The Rings of Power Onslaught Continues | Defending Tolkien AGAIN

[@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388]

I am not English and I didn't know of Tolkien until this whole thing. Yet I now care. Seeing the pure passion of all the awesome people. Thanks for caring for things that are important. And not accepting the substandard.

[@MyAramil]

Please read or listen to the books. It has been translated into over 30 different languages so if English is not your mother tongue then it should be available for you.

[@totallynuts7595]

If the books don't sound appealing to you, watch the films, they are some of the best movies ever.

[@theeightbithero]

This is a beautiful comment, Amir.

[@mikestanmore2614]

Thanks for joining us.

[@matthewarant377]

This gives me hope.

[@TheSuperQuail]

"Escapism is all some people have to look forward to in this world. It is not unreasonable to expect us to be protective of us." Brilliantly put.

[@naten408]

So Tolkien loved mythology, but when he looked into the mythology of his people he found it utterly lacking. What did he do? Did he say "I really like Greek mythology but I don't quite see myself in it. Let's make it 'better' and self insert"? No he created a masterpiece, something new and beautiful. If people want to see themselves in stories, or want stories that put forth certain allegories then let them follow his example and make something new.

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

Unfortunately for them "the inclusive and diverse", they lack creativity.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

It's not about making something new, it's about tearing down and subverting what came before.

[@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473]

As a black person it really makes me disappointed when they talk about diversity and representation but never even acknowledge that African mythology exists

[@narsakucanada154]

Last year with no place left to turn I prayed to God in repentance then begged for help with all my heart, "I was until then a lifelong Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed because I've never read the bible", and the love I felt from Jesus was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of joy every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life forever. I've had other miracles since, a few being a light turning on in answer to deeply needful prayer 6 times, seeing a orb of light hours before a major surgery, seeing an Angel in a dream the night my mother prayed for me to see one, "Without telling me", and so much more. Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you love and forgive them and I believe we should do our best to follow, "I've failed many times", the 10 commandments. Always have hope. I believe that love is the answer.

[@palehorse4660]

they destroy your heroes, unable to create their own

[@jaceyking5015]

The thing is with Amazon, a dose of humility could really go a long way. You know, Tom Cruise when on the marketing trail for Top Gun: Maverick repeatedly said that he made the movie solely to entertain the fans, and that he was grateful to the fans. When the initial Sonic the Hedgehog movie was poorly received, the director acknowledged it and tried to fix it, and the movie went over much better with the audiences than it would have otherwise. If the actors and showrunners had been a bit more humble in their marketing, people might be more receptive. But then, if they had any humility in them, they probably would have made a better show in the first place.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Agreed

[@PistonDriven]

Pitch this to the Jeff. He'll claim that he's several billion times more humble than anyone...

[@davidschaftenaar6530]

The activists attempting to desecrate Tolkien's work through Amazon, do not believe it's possible to redeem yourself by righting your wrongs. The entire concept of succeeding by overcoming failures and setbacks is _fundamentally alien_ to their view of the world. To them admitting fault is admitting defeat - because by their logic, giving in would mean that the fans have more power to dictate the truth than they do. Humility isn't even in their dictionary.

[@LivingAnachronism]

@@davidschaftenaar6530 Sad but true. It's also why many people are likely to say the show is good even if it is objectively bad, why the show runners have doubled down, because at this point they've committed and and they HAVE to be right to save face. Your point almost made it into my video

[@aragmarverilian8238]

I gratefully accept the aid of my readers, because they are the people whom I write stories for. Their upliftment is my goal, making their day brighter, cooking delectable traits for their imaginations to feast upon. English is neither my first, nor my second, but my third language. Many other indie authors are not native speakers, but we strive to get better with every page. This is why I cannot stand these fakes, these hate-filled activists, whose only goal is to spread depression and doom.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

If us fans don't stand up for Tolkien and his work, who will? Clearly his family doesn't care after Christopher died.

[@underscore_nick1344]

Ive seen other people write something to the effect of the family only cares for the money now. Its so sad for tolkien and his son to be betrayed by their own family

[@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473]

The same thing seems to be happening with the 1984, his family have allowed a remake but it’s a romance, honestly how does one protect their creations without them being there.

[@mikestanmore2614]

Well, we're doing it for free, for future generations. I doubt JRR's family (with the exception of Christopher) even liked his works. To them, being born a Tolkien was a lottery win.

[@tomcustis9272]

Simon Tolkien said that fans need to stop caring about the lore so much and not take the books so seriously. To him Tolkien is just a way to make money. He doesn’t care if they destroy his family’s legacy.

[@mikestanmore2614]

@@tomcustis9272 Yes, Simon is a scumbag who treats his grandfather's work as a cash cow. It's disgusting.

[@Philxia66]

I first tried reading the Lord of the Rings when I was 12 years old. It was too difficult for me and I didn't get past the first chapter. I tried again when I was 15 years old. Peter Jackson's "The Two Towers" movie had just come out. I was able to finish the books just a few months before "The Return of the King" came out in theaters. I noticed several differences between the books and the movies, but I was understanding of why they left certain things out, and it was still glorious to watch. The amount of love, care, and respect that went into those 3 films made it a pillar of modern cinema. This is not the same.

[@creatrixZBD]

“The Hobbit” is prolly the better book for when you’re twelve.

[@Philxia66]

@@creatrixZBD Looking back on it, I agree with you. Chronologically it makes sense too.

[@Elora445]

I made the same journey as you. I did make it through all the books at 11 but didn't like them. Decided to reread the books when people started talking about the films (before they got released) and loved them even though the translations aren't very good (even Tolkien hated the Swedish translation - the first one was/is awful). The movies are great adaptions and the changes they made are fully understandable. The films showed the respect everyone involved in their creation had for the canon, and therefor they were so lovely and great to watch.

[@josefvollekanne]

I wouldn't agree to that for the Cinematic Cuts. But the extended Versions later made the Peter Jackson Trilogy my favourite Movies to this Day.

[@AnotherDuck]

@@Elora445 I read the English version when I was 14 or something. Didn't much care for the Swedish translation. The films are good because Jackson and the rest of them wanted them to be good more than they wanted to earn a lot of money from them. Even the investors, who did primarily want money from it, knew that if they made what the fans truly wanted they would earn a lot of money. The changes Jackson made were to improve the story as much as he could to fit the new medium, and not to push some political agenda or win social points.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

The lyrics in the trailer "speak your truth, free your mind, don't say no" yep sounds about right.

[@ordnaelshideout]

"It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Rights were granted to Jackson, great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of Men who, above all else, desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop. And into this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all."

[@lucaadrianmartinez9190]

That was brilliant quoting. Thank you for your effort.

[@Vinceprinve]

"It's funny because it's true!" Thank you for the giggles.

[@Coinwalker1]

My thinking about the music used in the last trailer runs along two lines: 1: I wouldn't mind listening to that piece if it popped up on one of my KZbin Premium music playlists. It sounds like some kind of celtic trance mashup: the artists would be called something like Miyoki & Malachor Nu-Melt Soundsystem. I could groove to it for a while. 2: If God dumped a billion dollars on my head and said "sweetie, adapt me some Tolkien, would ya? It's been a minute up here"... ...I might make different musical choices.

[@Iiva69]

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” G. Orwell.

[@echonomix_]

Unfolding before our own eyes, plain as day.

