The Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America Explained in 2 Minutes

[@Robert_Sparkman_03]

I love these two minute explanations.

[@ronlanter6906]

I love singing Psalms, especially when I'm listening to *Sons of Korah* I recently learned that there is a *Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America* near where I live and look forward to worshiping with them soon, as a visitor.

[@PeterMolenaar-s5x]

You should do a video on the URCNA and on the Canadian reformed church. Great content

[@mattosamanandesu]

It's cool to see my small denomination covered here! If someone asks about us, I can send them this video 👍

[@gabrielesimion3074]

some time ago: I found an ordination prayer by your brothers of Reformed presbyterian Church of ireland: very cool and deep

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

Several Psalms say to praise the Lord with psaltry and harp, an instrument of ten strings, tambourines, and so on. How do you reconcile these against your doctrine against them?

[@mattosamanandesu]

@@joshuakarr-BibleMan The same Psalms say to offer burnt sacrifices, bulls, and goats. It's common knowledge that these things are done away with, along with the Levitical priesthood. Are you aware of who was supposed to play those instruments during temple worship? It was a specific family of the Levites who were assigned to be temple musicians. Not just any talented Hebrew could play. Also, are you aware that the instruments themselves were specific? Not just any instrument could be played, but specifically those God commanded to be used. I see neither temple musicians nor temple instruments in churches. So, unless you want to reinstate the Levitical priesthood, you ought not add "strange fire" to the worship of the Lord. (Deut 12:32) (Numbers 10:8; 1 Chron. 15:16, 25:1-7; 2 Chron. 5:11-14, 29:25-26)

[@astutik8909]

Thats pushing it a bit far tho. The same levitical priesthood ordained the singers as well??? People seem utterly confused by " under the law" and under grace. Keep 9 commandments but not the sabbath. Keep Jesus 2 greatest commandments, which comes from the same law of Moses, but not other commands???? ​@@mattosamanandesu

[@mattosamanandesu]

@@astutik8909 There are positive New Testament commands for singing (Eph. 5:19; Col. 3:16). There are NO positive New Testament commands for playing temple instruments (much less all the other musical implementations we see today). Acapella praise is also the practice of the Eastern Church (Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian Church of the East, etc.) since ancient times. The New Testament church practiced acapella psalmody as a continuation of how synagogue worship was conducted in lieu of a temple and priests. Instruments in Christian worship were a Roman Church innovation and only gained prominence in Protestantism in the 18th century. God alone gets to regulate how He is to be worshipped. Man's innovation is brazen disregard of God's regulations. We disobey Him when we go further than what He has commanded. There is a purity and simplicity to obedience; none of the fanfare and chaos of innovation. The serpent's lie began as: "Has God said?" Our response is, unapologetically: "Yes, He has."

[@PastorPaulFlynn]

The RP denomination is really born out of rejection of the 1690 Revolution Church of Scotland. Roughly 7000 remained outside the Kirk, initially without any ordained leaders, eventually forming the Reformed Presbytery in 1743. There's also the RP Testimony, quite a lengthy document which details what lense through which the Westminster Confession of Faith is viewed, as they don't completely line up with the WCF in all points. Many within the RPCNA are also extremely pro-manmade holy days, viewing such departures as adiaphora.

[@Labor4Reformation]

Indeed it is very sad to see these sorts of departures from our covenant forefathers. Popish ceremonies are running rampant within many reformed churches.

[@mattosamanandesu]

There is a remnant who are far more conservative. Doctrinal drift is the perennial issue of the church, regardless of denomination.

[@jakimo]

I previously attended an RPCNA for a few years and agree inwardly with their book of church order. On man-made (or traditional) holidays, there are minutes and decisions against the honoring of ‘holidays’ that aren’t biblical (the Lord’s day stands alone, basically) Well because of the denominations history I had a good argument to ask that a visiting pastor wouldn’t continue to preach a series based on and because of Easter. The elder (session agreeing) shot my thoughts down without considering the considerable citations I gave In other denominations that haven’t decided this way, I would not bother with an argument. In this case, it’s a slide away from their own courts, and a loss for sure So yah, many reformed churches have gradually loosened up from the strong biblical convictions of their pasts. It’s tough, but we keep up our efforts to stay tighter and grow closer to what God speaks!

