The reason you LOVE The Avengers! | Avengers: Ultron Unlimited

The Avengers must confront their greatest foe yet: Ultron, the sentient robot created by Avenger Hank Pym, who has seized control of the world's media and destroyed the Eastern European country of Slorenia. Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #avengers #marvel #ultron
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[@comicpop]

We were looking into the etymology of some of the language used in this comic, and in turn used in this episode, and wanted to apologize for our use of said language without context. We promise to be more careful in our language choices in future episodes, and we only ask for your patience as we continue to grow and improve as people.

[@lucyinchat]

Glad you have! I really like the word Roma instead.

[@danieljames9322]

Please. Swear to your hearts content.

[@mikelmcknight72]

Intent matters, as you cannot control what others choose to let offend them.

[@bignoasted2701]

​@@mikelmcknight72it is certainly much more complicated than that there is a race of people who have been mislabeled for like 400 years

[@Omar-wq9dz]

Thor saying "Ultron, we would have words with thee" is 1 of the most iconic Avengers moments

[@thoarnejones6805]

Would have been epic if thor said something similar in the movie. But the line "IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO?" will have to work.

[@Chalk0073]

I can't believe they didn't have that line in the movie.

[@calsh14]

@@Chalk0073 that's because they wanted to make Thor a funny man instead of a god

[@darraghmcconn]

@@thoarnejones6805 8ì

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

Hearing an Ultron 8 is a better father than you reference was like someone hitting me over the head with nostalgia. With a bat.

[@vfxninja5503]

Or perhaps like being struck with a nostalgia crowbar

[@gartrellwhite7504]

Firestar had a costume and mask change courtesy of Hank Pym. Previous to the restart of Avengers, Firestar's X-gene had a deficiency that didn't protect her body from her microwave powers, leaving her susceptible to cancer. Hank created that costume to absorb the microwave radiation.

[@comicpop]

Cool.

[@robertparkhurst4034]

So her ability to shoot and catch on fire was not something that her body had adapted to via the X gene, so she could use her powers but they acted as if she were any human that suddenly started shooting off fire… fitting. Yet at the same time, feels like the equivalent of if Ice Man constantly gave himself Frostbite. Guess she’s just a rank below in that sense

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

*Hank:* _whaling on his son_ *Janet:* “Ha ha! That’s how that feels!”

[@SkylightCiel]

"Ultron, we would have words with thee" would've gone SO HARD in "Age of Ultron" and it's upsetting that they didn't put it in there.

[@kourtneyr.scruggs0988]

Instead we got “Is that the best you got?”

[@brianadkins3880]

Unfortunately, I don't think it would have worked in the MCU. Classic comic book Thor doesn't seem too much like the MCU version.

[@tyrxian6452]

@@brianadkins3880 he was until Ragnarok

[@brianadkins3880]

@@tyrxian6452 Nay, I say to thee lol

[@chrisdaily2077]

Ultron's master plans range from killing all of humanity to forcing his dad to make him a girlfriend out of the brainwaves from his dad's girlfriend.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I love how Ultron subverts the whole “the evil AI is only evil because it doesn’t understand human emotions” trope by just being the pettiest motherfucker in the entire Marvel universe. Dude tried to cuck his own father with a robot clone of his dad’s girlfriend. That’s Oldboy levels of fucked-up revenge schemes, and it’s amazing

[@hobbes6392]

She’s named Jocasta, that’s not even a clever pun it’s literally the name of Oedipus’ mother, ya know the myth about the guy who bangs his mom.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@hobbes6392 “Have you ever heard of wincest?” - Ultron, probably

[@priceyyeti4058]

Man, it's a crying shame these recent uploads aren't getting the views they deserve. GL-GA, War of the Gods, Round Robin, now this? All hilarious, great episodes that genuinely make me curious about picking up the books. Hell, I was looking at a Moon Knight Omnibus because of Round Robin.

[@brianadkins3880]

Almost 36k in a week isn't good? Just curious as to how much would be? Does it have to be, at least, 40 or 50 in a week?

[@tyrxian6452]

@@brianadkins3880 they seem to get about 40+ usually from what I've seen

[@BigT4489]

I loved Sal's "rant" about publishing these stories, cuz he's absolutely correct. I hate wanting to read or own these seminal stories only for them to be out of print. It's asinine.

