I know most of you would disagree with me on this, but I wish Wheeljack lived all the way up to TLK, because the way he was killed off was devastating.
@AfterthymeGaming4 ай бұрын
@@lonewolfnergiganos4000 no need to live up until TLK. Just have him survive in DoTM to give some more screen time for him and kill him off screen by the time for Age of Extinction. Or better make him part of the cast so Bumblebee has someone he's more familiar and would probably back him up.
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
Clearly we are gonna get more movies before the 2007 timeline, this Wheeljack we got in ROTB will have a lot of potential hopefully to grow on us and demonstrate some kickass mechtech.... I mean I hope... He didn't do anything in ROTB but at least he had "some" character, BB Wheeljack was just another soldier
@AfterthymeGaming4 ай бұрын
@@alobaymar it depends. While the reboot still has some aspects that let us connect it to the Bayverse, they still don't line up very well. But we can say they're aligned well enough the reboot can be prequels. At least untill the next live-action film debunks it, of course. I see Bumblebee (2019), RoTB, TF07, RoTF and DoTM as some sort of aligned movies. As for AoE and TLK, I really can't place them as BUmblebee(2019) has debunked that Bumblebee came to earth during WW2. Though, I think AOE still fits. But in any way, lets keep these to ourselves as we don't want people to get mad because they don't understand.
@MeowsclesPrime4 ай бұрын
@@lonewolfnergiganos4000 not more than devastator’s death
@MahadShahzad084 ай бұрын
@@alobaymar I am sure if Lorenzo di bonaventura wasn't involved in the making of bumblebee and ROTB. The BB Wheeljack would have had a bigger and major role and a true Wheeljack design in ROTB. He wanted to connect the design to the Bayformers. It was lorenzo who wanted to connect the Bay films with BB and ROTB. Dude just wouldn't shut up and let the new movies be their own continuity
@juanjoyaborja.30544 ай бұрын
His death was lowkey devastating. He looked to be this old, experienced, kind autobot just trying to help his young comrades as much as he could. Soundwave and barricade toying around with him was extremely brutal, especially with him falling to the ground and his head rolling off. Yikes. Just one of the many scenes which subtly indicate how grotesquely evil and ruthless this rendition of the decepticons was.
@tyresehenry41764 ай бұрын
Out of all of the live action Wheeljacks, DOTM Que is my favorite in terms of CHARACTERIZATION AND PERSONALITY. He still has the fundamental parts of Wheeljack in comparison to the others. He isn't a dork like Pablo and he has more personality than in the bumblebee movie.
@kraftik53004 ай бұрын
Dotm Wheeljack/que and Transformers prime Wheeljack are my most favorite versions of him, both give Whelljack hits own personality.
@eudacye709Ай бұрын
@@kraftik5300 He had his own personnality lol. He was a grumpy mechanician who makes things that go boom.
@chillayinsane50794 ай бұрын
I remember watching dotm live in the cinema. Not only did i see my favorite auotbot die first, but also a sweet, caring, and innocent one die next defenseless
@LightningZetton4 ай бұрын
I will admit DOTM Wheeljack looked better than ROTB Wheeljack. And plus, I liked how he had more gadgets and weapons on him. It's such a shame that was only for the toy to include so many accessories as we never saw him using those in the film. He could've stabbed a few decepticons with his spear or cut their arms off with that hand-held chainsaw his toy had. As for ROTB Wheeljack, I think he only had 2 weak blasters
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
I have a Mandela effect of Wheeljack fighting in Chicago with a spear once, and I think I sworn there was a scene of him reving up his toolbox chainsaw on to the floor and it drove into a Decepticon protoform, slicing him in half. I had a sick imagination as a kid and was OBSESSED with Wheeljack in dotm
@Theorymus4 ай бұрын
@@alobaymar I think that was in a fan animation made by Orso
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
@@Theorymus OMG you are absolutely right I just rewatched that, my headcanon is he probably kicked a lot of ass off screen, especially the weird gap of how did the autobots even get captured by the hands of Gould in the first place and what they did beforehand
@TimeDragonA.C.B7774 ай бұрын
@@Theorymus Dick bot the blending machine
@josemiguelvaquero4 ай бұрын
Weeljack's death in Dark of the Moon hurt me a lot. If he had survived the Battle of Chicago, he would have repaired Optimus and helped the other Autobots in the fight against Galvatron, Lockdown, or in the battle against Hong Kong.
