Drinker's Chasers - Rings of Power Humiliated: Only 1/3 Of Viewers Finished It

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

1/3 of people probably died of boredom and were included in the count due to autoplay features

[@BellaRigelOrion]

Ahahaha, this comment is solid gold! I couldn't understand how they got 1/3, you helped it make sense. 😉

[@inthefade]

😂

[@Zachary_s]

Ha!

[@Thrawn23.]

Those are the content creator

[@_GOD_HAND_]

Journalists: "Toxic fans are abandoning Amazon's smash hit Rings of Power, and that's a good thing"

[@kaj7135]

Can’t abandon something I’ve never watched and will never watch.

[@chipsterb4946]

“Toxic fan” is one of the most absurd oxymorons I’ve ever encountered.

[@floridaman6982]

Gonna be hard to sell this genre to non fans

[@Jadty]

Something something straight white males, something something the alt right, something something ist ism word salad.

[@xrosso6515]

@@chipsterb4946 toxic fan exist,everyone have different reason of why they like something,a toxic fan could be someone who like only an element and until there is that element is ready to destroy everything else, another toxic fan could be the one which workship a show ecc ecc,the problem is the people that are calling the fan toxic are people that are toxic and not fan, you can't destro/change every things about something and making something else and thinking you are in right,that is just being....i don't know crazy?bastard?stupid?everything wrong and more?

[@alexfriedman918]

I like that Salke admitted she doesn’t know the difference between real life and her own “internal dialogue” - tells us all we need to know!

[@slimbombur7922]

in medical terms that is called schizophrenia

[@gridley]

A lot of people in the entertainment industry are analogous to artistic-creative versions of Alvin Bragg.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

Let's be honest, who work at Hollywood (well, pretty much every celebrity in the world) seems to live in another planet when they talk about "reality" like they care about it

[@IBriefcase]

Her delusion is borderline psychotic, it's almost impressive. She has got to go.

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@giulizpaviz6381 this is the producer though, so even worse.

[@JustinCredible-i6y]

I don't know if those 1/3 viewers deserve a medal or medical attention🎖🏥😁

[@shan4680]

Well, I have it on good authority from a few of these people had the show on from start to finish but they might have been doing just a few other things while it was on, though.

[@JustinCredible-i6y]

Thinking about it both I think🤣

[@Сайтамен]

They are KZbin reviewers.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Therapy probably. . . . . . .

[@GoldsteinShekelbergSwartz]

1/3 viewers are masochists in other words.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Tolkien Lore: *exists* Amazon: "I'll ignore that."

[@chasehedges6775]

Peter Jackson and JRR Tolkein : 😡😡😡

[@6581punk]

Funny how as soon as this series appeared a whole raft of "Tokien was racist" articles and research appeared.

[@kaj7135]

@@6581punk Damage control aka propaganda.

[@sebastiancruz-ts1qq]

In Hollywood you go upwards if you fail

[@scionofdorn9101]

Much like KK ignored the Star Wars EU. To quote Star Trek, "The sheer fucking hubris," of these producers, executives, and directors.

[@Batman_94]

I'm pretty sure more than half of those were just hate watching

[@silverhost9782]

Right, my parents watched it all the way through and they're STILL complaining about how shit it was lmao

[@chasehedges6775]

@@silverhost9782 Your parents are the best and I think my parents would be the same way.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@silverhost9782My Grandmother grew up in the 50s with the LOTR books and I think she would despise this show

[@gingerandbroke1402]

I was hate skimming through it

[@lindsay1989]

Yes including me!

[@AHersheyHere]

When your show has a worse survival rate than the Bataan death march.

[@lucyjordan3188]

Brutal!! Best comment yet!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@maofria1452]

Damn

[@IBriefcase]

😂😂😂 this comment has made my day.

[@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856]

JFC. lmao

[@TheMugwump1]

This is def the winner of the day

[@eurodoc6343]

The first episode told me everything I needed to know about this show. In that scene in the snow and ice, Galadriel is showing point by point that she is the very definition of a toxic leader. Yet the writers think the very things that make her toxic are actually commendable attributes.

[@oblivionsa7973]

Unless she was a man, then they'd immediately scream "toxic masculinity".

[@alexfriedman918]

Never watched a minute on Amazon, but I’ve seen at least 20 hours worth of videos roasting RoP, and thoroughly enjoyed most of it!