[@samgilley3160]

"Hey you want to read Stan Lee's spider-man run? The most popular and well known comic run of all time? Have fun spending hundreds of dollars on our out of print masterwork collections!"

[@thegloriouswizard5270]

*if collected at all*

[@freack3333]

"Stark makes a hostile takeover... with his penis". Never change. 🤣

[@aidanalvarez5486]

47:22 the creepiness of the Ultron-Jocasta relationship kind of fits. Jocasta is a name from the Greek play Oedipus Rex where the main character, Oedipus, ends up unknowingly marrying his mother Jocasta.

[@sombrashadow0013]

The benefits of having a birthday on a Wednesday. Best birthday present ever. Love you guys

[@ctl6985]

Happy birthday

[@TupocalypseShakur]

What a coincidence, it's my birthday too

[@sombrashadow0013]

@@TupocalypseShakur That's awesome! Happy birthday 🎂 🥳

[@sombrashadow0013]

@@ctl6985 thank you

[@TupocalypseShakur]

@@sombrashadow0013 thanks, happy Birthday to you too

[@linknlog]

This is hands down my favorite Avengers story ever. I got into Avengers when Busiek and Perez relaunched the title, and this story in particular is what hooked me.

[@easyj9826]

Same here brother

[@AuthenticApathy]

I love when Sal's robophobia comes out

[@grimandbilly005]

"Twice the pride, double the fall" it wouldn't be a back issues episode without a star wars reference

[@chrisdaily2077]

And specifically a prequel reference.

[@Depthcharge2030]

I’ve been trying to track down trades of this run, it would be nice if Marvel to reprint them in honor of George Perez.

[@pay7232]

Reprinting the omnibus

[@markhalm9889]

With the exception of Spiderman and Fantatic Four up to 2015 every Silver Age Marvel hero you think of has been canceled at least once. It just took the right team coming together to give them that iconic run that then everyone else will be judged against.

[@sephirothii13]

Talking about the Marvel printing, They still print the Dragonlance books and they are 40 years old. How many old Stephen King stories do they reprint and keep stocked? One of the reasons I got more into DC is because I could find old GL and WW trades.

[@TDWTB]

I’m sad we lost Perez, the guy drew the definitive Teen Titans, Wonder Woman, and Avengers. The fact they are releasing his works en masse later this year is great for so many of us who didn’t get to buy them before.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Ultron unlimited is a really fun avengers story and is probably the best avengers story we had in a very long time in my opinion.

[@SPEIGHTS78]

I don't know I did like Avengers breakout story arc. And I always liked the Avengers Heroes Return story arc we're there in the middle ages

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@SPEIGHTS78 i can understand that

[@fiaschampion3379]

It's pure soul.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@fiaschampion3379 indeed

[@HaussmannComics]

Ultron Unlimited or the Ultron Imperitive should have been the name of the Avengers movie instead of Age of Ultron

[@kevinmarques7716]

Funny Ben talks about it being gross that Ultron based his bride on his "mom" Jan because that's exactly why her name is Jocasta. Jocasta is the name of Oedipus' mother from the Greek tragedy. Hence the term Oedipus Complex

[@kiko1935]

War Machine not having ANY of it is the funniest shit

[@mike7277]

Ultron was destroyed for good for a while, I sometime after Avengers Disassembled. But then he appeared in outer space, as the main antagonist of the Annihilation Conquest run. Ultron uploaded himself into out space at this point, so even when you unmake every backup on Earth, there's always another one just chilling with the Shiar or something that will inevitably find its way back to earth.

[@harrydickens5268]

Rewatching this today and tickled by Sal alluding to the art of Spider-Man: Quality of Life at @2:00 before doing it several Back Issues later; a real nice Easter Egg in the Comic Pop Cinematic Universe

[@calvinjluther]

An Image Revolution movie starring Todd and Rob playing themselves without deaging would be the best possible casting.

[@anothercleverusername992]

_"I mean, we DID save you from Alchema.... Apparently you needed that..."_ 😂🤣😂🤣 Ben's delivery and facial expression when he said that was SO perfect and fucking hilarious.