@Geekformer4 ай бұрын
IMO que should’ve been his own character because then his design would’ve been better received if it’s not Wheeljack
@mohammadhossain96084 ай бұрын
Should have been Wheeljack's mentor type and Wheeljack as different character.
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
I think it's because out of all the Wheeljack traits he was portrayed in doing onscreen, you just don't like his design. Erm....
@JMK9484 ай бұрын
Read the comics. Remember goldbug. This isn't the first time a transformer has been redesigned after a tragic injury.
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
@@JMK948 imo I think Wheeljack just got a design upgrade, this was his only chance to become who he wanted to be. It's 2024, Transformers can identify how they want. I still call him Que because he refers himself as Que, short for Quartermaster. But I also accept he perhaps used to be Wheeljack, or goes by Wheeljack as a profession
@Masterofhammers4 ай бұрын
I personally love both designs of Dotm and Rotb. That's because i dont see Wheeljack in them. I see them as Que and Pablo. Separate characters that are supposed to fit a similar lifestyle and personality. They always reuse names for different characters to keep these names trademarked. I see them both as exactly that. It's probably why i like both designs more than others.
@DemiRurge4 ай бұрын
As Bobsheaux pointed out in his review of Dark of the Moon, it is kinda messed up to have Que modeled after Albert Einstein, one of the few Jews that was able to escape the Holocaust, just to have him shot down, in the back of the head no less.
@nolhanpeltier64594 ай бұрын
Damn- never thought of it that way- 0_0
@DemiRurge4 ай бұрын
@@nolhanpeltier6459 all of the sudden, Megan Fox's comparison of Michael Bay to Hitler don't seem so out of pocket.
@novustalks75252 ай бұрын
Never thought of that
@novustalks75252 ай бұрын
@@DemiRurgeit was Spielberg who designed him
@DemiRurge2 ай бұрын
@@novustalks7525 Not sure, but I doubt it
@GareGoji20144 ай бұрын
R.I.P George Coe🪦☮️
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
🙏
@evanmeirweber4 ай бұрын
1. What accent does Que have (somebody said German, would make sense) 2. I can't unsee Topspin's mullet, thx (I saw the long hair, but didn't consider) 3. Or Roadbuster's goatee (i just now noticed it) 4. Never considered the hair 5. Never noticed the lab coat 6. What if I Survived #7 when?
@Brazil100034 ай бұрын
Theorymus, there's one detail about Weeljack/Que that you glosses over: Originally, his head was supposed to look like Cristopher Loyd's character Doc Brown from the 'Back to the Future' films before Speilberg came in and asked them to make his head look like Einstein's. The Notes section of his TFWiki page says so.
@AfterthymeGaming4 ай бұрын
Despite his uncanny design, Que was more Wheeljack than Prime Wheeljack ever was. In two minutes, Que proved to be a good Wheeljack variant personality wise more than Prime Wheeljack with, like what, 2 seasons and a movie(?).
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
Dude when SS releases Que we are so back 😎
@AfterthymeGaming4 ай бұрын
@@alobaymar more or less we shall soon return to the Studio Series *duu nu nu nuu dun*
@Kaiju-bm4ts4 ай бұрын
Bro this isn't much of a good comparison when prime wheeljack was more of a character than bayverse wheeljack was. He hardly has much of a personality if he barely appeared in the 1 film he was in 😅. Cyberverse wheeljack was everything you think bayverse wheeljack was in terms of character writing. You're comparing 2 different interpretations of the same character despite said different interpretation is more fleshed out than the other? You not see the flawvin that comparison? You're comparing a wasted potential character to another version of that same character who was used alot more.
