The Rings of Power is officially bad

[@CounciloftheRings]

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[@DieGlobalists]

The sea is always wrong

[@istari0]

And rocks do look downward.

[@CounciloftheRings]

@@istari0 yes! stinky rocks

[@parker2520]

Rings of Prime is the apotheosis of corporate media in thia era of corporate media. The amount of support so many online platforms, creators, and other Tolkien entities went out of their way to give this overt insult to Tolkien's work is beyond me.

[@marvinbange1216]

I mean its pretty safe to say that most were paid promotions :D

[@dmdebruijn]

Yes exactly- Nerd of the Rings did this.

[@MetalSeasSiren]

When there is a lack of love, it shows. Those who love these works should be the storytellers.

[@rebellious_red7123]

After the first episode, I knew it was going to bastardize Tolkein's work, and I'm glad it's finally being acknowledged as a failure.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Well Salke from Amazon came out and said people wanted to portray the series as a failure, but apparently it's not (according to her... and her alone).

[@rebellious_red7123]

@@CounciloftheRings that’s called delusional logic

[@JohnPopcorn06]

For me the first few seconds already put on an edge.

[@rebellious_red7123]

@@JohnPopcorn06 to be fair the trailer was pretty off putting as well, but I wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt. And my gut reaction was right

[@jneumy566]

I mean, they can only keep lying about it's "success" for so long. They don't have Christmas Prime subscribers to fall back on anymore

[@CoffeeBrainzz]

What pisses me off the most is how blatantly manipulative they try to be!! They kept saying this series doesn’t tie into the films, it’s in its own universe… ok fine sounds great…… THEN they go and replace the original book covers with Rings Of Power illustrations!!! Literally trying psychological gymnastics to make people think the two series are related! BS 💩

[@Relics_of_Arda]

"Nobody cares for the lore anymore." - Treebeard

[@CounciloftheRings]

That was one of the first memes I made actually XD

[@Relics_of_Arda]

@@CounciloftheRings 😄

[@asarishepard8171]

All I gotta say is, now they're agreeing with us? We already knew it was bad!

[@Satanikosnanos]

I believe that dialogue can be objectively quantified on different merits. For instance, its tonality, its logical cohesion and its propriety to the era the main drama is portrayed in. From the top of my head, the initial 'parable' with the stone and the ship on the very first episode leaves a lot to be desired in its cohesion as its meaning is completely esoteric knowledge to the writers. It cannot be easily decrypted and has little meaning to the unfolding drama. It is more of a liability than a benefit to the episode and, as such, can be considered an objectively lacking piece of writing.

[@Geckoboy1.0]

I'd completly forgotten about the Rings of Power. You have brought all that trauma back. Thanks for that!😜

[@CounciloftheRings]

😂😂

[@pattonramming1988]

I couldn't watch the previews without wanting to vomit

[@CounciloftheRings]

"Well some people like vomit! How dare you judge!" - RoP shill

[@offtheshelfET]

3:35 Facts. I think there are people who take criticism of things they like as a personal offense against their intelligence when it doesn't have to be. I like films that I realize are bad, The Last Jedi, the Star Wars prequels, the Hobbit trilogy. It's ok to admit the thing you like might not be great

[@randomdude8877]

"Give me the meat, and give it to me RAW" Still the best line of the series lol. That was comedy gold indeed

[@CounciloftheRings]

Best line of the Ages

[@asarishepard8171]

Sometimes my sister will randomly say to me " the sea is always right." Its so dumb :)

[@CounciloftheRings]

