The Reason I'm Excited for Patch 7.1 in FFXIV

[@gracesalay4834]

I still can't believe the dev team saw Amon (Savage) and went, "hold on, he might be onto something..."

[@iantaakalla8180]

Truly, the marvels of Syrcus were but playthings; in terms of story (Amon is a clone of Fandaniel/sundered Hermes who created Meteion), in terms of call-backs (Shadowbringers premise is basically the implied backstory of FF3 Warrior of Darkness), and now in terms of alliance raid content with chaotic raids:l.

[@Wishmaster787]

@@iantaakalla8180 Will you live to see the end?

[@iantaakalla8180]

From chaotic skies fall tears of frustration… All shall burn!

[@lumeiruart]

chaotic alliance sounds like a perfect mix of tomfoolery and an actual deathmatch and i am in for it

[@propagate8619]

I'd rather have a full savage 24-man raid rather than just a single boss but at least its something. Hopefully the mechanics won't be super strict body checks.

[@Nihonguy]

It could very well happen one day yoshi p has basically stated theyre testing the waters with this on cloud of darkness, depending on feedback we might get more later

[@oEXTRA]

​@@Nihonguythis is what I was thinking and imo is the better route to take. It would definitely be way too much to launch this kind of content that's suppose to be midcore, with a full extreme/Savage level alliance raid (taking 20+ minutes to clear AFTER you know what to do). That would just scare off most potential newcomers instead of giving them a proper ladder to climb into Savage raiding.

[@dividedbyzero4]

yeah and if the concern is the length being too much to do in one sitting for a content that isnt meant to be as niche as BA/DRS that takes like an hour, they could always separate it to multiple floors just like 8 man savage, each with different rewards (or if uses token system, more tokens) for me ideally it's 5 floors (3 bosses + 2 "trash" but make it interesting like BA/DRS or criterion trash). Maybe have the 2 bosses be criterion boss length if it's too much to make 3 fully fleshed 9+ minutes encounter and 2 interesting trash packs.

[@SpacePirateFromSpace]

You should check out criterion dungeons. Having to do a bunch of different hard fights in a single lockout can be hell for prog

[@idowhatiwant3557]

@@Nihonguy Basically that statement says, we will get complaints and we will delete the content as per our usual process.

[@Corvus7159]

I want Mathbot (Chaotic) where we have to solve complex equations or wipe the whole raid.

[@Deode-d4h]

True, imagine having to solve geometry and trigonometry equations in 10 seconds or you wipe the raid. Also just to make it more of a pain, it has a pool of 100-200 unique equations it pulls from just so you can't cheese it easily with memorizable patterns and answers.

[@MyVanir]

@@Deode-d4h Static recruitment be like "LF Math Major, need at least Advanced Calculus 1 and 2 cleared".

[@SpacePirateFromSpace]

Solve this 3D chess puzzle or take 16 vuln stacks

[@SubduedRadical]

Solve this Ordinary Differential Equation: You have 10 seconds.

[@Nihonguy]

Chaotic alliance raid is gonna be an effing mess and im VERY much looking forward to it lol

[@TheMexRAGE]

For loot system: i am hoping it is something like, you get currency for rewards for your weekly clear, and also get currency for each player in the raid that havent cleared once and also that havent got their weekly clear too, so you are incentivice to keep running it with groups of people that haven't cleared once and even that week

[@TheZorkas]

i think that's generally a good idea, though the part where you get currency for playing with people that haven't cleared that week could be a bit frustrating, since it kind of forces you to clear early in the week. other than that, i like the idea.

[@NotTheWheel]

I don't think I'm gonna be able to get enough people for a Chaos Raid (Chaotic* Chaos sounds cooler) And Savage isn't really something you "Queue up for" - It feels more like content that was made with JP in mind since they do savage in their roulettes... but for everywhere else? Ehhh...

[@Lordwhizzkid]

Would just like to remind you that there is also the live letter digest which gives, while not a complete translation, a more official stance on what they want to actually have said. While I don't think there's much too different in this one, it's nice to have some more solid confirmations: "This new duty is designed for 24 players and will be close to Savage in difficulty. Since Chaotic alliance raids require a lot of resources to develop, we don’t have a release schedule for future iterations, like “one per patch” or “every other patch.” It’s a new endeavor for us, so if our players show interest in these Chaotic alliance raids, that’s when we’ll start planning a new one. For now, we hope you’ll enjoy the Cloud of Darkness (Chaotic)! Although we’ve called it an “alliance raid,” the duty features a boss battle with no enemy encounters along the way. We imagine our players have become quite familiar with the Cloud of Darkness through the normal alliance raid, but this Chaotic version has quite a few tricks up their sleeve. This Chaotic alliance raid will have unique rewards and a reward system that will be friendly for those looking to help others clear, as well as features to make matchmaking easier. Details will be announced alongside gameplay in the next Letter LIVE."