[@timothyperez6099]

JLA Avengers is such a treat and testament through and through! Can't wait to see the revisit and if y'all cover the Just Imagine series where Stan Lee has his take on the DC heroes! A lesser known sorta-crossover unintentional event lol

[@michaellabonte6390]

Man the last two back issues are just tailored to me. Feelin spidey AND moon knight? Here ya go. Feelin Avengers? HERE YA GO COMIC POP RULEZ!

[@cincymutt]

Avengers' popularity has become very underrated in recent years. People say they've only become popular because of the movies, and for general audiences that may be true, but in the comic world i think they've done alright; even if they weren't the most popular series, the Avengers have been the biggest/most famous team in the Marvel universe (in the actual universe, I mean) for decades. Honestly, I can't believe they would've had such a major push in the canon (both in solo comics and as a team) for so long if no one was reading them. I mean, I was into comics for a good few years before all these movies all blew up and I thought the Avengers were one of the biggest things to know about (if you were into comics). And even outside of the fandom, quite a few people knew about the Hulk and Captain America, and I remember even seeing Iron Man and Thor pop up from time to time in the "normal" world. I can't help but think that Sal has a perception of them being nothing because they were at maybe their lowest point during his youth. But even though they've long been outsold by Spider-Man or X-Men (who, together, probably accounted for the majority of sales at their height) it's still been one of the more popular titles of many Marvel has had.

[@nerdyrockcomics5428]

The Venture Brothers reference! I know it wasn't for me specifically but thank you! And absolutely elsewhere else exchange introduced me to Venture Brothers, and my life has been pretty great ever since

[@pranavmadathil7942]

Hey guys! HUGE fan. Was wondering if you'd be interested in doing Batman: No Man's Land anytime soon? Can't wait for the next Ultimate Spider-Man too😶🤞

[@SpiralSine6]

Sal’s talked about NML before, he’s said that one of the problems doing it was that it’s just so damn big. It isn’t as much an event as it is a publishing label for a lot of titles for like a year.

[@Martin_TheCollector]

I'm super glad I purchased the omnis several years ago. Busiek and Perez are absolutely fantastic!! Most of the time. Nobody is perfect though.

[@mickeymouse7726]

George Perez is a legend man

[@MrFtpforlife]

I was an Avengers West Coast fan, especially the John Byrne era but I do agree growing up X Men seemed way cooler lol

[@sonofhercules195]

Thanks comicpop for prompting me to preorder Avengers/JLA. Got my copy and its was a blast

[@sayedaadel5355]

I've been coming back to back issues since I was 16 im 23 rn I

[@dragonman969]

47:16 that’s why she’s Jocasta The Oedipus myth

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

“Have you ever heard of wincest?” - Ultron, probably

[@comixproviderftw_02]

1:45-2:16 Damn… Now you got me curious

[@loganthomas2421]

My second favorite Avengers run behind Bendis’ New Avengers. Hope to see more of these on backissues

[@unodestosdiaz2998]

I got this story in an oversized spanish bargain trade paperback for $3.95 in a book fair in Panamá, with a weird cover from (in the time of publication) popular artist Adi Granov, with half of the roster on it not appearing in the comic, I printed I high quality version os de Busiek/Perez 25th issue and pasted over it. One of my most appreciated books in the collection. Saludos.

[@aidanalvarez5486]

16:55 Triathlon is 3X fast? I didn’t know marvel owned the rights for Char Aznable from Gundam 😉

[@antgue756]

God i love back issues. Best discussion show on youtube hands down.

[@codystahl5935]

BENNNNNN! YES! "ARE THESE THEY?" LOL My wife and I reference that line in as many situations as we can!

[@barraki6706]

I’ve been waiting for you to cover a story from Kurt Busiek’s Avengers for years now!

[@rayfarr2115]

AGGHHH THAT YELLOW LANTERN LOOKS SO COOL ON YOUR SHELF!!! :)

[@christianmiller5456]

Have you guys covered Grant Morrison's Animal Man run? I'd like to see where you stand on that one if the opportunity arises.

