Drinker's Chasers - Rings of Power: Girlbosses, Diversity Elves And Tom Bombadil

[@BigBenn2014]

Meanwhile at the seaside, a family of Orcs have opened a tea shoppe. Looks like scones are back on the menu boys!

[@Dark_Snider]

Lol

[@jaypeadieL611]

Orc: its not our fault longpig is delicious and gets even more tastier when tortured and defiled while alive.

[@redpax499]

Take my upvote, damnit

[@theenchiladakid1866]

I would watch that

[@piotrjeske4599]

Gondor racism antagonised the orcs, who wanted to live their own truth

[@YoutubeAccount-li2li]

I'm convinced shows like Rings of Power only exist to launder money. How does it cost 1 billion dollars? Where has all that money gone?

[@chasehedges6775]

“THIS IS WHERE SOMEBODY’S DRUG MONEY WENT!” - Nostalgia Critic, Felix The Cat review. Seriously tho…. Gotta be money scheme

[@docsavage8640]

💯 it's not in the set, costumes, effects, or salaries.

[@HDGaminTutorials]

For a billion dollars I should be able to smell the elfs fart in the show. A BILLION DOLLARS for actual poo.

[@tennisalatable9742]

Thank you! Been saying the same constantly 😅

[@davidbeddoe6670]

@@docsavage8640 Like 1/3rd of it, maybe... if that

[@madwellmusic8995]

I like how everyone knows the Southlands is called Mordor. They all saw the name change like the meteor apparently.

[@chance_ondriezek99]

Congratulations, Amazon. You just gave The Acolyte competition for worst show of 2024

[@chasehedges6775]

They are both some of the shows ever made😂

[@sarico7827]

This made me laugh then got sad because just what's up with this? Like millions lost to ruin legacy.

[@jamiek1714]

I give my vote to ROP.

[@marktrevino1281]

Idk man. Acolyte was cancelled and is now being memory holed. ​@@jamiek1714

[@robertbeisert3315]

Amazon and Disney are industry leaders in film, the way Sony and Ubisoft are in gaming. Their stockholders wish they were leading the other direction, though.

[@docsavage8640]

Black and Asian elves make perfect sense in a mythology created for Britain.

[@YouSuprised]

Don't forget the latina elves. You wouldn't want to mess with these chickas. They go loco my man. Especially when you criticize their elves craft for burritas (which is the taco version of lembas).

[@EvilDoresh]

I'm sure they were the first to leave Middle-Earth before the Third Age

[@zacharyhefner2208]

Yet They cast a white actor for someone from the Middle-East equivalent of Middle Earth.. Are the creators of this show legit brain-damaged?

[@kanamisprs4330]

Can you imagine. Elves with caribean and pakistani accents. Glorious.

[@stevenjackson3906]

It's a part of Britain that looks like downtown LA.🙄

[@tylergoodman3560]

Dear Rings Of Power: You will never have the legacy of Tolkien. Sincerely, a nerd who loves fantasy. 🎉

[@_Uh_Oh_]

The sad thing about Rings of Power is that even drugs don't improve it :|

[@neildaly2635]

Totally. I thought it would at least be funny after a few bongs but it isn’t. Still haven’t managed to finish episode 1

[@YouSuprised]

Don't you think it is crazy that every single culture in Middle-Earth represents Los Angeles?

[@TangoNevada]

I don't care. What's the difference?

[@anon2752]

@@TangoNevada Because the diversity casting is born from the thought of "lotr is too wh1te" which is racist. It makes no biological sense that every race in middle earth would be diverse. Numenorians being diverse is like 1600s hawaii being diverse. Dwarves live underground and have no need for melanin, elves are supposed to be one race of people. Not to mention that they could have had logical diversity in this show. They go to Rhun and that entire place couldve been non-wh1te. Middle earth is supposed to represent old timey britain.

[@YouSuprised]

@@TangoNevada If you want to install Babylon the Great, you must also eat from it's fruits and join its end.

[@swanvictor887]

@@TangoNevada ....which is EXACTLY what the talentless twa** that made this crap, also felt....

[@geekylove3603]

​@@anon2752 You sound like a snowflake.

[@Chimera.JackMeHoff]

Elrond and his merry band of diversity rangers

[@docsavage8640]

At least having them be DEI hires explains their incompetence

[@wishingwell12345]

"It's Gandolfin' Time!" ??

[@SwordofLight001]

This needs more Up votes and that group looks wrong for LOTR. So what DND session is this?

[@TangoNevada]

Why do you care? what Race they are?

[@karlnapp7564]

Rump rangers.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Be extremely honest. In 20~ years, can you imagine ANYONE proudly sporting: Rings of Power, The Acolyte, Wheel of Time, or Wrinkle in Time merch? (Me neither. This Schitt will be remembered more for the memes mocking it than literally anything else.) Contrariwise, for fun... try and think of all the "JAWS" "Jurassic Park" "Godfather" "Scarface" and similar t-shirts you've seen in the last year. Imma guess more than one. (That's what staying power looks like.)

[@Adoyleonon]

I would LOVE a real Wheel of Time movie or show. One day, maybe. I can still hope.