[@JimmySonny]

Could you do a video on the Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland, please? Love your channel and I'm glad to see you've gone well over 100k.

[@yanishameesh7965]

There is no truth in prespetarian repent and accept Jesus as ur savior and go to a Christian church

[@idhalverson]

Thanks for covering Reformed Presbyterianism. I am not RPCNA, but I am so grateful to be a part of a Psalm-singing Reformed Presbyterian church.

[@Hark1677]

Of which do you belong?

[@idhalverson]

@@Hark1677 Free Church of Scotland Continuing, US Presbytery (my congregation is in North Carolina)

[@Hark1677]

@@idhalversonRight on. The St.Louis congregation was probably the closest reformed church to me when I lived there.

[@Saratogan]

One wonders what the "hymns and spiritual songs" are in Paul's instruction to the the Ephesians and Colossians: "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." The Psalter is only 1/3rd of this.

[@NikoFinn]

Right! A very good point, Saratogan! Spiritual songs does not exclusively mean hymnals or old traditional christian songs. Many, many modern christian songs are amazing, God-honoring and insstrumental use is fantastic

[@hewziheng4587]

I'm not an exclusive psalmodist, but I understand that their argument is that "psalms, hymns and songs" refer to the Psalm inscriptions. E.g. Psalm 48 is identified as both a "song" and a "psalm"

[@Saratogan]

@@NikoFinn , unfortunately, many of the modern churches have gone the other way and wouldn't know a psalm if it were presented to them to sing. It is all 3: psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.

[@Saratogan]

@@hewziheng4587 , so redundancy is their interpretation of Paul's instruction? Seems like weak tea to me.

[@hewziheng4587]

​@@Saratogan Seems more an issue of the sufficiency of Scripture rather than redundancy. Hey in a world where Scripture is not deemed sufficient, I can respect them for holding strongly to that

[@BramptonAnglican]

Thanks for the great video. I was curious about this church.

[@plagueranger3143]

When I was a kid that I was in a Presbyterian Church that in Sunday School that they brought up the three wise men on them being astrologers.

[@djungellars]

‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬ "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." I think its a defeater of the theological opinion that the new testament teaches use only psalms in worship.

[@innovationhq8230]

It's certianly not a defeater at all to Exclusive Psalmody. John Gill correctly explains Psalms Hymns and Spirtual songs. Speaking to yourselves in psalms, and hymns, and spiritual songs,.... By psalms are meant the Psalms of David, and others which compose the book that goes by that name, for other psalms there are none; and by "hymns" we are to understand, not such as are made by good men, without the inspiration of the Spirit of God; since they are placed between psalms and spiritual songs, made by men inspired by the Holy Ghost; and are put upon a level with them, and to be sung along with them, to the edification of churches; but these are only another name for the Book of Psalms, the running title of which may as well be the Book of Hymns, as it is rendered by Ainsworth; and the psalm which our Lord sung with his disciples after the supper, is called an hymn; and so are the psalms in general called hymns, by Philo the Jew (n); and songs and hymns by Josephus (o); and , "songs and praises", or "hymns", in the Talmud (p): and by "spiritual songs" are meant the same Psalms of David, Asaph, &c. and the titles of many of them are songs, and sometimes a psalm and song, and song and psalm, a song of degrees; together with all other Scriptural songs, written by inspired men; and which are called "spiritual", because they are indited by the Spirit of God, consist of spiritual matter, and are designed for spiritual edification; and are opposed to all profane, loose, and wanton songs: these three words answer to the several titles of David's Psalms; from whence it seems to be the intention of the apostle, that these should be sting in Gospel churches; for so he explains speaking to themselves in them, in the next clause:

[@leahunverferth8247]

This is actually a very strong verse in support of exclusive Psalmody if you can overcome modern notions of what a "hymn" is and rather let the Bible inform.

[@meadowgeorge6657]

I also love these explanations!!! Thank you for your work!!!

[@shibenews8416]

saying "reformed Presbyterian" is like saying "wet water"

[@packersstink8519]

do a video on the sspx

[@dancahill9585]

The main thing I'd like to see added to this is to hear how many people are part of these Denominations. As far as I can tell, the RPCNA has about 7,000 members.