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
@@Kaiju-bm4ts I think when referring Que as "more of a Wheeljack" it's referring to on-screen context. While Wheeljack has done a lot of things in the show, it's not giving anyone the big idea this guy is a scientist because the only thing that gives off that he IS Wheeljack is his design, I mean that's it. Basically another copy-paste warrior. Que on the other hand, while given a short screentime and unique design, gives context to audiences on his business with his character as this quartermaster, without anyone having to dive into any lorebooks like comics and other shows. Show, don't tell. That's how you write characters.
@Kaiju-bm4ts4 ай бұрын
@@alobaymar "show don't tell, that's how you write characters" this line doesn't work when you admitted he has a lack of screentime.....the "show don't tell" logic only works if a character has PROPER screentime to flesh out their character which que doesn't get and prime wheeljack does. Both aren't aiming for the same interpretation so to compare their executions isn't entirely fair. While one may be aiming to be more faithful, that version is hardly a character. Even when we compare a more faithful wheeljack (cyberverse) to que, the "show don't tell" argument still doesn't work in que's favor as cyberverse wheeljack not only has enough screentime to flesh out his character but we see plenty more of his inventions. Some causing the plots of some episodes to even happen. Meanwhile you have to literally dig into the comics to see what que has done as the most he does to contribute onscreen is giving Sam weapons. OP comparing que to another wheeljack who was not made to be a scientist and is more fleshed out as a character comes off as a rather....desperate attempt to paint que as a well written character when he was anything but that.
@vindicatorschannel71364 ай бұрын
Finally. The question of all TF fans, answered. Could you also do some more what if I Survived episodes, those were awesome!
@QuanjayNon-ie5yx4 ай бұрын
if im going to be completely honest dotm wheeljack is probably one of the best versions of the guy and his design is great i love the creativity and how its original
@flipthescript10814 ай бұрын
I love how many stuff he has along with those shoulder designs
@TripølarGTEditz20244 ай бұрын
I just thought that bay just wanted him to look like albert😂
@keldeostudies1494 ай бұрын
Though some would say que and wheeljack are technically two separate characters, especially thanks to the tie in material no longer being classified as cannon
@qstorm384 ай бұрын
I didn’t even think that Devcon would be based on Cloverfield. Now that I see the comparison, I totally get it.
@zenknight48394 ай бұрын
Imo, some bayformers should've just been original characters, like Que and Dino being their own (Blackout was an original bayformer)
@illyanesterenko89304 ай бұрын
And Barricade also (At least I believe so)
@cobaltwolf94 ай бұрын
@@illyanesterenko8930 From what I know he is because he originally was going to be Prowl
@illyanesterenko89304 ай бұрын
@@cobaltwolf9 yeah, that's true. But because there wasn't enough Decepticons, they changed him to be a bad cop.
@cobaltwolf94 ай бұрын
@@illyanesterenko8930 True
@zenknight48394 ай бұрын
@@illyanesterenko8930 got one of the best cons anyways imo XD
@V_Nayrr4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: his robot mode has silver rear view mirrors while his vehicle mode had blue ones since his entire car was blue
@magmaninjax43974 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, I was always Que-rious!
@TransformersFan7814 ай бұрын
There used to be a old design of Wheeljack in the Transformers psp game and have a concept stratos as his alt mode.
@christianparrish32924 ай бұрын
I've been wondering about this too.
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
I'm just surprised out of all the wacky designs that people still are able to identify by names, Que's design apparently crosses the line and divides fans in an insane level
@juanjoyaborja.30544 ай бұрын
It “crosses the line” by actually being a very normal transformer design. Bayverse painted an image of very alien/insect-looking cybertronians up until this point. It’d be hard to look at someone like Bonecrusher and Que, then think that they’re in the same continuity. Just vastly different design themes.
@M.A.S.K._Crusader4 ай бұрын
CALLING ALL AUTOBOTS!!!