[@Nodnarb59]

That close to savage difficulty is gonna turn a lot of people away unfortunately.

[@slavkei]

Thunder God Chaotic: No boss mechanics. Instead, you have to listen to the entirety of his dialogue, which has been expanded to 12x the original amount of spoken dialogue. If you start to drift off to sleep or get bored, the entire raid wipes.

[@baronfuath5872]

Cidolfus reads you the bible translated to japanese (regardless of language settings) and then shows you his sword collection. (he doesn't cosplay. he just likes weapons.)

[@one_eyeddd473]

Sign me up

[@Crow-wv6if]

Yes please 🙏

[@SubduedRadical]

@@baronfuath5872 "A fine addition to my collection..."

[@xenorayy]

Thunder God is such peak I hope we get a chaotic version of him at some point

[@ehko9989]

For streamers and content creators in general, Chaotic raids will be fun for sure. For the rest of us folks, I fear it'll end up like DRS and BA and be relegated to discord-exclusive content. The supposedly repeatable nature of it, which I'm not going to praise before I see the actual reward structure, might help keep the content alive for longer but only time will tell. I just don't see hard 24-man content being pf compatible for more than a week or so, I just hope the actual release proves me wrong.

[@shawnscouten5184]

That’s not really that bad of a state though in my opinion. BA and DRS get run almost daily, and pretty much anyone is free to join. Better than criterion at least, where no pfs fill, and no discord can even be bothered to host.

[@ryanrem]

Hopefully they do a loot system like Unreal, where you can get currency to spend on a multitude of different rewards. Also, while I know they won't give us Thunder God Cid (Do it Ozma, Im ready), Ultima the High Seraph and Diabolos are gonna be really cool.

[@medivh1035]

They better cap salted Earth to 5 targets in 7.1 pvp change

[@The-Nomad1]

Thunder god chaotic would be so good

[@tangentkatz]

So....one of the main complaints of EW was not having enough content between super easy normal and savage difficulty. And instead of getting an extreme level alliance raid, they made it 3rd floor savage difficulty. In the same patch as an ultimate coming out. Cool

[@lecrab8090]

Clueless devs are hellbent in ensuring midcore content never happens

[@Nazuiko]

Dude World of Warcraft xDDD Good thing there's no other MMOs ever for the devs to take note of and improve their game.

[@runasth]

This is a new content that they're testing out, so it's normal that they'd keep it simple with a single encounter for now. Later on, they might enhance it to be a full alliance raid with the usual 2 trash mobs and 4 bosses.

[@Brian-fh8pq]

4:34 dont underestimate how popular twitter still is in jp lol

[@ChrisKatsu-]

You expect too many rewards. It’ll be a face accessory, parasol and maybe a glam piece if we’re lucky.

[@TheGreatDanish]

Assuming there's good rewards in ff14 is just stupid lol. They've done a fantastic job of sanding down everything to a hyper streamlined slop.

[@Nazuiko]

We'll get a title no one cares about like "Chaos of Darkness" and a weapon glam that glows.

[@Ahlivianne]

I even kinda want a chaotic Her Inflorescence if they can swing it. I envision 2 spawning and doing the building throwing and also the Hansel and Gretel lance/shield while the red girls do the tug across the map and their clones are tossing around those AoEs

[@taichou9475]

idk man if the loot system is shit then its just gonna die like Criterion Dungeons. it would only be fun if its full alliance raids rather than just 1 boss fight.

[@TheDoddler]

A good example of content that they designed as repeatable is Fetes in the Ishgard Restoration. Boxes with mounts, bardings, minions, funishings, emotes, hairstyles, glamours... most of it isn't unique to fetes (though there's a unique mount/emote, and glam) but it's a good way to get them, and tokens to guarantee specific rewards after a certain number of runs. Dyes for tokens also make it at least somewhat profitable forever. I'm at least expecting some kind of first time bonus, or rewards scaling with new players.

