The Return of the Ultimate Combat Sport | Ancient Greek Pankration

[@AMOPankration]

Hey everyone, I very much appreciate the support you've given. If you’re interested in the content, please consider subscribing, as the vast majority of viewers are unsubscribed, and it helps the channel immensely. Cheers!

[@AMOPankration]

@tatum ergo I have not, do appreciate the suggestions though.

[@ajithsidhu7183]

@@AMOPankration please do one on how did Greeks training for combats and war ,what as the regiment

[@mathauscamelattokruger8837]

Oh no! there's no more videos? Come back! This channel has a great potential!

[@emZee1994]

I'm conflicted on the Olympics idea On one hand I'd love to see Pankration as an Olympic sport as it could work in the same way for MMA that amateur boxing works for boxing On the other hand, the modern Olympics really hates on martial arts, having your art go into the Olympics would be a death sentence as they insure the rules water it down to the point of being useless. I'd support a lot of protective equipment like padding, but I won't support changing the rules greatly. If we see it as amateur MMA then I suppose one can remove all ground strikes (MMA doesn't even have an agreement on what strikes should be permitted and what shouldn't) but all submissions must be permitted and all strikes must be permitted on the feet barring the obviously too dangerous such as eyes, groin, spine, etc. The feet could basically just be MMA rules. Although I'd actually be upset to see headbutts be removed. And the fights must take place without the Gi for sure Tbh ultimately I think Pankration shouldn't be an Olympic sport as it will most likely just be an insult to it's memory. I'd rather see Pankration live on through MMA, which requires people to be educated enough to give it the credit it deserves

[@kosmodomos]

I have the highest hopes that you continue this channel and series my friend. As a Greek and lover of philosophy, martial arts, and my culture as a whole, I am enthusiastic to learn what you have to share with this world! Your works to preserve our people's legacy is something that brings a tear to my eye and it means the world to see it being done with such formalism and detail! Our ancestors smile upon you~

[@AMOPankration]

Thank you very much for the kind words. It is comments like these that made me strive to continue with the series. A new video has been uploaded if you haven't caught it yet - and more are soon to come on a monthly-bimonthly schedule.

[@normanquednau]

The classic greek culture is the cradle of our european civilisation. Aspiring to be a true philosopher, for me life is about gaining wisdom and truly living by it. Sokrates was (for me) the best example for this lifestyle; he even died in order to not bow before opression and he refused to take the easy way out. He asked questions which didnt stop at political correctness. He was about truth. All the best to you! Xaire

[@DPPD1029]

not greek but your culture is so fascinating

[@unwaveringdiscipline5489]

Καλησπέρα και συγγνώμη για την πολύ καθυστερημένη ερώτηση. Υπάρχει κάποια σχολή Παγκρατίου στην Ελλάδα που θα προτείνατε για σκληρές προπονήσεις και ρεαλιστικό πρακτικό sparing; Γνωρίζω ότι δυστυχώς λόγω της οικονομικής κατάστασης στην Ελλάδα οι περισσότερες σχολές τείνουν να μαλθακώνουν τα διδάγματα και τις προπονήσεις για να είναι πιο δελεαστικές προς το ευρύ κοινό και καθώς δεν μπορώ να παραμείνω σε πόλη για καιρό λόγω εποχιακής απασχόλησης διστάζω να επενδύσω χρόνο ψάχνοντας σχολές και δοκιμάζοντας προπονήσεις. Κάθε κατεύθυνση καλοδεχούμενη! Ευχαριστώ!

[@beakfordclakington1337]

when you say lover of philosphy... you are saying... lover of liking wisdom.. as you know. lol God speed anyway

[@Yo_dream.]

As Armenian I am glad twice because first I vas interested in Pancration after my more than 10 years of seeking. And now I have founded the roots of martial arts and I feel the same feelings - the passion to restore this wonderful martial art. And I have been exploring it for several time. After that I was always interested in Greece culture, I was risen on Ancient Greece legends and I studied it with great passion. I also love Greece philosophy : Aristotle, Socrates, Plato etc. And second is a political aspect which I have recently discovered for myself too. Things happened such way that in addition to all this I am Armenian also😀

[@ethanbrake6488]

This sounds so dope! I'm half Greek and the most culture I got to experience has been food(not complaining I love it). I'd love to see more videos of this content!

[@beakfordclakington1337]

maybe you should say greek as meso ellenik is also like total ellenik imo God speed anyway

[@buddybaldur768]

Hey man I just found your channel as an Ancient Greek geek and I have to say it’s AWESOME! I really hope you come back with some more videos. Either way may the Gods bless you.

[@Quach7]

Off the top of my head, there is no need to dig up archaeology to get the "secret recipe" of the original Pancration. MMA is close enough.

[@Hyperoptix]

Marisa from Street Fighter 6 has brought me here, this combat style is very intriguing and I'm excited to learn more about it.

[@coryevans7302]

Pankration most definitely used ground and pound.

[@conorcoote8878]

Good video mate looking forward to see what you put out

[@emZee1994]

Dude I seriously doubt that they prohibited ground and pound, maybe that was only for the boys/young divisions A short look at the Wikipedia page states that the only things barred where eye gouging and biting, and even then Sparta allowed those rules. So in that sense it was basically the early UFC but even more brutal as death was an acceptable way to win Otherwise great video, I've subscribed

[@devanshbanawali1022]

I like your symbol

[@kaleoarnold3709]

Great work man! Can’t wait to learn some Pankration!

[@angelojaegerrafael]

Please continue. Amazing vídeo, as an European and meditarrenean I am glad people like you do this job

[@mikenewton9620]

Hey just saw your content I'm a life long martial artist and lover for ancient history really glad I saw your videos

[@MrSupermanrocks]

let the void guide us

[@VladaNish]

Very nice video. Good work!

[@thetruth9816]

I have been looking for a channel like this. Thank you for sharing this knowledge and shedding light on The Godfather of western martial art styles.

[@interfoliaeducation2466]

First of all thanks a lot for your efforts and videos! As a historian and former competitive martial artist I highly value them! One question: You convincingly argue that there was no ground-and-pound in pankration. How would you assess the situation depicted in the statue on the left hand side of this videos title picture (Florentine wrestlers is the name of it I guess). Many people deduct from this depiction that it was one of the main strategies of pankration to force your opponent to the ground, apply a hold and deliver blows with your free arm (basically ground-and-pound). As a martial artist the whole situation of that statue seems to be a very difficult position to achieve and sustain. Thanks a lot! I subscribed:)

[@m0j026]

I do remember that, in SF6's story mode, the player character can talk to Marisa, and she'll mention that Pankration used to be done while completely naked. Since you mentioned that there are differences between the Greek and Roman versions of the sport, maybe this was this true for the Roman version of Pankration? Or did the writers / research team drop the ball on that one?

[@fatefulbrawl5838]

*I used the info here to help out making my story series, so thanks my dude!* 🤜

[@unwaveringdiscipline5489]

Damn bro you kind of appealed to the proud Greek in me 😂🤣😂🤣 Are there any gyms in Greece you would recommend? I ve trained a little kyokushin here and there, but there's no gym in Paros , where I live and I m starting out on bjj instead. Still not even a stripe to my white belt, haha but I m always up for switching it up next winter when I can leave my island after the summer season ends. Original plan was to roll up to an MMA gym, not planning on doing any serious competing as I m 28 already and I feel like it d be hard to catch up, but over the years, with everything I ve tried, combat sports training is the only thing that fills me with joy

[@savcorinc3169]

I was my yaya's sparing partner for many years mastering the art pantofla . Every time I did something wrong she would beat me with her slipper.

[@eternalkhajiit6388]

I dig it lets go

[@zirrnorseman8068]

I hope you continue this series.

[@Tama-zephyrwindlass]

How do I help revive this sport?

[@askellabsalon7737]

Thank you for making this channel!

[@manuelsustaita8097]

The more I research pankration, the more it sounds like (to me) krav maga

[@Cholesterol-w1j]

No it’s not

[@xtrakewlguy666]

Teach me how to heel hook a centaur

[@JanderVK]

Efcharistó for doing this series! Something like this is a long time coming. XAIPE!

[@badgerman17a]

Would love to see more of this

[@pfmstaff4.28.61]

Fantastic research and video!

[@iliaskatachbasil3385]

Lets make this channel thrive guys. Παμεεεεε

[@thepessimistictitan2655]

Were headbutts allowed in the classical olympic version of the sport?

[@AMOPankration]

No mentions of headbutts in literature and no depictions on any amphorae (that I've seen), so I would say: unlikely.

[@ETK696]

I thought you could ground and pound in Pankration? Isn't there a statue showing a guy about to punch his turtled up opponent?

[@emZee1994]

Honestly I'm not sure what gave him this idea. I think maybe this rule was only for the young boys as Pankration didn't have weight classes but it did have age classes The rules of Pankration were only no eye gouging and no biting. But in Sparta they competed even without these rules, because of course they did its Sparta 😂

[@AMOPankration]

@tatum ergo The rule mentioned in the video (ορθοπαιία - or-tho-pa-ee-a) was a rule known to exist in ancient Greece. I will be making a video which references the ancient Hellenic rule set. Stay tuned.

[@menalgharbwalsharq648]

I cannot help to think that whatever the technique used, any dude from 2000years ago could easily kick the ass of champs of today. These guys had level of testosterone that would put the toughest modern guy to shame and anyway, these guys were killing each other with sharp brass blades. It take some nuts brain to live in this period

[@LunaticKing-fj3hp]

You have done 0 research and going off of feelings. Modern champions and other athletes have the best training and equipment and diet alongside sometimes steroids. The mma champions of today would destroy them 2k years ago. Rose tinted glasses on history. We are taller and stronger especially the athletes. Name me one greek guy that could deadlift 1000 pounds.

[@menalgharbwalsharq648]

@LunaticKing-fj3hp who knows, they were not lifting weights like we do. But we have stories of dudes lifting rocks as a proof of strenght, that if compared to actual rocks we can find following the descriptions, are impossible to lift for everyone but the greatest strong men of today, and "being strong" was not a job back in the day. Nobody would pay you to train all year. Now let's talk about the random people. We are fed with ultra transformed food full of sugar and fat, our veggies are grown with tons of chemicals. We may be taller generally speaking because we don't suffer food shortage anymore, but our lifestyle is extremely confortable and most people today does not develop a strong body like only our grand-grand dads did back in the beginning of the last century. Not even accounting for the complete lack of natural selection in the modern world due to curing od diseases, abundance, relative peacefull times (and anyway modern warfare does not select any kind of strong traits to survive) There is evidence to be found in history but that would indeed require extensive research and gathering that neither you nor I can do, but you wear as much rose glasses on modern times than I do on antiquity 👌🫵❣️

[@xrickylander_629]

Anevase Kiala Videa ❤️

[@DabobbyG937]

Not Greek but after becoming a boxer and a keen fan of MMA and learning it's origins I've come to be massively interested in ancient Greek philosophy and martial arts

[@phoebusapollon2313]

I mean you can use Pankration in real life situation to destroy someone, yes it's pretty dangerous to use it in competition with traditional rules but still it's probably the most useful martial art when it comes to self defense

[@Epsilonsama]

The ancient rules can be reworked. Modern Pankration has too many limitations and uses an idiotic scoring system that seems more like fencing and less than fighting.

[@frankthetank2284]

Boxing too, every fight begins on the feet, pankration is when your hands dont work in the given situation, technique beats power and speed.

[@OrangeIntercourse]

@@Epsilonsama Any videos that show this modern scoring system? (if you think explaining it in a comment would take too long)

[@LunaticKing-fj3hp]

Mma is better and boxing is better no need for pankration

[@connorperrett9559]

That's interesting that ground and pound wasn't allowed in classical Pankration. I wonder if that was due to it simply causing more unintentional deaths because of the lack of hand protection and springy floors than even the warrior Greeks were comfortable with.

[@Quach7]

2:45 Interesting. I thought of that of that in my head. To keep the fight technical, essentially have a fight as a bi-athlon. Essentially separating Karate and Judo.

[@kostasantonopoulos1478]

Εὖγε!!!!

[@themodernavatar2127]

As someone interested in parts of the Greek culture, I'm very interested in learning about Pankration. Seems like an interesting martial practice.

[@lewisedwards8190]

MMA Fighters could be really good at pankration

[@samuelscrum8851]

Would you guys ever hold a traditional pankration competition

[@DP-dd6hl]

As a combat/ mma instructor I completely agree with all this. After doing karate for 30 years, boxing and grappling for over 20 I have literally reached the same conclusion. I am simply a Pankrationist.

[@LunaticKing-fj3hp]

No you are not, you are better

[@lycagos1278]

μπραβο φλμ, συνεχισε να δινεις! εσσεται ημαρ

[@ZaitroSilau]

Can you learn mma as a base to learn later pankration?

[@honinakecheta601]

I wish mma fighting and wrestling in general was an Olympic sport

[@LunaticKing-fj3hp]

Wrestling and boxing is in the Olympics lmao

[@donsimons9810]

subscribed

[@enderwarlord3226]

Ωπ!🇬🇷

[@elshebactm6769]

🤠👍🏿

[@amalkashokan]

what is the open sided arena called?

[@alexandrosf.9582]

The open sided arena is called "Palaistra". It derives from the word "Pali" which means wrestling (you can actually see the word in 1:51).

[@gideonhotspurr5271]

So it’s basically MMA but with amateur rules ?

[@mattmc9812]

Pammachon is another Greek art

[@sagecapra6442]

Helvetian.. not Hellenistic.