The Reason Halo 5 Has Such Strange Armor

[@AscendHyperion]

The music in the last minute might be loud on some devices. Sorry about that! Come complain on my Discord: discord.com/invite/2fDjeYs

[@midkn1ght231]

it feels like were at a party and your going in depth into halo 5s armor while the music is blasting lol

[@stephenchant8245]

It was actually micrograms actions which mass produced underwhelming armour. Lore is an after thought like why the elites look different. Halo reach didn't have microtransaction and yet in the lore many different companies made their armour. Microtransaction was the biggest factor in this as they could add less halo looking armours and also restrict the good looking more memorable halo reach and 3 armours behind pay walls like the memories of reach pack for example where you pay a hefty sum to get very little but it's halo reach so of course the fans will get it. A cash grab for 343. One I hope they'll learn to stop doing

[@javannapoli2018]

The musics volume at the end made it sound like you were trying to rap lmao.

[@ClassMRule]

ill complain right here thank you very much

[@RapidActionAnimations]

For me my favourite armours are the halo reach ones :)

[@J37-q4s]

And if we’re being completely honest the main reason why there are so many armor sets was so 343 had something to fill the Req Packs with so they could make some good money selling them.

[@roosty2266]

Also as well less overall customization. imagine if you could customize shoulder legs etc. bit had to get it ALL from req packs. 343 or Microsoft proly limited it helmet and armor

[@wolfdragox5563]

@@roosty2266 the more limited customization was a result of struggles in development, have you ever wonder why H4 doesn’t have full armor sets and plenty of armor only has the chest, shoulders and helmet? Well it wasn’t lack of creativity, was a result of extremely short time to develop such ambitious game, In H5 was even worse due to huge last minute changes, bad engine, new hardware, etc., people tend to believe many of the issues in H4/5 were result of incompetence from 343, or with evil intentions, but nobody bothers to tries to see it from their perspective, the task wasn’t easy

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

It was either that or make map packs that split up the player base again.

[@Bucket_Buffoon]

@@TheCrimsonElite666 I'd rather a split playerbase with no Microtransactions, while we keep split-screen, and good design so I can at least enjoy it with buddies, over what we got in Halo 5, which was an Early Access game being sold as a full game with Loot Boxes on top of that.

[@Freelancer837]

Just like why we get so much useless nameplates in MCC now, they need something to pad the battlepasses

[@johnpaladin1533]

Can we talk about the fact there Spartan armor design to counter the Flood? I remember in Halo 5 a green-ish helmet visor had a lore tab that basically said IF a Spartan was infect their head would *ahem* controlled explosion. Ideally to prevent the flood from having high level military knowledge.

[@moistvibes5697]

I knew there were armor meant to combat and like you said counter flood but I didn't know there head would explode because of there visor, that's pretty interesting

[@silverbloodborne9495]

@@moistvibes5697 he ment as green for it's befult colors

[@apexfenix9623]

Yeahhhh i mean its what id want, were spartans. Cant let those monsters know what we know

[@kaijukiller9315]

" The CORRUPTER cryptonym indicates that a Spartan was infected by the Flood, that safeguards have failed, and weapons of mass destruction have been authorized for use. Spartans who are not assigned to Flood containment Fireteams are ordered to uphold Emergency Contact Protocol Upsilon, and withdraw to a security perimeter. CORRUPTER dictates that containment is priority and immediate bombardment of the area with Magnetic Accelerator Cannons and fusion warheads" Halo: Official Spartan Field Manual, PART 09: ALIEN FACTIONS, The Flood (p. 175)

[@nobbieslicks2237]

@@kaijukiller9315 I wonder if that's ever actually happened at any point

[@SockEater4293]

My recommendation: If you outsource your armor to another developer, look over it. Tell them what they should and should not do and how it should look. We don't want another situation where they mess up Mark 5 B.

[@UltraEgoMc]

True but its not a big deal as people make it to be.

[@SockEater4293]

@@UltraEgoMc Not looking over 3rd parties who work on your stuff? That is incredibly important. What if a new Mario game came out, and it was not like anything we've seen from Mario and it lacked the cartoony look of Mario and instead look like a man in a plumber's uniform where the goal is to plunge toilets for a living? I don't care if you would want to play that game, it's not Mario as he was established. There is a certain point when you need to look over the third parties and see if they butchered it or not, give them recommendations and maybe even get one guy over to that studio to help them establish what they're creating. It's not just a helmet, it's a helmet from Halo, and if have no clue in terms of how it should look, get help from the first party studio.

[@Wylie288]

@@SockEater4293 Fuck graphics. Gameplay is all that matters

[@PowerArmorV113]

@@Wylie288 They may not matter, but you still have to look at them...and that will always cause biases.

[@Borgron]

@@Wylie288 graphics don’t matter, but art style does. Especially if has been established in previous entries.

[@legendarymasterchief7620]

I still think one of the coolest parts of the H5 armor lore is the few armors no one knows who made, yet decided to use it anyway

[@Shahmane666]

Black market armor with possibly illegal and unknown tech?.... Yea lets use it

[@J0J0Reference]

My guy Buccaneer really do be made with off-the-shelf parts.

[@BrSgtJordan]

Buccaneer was almost certainly made by insurrectionists, since rogue Spartans like Ilsa Zane exist. Shinobi is the really interesting one, since it's a fully custom and black-boxed design

[@buklau837]

It’s like people buying things from Wish

[@J0J0Reference]

@@buklau837 good lord the Halo Universe equivalent of Wish would be hilarious. I can already see the bootleg Master Chief shirts and the Sangheili dildos.

[@LungoScrungo]

So this means that canonically, armors like seeker may not physically exist but are instead someone's f*ed up digital brainchild of a spartan armor set, and that's a relief.

[@KSword007]

Everybody on the art team wanted to make their own "tacti-cool" armor their own way. (That's my take and not a fact)

[@Gat720Dua]

That seems to be the case, everyone got their own unique vision for something.

[@spartanK42]

It would be fine if they were starting their own franchise. But they were continuing an existing franchise with an existing visual style and the designs they did didn't quite work.

[@mrporbig]

coop772 moment

[@mercury2157]

@@spartanK42 I mean they still brought back a lot of armor from older games and based blue team off their preexisting designs so I don't see much of a problem

[@spartanK42]

@@mercury2157 yeah I was talking more of when Halo 4 came out. I know they were trying to make their own take on Halo but in the process I think they deviated too much from the established visuals of the franchise.

[@LAJay101]

HOLY SHIT HYPERION, The outro song was hella loud, louder than your voice

[@AscendHyperion]

Bruh I know, and I didnt catch it till I was doing the timestamps after it was fully uploaded and ready to go. I must have bumped the volume up right before I went to render :(

[@LAJay101]

@@AscendHyperion that was one of those moments where the band started playing you out during your acceptance speech.

[@alexsantimano6443]

Could be much worse, like those clickbait family guy vids which are quiet as a manatee, but have an outro like an exploding car

[@SR-wz2iv]

What am I missing? Intro seems much louder

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@SR-wz2iv not when he's speaking tho

[@sodium7127]

I find it hilarious how 343 industries is an actual company in Halo lore.

[@wolfdragox5563]

Tbh I could see Bungie making the same thing if they were still in charge of the franchise

[@shark_vii]

Bungie existed in Halo 2 as BMW (Bungie Motor Works) iirc

[@jackcolson4745]

The hellcat is my fav armor exclusively from halo 5. It's basically ancient human armor.

[@DaMasta981]

Same dude

[@Brandelwyn]

Its an interesting one, to be sure

[@ZenithTech35]

Yeah, I think the lore on it is straight up they found a crashed ancient human ship containing this armor which was the basis for it. And that "it's completely alien, yet strangely familiar" if I remember correctly

[@GhostPotato268]

And it's shape would even fit in Halo Infinite's artstyle so I hope we will be able to use it once more

[@jackcolson4745]

@@GhostPotato268 Unfortunately with the whole new 'armor core' setting, it looks like there won't be nearly as many types as halo 4 and 5. Unfortunately 343 are putting emphasis on what you put on top of the armor and not the armor itself. Not that that is a bad thing, it's the fact that halo Infinite is the last halo title for the foreseeable future and thus should combine both Reach and 4's style of customization.

[@mattd5857]

Interesting, the lore reflects the reality of H5 armor development. The lore explanation is kind of curious though, it seems risky from a strategic point of view, by opening up Mjolnir armor development to third party companies the UNSC by course made the specs of Gen 2 Mjolnir public knowledge. Seems that'd make it relatively easy for private groups or civilians to get their hands on functioning power armor. Are the next wave of insurrectionists going to be decked out in pirated power armor?

[@AscendHyperion]

Funny enough, the flavor text of some of the armor hints at this issues. Certain armors are virtually illegal and pose massive privacy breaches. The Buccaneer armor is assumed stolen, the Olive helmet is the product of a rogue programmer, and they dont even know who made the Shinobi armor. Wild west of spartan armor

[@unknownpack5717]

I don't think such variations in armour is smart from a strategic standpoint. Why not just use one standardized armour set that is modular in design to add attachments and what not. Why would the UNSC want such variations? Why can't they just make it a compeition for best design and contract them to produce in mass?

[@AscendHyperion]

Well, in a way what youre talking about is what is called the GEN II Platform, which is the, let's call it "Operating System" that is used for spartan armor. Essentially, a contractor takes the GEN II platform and builds a specification onto it, in order to achieve a highly focused product that would have been impossible in GEN I. Now there are armor sets from Halo 5 that aim to do exactly what you mention. Marauder for example makes improvements on the GEN II platform but are intended to be more modular. Some GEN II armor is mass-produced, like Recruit and Warrior.

[@alexfrost2799]

@@unknownpack5717 variation makes more sense when it comes to Specialization for specific tasks. As a result, Spartans now have sets of armor that are better at certain tasks (EVA, EOD, underwater, tracking, long-distance observation, etc.). Yeah, Spartans should be a jack-of-all trades soldier in theory. In reality, though, Spartans are beefed-up and modified humans, who are already not the same and have different strengths and weaknesses. No amount of modification to a current set will be as good as a set dedicated to a specific task. Take the difference between the M4A1 and Barrett M107. Sure, you can _try_ to modify the M4 to be as similar in function as the M107, but at that point it is practically a different weapon altogether. Same principle goes with the MJOLNIR Gen II armor

[@tristanbackup2536]

It's a gamble the UNSC/UEG was willing to take politically. They needed more assets after losing everything in the war, they had no choice to go public with everything for in return get needed assets. It's no different than the real world, an example is the nuclear weapons program, the US was hesitant at first, but gave in to the friendly nations to keep the balance of power against the Soviets during the cold war, for that, information is freely public how to make dirty bombs & nukes, if a terrorist organization has to will & means, they WILL do it. So far, Governments around the world are working around the clock to make sure material assets & the weapons themselves don't fall into the wrong hands, it's only a matter of time really for cracks in security for someone to make one or obtain one.

[@friendlyneighborhoodspaceman]

Lethbridge Industrial Made the my favorite armor wetwork

[@whatzittooyah3244]

Helioskrill fan vs wetwork enjoyer

[@ObsidionshadowX]

Man if only this type of information and presentation was how they handled all of it in the first place, I think it would have been a lot more well received.

[@frank-b6169]

If halo 4 and halo 5 had Spartans with a all black under-suit and crotch armor, then they wouldn’t look as bad.

[@Brandelwyn]

Nah, crotch armor wont help

[@frank-b6169]

@@Brandelwyn maybe a few, but not all.

[@sirentity465]

I actually like the colored undersuits but i agree the crotch makes Spartans look weird

[@frank-b6169]

@@sirentity465 do what you do spartan,God bless.

[@odinulveson9101]

Crotch armor is a must. Vital part of body even if the sexdrive isnt there unless spartans take a few drugs to revert it. Also you dont want to land unto a mongoose seat etc from high altitude with your underneats crushed. Or having a brute kick you there. Might not totally negate the force but better than just suitpadding!

[@pvtspartan]

There isn't enough spartans to make the armor variations make sense lol

[@LateNightHalo]

The truth: nobody in the art department said “stop” ;P Interestingly, a lot of the uglier armor sets were outsourced.

[@fortherepublic1263]

In lore: Outsourced IRL: Outsourced Hotel? Trivago

[@milkmonstrosity]

The Vector helmet is Monsoon's helmet, change my mind.

[@cxvghf93387u]

MEMES

[@projectsinclair]

Thats why I used it till I got the ODST one

[@urieloxv.2164]

Your memes ends here jack

[@fojisan2398]

THE MEMES, JACK!

[@Shahmane666]

Even tho they made some shitty looking armor, they had a good amount of really cool and creative ones. Shinobi is by far one of my favorite armors in the game and probably in the whole franchise, I hope they bring it back in Infinite

[@Jormyyy]

Oh wow I haven't seen that one. I like the teishen and raijin ones more but the samurai helmet is still cool.

[@bullymaguire4640]

Shinobi looks like a fucking power ranger. That’s what’s wrong with Halo 5’s armors. They are too advanced looking and super futuristic and much less military and basic than halo should be

[@Jormyyy]

@@bullymaguire4640 that's what makes some of the Halo 5 armor so cool to me tbh. Plus there's plenty of cool sets that folks just forget about, like Warmaster or Recluse (my personal favorites). 343 also has the best versions of EOD, Scout, and Security.

[@BlueBlur2003]

I don't think they made that armor thinking it was actually good. I'm pretty sure Microsoft forced to put that garbage in there so it's harder for players to get the armor they actually want from REQ packs.

[@joelcomer]

They have what looks like a cooler version

[@dextergrif1052]

I actually don’t mind any of the weirder armor sets as long as we get the classics. Give me original Mark VI so I can look like Grif and I’m good. Mark VI was of course made by Materials Group.

[@stormycd392]

True, but I want *new* sets of armor that look equally as cool too. Because after a certain point it would feel like we’re just getting the same content and Ideas over and over again. I don’t mind the noisier armor there for the sake of variety as long as they don’t look too bad. But If we personally have no desire to touch any new armor outside of a handful, and always find ourselves wearing old sets, what is there left for us? Half of these armor sets look like disposable soulless, cannon fodder enemies from a generic sci-fi game, and others look like actual robots from the helmet alone.

[@LastManFilmsUS]

Needed a bunch or crap armors to make the good armor more valuable and harder to unlock

[@CoyoteRecon]

The only thing I like about majority of the armor in halo 5 is how many sets there are. But they’re all disgusting with a few exceptions.

[@kodredcud]

@@CoyoteRecon the few exceptions being the old armors.

[@mauz791]

And there was no way to unlock only the ones you want, so it would boost REQ pack sales 😐

[@SpeedAnarchy]

I’m pretty sure they will do that to pad out the multiplayer unlockables

[@LastManFilmsUS]

@@SpeedAnarchy that's why they made colors unlockable items for infinite

[@henryalberts539]

I'd also say there's a couple other issues going unmentioned. Number one is that, no matter the rose-tinted glasses, there were some not-great looking armors in 3/Reach. For example, I personally think Halo 3 Scout looks really squashed compared to the two later iterations of the armor, and as much as everyone loves Hayabusa, its shoulder pieces do struggle to match with any others. Similarly, I think Reach ruined EVA from its H3 incarnation, and I've never been fond of Commando's helmet. Hand-in-hand with those statements is number two: personal preference and execution of ideas. Legionnaire is actually a really cool, logical way to take an armor given the Roman influence behind the UNSC. It makes sense they'd base an armor off Roman Legionnaires! But because it's so unique, it comes across as strange. Finally... there really is a cherrypicking problem. People complain about all the bad armors, but there really is not enough love for the good ones. Helioskrill's the big one, but there are plenty of less notable armors that look fine! And honestly, I'd go as far to say there've been some armors improved in H5 - up until Reach PC came out with its improved graphical quality, I was of the opinion that the Legacies of Reach armors (Vigilant, Indomitable, Wrath, and Intruder) looked a lot better than legacy NOBLE team.

[@reachingnoblenoble8493]

I agree with quite a bit of what you said, although, some of my personal tastes differ, I would like to mention that I think one of main problems, at least for me is that even a lot of the armors that are less wild or even likeable, are still cluttered with useless details and are simply very different style wise than what had been established in other games and even brought back as legacy armor. I know that sequel must being change, and in game time goes on, but the jump was really drastic. Also, I know the general art style differences between the Bungie and 343 games is a topic of it own but I think it's valid as this falls under style.

[@deltahalo241]

I never liked Reach's security helmet, however when it was brought back in Halo 5, I actually liked it a lot more, along with the Grenadier/Indomitable helmet.

[@relevant3773]

Argus (Linda-058's official armor) is my favorite set in the entire franchise so far. Unlike any other armors before, it was designed specifically for extreme precision shooting. Sucks that I never got to use it due to H5's shitty RNG system

[@awashgaming2571]

Vestol Corporation's Viper Class is probably my favorite from H5.

[@dethragm2171]

2:00 oh hell nah this armor is awesome

[@rookie4582]

Uh.......okay 😶

[@tiger_lord305]

The Helmet is definitely cool and has potential. I could see it getting a little simplified (like smoothing out the top and cleaning up little details that don’t matter) and adding it to Infinite. Kind of gives me Killzone vibes mixed with Aviator.

[@theoutcastvirus2792]

Yeah I thought that too lol

[@llIIIIlllIlIlIlIll]

Looks like carmines helmet from gears of war

[@wolfdragox5563]

The armor looks cool, the helmet...it could use some improvements...

[@ryanmcfarlin7984]

The lore explanation for the armor is kinda cool. Wish they made that more known. Hopefully they keep that for Infinite.

[@Blockistium]

I've never been fond of a "lore first, design later" philosophy of direction. Art should not be constrained by ever-complicating shackles of lore. That's why I liked Reach.

[@notgray88]

Or else you end up with the mess of lore that is Warhammer 40k

[@HazopGaze]

Sadly, HAZOP armor doesn't exist in Halo 5. It's Gen-2 variant does exist, however, and it's produced by Acheron Security. That said, I much prefer the design produced by the Materials Group, which was last seen in Reach.

[@RapidActionAnimations]

That’s a really good explanation and makes me see more to those armours.

[@donaldnewhauser4529]

I think that the variety is nice. There is usually something for everyone, and people have different tastes. Some people also dont think for themselves and jump on the bandwagon, hating whatever someone else likes or doesnt like just because they heard another talk about it, with no real analysis from themselves. And some people just have regardless. For me, it's gotten to the point where I genuinely like seeker. Is it my favorite armor? No, but I think it's sort of cool. The armor itself adds to the undersuit which i cant recall another armor in halo 5 doing that. The helmet is loud and so unique, its grown on me. Some of the paint jobs could be better, but it's not overly disgusting. However, it certainly does not come close to anything before it, and this I can see why people disapprove from an art style perspective

[@darthvega3]

My issue (besides the bad designs, as I can admit some of the armors are ok) is the fact that the body of the armors are complete sets. I like the ability to choose each part of the armors like reach and 4

[@donaldnewhauser4529]

@@darthvega3 and that is a fair argument. I think most would prefer that too. It would definitely improve the situation and maybe have prevented it to a degree

[@largeasbrontasauras5019]

I mostly rock seeker now (with brown and pink to look as ugly as possible) so that when I win FFA, everyone else has to watch an ugly ass seeker set staunch them and come to terms with their life choices that led to this. I genuinely do hope that seeker somehow makes it into infinite though - even just as an Easter egg. Like you, it's grown on me over time.

[@slendy0971]

It's amazing how this channel makes you think and question your biased opinions

[@joutynathan4168]

One more reason : make a lot of trash common / rare armors, and some really cool epic /legendary armors, so players can keep oppening req packs for a while

[@kabardino1337]

🤣

[@StatisticColt]

Honestly I like to think that the unsc was so bankrupt after the war that they couldn’t afford to make a lot of the armour themselves so they got other companies to do it

[@alexfrost2799]

That's another pretty good explanation too imo

[@tristanbackup2536]

Yep. In-lore it was a gamble political decision made by the UEG. No different that the real world when it comes to technology.

[@cryptic7791]

Wow this does make me appreciate halo 5s armor more but I’m happy Infinite is returning to a simpler more practical style

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

The main problem I see with Halo 4/5 armor is that they don't fit the mjolnir theme, they look more like power rangers with armor plating slapped on. I see a lot of armors that could totally look awesome, but the foundational design of there being more emphasis on the undersuit rather that the plating really nerfs the style points for them. I am glad that 343 is rolling back to what I consider a mix of Reach and 3. I hope they bring back some of the better looking armors from 4 and 5 but in Infinite's style where they can really shine.

[@richterbelmont2544]

Been rocking Buccaneer Ilyri helmet ever since I unlocked it. Loved the amount of armor sets we got in Halo 5.

[@molten_bread]

Vector was actually already my favorite armor

[@AscendHyperion]

*Thanos nodding on his porch .gif*

[@ToaDrakua]

In H5 I wear ATLAS with a Scout Helmet, so I don’t know who in the Halo universe would have designed it.

[@silver69115]

"If you wanna know who made your armor..." Me:*uses Shinobi Heartless*

[@GhostRat__]

I wouldn't doubt the outsourcing was done on purpose to make the lore more realistic

[@fase1doughnut]

I would doubt that heavily. Lore is always made to fit the game, not the other way around. It’s a good way to explain away faults or any decision made by the developer

[@toofastnobrakes]

Wow, I actually learned something new about halo today! This really Phelps my sanity when I comes to explain halo 5s armor choices. This was much needed clarity 👍

[@AscendHyperion]

Hey happy to hear it :)

[@half_mexican4071]

Earliest I've been to an upload sick

[@AscendHyperion]

Me too

[@1x1boop28]

Now I absolutely love the halo 5 armor. This is not something I though I would ever put in a KZbin comment. I guess its easy to hate that you don't understand.

[@unscstormtrooper8964]

So basically the outsourcers have worsened the look of the armours but 343 took all the blame. I still dislike most of the armours though it's not all 343's fault

[@garretthass390]

ONI's Materials Group makes my favorite Halo 5 armor: Scout. Also, great video! I would like to point out that in your list of non-UNSC contractors, you included Watershed Division. They're actually part of ONI, and they've made things like the Spartan-IIIs' SPI armor during the war.

[@elijahwatson3474]

Oh that why they made the Hunter armor. Also make for former ONI agents to wear it

[@Xx3dviolencexX]

A elite artisan made my favorite H5 armor ;)

[@knightdrachne]

Nothing beats the good old fashioned materials group when it comes to spartan armor

[@noahpettibon]

Hellcat (not the helmet). Not enough love.

[@AscendHyperion]

I found out (while actually researching for this video) that Hellcat was actually a charity collaboration. A fan got to collaborate with 343 on the design. Sweet story.

[@bookerdewitt4811]

@@AscendHyperion that's super cool, can we get a OMH on it?

[@RoseSupreme]

Yeah, gonna have to dislike for that Among Us reference there.

[@ls200076]

So Halo 5 went a bit overboard mirroring real life in terms of weapon/armour/equipment manufacturers.

[@tristanbackup2536]

Yep. I knew this from day one from Halo 4. Just common sense that's not so common anymore, people aren't thinking deeper. It's like getting Russian weapon manufacturers making stuff for the US or my country Australia, you're gonna see inconsistence visual design between military assets.

[@playaplays57]

Recon helmet (GEN1)- Materials Group Nightfall- Cascade Stronghold Technology

[@dragontamer1012]

Honestly I really like HELLCAT armour and that was technically made by ancient humanity and then repurposed for the MJOLNIR format Beyond that I really like the Scanner armour as well.

[@solemnpenance8134]

Right now I'm into the CQB helmet in reach, which was manufactured by the german company Beweglichkeitsrüstungsysteme. Ah, I love germans.

[@scarehalo5]

Personally Id actually appreciate reach and 5's customization, but in the style of the classic games. (In Halo Infinite) I get that 4 and 5 have a bad rep, personally I don't like 4 or 5 as much, as well. But you have to appreciate that 343 gave us many customization options for Halo 5. It doesn't make up for the micro transactions, but then and again, it's just what I'm stating.