[@GM-db4bv]

​​@@Adoyleononone fantasy world that's not known enough and would make great movies (if done by talented people) is Tad Williams' Osten Ard.

[@TikkiNikki]

Hey now, I have Wheel of Time merch! I love that book series

[@Adoyleonon]

@@TikkiNikki It’s so good! The characters feel like old friends. I think Brandon Sanderson did a wonderful job too. The final books are some of my favorites.

[@TikkiNikki]

@@Adoyleonon Brandon absolutely crushed it! I'm going through the audiobooks now as my reread

[@Madeoftea]

Why is no reviewer talking about how Goldberry was speaking in Tom’s cabin and singing back to Tom, (her name was used in the subtitles for when she was speaking too) but then when not-Gandalf asks about her Tom is cagey and denies it. Sure you could make the excuse that he’s protecting her, but Goldberry is just as into her own world as Tom is, she’s a Demi-spirit too. There’s no need to portray Tom as some cagey hermit, wary of the outside world… It’s the same thing as keeping Galadriel’s husband Celeborn out of the whole story because they selfishly wanted dramatic tension between good and evil and did not trust Tolkiens work to stand on its own. In both, it’s yet again Hollywood afraid to portray healthy, loving relationships that aren’t without conflict or drama or some kind of toxicity. It’s such a borning meta-modern trope. 🤮

[@Pepesilvia267]

I loved the scene in helms deep when the elves arrive. They look badass and carry such a weight of elite soldiers. They then kick ass but eventually die due to overwhelming numbers. None of the elf warriors in rings of power carry that gravitas or fight with such badassery

[@reek4062]

Adding Elves at Helm’s Deep demonstrates Jackson’s *contempt* for the book. It’s a major point in the book: the Elves are abandoning Middle-Earth, leaving it to the Men. The battle of the Hornburg and the battle of the Pelennor Fields are primarily won due to the courage and strength of Men.

[@mbern4530]

I hated that scene since it ruined the point of helm's deep, which was to show men that they still had the strength to fight the forces of evil. The movies were very good, but Jackson totally missed the point of the battle of helm's deep.

[@weimowner884]

Hell, just look at the opening scene in Fellowship, Elves were kicking ass and not bothering to take names. And THAT was still in the 2nd age of the world!

[@monkeybusiness673]

@@reek4062 Fair enough, but I still think it worked well, because it was a personal thing. Bonds are reassured, Characters are reminded of their friendships and duties; and Men and Elves fight side by sight... As everyone oin this show, and pretty much everyone I ever discussed this topic with, said: Yes, Jackson took liberties, and some of them will offend. But the overall effect remains stunning; and captures the essence of what the story *is* very well.

[@Adelina-293]

Artistic license aside it's a good scene, you get an idea of how powerful elves were when a few hundred of them were taking out wave after wave of Uruk Hai, aka super Orcs.

[@edwardp7725]

"Rings of Power is Amazon's Me-ga Blockbuster hit TV show where they showed the world that a bunch of talentless hacks cant produce a quality TV show even with a billion dollars."

[@heartysquid]

I could embezzle half and STILL make a better show...and I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing.

[@adamchoquette1937]

Space Ice would be proud

[@mathewszulman7659]

Not hard, just give Peter Jackson 500mill to make it

[@IG88AAA]

F*cking badass

[@gamingtype4]

6:53 Bad metaphor: “Sauron used me and under his hand I was played like a harp, but to a melody not of my choosing”. Good metaphor: “They played us like a damn fiddle!”

[@silverscorpio24]

"Sauron's probably at Eregion. We need to find out what's going on and defend it from evil." "Let's take five generic soldiers and walk there."

[@davidknight2104]

"Shouldn't we take horses??" U know for speed??

[@silverscorpio24]

@@davidknight2104 "Nah, it'll be fine."

[@wishingwell12345]

Indeed, it's not as if they had a limited cast or a very small set to work with.

[@silverscorpio24]

@@wishingwell12345 Not if this show cost 1 billion dollars.

[@jaypeadieL611]

Go Commander of the Northern Armies, bring your whole army of about 5 elite diverse elves and beat Sauron the middle earth equivalent of satan. I will stay put and just jerk off here and speak in a kingly voice all the time, nothing will go wrong. -high elf guy who acts like how a child thinks an actor should act in a play

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

The Elf Elite Unit looks like they are just about to deliver a sternly worded letter to some Middle Earth HR department about some diversity requirement that has not been met.

[@suziechapstick8236]

"Shit, the Elven HOA has arrived."

[@santiagoramos4157]

After seeing this "elite" team of elves i had to stop. Couldn't continue any further. Kudos to the drinker continuing on ahead

[@Adelina-293]

They're not SAS or Delta Force level much less elf level.

[@TangoNevada]

Why?

[@blowfish1702]

Yet you made it to season 2? You're part of the problem 😂

[@user-lm5hi4cz7i]

The elves of peter jackson were so much better. This isn't good, it's not giving the same aurora they dont look majestic. elves is made of european lore, stop this bs.

[@santiagoramos4157]

@@TangoNevada except for the Tyrone elf, none of the others look battle hardened or dangerous.

[@greenteawizard8720]

One of the biggest things thats uncanny about this production and others like it are the outfits all always look brand new fresh out of the packaging. Even when theyre in places that they definitely would be a mess.