[@ZukiraPhaera]

It is always a trip when you find out one or more of a game's devs view your content, or have them seek you out for input.

[@AwkwardThursdays]

One thing that makes me excited from this is they don't just need to use alliance raid bosses. This is the perfect content to make any one off boss that doesn't fit into a whole series.

[@iantaakalla8180]

You know what would be cool? Chaotic Lakshmi. Imagine more people controlling the size of the area you are in, more Vril to fight over, more back and forth between adds that may have Vril, more people hitting you when Lakshmi does that thing that confuses you. Chaotic Ultima, The High Seraph would also be cool. Then she could use all of the shown Espers in the raid instead of three and Yiazmat and the dodging time would shoot way up.

[@ThirtyfourEC]

I wanna marry cloud of darkness

[@m0nad0_b0y]

thought of this at your mention of a possible Chaotic Thunder God, would love to see that and have him get helped by Agrias and Mustadio as well. They were comrades in FF Tactics after all, only natural for them to have some joint attacks, and man would I love to see that synergy play out in a raid fight!

[@digitalatom6433]

Having the full Alliance raid fully fleshed out in savage mode, so all bosses, would be cool. However, I understand that because most of these contain some 4 bosses per raid, and then there's 12 total for the whole series, doing them all would take too long. You see that in Ultimate too, which is notorious for taking a long time to clear (even if you already have cleared it before, they're like 1h fights in some cases) where they try to put a whole raid series into 1, so I know that'd make a big barrier for players to enter. Even more when you consider that this is 24-man content. Organizing that is a lot harder than organizing an 8-man team, and yeah, PF can try and wing this, but... well it's already bad in savage content. Imagine the chances of 1 person F***ing up a mechanic wiping the whole raid now being tripled. So for statics to do this, you'd need to have 3 separate savage statics collaborating to do this. The scheduling alone is frightening to think about. Which is why I very much understand the decision to stick to 1 boss and keep the time investment below 1h instead of something like 12 hours. Though as a temporary special event, I could see the latter working. Look at WOW there; say what you will about it, but WOW did this on a regular basis, and that's quite a feat. An alternative solution, however, is if this content would give special checkpoints that would allow you to return to that checkpoint even after leaving the duty. I don't know if that's possible from a technical standpoint, but splitting it into chunks like that so you could do the full Alliance raid could be cool. Yeah, you could then say "split it into multiple duties" but for those wishing to run the marathon... well I dunno, it's a possible compromise. But yeah, just getting 1 boss and then pulling the cool stuff from the others can work as well. Maybe even Ultimate-style cameos. Like for ARR alliance raid series, I can see them creating an Allagan Bomb mechanic, a Bone Dragon add, a Thanatos mechanic where only 1 Alliance can damage the boss or something else for a DPS check, King Behemoth doing King Behemoth things (You know the one), and a cameo of Plegethon for that Ancient Flare cast. And that's just LotA. Syrcus Tower had Scylla, and not many people know this, but Scylla has an attack called Daybreak where it petrifies everyone for 30 seconds. In the fight, the mechanic works similarly to Ancient Flare, but when combined with Cloud of Darkness has some different potential applications. Scylla also does Ancient Flare, but with puddles that increase your fire resistance to make it liveable. Glasya Lebolas is a joke of a fight nowadays. Which is why his later mechanics will certainly catch people off-guard. Lebolas is the tether guy; his mechanical adds do all sorts of things to help him, and they're the ones players have to manage. For example, the first clockwork wrights that spawn draw power from him or give it to him. AKA, they buff the boss or themselves. Unless you intercept and kill them. There's also the clockwork squires that will create nodes that tether to the boss and make him reflect magical and physical damage. That's a good one to wipe the raid with lol. Put an exploding timer on them for a DPS check around the room and anybody that attacks the boss dies, making the DPS check harder. Instant savage mechanic. And that's not all: Labolas has outer platform mechanics. Think Diamond Weapon, but with a circular platform and 3 outer platforms. Lots of stuff happens, it's really cool, look it up. Amon needs no introduction. And neither does Xande. As for WoD itself, we have some of my favourite bosses from ARR. All of these are bosses that to this day manage to wipe parties. Plegethon may sometimes manage it due to instant death mechanic, same for every boss with an instant death mechanic, but Angra Mainyu does it in a way that makes you say "Oh goddammit, f*** off." The random front laser. Any non-tank caught in that thing just drops to the floor