@@asarishepard8171 lol

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

How amazing it would have been if the season ended instead with the One Ring showing up as Galadriel realised who Sauron is as he incapacitates her, sure it breaks Lore but it would have made her depowering here make sense and actually serve a function and all that build up be more than worth it. Something like Galadriel: there was no Heir to the Southlands Sauron: I can explain Galadriel: who are you and what is your purpose here Sauron: This *activates the One Ring, Galadriel: ahh *writhes in pain as her ring is dominated by Sauron Sauron: Celebrimbor made fine Rings of Power, if I say so myself, truly beautiful worthy of Feanor, however it still pales compared to mine. Galadriel: *screams more, the Rings, what have you done. Sauron: in due time, however I am giving you a choice, stay by my side, be my sword and consort and together we can save Middle Earth from Chaos. Galadriel: * looks in disgust Sauron: think about it, no more petty politics, no more chains to bind you only your Will and Mine. Galadriel: No, you do not command me Servant of Morgoth. Sauron: A pity, than I am afraid we have none left to discuss, my Lady, take her to the dungeons*as he leaves to make Mordor

[@mo-mo-p5t]

The sea is always right… Charlie Hopkinson’s comedy sketch on this and other scenes helped me get through it.

[@Patdeamon]

I came for RoP reviews and stayed for your passion for Tolkien! But I wouldn't mind you reviewing a second season because my body and soul could barely endure 8 episodes of RoP. So if you'd take this life threatening quest for season two for the sake of the rest of us, I'm in!

[@CounciloftheRings]

I might need a ring from Sauron so I don't fade away, but then again that also happens with a ring... I guess the pain is guaranteed, but hopefully I'll get through it and not rage quit hahaha

[@squaeman_2644]

Good God let's hope there's nothing to review...

[@tomasshulman5294]

The only good thing about this show is that I got to know great reviewers such as yourself. Seriously, your second age series is outstanding, and I cannot understand how a single person can develop a much better adaptation than a whole team getting fortunes of payment. It's the intellectual equivalent of Hurin slaying 70 trolls and orcs.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Hahaha thank you! It’s always a good day to be compared to Húrin 😁

[@mr_jyggalag]

The second best thing that come out from RoP is a bunch of concept-arts for my DnD campaigns)

[@marieskavo7159]

Fully agree 👍

[@mattfugitt8511]

Just words is absolutely correct. There is a ton of dialogue where it sounds deep, but if you think about it at all it's utter nonsense. Thanks for sharing your hot take.

[@CounciloftheRings]

No problem! Thanks for leaving a comment 😁

[@tabbycat55]

I was finally done with the Mithril origin story. That can’t be undone or changed. I won’t watch another season, but will totally watch your recap. Thanks for your sacrifice! 🤣🙏

[@midwestsecurityinc8477]

No! You will watch…. And you will love it!!!

[@Itstwofourteen]

I smelled the festering bullshit from miles away ever since seeing those first trailers and promos. Before that, I was mildly excited, but that changed fast... 😮‍💨 Quick story: My roommate and best friend, who is a major Tolkien fan and way more knowledgeable of the lore than I'll ever be, wanted to give it a chance. I'm talking about The Silmarillion, the letters, unfinished tales, etc. The man has read them all many, many times. He's a smart as hell dude. Now what on God's green earth compelled him to want to give it a try? I don't know man, out of principle, I guess. I told him it looked horrible, but he wanted to see it for himself. Maybe he wanted to form his own opinion about it. After watching one episode (in his room, because I didn't want anything to do with it), he emerged from it with a thousand yard stare, absolutely distraught and in shock, sitting mostly quietly in the living room, with the occasional "what the fuck" here and there. I felt kinda bad for laughing at that moment, lol. Motherfucker looked like he had just seen a ghost or some shit, something unholy and and blasphemous and eldritch not meant for human eyes 😅 But he did confirm my suspicions on the show: it was an abomination. He made it to episode 2 or 3 (can't remember) before rage-quitting it. At that point, he was just pissed. Should've never even started it in the first place.