[@EvilDoresh]

Everything is just so sterile in this. Nothing feels natural or lived-in.

[@feyrband]

Seeing dangalf in full natural light really made you appreciate how poorly done his makeup and costume are

[@screech3859]

That was opinion of the entire Fallout show. Everything was so clean after the apocalypse.

[@wishingwell12345]

Exactly, how does it not occur to them that people in this setting would almost never have access to clean, new clothing?

[@Melted_Butter]

Said the same thing to the missus when watching it. They were INSIDE a monster after going through mud. Yet they were clean as whistles! This is show is dumb.

[@dawidwidera1819]

There is a rumor that thanks to this TV series UK will reach zero carbon emitions 30 years ahead of the schedule! All thanks to the energy of J R.R. Tolkien turning in his grave! "Ambitious engineering project launched, after Oxford University geologists discovered a seismic anomaly in area of J.R.R Tolkien burial place. Data indicates it's possibly a source of unlimited energy..."

[@heartysquid]

He he

[@suziechapstick8236]

We have achieved perpetual motion, induced by pure cringe.

[@dankato6380]

I just realised don lemon-las is a parody of legolas😅😅😅

[@DavidByrden1]

About the Diverse Elves at 1:40: The writers think it's an injustice if the various regions of the world are not all "represented" in this English tale. But I think it's an injustice that they're filming an English tale and ignoring the legends of the rest of the world. Like, they're waltzing into Japan which is up to its ears in ancient literature, and they're saying "Watch this Western story, we put an Asian guy in it" Now, you could reply to me "Nothing's wrong with that, everybody can enjoy a good story regardless of racial background....." ....which is true.... ...but you just made a case for NOT inserting the Asian guy.

[@farfaraway4285]

I so agree with this. Fake diversity. Instead of looking at legends from the countries they’re trying to represent. I bet some African legends would be wild. Same with Chinese, Japanese, such rich history.

[@anon2752]

Well it mostly come down to the thought of "this is too wh1te, it must be diversified" the fact that its low effort pandering to non-wh1te people is lost on them. They think its great that theyre "fixing" the problem of things being too wh1te.

[@blowfish1702]

That's all "diversity" is though. It's always been about diluting Western history/culture/achievements. Amazon, Hollywood etc could make tale about African or Asian history with a fully realistic cast for the setting today if they WANTED to...but they don't 😂 It's all BS. They could atleast respect setting that Tolkien created and have asians etc represented by the men of the east and explain it in show...but that would take effort.

[@DavidByrden1]

@@farfaraway4285 Yes, that's the hypocrisy. "You NEED to see actors of your own race, but you DON'T need stories written by your own race."

[@rh906]

No one would dare to make nth movie about the Battle of Red Cliffs with African and Europeans in the military. Despite them being vastly stronger than the Chinese soldiers.

[@jaycagey]

My. bet is Evil Wizard is the witch-king of Angmar and Galadriel will make the prophecy that no man can kill him... PS - the Drinker's realization of the implications of "the Gand" was so heartfelt!

[@jkdbuck7670]

Glorfindel did. But yes they'll give that to Guyladriel.

[@suziechapstick8236]

My bet is that he's one of the blue wizards who immediately went evil for some reason and Gandalf will have to defeat him... in a shot for shot copy of his battle with Saruman in Fellowship, of course.

[@TWIXTIMA0]

I just love the fact that Space Ice is here too .

[@chronocommander007]

Where he shows the world...

[@beto-zc3ui]

Rob shnigder

[@nurgle333]

Anyways...

[@liden77]

Makes me happier than a Belgian Guy in a Thailand bar

[@donweatherwax9318]

Oof ​@@liden77

[@mstrainjr]

The makers of the Rings of Power: " Look how culturally diverse our characters are! See how we're not racist? Praise us for having such a diverse cast!" Also the makers of the Rings of Power: makes the black elf the first to die, like in every horror story.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

"Canadian Bacon" made a funny scene about the black guy dies first.

[@MajorSmurf]

Honestly I think this is important but there are amazing fantasies out there. If you need a palette cleanser, go watch Frieren. Honestly it's a spiritual successor to one of Tolkien's huge themes about immortality. I promise you that watching only the first four ep's will fill with you so much hope that there are creators who exist that care. Madhouse were mad lads when they animated this show, it's gorgeously made.

[@EvilDoresh]

Frieren or Delicious in Dungeon. Fantasy anime seem to be on a roll atm after the dark age of isekai harem nonsense

[@MajorSmurf]

@@EvilDoresh Well even the poorest Isekai runs rings around ROP... I wish that was a joke. Although next season Re;Zero is back baby. Fantasy is alive, just not here in the west.

[@olafgurke4699]

@@MajorSmurf Re:Zero is coming back? Hell yeah!

[@akira_kei_]

Agreed, great show. It also answers the question of how to tell a story in the Fourth Age, after the great battle is already over. Tolkien ended up abandoning his attempts to write for Middle Earth after Sauron was defeated because he felt that nothing could live up to LOTR. Frieren feels like it's picking up where Tolkien left off, but in its own way.