if they aren't topped or shielded, and even the tanks say "ow! f***". The rotating hand creating an instant death area, that's a classic. Level 50-150 Death. Yup yup, always gets some people. The room-wide doom effect, also a classic. Also, Angra Mainyu flies, so... the devs can put him anywhere they like. I can see them just casually dropping him in the centre and you need to bait the laser to not get beamed to death, cuz it'd be an AOE line tankbuster. Also just casually casting doom. Yeah. Fun times. Five headed dragon... this guy is just an ***hole. Slimes that cast raidwide silence. Check. (Amon does that one too). Discordance could be revamped into something else, maybe. The fire bird that nobody understands how it works but is just a bird that spreads debuffs and kills you if you have said debuff. Prominence is just fiery balls of death that need to die before they kill you. Heat Wave is a pyretic. And then there's those ice puddles and the one that bops a bunch of players into the air. I dunno about this one. But there's some stuff. Then, Cerberus. I love this one, and you know how it works by now. Hound out of Hell is an easy way to make a cameo with. But what Cerberus is most known for is its belly mechanic, which is honestly the first time we saw this sort of mechanic, but it was done again in O5S. Kind of, in principle. These days, a popular strat is the ABC strat. But in savage, that won't cut it, cuz the DPS check is too tight. You need ALL DPS (and 1 healer per 8-man group) to go in there and wreck house. And while they're doing that, some other stuff is happening for the 3 tanks and 3 healers that remain outside. Get creative, Mr Ozma! And then cloud of darkness, but that one's already in there, obviously. As for the rest, well... holy crap, the potential. HW Alliance raids are notoriously tricky. I often still call one of them the Wiping City at Mach 1. It teaches you to fear a man taking a dump. And Stormblood? Oh man. Ohhh man! These are the best in the game to date IMO. Turning this into a second savage raiding tier would already be amazing. Every boss in there just... so good. And there's a reason they reappeared and their mechanics were reused many times! From Mateus to friggin Hashmal (this guy is a friggin celebrity for the amount of WoL body bags he's caught), Rofocale is super iconic too, friggin figure 8 skating me to the shadow realm, and Argath being an arrogant prick yapping about lies and truth is also unforgettable. The lighthouse has Famfrit, who's not too special but he's annoying for sure. Belias with the clock on the ground AOEs and time-related mechanics, he's the guy that really got that party started. Construct 7 made people do MATH and brought a big smile to my face with how fun the fight is overall. And Yiazmat is a big story trip, and is still pretty difficult. And then we come to the Orbonne Monestary, or as I like to call it: the Oh F*** we're boned monestary. Mustadio instant death mechanic and an MCH's wet dream of boss mechanics anyone? I sure wanna see SE push the American button on US. Agrias, just beautiful fight, especially the part where you're split apart, and of course the shield/sword mechanic. THUNDER GOD. He is true to his name. He needs his own savage fight. Just the fact that this fight on release was so hard that people complained about it and it got nerfed even though it's just a matter of precise execution of simple mechanics. These days I see ppl do things that normally would've meant a full wipe. (looking at the people who make the Byakko bleed bubbles touch and explode cuz they never did Byakko Extreme on content!) or the ppl that don't stand in the inumeration circles or the tanks that take the tether cuz they think it's a snack but it's actually a party wipe if they take it. And I miss getting to ranged LB the two orbs. So I want that Thunder God goodness back so I can scream and laugh my ass off at people really not paying attention. As for Ultima... *clicks tongue* doing that on savage will be... an experience of extreme torment. But so worth it if you clear. all in all... I want the full package. And Stormblood Unreal trials! Shinryu Unreal, Byakko Unreal, here I come!

[@lecrab8090]

Best we can do is an hour of MSQ and another brain dead dungeon please look forward to it

[@xsofe1605]

WOOO weekly Rin yap session, favorite part of the week

[@formy52]

I wish I was this optimistic about 7.1. Like me and the FC will try out the Savage Alliance Raid, and we'll continue our Savage progression (we're pretty casual with raiding so we started very late). The extreme and unreal might be fun. But for others, there will be hardly anything to do. My husband doesn't really do Extremes and definitely not Savage, there will be hardly anything for them to do, and they're already barely playing the game as it is. Glad more content is being produced but it would be nice for there to be content for casuals too. I was hopeful Criterion might've been a midcore bridge but it was far too difficult and more like Savage content, and died a death. I am sadly not surprised to hear the news they already think they might've gone overboard with the Chaotic Alliance Raid.