@jaredpower10194 ай бұрын
Well atleast in 2025 hasbro will finally make studio series Que aka Wheeljack since his original toy was cancelled and was only in Japan and Europe
@cool12jack5 ай бұрын
The wheeljack we should have gotten from the bumblebee movie should have been in rise of the beast
@Zane_Is_Insane4 ай бұрын
Generic take
@toadyevan41694 ай бұрын
Don’t you dare diss ma boy Pablo
@Uhoh16884 ай бұрын
@@toadyevan4169fr
@vindicatorschannel71364 ай бұрын
I mean Pablo ain't bad.
@Kaiju-bm4ts4 ай бұрын
@@Zane_Is_Insane how is this a generic take when no one asked for wheeljack to look humanoid. Kills me when people defend the bay designs by saying "they look realistic, they look robotic" but immediately come to the defense of a non robotic looking wheeljack....
@Uhoh16884 ай бұрын
Theorymus make a video on how wheelie got to earth! Also i love your videos ive been watching since like 200 subs, but ive missed a few videos still finding ones i haven't watched
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
How he got to Earth? Soundwave ejected him to spy on Mikaela.
@MeowsclesPrime4 ай бұрын
Pablo’s design aint bad
@ELGrandosmokio-qj2dr4 ай бұрын
Get out🗣👉
@MeowsclesPrime4 ай бұрын
@@ELGrandosmokio-qj2dr no
@janrafhael28852 ай бұрын
@@ELGrandosmokio-qj2drSAITAMA:UM, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
@davidbailey69174 ай бұрын
I really look forward to getting his Studio Series figure in 2025!!
@muhammadhabibieamiro36394 ай бұрын
Another amazing video
@tevinhoward44194 ай бұрын
He could have been repaired and assemble gadgets to target ksi drones and galvatron and cemetery wind with lockdown especially Quintessa
@J_Cat39104 ай бұрын
Definitely disagree on Que being better than Pablo. Hop off the goat 😤😤😤
@MogusMasterSaikawa224 ай бұрын
I think he's underrated and I don't even like dotm XD I definitely agree with the last statement you made at least there's like a logical direction behind his design idk what they were thinking with rotb wheeljack. at least give him a different name haha
@dg45454 ай бұрын
You know how in this universe, transformers were part of every aspect of human history? As ridiculous as it sounds, I like to imagine that Que has Einstein's brain. How? idk it just sounds cool and something that fits this universe.
@MysteriousCloset4 ай бұрын
You talked about my Boi! I hope you doing ok, I have been keeping you in my Prayers❤ I also noticed that Que has four fingers.
@boriskoutsenok60134 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm one of the very few people in this world that actually really likes the DOTM Wheeljack designs. I even dare say its better than G1 or any other continuity. Since I grew up on bayformers, this design was my definitive of what Wheeljack is.
@The_Very_Halal_Indonesia4 ай бұрын
In the Transformers fandom... We don't talk about one thing DO NOT TALK POSITIVELY ABOUT NERDJACK (Albert Wheeljack is fine)
@wangeroogerque4 ай бұрын
I really hope we'll get a new Studio Series figure of him, because the old one was cool but didn't aged well. But the transformation is pretty good.
@faaris74324 ай бұрын
The tfp design was top tier, glad they made it into live action in bumblebee
@myfunbox3554 ай бұрын
Wish we saw him transform at least once. Didn't even knew he was the Mercedes in that scene I thought it was a normal car because is the only one that didn't transform.
@alexandersilva33274 ай бұрын
He did transform in the Autobots return scene you can see him Slowly transform behind Mirage/Dino
@myfunbox3554 ай бұрын
@@alexandersilva3327 went to look the scene again and you're right, must have been distracted by bumblebee, doesn't help that he's in the very back of the group
@wardbjerregaard51554 ай бұрын
I love your Collab with CGY channel man ❤️🇦🇺…
@nathanthelazynightfall17384 ай бұрын
From what iv heard the reason people didnt like wheeljacks appearance what because it didnt look like him. But then again wouldn't it make sense? This takes many many years in the future from the last known wheeljack screening and my thought was wouldn't he have aged and became old there for this is why he looks the way he does atleast thats what i believe
@kaiser81954 ай бұрын
I didn't even know that the character from ROTB is actually Wheeljack until after I watched the movie. He was just so unrecognizable.
