The Rise And Double Downfall Of G4TV.

[@solidsadd]

Back in 6th grade I would get home just in time for X-play then AOTS. Different times

[@Dontae_777]

@@solidsadd same brotha same

[@hcook1023]

Same here I would get off the bus and get home just as it was starting

[@nathanrodriguez914nr]

Frosk was just the worst. "The Rant" was just the final nail in the coffin. People didn't hate her because she was "ugly" or a woman. They hated her because she clearly didnt know what she was talking about. Morgan Webb came off as a gamer. Her opinion held weight and she was respected. Frosk didn't know who Reggie Fils-Aime was. Even in the part of her rant when she said "im reading the same script Adam does", it was clear she didnt know what she was talking about. Adam may be reading the same script, but Adam was also a gamer with a legacy of being a true gaming journalist. (he clearly lost his mind and was revealed to not be a great person, but thats beside the point) The argument of "women arent here to be your eye candy" is true, but also not true. Olivia Munn was eye candy, and she wasnt the best source of knowledge when it came to gaming. However, she wasnt the host of a gaming show. She was the host of a variety show where it was her job to be attractive and funny. When Frosk did that rant, she lunped everyone who didn't like her into one group and said "you're all sexist and misogynists". Some of them are, but not everyone. Some people just want the host of a gaming show to be a real gamer, with real gamer knowledge. I didn't find Blair Butler attractive, personally. However, I appreciated her take on comic books, because she seemed like an actual reader of comics.

[@ivansusak1367]

You hit the nail on the head buddy!!!

[@kylemendoza8860]

Sure Morgan Webb is pretty and a gamer. But most of all. She comes off as a cool person. Like she seems like she would be cool just to hang out with. I don't know what she's really like. Maybe she's a total B in real life. But that's how she presented herself.

[@TheSnakehunter]

Frosk was probably a loser in high school and she just had to act like a twat on tv. I doubt she ever really watched G4 growing up.

[@danielwilson4270]

THIS WOMAN DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO REGGIE FILS-AIME WAS??!!!

[@ChillyReaper]

I didn't know that G4TV came back, and while I didn't watch it a whole lot back in the day, I was excited to see something familiar returning. And then the first thing I hear about them was Frosk with her "sexism in gaming" rant, and I knew right then and there it would not last more than a year. Also bringing Amouranth onboard in a desperate attempt to win the fans, ironically made it worse because Frosks rant and the tweets defending her were still up at the time, which made them look like hypocrites.

[@notthegreatestdetective]

same i didn't really know about the revival until it was already over or how bad the drama was

[@hcook1023]

@@ChillyReaper I had no idea it was rebooted, hell I had only just discovered the Friday Night Tights and the Critical Drinker crew

[@johnsabilla5897]

Man, what a great channel. I used to watch G4 while doing my homework as a kid. I learned about Comicon from seeing it in AOTS.

[@kevincarpette3507]

Such a shame with what happened to G4. I was looking forward to the revival, now its gone. A relic in the past

[@BMCBroManClash]

G4 was one of the best channels I have watched back then and that was how I learned about video game history and new games in general. Commercial problems for the first end while politics/personal identities really destroyed them. At least there are KZbin channels that do it better. :)

[@grimmes1159]

Adam turned into just the worst person you would ever want to be around

[@StagehandMotel6]

That is why I stopped watching him

[@grimmes1159]

@@StagehandMotel6 watching him have meltdowns on Twitter was really sad to see. But the things he said made him so unlikeable.

[@Flint_Ironstag]

@@grimmes1159looking at it now, he really is just one of those guys who tried to come across as chill but has this deep seated bitterness that social media is great at drawing out

[@grimmes1159]

@@Flint_Ironstag also weather you are a supporter of his or not, trump made some people lose their minds

[@notthegreatestdetective]

i honestly had no idea about any of it i stopped watching in the late 2000's and never came back to it, only hearing things here and there after their attempted revival but had no idea how bad it actually was until watching this video

[@noobnoob2121]

I feel like the reboot could've worked if it were smaller and more focused less live streams and more on games

[@d8l835]

And never hired that psychopath

[@maybeaspider3456]

the reboot was full of corporate woke trash and not funny video game content

[@tdestroyer4780]

@@maybeaspider3456 A lot of what made the original g4 funny would now be called "hate" from the new people who ran it. What else is there left to be funny about. W0ke people have too much rules and just look like tyrants instead of freedom living hippies.

[@gabeguzman9478]

M​@@maybeaspider3456They ruin everything when games are about escaping real world problems and having fun. You put this on fun things it's going to be ruined. There is a time and a place for it!