[@sirzorg5728]

Now that you see plainly before you the evil we face, what shall you do about it? Remember the past and the lore of the wise, and teach it to your children and any who will hear you. Our enemies are slaves to their own lies, but no lie, no matter how well defended, can withstand the light of truth remembered. Our victory is guaranteed in the endless end, take heart in that, and stand with light and truth, that you may be remembered in glory in those stories of wisdom yet unwritten.

[@erikaeriksson9840]

Cancel culture explained. How to re-write history and pretend that everything has always been like today and values hasn't changed over time. It's frightening how much of the book 1984 that has come to pass in real life.

[@sirzorg5728]

@@erikaeriksson9840 it's terrifying that Amazon owns most of the ways that people acquire books. People buy physical books on Amazon. Kindle is Amazon Audible is Amazon This kind of power concentration is alarming.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

"Bezos spent his energy in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others; and all their works he destroyed if he could." - J.R.R. Tolkien.

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

He's the first shadow...but not the last.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

@@JohnMiller-zr8pl Bezos is far from the first. The ideology underpinning this current destruction of beloved franchises goes back centuries.

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

@@GeraltofRivia22 I think if I'm not mistaken, that's a quote describing Morgoth.

[@RoninDave]

The thing to remember is Bezos wanted his own Game of Thrones. That is his major motivation not adapting the works of Tolkien and that tells you all you need to know.

[@davidsimon5088]

Also sounds like his attitude towards SpaceX.

[@TheAmazingBoogeyMan]

I realized after watching the video (thank you for saying what needed to be said!) that what Amazon is doing is akin to Morgoth creating orcs. He couldn't create something new, so he took an established creation in elves and through torment and dark experimentation created his own twisted version. I'm sure Morgoth considered them better in every way. I'm sure he considered them a product of their time and in line with his own values. But in the end, they were an abomination.

[@LivingAnachronism]

"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not new real things of its own" J.R.R. Tolkien

[@acerimmer8357]

It's a monumental task of living up to the expectations of an audience that has seen LOTR. It won how many Oscars? Eleven, that's right Eleven only two other films have ever done that to date: Ben Hur (1959) and Titanic (1997). Their backs up against the wall before they started, then factor in the insane virtue signaling, ignoring source material, attacking the fandom and anyone else that disagrees, Actors making false and misleading claims, fake super fans, etc........ It is nothing less than pure hubris on the part of those involved in the creation of this monstrosity.

[@kaizokujimbei143]

The Lord of the Rings (the book) is the second best selling book in the world next to the Bible.

[@FlynLatif]

They knew long before they started that it would never live up to a single persons expectations. That's why they went all-in on leveraging it being hated. All of the hitpiece articles against fans for not liking the trailers, would have been written at the same time as the script. Just the same as every other cultural assassination we've seen.

[@MyAramil]

We are not asking it to be perfect, We are asking them to stick to the source material as close as possible. We do not need Peter Jackson 2.0. We want a good show that is set in tolkiens world.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Something people need to understand is that this was never about making a good show or making money or anything like that. This is about subverting and deconstructing the defining work of English literature since Shakespeare. It's another target in the decades long destruction of western culture by Marxists. Yuri Bezmenov warned us about this 40 years ago.

[@FlynLatif]

@@GeraltofRivia22 Exactly. This is just what the bookburnings of the past look like in the modern age of information. They wouldn't stop until everything that has value is destroyed, for the sake of having value. In the words of that woman who single handedly destroyed the gaming industry "everything (in society) is sexist and racist and you have take on it all". The foundation of their entire ideology is destruction of the fruits of the old being the only way to make way for the new.

[@gabrielparreira9851]

I was being very objective and rational about this whole thing until... well untill those last 1m40s that just struck my soul and brought me to tears like only Tolkien does. After all, there's some good in this world. And it's worth fighting for... Thank you, Kramer.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you, Gabriel

[@reek4062]

You incels will certainly make Bezos scared

[@LivingAnachronism]

@@reek4062 Your name is ironically apt

[@lucaadrianmartinez9190]

@@LivingAnachronism I hate to say it because I am a lefty, but man some of them are complete unhappy and unfuckable. He is probably just another incel coping with feminism joining left. He sure goes now to his dark mistress and begs her to rub his belly. Don't lose your time with that insignicant uruk-hai.

[@velraven8944]

@@LivingAnachronism Roasted with the fires of Mount Doom

[@sayntgeorge]

I love your energy, your debate is true to the horrid dumpster fire they have shown thus far. YOU HAVE MY AXE!!

[@mrsMOmiles]

Yea hes awesome! Good points good quotes good video!

[@IstvanThree]

And my sword!

[@e-man8097]

And my bow!

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

And my spear... Well you get what I mean.

[@islandonlinenews]

And my keyboard!

[@wd2989]

Love this video - a direct message to Tolkien book fans. Thumbs up. Let’s keep educating the casual movie fans and others that haven’t read the Legendarium in entirety and show interest in Tolkien’s tales. There’s a lot to do. I personally go on the KZbin channels (of show supporters) with large and small subscriber numbers and put the facts about Tolkien’s legendarium in the comments. I write to those audiences. I do it politely and directly. Countering the depictions of this ROP show seen in trailers, articles and interviews. And I encourage “read the Tolkien source material”… not McKay&Payne’s stuff.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you for doing this. I imagine it isn;t always easy. I will be the first to admit, there are many that are indeed much more familiar with the book lore, than myself. I am glad that you have taken this task upon yourself.

[@belaytriks]

A direct message for mases. We can said the same not only about Tolkien but many other things.

[@cosmicrust9715]

Never Read the Books BUT Thank You For Educating me on Tolkien lore. I only saw the Jackson films and fell in love so I Definitely will not be watching Rings of Trash.

[@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388]

When I saw the Egyptian clothing and other stuff in the trailers I didn't think much of it other than odd. Now that I have more context that this is a purely English mythology I see how out of touch these guys are.

[@willowtree7326]

@@moon-moth1 ....Egypt was literally one of the inspirations for Numenor, Tolkien literally described the crown of Gondor (Numenor's successor) as being similar to the crown of Egypt (but with his own fantastical element of wings added) Numenor was inspired also by the myth of Atlantis notably not celtic not norse not north western European. Tolkien himself literally disagrees with you about no Egyptian inspired clothing In his world. But Wow! you care about him and his work so much!

[@thecripplingestofdepressio2686]

@@willowtree7326 So, I'm not exactly a Tolkien fan, let alone an expert as my only experience is the Peter Jackson trilogy and reading the hobbit as a kid. But did he explicitly state that the clothing of Numenor was reminiscent of Egypt? Or was it more that the society was based on Egypt and Atlantis, Aka great mysterious civilizations lost to time?

[@gabriele3665]

@@willowtree7326 it's a mixture of Atlantis Egypt and the roman empire, but still all the Tolkien artists represented the armies with late antiquity/early middle ages equipment because regardless of the real life inspiration they still knew that the core objective was building a lengendarium for the Anglo-Saxons. At best they add some plate armor to give the idea that Numenor was more advanced and rich than Gondor and Arnor

[@littleflower9588]

Same here when I saw Asian influence especially in the sailboats. Le sigh.

