbu....
@bjmoreno043
@bjmoreno043 2 жыл бұрын
phil heath in 2017 is insane
@andrespacheco151
@andrespacheco151 4 жыл бұрын
hey man tomn8er upload a video similar to yours , whats up ?
@marxmaxmuscle1
@marxmaxmuscle1 4 жыл бұрын
i know man, I commented on his video. I guess great minds think alike lol
@michaelmayers3622
@michaelmayers3622 4 жыл бұрын
Its gona happen
@FloridaManMatty
@FloridaManMatty Жыл бұрын
Dwarf Yates? Come on now. We’re all looking at the same photos here. Haney’s width was comparable to Yates at the 91 Olympia, but Dorian was thicker and dryer. And don’t forget that Dorian won the muscularity round in that competition. So dwarf Yates? Nah.
@xaviervega468
@xaviervega468 10 ай бұрын
Except he was dwarfing Yates, especially from the waist up. Only thing that kept Dorian i the hunt was his legs. Dorian might have been drier, but no way in hell was he thicker in 91
@lawrencerobinson9870
@lawrencerobinson9870 4 жыл бұрын
Phil has to much detail in his back. Phil wins for me.
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 3 жыл бұрын
this comparison right here? maybe so. Still wouldn't give him the win simply because he's the smallest and the least wide. I mean it's a lat spread, width is MANDATORY and he simply hasn't any in comparison to Ronnie and especially Yates. Go watch Yates' 1997 back lat spread, that's lights out.
@lawrencerobinson9870
@lawrencerobinson9870 3 жыл бұрын
@@dj_m19 but detail counts for something not just width if that was the case the widest guy would win every time which doesn’t happen. You have to remember it’s how much you fill your physique out and you can only do that so much and judges know.
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencerobinson9870 of course it's important but it comes secondary to width. Is it really, because you are being compared on stage to other bb-ers and their physiques, not how developed you are for your own structure and how filled out you are on your own or else we'd have 10 time Mr. O in names like Lee Priest.
@lawrencerobinson9870
@lawrencerobinson9870 3 жыл бұрын
@@dj_m19 actually your wrong a person can only open their frame up so much and judges tell bodybuilders all the time after a competition they lost that they need to fill out more get bigger bring up a body part etc. so yea I am right it’s not just one thing it’s the whole physique. The lat spread is how well you can spread your lats with showing the detail in the refinery of the muscle Separation while being proportioned and filling it out with your physique it’s not just one muscle being judged at that one pose it’s the physique with it
@lawrencerobinson9870
@lawrencerobinson9870 3 жыл бұрын
@@dj_m19 and you are being judged as a individual as well as being compared to see who’s physique is better that’s how a winner is chosen
@michealgreforcyk3095
@michealgreforcyk3095 2 жыл бұрын
Franco yates 2 of the bast back
@raditzdaimao1357
@raditzdaimao1357 6 ай бұрын
Many under rate Cormier , I had him 2nd in 99’ Olympia
@rajhans8346
@rajhans8346 4 жыл бұрын
where's Joel Stubbs?
@acecutler6929
@acecutler6929 4 жыл бұрын
Franco can dominate 212 category today.
@travelreview5962
@travelreview5962 3 жыл бұрын
Well he did compete in the under 200 category. Sean Ray and Lee Priest are probably the 2 guys that would've benefited most from the 212 division, at least IMO. 👍
@gordonlowes5959
@gordonlowes5959 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Pearson had a good back
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 4 жыл бұрын
Phil H is the best ever! 🏅🏅🏅🏅
@yussefcheaitou
@yussefcheaitou Жыл бұрын
10:40 lmao
@MrTaeRox
@MrTaeRox 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the legendary big lenny
@harikrishnan680
@harikrishnan680 2 жыл бұрын
Dorian all day
@diaz0051
@diaz0051 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t think I’ve ever seen Branch Warren in any videos I’ve seen
@velikovjr2138
@velikovjr2138 4 жыл бұрын
Mm...Tough one Phil has more details from the back than Ronnie and Dorian.Ronnie is the widest and also pretty ripped from behind. Dorian's back it's soo massive, but Ronnie and Phil are having more details (in my opinion of course). Soo.. i will pick Ronnie, because of the combination between mass and development.😉
@yousefassayed5354
@yousefassayed5354 4 жыл бұрын
Velikov JR don’t forget he beats both in the glutes and hamstrings.
@yousefassayed5354
@yousefassayed5354 4 жыл бұрын
Cutler is known to be one of the widest bodybuilders of all time. No surprise that Ronnie is slightly more narrow than he is. However, Dorian in ‘95 is just as wide as Kevin in the rear lat spread meaning Dorian’s width isnt as impressive as Ronnie, who used to be much wider than Kevin in the lat spread. Ronnie’s glutes and hamstrings make dorian look like classic physique, no comparison. As great as Dorian was, he’d be the greatest bodybuilder of all time had Ronnie Coleman not blew up. www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=588461.0;attach=662516;image
@johnhumble4240
@johnhumble4240 3 жыл бұрын
@LucianPopa Ronnie has calf implants but took them out eventually like Dex and Flex all three had zero calves Phil has fantastic real calves just sayin Tony Pearson has the best lat spread I’ve ever seen, ever !!!!!