[@25xxfrostxx]

I don't do savage or ultimate. 7.1 will be an evening running the alliance raids followed by a 4.5 month wait for 7.2 with the content for the rest of us. April is a long way out.

[@mobius4247]

Extreme?

[@hb-mek]

god damn wtf do you do in the game then

[@hani5601]

​@@hb-mek theres so much to do besides high end be serious 😭

[@momentoyal930]

@@hb-mek thats what im sayin, how do u not raid what do u even do

[@Wishmaster787]

​@@momentoyal930savage is too hard for me

[@airget]

I do hope with the FFXI Raid they learn to use the trash mobs as a way to "teach" mechanics before facing a boss, that way you are mindful of what mechanics can occur and be ready for it without it being shown to you in a drip feed from the actual boss.

[@brontome]

I actually think a good and simple reward would be the alliance raid coin. Can either be a way to recieve a second eac week or an alternate, potentially faster to aquire coin. While i would like glamor and mounts, once you have them the content isnt replayable

[@Lordwhizzkid]

I am so excited about how these could potentially go. Endwalker's Alliance raid is something that comes to mind, because I could even see that thing expanded into an Ultimate, let alone Chaotic alliance raids. There's so much cool indepth possibility behind that we could really see something wonderful. Also if there are options to go outside of final fights of final tiers, Yiazmat is probably one of the most fitting given his notorious mechanics from 11, That first spinning boss in Puppets Bunker had some really cool mechanics that could be pushed a little further, or maybe even merged with Compound 2P to make a hellish multiphase boss with as many purple orbs as Mr. Yoko Taro can convince is necessary. My only caveat (and also the true reason I don't believe we'll be getting just upgrade materials from here), I do not expect this first Chaotic Alliance raid to drop until 7.15 . We still have Ultimate and much more content to come, releasing both of these at the same time for raiders isn't the smartest idea. So while I am looking forward to it, I am doing so with the expectation that it'll be in 3 months time from now. I do worry that some expect this to go live with 7.1 and I just hope they know to hold their horses, or whatever expansion appropriate mount theme they may feel.

[@MochiDragon1412]

Love that they called it Chaotic because that will absolutely be the best word to describe the experience, I can't wait

[@Omegan01]

The second I heard "savage level difficulty" my enthusiasm plummeted through the floor. Full respect to those who can swing it but I just can't do savage and banging my head against a fight of that difficulty tier is not my idea of a good time. I don't have the FF14 devs' enthusiasm for that level of challenge, which feels like a misstep for the first iteration of this experimental new content. If we were talking on the level of Memoria Misera or an extreme I would be more tempted to give it a try, but as it is I feel pretty deflated about it. Maybe in a year with gear progression I'll take a swing if it's still around and people are still doing it.

[@liasprings6502]

Personally, I am unimaginably excited for a potential ShB Chaotic Raid. I want Yoko Taro himself to reach through the screen to kill me, feel his hands close around my neck as Her Influorescence does the same to my character.

[@bitvanbite]

look at those stoneskin and protect buffs

[@agentheavybear8707]

"Handfull of times" tell that to my 99 ex1 totems >:(

[@redcpt3791]

Chaotic can be such a wealth of interesting new fights. Amon, Xande, Phlegethon, Diabolos, Thunder King, fucking ULTIMA THE HIGHT SERAPH! All fights that deserve a 'proper' version.

[@immersion9880]

OMG bringing back the thunder god would be AMAZING

[@lecrab8090]

I'm glad someone's excited. They've got to start spreading content out over the expansion better. Having months long content droughts between every patch has worn me down. The formula needs to change badly.

[@200000adam]

Exciting stuff coming with 7.1, fun stuff to speculate about (But I'm not sure I agree with the background music choise of the video)

[@shikiyama]

babe wake up new rinon video

[@junegob]

praying for yet another even harder ozma fight. yay geometry

[@mcmarcuz23]

...any Mahjong fans in here? I wonder which Scions yall will pick

[@laceyclark311]

@7:10 "...once he was raised up, praised by the gods that be, he then proceeded to choose...chaos."

[@MyVanir]

The chad Mr. Ozma, respecting players as intelligent beings.

[@GatsuGaming]

I am very excited to experience this new raid type. I missed out on a lot of the earlier fights/savages since I started at the end of Shadowbringers and only really cleared the last tier of the Endwalker savages. The more difficult content I can get into the more fun I'm going to have!