[@gerisaccomanno7422]

Sounds like many of us were your roommate

[@pachuko5192]

I know it will be frustrating, but I really did appreciate your review of season one, it was highly critical but you seemed to resist the temptation to bandwagon and stuck to substantive criticism and even gave it the benefit of the doubt. I fell into the youtube hole of watching many reviews of the series (many, many) and I found yours to stand out as the clear best and most thoughtful (and fair) reviews. Thanks for your fine work.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thank you! Yeah I watched a ton of reviews along with my own and noticed a lot of people just focused on it "being woke", "bad casting" or just repeating themselves saying "it's not Tolkien" without pointing out what exactly is wrong. I tried to go with my own style and especially the scores at the end is an element I wished more channels would include in their reviews. I've often watched a show and felt parts of it was good, but that a specific element really made the show worse (bad acting, bad dialogue, weak storytelling etc.). It felt important to me to distinct lore from other elements of film-making at least.

[@pachuko5192]

@@CounciloftheRings Thanks for the reply. While I have you I thought I'd mention also that the artwork you show in the reviews and in the lore videos is absolutely phenomenal, really appreciate that element in particular.

[@CounciloftheRings]

@@pachuko5192 Good to know! Thanks!

[@mr_jyggalag]

This. I love reviews from Council, as well from Random Film Talks

[@mikestanmore2614]

Yes, my experience as well. Well done, Council.

[@Tedger]

Galadriel's actor was very un elf like... and had total lack of charisma... also elven hair styles.. uhh.. and the romance.. fuk.. about 3 episodes was enough for me.

[@kilkennyrose7099]

Thank you, I unsubscribed to several when they became shills for the atrocity that Amazon made. I was so glad that you were not one of them. Bless you.

[@pt6238]

It is kind of sad. With so much money, it could have been amazing. They only forgot to put that money in good writers and actors. I am still confused why they ever made this afterthought of an afterthought.

[@haleyschreiter9746]

Thank you for speaking out in defense of Tolkien's works and common sense, Council! I truly do appreciate you and others watching the show so I don't have to 😊

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

Agreed! Hear hear

[@JCO2002]

I didn't manage to watch even one episode. Gave up after 36 minutes, in two tries, when it was clear it had nothing to do with Tolkien.

[@oldchannel_MoM]

Your take on everything Tolkien is at least 10x way better than other youtubers. I've used to play videos from European Lore, Disparu, Nerdrotic, Yellow Flash and etc. But all of them except Disparu are borderline hateful and they invoke political stupidity esp EL and YF. If trying to defeat Rings of Power and its abomination is making them lose composure, then they've become what they are fighting against. Thanks for your insightful and composed manner, your videos are majestic!

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thank you 🙏

[@talks2munch802]

I made it 20 minutes into the pilot. I tried so hard to give it a fair chance, but it's unwatchable. People who watched the whole show are genuinely impressive even if they have terrible taste.

[@CounciloftheRings]

I found the lack of logic in the show insulting. It honestly felt like you needed to have a low IQ in order to enjoy it. Don't question anything... just watch

[@asarishepard8171]

I watched it all for a laugh and I had to see how bad it got. It's worse than we say. And I will never watch another minute of it agsin. I'll stick to reviews.

[@TheItalianPepe]

I didn't get past the intro. 6 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

[@asarishepard8171]

@@TheItalianPepe do i get a medal for watching it all?? i had to see how bad it was.

[@cottawalla]

Those people who watched season one must have been living in airport lounges.

[@Divine_Chareka]

House of the Dragon completely destroyed Rings of Power. People thought the 2 shows will be rivals & that was the most exciting part of it all. Sad how things turned out to be. It would've been a very good fantasy battle for a decade.

[@sonicfreak04]

ring of power:" you've beaten me at my own game" house of dragons:" don't flatter yourself, you were never even a player"

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

I appreciate you not selling out. I unsubbed several channels when it was obvious they were shills.