@j-sant-animations81054 ай бұрын
I think he looks fine as is, the movie kept his name Que so by screen accuracy his a new guy if you ignore the end credits. George Lucas I think said something like this: Not every good guy needs to be a handsome supermodel, or every bad guy an ugly mess, and as an ugly mess myself I enjoy the beauty diversity
@DillonTrinhProductions4 ай бұрын
Nice video as always Theorymus!
@Theorymus4 ай бұрын
Thx 👍
@Venomguy434 ай бұрын
Controversal take: i actually like this wheeljack design, sure it has some issues but i don't think it's staright up awful like arcee in revenge of the fallen, skids and mudflap or even stuff that isn't from the bay timeline like wheeljack's design in rise of the beasts.
@Renaldo900gamer4 ай бұрын
Nice video!👍
@captainbat374 ай бұрын
I honestly prefer his rise of the beasts design over dark of the moon
@shadowmarauder60334 ай бұрын
Wait, so it wasn’t Michael Bay’s fault this time? Huh, that’s a first.
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
Not every single production decision is by the fault of a director.
@RydellAggin124 ай бұрын
It’s been many years already, y’all need to stop using Michael bay as a scapegoat😂
@KillerOfJedi4 ай бұрын
No, it's Lorenzo, always has been
@alobaymar4 ай бұрын
Michael this, Spielberg that, Lorenzo all of that. Ok I'm sorry you all sound like Doug Walker
@MTC-hy6ig4 ай бұрын
@@KillerOfJedi nobody said lorenzo
@bjoggihelgi4 ай бұрын
Can you pls do what if the fallen survived in ROTF pls im a huge fan pls😢❤❤😢❤😢❤😢❤😢❤😢❤😢
@r01d24 ай бұрын
I have 2 points of why I don't really like TF Q, first of all is his hair - if only they change it into fins of antennas that will be better, second is how his head is round but his body is sharp triangular and rectangular - I can't unsee his head just flying above headless body aka they never good match.
@everettparker13134 ай бұрын
This was Incredible Masterpiece for Transformers Film Series Version of Wheeljack. Transformers Film Series Version of Wheeljack is My Third Favorite Version of Wheeljack and The Late George Coe (1929 - 2015) did an Excellent Performance Bringing Wheeljack to Live Action.
@arcticwarriors70144 ай бұрын
To be honest he should never be called wheel jack not just because he looks nothing like him but also the characters never call him wheel jack by name unlike that abomination wheel jack from rise of the beasts instead he should just be call que as it is good for a original character who is not wheel jack and looks nothing like him
@theunholyadventurer23764 ай бұрын
I've heard that ROTB Wheeljack should've been Beachcomber and I 100% agree
@godzillaisbetterthenyou97624 ай бұрын
i still wish WheelJack had his Movie Comic design in Rising STorm of the comics
@Mecha-tron2014 ай бұрын
I actually have an idea for an in-universe explanation but it’s very basic if I’m honest, so we know the transformers have access to the internet, so maybe when wheeljack came to earth he saw images of Albert Einstein and heard his story and found it interesting so he decided to model his face after him
@LordMegatron-qk2gz4 ай бұрын
Wheeljack deserved better
@Boomer8164 ай бұрын
I don't know why people hate his design so much i think its pretty sick and cant wait for his rumored Studio Series figure
@RPN_074 ай бұрын
Because his SMART.
@Pyrofromteamfortress2o4 ай бұрын
Did you read my comment about que and made this video about it?
@Erwyn_4 ай бұрын
My boy Pablo 🗣️🗣️
@Dog-man6824 ай бұрын
When Bay saw the original designs for Wheeljack, he said they looked like A Pixar character.
@PawPatrolxTransformers4 ай бұрын
Loving it
@F4T8-je2we4 ай бұрын
Hey for your next video, can you explain what the hell the design team were thinking when they designed Wheeljack for Rise of Beasts??