[@soup2458]

I’ve been wanting this for so long! They’ll probably need to do a couple parts on it so the finale works as well

[@johnnieriot13]

I think they’re not Morrison fans. They tend to shit on just about everything he does. I love Morrison. Which I respect everyones opinion, if I agree or not but I’m in the camp that he wrote the best Batman run, JLA run (which I think everyone thinks that) X-men run, ect. but his vertigo work is just amazing and would love to see more on this channel

[@christianmiller5456]

@@johnnieriot13 Maybe not, but they've definitely covered worse runs on this channel over the years. Whichever way Sal views this one in particular, I'm here for it. I think even if they don't like it, it would make for an interesting conversation.

[@johnnieriot13]

@@christianmiller5456 yeah, that’s a good point. They do tend to do books they don’t like. So maybe there is hope. I love his animal man run. Some would say the end is pretentious but I think it puts a beautiful bow on it. Perfect ending

[@Codeman1930]

@@johnnieriot13 from what I can recall Sal actually really likes the Animal man run by Grant and enjoys Grant’s run on JLA. If you watch the electric blue Superman episode I think he talks about the latter.

[@Heims511]

Almost done with the workday moonknight is out tonight and a new back issues!!!! “cue Good Day Ice Cube”

[@Mr_Hutt]

Y'all always kill it with back issues!!

[@LegendOfTheBat]

The end conversation about the frustrating Epic Collection printing was cathartic to hear. Great idea about the Image movie too!

[@flywheelshyster6549]

Loving this already and just started, there is no better show on youtube nor the silver screen!

[@ChristopherZubin]

NFL Superpro is a great warrior who deserves your respect!

[@antdujar]

One of the best. Comic pop, may you never change! That is, unless for the better, other than that, fantastic episode! @43:45 had me rolling😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭

[@ATroknya]

Slorenia you say? That country where the former sidekick of the Black Knight, who went insane by Ebony Blade shenanigans, became a soul consuming giant and is bound within its borders for all-time? Sick.

[@comicpop]

Yeah, that's... that's the one.

[@chrisbatman8619]

dude this episode is so damn good! I couldn't breath after the war machine bit...."maybe Ill join....Never the *&%$ mind" haha

[@comicpop]

Buy the paperback of Avengers: Ultron Unlimited! amzn.to/3JvNUZa

[@jeancifuentes4324]

Hey Sal, would you ever do “Something is Killing the Children”? Or at the very least, could Tiffany cover it? I would love to see you guys cover it

[@thats_not_glue]

@@jeancifuentes4324 I have no idea what that is, but that sounds like a cool episode

[@brianadkins3880]

@@thats_not_glue It's a horror comic book from BOOM!

[@enrajbroin]

47:20 that's probably why she was named Jocasta, the name of Oedipus' mother-wife

[@yabbadabbindude]

Awesome episode thank you

[@samgilley3160]

Hearing Sal rant about the state of Marvel Epic Collections is so cathartic. As a new comic fan trying to get copies of these stories is infuriating.

[@thetruebeliever6541]

This is my favorite story!!! best Avengers/ Ultron story.

[@brianadkins3880]

Much like when the Justice League of America started, the Avengers were indeed a team of B listers or lower. But some of those characters and their stories can be the most interesting and exciting. Sometimes, it's due to being able to give them the type of character development they can't give the more popular ones due to them having that in their own monthly titles. And Vision is a synthezoid! lol

[@architeuthis3476]

1:44 I can't wait to see the review of this one! (any hints on what it is?)

[@architeuthis3476]

I'm thinking its either Rob Leifeld or Frank Miller

[@barraki6706]

(40:28) Imagine if that actually happened! Ultron: NOW GO! Army: *Yes, my queen!* Ultron: *groan* I do wish they wouldn’t call me that.

[@bensneb360]

20:25-20:28: I feel like every Marvel hero goes threw a costume phase like this at some time or another

[@Chalk0073]

Oh man Cap's energy shield.🤣🤪

[@thekidry5551]

This was my favorite episode of you guys 😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@rayfarr2115]

GREAT VIDEO GUYS!!!