[@mohitrawat5225]

Some funny comments I have found on other videos - 1. Anya Taylor Joy looks more elf than every elf in The Rings of Power. 2. The actress who played Galadriel once described her character as older than moon. Someone commented "older than moon, but still act like spoiled teenager". 3. Peter Jackson hired actual elves to play elves. Amazon hired orcs to play elves and writers of the show. 4. Amazon is orcwashing the elves.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

Why are you still hating on the Orcs? Haven't they been shown to be peace loving people who only want to stay home and care for their families. Sad, sad, sad.

[@hackbertgrutzkotz7653]

Stephen Seagal should play the wheelchair Elf in Rings of Power. At this point the only way to save this show is turning it fully into a Meme.

[@docsavage8640]

That would be watchable compared to what they make

[@hackbertgrutzkotz7653]

@@docsavage8640 And they could decanonise the whole series, because it was just a parody.xD

[@docsavage8640]

@hackbertgrutzkotz7653 this isn't a parody? I thought it was based on National Lampoon's Bored of the Rings

[@hackbertgrutzkotz7653]

@@docsavage8640 Fair point. I'm just happy that i never watched a second of RoP. I love the original LotR movie trilogie so much, and i love the Novel. As soon as the first Hobbit Movie came to cinema, i was very dissapointed, and didn't watched the sequels in cinema. I don't know if we will ever get good Tolkien content again.

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

The Elven Redshirt away team has beamed down captain Elrond.

[@Power_Prawnstar]

Riker wouldn't have let these lot on his away team, oh wait, red shirts, off ya go 😂

[@juvytabraham2]

First thing that shocked me immediately was why are the elves not riding horses, and instead walking hundreds of miles? Recall that Galadriel chased Elrond from Eregion to Linden on horses and messengers also rode horses. Just ridiculous. Any ideas?

[@EvilDoresh]

Because the Felllowship walked I guess. Gotta make people remember the superior movies.

[@serberus5233]

show didn't have the budget for horses.

[@leerussell8499]

Non of these actors are talented so normally they would have some characters that actually ride horse's and use stunt double for the rest but your budget for coke in Hollywood is hugely appreciated by those that we're from the Amazon production team and whoever green lit a second season they don't care about what our reaction to the slop because they're coked out to new highs

[@jaypeadieL611]

They have the power of "scene cut" which speeds up the amount of travelling into mere seconds even if they have to walk.

[@TheVisitors44]

@@EvilDoresh😂

[@Power_Prawnstar]

Part of Tolkiens genius is the ability to leave things vague without ruining his world, it actually improves the world. Like the men of the west, or gandalphs exact magical powers. It leaves us to discover and speculate.

[@Mahtijanis]

And this is what so many fantasy authors miss. Tolkien created a mythology and mythologies are seldom absolutely consistent or otherwise clear on every detail. In the case of Tolkien this evokes a feeling of something real, of long lost knowledge, of myths long gone from memory - which was of course his exact intention.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

@@Mahtijanis Above all the online crap, I still admire those people who can make me think of a book or a writer in a way I never have before, and I first read LotR starting in 1967. Thanks.

[@sharose182]

Tom is a imaginary character that the professor made up for his daughter as a bed time story. And he totally trolled every body by adding him to the best story ever created.

[@MaryRohwer]

It's not entirely true that Tom Bombadil didn't care anything about the outside world. At Frodo's time he was living as a recluse with Goldberry, but he was aware of the people of the world. He knew that the Men of Westernesse had made the knives the hobbits took from the barrows, he knew that the Rangers descended from these men and protected folks though they were unaware of it, and he remembered the woman who originally owned the brooch he was going to give Goldberry.

[@almitrahopkins1873]

Tom Bombadil is the embodiment of the impartiality of nature. Nothing made by the elves matters to him, because it can’t affect him. Even Peter Jackson left him out of the films because he represents the most depressing and uplifting message in all of the Lord of the Rings, which is no matter what you do, nature will eventually reclaim everything. You meet him in the books in the barrows where a long-dead empire buried their dead. The barrow-wights cannot bother him because he is the very nature that destroys the barrows and erases them from living memory. To put it in a context that is easier to understand and more current, think of global warming. Leaving it unchecked will destroy human civilization as you know it, but it won’t end all life on the Earth. Algal blooms survive rather well and even thrive under the conditions that could kill people off entirely in a few hundred years. Tom Bombadil is like that, a merry dance of life that erases and forgets all things eventually. Nothing you can do affects him, so nothing you can do bothers him. Your concerns are not his concerns, so that is why the One Ring couldn’t be left to his guardianship. He would simply set it down somewhere and forget about it, even as the Nazgûl arrive to reclaim it. The Nazgûl do not bother him either, because in time, they will fade away to nothing as well. Tom Bombadil is the personification of the knowledge attained by a man who fought in a war. It’s the nihilism of knowing that nothing you have done or can do will affect time. He is like the flowers growing over a battlefield where the bodies of the dead were left to rot. If you know the origin of the character, you know that it was one of his children’s toys that he wove into the stories he told to them. As they grew up, they abandoned their toys, but in the stories, they still persist. Tom Bombadil was the origin of everything Tolkien wrote, so he had to be included as the eldest in the Lord of the Rings as well. Tom Bombadil is like Puck’s address to the audience at the end of Midsummer Night’s Dream. He reminds you that it is all a fiction. None of it is real except the lessons you take away from it, so don’t be bothered by it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tolkien included old Tom as a subtle jab at CS Lewis, who likely didn’t catch it. I studied theology, so that may flavor my take on it. Tolkien based the Lord of the Rings on the Kalevala, so I’m likely not wrong in my interpretation. As far as the Rings of Power including Tom Bombadil, it is painfully obvious that the writers didn’t comprehend the source material. Old Tom is the specter of death, but he is the friendly death, not the scary death. He is the inevitable that you shouldn’t fear, because he is an old friend who will welcome you warmly, rather than the Grim Reaper, who will hunt you down, callously and coldly. He is the mischievous death, rather than the malicious death, drawing on the folklore of the shidhe. I hate it when modern writers take the name of beloved and revered characters because they are popular and then ignore everything written before. Hopefully this suffers the same fate as the Acolyte.