[@gabrielesimion3074]

bt these are the 'communicants': people could partecipate in their worship and activities and not be counted as member to not be bound by chrch discipline

[@GermanShepherd1983]

@@gabrielesimion3074 In a Reformed or Presbyterian church the only participating you will be doing is listening to the sermon and throwing money into the plate. And you won't be going to communion or any other activity. You have to be a member for anything else

[@royjohnson465]

@@GermanShepherd1983 ~ only members can go to communion. Sounds like a cult practice..

[@Apriluser]

@@royjohnson465 Lots of Christian traditions have those restrictions.

[@royjohnson465]

@@Apriluser ~ I was in regular longtime attendance at two different denominations, and both of them would allow “anybody” that was sitting on the church bench or chair to take communion.

[@Iktius]

Im not rpcna, but respect very much their tenets! 👏

[@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj]

Thank you,Joshua🌹⭐🌞⭐🌹

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

I don't understand the thinking behind no-music churches. How many Psalms say directly to praise the Lord with harps, psaltries, cymbals, tambourines, and so on?

[@astutik8909]

It seems way over the top. Its obvious from the very psalms they claim to sing. Thats what is mindboggling.

[@oracleoftroy]

Yeah. As one who agrees with the regulative principle, I see this version of it as a violation of what God commands in worship and thus a violation of the regulative principle they claim to uphold. It doesn't take all that much digging to see that the psalms were sung set to music played on every type of instrument, and that we are to sing new songs, as well as psalms, hymns and songs to our God.

[@innovationhq8230]

The Psalms also say to sing to God on beds with two edged sword in hand. The Psalms speak of many things under the old covenant cermonial administration that are not be practiced in the new covenant worship. Psalms 149:5-6 5Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. 6Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

@@innovationhq8230 If you don't see that two-edged sword as the word of God, then you must see it as the sword Jesus commanded His Apostles to carry. Two are enough. That may have been two for every twelve men, or two for every eleven true believers, or maybe some of those guys had dual wielding. God saying ine rule about worship, or a stance of heart to hold in worship (maybe, don't abandon God even under pain of death, but die fighting to keep worshiping Him,) doesn't negate another rule for worship. Your argument is like saying, because the Tabernacle had curtains, they should abandon making gilded boards for its walls. Your argument about separate covenants simply falls flat. It is nonstarter. Nowbere in Scripture does God say, "So from now on, I want no instruments." Indeed, there is no evidence in Scripture to suggest first century believers didn't use harps and psaltries and the rest. They were still Jews, still raised in amd trained in corporate worship like all the generations before them. Want to know my opinion on Sabbath?

[@astutik8909]

@@innovationhq8230 What is wrong with an instrument???? Can you clap??? Or is that an abuse of your hands??

[@nickpass]

I like the new icons, they're great!

[@alicegriffin8545]

Are women permitted to participate in The Lord's Supper as there is no example in Scripture of that being the case?

[@arkansasrebel348]

In my non-denominational church, both men and women serve the Lord’s Supper (Communion).

[@arkansasrebel348]

People in our church have come from different denominational backgrounds. I would say that most people at our church are from the Church of Christ and Southern Baptist. We also have ones that have come from Methodist, Lutheran, General Baptist, and others.

[@innovationhq8230]

Acts 2:43-47 KJV And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. And all that believed were together, and had all things common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. This text clearly implies that women particpated in the breaking of bread/Lord's supper.

[@ErwinOrwell]

Please do a video on differences between Eastern Orthodoxs and Eastern Catholics!

[@iagoofdraiggwyn98]

Would be a pretty short video. It really is just the Pope.

[@ElasticGiraffe]

Commemoration of the Roman Pope is the biggest thing. Eastern Catholics are much closer in theological orientation to the Orthodox than they are to Latins, formally affirming the post-schism Roman dogmas but variously either putting an Eastern spin on them or seeing them as applying more within the Latin-Augustinian paradigm.

[@ErwinOrwell]

@@iagoofdraiggwyn98 It is actually a very complex issue, as there is an ongoing wat between Traditionalists and Latinists, and the variety of differing views is great.

[@MatthewFearnley]

Is this the denomination that Rosaria Butterfield is a part of?