[@HemborgerChariot]

literally the only thing that worries me is the matchmaking. I'm a Materia player and queueing for normal Alliance Raids is already somewhat difficult, so a Chaotic one? As much as I love the concept I hope this is actually feasible.

[@bendonatier]

Personally I don't want Eulogia as much as I want Althik and Nymea. I want a two boss, three party alliance raid that really lets the devs sink their teeth into what two bosses means for an encounter.

[@iantaakalla8180]

Chaotic Nald’Thal (even more balancing, even more times they flip over to indicate large amounts of sequential attacks) Chaotic Rhalgr (all of the fingers have portals and all of them have cool effects) Chaotic Leonogg I (ghosts are always chasing you) Chaotic Zoraal Ja (the swords going down paths and the square transposition attacks are either normal or flipped like the star attack in Zodiark) Chaotic Honey B Lovely (you have to contend with the hearts for all the battle) Chaotic Alexander Prime (even more effects to deal with out of stopped time, and borrowing some mechanics from TEA but toned down) Chaotic Thordan (all the thirteen knights attack but they attack like the Mantis Lords in addition to the well known stages of Thordan -> that one knight -> twins -> meteors -> Thordan, but Thordan is also taking from his Dragonking form in DSR) Chaotic Shinryu (two out of five elements can be done at once) Chaotic Good King Moogle Mog (basically is the original version of the battle where you had to take out the moogles in a specific manner but also with the progression of GKMM12 Extreme)

[@MagicFanatics-l8b]

I'm honestly a little pessimistic about this. Getting that many people for a static will be difficult so the majority of people will turn to pf. Savage pf is awful with just 8 people so i'm concerned with how frustrating this will be with three times that many. I suspect this may be similar to DRS and BA with big discords carrying people through with call outs.

[@rare8567]

i hope its not one raid boss from each alliance raid series, the stormblood raids have so many great bosses.

[@Matthewsumarki]

Would be great if it ends up being like the big boss in old school diadem.

[@Schnereo]

I hope I still have enough time to get to lvl 100 and enjoy the arkadion :D

[@mobius4247]

Normal Arcadion is 4, 10-minute fights. The queue time is longer than the clear. Savage is a whole different beast and you have like 5 months from now to clear while it's technically current.

[@Schnereo]

Idk if I’m gonna do savage cuz I’m still new to final fantasy. Maybe it’s to hard but I’m gonna see what I’m going to do

[@Glennkabob]

PVP TOWERS PVP TOWERS PVP TOWERS PVP TOWERS

[@xL0stKIlah]

Yes

[@jaysea838]

I’m all for more end game content, esp rewarding ones. Simply bothers me for the amount of bank SE makes of this title that they aren’t putting it out more often. I’m not one for quantity over quality but they rarely even hit the quality benchmark. This game could be sooooo much better then it is / offer soooo much more but the devs continue to piecemeal content and the players take what they can get. As it stands I login for a couple hours on Tuesday to clear m1s-m4s and have nothing left to do for a week. Give me more reasons / incentive to play!

[@Envinyon]

yoshida going out of his way to mention it having a unique reward structure has me more excited than anything else, especially after criterion was kind of a dud in EW to the broader playerbase specifically because of that "Giving incentive to clear repeatedly and help out" implies that it won't just be a weekly clear kind of thing, which is great. ilvl 730 gear from it would be reason enough for players to flock to it, though I also think you need other stuff. Framer kits are always nice, a mount, various other cosmetics. Considering how much people did not care about Criterion, you need to offer more than you might think the content deserves in order to make it really tantalizing

[@calvinhayman7597]

I’m more worried how you’ll balance 24 man savage content. Especially because that’s a lot of people in voice call and if not trying to coordinate that may be the hardest part.

[@lulkaku]

I've never seen that E9S clip before. bruh 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@INeosIRex]

I will give it a try, but since its just a single fight and not an entire raid i'm not really interested.

[@ChrisKatsu-]

@@INeosIRex same. When I heard about it I thought great harder 24 mans. Especially after the sad state of the EW ARs. Seriously blink and you kiss some of them fights these days. But seeing it’s just a 24 man trial, does take away a lot of the excitement. Especially if it devolves in to discord only voice chat like what happened to BA and DRS….