@cobaltwolf94 ай бұрын
From what I heard, either Bay or Lorenzo told Steven to change Wheeljack's design so it was original. (I forgot the actual wording) I could be wrong but I do remember hearing that
@Dog-man6824 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I never noticed Roadbusters boutique.
@eatbreaddigward4 ай бұрын
Look Bumblebee! ropes! we can use these to traverse big pits!
@R3tr0w14 ай бұрын
WheeelJack's death hurt the most
@harrishyatt62834 ай бұрын
rid 2015 wheeljack is a combination of g1 and prime, armada wheeljack was an autobot that became a decepticon
@J.M.I_Filmmaker4 ай бұрын
Who is excited for studio series que next year
@JTMotion844 ай бұрын
I will say that I have grown to like que’s design over time despite years of me hating it but I just feel like rotb does it for me better. Character wise I like que more but I like the body design of rotb more Anyways great vid
@nkosinathimbali62264 ай бұрын
but i love wheeljack :
@WyattCreel-wc5wf4 ай бұрын
Hot take y'all I really like wheeljacks dotm design and I can't wait for the studio series version
@RickStralen4 ай бұрын
Sentinel prime is also supposed to be albert einstein as sam witwicky said in rotf
@546productions4 ай бұрын
Theorymus never dissapoints us with these videos...
@MuricaRules4 ай бұрын
How did Jetfire get his alt mode as he went into stasis lock long before the SR-71 ever entered service which was in January 1966.
@choostopher50184 ай бұрын
Sentinels face matches Leonard Nimoy his voice actor.
@dannydelgado30954 ай бұрын
This video should go in the Tales of Production playlist due to the TT logo being silver. Gold logos indicate a Fixing Transformers video.
@Theorymus4 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know I forgot to put it there 👍
@sappayatoranisritakhet51324 ай бұрын
I agree with you Mr.Jason although this is not the best Wheeljack design live action its really better than that weirdo design in rotb wheeljack is a scientist guy so the most wellknown scientist is fit to his character right?
@jaredpower1019Ай бұрын
I did remember in Japan during age of extinction was releasing figures takara released a Wheeljack a repaint of Que figure but this Wheeljack has g1 colors and his g1 head but it is different and I’m wondering if there was a concept art that Que was gonna have a battlemask
@Darragh74 ай бұрын
I honestly always kinda liked Que/Wheeljack
@MeowsclesPrime4 ай бұрын
GOAT
@winsorblue24284 ай бұрын
I never knew it was meant to be Wheeljack’s beard. I always thought it was his teeth
@GriceCole-ue7pc4 ай бұрын
For the longest time, i thought his face was a skull
@Chaosgodthekiller4 ай бұрын
einstein to pablo
@cybersoldierforever4 ай бұрын
So long old friend.
@Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time1274 ай бұрын
Because Sentinel wears a similar helmet like Optimus
@luke12734 ай бұрын
I think I have find something in transformers the last knight on the submarine bit were they are getting chased by a other sub
@WOLFANG13774 ай бұрын
Always loved that version of Wheeljack... i was pretty pissed when Soundwave killed him. This Wheeljack is the typical friendly sweet grandpa that unfortunately has to die in any media. The old man in Blade: Dead, the old man in Choo Choo Charles, dead, the old man alien in The Mandalorian: DEAD, The old man in X Men Origins Wolverine... DEAD... THE LIST GOES ON, ITS RIDICULOUS
@ricardosmuts4 ай бұрын
Albert Einstein be like
@Foxyk64 ай бұрын
Can you do what if sideswipe survived series again
@Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time1274 ай бұрын
Que is ugly? He looks so kind to me like happy old grandpa. Fallen is ugly
@RydellAggin124 ай бұрын
Am I the only person who never have problem with his design? No matter what people think of his design, his character is respectable to the source material
@r01d24 ай бұрын
this video makes me google Deluxe Class DOTM Wheeljack to rethink about my opinion of him.... OH MY GAWD, Hasbro made his face looks like Jigsaw's mascot in SAW