[@Mahtijanis]

An interesting take, never thought about Tom from quite that angle.

[@almitrahopkins1873]

@@Mahtijanis I never did either, until I came back from war. That was when I started viewing things from odd angles like this.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

Interesting take, though the idea that unchecked GW will destroy human civilisation is not based on any actual science but rather on media scaremongering. And as you point out, Nature has feedback loops that restore the status quo.

[@holycameltoe124]

Tom is the ultimate stoic. nothing outside of his realm can harm him, he decides what affects him etc

[@jkdbuck7670]

He is certainly aloof. Very interesting character. And now they get to ruin him

[@suziechapstick8236]

Tom is a classic hippie, just singing, laughing, and getting high in the woods with his hot stoner gf. He doesn't need to be anything more than that.

[@awesomehpt8938]

SauRRRRRon -Galadriel

[@chasehedges6775]

😂

[@chasehedges6775]

Sauron rolling down a mountainside as a pile of blob

[@Sphoonx]

so inspirational I'm going to enroll my daughter into STEM

[@rajababu42010]

SOUPppppron

[@jaypeadieL611]

Galaaaaaaaaadrrrriel

[@1dantown]

Space Ice is the Jean-Claude van Damme of sarcasm .

[@juliabogan8509]

I died laughing when I saw the Stories living in the middle of a desert... They live by rivers in the books!

[@alexvesper7820]

Tom Bombadil was the protagonist of stories Tolkein would tell his children for bedtime. Using him like this feels like grave robbing.

[@suziechapstick8236]

Yeah even in the books he had almost zero impact on the story at all. Seemed like his section only served to help the hobbits have a little adventure of their own before the main plot got started, and set up the westernesse daggers that would eventually help Merry defeat the witch king. Which is why he's always been cut out of adaptations, he's just a singing weirdo in the forest who really doesn't do much.

[@Mazzy774i]

1000s of years of life minutes to stay alive

[@trev9168]

Sarah Connor, ripley And ewyen are the only times these big films have done the “girl boss” thing correctly. Sarah Connor in my opinion being the clear best example of how to write a character

[@MaryRohwer]

I liked Ultraviolet and Electra.

[@reek4062]

No. Eowyn’s confrontation with the Witch-King is mishandled. It’s a lot better in the book.

[@hulkfan97]

Seline from Underworld

[@newjerseydamo]

Princess Leia.

[@Power_Prawnstar]

Serenity was good with the female warrior

[@NoOneGetzOutAlive]

Tom Bombadil is like an aloof force of nature that cannot be used or tamed or manipulated or coerced.

[@Tevildo]

2:15 I was going to comment that the costumes look like they're from one of the less-ambitious episodes of TOS, but you beat me to it. 😺

[@walkertexasdruid]

Luv Disparu's tortured episode reviews!

[@reg4211]

100%

[@kevinhale628]

Ever since rings of power, im looking at hobbit like its a 10

[@chasehedges6775]

The Hobbit movies were never bad, tbh. They were decent/watchable

[@bwhere45]

@@chasehedges6775 I'd argue they were. They took a short book and did everything they could to bleed the IP dry (even going so far as trying to get Viggo Mortensen to be in it). Compared to the LoTR trilogy, The Hobbit movies might as well be fanfiction.

[@Mahtijanis]

@@bwhere45agreed. The Hobbit films had only a couple of powerful scenes and all of those were just scenes reminding us of the beauty of the LotR trilogy (e.g. seeing Rivendell again etc).

[@aleksander8497]

The dark wizard is probably the witch king before he was turned

[@AteshSeruhn]

You're probably right. He is kind of ruling over Feminem et al 🤦‍♂️

[@RyuShinkuuHadoken]

I did not expected to see the legend himself Space Ice, never I have binged watch so many videos in a day from a single youtuber.🎉

[@89technical]

Come on, we all know why she got captured: they want Sauron to save her so she has to admit he's not a bad guy, then get her back absolutely blow out so they can have a half good, half evil child because ThE sHoW iS nUaNcEd lol

[@e.c.winner7252]

No, no babies. Just sweaty bump bump time without any consequences. This is for leftists after all.