[@unitedstatessc]

Past week? Feels like past month. Patch cycle way too slow. game felt dead for a while. The past two weeks PF savage has really drop in quality. They need to really get more content and get back on a 3 or 4 month cycle. This 5 month cycle is too little too late.

[@SubduedRadical]

Or do you think there will be something in this Savage 24 man that casual players can actually do?

[@GameMa5Ter2O01]

CHAOS

[@Astralmess]

Why even enjoy the thing if the hype is over? I'm chronically online and my brain's rotten to the core.

[@ode-blu]

I'm just here for the doman mahjong updates

[@Smarfton]

I'm sorry folks, the copium in this vid is all I can stand. The Alliance Raid chaotic, is a 24 person trial. And just like Rion mentioned, it reminds them of the news of the variants and the savage versions of those Remember how those turned out? Barely anyone did them save the extreme tryhards, plus severely underdeveloped rewards to entire anyone to do them. This is going to be a repeat. First week, lots of people will try it, then the second they learn the fight is without meaningful rewards and/or the mechs are pure nonsense, it will be forgotten. I would LOVE, truly love to be proven wrong. I'm batting a thousand with this dev team.

[@rjhick1]

This video is 100% cope. Lol

[@lecrab8090]

Nah you’re right

[@Nazuiko]

See you in 6 weeks where youre writing a script talking about why chaos raids failed and youre just not interested in them, and how players have mostly abandoned the content due to a lack of incentive and poorly balanced fight design. FFXIVs devs have completely lost my trust that anything in this game is worth looking forward to. I hope to be proven wrong, but I expect nothing, except faint prayers the relics and Shades Triangle will be good, because we all know the fights will be boring copypastes, the story is going to be uninteresting saturday morning cartoon writing, and the loot system is going to be a weekly reward matching the current Savage gear. The fact that even Ultimates dont drop weapons better than their Savage counterparts is a joke.

[@RinBanana]

It sounds like this game just isn’t for you anymore

[@HunterMask1507]

The Reason why Im excited for Patch 7.1 is because it will bring brand new content for one of my favorite games Final Fantasy XIV (2013) giving me a reason to keep coming back to it

[@PapiKamikaze]

The chaotic raid will just be niche content that just a handful of players will do, like criterion savage, unreal or ultimate. What we really need is midcore content, since the majority of FFXIV players are casuals or midcore, but they keep catering towards super easy or super hard content, no in between.

[@lecrab8090]

Clueless devs don't know what midcore means apparently

[@lyxivia]

how is extreme+ not midcore

[@lecrab8090]

@@lyxivia how can you be so out of touch how the average person plays this game? a very small percentage of players in any video game want to do stuff that requires them to use outside resources like guides. they doubly don't want to spend hours upon hours of wiping.

[@lyxivia]

​@@lecrab8090 what do you consider midcore then? because if you can consistently clear in a lockout from a fresh prog point, which you can with extremes, i consider it midcore content i personally clear extremes through PF on my DC (EU) and i've never really had an issue with any extreme or unreal except for thordan which is an outlier when it comes to that content, maybe you're just not into the game like that and that's fine i respect it not everyone's into raiding, but if extreme/unreal isn't "midcore" i don't know what is

[@lecrab8090]

@@lyxivia​​⁠​⁠​⁠Eurkea and Bozja plus Bozja’s duties like DR. The only misfire content in the game. All sufficiently engaging without requiring hours of dying to prog. OP himself said it, they keep adding easy or hard and nothing between.

[@SubduedRadical]

I'm still waiting for the casual and midcore content this expansion. Savage this, Ultimate, Chaotic Savage over here, an Ex of a fight already in the game that's probably going to be near Savage level hard anyway...so where's the casual and midcore content?

[@exmapotofu]

he ashhumed

[@hlion_one]

Oh some new Nier Content in 14 incoming hopefully, would be amazing :D False Idol / Her Inflorescence i am so ready for you :D Throw some Hensel&Gretel and Xun-Zi & Meng-Zi in for some replicant and automata chills and i am all in! :D

[@Nodnarb59]

No, no, keep it out, it had it's turn and many people hate the Nier raids

[@hobobeard]

More raids. Yawn. I look forward to logging in each week, doing the raid then feeling I have nothing worthwhile to do for the next six days. Raids are fine but they aren’t newsworthy. Or even notable anymore. We expect them. They happen. Sunrise sunset. I’ll play it but I have zero excitement for something which is a known quantity.