[@ChrisSpartan-157]

I hadn't seen this video until now but I'm glad I found it, I also love learning about the little details of lore that they put in the games. and answering the final question, my favorite armor was Enforcer by Imbrium Machine Complex

[@Valrok1870]

Lethbridge for War Master and I believe UNSC for Reaper (Mortician variant) What can I say? The white accents in Team Based multiplayer makes it so very pleasing to the eye. Glacier visor or the Midnight makes the helmet really sinister to look at

[@ROOokie6]

I wanted knight based armor, not exactly the Achilles armor but more like For Honor, just think of the possibilities, instead of creating armor from pure imagination, why don't we use inspiration from time itself. Then modify it already existing form to create something new, yes I can see how that could be a problem for many reasons, lack of raw material, lack of said imagination and creativity in the design. But, if done correctly could be game changing for both the game itself and the players, just think of the amount of people doing castle wars in knight armor or watching people sword duel in samurai armor, (yes I know there is the Shinobi armor and the raider helmet in h5) but the amount of creativity coming from the community alone would be both crazy and full of style.

[@LightCrib2]

7:13 - 7:23 Damn bro spittin fire

[@RedCrusader-ph2vk]

I'm hoping there was an in-universe backlash among Spartan-IVs over how bad some of the designs were.

[@MrAvakstone92]

The only backlash is registered on GEN2 armors was the fact there was little improvement in general over GEN1 armors

[@The.Frumious.Bandersnatch]

I used to work for a place called Lethbridge Industrial in Lethbridge Alberta Canada. So I rock the Anubis.

[@mrpancake8889]

Chalybs Defense Solutions gang Also awesome video this gives me an entirely new appreciation of Halo 5 armors, even if I don’t personally like a lot of them. Cant forgive the req system and the way the armor fed into that tho

[@ZenithTech35]

I get that 343i didn't have total control over the creation of the different armors, but they're the ones who set the framework in the form of the artstyle. Not to mention they're completely capable of performing quality control before implementation. Many of the designs were straight up trash honestly, and the fact they didn't give any of them the boot prior to release is entirely their fault. And the addition of the different manufacturers into the lore was put in place to justify said lack of quality control. Let's just acknowledge that there were many bad, non-halo designs through and through and not let them get away with doing in again, if they do

[@JohnnyBoy-wi4kn]

War Master is my favorite. Not only does it look cool but the lore is crazy! It's based around promethian Solider AI that has traces of the original AI code in it that causes the Spartan to be more aggressive to the point of bloodlust and even permanent insanity

[@kilooperator1022]

Good video man. Too much blame is placed on 343. A company that is actually good at making games. Yet the outcome isnt always the best and its not all their fault.

[@alecrizer4222]

I haven't played halo 5 but my favorite sets are from reach and 4 with the gungnir armor set. It just looks cool to me.

[@AUT0B0T117]

Even though the Foehammer helmet sucks, the suit for it is cool. I like using the Foehammer Echo with one of the Hellcat helmets

[@altairgame]

Isn't also by the fact that after the human-covenant war the elites shared knowledge about their tech and thus humanity had more freedom to make more "less practical looking or alien/complex like" designs?

[@AscendHyperion]

Yeah some of the armors, like Helioskrill and Vector, are made using Sangheli assistance. But those are basically all non-mass produced as well

[@Juanhernandez-zx7kt]

I like how people are realizing that game development is becoming really complex a requires hundreds of people to complete and outsourcing to get it complete.

[@sircommissar]

As much as I dislike halo 5's style I also hate that now 343 is hiding their new sets for infinite like the new anubis looks amazing and I want to see the infinite version of alot of the halo 5 armors, but no all were getting is some nostalgic circlejerk reach armor that would be no different if they like just gave a list of reach armors and we can see them right now already in reach. I want to see stuff like the one set with the heavy bevor we saw with the December inside infinite.

[@nathanhunt8078]

I just have to say, the quality of content your producing is impressive. I hope you continue to grow so more people can see this.