[@jonbuono7826]

" I will endure the pain and pray I can get through season 2 without losing my mind. "

[@cjgeminitarot6836]

I really appreciated your tone throughout your reviews. So much of the criticisms online were of the Nerdrotic kind- ragey clickbait. It’s clear you’re a fan of Tolkien and you had substantial criticisms that you presented without screaming.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Yeah keeping calm was key to me, hahaha. Not always an easy task, but it felt better making jokes about it than just raging

[@gmypooh4224]

Glad I’m not the only one who feels this way!!! I’m a big LOTR fan and was actually looking forward to this show but I only watched 2 episodes and completely stopped🤦🏾‍♂️

[@swordmonkey6635]

The easiest metric I've found to measure the viewer enjoying the RoP is this: The more you know about Tolkien's world (read LOTR, The Silmarillion and at least The Book of Lost Tales Vol 1 and 2) the less you enjoy RoP. The less you know about Tolkien's world (never read the books, only saw the movies, or neither), the more you'll enjoy RoP. There are exceptions due to social and political agendas, but the Venn diagram of the two groups don't converge very much.

[@dmdebruijn]

I hope the account “Nerd of the Rings” is not allowed on the Council of the Rings. It seems clear he was paid by Amazon. He kept finding reasons to “love” the show, like….humming the music 🤦‍♂️

[@thebrotherskrynn]

Yeah, I think you were the first, I remember speaking up about my own concerns on my channel shortly thereafter, and I believe Yoystan, GnG & Red-Book voiced similar concerns around the same time too. Man, this show was a disaster, which is why your adaptation is such a joy to view!

[@talesoftheeldar8688]

Concil of rings ,seeing your Second Age show makes Rings of Power even more bad than it already was and seeing what we could have gotten in comparasion with what we got makes me sad

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks! Yeah it's what provokes me the most too

[@L00ww]

"the sea is always right" is a good motto, as in "make a mistake on the sea and you are f****d" like, you cant argue with the sea

[@MrFester]

I would like to know where that 465 million went into. Aside from the initial 250 million for the rights alone. Seems like a epic ton of wasteful spending went on.

[@Sol-Amar]

Stolen like the Silmarils!

[@asarishepard8171]

One of my friends who doesn't know about the woke stuff currently told me she couldn't get through half of ep one. Even to the unknowing it registers wrong to people. And she loved the Peter Jackson films so its not an ignorance of Tolkien!

[@marieskavo7159]

I have not watched one minute of rop and plan not to, bc I do not want to give Amazon one penny. But I have watched ton of reviews of the show and find them to be both educational, funny and also tragic. My heart bleeds every time I think what could have been done with that money, if put into right hands. The mess they created is a disgrace.

[@genehenrylindgren]

As I have said elsewhere All this series is is a D&D scenario set on a map of middle earth.

[@fbnaulin]

I watched Season 1 for curiosity and enjoyed and shared your reviews of each episode. But, I won't be watching Season 2, now that would be a crime against my wellbeing.

[@alintemirtzi170]

Hi, What about your episode 3 of your own Rings of Power? Did you make a statement that I missed?

[@CounciloftheRings]

Yeah I've made a couple of posts where I mentioned the last 8 episodes of season 1 will come out in September and October 😁 It takes quite a while to produce, so I need some time so it can be released on a weekly basis.

[@alintemirtzi170]

@@CounciloftheRings thanks👍

[@MetalSeasSiren]

Everything I needed to learn about RoP, I learned here or from others who truly love the stories. These original stories came from a place of love and a quest for understanding. These stories saved a man from the horrors of war, along with countless others. People who love the stories are the ones who should be entrusted with the storytelling.

[@deanzaZZR]

We need a bumper sticker "I Survived Amazon Rings of Power". I turned into a hate watcher and enjoyed cheeky review channels such as Council of the Rings.

[@earlofdoncaster5018]

It's 𝙤𝙗𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚𝙡𝙮 bad as an adaptation of Tolkien's works because of the lore in tramples on. I don't think there is a case for asserting that RoP is 𝙤𝙗𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚𝙡𝙮 bad as a stand alone drama, although subjectively the viewing figures do offer evidence of it's failure.

[@21palica]

Guyladriel...needs no man. Where's Celeborn?