[@katgirl3000]

Me too!! hahaha :D

[@jeffcleghorn1223]

As to Galadrial's strength. She was MUCH MORE powerful in the books than here. Naturally it's been a few millennia but she was always regarded for her magical prowess not swinging a sword like nearly anyone else in Middle Earth. By the War of the Ring, she was instrumental in breaking the northern pincer of Sauron's army (Battle of Lonely Mountain/ not Five Armies/ I wish it was in a film somewhere.) By this time it was stated that Sauron's minions avoided her forests because nothing less than Sauron himself could hope to overcome Galadriel's power. Power you don't get by swinging a sword like everyone else.

[@sexistspaghettios]

Yep. 2 completely different types of power.

[@Jadty]

It’s a delicate, feminine way of exerting your power. Not saying that using magic is feminine, but for someone like Galadriel, a delicate feminine princess, this would be proper for her character. These wackos however, think that strong = masculine qualities, while at the same time criticizing those same qualities. Truly the work of mentally unwell people.

[@BertoxolusThePuzzled]

​@@Jadty These writers are the types of person who severely criticize what they are mad they don't have themselves...

[@grapeape888]

Mary Sue must swing sword and jump from horse! Hoorah!

[@zephyrerazortail5478]

Wow. I did not know that Sauron's forces didn't want to mess with her cos of her magic prowess. That scene in The Hobbit makes more sense now. The one she blasts an orc into oblivion. Yeah, seeing or hearing about that kind of power would make me run in the other direction as well.

[@matthewboehler2540]

I got up to the episode where Galadriel happens to find the dude on the raft as she was swimming across THE ENTIRE FUCKING OCEAN.

[@desmondjefferson2127]

Yup, I turned it OFF right when she just started swimming. I was gobsmacked that they decided to shoot that......how did the director just say, NO I'm not doing this, is beyond me.

[@mkeogh76]

When I told a relative that Galadriel just jumped into the middle of a vast ocean and started swimming and then later took a pyroclastic flow blast right in the face but got up no worse for wear except for a Cheeto dusting, she said: "Why didn't they her make her capable of flying as well?" Guy-ladriel may be worse than Rey as Mary Sues go.

[@libertas5005]

I didn't even know they did that in this show lmfao... that's so fucking bad hahahha

[@doomsdaybooty1072]

She randomly finds a raft, in the middle of the ocean. Then, the next day, a Numenorean ship randomly finds the raft in the middle of the ocean. Coincidence stacked on coincidence

[@4203105]

She finds *Sauron* on a raft, after swimming across an entire ocean... completely by chance.

[@damitcarl3942]

"Boats are sinky" Yes, thats how mythical eternal beings talk

[@harbl99]

"No! Stone go sinky, boaty floaty." -- Finrod, called Felagund ("Hewer of Caves") and Nóm ("Wisdom"), king of Nargothrond, also dubbed The Faithful and The Friend of Man, boon companion of Beren and Luthien in the quest for the Silmarils, fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwë, according to amazon.

[@damitcarl3942]

@@harbl99 "Unga Bunga (oops, yes) DamitCarl, likely an elf from Valinor

[@MollyHJohns]

​@@harbl99 I'm just a passerby but your sarcastic quote is too poetic to sound stupid and I love it 😂

[@The_Ronin1]

😂😂😂

[@tsutsuji1]

I was among the tribe that stopped watching ROP after only a few episodes (because the ones I saw were so boring), but I kept up with the plot of the episodes I missed by watching KZbinr reviews like Drinkers, Disparu and others. The negative reviews of ROP were far, far more entertaining than the show itself.

[@joeterzio7175]

You are the definition of a loser. I'm glad you were entertained by the weekly Klan reviews, though.

[@Claego]

Exactly the same for me. Don't think I'll ever watch the rest of it

[@kevinmccabe7263]

I did the same thing lol

[@drixc1]

I'm actually used to do so as well with all the new marvel and star wars movies/series since a few years already. It's more fun , and it's wasting less time.

[@Lonovavir]

On the plus side we now know where Sauron got all his human allies from.

[@aurasedge5580]

"You're not supposed to be representing our world, you're supposed to represent Tolkien's world." Spot on brother. That hand gesture from Mr. Magnus there is a perfect symbol for how we all feel on that subject. The core problem with Hollywood is that they keep taking these ideas from great writers and twisting them to say what they want them to say.