[@leahunverferth8247]

Yes

[@Hark1677]

Another Exclusive Psalmody church. As a Reformed Baptist we sing Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs.

[@schs1977]

What is the difference between a hymn and a spiritual song?

[@Hark1677]

@@schs1977 Any song of praise to God that is not in the Psalms.

[@tomsmith48]

I've encountered one or two independent reformed Baptist churches in this part of the world that are exclusive psalmody, but it does seem much less common than amongst Presbyterian denominations.

[@Hark1677]

@@tomsmith48reformed baptist churches are congregational, so the church themselves can decide if they want to go EP. I haven’t seen any in the US. The only one I know of is in Ireland.

[@tomsmith48]

@@Hark1677 In the UK I know a few, but as you say the governance is at the individual church level.

[@marcodesalud7034]

Correction they only sing paraphrases of the psalms not the actual psalms themselves....

[@leahunverferth8247]

I would definitely not say only. The Book of Psalms for Worship is worse than the Book of Psalms for Singing but it's still not only a paraphrase.

[@yikes2180]

Exactly! If they really want to sing the actual "inspired" songbook of God (as they call it), they must sing them in the actual Hebrew language. 😅 These psalms are paraphrased and put into a meter to be sung in the English language. I am a proponent of singing these paraphrased psalms but not exclusively.

[@thetraditionalist]

interesting video

[@CultureDweeb]

Most of these practices I can get behind, but affirming those five points of Calvinist is where I draw lines in the sand of division 😤

[@sdnlawrence5640]

And yet there are musical instruments used throuhout the Bible...

[@leahunverferth8247]

Yes, but if you study their Old Testament use in worship (they have civil uses) they're always connected to ceremonial worship which is done away with in Christ. They are tied to a specific time (sacrifices) with specific instruments played by specific people. So when you read in the Psalms about everyone playing an instrument even then it wasn't literal but an expression of joyful worship. We're told in the New Testament we "pluck" the strings of our heart (Eph. 5:19).

[@knightshade2654]

This sounds like Redeemed Zoomer's ideal church (aside from its stance on creation and evolution).

[@SantaFe19484]

Seeking to establish "Christian civil government" i.e. a theocracy is not biblical. Jesus never gave such a command to his apostles. Since they oppose any practice with no command or example in the New Testament, they are hypocrites.

[@leahunverferth8247]

Not true, friend. Doesn't the Bible command that we should have no other gods before him? Does this command apply to individuals but then cease to apply when those individuals form a group (a nation)? The fact is there is always an established religion - there is always a god being worshipped. The question for us Christians is do we believe idolatry is acceptable nationally or do we believe obedience should be given to the true God?

[@Mic1904]

_"Since they oppose any practice with no command or example in the New Testament, they are hypocrites"_ Factually incorrect statement regarding their position and beliefs.

[@simeonyves5940]