[@Dan-1031]

Sorry but all that does not excuse the shit armor. Outsourcing shouldn’t have even been done with a core halo thing, that’s like handing over your car to a stranger

[@tristanskywalker1998]

I really hope the Warrior set returns in Infinite. It's my favorite 343 original armor design.

[@Meentanker]

Its kinda unfair because everyone has different tastes, I love Gungnir hell I have a tattoo of it on my Arm

[@heyitsharry]

i mean, reach did lore-based armour options well before hand, so halo 5 didn’t really do anything new on that regard

[@jadoaesra3011]

I do believe you might have put more thought into this than the people in charge of quality control. Props to you.

[@BansheeHallow]

I actually like Anubis helmet from Halo 5, one of the best Ive seen in the series.

[@hannibalrekruit]

Hannibal Weapon Systems made Recruit :)

[@caboosedestroyerofworlds29]

Watershed Division for the Spartan Locke armor. Also am I the only one who thinks Locke’s armor is cool af?

[@AscendHyperion]

Watershed logo is so freaking cool

[@elijahwatson3474]

No it good, have a nice lean look like how most hunters hunter are. Good contrast to Master Chief big and strong soldier look.

[@MrAvakstone92]

Watershed Division also manufactured Centurion, Hermes, Argus, Copperhead, and Hoplite (H2A) armors

[@dextergrif1052]

I actually like the Foehammer helmet…

[@ToaDrakua]

That forehead though.

[@Billsmartpig]

Kolaar Manufactorum, The group that made Helioskrill. The concept of multiple different groups creating their own stylized armor is cool, but it didn't work for two reasons. 1. The armor was randomly earned (For the most part) through loot boxes. 2. The armor came in two pieces, Helmet and Body, unlike the Halo Games directly prior. If we had the same control over the body pieces in Halo 5 as we did in Halo 4, Halo 5 would still get slammed for Micro-Transactions, but people likely wouldn't have cared so much about the "Stranger" armor sets in the game.

[@elijahwatson3474]

That more of 5 gameplay thing. It have stated in lore Spartans still mix and match different styles.

[@o_o-037]

If I Ever make my own game franchise, I'd best hire actual fans of my franchise to design armour for the sequels rather than a team who don't give two shits.

[@silverstarofsootclan7507]

I'll be honest, some of Halo 5's armors weren't amazing, but I would argue that there's definitely way more good (or at least decent) than bad armor in halo 5

[@whoawaitimalpharius700]

Recluse variant, black and green with pattern in gold.

[@Confidently.Clueless]

Me: *Watches video, nods approvingly* Also Me: “But they still look like shit”

[@maplemayhem1988]

So basically the in universe and out of universe reasons are the exact same

[@Vidy4.]

Props to Seeker for beeing that bad i want it in every halo now

[@marcusbullock2753]

I’m just curious how the Hayabusa was made. That was my favorite armor.

[@mercury2157]

Someone who makes MJOLNIR armor played a several hundred year old Ninja Gaiden and said "this dude looks cool as fuck, let's make his armor real"

[@noblexperia5124]

Plot twist, the entire halo 5 campaign was a war games simulation 😳

[@BiomechanicalBrick]

Beweglichkeitsrustungsysteme made the CQB babyyyy yes i typed this myself

[@AscendHyperion]

Chad moment

[@max585t]

lmao the military industrial complex is Halo canon

[@MrBucket9158]

EARLY GANG RISE UP!

[@devin98dude]

Materials Group, MK IV baby!

[@ginozeus2579]

Very informative and well done video👏👏👏🤓😎

[@bruhcity2533]

Materials Group made EVA GEN2 so that’s definitely my favorite, Lethbridge is pretty dope too

[@ApolloCalrissian]

6:20 Horseshit. 343 have the final say so on what gets included in the final product. Yet another shill video.

[@roosty2266]

Remember Microsoft also has say. They likely told 343 to expand the range of armors to get from req packs

[@kylereese811]

Seeker is the worst armor ever designed Change my mind

[@grindcoreninja6527]

There has been armor lore since Halo 3.

[@Onxide]

Hellcat is definitely my fav

[@beartales1427]

Holy shit this.. Makes sense!

[@skirmisher1901]

A very interesting video, thank you