[@Enerdhil]

Celeborn is pregnant with Celebrian so he could not partake in any dangerous activities.🤪

[@Tallacus]

Amazon Employee here and also a lover of High Fantasy. I had been working at a fulfillment center for the past 3 years going through all the turmoil of the plandemic. And now with the recession Amazon has been cutting back our hours and making it harder for us to get shifts as they had driven away most of the customers with their $15 delivery fee. So when I see their billion dollar venture into making one of the most beautiful pieces of fiction another piece of woke propaganda fail, I cheered. Amazon has forgotten to prioritize those of us who toil away actually making the real money in the company as we have to work our asses off to even be able to qualify for a human right that is healthcare.

[@chucknorris8704]

As bad as ROP was, the She-Hulk TV show was far worse. I experienced physical and mental pain watching that garbage.

[@courtneycaitlin8943]

I’m so glad to hear you’ll review Season 2! My husband and I had a weekly RoP roast session where we’d pour a glass of bourbon, watch the new episode, and then watch your review immediately after. 😂

[@CounciloftheRings]

Hahahah at your service!

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@CounciloftheRings ditto! I remember your long sighs when talking about how they butchered the lore.

[@deanzaZZR]

Now that's doing it in style. 🥃

[@aggiefarfromhome9642]

Thank you for watching and reviewing to save so many from the pain and loss of precious time!

[@ballantynemoyes8019]

I managed 3 episodes, realised it was not going to get any better and dropped it. A travesty and should never have been made. The Tolkien estate must be like the Christie estate - anything for money.

[@gabrielsalesmartins]

Finally, a channel that really talks about the problems of the series, and not either calling it woke or accusing the failure to be because people are calling the series woke. This series is waaaaasy too shitty, no need to bring those.

[@tmaziriri]

Cheese has no friends though, and I haven't seen a seagull drinking tea on any given Friday, sooooo....

[@Aguirremari0]

Ahahaha our dreams are chaotic just like ROP. It's a good one. From the perspective of a plot building and serie planning for this show, it is. Patrick McKay and John D. Payne had 8 little dreams, but they wrote a nightmare for the lore.

[@CounciloftheRings]

I just find it a bit comedic you could edit out the entire Harfoot plotline and it would make no difference for the other plotlines XD

[@Aguirremari0]

@@CounciloftheRings Ahaha the Harfoot plotline makes no difference to the Harfoot plotline. In the end, they exterminate themselves with their savage rules. And they wrote it as a comedy...

[@WMfin]

Try as I may, I couldn't even hate watch it to the end. Last thing I saw was when they got Pompeii'd.

[@victorjohnson7512]

When your elf princess looks like she belongs on a lesbian softball team, it's a firm failure.

[@cursling9]

I wonder if they'll still say the sea is always right after it swallows their island....

[@CounciloftheRings]

A bit cynical perhaps XD thousands of innocent people drown in the sea and Elendil looks back: "The sea is still always right!"

[@deanzaZZR]

@@CounciloftheRings 🤭😂

[@cursling9]

Just please PLEASE don't let some minor character mutter the phrase just before being engulfed by a tidal wave....think that cringe Pirates of the Caribbean "its just good business" 🤮

[@paolopesare3566]

This is hilarious 😂😂😂

[@BeyondYore]

If I have ever been sure of something, than about not watching a single episode of season 2. I gave Season 1 a fair chance and always watched the first 4 episodes before watching any reviews or else, but after that I just couldn't get on with it. The fact that Amazon is keeping the McKaye(?) and Payne for more tells me everything I need to know about the follow up. And after all, why would I want to know more about this series than what I can pick up on channels like this one! For that matter I am looking forward to tearing it apart when it returns. My condolences for everyone, who's suffering through it to give us a good time!

[@daxammight]

It’s nice to see a KZbin channel that covers a particular IP have integrity. Some channels want to be in good standing no matter what, so they turn to shilling.

[@gerisaccomanno7422]

I forced my self to watch the first 2 episodes but when Eldendil showed up, at least 1800 years too early, I switched the tv off.