[@Fre3linx]

It makes me smile to see Space Ice here

[@Veritas.Studios.Channel]

Mauler..that wasn't a "giant slug/snail/snake thing" that ate our heroes. That was a fragment of Sauron that was sliced off by the wagon wheel, and sought a simple life of independent freedom!!! BLACK PUDDINGS LIVES MATTER!

[@LucyferSkyles]

Dude! In I love space ice! So effing cool!❤❤❤

The scene of Galadriel's fight made me feel bad for all the times I've made fun of the Stormtroopers' aim.

[@mattwells5022]

Space ice 😂 Awesome 👍👏

[@meglukes]

In LOTR, Tom Bombadil is the Edenic Adam. He was not born naturally, he does not age or suffer illness, he lives with a lovely woman in a garden over which he has total dominion and expresses no desire to leave and feels no angst about what is going on outside his little area.

[@IG88AAA]

Space ice is on here? Thats badass.

[@shaindaman13]

This is the podcast where he showed the wooorld that many shows suck ass

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

"One wig to deceive them all." "That is not how the rings work." -Tolkien's Galadriel could wipe out 500 orcs with a swap of her hand due to her being a most powerful elf mage. -Amazon's Guyladriel can't even give Númenóreans a lesson in swordplay or combat. Amazon really knows how to make a complete ass of itself.

[@reek4062]

That’s not how magic works in Tolkien’s world.

[@Mahtijanis]

Power doesn’t work in this way in Tolkien’s works, it’s not your typical fantasy setting where power levels are fixed and the heroes are capable of super hero feats and killing hundreds of foes on their own. Galadriel truly was powerful but she couldn’t have fought 500 orcs alone, rather her power was of the kind that those orcs wouldn’t have -dared- lay their hands on her (though I’d say she would probably have been murdered anyway). Power and magic are very subtle and secretive forces in this world. You should compare it to other mythologies and it’ll make more sense: Zeus’s adventures among humans, Odín being imprisoned by a regular guy somewhere, etc.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

@@Mahtijanis Actually Galadriel in Tolkien's world is that powerful. But her true power lies in her cunning especially when it comes to politics. But her magical power is that high for she is one of the most powerful mages in Tolkien's world and it was so terrifying that no orc or even Sauron for a time wouldn't dare cross her.

[@Mahtijanis]

@@JustTooDamnHonestno. There is no such example anywhere in Tolkiens works. Not one hero depicted as single handedly slaying 500 orcs, and even less so with magic. Mithrandir did no such thing, Galadriel did no such thing, no one did such thing. Even when Fingolfin strode to meet Morgoth in one to one combat the orcs fled before him - he didn’t slay them and I don’t think anyone’s even suggesting that he could’ve.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

@@Mahtijanis I have you ever heard of the term figure of speech? THAT IS WHAT I MEANT SINCE THE FIRST COMMENT!!!! I already knew that there was no mention of it in the books and there doesn't have to be for the fear alone is sometimes enough for evil to think twice before facing Galadriel. But her magical power is mentioned more then once in several books and it seems to tell us that her affinity for magic is very high considering who trained her in it. Plus I never mentioned Fingolfin and you just proved my point in terms of the fear alone of one single being for he didn't slay them and yet they were afraid of him and Gandalf, Galadriel and even Fingolfin are that feared by several factions that you it makes you wonder that maybe that they are that powerful and yet they do not need to show due to them running for their lives at the mere sight of them. Remember Gandalf feared the Balrog and those thing are called the Maiar of Fire and Gandalf barely defeated one and he came back more powerful then ever before.

[@GenikaXVI]

Space Ice collab 😍😍😍

[@frankvandorp2059]

One of the dumb things about this episode is that Galadriel travels through the exact location where Tom Bombadil is SUPPOSED to live, so if they really wanted to include him, they could have done so without breaking the lore, having to change his entire character and have him travel to distant lands all of a sudden. Galadriel could have met him at the exact same location the hobbits did.

[@FanksCast]

I wish critical drinker had a video essay format like mauler/platoon. Be so dope hearing that awesome voice for an hour while i do other shit. Not asking for it to be 5 hours or anything but like even 30-40 minutes. Probs a selfish request on my part tbh.

[@docsavage8640]

You can't spell Middle-earth without D E I

[@phillipnoetzel7637]

Space Ice showing up. The quality here has instantly skyrocketed.

[@troyblack9626]

Good work on that Morgan show dude

[@kendra_t]

How dare they think they can even be in the presence of Tom

[@docsavage8640]

DEI = deliberate exclusion of intelligence

[@Power_Prawnstar]

Isn't isildor like 7"5', even in his teenage years, he'd be a massive unit.

[@fancyhat6505]

Oh sweet I didn't know space ice was part of this crew now 👍

[@fifi-trixibell1888]

And the idea of Isildur mingling with lesser men 🤮

[@acook91ful]

Space ice!! This is a mega blockbuster hit movie.

[@rickthelearner5631]

Two decades have passed since I first read LOTR and delved deep into its mythology. What is embedded in my mind is Elves are fair-skinned, grey-eyed, majestically tall for most of their kin, with long locks of hair. I didn't get that from the movies; it's there in the appendices. So it's hard for me to accept this Amazon vandalisation.

[@dinfulofsin8525]

i think of the Galadriel in the hobbit where she single handily wipes out the nine and sends sauron across a continent. now think of the whiny baby in ROP.