[@xL0stKIlah]

Socialize? Craft? Pvp?

[@hobobeard]

@@xL0stKIlah These are not considerations for OP

[@xL0stKIlah]

@@hobobeard it's just strange when I here nothing to do in a MMO so packed as FFXIV but then again I'm only lvl 61 sprout

[@hobobeard]

@@xL0stKIlah Yeah fair. To a new player there is always something new and novel to do but as someone who's been at this for a decade, who knows exactly what they like to play and what is worth their time or not it is easy to find yourself with "nothing to do". An awful lot of us log in once a week, do our chores then spend the week looking for ways to entertain ourselves elsewhere.🤷‍♂

[@lecrab8090]

@@xL0stKIlah the endgame is as shallow as a puddle

[@jellybryce7742]

FF 11 alliance looks good. That msq really destroyed all the good will with a lot of people. I hope they course correct after demoting all those bums involved with the patch msq.

Super excited for 24 man trial that will last two weeks because rewards will be not actual gear but another useless fluff like flying toilet mount. I really recommend people who feel like this game is creatively bankrupt to check new WoW expansion, it might be not best thing ever but miles ahead of this "RP hub pretending to be MMO" game.

[@tyhjyys]

rp hub pretending to be an mmo. ngl man, that's exactly how the game has been feeling to me for a long time now lmao

[@Zakjuh]

wow is a garbage fire though lmao dogshit story (even by dawntrail standards) and its main content is doing torghast 2.0 and running the same dungeons on repeat for months that don't even add new mechanics or anything but just up the numbers (wow, a party-wide aoe that did hit like a sprinkle of urine on regular levels now nearly oneshotting the group at m+20 how riveting). oh, and don't forget loyally waiting for your weekly reset to see what your slot machi-- I mean weekly vault gives and if you'll get anything useful at all or if you'll get stiffed for the 9th week in a row on loot go home, wow shillbot, or as your addons would tell you, "run away little girl, run away"

@@Zakjuh WoW story ended with Legion, whatever soy they're cooking now is not to my interest. But at least they let you play game when you're doing MSQ. When your game let's you kill something after 3 hours of reading boring texts and it's 2 mobs in a purple circle that dies in 3 hits - that's not engaging gameplay - that's bullshit. No mini games, no good cutscenes, I was tolerating this for 10 years because at least vn part was sometimes interesting, now it's not even mid. Solo duties were dog shit as well. Also, what you bud talking about? What torghast? Delves? Not even close, small and easy to clear if you want, or yo can ignore them, no one forces you to do them, you can get vault item from open world activities as well. Reactionary mechanics with random patterns is more fun for the middle tier players than heavily scripted DDR dances. Also for me and my FC mythic + system is perfect since we can get to the difficulty we want and stop there until get new items for less stress, then you have collection system and achievement system that miles better than FF. You're delusional if you're denying that FF nowadays just raid/rp log simulator. I saw myself through history of 4 expansions how they rip apart classes and dungeons just to make it more formulaic and scripted, god forbid tank lose aggro or dps press something aside it's static rotation. But hey, if you either one of those raiders or RPers, you don't care about those elements of the game and this game is good for you. WoW is better game now than it was, devs listen to feedback, path cycles better than ever, giving more content than FF has to offer, fun stuff to do with friends like pvp and dungeons without going sweat mode but still feeling a bit challenged and you can level up alts with different races for different aesthetic. Also no need to farm like hell, you can always chill out till next patch and they will have an event that let you get better gear while doing some "fate like" fights. WoW changed for better game so I don't mind to promote it, FF trying to sell me Shadowbribgers 3 with bad story, fuck them.

[@lecrab8090]

@@Zakjuhcrazy that you wasted that many words when the fact is wow’s player count has always and will always dumpster the nice anime cat girl mmo that releases a few hours of content every 4 months then says “oh it’s ok you can play other games”

[@bctk]

so someone is excited for 7.1 huh

[@jellemondeel2548]

Im just waiting for the nier chaotic raida

[@darrellbruh1335]

DT has no content

[@ntma]

'i was shitty to a dev i like because i thought he was.... a normal guy like you guys teehee like+subscribe :^)'

[@RinBanana]

yeah I didn’t reply to a tweet bring out the handcuffs lads

[@sagakun06]

boring 🙄

[@enchanrenan]

Glad to see so many likes and comments which I'm sure are appreciated, it's a struggle out there :rinrega: