The Revolution (Why this house)

[@TonyDucks89]

She said it herself. She gave her life for what she believed in. Unfortunately, what she believed was evil. Now she must live with the consequences.

[@RiverTruth]

She’s now out since last July

[@terribleTed-ln6cm]

Her life could have been so much more, the whole situation is such a waste of human life, and a never ending river of tears for the surviving family members.

[@eyemnew2991]

What doesn't make sense is, they killed Sharon and her unborn baby, to pro choice women it's not a baby until it's born, but to a judge it's double murder. I guess a marble isn't a marble until you use it to shoot another marble in the game of marbles.

[@jocelynastheart2732]

Disgusting the way they murdered them! I have no pity for them at all, stay in jail and shut up

[@MrCarltonv]

Yet you watched.

[@prophetba]

​@@MrCarltonvWell, yeah, so the commenter watched. So what. It's like watching a train wreck, or rubber necking at a gruesome car wreck. So what's your point? The whole country watched this horror unfold, and the aftermath through the years.

[@lenwelch2195]

@@MrCarltonvit’s important to watch to keep the pressure on to keep her in prison for as long as possible. She stayed in prison for 53 yrs. She lucky to be released.

[@marylivermore9238]

How she can talk about the murder and not break down tells me a lot

[@kathleendobens6648]

Yah and the trolls on here think she's doing a good job. Listen to her. Long long story about how she got there. Missing the point about what they all did. Giving some details but not all .

[@rogersimpson9725]

I used to hang out with a guy that killed two people. He shot them both in the head and cut their throats I quit hanging with him right before the murders. Smartest thing I ever did. He was pure evil. He didn't care about anyone. He stole from his own mother and she turned him in. He went down for enough to lock him up permanently. I don't think Leslie Van Houten is the same type of person whatsoever. I don't know her of course but I can just say this, she don't give off the same vibes.

[@Mark-Smeaton]

@kathleendobens6648 Um, did I just watch the same video? What do you mean "Long long story about how she got there". How she got where ? The Labiancas ? She had to answer those questions : she was at a parole hearing. She did talk about what she and the others did that night, and she wasn't denying guilt or downplaying her culpability. JMO.

[@suzannek3493]

@@Mark-Smeaton big deal ..

[@sashamusgravetravers30]

She did break down abit, you can tell she was emotional while telling the sad story 😭😭

[@lorir5728]

There was something wrong with all of them to end up on the ranch in the first place. I know it was the 60s but still. They definitely all had issues.

[@gingerbaker4390]

They werr drug addicts. Manson was a drug dealer pimp,. Spshb ranch was essentially a drug house,

[@Jersey.D3vil201]

Right? They attempt to make it seems like everyone was living a communal life and out of their minds on drugs.

[@kathleendobens6648]

I lived the 70s the true hippies were peaceful people. Not murderes

[@noelnewlon]

A woman's complete devotion to a manipulative man is a dangerous thing.

[@jl3322]

There are millions of women married to men like manson.

[@eyemnew2991]

Some marriages are the same way.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

@@eyemnew2991. Yup!

[@PHXsportsfan]

And he's not even charming. It's a short little ugly dude. Some women have atrocious taste in men. Especially when they're wanting to procreate. Any warm body will do.

[@christinamitchell6796]

So true

[@kathleendobens6648]

Lot of talk about her experiences. She really goes into detail and smiles a lot. It's not about you lady it's about the victims.i understand they are asking her questions but it's gotta be tough for the families of the victims to hear this. Assuming they were at the hearing.

[@MrCarltonv]

They're asking her about her experiences, that's why she's talking about them. But as long as you look good for sympathizing with the victims. Thanks for making this about you.

[@916bigAl]

She’s a sociopath

[@kathleendobens6648]

@@MrCarltonv ignorant much?

[@MrCarltonv]

@@kathleendobens6648 A very predictable response kathleen. When people are embarrassed they always resort to personal attacks and name-calling.

[@kathleendobens6648]

​@Carl your way off. It's about what she did to the victims. It's a lot of talk about everything except the actual murders. Missing is the actual ritual what the victims went thru at time of their crime. That's what's missing.

[@kathyjones8215]

Think of Sharon Tate, any woman who was pregnant, remember how you felt carrying your baby, Sharon Tate must have been insane with fear unable to protect her baby All of them should stay where they are

[@texasgina]

Exactly. My daughter just had a baby boy two weeks ago and I can’t even imagine if something would’ve happened to her when she was pregnant. In fact I used to tell her to be careful because women wanting babies will kill pregnant women and steal their babies and I used to tell her never park next to a van

[@robg4472]

Leslie wasn’t involved in the Tate murder. Of course the Liabianca murder was also horrible.

[@Jersey.D3vil201]

@@robg4472 I know when I think of any one of them, all of the murders come to mind. I do not differentiate which one did what. In my mind, it just doesn't matter. To me, they are all responsible for all the murders because no one did anything to stop it. No one reported any of the murders that occurred at the Tate residence or the Labianca's. I think the OP considers it the same way, as she said, "They all should stay where they are." Who did what probably doesn't matter to her either.

[@robg4472]

@@Jersey.D3vil201 I really like to think that had I been in her genes I would have made better decisions but I guess you never really know. Tragic that one could make such a stupid decision and there is no way to change it!

[@jl3322]

Tates last words were “mommy mommy……” Let her die in prison as she knew the murders from the night before.

[@danguerriero3094]

I was watching an interview of one of the victims relatives who says leslie still is connected to some of the people in the manson family now that I heard that she should never be paroled.

[@tammybrown4901]

No REMORSE for none of them

[@jameswilson9368]

I feel that all the people involved in this unbelievable series of events should die in prison, life should mean life, especially in this case.Van Houten has shown extreme good behavior behind bars, has conducted herself in a timely manor, but that doesent give her a pass on the Manson murders. Just look at the relatives of the victims and how ugly their lives have been since August '69. These people need to stay in prison.

[@jillgallagher2865]

When I watch her describe her supposed rehabilitation during later parole hearings I have felt sorry for her. Certainly I am on the side of keeping her in prison for the rest of her natural life if not executing her! But now, watching this particular clip of her describing what she did in her own words, I don't feel sorry for her at all.

[@christyt4249]

And I really feel these girls could have been granted much more mercy if they had not acted like complete fools at the trial. This was still a time where women were thought of being gentler and not capable of this type thing. We know better now. And because they were so young, people wanted to think they had redeeming qualities. But after they made a joke of the victims deaths and legal system in court, they put the final nails in their coffins. It is actually fortunate that they showed their true colors in court. So then there was no doubt that they needed to spend the rest of their lives away from society. Maybe they are totally different now. I am on the fence about that. A big part of me believes that they just learned what to say to get what they want. But whether completely changed or not, there are some acts that are just too evil to ever be forgotten. This definitely falls in that category.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

I think she’s the only one who should have been released many years ago. She’s rehabilitated. Her psychological reports have been glowing since the late 70s, and she’s been a model prisoner for over 45 years. She’s not cut from the same cloth as the others.

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

​@@paulvoorhies8821 well let her live with you. She's not welcome in my neighborhood 🤨

[@Livinglife595]

@@SUGAR_XYLERi wouldn’t be worried to have her as my neighbor

[@Diana-ud3ki]

there's moments where she's even smiling reliving the murder spree. Only thing she's sorry for is that she got caught & is behind bars now.

[@kaneda5438]

are you a couch doctor? i guess not.

[@1974Coconut]

bla bla bla. She was in it, and wanted to go to kill. She says so. She's no victim, stabbed 14 times a dying woman, didn't call police later, didn't leave the murdering cult, didn't do anything to stop them, saw who killed Tate, didn't bust them.. etc. etc. etc.

[@texasgina]

Exactly she and the other women describe stabbing innocent people begging for their lives like monotone and stone cold. They all blame Manson when they are the ones who did it and didn’t leave or refuse and didn’t call the cops

[@ingurlund9657]

Some people smile when they're nervous. They can't help it. I don't think she's happy about the killings.

[@tashakomaroff2982]

I hate the way she ends her sentences with a smile; it's an obscene juxtaposition.

[@BeautifulSpirit-24]

52 years ago today, August 10, 1969, the Labiancas were brutally murdered and along with participating in these gruesome murders, Leslie Van Houton, destroyed her own life.

[@Bananadiva1]

Well everyone's actions have consequences. Let's not forget her actions cost the lives of innocent people. She may be in prison but she still has her life. That's far more than she even deserves.

[@christyt4249]

100% Right !!! It frustrates me so much when Leslie’s supporters claim she never actually killed anyone. First of all, she didn’t know whether Rosemary was already dead or not. She just started stabbing. If she was already dead, Leslie just lucked out. Wasn’t some moral high ground on her part. Secondly, she held down Rosemary. Funny how that is often left out on her part. Restraining someone where they can be murdered is same as murdering, IMO. We are all given free will in life. What we do with it has consequences, both good and bad. It is way past time for them to just accept their fates and stop putting the victims families through more of this nightmare.

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

​@@christyt4249 well said and absolutely true ✅

[@valjackson9050]

​@@Bananadiva1 If this was the case for all violent murderers then I would agree but........far more violent killers have been parolled.

[@Grinch_Hoe]

She had the last laugh, though. She got parolled.

[@jerryashlock5519]

Her interview in '77 is particularly scary as she is basking in the limelight, smiling very broadly & obviously seeing herself as a celebrity ....This is psychopathy folks... No empathy other than what they feel for themselves ...

[@winterweib]

Exact! And this would have been how she would have lived, if they had set her free. Going to the Oscars; cone on...! I often tell this to supporters, and on regular base they start to fight with me and say she was never free at that time, and she never went to see the Oscars. This is what she still thinks would be the life she deserves, how mean it is that they did not grant it to her, that they stole her life though she did NOTHING. And I could bet though she is old now, she still would give the high nosed Hollywood celeb, if she got the chance and would be set free. I cannot do very much, but what I am able to do shall happen to keep her behind bars. I will always love and adore Doris Tate, and also her family and each and everybody who suffered and suffers until today because of these useless things. Amen.

[@kaynemccully5266]

@@winterweib did she really go to the Oscars in 1977? If she did that goes to show what she thought of the case. She didn't take it seriously and thought she was a celebrity!

[@paulvoorhies8821]

@@winterweib. I’m dying to know who took her to the Oscars. I know it wasn’t John Waters bc they didn’t meet until 1985, and I know it was a female acquaintance. But that’s all I know.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

@@kaynemccully5266. She went in 78.

[@JohnSegerclucka]

@@paulvoorhies8821 details please

[@BlueSky-qv7cd]

Its funny how when people get caught after doing evil things, most claim to have found God or be completely different people when they're incarcerated. Even if that were true they still did the crime, so they should still do the time, and the penalty for murder is life in prison, not until they appear to be reformed or found God. Incarceration for murder is about punishment not rehabilitation.

[@horasona]

+John doe Yes,it is a punishment,not looking for a God and rebirth and other excuses. In 19th century prison system the criminals were living in very hard conditions doing hard physical labor. I doubt that somebody would listen to them or tolerate singing and laughing in the court.

[@teel6060]

The end of your world as you know it changes people, virtually all people. That they found God is the greatest thing they could have found in prison. Keep in mind that many dont and that is the ultimate tragedy, going to ones death only to face eternal hell for having rejected God when you had the best opportunity to find Him.

[@Add_Account485]

Brian good point, i forgot about that , I think I actually remember watching a documentAty about prisons in the beginning or 1st place, being like that. ,, so yeah, Good point

[@vanillacreem816]

I agree. 100%. As a born again believer, I know based on God’s word, there is no sin he can’t forgive. Like you said maybe they did find Christ and great if they did but they still have to pay for their crime. You are so correct, it’s not about rehabilitation, it’s about justice and retribution. When Jesus forgave the thief on the cross, the thief did not ask to be released.