[@aegis9109]

13:37, I spat out my coffee 😂

[@Plyrrrr]

Shout-out to that Venture Bros clip

[@andrewfoerster6864]

Miles teller for Todd MacFarlane

[@mttylerdurden9]

Me:(Humming FIGHT AS ONE song)

[@Codeman1930]

That show was perhaps the most essential part of my childhood with superheroes. I love that song.

[@ninja1man4u]

Sweet!! New back issues!

[@donkyoofficial]

The Prequel quotes get me everytime

[@Subject_Keter]

Bruh i almost hurt myself at 43:40 lol

[@samslash9]

If we are stunt acting this, I'd say Leo dicaprio plays rob leifeld and miles teller plays todd MacFarlane

[@Gertie_13]

Are these they with the cut to “Who talks like that?” Had me laughing so hard I had to pause the video

[@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt]

its captured wonderfully in avengers emh

[@hsatin20]

RIP George Perez. It was wonderful to hear you talk so great about him. I do not feel like he gets the props he deserves.

[@comicpop]

We met him a few years ago and he was so awesome.

[@TheBaxHead]

yes! more Ultron!!!

[@TheVegeta67]

Nothing is weirder than actually reading the comics dealing with the aftermath of Hank slapping Janet and seeing that the comic did treat it like abuse. They even had Janet wear sunglasses to hide her bruised eye. And at the end, neither have interest in getting back together outside of them going maybe.

[@Three_Tiny_Robots]

Janet Van Dyne, famous internation fashion designer, is gonna be pissed when she hears you boys talkin smack about the costume she designed for Firestar! 😂

[@willcrouch2359]

Well thanks to you I now know about the legendary NFL Super Pro. Thanks I guess lol

[@seanberrodin801]

47:21 I mean she wouldn't be the first Jocasta to participate in an incestuous relationship with their son. Little Oedipus reference for you there you're welcome.

[@ericsanty]

So 33:00 Ethan ask how the Avengers didn’t notice the destruction of a country and I all I can think is “it wouldn’t be the last time either” (Genosha only happens a few years later)

[@brianadkins3880]

Wasn't the first time it was destroyed back in the 80's?

[@thelittlehomie658]

5:19 THAT EXPLAINS GRIFTER BEING INVOLVED IN MOST DC-RELATED PROPERTIES!

[@granaff]

I feel like Back Issues has just become better and better. It's like The Wire of youtube shows.

[@granaff]

And the scriptwriters and actors are just so talented...😅

[@brendanobrien8198]

“And you’re probably asking, was hiring all these artist smart? Absolutely Fucking Not.”

[@PhsycoRed]

The Day JLA/Avengers get's revisited. Imma poop my pants !

[@diegoyerse593]

Another fucking Banger Fellas! Good work as always. great end to a wednesday every wednesday!

[@DarcyDeee]

so hyped for the fabled bad art book

[@Beliasa01]

The only artists I can think of, he may be referring to, are either chuck austin or Igor Kordey 🤔

[@theotakuguy2571]

6:30 😂

[@JLD22591]

Sounds like you guys want to see a story with Ultron-Voltron. I would read that. Since it would likely be made up of five ultrons you could call it V-Ultron.

[@YouCalledForTheDoc]

I think technically Annihilation Conquest had a massive Ultron made from phalanx, cyborg kree and kree sentinels fused with Ultron

[@sethbennedetti753]

God yes more avengers content. We uh... ever gettin that New Avengers Vol. 3??

[@OreoBrawl]

…ohhhhhh so thats why she’s called Jocasta

[@sangera]

Ultron's bride's name being Jocasta is wild.

[@loganreiter1391]

A Thomas Riker reference! Nice.

[@dakenscholz3585]

Miss the intro, can’t wait to watch the episode!

[@comicpop]

It's at the end!

[@JohnClark-tt2bl]

Wait a minute, Ultron....Voltron........an UltraVoltron?

[@manuelrosas5889]

Another funny hilarious video Guys Man I really shows what age of Ultron can have Ben. But I just want to know something when are you gonna do the beta ray bill series 2021 if you’re too busy I totally understand I’ll just wait patiently.

[@captainawsomeist]

I think that the Avengers are a cool idea, but I prefer the FF, Spider-Man or JLA! But I love your videos, guys!

[@Ducaso]

6:00 Damn I forgot about him too smh