@johnhumble4240
@johnhumble4240 3 жыл бұрын
@LucianPopa he really did Lucian So did Dex and Flex as well I’ve been a bodybuilding fan for 40 years My dad was a champion bodybuilder in montana and had a club We met lots of pros im telling you the truth
@88KUNGFUMAN
@88KUNGFUMAN 3 жыл бұрын
compare Cormier to Ronnie..notice his upper traps are not too bulbous. Ronnies upper traps detract from his delts and make him looked hunched over.
@harrycroft3174
@harrycroft3174 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman has huge traps. No one else compares.
@vortanoise.2625
@vortanoise.2625 3 жыл бұрын
2:21 imagine now 1992 Dorian Yates in that lineup...
@88KUNGFUMAN
@88KUNGFUMAN 3 ай бұрын
Imo colemans traps(upper) are TOO big. Remember its a back LAT spread..not upper trap spread.
@jameshammond4419
@jameshammond4419 4 жыл бұрын
That pic of Dorian is the worst for detail to be fair Check out the difference in the lighting
@mikesullivan5266
@mikesullivan5266 2 жыл бұрын
Franco 👍
@MrSuperPsymon
@MrSuperPsymon 4 жыл бұрын
Pound for pound Franco.
@lassejupin6684
@lassejupin6684 4 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is obviously the best
@behshadruby4483
@behshadruby4483 4 жыл бұрын
You definitely forgot hadi choopans lat spread
@giorgosbathory8698
@giorgosbathory8698 2 жыл бұрын
yates.
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 4 жыл бұрын
Tomn8tor posted litterally the same topic of discussion a few hours before you, what's going on. 🤔
@黃晨傑-w3m
@黃晨傑-w3m 4 жыл бұрын
Phil ⟩⟩⟩⟩ Ronnie ⟩⟩⟩ others
@ErekleOnikashvili3
@ErekleOnikashvili3 4 жыл бұрын
nah man put 1999 ronnies rear lat and it’s game over
@jupirajkumar9721
@jupirajkumar9721 3 жыл бұрын
👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻for not picking phil for the win..
@yashurathod3788
@yashurathod3788 4 жыл бұрын
u didn't mention "da bull"
@nickdebease
@nickdebease 3 жыл бұрын
Sergio OLI VIA
@coltondoesfitness4580
@coltondoesfitness4580 4 жыл бұрын
I like your opinion over toms anyway.
@bthvnyt
@bthvnyt 4 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering about old school champions like Jack Dellinger 1956 NABBA Mr Universe and damn they were tops no doubt about it. And they looked healthy not like sick toxic chemical lumps of BS of today. Just my opinion. But modern BB have gone too far way too far.
@travelreview5962
@travelreview5962 3 жыл бұрын
:52 ... it's that really another picture of Sergio Oliva?? It looks like a white guy..lol. Am I trippppppin?
@smythdwg
@smythdwg 4 жыл бұрын
Video wasn't long enough You left out Joel Stubbs
@doubledouble941
@doubledouble941 4 жыл бұрын
Franco Columbia?
@hamza-dz-gamer3993
@hamza-dz-gamer3993 4 жыл бұрын
you forget Mohammed Benaziza The Giants Killer
@J.R.__
@J.R.__ 3 жыл бұрын
Art Atwood would not destroy Yates and/or Coleman 🙄
@lightmarcial8614
@lightmarcial8614 4 жыл бұрын
Phil has a 212 back and should not even mentioned .
@IvefoundthetruthonMay
@IvefoundthetruthonMay 4 жыл бұрын
Payaso
@88KUNGFUMAN
@88KUNGFUMAN 3 жыл бұрын
I'll say whose was **not** the best: Phil Heath!! I know you are a fan. He's done a great job of building his back but to have a "spread" you have to have something to spread. His narrowness just does not put him in the greatest. Comparing Ronnie, Dorian and Phil..I'd give it to Dorian. Ronnies upper traps were just too big and it detracted from his lat spread.
@whitebelt2905
@whitebelt2905 4 жыл бұрын
Phil is too narrow to have the best lat spread
@chrisbats6072
@chrisbats6072 4 жыл бұрын
Phil Heath 1st
@Pablo-sr2zx
@Pablo-sr2zx 4 жыл бұрын
Without watching to the end which I will Dorian Yates no1
@bastianmaoro8278
@bastianmaoro8278 Жыл бұрын
Zane's worst pose.
@MohammedAlfaleh
@MohammedAlfaleh 4 жыл бұрын
You forget Brandon curry ..
@briz1sttime210
@briz1sttime210 4 жыл бұрын
Phil is smaller than Yates, BULLSHIT!!! Many guys you passed killed Yates, he doesn't deserve to be on that list at the end
@travelreview5962
@travelreview5962 3 жыл бұрын
Did you say...Dorian Yates... doesn't belong... in a video listing some of the best lat spreads... of all time? Do you mind if I screen shot this please? No one is going to believe that was said unless I have proof.
@yeeted466
@yeeted466 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Freeman best version versus Flex Wheeler best version
@brunocontiero5310
@brunocontiero5310 4 жыл бұрын
What about Samir Bannout?
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