As one who, as we all know, leans Very Presbyterian indeed for a Reformed Episcolian, lets see what grounds I have with this Group, and where I do not.. 1. No Instruments- Partial Agreement, when it comes to the Old Testament Psalms (although I do not Practice Exclusive Psalmody, I am open to it) they should indeed be Unaccompanied, but, as one who Permits Some Hymns, I do permit them to be accompanied by a Single Mechanical Piano or Mechanical Organ (no Electric, I associate that with "pentecostalism" and thus with the Practicing of Voodoo!) However. 2., Exclusive Psalmody- Partial Disagreement, although I Forbid Non-Reformed Hymns, and post 1928 contemporary "christian" music, as the Strange Fire Sin of Nadab and Abihu, I do Permit Pre 1928 Reformed Hymns, such as Amazing Grace, Rock of Ages, How Great thou Art, Holy Holy Holy, The Old Rugged Cross, et al. However, I am open to Exclusive Psalmody. 3. Regulative Principle of Worship- Total Agreement, but under a Modified Variant. I consider it Vital for Good Order and Holiness in the Church, and for the Avoidance of the Strange Fire Sin of Nadab and Abihu, that the Regulative Principle of Worship is Observed and Enforced, I view the "normative principle" as Damnable Heresy! , and Hold to the Regulative Principle, However, I hold to the 1662-1928 Version of the Regulative Principle rather than the 1648-1660 Version adhered to by the RPCNA. 4. No Images used in Worship- Total Agreement! Use of Images of the Christ in Worship is Iconodualism, is a Sin of Rome, and is utterly Unlawful for it is a Second Commandment Violation. 5. Traditional Protestant Beliefs- Total Agreement, as Stated Yesterday, all in Disagreement with the Protestant Fundamentals are Non-Christians as per the Athanasian Creed which Declares all who defy those Fundamentals, essentially, Anathema! 6. Five Point Calvinism- Total Agreement, Again, as Stated Yesterday, I am a Five Point Calvinist myself and know, for a Fact, that the Five Points of Grace are Simply just an Easily Digestible Summary of the Gospel of the Bible! "Calvinism, is the gospel, and nothing else!"- Charles Spurgeon. J.C. Ryle would have agreed with that most Strongly as well. 7. Infant Baptism- Agreement. Now fully Open to Infant Baptism as Sacrament and now accept my own, as it was Trinitarian, thanks to my Dear Brother in the LORD, "Mic1904". Shoutout! :) 8. Spiritual Presence of Christ in the Lords Supper.- Disagreement, although I do hold to it as a Sacrament, as per the 1646 Westminster Confession, I hold to it as Purely being in Remembrance of Christ, as Per the Holy Scriptures. "And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also took he the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me" -1st Corinthians Chapter 11 Verses 24 and 25. 9. Covenantal Contact- Unsure... I have never seen that at any other church, it seems unique to them, and, given it is Extra Biblical, it does Strike me as Legalism, so I believe they need to Repent on that one! 10. Christian Government- Full and Total Agreement! I fee the only way to Prevent Total National Apostasy, and complete Global Domination for the false "religion of peace" is to Bring about a Second Puritan Reformation, a Long Parliament, and a Reformed Christian National Government in total Submission and Service of God! 11. Opposition of Evilution- Total Agreement. As Stated Yesterday, Evilution is a Lie of Satan and of Hell! it is a Heresy, it is worshipping the Creation and not the Creator. 12. Six Day Creation- Total Agreement, As Stated Yesterday, I am Six Day Young Earth Creationist Myself, for that is what is Stated in Scripture, Scripture (66 Book Canon) is Inspired by God, and God Cannot Lie! 13. Complementarianism, -Total Agreement, the Scripture tells us Clearly that the Man is the Head of the woman, in the same way Christ is the Head of the Church, woman complements man, she is not above, nor equal, to him. Egalitarianism is Damnable Heresy and has no Place in the Church! 14. Women Deacons- Red Flag! Total Disagreement! The Bible clearly states that a Deacon must be a Man! women deacons, like women preachers, are a mark of Apostasy! they mean the church is in Open Rebellion against God and is Apostate and Ichabod, they are a sign the church is fallen, and any church with a woman in hierarchy is to be fled from Immediately! The Clergy should fight against the ordination of women so fervently that the only way a woman would ever be ordained in their Church is over their Quite Literal Dead Body! it is a Hill to Die On! A woman cannot be a Deacon! a woman has no Authority in Church what so ever! the Church needs to Repent and Defrock them Immediately for they are in Rebellion against God! Women are to keep Silence in Church and are not to Speak as Per 1st Corinthians Chapter 14 and 1st Timothy Chapter 2 ! they cannot be Deacons as a Result! they may only speak after the Service, during Tea and Cakes, in the Church hall, if their Husbands Permit, or when the Pastor or Elder has Permitted them to Speak to give Communion Vow, or Join Communal Prayer, Psalmody and Hymns. The Positions of Lay Reader, Pastor/Vicar, Deacon, Elder and Presbyter/Bishop are Purely for Baptised, Heterosexual, Confirmed Reformed, MEN of Good Repute, who live their lives as closely as Possible to the New Testament Scriptures as Is Possible for a Sinner saved by the Grace of Christ, as Per 1st Timothy, the Epistle to Titus, and the 1662 Book of Common Prayer! 16. Mandatory Tithing- Red Flag ! Total Disagreement! Mandatory Tithing is Forcing the Passed Away Laws of Moses unto Gentiles, it is a Total Breach of Acts Chapter 15, Colossians 2, all Five Chapters of the Epistle to the Galatians and Chapter 19 of the 1646 Westminster Confession! , it is Judaizing and is Damnable Heresy! the 10% should be Optional as Wilful Giving, and Exceedable if the Giver so Wishes! 17. . Ban on being in Secret Societies- Total Agreement, most Secret Societies are Satanic and Pagan, and Involve Witchcraft, Black Magic, and Unholy Ritual! Christians should not be Members. 18. Ban on Gambling- Agreed. I am of the View that Gambling is Sinful! an Evil, Secular, Practice, it is Unclean! 19. Ban on Astrology- Agreed, the Consulting of the Heavenly Bodies is Unlawful, Sinful, Heathenistic, Pagan and Idolatrous, it is Divination, it is Witchcraft, is Declared, as Witchcraft, as Abomination in both the Old (Leviticus, Dueteronomy) and New (1st Corinthians, Galatians) Testaments! 20. To ban or not to ban Alcohol- Disputable Issue as Per Romans Chapter 14 Verse 14. I however View the Imbibing of Alcohol as Unclean, so for me, it is Unclean. 21. Lords Day as Sabbath- Partial Agreement. Yes, the Lords Day is the Christian Sabbath as per the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith, However, to Force the Old Testament Sabbath Laws, such as no working, nor making others work unto Gentiles is Judaizing and is Heresy! 22. Ban on Christmas and Easter.- Disagreement:, as Stated Yesterday I consider that as Extra-Biblical Legalism in Defiance of Colossians 2 which states we are not to allow any one to judge us on Holy Days. They need to Repent. 23. Presbyterian Polity- Partial Agreement, as Stated, although I am a Reformed Episcolian, I lean very Strongly Presbyterian. 24 Marriage- Total Agreement! Scripture not only States that Marriage is only between One Man and One Woman, meaning all other forms of Marriage are unlawful unto God, but there is also further Clarification in the 1646 Westminster Confession that it may only between One Reformed Man and One Reformed Woman, a Christian cannot marry a Non Believer, nor anyone from a False Religion, nor anyone from a Counterfeit form of "christianity" such as the Wesleyans, the Arminians, the Charismatics, the Papacy, etc etc. 25. Opposition of Abortion- Total Agreement, Life Begins at Conception, and Abortion is therefore Murder and should be legally Classified, and Treated, as Murder, without Exception! it is Unlawful and is a Breach of the Sixth Commandment. Sadly, due to the Red Flags of Women Deacons and Mandatory Tithing I have no Choice, despite a Huge amount of common Ground, to view them as at Extreme Risk of Apostasy !! They need to Repent, Defrock all women Deacons Immediately and Replace Mandatory Tithing with Optional Wilful Giving and return to the Clear Guidance on those Matters found in Scripture and in the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith.