[@willowtree7326]

@@thecripplingestofdepressio2686 Well, both really. Numenor and its fall are inspired by the myth of Atlantis. And Jrrt described Numenoreans as having a similar cultural attitude to ancient Egyptians (except in religion) And jrrt described the crown of gondor as looking like a crown of Egypt but with wings. This crown in universe was inspired by a Numenorean helmet worn by royalty which had no wings, and so just looked like an egyptian crown. So a little bit of Egyptian visual influence wouldn't be out of place in an adaptation. Tolkien himself had no qualms about having numenoreans wear an article of clothing that looked like something ancient egyptians wore, so I don't see why anyone else should.

[@alisonanthony1228]

I'm sitting here crying and applauding. You've articulated everything that I've been feeling and inspired me to pick up my sword again and keep fighting. I've been feeling pretty hopeless about what Amazon has done to what are, basically, sacred texts but, after hearing your exhortation to arms, I'm ready to charge back into the fray and push forward with this crusade to save the Legendarium that I love. Thank you!

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you Alison!

[@erfarion]

Thank you! You won my respect and devotion with your first Tolkien defense video. Was blown away by your passion, knowledge, ability to convey your thoughts and the similarity of your emotions with my own. Since then I have watched a lot of your videos and have become a devoted viewer. This second video captivated and inspired me once again. I share your thoughts and message completely. I am not the strongest of warriors, but I am ready to stand next to you protecting Tolkien to the last breath. There are three generations of Tolkien fans in my family - from 15 to 59 years old. No one in my family will watch the Rings of Power even out of curiosity.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you for your kind words, and support, Victoria. I am glad to have had some small impact.

[@kevlarandchrome]

Ironically, I hate fantasy; reading LoTR and watching The Hobbit animated movie when I was a kid was what taught me that I find it insufferable and boring. However, I love Tolkien as a scholar and an artist and one of the single greatest creative forces in the history of man. I stand with all of you for that reason, keep speaking out and defend the man and his legacy and his creation, never let those who would destroy and subvert our myths win. This was a phenomenal speech and video Cramer, keep up the fight.

[@RichardT2112]

We stand behind you!! For Tolkien!!

[@zidanelionheart]

For Frodo!

[@Whitby_Abbeys_Ghost]

TO WARRRRR!!!!!!

[@Gokkee]

Deeeeeeath!!!!

[@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473]

“Those that stand for something will fall for nothing”

[@mosj9876]

@@zidanelionheart "For Family!" - Dom Torreto

[@cz7425]

"If you don't care, then don't try to force that on the rest of us as if apathy were a virtue." 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@capnpicard6146]

Treat ROP like its the one ring itself, YOU MUST NEVER PUT IT ON FRODO!

[@h.b.hatecraft953]

I take joy in the knowledge that if J.R.R was alive today he'd be called a racist, sexist bigot and he'd be leading the army of fan trolls attacking Amazon.

[@LBrobie]

yeah, he'd totally be cancelled for decrying this show.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Tolkien even refers to himself as becoming more bigoted with age, in his address at Oxford

[@h.b.hatecraft953]

@@LivingAnachronism 🤣

[@Fettman89]

If Tolkein was alive this show wouldn't exist, straight up, sadly, the Peter Jackson movies, probably wouldn't exist either, maybe they would, but potentially not.

[@h.b.hatecraft953]

@@Fettman89 You bring up a real concern. Digital streaming media has made us lazy. We all need to invest into hard copies of the things you love. Companies change and remove digital media all the time. Amazon has even been caught editing people's kindle books. Keep hard copies of as much as you can.

[@loverlei79]

I never thought I would fall in agape love with someone in KZbin for being a honorable human being with integrity. But here we are.

[@texasbeast239]

The "Why do you care?" line reminded me of an exchange in R.A. Salvatore's novel _The Crystal Shard,_ where a jaded, frustrated dwarf fighter asked a goodly dark elf ranger why the elf kept striving for the welfare of nearby human townsfolk. Though he never hurt anyone who didn't deserve it (and often not even then), the dark elf or drow, Drizzt Do'Urden, kept intercepting and eliminating dangers on the townsfolk's behalf. Most recently, though, he had warned them of their complacency and lack of preparation for a danger bigger than himself. But his warnings and observations fell on deaf ears. He was not one of them. *“No,” growled the dwarf. “We’ll fight beside [the human fishermen] if they choose to stand together[...]. Go to them, if ye wish, an’ good luck to ye, but [ask] nothing o’ the dwarves. Let us see what grit an’ guts the fisherfolk can muster.”* *Drizzt smiled at the irony of Bruenor’s refusal. Both of them knew well that the drow was not trusted, not even openly welcomed, in any of the towns[...]. Bruenor marked the drow’s look, and it pained him as it pained Drizzt, though the elf stoically pretended otherwise.* *“They owe ye more than they’ll ever know,” Bruenor stated flatly, turning a sympathetic eye on his friend.* *“They owe me nothing!”* *Bruenor shook his head. “Why do ye care?” he growled. “Ever yer watchin’ over the folk that show ye no good will. What do ye owe to them?”* *Drizzt shrugged, hard-pressed to find an answer. Bruenor was right. When the drow had first come to this land [...] only one [...] had shown him any friendship at all [...].* *“I do not know why I care,” Drizzt answered honestly. His eyes turned back to his ancient homeland where loyalty was merely a device to gain an advantage over a common foe. “Perhaps I care because I strive to be different from my people,” he said, as much to himself as to Bruenor. “Perhaps I care because I am different from my people[...] …that is my hope at least. I care because I have to care about something. You are not so different, Bruenor Battlehammer. We care lest our own lives be empty.”* *Bruenor cocked a curious eye.* *“You can deny your feelings for the people of Ten-Towns to me, but not to yourself.”* [...] *But the drow didn’t press the issue any further.* *So the friends watched in silence as the lights of [the nearest town] went down, one by one.* *Despite his outward callousness, Bruenor realized how true some of the drow’s accusations had rung; he had come to care for the people who had settled on the banks of the three lakes. ( **_The Crystal Shard,_** Ch.5)*

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Hopefully crystal shard is getting no woke adaption

[@apwynbleiddn]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral it will, because RAS himself, is woke and has already apologised for it all being based on "racist tropes"

[@karinefonte516]

@@apwynbleiddn Oh please don't say that...

[@LivingAnachronism]

I must read this book

[@Fenixsniperz]

@@LivingAnachronism It's an excellent series.

[@TexasJack1886]

I usually reserve judgement until I've actually watched something but the marketing and cast/creator interviews have made it very clear what direction they want to take this in and their ad hominem attacks on people like us solidify my apprehension re the series.

[@torq21]

If only the cast would just have kept their mouths shut. Every time I hear one of these bozos speak.... How can I watch the show and not hear their ignorant words through their modern tongue?

[@metalsadman]

yeah they're so hell bent on the message rather than the story.

[@violetfem1808]

I LOVED his opening - we will *never* sit down & SHUP - let them complain that we never stop. We should never stop becuz they don't ever stop

[@georgechapman9688]

How interesting that the interviews for HotD aren't so proud to be the first of this or inclusivity that. A show with actors not activists and its... more Popular 🤔

[@violetfem1808]

@@georgechapman9688 They literally advertise that we're the enemies... yet ppl still tune in

[@Randall_Kildare]

32:58 All the stories, legends, tales of courage & bravery we've read or viewed or pretended... were preparing us for *times such as these.*

[@psychogerbil64]

Once more I feel my duty as a fan calling on me. Not only as a fan of Tolkien, but as a fan of truth, a fan of literature, and a fan of all that is good. (I hope I live up to that at least)

[@Ewiril]

By the end you literally had me in tears... Great video my brother, my captain, my king.

[@thebaron2277]

never bend the knee to amazon, never be seduced by their dark gifts "i will not die like this, cowering, clawing for breath,(...) If this is to end in fire than we shall all burn together"-Thorin II Oakenshield, King Under The Mountain

[@defaultytuser]

Out of a flawless video like this , I'd like to point out that 27:16 onwards drove me into a state of sheer sexual arousal. Now seriously, I was laughing hard (no pun intended) because of your impersonation, but at the same time you perfectly described their PR tactics. Gaslight & shadowban , rinse and repeat. The thoroughness with which you dive into the rabbit hole shows a clarity of mind that is sadly absent in many youtubers. This channel is bound to keep growing: The Kramer has been released.

[@anonymousanonymous2720]

When galadriel said "tell them the north remembers, tell them winter came for house frey". Literally goosebumps.

[@mosj9876]

When BAtman told Guy-Lad-Driel "Do you bleed?...You will!" as he drove the batmobile into The Golden Forest of Lothlorien. Epic! The tension builds as the Elves sound the horns of NASCAR rallies.

[@kaseyfife5126]

🤣 Oh? That was your favorite part? Mine was when she said "Yes, all men must die...but we are not men." I practically melted into the floor... 🤣

[@pira707]

@@kaseyfife5126 yea then the cameo of arya stark right after that line... absolute goose bumps on my arms as arya and galadriel fought both the night king and sauron

[@kaseyfife5126]

@@pira707 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Absolutely STUNNING and so BRAVE, aren't they?

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

@@pira707 I was waiting for the Terminator to walk in and help them kill all men. Sad they skipped over that part. Still glad they did include the German stormtroopers with their turbo lasers. Would not have been lore accurate without them

[@evalikesred]

Oof... That was a good speech! 😭 I've seen a lot of interesting videos from content creators of all ilk on this topic, but yours is by far the most heartfelt and passionate. 100% agree with you. I'm but a small person on the internet, my pushback can only be minimal. You have my like and a follow though, so that your voice can be amplified and heard through all the realms.

[@LivingAnachronism]

“Yet such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels of the world: small hands do them because they must, while the eyes of the great are elsewhere.” JRR Tolkien. Thank you Eva

[@evalikesred]

@@LivingAnachronism This is such a timely & beautiful quote, thank you! I'll use it wisely.

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

This kinda shit is WHY gatekeeping is not only good, but NEEDED! Its not about stopping someone from liking something and excluding them from being part of its community. Its about stopping someone who DOESN'T like that thing and wants it and the community to change for them, whilst also trying to exclude long time people within the community who don't agree. Gatekeeping isn't about keeping FANS out, its about keeping non-fans out.

[@Njordin2010]

This. Every good and successful organisation / group does gatekeep. Even your country does gatekeep becoming a citizen. Your company gatekeeps. Soccer teams gatekeep. Universities gatekeep. Your local gardening community gatekeeps.

[@Brokenlance]

This makes no sense. You were once a non fan. Who suddenly made you the arbiter of what a fan should be? Granted I’m not defending what Amazon is doing to the LOTR, but to be a gate keeper is to also take a privileged stance on a topic you once were a new comer to. It’s arrogant.

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

@@Brokenlance if you don’t understand, that’s on your lack of ability to to comprehend meaning without having obvious details explained. Especially as it’s explained pretty damn well in this vid.

[@Brokenlance]

@@RainMakeR_Workshop It's not that I don't understand, I'm just calling out the fault in the logic. You do not get to suddenly be the judge on who should and should not be a fan, as you were once yourself an outsider to that fanbase. Also, I'm just going to add while I agree Amazon is butchering the IP, if the fanbase is in agreement then just don't watch the show and leave a negative review. Corporations only respond to money and engagement. If the merch doesn't sell, the ratings are low and reviews tank the show, they may try for one more season then give up. You don't have to be a pompous ass about it and tell people that they don't deserve to be a fan because you said so. And If you are outnumbered by those who like the woke version of LOTR, and the ratings and engagement stay up then it doesn't matter how many people you deem "fake fans" that you gatekeep, Amazon will just have it's way. The world and society changes. It is what it is. My personal favorite fantasy series is The Elder Scrolls, you won't see me telling people they aren't allowed to be a fan of the series, even if their opinions are whack, because I can humble myself and realize that I am not the end all be all for an IP. Neither are you.

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

@@Brokenlance You clearly don’t understand. As you seem to think gatekeeping is intended to prevent discovery or enjoyment. It is not. It’s impossible to stop someone picking up a hobby, book, show, movie, game or anything else that might have a fandom and stop them from liking it. Frankly the fact you don’t see that extremely obvious fact without my spelling it out, says you’re either unable to see blatant implicit meaning, insincere, incendiary or any combination of the three. Gatekeeping is about keeping troublemakers out of the community that seek to either tear down that community, or force unwelcome change on the product which the community is built around. It doesn’t prevent someone being a fan. No gatekeeping, means people who want to destroy the things you love are given free reign to do so. So there is no flaw in my logic. The flaw is in your understanding of what you mistakenly think my logic is.

[@mikestanmore2614]

This was an excellent video. I agree with you wholeheartedly. There may come a day when the courage of Tolkien's fans fails, but it is *not* this day.

[@livierae95]

Preach, brother! So many amazing points in this video! I was originally excited for this show before anything substantial came out, but I will never watch it, mostly due to how the show runners have treated the fans. That’s the true difference between this show and the PJ movies, in my opinion. When pictures of Arwen in Helm’s Deep leaked before the PJ movies came out, the fans threw a justified fit. PJ’s team saw the uproar and rightly removed Arwen from the sequence. PJ respected the fans and realized his movies wouldn’t be a success without them. This show will not be a success without us, but they will lie through their teeth and never admit wrongdoing.

[@sindurgoku8022]

Me: What can man do against such reckless hate? Living Anachronism: Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them.

[@LivingAnachronism]

So true

[@MsEnglishtea]

Not everything that looks beautiful or true turns out to be so. I've had some Amazon prime fans tell me that the Rings of Power looks beautiful and ask me why I don't think the same as they do. Because it's more than that, the story is just as important, as the stories that Tolkien wrote. It's fair to say it should be told in the way that he wrote it. I would be pissed if someone took my grandfather's work of art only to have it changed dramatically by others. If I'm honest it doesn't look that great either I can't get over the awful costume designs. I enjoyed three of your videos. What makes good costume designs, Aragorn's bow, and what makes good costume details. I feel like those that designed the costumes for The Rings Of Power should watch your videos because again those costumes are terrible, they don't look like they belong in that world.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

I don't even think it looks beautiful. Sure, there are a couple of nice looking CGI shots, but look closer and it falls apart. The costumes look cheap and fake for one thing.

[@daviddafflon4392]

Everything that shines is not gold. All those who wander are not lost. RoP sure looks beautiful, but it has no soul.

[@Han-rw9ev]

It like the Star Wars sequels. You THINK you're watching Star Wars movies. Until you start paying attention. RESPECT THE LORE

[@PoopaChallupa]

It should be told the way he wrote it because that's what sets it apart from everything else. It's really that simple.

[@mosj9876]

"In the end They were all decieved!" - Galadriel If you give them an inch they will take a mile.

[@KalonOrdona2]

And this is why I subscribed following your previous call to arms. Well done, sir! I have been waiting for this. In the gap from then to now, George the Giant Slayer has been best carrying the standard, in my mind. Obviously we're all rallying together, that's the point, but I think you have the best things to say, when you say them. I think you best recognize and articulate the line in the sand that this is not only for us, not only for Tolkien, but for the refugees from other stories the darkness has consumed. Forth! and fear no darkness!

[@Lillogicaallegria]

"for the refugees from other stories the darkness has consumed" is a beautiful line

[@LivingAnachronism]

"I hope the others find a safer road. I don't suppose we shall see them again" "We may yet Mr. Frodo. We may." Fellowship of the ring Is the hope I hold for the other franchises as well. Those taken prisoner, and those yet untainted. Thank you for you support and kind vote of confidence, Kalon

[@kobelinchen]

No hate watching. Very important. NO H A T E watching! I'm looking forward for the game of thrones series 🥰.

[@rockinHurley777]

So far I've heard it good. But yes. To all those other channels that "hate watch" to rip it apart.. honestly shouldn't give it any attention.

[@kobelinchen]

@@rockinHurley777 I hope it's good! My husband and I waiting until all episodes are online and then we'll watching it. ☺️

[@MyAramil]

@@rockinHurley777 Paid reviews are not true reviews.

[@ohifonlyx33]

If you MUST watch, do not give your views to Amazon. Personally I will be temporarily subscribing to HBO and watching the extended editions of LOTR on repeat.

[@rockinHurley777]

@@MyAramil the people saying it's good are nerdrotic and the efap gang. Don't think they're paid for.

[@fishraposo7192]

"They brought in pawns but we have the power to turn them into knights" is such an amazing and inspiring statement. Thank you.

[@falvlynn2303]

I'm really sorry. I'm so sorry that I was one of the people who wanted to give the series a chance. For me personally, The Wheel of Time was the first thing I love that amazon prime defecated on. I wanted it to be good. I blamed the pandemic and wished for season two to be better. And when I saw and didn't like the trailers for the Rings of Power, I tried not to judge the show by it. You don't juge a book by it's cover, after all. I believe in second chances and I hoped that the criticism for wheel of time might have taugth them something. But boy, was I naive. I did watch the first two episodes of RoP and they were even worse than WoT. Thing is, I am an activist. I tell people that I want representation. But in the future, I have to specify: I absolutely don't want *this*. I want great books written by LGBTQ+ people, people of colour - and by straight white men. If someone has a great story to tell, I wanna know! I want more people to get to know amazing stories like Jordan Ifuekos Raybearer, because there are sooo many fantasy stories possible, based on other stuff than the european middle ages. I want to hear the stories of boys and girls, men and women and those who a neither of all skin colours, I want gay romances and asexual love stories. But I want it to be their stories, our stories. I don't want stuff just randomly crammed into stories where it doesn't belong for a cash grab or whatever the intention of this bullshit is. I sure as hell don't want amazon prime to fuck up all of these amazing stories and pretend it's a totally reasonable idea to f-ing swim from aman to middle earth. This is just stupid. At least, I started reading the books to my family a year ago - and you just motivated me to do more.

[@chippyonline001]

It's quite alright, stand with us still. What they did to WoT is horrible... Hold the line with us, for Tolkien. Amazon shall not pass this time.

[@lucaadrianmartinez9190]

@@chippyonline001 I'm still asking... What's the sinopsis of the Wheel Of Time. Because if it is the story I have read I have to say that the books suck ass. I recommend fiercely the Prince of Nothing Trilogy.

[@chippyonline001]

@@lucaadrianmartinez9190 I can't help you much with WoT, I tried to get into it but I just couldn't get through the first half of the first book... I still have an old copy, I still do try to reread it but it just does not click for me.

[@Han-rw9ev]

This is brilliant and SO spot on. There's a lot here I can relate to (and, yeah, Tolkien affected my life in a big way, growing up) , but also a lot I hadn't been aware of, or had even considered. I guess it's just like Amazon, picking out convenient bits of sentences for their PR , without showing what they were REALLY about. Those guys really ARE a pack of deceptive liars.... Anyway, the fact that Tolkien didn't separate language and literature, in a way explains his writings . There's a poetry to his words and a magic in his stories that is uncommon. And Amazon wants to 'update' it. Morons... Also, even if Tolkien might have suspected otherwise, he WASN'T alone. WE'RE here. RESPECT THE LORE

[@nillynush4899]

Wait wait wait, so you're telling me that an uncaring globalist shipping monopoly that uses asian slaves... are evil, and lie? What a twist! All Bezos and Amazog did was throw debased currency at the wall to see what stuck, and the only franchise not halfway ruined yet, was John Tolkien's baby... ripe for the taking.

[@curtis5799]

You have my sword! No matter what comes through that gate, we will stand our ground!!!

[@imagine3533]

Great video! The Rotten Tomato Reviews about the Series prove, that we are not alone at all! Some of the Bad Reviews talk about the series jusg being bad, but a lot talk about Tolkien and how his creation needs to be protected. Oh and congrats for 35.000 Subscribers 🥳

[@vietbluecoeur]

I easily confess that I never had any interest in watching Rings of Power. LOTR is just lovely as it is, and The Hobbit series made me realize the wariness that’s frankly needed when people decide to further adapt more of Tolkien’s work but then stretch it unnecessarily into a series - and now here we are with a full TV series that’s just mashed together a bunch of things from Tolkien’s writings! It’s enough for me to give Amazon’s series a side-eye for sure. Also, mostly a tangent: but I really adore that quote you used at the start from Tolkien, the one about learning language and grammar. I’ve recently decided to dive deeper into properly learning Old English, because it’s so fascinating, but my understanding of its grammar and conjugation rules is so weak and struggling that it’s been a bit disheartening, but that quote from Tolkien is very encouraging. I will do my best!

[@ardisgreenwater857]

Quite a noble task you chose for yourself. Good luck! :D

[@LivingAnachronism]

Best of luck studying Old English, I myself have also tried learning, various words and their meanings, specifically suffixes and prefixes, to use in the names of various places and characters I create.

[@beksc9209]

Ooh, if you KZbin "Beowulf in Old English," you will find it chanted/sung in OE by a man with a harp! Nothing else, just his voice and a harp. It is neat to listen to, even tho the only words I reliably recognized were "aetheling" and "Hrothgar."

[@GGJiaJia]

@@beksc9209 thank you for this! I'm going to check it out!!

[@Snoop_Dugg]

Start with modern German to dip your toes into it. A lot of the rules were the same.

[@jlars8737]

Keep up the amazing work! You are not only speaking for thousands that do not have the means or courage to speak, but are doing so eloquently and with wisdom and heart.

[@user-vr9uo5rq1b]

With all honesty: you nearly brought me to tears in the end….. thank you for the inspiration!

[@pranavtripathi2890]

Thank you so much for taking a stand! 🙌🙏 Fans across cultures and regardless of the differences in their appearances will unite to defend Tolkien! Let us not give up fans! Perseverance conquers all! 🙏

[@haleyschreiter9746]

Thank you for another impassioned and thorough defense of our beloved Professor!! It is truly an encouragement and an inspiration to the Faithful fans. "I see that Saruman has many descendants. We hobbits have against them no magic weapons. Yet, my gentlehobbits, I give you this toast: To the Hobbits! May they outlast the Sarumans and see spring again in the trees." J.R.R. Tolkien

[@orangeninja8022]

A note on gatekeeping: I watched the LotR (extended edition) movies when I was in middle school. I watched them over and over and over again until I had them memorized. They were the most beautiful and inspiring movies I'd ever seen. However, there were many people who said I wasn't a true LotR fan beause I'd never read the books. They intimidated me: one of my friends read the first one and said it waa horrifically boring. But I really didn't like being told that I wasn't a true LotR fan because I hadn't read the books. Finally, when I graduated high school, I read the books, and loved them. The language was beautiful, it was like reading a painting. I loved it. And I was happy because no one could tell me I wasn't a true fan anymore. When we gatekeep, we state that people can't join the community of true lovers of that thing unless they meet certain criteria. If the people who don't meet those criteria actually do love that thing, they will do whatever it takes to meet that criteria and be permitted to pass through the gates and join the community of fellow fans; as I did with LotR and Tolkein. If they don't have actual love in their hearts for the IP, they will simply whine about being excluded. This I think is one of the merits of gatekeeping. We don't share that which is precious to us with just anyone; we share it only with those who will treat it with proper respect. This is the meaning and importance of gatekeeping.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Very well said Orange Ninja, and I completely agree

[@lynnm6413]

I spent 9 years learning English in school and on my second visit to London I bought a paperback copy of The Lord of the Rings and was astonished at the vivid pictures of the landscape, the warmth and honesty of the friendships and the struggles against an unknowable evil that had to be faced….I read it in the summer, all in one go because I was so enchanted, I couldn‘t put the book down! Everyone who hasn‘t yet picked up the book, I envy you this wonderful first time journey through Middle Earth, it was one of my best summer experiences at home 😀

[@michaelyoung7261]

Just as the old man stood up against Loki, declaring him a tyrant, so too should we stand up whenever a person or group tells us to bow the knee. Only one God will cause all knees to bend and all heads to bow, and Amazon is not that God. So lift your light, however small, and shine in the darkness. Share that light whenever you can, because sharing a light can only make it grow brighter!!

[@LivingAnachronism]

We do not kneel!

[@brucewayne5919]

We stand with J.R.R. Tolkien! You made another great video!

[@Richwiking318]

Thanks Batman

[@brucewayne5919]

@@Richwiking318 😳....... Ssshhhhh🤫

[@jquest716]

After watching this all I have to say is if by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword! ⚔

[@Charlie-dx6bv]

Lord of the Rings always gets a pass, Rings of Power....not so much...

[@remconoordermeer7015]

Your passion and knowledge are inspiring, thank you. In my view, as a fandom, we dealt the first blow by pushing back. Amazon genuinely didn't expect a reaction of this magnitude. You can see how fear and spite are governing their actions . I'd say that the Battle for Helm's Deep is over, the Battle for Middle Earth is about to begin. Honestly I wasn't sure how to fight back now. That is: until I saw your video. Again, thank you.

[@LivingAnachronism]

I am glad I could help in the small way I am able.

[@pittland44]

Love the outfit and your office layout. It reminds me of Conan when he describes what is best in life. Kramer, what is best in life? To crush the show runners of Rings of Power, see the "super fans" driven before you and to hear the lamentations of Jeff Bezos.

[@khylerbane4523]

That is good.

[@thebaron2277]

he kinda looks like Bard. the outfit and the hair/beard all look similar

[@LivingAnachronism]

@Pittland44 Great comment

[@pittland44]

@@thebaron2277 Absolutely.

[@pittland44]

@@LivingAnachronism Much appreciated. Keep up the great work.

[@jamesmountforge7523]

(There was once here a story of my own that echoed this videos sentiment, but I will not take away from this masterful piece) Will we let an evil and grotesque corporation like Amazon destroy the only good thing left to us like a drug abuser and corrupt with it the hearts of more of our brothers and sisters? I think not! I stand with you and all the fandom! Unite and stand!

[@andeeanko7079]

Oh my God, what an utterly sad story! Your poor uncle. I hope he'll be ok. I wish for your cousin to get the help he needs, and far away from your uncle.

[@jamesmountforge7523]

@@andeeanko7079 Thank you for your concern, my friend.

[@LivingAnachronism]

I did not have the chance to read what you evidently redacted, but, from what I can glean, I wish your family luck, and pray that the help that is needed finds them. Be well, James.

[@jamesmountforge7523]

@@LivingAnachronism Thank you, man!

[@craigdurso3005]

“ There comes a time in a kings life where gold loses its luster , when the gems cease to sparkle , the very throne itself becomes a prison … And all that is left , is a fathers love for his daughter “ King Osric , Conan the Barbarian

[@69SalterStreet]

There is something so wonderful about your recitation. I feel like a maintaining a small internal library of quotes and poems used to be expected of educated people but now it’s a lost skill.

[@Glorfindel_117]

First, THANK YOU Second, that set looks awesome, well done on making that!

[@danielpowell9891]

Tolkien loves each word like a lover loves his paramour. He caresses and cherishes language. Tolkien is High Literature.

[@GrayghostAlpha]

I was going to watch and see, but the promotional material itself convinced me I didn't want to watch this butchery of Tolkien. If we're wrong, and like you I hope we are, I'll hear about it from good folks like you. Keep up the good work.

[@MyAramil]

I was going to give it a try, but when they went on, and on, and on about how diverse they are, And anyone who does not like the rings of power is one of the SEVERELY over watered words(racist, sexist, transphobe etc). Even if the show would be amazing the deflection to criticism/worry about the final product is pushing me away

[@TheOGBasementGremlin]

Sir you have ignited once more in me that burning passion of literature. I haven’t felt its warmth in years as they swished by like the fleeting wind. I’m whisked back to my days of young childhood, earning the teacher’s disappointment and the class recognition of bookworm while I smuggled the yarn of Narnia under my desk and into eager eyes. Your passion for the series has guided me to my mothers bookcase, and to the dusty awaiting tome so named after the people of the shire. I thank you with the full depth of my heart good sir and wish you only the best in your own literary endeavors

[@TiCFe]

Got actual chills with that ending!

[@dragonking791]

This is incredible. So well done. Glad you made this video on a “trending topic” because it allowed me to find your channel. Really fantastic. Looking forward to going through you videos!

[@LivingAnachronism]

Welcome DragonKing!

[@bi-winning6594]

Bro, you are literally awesome! Thank you so much for defending Tolkien’s name and legacy since his relatives refuse to do so. When this crap is over, the hobbit trilogy is gonna look like a masterpiece. It’s the Star Wars sequel war all over again.

[@Rodelero]

When galadriel looked over her troops, spit, belched and said, "it's elven' time!" I stood up and clapped

[@patrickbateman3146]

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[@dislikebutton9571]

such a brave and antiracist queen, when she transitioned and punched that fascist i shit myself and died.

[@dirk.claassen]

From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for saying everything so honestly, but also eloquently. Thank you for displaying our love for Tolkien so accurately and passionately. Thank you for addressing so many topics and issues with Amazon’s “adaptation”. I like your “Tolkien voice” reading the quotes. Hehe. Amazon’s marketing campaign and their behaviour towards the fandom is appalling. Their manipulation via the corporate media is what infuriates me most. They are always either misquoting and misrepresenting Tolkien or are directly insulting him and his work and trying to undo what he created. When we have very valid criticisms regarding the show not actually having access to the source material to create the show, time period, disregarding lore, characters, visuals, music, history etc. they simply play their “special” cards and call us all sorts of -ists and -phobes. Which in not the case. This isn’t a modern story. It should not resemble our current world. It is simply about what makes sense for tolkien’s legendarium. A number of women, people of colour, the lgbt community and people with disabilities have come forward to say they don’t agree with what Amazon is doing. They don’t want to be represented just for the sake of ticking a box. The actors/activists disregard them and keep on singing the same old tune while promoting this. It is sad how Amazon has corrupted some “fan clubs” and “scholars” to try and convince everyone to praise the show. They want us to feel like we are losing a battle, that we are a only a hand full of grumpy purists that are outraged for no reason. They want us to doubt ourselves and our values. They want the fans to be divided. Why, I do not understand exactly… considering the massive fanbase of Tolkien and Peter Jackson’s movies they would have instantly won over if they just stuck with what Tolkien wrote instead of “reinterpreting” it. But it has to do with control and power. If they have to burn a billion dollars to accomplish their goal of getting “the message” out, or whatever else their plan is, they will. If you can vandalise one of the most iconic and best selling literary works of all time, then what else is left of culture and art? Nothing… This is not news, but taking on Tolkien was really bold on their side. There will be nothing to stop them from “correcting” other stories if they succeed. How far until they completely erase all cultures, traditions and history itself. There won’t be true diversity. Only blind global consumerism. If you are wondering, I am not British or American. I am from South Africa, the county where Tolkien was born. I am obviously aware of apartheid and the wrongs of the past. Unfortunately, I can also say that the way Amazon is trying to “rectify” Tolkien’s “problematic writing” (which in itself is a very false assumptions by Amazon’s Tolkien “scholars”) will only do more harm than good. The thing is, true Tolkiens fans see through this. It goes against all principles and themes in his books. The dislikes on their trailers clearly show it (I wish everyone could see it), as well as all the comments and reaction videos. We are the majority!!! Don’t be fooled by those “news” articles. They are paid mouthpieces. It is just sad that Amazon won’t be giving accurate figures of their viewership. They already decided they are going to rig this. They will call it a success no matter how bad it fails. Their future depends on it. They want a monopoly, not just in entertainment, but all sectors. Look up all the companies they and Bezos owns. I think that the section about “What do we do?” is excellent advice. We have to show other people the true magnificence of Tolkien’s work. His work of art. We have to keep reminding ourselves of it and not lose our love for Middle Earth in the midst of this battle. We have to keep it alive. Rings of Power will not tarnish Tolkien’s legacy. It will not stand the test of time. Even if it turns out to be a decent or good show (I am sure a billion dollars can get you somewhere), I don’t think they deserve success with how they hardled the whole situation and unethical tactics. Perhaps someday we can see the tales in the Silmarillion done justice by the actual fandom. There is obviously still a great demand for it. Once again, thanks for making this video. I really appreciate it.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you, my friend, and greetings to South Africa, from the United States. I would say, perhaps part of the goal is this. If we cannot even defend a fair story, a fantasy that we enjoy, then how on earth could we defend our actual society. You are more then right, in all your well spoken words, even if we were to assume the intentions of this were good (which I don't) it will do more harm than good. And given that the ends are negative, no matter the spin, I believe, that at least in the case of some of those involved, it is intentional.

[@beksc9209]

Well-said, sir, well-said!

[@djokealtena2538]

I have seen them ruin the beloved places I called home. Captain Picard and his crew were those I looked up to, hope for a better future and feel more accepted for being different as characters such as Data & Worff often spoke to me, where Picard functioned as a sort of mentor figure. Gandalf was very much the same. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings gave me hope despite fearing what was to come or feeling worthless in a society that pushed us nerds and geeks aside. Doctor Who challenged what I thought, putting an emphasis on doing the right thing and fighting for what you believed in. Farscape, Babylon 5, you name them. The more I read Tolkien's words, the more often I rewatch the movies, the more I fall in love with it all over again. I am at this point that I will no longer accept the corruption of what I love. I despise what Amazon and Hollywood have done to the fandoms I loved and I watched as they were butchered upon the altar of 'diversity', weeping afterwards as we were left to pick up the shattered remains. I am not going to pick up anymore... I will hold the line or die trying. Time to pull a Fingolfin my fellow brothers and sisters. Time to ride up to the Gates of Amazon and call them out for being Craven. If we don't stand now then when?

[@LivingAnachronism]

"If not now when?" Exactly, my friend. Proud to stand by your side.

[@kellysouter4381]

I didn't know anyone else liked Farscape. My family laughed at me for it. I have all the series as boxed sets. Shame the last movie was a bit much.

[@AnotherDuck]

@@kellysouter4381 Farscape was fun. Sure, it had some problems (few shows don't), but on the whole it was worth watching.

[@AnotherDuck]

Honestly, when it comes to pushing diversity, I think Star Trek is actually a good fit for that. It was a notable message in the original series, so I don't think modernising that is in itself bad. However, the problem most creators have when pushing an agenda like diversity is that they're not actually pushing for diversity - they're virtue signaling for the purpose of cashing in on a popular franchise. They're also often doing it by pushing others down, which is the opposite of diversity.

[@deespaeth8180]

@@kellysouter4381 my husband and I love farscape and babylon 5.

[@kirstihudson564]

I appreciate this video and the enthusiasm for Tolkien. ❤️ very great thoughts, and standing strong to what is true about the Professor.

[@_Adjei_]

"Don't ask questions. Just consume product and then get excited for next product." 😏

[@suepedie1]

Very tired of being accused of racism & misogyny. The lowest form of criticism is name calling.

[@TheTolkienShirt]

Having heard the call, I stand by you and I speak. And even though my voice is not loud or powerful, I will not be silent.

[@richardduska1558]

22:00 I got upset of bad adaptations a long time ago. But this one could be the absolut worst and most insulting out of them all.

[@TallisKeeton]

I was raised by my grandma (a teacher) who was born during I WW and lived through II WW occupation and by my ma (a lawyer) who was born during II WW and lived tru Stalin regime times - and so to be able to stay true to their techings about culture, art and about honor and freedom I will NEVER be forced to claim to be rasist or fashist or whatever these hateful spiteful adult toddlers from cancerous elites of USA imagine about other ppl ! And I m pround to be between Tolkien fans - between them I lived tru THE happiest years of my youth ! And I m grateful and proud I was raised by my grandma and my parents IN my Polish and European heritage. They can do whatever they like to me but I will never stand still while they slander Tolkien and my European heritage !

[@loverlei79]

You forgot Earthsea. The very first destroyed Fandom.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

Reading an interview with the woman playing Galadriel makes me hope she will one day do a remake of Saving Private Ryan with women as the soldiers, so she can finaly identify with the people being shot to pieces, dying in mud and blood. I would watch it

[@ohifonlyx33]

I'm not a 100% book purist, which is why I adore good adaptations of classic books from Jane Austen and Tolkien ...but the core must be there: the themes, the characterization, the spirit of the work, the world it inhabits, and the general shape of the plot. If changes are made, the viewers should understand why they were cut or added for film. I can generally forgive a few bad costumes or fakey greenscreen... That is why sometimes I find critiques can be too nitpicky and tedious. This is not one of those... This is spot on. This is about a corporatized, political perversion and subversion of the professor's works in the name of ideology. On the outside it seems silly to think it matters what fictional characters do, say, or look like... but considering the detail and care put into Arda and the deeper still impact of Eru Ilúvatar's themes.... this is the work of Melkor. Edit: the last two minutes or so have left me crying 😢 😭 🤧

[@JezielProdigalSon]

Yea, to me its not really about what theyre doing, but why theyre doing it.

[@DruidicRifleman]

I am appreciating how well made the Cartoon was.

[@BKPrice]

The Rings of Power is like the proverbial snake that tries to convince you to carry it across the river, and once you're halfway across it bites you. "You knew what I was when you picked me up."

[@BovineDesigns]

The literal point of a trailer is to sell it's audience on watching the thing it is advertising for. They're mad that they haven't sold us on it, and are blaming the fans for their own shoddy work.

[@TheAyeAye1]

I watched Star Trek and Dr. Who be made worthless because there wasn't an organized defense. There's actual hope to keep Tolkien's work from being mutated into nothing but subpar content.

[@nillynush4899]

If I didn't know any better, I'd say Bezos+Amazon basically waited until after Christopher died to really start putting the screws on co-opting LOTR.

[@spilchsaysstuff1427]

@@nillynush4899 Didn't Christopher Tolkien dislike Peter Jackson's movies calling them silly action films for children.

[@Shrouded_reaper]

Not really any hope honestly, the Tolkien estate (see; spoiled rich kid brats) will sell out the rights as they need more money. Amazon doesn't care, it's not about producing a profitable product, they can just write off losses in their taxes. It's about having the rights, the control and power along with demoralising people who enjoyed a specifically European centred story.

[@Shrouded_reaper]

@@spilchsaysstuff1427 He did indeed dislike them for similar reasons to what you have stated. However the majority of fans received them positively, because they captured the FEEL of Tolkien's work. I personally think they also captured the written work fairly well, cutting out some less relevant chapters and chopping and changing dialogue to fit the film medium is hardly a grievous sin. It would be hard to make the movies truly worthy and epic if you just copy and pasted Tolkien's somewhat dry battle segments into film medium (the silly action film criticism). Even if you did not like the Peter Jackson movies you have to admit they are night and fucking day compared to what Amazon is shitting out.

[@firebearva]

Amazon and RoP. “There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men bad enough for such treachery.”

[@x47slayer]

That closing speech was something!

[@snafuart]

Dear mate, as much as you are on point in your brilliant way in this video, let me remind you of a powerful weapon you did not mention. This weapon also includes not falling into the trap and playing their game, the one they put up to divide and conquer. "Power, money, persuasion, supplication, persecution-these can lift at a colossal humbug-push it a little-weaken it a little, century by century, but only laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand." ~ Mark Twain "Ridicule is Man's most potent weapon." ~ Saul Alinsky The West, my firend, is standing strong, laughing. Cheers from Germany

[@deespaeth8180]

I'm reading LOTR again. I will be dressing as a hobbit and sharing Middle earth inspired foods for two weeks in mid September.

[@deespaeth8180]

Monday 12th thru Sunday the 24th.

[@alexandernewman9735]

The call to arms still gives me chills to this day.

[@nachgeben]

Goddamn, you're awesome. I don't even have anything else to say. Your takedowns are genuinely amazing.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you

[@beksc9209]

Ooh, you gave me gooseflesh thru the "lesser sons of greater sires" quote. And I laughed when you opened the book and proceeded to quote from memory! I will stand in the shield wall with you, and I will look for others to introduce to Tolkien.

[@williamowens]

Once again Kramer providing the most eloquent lord of the rings videos

[@ThePurpleBookWyrm]

Can I just say you express yourself beautifully? Oration is an art, and you clearly have a gift for it. Otherwise completely agreed with everything you said, great video.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you kindly

[@lothilonnath4451]

Every time I watch you speak on this, I am further impressed, inspired and infused with renewed hope. I was beginning to doubt my own position after being told in video after video by would-be professionals, activist actors, and show runners at Amazon how much we are all bigots if we don't agree with their abominable creation. I am grateful for your use of language in this. Even the length and detail of your stated position is fully justified and needed. It is a complex issue to convey to those not fully educated in the lore of Middle-Earth. A simple, "Elves aren't black" doesn't fully speak to the greater issues and too often seems to fuel the false narrative of who Tolkien fans are. Any true student of Tolkien's work knows he was far ahead of his time in his views. He was quite progressive for a man of the early 20th century. Those who have only glanced at his work through the lens of films, or listened to the rhetoric of those who are blind to Tolkien's actual words, see only the surface, thus drawing inaccurate conclusions. Your video was not full of rancor, but full of facts and sensibilities that has regrettably gotten lost in the greater argument out there in the ether of the internet. I feel like anyone on the fence should be sent a link to this video. It is better explained than I would be able to communicate. I too often allow my deep disappointment in what I'm seeing in this Amazon show cloud my better judgement. You have my gratitude. ⛵

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you Loth

[@legendsofthebravebard]

Having the elves who lived in harmony with nature carve up living trees with whom they could speak and had fellowship to create homages to their dead is the very antithesis of JRR Tolkien's works.

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

Good point!

[@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ]

What's funny is that the same passion for respecting Tolkien has been shown in Lotro (Lord of the Rings Online). There is a reason why they're able to survive for such a long time. They gained the respect of the Fandom. Hell, I spoke to one of the writers for Lotro on a livestream, voicing how Amazon is not only insulting Tolkien and the fans, but they are also devaluing the hard work that the writers of this game go through to make sure the stories in the game, though unique, are respectful to Tolkien's vision. They even have the most accurate look for zones stated in the books down to the most minimal detail. If your character Goss to the Lonelands, you can see the giant tower of Amon Sul's scale and be in awe at how it would've looked in its former glory. That's just one of many examples that adaptations of Tolkien's legendarium are possible. It takes alot of work but I can be done with enough passion and respect. Your channel and many others inspired me and many fans to come out of the shadows and create channels of our own to protest publicly to this outrage. Fun question: has anyone seen Anarion yet in the show?

[@lucaadrianmartinez9190]

Cirdán, Elros, Eärendil, Celebrimbor, The Lich King, Ar-Pharazon, and so on... I doubt any of this characters are in the show.

[@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ]

@@lucaadrianmartinez9190 Ar-Pharazon is in the show. He's the advisor to Miriel that looks like Zeus

[@ovrair6340]

You were one of my favourite channels before, now you are my favourite channel. I will fight alongside you.

[@LivingAnachronism]

Thank you

[@finrod8432]

i love how you break everything down, i'm hoping this will be a warning for other studios NOT to pervert and warp what the original magic of the property has. THANK GOD they don't have the rights to the silmarillion

[@orianhutton8711]

What has been bad, so far, (and it is very, very bad) has been all of the publicity: the teasers, the trailers, the interviews. Compare these to the ones for Peter Jackson's films or, more recently, 'The House of Dragons' and the difference is clear. There has been nothing revealed that would reassure those of us who deeply love Tolkien's legendarium. Those involved in this show say they want it to reflect the modern world, but it only reflects their world and their egos. As a representation of Tolkien's world, it is simply a falsehood. Thank you for keeping up this fight.