[@TheRedThirst]

I warned my wife going into it that it’d be woke crap and would be complete trash… “oh Red, you’ve just been watching too much EFAP and Nerdrotic” said the missus… she called it quits 3 episodes in hahahaha

[@lanz228]

bruhhh, as someone who haven't seen the show, id like to know what made her stop at the 3rd one 😭 😭

[@TheRedThirst]

@@lanz228 mainly the fact that Galadriel, one of the most ethereal and feminine icons in fantasy fiction, was now a warrior girl-boss who don’t need no man

[@floridashawn7317]

Yep. Me and the wife made it through 2 episodes. Still better than Wheel of Time, we couldn’t make it past the first episode.

[@TheRedThirst]

@20xitysix no, but whenever I’m right about these sort of things I play her the clip of Razorfist spinning around shouting “Fuck You, I was right!”

[@lanz228]

@@TheRedThirst LOL

[@ragnartheshiz3153]

I am so embarrassed to say that I did watch way too much of the Rings of Power. I watched the entire first 20 minutes of the first episode. I’m still kicking myself for not turning it off after ten.

[@kaj7135]

Shame on you.

[@pingpong1727]

Hopefully you don't repeat this lapse in judgement

[@TheWarmachine375]

It is ironic that PETA bashes Amazon over the death of a horse during Rings of Power production and they deserve it.

[@digiblak997]

PETA will now try to put the horses down to save them from amazon

[@lonewolf9578]

The one and only time I’d support PETA

[@BrassChuckles]

Amazon are trying to flog(sell) a dead show, so it's rather apt that they have a dead horse to flog.

[@wither5673]

@@Sciuridae at this point this is not even a joke lol.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

Laughs in charge of the light brigade kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3zGmap3jLKjeqM

[@geekmastermind]

I'm a little surprised that so many people are hyped about the announced Warner Bros. remakes. What in the past few years especially gives them the idea that Hollywood is going to do anything but make an absolute hash of it?

[@sexistspaghettios]

Yeah. Idk how people can even be "cautiously optimistic" anymore.

[@davids8127]

Warner bros has been horrible the last 10 years like most of the big studios.

[@ElhajMahmoud]

Watch Aragorn turned into a bisexual black man who’s in a romantic relationship with Legolas

[@grapeape888]

Pakistani trans activist Aragorn would be better.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@grapeape888 He/she/they would be bludgeoned to death there.

[@calebhamm8531]

I’ve had people recommend this show to me so many times because the original Jackson films are my favorite movies of all time. I still haven’t been able to bring myself to watch the first episode though.

[@chasehedges6775]

Just stick with the Jackson films

[@6581punk]

Not a single second of it is Tolkien. I wouldn't even call it fan fiction because that would imply the writers are fans when they're not.

[@nilesraeadams]

Same. 15 minutes was all I could stomach.

[@the_absurd_hero]

Watch the Jackson films. And if your morbid curiosity about RoP is ever piqued, watch Disparu’s reviews; they’re really funny

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

Don't do it

[@wehrwolf8538]

I'm surprised that 1/3 of the viewers actually finished it. The wife and I didn't even last an episode. Don't feel like we missed out on anything.

[@Treizez34]

i regret that I'm part of that statistic, but only because the wife insisted on pushing through to the end where I checked out by episode 3

[@johnhughes2124]

I confess to lasting the whole thing....... but like Disparu said it was on the side monitor

[@Elaborance]

I think 1/3rd sounds pretty good to be honest. I don't finish a third of the shows I start, not even close.

[@nalublackwater9729]

Those where probably some shills and the valiant content creators who sacrificed part of their sanity to deliver their video reviews.

[@Chris-gw2xg]

You didn‘t miss anything

[@frogletx]

Jack Black as Tom Bombadil, Lizzo as Galadriel .. ....what could go wrong?

[@chasehedges6775]

About as bad as seeing them on Mandalorian S3

[@chasehedges6775]

Jack Black deserves better. At least he’s Bowser on Super Mario Bros

[@grapeape888]

Why does everyone hate Jack Black all of a sudden in these comments? guys hilarious and seems like a bro. Lets not sweep Jack up with Lizzo, he isn't in charge of Disney casting.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@grapeape888 Jack Black is legit legend

[@xanderabbey8529]

@@grapeape888 Nothing wrong with him as a person or actor, but it's a wildly absurd casting choice to have him in Star Wars. Maybe they might make it work, but I have no faith in Disney Star Wars.