[@astutik8909]

If the Sabbath is " judaizing" , then so is keeping the other 9 commandments. In fact, what were the 2 commandments that Jesus said were the greatest??? And where was Jesus quoting that from???

[@simeonyves5940]

@@astutik8909 Forcing the Old Testament Mosaic Law is Judaizing, for we take our Eternal Sabbath from the Mosaic Law in Christ. We Obey the Fourth Commandment (Still Active and Binding, Eternally) In Christ! Yes, the Ten Commandments are Active and Eternally Binding as per the 39 Articles 1571 and the 1646 Westminster Confession, but the Mosaic Law, such as "No work what so ever, nor causing anyone else to work, on the Sabbath," came *after* the Ten Commandments, and it is Abrogated in Christ as Per Colossians Chapter 2 , Romans Chapter 10 and Galatians Chapter 4! It is not Having Sunday as the Christian Sabbath that is Judaizing, the Sabbath, a Day put aside for Worship and for Rest, is Vital, and is one of the Active, Eternally Binding Commandments! It is the Forcing of the Mosaic "No work, nor making anyone else work" Law that is Judaizing. I do hope that clears things up! I have also edited the Post to make it more clear I am talking about the Abrogated "no work" command, and not the Eternally Binding Sabbath Command. Love and Peace.