[@ricsim78]

In what planet? Gamers want to be entertained, learn about games. No one wants to be ranted at by a woke weirdo with a nose ring and told what to like and how to feel. "Froskurin" is no gamer, and lecturing gaming edge lords is a sure fire way to sink any show. There is not one show that should lecture anyone about anything.

[@Jangmo88]

Really sad that this wasn’t the happy reunion we all hoped it would be

[@Keoniiii]

Still have a crush on Olivia since ATOS

[@Boba_fehtt]

“If you don’t like it then don’t watch it.. bye” Gamers: *Did she just give us a side quest?*

[@Adrenachrome_Gumdrops]

Thank you for this great breakdown. I had no idea G4tv came back and I’m glad I didn’t watch it no doubt it has left a sour taste in peoples mouth. They have needlessly tarnished their name. I have very fond memories of watching AOTS, Xplay and everything on midnight spank when I was In grade school. Simpler times

[@jtw79]

Gaming, nerd, and internet culture was distinctly different then. A lot of these shows were a product of their time and were good relative to the expectations at the time. Now there is so much to stream or watch or listen to that it's like fighting an uphill battle to stay relevant as a show. An era is gone and what has replaced it has arguably lost a lot of authenticity and charm.

[@Iceykitsune]

The problem was that G4 was part of Comcast's "digital cable" service, which was an extra fee on top of regular cable. Having to pay more on top of the regular cable bill is what doomed it.

[@kev5384]

I think G4 ahould of just been relegated to KZbin. Everyone already reviews things on youtube. But considering the market is so oversaturated now i doubt it would survive anyway

[@CBRN-Fan-Boy]

I was so excited when G4 came back, it was like getting a part of my childhood back…. Unfortunately it was just the image of G4 and not actually G4, they murdered it right in front of me.

[@b.m.tbusinessmindedtalk4199]

Awwww my BET... This is what i needed in the afternoon

[@rjdiggs738]

My favorite ordeal from this whole disaster was when Adam Sessler would have his meltdowns soon after the shutdown on Twitter lmao. He was even accused of being racist towards Japanese ppl at one point from his older segments.

[@allencristobal6336]

I was excited for the return. Kevin came back! I was hoping they would pair him with someone that could keep up with him. After a couple of weeks they completely changed the format of AOTS and it turned it into a talk show like The View. WTF G4?

[@Bingo_the_Pug]

I was rooting for G4 to be successful again. Frosk’s rant didn’t even offend me, but when she afterwards posted that “I SURVIVED” meme after a dozen of her coworkers got fired, even I said “why the hell would you do that. I can’t defend you anymore”

[@jescis0]

I actually miss XPlay and Attack Of The Show… but I miss a lot of shows that I saw when I was growing up through the years!! 🤔🤔

[@kevinriley17]

I had no idea G4 even relaunched in 2020. It’s a shame i didn’t know about it because I would have eaten up their content, I have fond memories of coming home from school to watch AOTS at 4pm. Really unfortunate timing, 2020 was an especially sensitive year for identity-politics. I wish it came out this year, at least the main cultural zeitgeist was less CoronaTrump and more BarbieErastour. Maybe I’m just being optimistic -dammit I wish AOTS and X-play were KZbin Channels.

[@AVEXentSUCKS]

Frosk and Sessler weren’t solely to blame. The viewership before Frosk’s meltdown was already low. WWE stars that showed up cost more money than they were raking in from viewers. The studio they were renting was really expensive to furnish and the network president was never in the office. The content was mediocre at best, KZbinrs can produce better content for a fraction of the cost. Pretty much Comcast saw the books and stopped this train wreck from hemorrhaging more money than it was doing. I believe this whole project was spearheaded by a son of a high ranking Comcast executive who saw how much work it takes to run a network then decided to back out of it.

[@taejasper1343]

Yeah, her woke meltdown over not being f*ckable enough to men compared to Olivia Munn and Morgan Webb was what not what brought the channel down first, but it was just a symptom of it!

[@taejasper1343]

And also, the content wasn't all mediocre trash, they acquired the rights to show and air Scott the Woz's show on their channel to try and get people to watch! Even though they could already watch his videos on the guy's channel on KZbin, but I don't see how this was that beneficial other than promotion for Scott and maybe to get people to subscribe to his channel I guess? I don't know! Attack of the Show's revival and X-Play's revival were good at first, but then they started to review games that were already out ages ago, like from the '90s and early '00s, including stuff that they had already reviewed before! This is crazy, man! I don't get it, bro!

[@HVVVVVVVV]

@@taejasper1343yeah, exactly. It would have made more sense if they had created original episodes rather than just re airing episodes that we could just watch on KZbin. Plus, we could watch KZbin on the TV already, so it was more pointless. It felt more like a novelty than anything.