[@mrfafaa96]

My guess is that this series will go the same way as the Fantastic beast series. Fantastic beast was planned to be 5 movies, but each movie was a disaster after another until the series eventually died uncompleted. Rings of Power has planned to have 5 seasons. I'm guessing that we'll get a season 2, but it will die either after season 2 or 3 and it will be left uncompleted.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

It’s not like they had any 5 seasons long arch. They are probably writing along as they go like Disney’s Star Wars

[@TheDisgruntledImperial]

I don't know, they have plenty of funding and virtues to signal. See: Star Trek Discovery and Star Trek Picard.

[@eagleofceaser6140]

Season 2 will be the same length as season 1. When it bombs season 3 could be cut into thirds released a few months apart labeled as seasons 3-5. That way they can still have five seasons and cut their losses after season 3.

[@chasehedges6775]

First Fantastic Beast movie was Good at least

[@TitanKaiju75]

Same. I'd be floored if that wasn't the case honestly.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

I'm amazed 1/3 people finished it, I never watched an episode

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here. Didn’t seem Worth the time or effort

[@peterpohan3850]

Me neither

[@chasehedges6775]

@@peterpohan3850 Good Choice

[@themightypen1530]

You missed stronk elf whamen taking a pyroclasm to the face and shrugging it off. It was awful.

[@chongli3007]

Never even clicked on it once

[@desmondjefferson2127]

😂😂😂 CALLED IT!!!!! They wrote, read, and decided to shoot EPISODE 2...... Where the main character decided to jump into the ocean and SWIM across it. I stopped at that episode and my review was,"Who TF wrote the 'SWIM ACROSS THE OCEAN' episode and why do they have a JOB!!!!!?????"

[@williamjpellas0314]

They have a job because they obediently signal their phony leftie 'virtue' which is what opens the magic valve that leads to the money bin. It's as simple as that. Well, until and unless reality, especially financial reality, reasserts itself. But until then, it's all about political hacks maneuvering and trying to position themselves to get money. It has nothing to do with objective skill whatsoever. Absolutely zero.

[@theresearcher253]

If they're going to go in this direction, they may as well go all the way: Hire Dylan Mulvaney to play Galadriel in season 2 - 'Orcs? love' em!'

[@salinium]

It'd be about as believable as his larp as a woman haha

[@whos-the-stiff]

Imagine the slowed down horseriding images with that tool riding a horse !

[@grapeape888]

Im jealous and angry I didn't think of the scam before Dylan, especially since im a minority, woulda worked even better. Bud Lite paid him 100k for that bubble bath ad...I'd drink Bud Lite out of Lizzo's crack for that kinda money.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

I might actually consider watching the show then to see how bad they can make it.

[@awildman69]

If Hollywood remade "The Elizabeth: The Golden Age" Liz would be on the ships telling Raleigh what to do 🤡

[@Caredroia]

WHY would I trust them with Fantasy, when they can't even understand reality!

[@WinstonSmithGPT]

If you fall asleep Amazon keeps playing.

[@mattdesroches3219]

i watched the first episode... when she came in twirling her sword to kill the troll i gave up

[@desmondjefferson2127]

Oh, in episode 2 she did something even worse.

[@kaj7135]

A woman ruining an action scene? That’s unusual.

[@floridaman6982]

One thing I’m realizing… they are writing these things in a group setting just basically setting up a checklist of tasks and trying to string them together. Most of the greatest stories that got to this level on Merritt were the vision of one single writer and once the book was done they went through editing with others.

[@Jadty]

They get an email from Blackrock telling them exactly what to do.

[@robertsmith6529]

It is very difficult to take on a Tolkeins work and turn it into a TV show or a film. Due to creativity and filming limitations.

[@DizzyMamba]

How in the hell is Amazon justifying a second season?

[@chasehedges6775]

“WEVE GOT TO HAVE…. Money! - Amazon, probably

[@6581punk]

They see it as something to attract customers? haha.

[@blatherskite3009]

The sunk-cost fallacy, basically.