[@astutik8909]

​@@simeonyves5940 This is where you get your non sabbath from. COUNCIL OF LAODICEA ( canon 29) " Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honoring the Lord's day; and if they can resting then as christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ". Wow, actually told to work on the Sabbath???? BTW, the Lords day is the Sabbath. Not SUNday. COUNCIL OF TRENT the Roman catholic church says " the church of God has thought it well to TRANSFER the celebration and observance of the Sabbath to Sunday" ( catechism of the council of trent, page 402). Jesus kept Sabbath. The Apostles kept Sabbath. The resurrection is not the Sabbath.

[@Hark1677]

Based! Are you in the REC or ACNA?

[@simeonyves5940]

@@Hark1677 In Fellowship with REC via the Evangelical Connexion, which is a Splinter off from the Free Church of England as the Evangelical Connexion did not want to Fellowship with Gafcon (over Gafcon permitting women preachers, although the FCofE does not Permit women preachers either as women preachers are against the Canons of the Church, the only way a woman will ever be ordained in the FCofE is over several quite literal dead bodies! "a woman will only be ordained in the Free Church of England over my, literal, dead body"- Brett Murphy.) and wanted to remain "Low to No" on Liturgy (while the FCofE has adopted High Liturgy under the 1662 Book of Common Prayer) as per the Reformed Roots of the Church as they consider themselves under the Episcopacy of J.C. Ryle. Hope that Helps :) Gods Blessings, Love and Peace.

[@BibleNutter]

I'm under the impression that most Christians aren't Christians. I believe the trinity, salvation being a free gift through faith, and salvation can't be lost once you have it; are essential to even be a Christian, and most denominations don't believe this.

[@toddbu-WK7L]

Having spent nearly 60 years in Reformed churches, I recently left one with no plans to ever return. It has been my experience that anytime anyone talks about the regulative principle of worship, be extremely skeptical. Many elders in elder-run churches are unfamiliar with the Gospel, instead running their churches according to their creeds and church orders rather than Scripture. Let me cite just a few examples if I may please: 1. Communion - while I believe in "fencing the table", there is no place in the Bible that supports the notion of elders examining participants in advance to see if they are "qualified" to participate. Even Paul was unwilling to do that 2. Sabbath - worship on Sunday is good, but Sunday as a "Sabbath rest" is non-Biblical. This is a secular notion 3. Christ as Head of His Church - I literally had an elder tell me once that he was accountable to Presbytery with no mention of Jesus. Neither did the elder who was with him speak up. The only evidence for Presbytery is Acts 15, but that evidence is weak at best. Paul and Barnabas were seeking advice, not outside control 4. Priesthood of All Believers - A core tenant of the Reformation, yet some elders attempt to exercise complete control over their congregations and insert themselves between the Christian and their Savior. I've seen an elder cite Hebrews 13:17 and chastise an entire congregation for not keeping their membership vows when that same group of elders was not in keeping with Hebrews 13:7 5. Unity of the Body of Christ - This is a clear teaching of Scripture, yet Reformed churches in general do more to separate the Body than nearly any other denomination through their insistence on adherence to their teachings. If any church leader starts talking about "being in communion" with another Christian denomination then run for the hills! 1 John 4 makes it clear that ANYONE who confesses that Jesus is God in the flesh, come to save us from our sins, is indeed sent from God. Don't believe otherwise I could go on. In general, however, I have seen practices in churches that exercise the regulative principle of worship that appear to be cultish in some regard. I deeply believe that Reformed theology accurately describes how God relates to mankind in salvation, and for the most part I would say that I believe in the regulative principle of worship. It's just that despite claims to the contrary, the Bible is secondary to the documents of man in these churches. I was kicked out of my last church not because I was shown that my beliefs were contrary to Scripture, but because they were contrary to the Church Order. Sola Scriptura indeed. 😞

[@idhalverson]

Sola Scriptura doesn't mean you can be in rebellion to your church elders and BCO. And the elders don't need to defend every established point of doctrine to each congregant with a chip on their shoulder. Maybe you had a genuinely bad experience, but just so you know this comes off a bit whiny and it sounds like you just don't like authority structures.