[@stubronstein9932]

They are demanding socialised medical care, the National Elf Service 😮

[@mireadur]

Peter jackson elves really had an aura about them, while these dudes feel just like that, dudes in cheap customes.

[@Zephyr503]

The E-Team, starring Mr El and Howling Mad Maladriel.

[@CapybaraConnoisseur89]

Holy shit Space Ice is here! I love his videos and Steven Seagull movie reviews

[@CarlosCFC92]

Just look at that divine work of art (Space Ice's Mullet)

[@austrociking4345]

Credit where credit is due, Disparu referenced Johnny Law for pointing out the “Gand” connection.

[@jadebishop7968]

Yeeeeessssss space ice finally ❤❤❤

[@Zzues]

I must have shaken my head in sadness 20 times during this last episode. I don't think I can give ROP any more views. I'll just have to watch you poor streamers critic it from now on.

[@chasehedges6775]

I checked out after the first few minutes of the first episode of S1. Haven't looked back since and its one best decisions I've ever made. 😊😂

[@chasehedges6775]

The PJ films are still 🔥

[@jesterssketchbook]

@@chasehedges6775 yeh i couldn't last long - the very first scene (the paper-ship part) made me cringe about 20 times alone - i skipped forwards to see if it got better and heard the elves dialogue later-on - nope..... not for me lol (edit) - i'm a HUGE tolkien fan btw

[@chasehedges6775]

@@jesterssketchbook💯AWESOME

[@olafgurke4699]

@@jesterssketchbook That's exactly why the show isn't for you. They are writing the story Tolkien never could, after all.

[@EmmanuelNLT]

Space Ice Chllin'! Good for him, he has officially made it 😂

[@GM-db4bv]

Only thing i'm happy about RoP is that it's so bad, there's no way to confuse it with the real Tolkien. This will be wiped out of memory within 10 years.

[@GeoffreyFischbein]

He's dangerous like someone having a good acid trip

[@chasehedges6775]

“He’s too dangerous to be kept alive.” - Mace Windu, probably

[@awesomehpt8938]

In the books Galadriel repels multiple armies of orcs that attack Lorien and absolutely destroys the fortress of Dol Guldur with the power of her ring. In this show she can’t even handle a few evil ghosts or a few orcs. 👎

[@goodputin4324]

Not multiple armies. She did not destroy Dol Guldur with her ring but it got taken down together with the help of Thranduil's elves.

[@reek4062]

She destroyed Dol Guldur after the One was destroyed and her ring lost its power.

[@GideonRavenor712]

Which is odd, right? They go out of their way to drive home and have Galadriel justify using or relying on Nenya even though she KNOWS Sauron wanted them to make it alongside the other two Elven Rings. Now, the Elven Rings have not been specifically stated as to what powers they give, but considering that Elves are already immortal it makes no sense for them to act like the Rings of Men, also because Sauron didn't make them himself directly meaning they are the least corrupting. They would have to give some kind of major power to justify the Elves even being interested in them. And we do know the Elven bearers did use their rings in different ways, so long as Sauron was not wearing The One. What better way to showcase why they would be so interested in keeping their Rings than to actually demonstrate the power they can give to their individual bearers? Not like this show has wasted many opportunities to girl-boss her anyway.

[@sturdzenaru]

Holy shit, Space Ice joined the boys!! There's order in this universe!

[@bry_guy72495]

If Sauron was killed right after Morgoth's defeat and spent a bunch of time as goo, when did he find the time to kill Galadriel's brother? Ya know, her entire reason for wanting to find and destroy Sauron that was established in the first season? Like, how long was he Halbrand for then? So confusing..

[@christophersmith8316]

Bro was killed before things got so bad in the War vs Morgoth that the Valar had to intervene and save the world, and sink a good chunk of the continent.

[@carlosx1237]

Hell yeah, Space Ice is here.

[@Banedraven]

That’s not the omnipotent Tom bombadil who just doesn’t care, its eldest sensei Tommy Bomba & once alf can use his gand…. He’s coming for justice for the ent wives. BELIEVE THAT!

[@Adoyleonon]

Yaaaas!! Yaaaaassss!!

[@Benj-p5w]

Space ice on the show great!!!!

[@Aksel_16]

I recommend reading The Adventures of Tom Bombadil poem. Here is a small part of the poem : Old Tom Bombadil was a merry fellow; bright blue his jacket was and his boots were yellow, green were his girdle and his breeches all of leather; he wore in his tall hat a swan-wing feather. He lived up under Hill, where the Withywindle ran from a grassy well down into the dingle. ************************************************* Old Tom in summertime walked about the meadows gathering the buttercups, running after shadows, tickling the bumblebees that buzzed among the flowers, sitting by the waterside for hours upon hours. ************************************************* There his beard dangled long down into the water: up came Goldberry, the River-woman’s daughter; pulled Tom’s hanging hair. In he went a-wallowing under the water-lilies, bubbling and a-swallowing. ************************************************* ‘Hey, Tom Bombadil! Whither are you going?’ said fair Goldberry. ‘Bubbles you are blowing, frightening the finny fish and the brown water-rat, startling the dabchicks, and drowning your feather-hat!’ ************************************************* ‘You bring it back again, there’s a pretty maiden!’ said Tom Bombadil. ‘I do not care for wading. Go down! Sleep again where the pools are shady far below willow-roots, little water-lady!’ ************************************************* Back to her mother’s house in the deepest hollow swam young Goldberry. But Tom, he would not follow; on knotted willow-roots he sat in sunny weather, drying his yellow boots and his draggled feather.