[@y_s4021]

Probably trying to fool investors that everything is just...fine....see? We'll have a season 2

[@Rabbithole8]

Amazon already paid for a second season and more, and as blatherskite3009 stated, the sunk cost fallacy.

[@SadfaicMusic]

I wish there was a way to quantize what percentage of people watched mainly to join in the collective Schadenfreude experience.

[@scatterthewinds3126]

it still blows my mind...this source material should've produced a blockbuster generation defining show.

[@barryf7253]

What was Amazon thinking? "Let's take a classic work of literature and turn it into a stupid TV show on the same intellectual par with Gilligan's Island, only not funny".

[@kaj7135]

More like “We’re not gonna make a profit off of this, but at least we’re brainwashing the younger generations with our anti-male and pussy worship propaganda.”

[@WhitefoxSpace]

Dude Disparu's articulation of the audience's feelings are just absolutely dead on, bullseye every time.

[@greebo7857]

I'm amazed that 1/3 of viewers started it.

[@danabnormal5988]

As a lifelong Tolkien fan, I felt it was utter garbage as soon as I heard of it.

[@lukeball4937]

Many Nascar fans aren't there for the races, they are there for the crashes. I think it's the same thing. :)

[@MioRaem]

I did watch all episodes like Drinker, but I only did so because I was caught in a perpetual loop of weekly disbelief, anger, sadness and, like Drinker, morbid curiosity. THIS SHOW IS ABSOLUTE DOGSHYTE

[@jeanclaudealexo2167]

“Prepare to have your expectations subverted” 😂 Oh Drinker! 😂

[@xepharnazos]

I had a hearty laugh at the cutaway to the Numenoreans doing their best to kill their horses before even arriving at the Southlands village. When I was a kid I read something, a commentary on Charge of the Light Brigade or something idr, that said historically cavalry charges like the aforenamed were actually more like fast trots until they got really, really close to the enemy--only then would they start running. Otherwise the horses would get tired too early. Managing horse-endurance is a plot point in "The Name of the Wind" and "The Searchers" too.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

A hefty part of The Two Towers after they defeat Saruman is spent on the stealthy march of the Rohirrim towards Gondor taking care of the horses so they could arrive rested to Minas Tirith.

[@zacharyyoung8432]

That was probably the most profound statement about remakes: we’re making Tolkien’s world not ours.

[@truefitness2622]

Damn, I can only imagine those who managed to watch it to the end are also victims of domestic violence

[@sillypuppy5940]

What got me was that their version of Galadriel was 1000 years old, yet still considered immature.

[@alexfriedman918]

Sometimes I fall asleep watching an episode of something, and when I wake up, the season’s over and the screen says something like “Are you still watching?”. Are we sure that’s not what happened to those unfortunate 37%?

[@genemcgeehan9435]

There is no way this show makes it all 5 years

[@saar144]

Rings of Power hate is still strong, even though it ended 6 months ago

[@kaj7135]

Still not hated enough.

[@asdf-bm4df]

I love that you keep at it still. This series could've been fantastic. Hopefully a new attempt is made in a decade or so, with your points in mind.

[@StefanoBorini]

Don't worry, they will blame toxic fans and renew it for another season. Because that's what they will do.

[@doug1066]

Tolkien was my first experience of "high fantasy". It is near and dear to my heart. I am sure I am not alone.

[@joelt2002]

My wife and I started it as she is a huge nerd of Middle Earth. We quit after the second episode, it was so bad.

[@MJT409]

The only people who finished watching the whole thing were Amazon employees who were paid bonuses for their time.

[@RS-ls7mm]

I am imagining the scene in Clockwork Orange where he is forced to watch.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@RS-ls7mmyou might be joking, but life imitates art more often than not ..

[@Robwithakick]

The “internal“ situation at Amazon reminds me of the big car companies problems before they collapsed. No one had the guts to say to management, “we have a lot of internal problems. Therefore, our product won’t sell.“ A cult of personality will stoke the ego temporarily, but will eventually fail.

[@Elerad]

Love the lineup here. Always enjoy the content of Tyrone, Disparu, and Echo.