[@CounciloftheRings]

😁

[@tylerskiss]

More importantly, I think we need to revoke the self-proclaimed designation of “Tolkien Scholar” that these very obvious shills claim to represent. There was so much dishonest praise for this absurd garbage and people who shilled for the show should be exiled from polite society.

[@sagaswp]

I would say the big difference in your example about liking bad movies, you can actually admit the movie was bad, and still like it. The Rings of Prime apologists, just like the Wheel of Time apologists, can't fathom that the show isn't good and try to argue it's the best thing since sliced bread.

[@CounciloftheRings]

True true

[@papemoe]

Had a comment up earlier, dont know what happened to it... Oh well... Nice Vid Council ... I watched the whole show... and unless amazon prices me out, will probably watch season 2. The Issue with RoP was the producers trying to do too much. The time compression killed any semblance of truth in the "back to the book" statement they tried to feed us early on. It was very disappointing and very disheartening to read see and hear so many in the Tolkien sphere stand up and say that the series was in good hands... when it should have been obvious that it wasnt. The story JRRT lays out, even in the appendices forms the frame work for any story you would want to tell. Story provides the frame work, the characters & their development fill the frame work, and both elements push the plot lines forward. But that never happened. There were multiple stunted story lines that they followed in S1. The Elf maiden with and incurable case of PMS, Elrond with a pompadour who apparently likes to wear drapes... his dwarven buddy who's so hormonal that he cries over a missed wedding... which ties into Celebrimbor the Aged, who happens to be the most renown elven smith since his grandfather, but needs to be taught about alloys by some chucklehead who happens to be a malevolent Maia... etc etc This could have been so much better... could have told the same story, via flash backs to different times, places, peoples... finally culminating the series with the reveal of the one ring... but no, instead we get a big pile of blah... which is the worst sin imaginable...

[@rjb10101]

I would rather be surrounded by NeekerBreekers than watch the next series.... I will on the other hand, watch people rip it apart,,,,,

[@Enerdhil]

Touché NeekeeBreekers are much easier to listen to than Warrior Galadriel.

[@CounciloftheRings]

You get an extra lore thumbs up 👍 for that joke 😆

[@DieGlobalists]

Cant wait to watch your videos on season 2 (if not cancelled). It will be hard to fix the dismal foundation of garbage in S1(Tolkien turning in his grave). They can only save it by covering the many cities and battles in the SA: SA: 1693 -1701 War of the Elves and Sauron, Sauron driven from Eriador by Númenóreans to Mordor, 3 Rings hidden, Eregion ruin, Rivendell/Imladris built, Death Celebrimbor. SA: 1800 -2350 Lond Daer Enedh built, Umbar became Númenor fortress, Pelargir Númenórean main haven built SA: 3262 -3341 Sauron prisoner in Númenor. Great Armament warships invade Aman, Númenor sinks; Changing of the World, Arnor and Gondor founded and the cities built. Sauron takes Minas Ithil. War of the Last Alliance, includes Battle of Dagorlad, Siege of Barad-dûr, Sauron defeat, loses One Ring, Deaths Ar-Pharazôn, Mariel, Amdír, Oropher, Anárion, Gil-galad, Elendil

[@misterp4865]

If season 2 will be like the first season, I cannot see how they could continue this series. The visuals can only make up for so much.

[@CounciloftheRings]

indeed

[@ultrabumblebee]

Agreed!

[@PatrickCoyle23]

It won’t be like the first season. It will be worse. Much worse.

[@RidleyCinema]

Bad is a understatement, it's an abomination that goes against everything Tolkien was and is modern woke politics and bad storytelling wrapped in the skin of Middle Earth. In the coming years I'll be just a dark spot in Tolkien history that most fans will forget exist and if it's ever acknowledge will be laughed at and shamed for existing much like Dragon Ball Evolution (sorry I had to remind you that existed)

[@WolfeRavenwood]

I am a simple Rohirrim, while i won't watch stuff about this disgrace of tolkien anymore, i still click a like.

[@rickythe2nd63]

That show sucked so badly until it's not even funny! 😂

[@micahp.4356]

It's like watching a tumor grow in your face at an accelerated rate. There's nothing about this show that will ever make me watch a full episode.

[@phunnyguy9382]

Can we all just call it for what it is the Rings of Prime. Nothing else.

[@hurryupharryg]

Any update on the Kingdoms of arda mod?

[@CounciloftheRings]

There are some community posts on my other channel Macbeth of Gondor. I hope to make another video on that channel soon

[@jimbeaux89]

I LOVE Tolkien and his works, as well as the LoTR trilogy. I somewhat also enjoy the hobbit trilogy. Key word SOMEWHAT lol I haven’t even bothered watching rings of power. I refuse to submit myself to such an amateur attempt at Tolkien’s work. Just like I refuse to watch anything Star Wars under Disney. No thanks, I’ll stick to the books and Jackson’s movies.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Understandable

[@lordbane5627]

Your commitment to honesty when it came to this show is why I subscribed to this channel in the first place (and unsubbed from some others). This show was nothing short of a betrayal to Tolkien fans, and a stab in the back to the hardcore fans; and there can be no accountability or justice without honesty.

[@ultrabumblebee]

I am part of that 37%...for having my own opinion on it, I'm glad I finished it but I wish I didn't It felt so game cutscene-y and not at all Tolkien - and I adore his work and the original LoTR movies (Hobbit was meh, okay) - made my teenage-hood. But my gosh...this show was trash. Pretty to look at. Writing. Forced messages through changes they did. No I will not be watching season 2. And if it weren't for gaming, I would have deleted prime right after the last episode.

[@TurinTuram]

There's so much to say but i'll just talk about one aspect. The scope. For a serie with so much money I don't understand the scope choices. For all I know there's just about 200 persons living in middle earth eating dirt and smelling like poo. Same thing in Numenor? except some CGI shots all we see is a couple of random place with ordinary dudes here and there that look grumpy and stupid most of the time. Is Numemor a fancy village of 100 persons now?. So all the politics and plot twists and harsh decision feel very much lighter than it should be. The baaadd, very bad scope push me out of the show. The casual may find it more interesting that way but not me.

[@tubey84]

Inaccuracy wouldn't be a problem on it's own. The bigger problem is it was just absolutely terrible.

[@ryankwon8785]

The only thing I liked was Bear McCreary's soundtrack (Ex. Sauron, Kazad-Dum, and Numenor).

[@harrymavridis848]

The show had flaws. 9/10 Nerd of the rings. 🤑

[@AxelQC]

I've read the Silmarillion 3 times, and I couldn't even get through the 1st episode.

[@Phillibetrus]

Who cares about Amazon's season 2 when we have Council of the Rings' 2nd age season 2 to look forward to?

[@w-james9277]

I knew we are in for a rough ride when I saw the photos of elves with short hair.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Hahaha yeah I'll never get over that either

[@MetalSeasSiren]

Hair has often been symbolic of great, spiritual strength. This is not a surprising move. It is a message that the good within the stories is going a different direction.

[@upschutt4842]

Thank you for enduring. And in case you do lose your mind be assured it won't hurt that much anymore - I hope. God bless you.

[@TheCasimir94]

Even if they had f*cked up the lore they still didnt know how to make a fun show. There was nothing that i enjoyed about it.

[@BeowulfCav]

I'm sorry, if any Tolkien channel played softball with this terrible series they lost my respect immediately. The things they do to Galadriel and Tolkien's world in general is so disrespectful and egregious it needs to be said.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Aye! The other day there was a big RoP-Galadriel fan on X (Twitter). I just couldn't stand it and had to reply hahaha

[@dragoonzen]

Lol, less than 37% finished the show. I watched it in it's entirety in order to watch your breakdown of it afterwards... 😅

[@CounciloftheRings]

Hahaha yeah exactly I heard that from a colleague as well XD

[@synx5196]

straight up false advertising

[@workerdroid290]

Your reviews of season one were very good, best by far of the many Chanel’s reviewing this series. Love the fact checks, considered analysis and comments. Well done. Honestly, I think this debacle is due to the people and culture of the writers and producers….all looking to be popular, edgy and funny, in their own way. The result is a very poorly assembled show, with disgraceful effort on dialogue, costumes, and pace. The obvious deviations from established Tolkien lore became irritating and disrespectful, again, I think due to the lazy and feel-good culture of the production staff. Altogether, an opportunity wasted, and a worthless show. Enjoy your videos, please keep going.