[@neptunedawn7121]

In another interview, Van Houten stated how her old friends and family set her straight. It is good that she has apparently grown out of Manson's "brainwashing". But Rosemary LaBianca is still dead.

[@AngelDust2383]

Lies are always hard to remember.

[@anonymousinternetcowardmcq4967]

Angel Ina lol "im trying to remember which lie i told last time so i can come close to approximating it again"

[@sirennem.6890]

she was the most innocent was guilty but not.monster like Susan or Patricia

[@winterweib]

@@sirennem.6890 The innocent Leslie, which stabbed Mrs. LaBianca, even cut the cord in her back, which threw a tantrum since she missed all the fun in Cielo Drive, yelled for a second chance (I often thought that beast is the one who started the second night, so to say); she made the poor children to run into their schlaughtered parents. Stuffed the food of her victims into that greedy slot with those huge teeth. Complete innocent. Not to mention how mean she was when it comes to her father, which did everything for that beast. No wonder he was a boozer. May that nasty old hag rot in prison and, when at last dead, take an express journey right into hell. Stay there, even when our Universe will have come to an end. Amen.

[@hardsam68]

@@sirennem.6890 go away

[@wonderwoman6019]

When I was a toddler (born in 1967) and my brother was still baby age (born Jan 1969), we lived in Ridgefield, China Lake, California...Death Valley. My mom was in her room with my brother in his crib, she was at her mirror when she could see in the mirror that behind her a man was looking in her window, she described him perfectly. Of course called the police, when they came, they looked outside the house for him and outside her window they found a rock had been pushed under the window because person was not tall enough to see inside otherwise. She described a man with brown shoulder length hair. She had just moved to the U.S. from Spain in 1968 and was still learning the language. At time she told me this it was late 80's, although she was terrified when incident happened, when she told me it was matter of fact, no talk of any person in particular who could have been looking through her window. I happen to have read a book previously of Manson murders, so told her of him, AFTER she had described person who sounded like Manson, that he was short and had to sometimes climb on whatever he could to see in windows for potential victims. But if he saw there were children, he left that house alone...

[@dammitttman8]

Wow,, wonder if that was y'all!!!!

[@pinkfreud62]

There isn't a Ridgefield, California. You must mean Ridgecrest. I've been there a few times.

[@lyndareed563]

It could have been Charles Manson but Charlie wasn’t showing sympathy for children in anyway or he would not have killed poor Sharon Tate and her 8 and half months pregnant 🤰 get real !

[@canadianfortrump4057]

@@lyndareed563 One of the few good things about Manson was that he liked children. Manson didn't kill Sharon Tate because he wasn't there. In fairness I doubt if he knew Tate was 8 months pregnant.

[@lyndareed563]

@@canadianfortrump4057 he had met Sharon while coming into her property Her photographer ran Manson off so yes Manson knew Sharon was pregnant! Do your research it will tell you they met Manson was there looking for Terry Melcher ! I don’t believe he liked children either or he would have cared properly for them instead of living like pigs in a dessert! No water or food unless stealing or dumpster diving ! Thank for being a trump supporter!

[@donsous2971]

Leslie is cold, calculating and detached from true emotions. There’s rage there

[@kathleendobens6648]

Yes. Every interview I've ever seen of her theres no emotion with her story. Onlyvtine I've ever seen her cry was when she c was asked about her homecoming queen days. There was tears shed and they should all be dead by now. We are just giving them a day at the park so they feel good about themselves and gets a hearing.

[@oxigen163]

6:13 "And he said: 'No because children live there.'" In Sharon Tate's house there was a child as well...

[@mikeMCSG]

Yes but Manson didn't stake out her house. He only associated it with Melcher. If he'd known a movie star lived there, he'd have been knocking on her door looking for a way into Hollywood.

[@winterweib]

@@mikeMCSG He knew that Terry Melcher had moved. He already had left a mean message on Terry 's Veranda.

[@TheMetalMachineMusic]

He'd been at the house whilst Tate was there actually.

[@lizhall5927]

Steven Parent was also a kid at only 18!

[@mariacardenas4665]

She never showed remorse

[@benjaminward5295]

She sure has vivid memories of what she did. Hard too blame drugs or temporary insanity. Or possibly Manson. It would seem.

[@markolcl4784]

Doing drugs or being 'insane' does not necessarily result in memory loss.

[@kaynemccully5266]

She said she did no drugs that night.

[@dakotacoren6936]

Van Houten should never have been freed!

[@RiverTruth]

Cry harder 😂

[@tmcdaid5429]

Believe me, if you feel overwhelmed or in shock, the one thing you don’t have is an appetite. This woman sat in a bush and ate cheese and chocolate milk after maliciously stabbing a woman multiple times. I wouldn’t trust her at all. She’s where she deserves to be - in prison.

[@alexwallace6120]

She murdered a woman in cold blood, then chnged into the woman's clothes ..then ate cheese and drank milk iin the bushes outside .I don't see any real remorse ,and no regret,no saddness for the victims. She had no mercy for the victims ,as did her killer friends .She should stay in prison until she dies .No Govenor wil let her be free!

[@UnknownRoguexxx]

But she was the hottest Bitch in the Manson family, besides Ruth-Ann

[@thenotoriousman8473]

Totally agree

[@jonatanassefha3938]

Why are you lying and spreading false information, she didn't stab anyone in fact, Tex did it himself while she were just present at the murder scene.

[@violetsprings470]

Totally agree-she appears to have no morals

[@ValTheGal1960]

Ive noticed that in some parts of this interview,she seems to enjoy recounting these things. Sickening.

[@ivandesantis858]

I learned from listening to LVH in this clip that she used some of Mrs. Labianca's clothes after the murder. Like the sequence of events weren't chilling and smarmy enough.

[@serendpity3478]

Because she was covered in the woman's blood. Funny that, as dead bodies don't usually bleed profusely as you're stabbing them multiple times, spraying you with blood and gore. Living people do that though. She is so full of shit.

[@donsous2971]

@@serendpity3478 you are so right!

[@courtneykatona996]

@@serendpity3478 You are exactly right, Rosemary was also trying to fight back with a lamp dead women rarely do that either. Leslie is a liar

[@christyt4249]

And ate the Labianca’s food and played with their dogs. So entitled!!

[@kaynemccully5266]

Because there was blood all over Leslie Van Houten shirt and pants. So much for misses labianca being dead! Dead people don't splatter blood!

[@pershiesgirl]

Convenient how she can remember what everyone else involved did but when it comes to her, she was sleeping, confused or just plain couldn't remember. This is why she will never get parole because she does not take ownership and admit to her own wrong doing and not to mention how inhumane, grisly and morbid these crimes were.

[@davidgolden1726]

Yes she does ! Listen to it again...js, and not that I'm for ever releasing her or the others !!

[@pershiesgirl]

@@davidgolden1726 HI David, I listened to it again and I still feel she chooses to remember what she wants. Listen to her statements. She can remember word for word what Charlie said about houses they stopped at and why he didn't go into those houses. She remembers about the church and conveniently when stoppedand questioned, all of a sudden she was sleeping a lot. She remembers the details of what Tex and others said, the pillow case, the LaBianca's crying out for each other, what she thought about how much Mrs. LaBianca loved her husband. When questioned about the knie, she does't remember. She is picking and choosing what she wants to say and what she doesn't want to answer, she can't remember. Other excuses were I don't know how the pillow case got on victims head, she stared into a blank room, she had no sound memory and she only stabbed the victim when she was dead. She is trying to minimize her actions. Everyone has their own opinion but these people need to die in jail. Two down, 3 to go. Sorry for this being so long, she just lies and minimizes her role so much.

[@kathleendobens6648]

@@pershiesgirl Soo true and very observant of you.

[@suzannek3493]

Too bad she got out .

[@JamesBarnsley]

Notice how Manson is still at the center of it, when she talks. And she talks about being a "secondary importance" person, but a normal person would have never have even looked at Manson that way to begin with. A normal person would not have allowed some "bum" to define who they are. They would have seen him as a nothing, not someone to look up to.

[@wowest]

+James Barnsley Are you in any position to decide what a normal person would have done? No. She did not see him as a bum. He was disguised as a "hippie," a person to look up to.

[@JamesBarnsley]

"He was disguised as a "hippie," a person to look up to" I will say no more.

[@carolglass9405]

Who could ever forgive or buy into their parole hearing bullshit ? Sure, they're all sorry now. Not !

[@gingerbaker4390]

In prison everyone gets degrees. The more degrees they hand out, the more funding they get from government.

[@tomwalsh9120]

lol same as the outside.

[@gspieler]

I lived around the corner of the La Bianca's when the Manson murders took place. The neighborhood was horrified. Seven years later I went to visit and interview Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten at California Institution for Women. It was an interview based on their seven year sentence. At the time I was struck by how removed they were from the crime they had committed.They acted like nothing had ever happened. It appears nothing has changed.

[@mightyea]

Thats because they were programmed… lcd helps with programming

[@marioarguello6989]

@@mightyea LCD? What about Plasma?

[@tammybrown4901]

They have no REMORSE

[@kathleendobens6648]

Wow that's a great story . You actually talked to th e m. That says a lot.

[@sharoncrawford1975]

I just can't feel sorry for her

[@winstonwalker1583]

Maybe she has changed however it is an insult too the victims and there families that she is trying too apply for parole,,

[@lindsaycarrick390]

nothing will bring the victims back. BY keeping her in prison you are adding a victim

[@MrRavic]

Lindsay Carrick You are wrong. She belongs in prison. She is a cold blooded killer. Her victims all got the death penalty. She should have too.

[@reverseyoself5257]

Lindsay Carrick Let her live with you.. but hide the knives! ;)

[@valjackson9050]

It is her right to apply for parole blame your government they made the rules !

[@stinnett41]

They took lives intentionally personally I feel none of them should be paroled ever. If I were a family member I would have wanted all of these people put to death. Just my opinion...

[@sexycougar7140]

Andy Stinnett What Leslie did would get any other person 20 years max..,let her out to be with her family before she dies!!!¡

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

Cougar is another name for old hag LESLIE, IS THAT YOU?

[@tombovitale2597]

I don't care if it was the 1930s 40s or 50s or 60s killing innocent people is wrong and you should pay the price if you did that don't blame it on the age the year or the drugs I don't think there's any drugs that make you kill you haven't seen you or you don't

[@serendpity3478]

Simi Valley Sherri & Barbara Hoyt sure as hell "indicated they didn't want to go" They took off the same night that Krenwinkel came back and told them all gleefully about how much she'd enjoyed herself killing all those piggies.

[@zebrastreet9993]

No they didn’t. Barbara Hoyt testified about a lot but she never claimed Krenwinkel confessed to her. She did overhear Susan talking about the murders but that wasn’t until about a month or so later up in the desert, not Spahn.

[@kaynemccully5266]

Exactly!

[@paulvoorhies8821]

I❤me some Hamburger Hoyt!

[@thewolf3889]

She is a lousy liar.

[@alffuergregor]

People left. She did not. She stayed to kill.

[@suzannek3493]

I think it’s disgusting that people are saying she didn’t stab Mrs. Labianca when she was alive- she held the woman down for God sake while she was being stabbed by another woman ! . How convenient that she doesn’t actually remember if Mrs Labianca made noises while she stabbed her or whether she was alive or dead. I find it revolting tbe way she smiles while telling the worst part of the story. sorry but she doesn’t deserve to be free .

[@suzannek3493]

I agree 100 %

[@jeanniedevereaux5857]

There is lots of " I don't remember" mmmmm and no tears telling the story.

[@christyt4249]

Krenwinkel does the same. And last I heard, they a still locked up together and good buddies. No doubt they role play these parole hearings together and what to say. They have no problems remembering the times Charlie made them “victims.” But when it comes to them taking a knife and slaughtering innocent people, their memories suddenly fade.

[@markolcl4784]

if she cried on the interview, you would probably say something like ''this was just for show''...

[@winterweib]

@@markolcl4784 And it WOULD be for show. The fact she is not crying, but has a nice conversation with many smiles and, sadly, huge gaps every time in her memories when it comes to her guilt tells it all.

[@dennishardy3869]

So sad what happened to the La Bianca's. 😢😞😥😓. So heartbreaking. Maniacs. Could just about make u throw up.

[@flashdance5574]

I know, pure evil bastards all of them, hope they rot in hell for all eternity

[@winterweib]

@@flashdance5574 Thank you, Sir, for this. Couldn't agree more. Amen.

[@flashdance5574]

@@winterweib 👍

[@TheIndependentLens]

When you at the ranch if you'd only said no, you'd be a free woman today, Leslie. You'd mostly like have children and grandchildren and maybe even great grandchildren.

[@gingerbaker4390]

@Love Always Linda Kasabian said no. She still lived..

[@tmcdaid5429]

Ginger Baker - correct. Linda Kasabian is absolutely crucial to this story - she represents the choice they all had. She said NO.

[@stevengallant6363]

Just say no!

[@wadeking8643]

@@tmcdaid5429 I've heard alot of people criticize Linda Kasabian for one escaping from the ranch and leaving her child behind..She had just witnessed what killers had done to all the victims at the Tate house and her little girl was with Patricia and the others watching them and I figure she's been around them long enough to know Mansons ideals about children and how smart they we're and innocent and they had no ego or since of cruelty and he had said that the children at the ranch were the most valued members of the group and they were allowed to play all around the ranch and do what they want..I think if she had tried to forcibly take her daughter from them she would have ended ended up getting killed for sure and then she would not get to see her daughter grow up and have a chance for s happy life cause she would be dead..And who knows then what they would have done with her daughter..I think she felt sure enough that they wouldn't harm her daughter and she would live to be reunited with her..Then some people think Linda shouldn't have gotten the deal she did and should have been thrown in prison and sentenced to death with the others for being an accessory to murder..If she tried to have run for help Tex would have chased her down and killed her and by the time a neighbor got the law there the victims would have all been dead anyway and the mudsrers probably escaped too..Sharons family all felt Linda should have been convicted too

[@56cadd]

@@wadeking8643, agree.. pretty much sums it up

[@viborrr]

Leslie van Houten testified in 1969 that she had felt bad because she "did not get to go" on Cielo murders and that she had been "hoping to go if they did it again". This was on the day just after Tate and before Labiancas. She may not be a threat, but she is no less guilty than the other girls. That she did least stabbing was just a matter of chance. She would have done more had events unfolded differently. So what she's doing now is a bit of historical revisionism, chipping and smoothing the story to make it as suitable as can be for the parole board yet without denying responsibility, which is only understandable.

[@lonelyheroine]

+viborrr" She did the least stabbing?? Are you insane? OMG I can see you as a murder groupie. I can tell because anyone who claims that she should be paroled for doing the least stabbing is so messed up and stupid it's a wonder you're able function at all Damn you're a piece of work. It's like saying Bonnie Parker should have been paroled because Clyde had shot more people than Bonnie. Yes, I'm fully aware that Bonnie and Clyde were gunned down-- -I 'm just using them to make a point.

[@bighands69]

+lonelyheroine She will never get parole because we simply do not know how damaged she is. She could just go out and do it again. And that is exclude the horrible act of the Tate murders. These girls were all selected by Manson on the bases they were damaged and vulnerable to begin with. He drugged them for long periods of time. When they were all arrested they kept repeating lines straight out of the cult over and over like tape recordings. Things like Charlie does not give orders which shows you the level of logic they were capable of grasping considering he ordered them to to go out and kill.

[@donk6765]

+bighands69 people we claim to be terrorists are brainwashed and vulnerable, do you feel for them also?

[@northernlight4614]

+lonelyheroine Actually, Bonnie Parker never murdered anyone. Clyde definitely would have gotten the chair but Bonnie just time in prison.

[@lonelyheroine]

+bighands69 You are so right. Charlie hand picked Leslie, Atkins, Krenwinkel and Tex Watson because he knew that those members were capable of slicing and dicing the victims and feel no remorse. Manson had a keen eye for knowing all of the his family members who could butcher the seven victims and I guess he got it right.

[@Jersey.D3vil201]

For those who say Leslie deserves to be free...so if someone was an accomplice to the murder of your child, your parent, someone you love dearly, and that person helped murder your loved one, then sat in the bushes an ate cheese, never bothered to report it, completely trivializing the murder of your loved one, would you want this person to have their freedom while your loved one is dead in the ground? Does your loved one get to spend time with their spouse for three days just as Leslie gets her conjugal visits? Is getting a GED and some NA meetings enough to let this person out of prison when your loved one is dead? Is keeping busy while locked up in a controlled environment enough rehabilitation? If you say yes to any of this you're either stupid, a gullible sucker, a psychopath or a liar. And please, spare me with the splitting of hairs. It doesnt matter who stabbed who. No one did anything to stop it and no one reported it. They're all equally guilty because of that fact alone. End of the story.

[@robg4472]

Right or wrong We do parole people despite horrible crimes. The other major trial of 70/71 was for William Caully jr - he only got 3.5 years for 22 murders and hardly anyone cares.

[@Stand663]

Spot on

[@anthonylarusso9676]

It's all insanity. Broken down bums using drugs, stealing to get by on some ranch, NOTHING good could come of it. The progression of using dangerous drugs and among dangerous people set the stage for this woman's fate.

[@Madmen604]

She is minimizing...she was sleeping and didn't hear him? So how does she know what he said then?...Put the minister up on the cross??? Did she notice that children were being raped by Manson and getting bad sunburns and being neglected and abused? She didn't know there was any killing? Was she asleep all the time?...Unbelievable. I find her manner of relating all this just disgusting. Pretty soft monotone voice..chilling.

[@kathleendobens6648]

You are very smart and only person to talk about the actual way it was there. Children were taken into custody for a reason not just because they were jailed. They were malnourished. Why would anyone who had a baby 9 months old kill another woman who's pregnant? And van Houten talks about the husband dying and Mrs labianca being already dead while she stabbed her. Didn't know a doctor was there .

[@viggosimonsen]

A scandal that she is still locked up. She should have been freed years ago. She has been completely resocialized for a long time and is clearly not of any danger to society. She is basically a good and intelligent girl who became a victim of a terrible company and a very unfortunate series of circumstances.

[@marioarguello6989]

Intelligent?

[@kaynemccully5266]

Then let her live with you!

[@josephochenge476]

The murderers always think they are smart and nobody can see through them. They are very pathetic all the time.

[@kathleendobens6648]

Yes and you can see the psychopathy of her afflact of emotions when she's talking about the murders.

[@kaynemccully5266]

, yes these criminals think they are so smart and that we are so dumb, that we will believe they're crap about finding religion, getting educated, having a perfect prison record, volunteering in prison, helping others in prison, psychiatric help, 12-step programs, excetera excetera! It's all a con game to get out! Just like they said they were programmed by Charlie, now they're programmed by the prison system, and they've learned how to play the game. I'm almost positive if they had been let out after 12 or 15 years they would have ended up back in prison!

[@sadepa235]

why is she smiling...?... just creepy

[@johnnynobuddy1]

When asked.....she said she'd do it again.

[@FF-so3su]

She very likely has changed and has genuine remorse. However whether she is released or not is more about paying for the crimes of taking the lives of others.

[@GeorgeVreelandHill]

Van Houten is a killer. She will die in prison. Fitting end for her. George Vreeland Hill

[@mirrorreflection3479]

There was a battle occuring from within but one continues to support the same family rather than running away. How much can you throw it to mind control of another person? Although she said at the end she accepts responsibility.

[@jdnly9716]

When she "smiles" shes not actually smiling, its just an expression which many people have.

[@kathleendobens6648]

There's a missing emotion in her talk.

[@suzannek3493]

That makes no sense

[@MrRJMGREEN]

Hi Dj, Yes, I have no idea from where this intense hatred in others can even arise. They seem to have an energy level that is misdirected. I have sympathy for the victims, the killers, and all involved. It is a very sad situation. I do not have hostile, angry feelings for any of them. It is nice to see someone who does not have the herd mentality of hating, harming, bashing, etc. Always think positive and move forward. Good for you. :)

[@kathleendobens6648]

Exactly you hit it on the head. Putting it to words .

[@Silversage1955]

they will rot in prison. they were lucky to get off of death row!

[@timetravler8051]

I am exactly the same age as LVH. I remember when that happened. It shocked the nation! These creepy crawlies scared the hell out of everyone. And I remember she was so gorgeous, popular, and queen or princess to prom or homecoming in high school. I just couldn't believe she could do such a thing. I still can't to this day. Now she is old, wrinkled, gray haired, glasses, & pitiful looking. Just an observation. Sad.

[@wisdomseeker3362]

It's sad for the victims .Leslie did all of this to herself. _Choices_ ❗

[@paulvoorhies8821]

That happens after 53 years.

[@sharonletchford9375]

And has just gotten paroled. She s out what a discracful parole board.

[@punknhead23]

What is the date of this interview?

[@MargaretMccafferty-j4s]

No emotions in her, they must all have been true blood psychopathic.

[@Linda-pw8gx]

“ it wasn’t a robbery ?”

[@WadeKing-dm2hw]

She wasn't cloudy about it in her testimony in 1969. Actually it was very different. She said she and Pat both stabbed Rosemary together at the same time. I am torn myself at rather anyone that does such a thing deserves parole. The victims families will have generational trauma that will be passed down to each generation and will know the terrible effect it had on their parents and grandparents. Leslie was a beautiful intelligent young woman and threw it all away.

[@countrygirl9059]

Conveniently doesn't remember.....

[@1dt46h]

It seems like they are more interested in hearing about juicy details of the murderers then what she is now like 25 years later.

[@ListenToBigFace]

They're trying to get an impression of what she thinks about her crimes now i.e. Is she actually remorseful etc.

[@judyjudy51]

cold as ice

[@Teodozja.Barra.]

Potwór w ludzkiej postaci

[@jl3322]

If she was not linked to Manson she would clearly have been paroled years ago.

[@jl3322]

@Parker Hilton I know every fact and factor of Van Houtens actions and her charges to her ultimate conviction of murder and sentence of death and my comment/opinion is valid based on other prisoners in this country with similar convictions

[@gingerbaker4390]

@@jl3322 I think your misled. She is lying.. She has previously stated, she knew beforehand there was going to be murder. She in effect wanted to see if she could do it. The initial hesistancy was just her building up the courage to do the actual murder. And in her own words, she said it felt good and she enjoyed.. Dianne lake remembers her recounting the story to her like an excited school girl etc etc. Even the police officer at her initial interview was shocked hearing her describe the murders as something that had to be done. It's also noticeable how she tries to minimilzed her version of her part. The evidence at the crime scene was extremely bloody. She must've been covered in blood. The labisncs were literally gutted .

[@RobertJohnson-mn3br]

@@gingerbaker4390 she did a horrible act, no question. For that she’s paid an extreme price. She’s changed her life. She’s got a masters degree. Major sign that shes reformed herself. 50 years in jail is long enough. It’s time for her to get paroled. Far worse criminals get released than her. She’s 70’ something years old. I doubt she’ll pick up her old habits

[@voraciousreader3341]

The real point is, Van Houten was originally sentenced to death. Which is in effect a life sentence, bc you are carried out of the prison in the same condition. That sentence was commuted to life, and if you consider the two sentences, _THE LIFE SENTENCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITHOUT PAROLE,_ keeping within the legal definition of a death sentence. The point is, _she needs to die in prison, based on her original sentence,_ and I think the subsequent parole boards have recognized this error, and that this is one of the reasons they keep refusing parole for the Manson murderers, so that they remain in prison until they die.

[@greenbeagle13]

@@voraciousreader3341 - Well said. I can't imagine the terror those victims lived in the last moments of their lives. I would think getting a death sentence commuted should be considered a "second chance." Life in prison without parole.

[@kimoandrews5802]

It is always the fault of a man...

[@paleblue498]

If there was any common sense in our laughable criminal justice system, this murdering bitch and the rest of the scum involved in this crime would have been swinging at the end of a rope a very long time ago. Why we pay for these dirtbags to live snug and cozy in prison and allow them to apply for parole year after year is beyond me.

[@Gazman67]

yep, shame they weren't executed as they were supposed to be and they'd be in the right place in history.

[@ValTheGal1960]

Amen!

[@kathleendobens6648]

Yah well said. Those people are dead and can never again breathe, talk or walk again like you can lady. Merciless were all of you.

[@headingnorth5701]

I think Leslie was a total air head as a teen.. just vapid, gullible, and stupid. I think she went along with whatever felt good or was fun or exciting to her at the time. It wasn't until she got into prison and got therapy that she grew up. Tragically too late.

[@headingnorth5701]

I believe she's being totally honest today and I also believe she has genuine remorse.

[@anonymousinternetcowardmcq4967]

CanOf Peas lol yeah the "therapy" turned her from a killer to a fucking housewife

[@56cadd]

@@headingnorth5701 😄

[@marioarguello6989]

Agreed, except the psychobabble bullshit.

[@scintill8or]

I'd like to hear from the guy who picked them up when they hitch-hiked home after the murders, and then he finds out later it was the Manson family! gulp

[@neptunedawn7121]

Good old Charlie: he gets people to kill for him--AND HE LEAVES THE KILLERS STRANDED--and the killers had to hitchhike to Spahn Ranch. Van Houten certainly was a killer: but to Charlie Van Houten was a tool to be used nothing more.

[@BeveC21E]

My guess about that, I don't think we ever shall! Who'd be able to live w that, after finding out who they were that he assisted!

[@beedifrnt]

If she is a decent and remorseful person, then she needs to STFU and do her time, till the days she dies in prison. She continues to torture the families of the victims by attending these parole hearings and making them relive the entire nightmare all over again. If you really came here thinking you would find love and support for LVH, you obviously are sadly mistaken. She is a serial killer and will die behind bars. Simple as that. Deal with it.

[@YourFreeBeats]

She still seems caught in the concept she stabbed a dead woman. You have to understand conspiracy was extremely foreign to her generation. FWIW I am as liberal as it gets but still feel they should all remain in prison for the mere fact they had their lives spared.

[@kathleendobens6648]

How does he know she was dead.

[@lissalives1]

More than 8 lives were taken, I’m sure (counting musician Gary Hinman). Guess we will never know.

[@jaxd36]

Really? Because she's the least remorseful of the lot of them, the only one not taking responsibility for what she did

[@kaynemccully5266]

Yes I agree. I think Patricia krenwinkel shows more remorse! But she should not be paroled either.

[@markbrodie2784]

She should have never gotten out!!!!!!

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

Leslie thinks that she will be paroled She also still thinks she's a homecoming queen

[@lissalives1]

SUGAR XYLER --Not these days. She's 67. She stabbed a dead body. Tex Watson did the actual killings that night.

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

lissalives Smoot Tex is a total monster. None of them will ever get paroled because they killed the rich.

[@lissalives1]

SUGAR XYLER ---Doris Tate told Tex at one of his parole hearings that she found it ironic that her daughter (Sharon) and Tex were both born in Dallas. That woman was a force to be reckons with.

[@lissalives1]

*reckoned

[@afrugalfamily]

I don't know if she feels remorse or not but people on here are so judgemental about stuff they haven't experienced. I was completely brainwashed by someone in different circumstances and it changes the way you think. Your thoughts are gradually removed and replaced with their thoughts until you don't think for yourself anymore. They just have to glance at in a certain way to get you to do what they want. So I completely understand how the women were coerced into doing this. Maybe they enjoyed it, maybe they didn't and felt powerless. Either way, you don't know what is inside their heads and it is possible that Manson convinced them that they were doing it for the right reasons. If someone isolates you and tells you the same thing over and over and over your values, beliefs and version of reality all change.

[@adish7275]

Venus In Furs who cares why they did it. being brainwashed is not an excuse for murder. lives were distroyed families were distroyed. the point of prison time is panishment.

[@afrugalfamily]

count yourself lucky you've had an straightforward life and not been on the receiving end of abuse, manipulation, isolation and mind control.

[@afrugalfamily]

a*

[@ohuntermc9321]

Most of them are idiotic and no nothing about the case!!

[@adish7275]

Venus In Furs they chose to follow manson. You know in the legal sistem if you commit murder while you are drunk it doesnt give you a reduced sentence (at least by the english law). So being brainwashed doesnt excuse murdering 8 people including an unborn child.

[@Tsumami__]

murder must make ya hungry. Seems like many murderers eat afterwards??

[@silversage151]

Manson was incarcerated at the California Medical Facility at Vacaville, CA, for several years. When Manson was there, it was where they sent the prisoners who needed psychiatric help (or as you say, a facility for the criminally insane). So you can't say that he never got any help.

[@kathleendobens6648]

After the murders or before?

[@ValTheGal1960]

I honestly dont think he was "crazy", I think he just wanted to portray that he was!! I think he wanted people to fear him,so thats why he put on the " crazy" act. That last statement I made is an opinion but,one thing that is True.... He was just the BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE on this planet!!!!

[@pbrucpaul]

One hell of a way to finally grow up. But having a snack after the laBianca murders and the abhorrent way they conducted themselves in the trial; OMG. The fact that they beat the death penalty does not show well on their rehabilitation.

[@dfr3h6t]

Near the end she states she was "mesmerized and intrigued" and felt that "Manson was someone very special and extraordinary". Isn't this another way of saying she felt herself to be "extraordinary" by association? I think she enjoyed being part of the mayhem and carnage. She may have needed Tex to initially subdue Mrs La Bianca, but insinuating Tex then asked her to "do something" as a symbolic or ritual aspect of the slayings doesn't track. She wanted to kill. And now she is paroled. No longer a danger to society. Forgiveness is a powerful force.

[@sexycougar7140]

John MDM Leslie stabbed Mrs Labianca when she was already dead...she should have been paroled 30 years ago....

[@winterweib]

@@sexycougar7140 This is nonsense! Nobody knows if she was dead. Plus, even if she already had died; Leslie stabbed her _thinking_ she was alive. No mercy for this devil .

[@winterweib]

They can parole her as often as they want. That witch never will come out again Nobody wants to be remembered as 'the one who let a Mason murderer free, and let him/her walk straight back just into the middle of our society'.

[@pokeballmaster8939]

Why can’t they let her free Plz their are people that serious killer that get to go free look at the murder of mj his doctor was out by the 4 years he didn’t show any crying or sad at all

[@Jersey.D3vil201]

@@pokeballmaster8939 Because of the influence she may have on others, her psych report, if she may deteriorate when she is paroled...there is a lot that goes into letting someone out on parole. And comparing Michael Jackson's doctor to cold blooded murder is like comparing apples and oranges. Are you familiar with the Manson case??

[@andyappleton3353]

"she was on her stomach and I stabbed her". Then hearing that Rosemary LaBianca had died was "too much". Kill this person.

[@sexycougar7140]

Andy Appleton go off yourself:-)

[@sexycougar7140]

Andy Appleton lol

[@andyappleton3353]

Sexy Cougar lol

[@markbrodie2784]

She has no remorse. Cold and banal.

[@connievino4226]

Still hate her so many excuses. Her father goes on Larry King to get her out. Bet he would not let her live with him.

[@ssleuoariew]

Most people don't get that. When all the appeals are finally said and done and the execution is finally carried out, it's like twice as much than having someone be in prison for the rest of their lives

[@eyemnew2991]

It's too bad the panel doesn't have a video of that event so these lizards can watch it and see what they did.

[@ssleuoariew]

Either way her life is fucked, she will never get out of prison and be a free person again. Let it go already

[@karmalevel]

no tears

[@kimsullivan5576]

Leslie Van Houten was released from prison, last Month

[@gbacrila]

Well ya know what Leslie? It was real! Tell it to Sharon's family. No one cares how you feel about it now. You made your proverbial bed.... Now lie in it!!

[@Silversage1955]

I remember him going to jail and then to prison, nothing about him being in any kind of Medical Facility! There is nothing normal about Manson, he should of been committed to a mental facility not sent to a Medical facility!

[@woundedwomb]

Remember when she got out of jail and went to the OSCARS?

[@winterweib]

I DO. And that is proof how great that hag think it would be!

[@jgrothou]

Why in Gods name did she attend the Oscars?

[@EmilyJones-ey3df]

She went in 1978 as the guest of a friend

[@sonjamomberger556]

What a horrible crime.

[@angelsimone1278]

Leslie was under Manson's influence its doesn't matter she took two people's lives and she could have gotten away if she wanted too but that just goes to show you how weak she was, and she doesn't deserve to be in society Leslie should have had the gas chamber but the state of CA changed it! Leslie could have made better choices in her life she was home coming queen in her school and I don't blame her parents for her upbringing I blame Leslie for making stupid choices and not standing up to Manson*** She said she is sorry but she will answer to GOD for what she did to LaBianca

[@junerose-sommer5494]

You threw your life away. That's a shame for anyone to do. I feel sorry for your poor parents but not for you. You are inherently evil. You committed a henious crime and showed no mercy. But now you're expecting mercy from the courts??? You've played the blame the entire time and have never taken responsibility for your own actions!! I hope you never get out of prison.

[@watsonspuzzle]

She is so odd. She's got a shallow but polished veneer, and if I met her in some other circumstance, I'd probably like her. But, I don't see a single bit of remorse about how she stabbed Mrs. Labianca god knows how many times. She's always minimizing her involvement. I'm glad to see that when she got older she realized this nice girl personna wasn't going to get her anywhere. She doesn't have normal feelings.

[@kaynemccully5266]

I know, she acts somewhat autistic. I wonder if she is? I am serious.

[@dorothysue1]

OTHER PEOPLE LEFT! Why didn't you leave Leslie? You will die in jail.

[@dorothysue1]

of course I will die, and so will you. We all die!

[@dorothysue1]

+museack These murderers were given the Death Penalty! Then California threw out the Death Penalty and they were commuted to Life. They will never get out of prison. I wasn't their Judge, or Jury. It was the State of California.

[@jumperguy9867]

+dorothysue1 - California didn't throw out the death penalty. The US Supreme Court found that California's death penalty system was unconstitutional, in that it did not guarantee due process. So, all death penalties were rescinded and changed to life sentences. Because Van Houten's lawyer died during her first trial, her conviction was vacated (she should have received a mistrial) and she was re-tried. She was sentenced at the re-trial to life in prison with the possibility of parole. Any other first time offender (this was the ONLY crime she was ever convicted of), even murderers, who are given the opportunity for parole, don't spend FORTY-SIX years in prison. She is not still in prison because of the nature of her crime. She is still in prison because her crime was associated with Charles Manson. And therein lies the injustice.

[@donk6765]

+museack your an idiot

[@donk6765]

+Jumper Guy the only injustice here, is that she and the rest of the family weren't executed for being a murderous cult. a man getting forty plus years for narcotics sales is an injustice, this my friend is well deserved.

[@robertnickel7279]

She sure was a looker in her time. Still wouldn't care to run into her with a knife in her hand even to this day, old as she is by now. Keep her inside until she dies there is the best course to take I believe? And especially keep Tex Watson and Manson there at any cost.

[@cjh661]

i had a friend once who lived in the waverly gardens, at 3O16 waverly. lovely place, full of trees. i remember there was always a neighborhood patrol truck from like westec or securitas driving or parked in the neighborhood.