[@chasehedges6775]

I can only imagine what the cast of the Jackson films feel about this abysmal show

[@harbl99]

Wonder if the Hobbit boys regret wearing those elf ear tshirts yet.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@harbl99 I wonder what Elijah Wood and Sean Asten felt when they heard this was greenlit.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Viggo Mortensen has a ton of respect for Tolkien and his world. He refused to appear in the Hobbit movies because it wasn't lore accurate. Bernard Hill also shat on Rings of Power recently.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@GeraltofRivia22 Bernard Hill is a legend

[@chasehedges6775]

@@GeraltofRivia22 Bernard Hill was even in the Scorpion King(2002) and that was a decent movie

[@Killerduck0213]

So happy I waited for the show to be out in the wild and reviewed before I watched it. Saved me a lot of time.

[@Prudencia67]

The only way is making season 1 a Nightmare from Galadriel. She wakes up in the real Tolkin universe and amazon get to start over

[@danabnormal5988]

Disparu is exactly right. I read Tolkien to *escape* from RL drama. I'm tired of "progressives" projecting their own rage and frustration onto entertainment I value.

[@aldunlop4622]

I only lasted about ten minutes. As soon as Mary Suladriel did the acrobatic flip and kill the giant, I was out.

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

"It's dog water!" - Eric July/Young Rippa 59 -

[@ct-cdn7967]

I didn’t know who Jennifer Salke was so I looked her up on google. Then was like, wait a minute, I’ve seen her before. Did she play Galadriel on that show? Hmm. I may be stretching this, but it seems like “Guyladriel” is an avatar for Salke. Sort of like how Kathleen Kennedy has inserted herself into her movies.

[@ssvensic]

I just finished watching The Fellowship of the Ring a few minutes ago and I see this video, perfect. Jesus, I can watch the Peter Jacksons trilogy on repeat for the rest of my life. I watched one episode of Rings of power and called it a day.

[@PeJota615]

I don't think we'll ever have an adaption with the same level of care as the PJ trilogy ever again. At least not any time soon. That trilogy was a totally unique moment in cinema history. A nobody, genre director from New Zealand, who was a huge lifelong fan of LOTR, managed to take control of an adaptation and put an entire country's film industry behind it. It was a passion project on a scale we've never seen before. It was also an underdog story the whole way through until the release of Fellowship proved everything PJ and his team did was the right thing. You gotta remember before Fellowship LOTR as a franchise was relegated to only fantasy nerds, literary nerds, and academics. Sure it had a few animated adaptations and radio plays, but at most the general public was mainly familiar with The Hobbit at most. And only because it may have been a book they read for school as children. At this point any studio attempting a LOTR adaptation is trying to ape PJ's LOTR. It's no longer a labor of love from one director and his passionate team of Hollywood outsider nobodies.

[@KrazzeeKane]

The LotR trilogy was the last true Epic of our time. It was on a literal "epic" scale, the bigatures and extras and crew and just sheer love and effort put in. All the practical and CGI blended perfectly, it's the last epic film series ever made imo. Avatar and such try, but it's not even close to the level of effort and skill that the LotR trilogy was.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

You're wrong. Lord of the Rings was a cultural phenomenon long before the movies.

[@PeJota615]

@@GeraltofRivia22I'm not wrong. I'm talking about LOTR in at that point in time right before the movies. LOTR was a literary classic, yes, but it wasn't a hot property in the eyes of the general public. It wasn't a cultural phenomenon like let's say the Harry Potter books were. Nobody was lining up for LOTR books in 1999/2000.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@GeraltofRivia22yet, Harry Potter gets defaced and nobody bats an eye. Tolkien's work gets defaced and it's a call to arms. I'm surprised nobody has challenged some Amazon showrunner to a duel...

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Also, Jackson started the woke trend when he killed Glorfindel and turned Arwen from Evenstar to wArRiOr PrInCeSs. I could never enjoy them because they deviated from the books in stupid Hollywood ways. If he was such a hardcore he wouldn't have deviated at all. Stop-worshipping-his-ass.

[@fredtott4684]

I watched the whole thing (huge Tolkien fan here) AFTER I watched the 2 reviews from The Critical Drinker going "It cannot be THAT bad. Can it?" And boy, was I for a ride or what? What's even sadder is despite "Reflect on the world we live in today" is destroying all the cool IPs, no one seem to do anything about it in fear of backlash and it'll bring the end of entertainment. Guess we should go outside and entertain ourselves like we did in the 80s.

[@mrsickukxx1332]

Dunno what everybody’s complaining about. One of the better comedies of recent times.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Fleabag, but in Middle Earth.