[@Goldenspiderducck]

0:42 Liberty for the horse!

[@YamiSpyroX]

Y'know something went wrong when a frickin' Marvel looking D&D movie turns out more Faithful than a Tolkien TV show. As this stands ROP can only be enjoyed as an so Bad it's so Good 'Laugh at the Memes' show. (I just hope Dragon Lance is better!)

[@Queenfloofles]

It was such a disappointment. No understanding of the source material, awful writing, the reliance on happenstance and illogically character choices. I hate watched the first series. I'm not touching the second one.

[@swordmonkey6635]

The ONLY redemption I see a season two RoP having is if they pulled a "it was all just a dream" trope with Galadriel waking up at the beginning of the first episode gasping and clutching her chest. Celeborn (laying next to her in bed) would awake and ask "What is wrong beloved?" And Galadriel would have a thousand mile stare toward the end of the bed and say "I just had the most horrible of dreams. You were not with me. A random man turned out to be Sauron and the world was completely wrong...." Then she walks over to the window overlooking Lindon. "Completely wrong..."

[@gerisaccomanno7422]

That still wouldn't work because she would have dreamt of the rings and would know something was wrong when Annatar and Celebrimbor start making them; it would have to be Sauron waking up in a blind panic from a nightmare about some ghastly uber-Karen, however that's where he gets the idea of making rings.

[@swordmonkey6635]

@@gerisaccomanno7422 Nah, like any dream, she'd forget the details soon enough and just keep a sneaking suspicion of anyone wanting to show elves jewelry crafting. lol It was also backstop the fact she never did completely trusted Annatar in the books.

[@flareinc7413]

Iirc Amazon made a deal to produce 5 seasons of the Rings of Power so pretty sure we will get more. -____- One of my friends proved he knows very little of Tolkien-lore when he said he liked the show more than he disliked it. :D

[@CounciloftheRings]

My friend’s little brother likes it too sadly 😂

[@richardrose2606]

Who did Amazon make a deal with?

[@RandomIdiotGS]

Let's face it, absolutely nobody out there believed for a second that the Rings of Power could be good and that they would not end up ruining the lore. Or end up with horrible, horrible casting. Of course it was a bit surprising to see all the glowing reviews come out, but then again it wasn't. Because, oh yes: paid reviews as usual. What a surprise. Why deliver honest criticism when you can get paid royalties so other fools will buy for the product that gets you paid royalties, hmm? And why write and film something good by understanding the mindset of the single author of a story like Tolkien and putting effort into doing something with that, when you can just slap the LotR brand on some random BS you thought of in five seconds to automatically start making money of an existing fan community.

[@colinharbinson8284]

They chose Tolkien's stories because of his huge fan base, and then corrupted it, why on Middle Earth did they think that would work?..

[@kalzium8857]

I mean they were warned that this show won't be good. One does not simply make a lotr series.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

I barely made it through episode one..!

[@Alagachak]

Season 2... reboot the whole thing and do it right.

[@DarkAnarchy666]

Not gonna watch a single episode of season 2. I'll watch everything through your reviews. My thoughts are it will be canceled after season 2 as well. We can only hope.

[@BlackfireStudios_Lost]

Thank goodness it is. Can you imagine if this show was a success with the normies?

[@jscottyson]

Make that moneyyyyy!!!

[@tomasz9429]

I didn't watch RoP, just the videos about it on your channel. And these videos affirmed the impression I got from the marketing campaign. RoP was a macabre display of current day mental illnesses that devour the entertainment industry.