[@hisdudeness8328]

Killing the black elf first is about the only thing that happened in this episode that subverted my expectations.

[@JorgeSandiGutierrez]

Nobody wants representation in fantasy shows…

[@scottbullock3045]

SPACE ICE!!! So... that's what he looks like lol!😊😅❤

[@goodputin4324]

Why are there black Elves and Asian elves!!!!

[@chasehedges6775]

“WHY!? DON'T Know!”😂😂

[@docsavage8640]

Because Tolkien was creating British mythology and everyone knows ancient Brits were black Asians

[@pandemicwarfare4288]

And Indian elves! (The one that was standing next to Gil-Galad at one scene)

[@adventurefilmclub2549]

@@goodputin4324 maybe because not everyone is as racist as Tolkien was. And it's literally not 1940 anymore.

[@GM-db4bv]

​@@adventurefilmclub2549 i'll take that as sarcasm...

[@lkd9323]

There was a time TV Shows used to compete hard on how to out do other TV shows in terms of good wholesome entertainment content but Now it's like who can piss off the Viewers more !!!!!

[@chasehedges6775]

EXACTLY

[@chasehedges6775]

More about making bad writing and pandering to modern stuff than making a good product with good storytelling and characters

[@timbotron4000]

Gossip is like a shadowy wraith that weaves deceitful webs through the light of truth, darkening the hearts of those who once walked in trust and harmony.

[@davidbeddoe6670]

Black elves just look like Tuvok.

[@Dark_Snider]

Reminds me of Star Trek Vulcans.. Exactly!

[@Gorbz]

It was Johnny Law who spotted the hobbits saying not-gandalf needs to find his "gand", and that the word does not exist in Tolkienien language, and Disparu credited Johnny on his following video.

[@ayya8817]

as a kinda Tolkien nerd, this show is so off lore-wise also. don't know how much average viewers know, but the Istari (wizards) are not even supposed to be in middle earth at the period. Theyycamee inaboute 1000 years ago, where they are now. so the whole thing is kinda of off, and supposedly the stranger is "Gandalf" arriving in a comment???. and now there is an evil wizard?! I think there is no way they make it Saruman don't think they are even allowed to do that legally. but it could be the two blue wizards. little of them is known lore-wise only that they went to the east, at it might one of them be turned evil, but this is not confirmed. they have to go this way, even though the strangler says a lot of Gandalf quotes. they use random book quotes everywhere on the show.

[@BartAllen]

*Well technically the Blue Wizards were sent by Manwe to Rhun and Harad a little over 2,000 years before Gandalf, Radagast and Saruman are sent to the West of Endor -- though technically all 5 of the Istari are sent to Rhun during the First Age ~*

[@reek4062]

I believe in some of Tolkien’s later writings the Blue Wizards arrived in Middle-Earth in the Second Age. If the stranger is one of them, he would be too similar to Gandalf though.

[@petriew2018]

@@reek4062 no, in none of Tolkien's writing did that happen. The Wizards were sent to Middle Earth in response to Sauron's re-emergence after he was thought dead in the drowning of Numenor at the end of the second age. He never waved on that point. Why you believe such laughable nonsense is beyond me, maybe you should try reading Tolkien instead of reading opinions of tolkien from people who have never read him either.

[@ayya8817]

think the blue wizards came in 1600 of the S.A after the creation of the one, as a response from the Valar. but where little is known about them, that's my whole point kinda. surely they don't just make it gandalf and saruman just because they are big names in the Main movies....(even tho they did it with the Hobbits for some reason) when you can add two new characters like the blue wizards. but they don't mention it, so idk how much lore they know not to even mention it. but the show sucks so who cares

[@BartAllen]

@@reek4062 *Yes, in HoME he also reveals that they spent time in Harad, too ~ They arrive in Endor when Glorfindel is sent back by Manwe ~ Technically, by the means of how the Istari clad themselves in the West according to Tolkien, the Blue Wizards would either be of swarthy/dark/sallow/black skin ~*

[@banistersmind]

I'm glad I'm not invested in these intellectual properties like many. The visceral anger I would feel at the desecration of Tolkien's legacy would be f¥€£ing epic...

[@picklerick.n.666]

These poor woke people need JESUS ASAP ❤❤❤ respect form Croatia-Europe ❤❤❤

[@cmcapps1963]

Tom Bombadil is like happy friendly Cthulhu. His ways are entirely beyond our petty concerns.

[@kurts4867]

these elves look ridiculous... Celebrimbor looks like a middle aged accountant...

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

Travesty how they’ve not even tried to replicate the wispy feline beauty of the elves of popular culture. Don Lemon-las is just as miscast as Celebrimbor.

[@tomj2303]

"Wheelchair bound Elf" is crazy 😅

[@frizzlefry5904]

burt ward and adam west are in the next episode.