[@Running-withscissors]

Great to see Tyrone Magnus back! I have to admit, with recent great gets like Russel Crowe I didn't know if Drinker would still pursue promoting small channel content creators. Cheers and good on you mate! Echo Chamberlain is also great to see. I was just craking up on his eloquent description of the state of affairs at mouseland ;) Mauler, of course. Great panel. Sorry I missed it.

[@bastadimasta]

I finished it, but skipped 95 percent to make it more bearable. In the end, I had no idea who's who.

[@katgirl3000]

First time I've seen the Drinker's Chasers panel and it's Hilarious (and good!). The thread of comments are fantastic too! Hey, Bud Light should sponsor the show haha.

[@theglanconer6463]

Rings of Woke was 95% identity politics and 5% story House of the Dragon was 5% identity politics and 95% story

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

Eh I think HoTD was like 20% woke but that's just my take

[@markomuric1221]

Definitivno of woke is when identity politics take priority over story, hotd keept the story priority

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

@@markomuric1221 eh, did you read the book? I'd question that Criston Cole became an incel stereotype where in the books he wasn't, Rhaenyra and her entitlement was downplayed, etc. But it's definitely not the most woke thing made

[@xuedalong]

1/3 of those people can turn to others and say "YOU HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT I HAVE SEEN"

[@Kscoyote80]

Fun fact: 100% of the 33% were reviewers.

[@phillower8806]

I literally watched 1 minute past the paper boat scene and I just couldn’t 😅

[@CMCAdvanced]

I had a dream to get in the entertainment business and entertain once. Once. The fact that people can still keep their 6 figure salary jobs after making a show like this is just another nail shot from a seemingly endless, rapid fire Gatling nail gun in an incredibly battered and nail riddled coffin

[@marbellaotaiza801]

F

[@digbystrawbridge6161]

Thanks

[@y_s4021]

I guess cancelling after just 1 season is too much of a bad PR. They'd rather renew it for a 2nd or 3rd season and cancel it when no one cares about it anymore. Or so the story goes in my head. They might as well be thinking "what? We put our souls into it! Was the audience not yet prepared for such greatness? Let's give them a season 2"

[@ChaosChanneler]

I have a boss named Jennifer and she acts EXACTLY like how Jennifer Sulky acts when it comes to managing. She wont hear any negative aspects of the job and will circle the conversation away and around from criticism of how she handles things as MUCH AS POSSIBLE so she doesn't have to deal with changing things for the better. Some people are in power for that very reason because they know how to manipulate people into think tanks that are only insular for the bosses benefit and fragile psyche.

[@oldjoe2776]

A lot of those 1/3 are normies who don't know Tolkien's lore and, frankly, don't recognize the wrong nor the simply bad. Neither of my brothers are very knowledgeable about the lore beyond the Peter Jackson trilogy. They both asked me if I saw RoP. When I said, "No", they said it was really good and I should watch it. It's because they don't know any better and thus found it entertaining, if only for the fantasy veneer. I didn't even try to respond to what they said. I've heard speculation that if the story presented in Rings of Power was not attached to Lord of the Rings, at least in name, then it could have been a passable, generic, ultimately forgettable fantasy series. Not great by any means, but at least not offensive to Tolkien's legacy. Rings of Power wouldn't have had nearly the backlash it received, though I think the woke-ness of it all would have drawn enough ire on it's own.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

It's intellectual imposture. Terry Gilliam had a movie based on 1984, but was more of a freelwheeling than an adaptation, so he called it "Brazil". Likewise Kurt Wimmer's Equilibrium is loosely based on Brave New World. That's intellectual honesty. On the other hand, you got RoP, and better products like Guy Ritchie's King Arthur, which would've been a decent popcorn fantasy flick have it been named anything but the Arthurian saga to which it bears no resemblance.

[@MrHakisak]

2:54 Disparu speaks the truth, I've been rewatching all the reviewers and critics every week since RoP aired. Critical Drinker, Disparu and AngryJoe. its just so fascinating and entertaining to watch their reactions and breakdowns on how bad the show ended up being. I can't wait for the next season so I have something new to rewatch :)

[@donakahorse]

I wonder how many episodes you had to start before it counted, I know I didn't even make it through the first episode. I feel like there are a lot more people like me who never made it far enough in to be part of the numbers.