[@GermanShepherd1983]

You nailed it. As I've said in previous videos I left a far right Reformed church because of the way elders and ministers, especially those that held Classis or Synod positions insisted on controlling what the local churches did. And yes talk about hypocrites, I once saw a minister kick a man out of our church over adultery, yet a few years later this ministers unmarried daughter got pregnant on a one night stand and he insisted that no one could discipline her since we're all sinners. She kept the baby too, didn't even give her up for adoption.

[@astutik8909]

​@@MichaelTheophilus906 Sad but true.

[@innovationhq8230]

@@GermanShepherd1983 What type of reformed church?

[@GermanShepherd1983]

@@innovationhq8230 Reformed Church in the US

[@jirunjak]

Ah, the crazy part of the Reformed tradition that consider celebrating the incarnation of the one true Logos is actually blasphemous.

[@innovationhq8230]

Protestants celebrate incarnation every Lord's day. There is nothing wrong with celebrating the incarnation, There is something wrong with keeping a man made religous holyday without any biblical warrant.

[@leahunverferth8247]

​In addition​ to @@innovationhq8230's excellent comment, I would add you can't actually properly celebrate the birth of Christ if you separate it from his death or any other work of Christ. In other words, we must celebrate the whole work of Christ altogether and not divide it. This is why God gives us the Sabbath day. You're robbing yourself if you think such celebration only comes a few times a year.

[@mikerichards8400]

It is beneficial to know that a group of Presbyterians tries to stick as close to the sacred scriptures according to their present state of knowledge. I pray for the day to come soon, that they will abandon the name "Presbyterian." It is simply not found in the sacred scriptures as a name for a church. That is a denominational name that thrives due to man-made religions and doctrines and traditions. The New Testament clearly teaches us that God's people are designated by God's phrases of ownership and association. Christ promised to build his congregation or group. (Matthew 16:18). Paul specifically mentions the congregations that existed in his day that belonged to Christ Jesus, as "congregations of Christ." (Romans 16:16). They were also designated as "congregations of God". (Acts 20:28; 1 Corinthians 1:2). The modern denominational names (such as Baptist , Methodist, and Presbyterian were not known, used, or authorized to exist in those days, nor in our days. So, if we intend to appeal to the word of the living God, we must put aside all man-made religions and doctrines and go back to the Bible. If we do so our future will be far beyond what we have ever known as ultimate happiness. "If any one speaks, let him speak as the very word of God." (1 Peter 4:11; Colossians 3:17).

[@RonJohn63]

The literal meaning of _congregate_ (con-gregare) is "together flock". IOW, a like-minded group of people together in the same place. Thus, your argument is arrant nonsense.

[@innovationhq8230]

The bible speaks of the presbytery 1 Timothy 4:14 “Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.” Are you againist using the word Trinity because it is not found in the bible?

[@RonJohn63]

Following up on innovation's answer: the Biblical Greek word _presbyteriou_ means "elderhood".

[@RonJohn63]

πρέσβῠς (présbus) means "old man".

[@PokerMonkey]

Every Protestant denomination from coast to coast or from one end of the Earth to the other, is not the Church created by Jesus. See Matt 16:18. He created One Church, His Church is the "pillar and foundation of truth". See 1 Tim 3:15. Also, his Church is the Final Authority (not the Bible Alone, which is an unbiblical heresy). See Matt 18:15-18. In 107AD, St Ignatius, a Bishop in his Church, wrote a letter calling it "Catholic" meaning Universal. The name stuck. His Church has been united in its beliefs from the beginning. When people like Wycliffe, Luther, and Calvin came along, The Church was fractured by their misleading and False teachings, which they had No Authority to teach. Now you have tens of thousands of Protestant (as in Protest), "churches" all believing different doctrines, yet reading the same Bible, which the Catholic Church created and gave to the world. "Bible Alone" is false. "Faith Alone" is false. "Once Saved Always Saved" is false. And there are plenty of other false teachings also.

[@ri3m4nn]

Jesus didn't found any "church."

[@mattt198654321]

Oh brother, a Catholic lecturing us on 'false and misleading teachings' 🙄

[@geordiewishart1683]

Papacy is anti Christ. That's as biblical as the Roman Catholic church gets.

[@innovationhq8230]

Rome is the "church" of antichrist. Jesus did not establish it, and Papists are not truly catholic. The Catholic Church teaches things that are explictly contradictory and that contradict the explict instructions of Jesus Christ.