[@Jadty]

1 billion dollars worth of ESG money and THE MESSAGE. Serves them right.

[@BilbaoBaggins9]

Amazon acquired The Expanse and gave it a satisfactory conclusion. I'd love to see a compare-contrast. How did Amazon not screw up The Expanse, but did screw up Tolkien? Was it an Andor situation where they didn't care enough about it to meddle, or something else? I'd be interested to learn more.

[@randommcranderson5155]

I think amazon bought expanse to bring viewers of the existing show to their platform and since it had existing seasons didn't want to meddle - the show included production staff, writers, etc already. But Wheel of Time and Tolkein they bought rights for and started fresh, so they chose the direction, and it sucked.

[@L1VE3V1L]

The expanse is owned and made by Alcon entertainment. Amazon only funded it. Their film studio didn’t touch it. Thank fuck.

[@randommcranderson5155]

@@L1VE3V1L I think by funding it they could have influenced it if they wished. They just didn't want to meddle since it was "working", whereas on amazon properties they have to start from scratch and the direction from the beginning is in a trajectory fans of the properties hate.

[@AdityaSingh-lb6wg]

Drinker dont do so many shows. Its a delight to hear you because your uniqueness. Control the supply keep the demand up. I hope you get it.

[@matthewmckinnon7654]

And this proves big budgets alone don't make for good entertaiment.

[@kaj7135]

It does for gaming… like 40% of the time. lol

[@redwolf92]

Tyrone was so shocked that he can't even speak.

[@jackielogan9104]

i admittedly sat through the entire first season of Batwoman out of curiosity. i gladly saved myself from watching the later seasons.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

This comment is perfection. It will be, when it's written by a whamen.

[@jimivey6462]

Initially, I watched in hopes that it would get better. I continued watching because I enjoyed the hilarious KZbin critique channels so much.

[@conwayfitzgerald]

Trying to write the Lost Tolkien Pages is like trying to write the Lost Mozart Sonatas. It is a fools errand. That's why it cant work, even if you throw 2 billion dollars at it. Just remember 'Boats float because they look up' and 'The Sea is always right.' Tolkien would never even think up lines so stupid, let alone write it down.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

If that's an actual quote from the show, I'm really glad I never got anywhere near it.

[@dub2459]

The only people that finished were the ones doing reviews, thank you for your sacrifice.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Lord of the Rings fanfiction is more enjoyable than Rings of Power.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same with Star Wars and the EU

[@6581punk]

Fans stick to the lore. This show is written by people who despise Tolkien and think he was racist.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@6581punk Star Wars fans and LOTR fans are not so different, it seems

[@kaj7135]

@@6581punk They despise Tolkien and all white men, in general. Being white is only ok if you have a tw@t.

[@0saintclark0]

What this says to me is that a lot of the people defending the show and saying that it's critics are racists/misogynistic didn't even watch it all the way through themselves because they didn't actually care and just wanted to use it as ammo for....THE MESSAGE.

[@chriswilson3126]

This sounds about right. I never bothered with it but my mates watched thr first 2 and never went back to it.

[@chasehedges6775]

I knew it would suck from the just the trailers

[@desmondjefferson2127]

In the 2nd episode they wrote a scene where an important character DECIDED to swim across an ocean.

[@kaj7135]

A moment of silence for your mates’ fallen brain cells.

[@CASFRM]

The reason so many people watched all the episodes is because there are so many reviewers that had to do it for work.

[@charc0al_tv]

1/3 of viewers fell asleep with autoplay on

[@gbenselum]

I felt asleep at 10 minutes and my tv binge watched 3 eps by itself.

[@chasehedges6775]

While Tv and cinema May being going downhill, movies like Top Gun Maverick and The Animated Super Mario Bros. Movie give me hope.

[@SnakePliskiin]

Stopped after the second episode, rewatched the lord of the rings extended edition instead.

[@MauricePKerry]

Internally? Like in your mind? To yourself?

[@colburn888]

"But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know.” - Celeborn

[@Hecarim420]

In third episode I started laughing (Hartfoots storyline) and episode 8 was the greatest pinnacle of CREATION xD

[@toothgrinder2760]

This makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

[@Nava9380]

I wonder how many of the 1/3 viewers were hate watching it? I surely did.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Or just KZbinrs hate watching it to make the review

[@wretchardkimball9049]

There is a parasite in me!