[@DemonicRemption]

They had one job:"Create content around video games. All they needed was men and WOMEN who knew what they were talking about." I'm willing to bet you there are several female gamers out there who know a thing or two about gaming while looking as average as Frosk does who would've loved to have been in her spot. But they chose Frosk probably because they knew she'd do what she did. What they didn't count on was it tanking the viewership.

[@alyxgraff9121]

Wild coming back to this retrospective after what happened to The Completionist, the former host of XPlay. Moreso now that RoosterTeeth is dead. This channel truly was a "trial & error network".

[@Osarogie112258]

I'm one of the few people in minority that that G4 should have stayed dead. And it's primarily because the competition expanded significantly.

[@StagehandMotel6]

Yeah the market evolved to where Its not needed

[@plawson8577]

@@StagehandMotel6G4 should just stay the Hell in the 2000s.

[@tdestroyer4780]

They didn't take advantage of KZbin in the beginning. That was their first failure. They quite literally should be one of the top gaming channels on here.

[@leathersosoft2798]

Morgan Webb was my childhood crush lmao

[@Jiterdomer]

Since G4 died twice, I wonder where are all the old tapes of old G4 original shows such as Player$, Arena, and Cory Rouse Cheat.

[@rickkroll]

Clear audio and a vid about G4 count me in. Thats all i need lol. Subbed

[@paularized1]

Nobody could have scripted a better follow up to Frosk’s sexism rant than hiring Amouranth to jiggle a Shake Weight. Statement made.

[@Senguedreams]

Yeah, like...honestly that was....just....maximum cringe. As a gamer and a male...not...something I really wanted to watch on a show dedicated to gaming, game news, interviews...it laterally became trash youtube/tv at that point.

[@davidsean290]

This was all edited, comprehensive and addressed a lot of the G4 situation. Don't know how this doesn't have more views.

[@StagehandMotel6]

Definitely tell your friends

[@Venom3254]

Aside from X Play. Cinematic, Judgement day, Cheat (both versions) and Icons were my go to programs that I watched after-school.

[@HotSizzleTV_]

This show was the shizznit during my high school days.

[@マシュードーラン]

Show? It was an entire channel

[@Monstrider]

Could it be possible to bring back Olivia munn to do skits with other girls like the good ol days? Lesbionic Woman especially.

[@JamesHathaway54]

I used to watch G4 24-7...X-Play, Judgment Day, Cinematech, Blister, Cheat, Portal...and everything else on there! I hated the Tech TV merge cause we ended up with Cops, Cheaters and Ninja Warrior on repeat non-stop. I remember G4 the very first day it premiered and glad i lived threw it💯

[@nicolesherman8974]

I never knew there was a network for…. Gamers??? Hmmm. Interesting concept I guess.

[@ScottieDo]

It was great in its prime

[@Trekapedia]

Shouldn’t have gone for cable when it returned. It should have tried to go onto streaming. That was a big part of the failure. I loved how when Frosk was yapping in the video, at 7:04, you hear “oh brother, this guy STINKS!” My friends and I will sometimes play that sound in our shows and we all crack up when it plays.

[@HYDRAdude]

G4 was best when it was a paid subscription service. It's funny that so many people's fondest memories of G4TV involves X-play when that was a show from the TechTV era (also a great channel). Once G4 merged with TechTV and broadened their scope from gaming to technology as a whole (and then later, to teenagers as a whole) the channel took a big nose dive in quality. The revival failed because they failed to bring back the original shows that made G4 so great in the first place; Portal, Judgment Day, Arena, Filter, Icons, Pulse, the cool bumpers in between ads, etc.

[@JonLa89]

Back in the early 2000s. G4 was a free channel with our service of basic cable. We only lost it when the programming tiers changed and Expanded Digital Cable was introduced and G4 being channel 73 of our service got cut from Basic and no longer reachable unless we want to pay an extra $100 to watch the newer channels we all we paid was $40 a month. I'm missed the old days before G4 when there ZDtv and then Tech TV.

[@plawson8577]

@@JonLa89ZDTV and TechTV was WHY G4 was able to stay afloat.

[@scotthintze5901]

I started watching G4 back in the early 2000's. I was hooked. Yes it was originally called Tech TV back in the day. It also showed some anime. I love watching Attack of the Show, X-Play, Cheat, Monkey Spank, etc. I also like the live showing of E3, Tokyo Game Show, Ninja Warrior, Cinematech, SDCC etc. Yes, ratings are to blame. I enjoy watching shows like this, but when it was cancelled, I couldn't find any other network that deals w/video games. Yes to much competition with other shows both TV and online is to blame. I really wish it would come back.

[@ScottieDo]

Linus before Linus

[@マシュードーラン]

G4 was amazing and I always tuned in while it was starting out back in the early 2000’s and before it started playing irrelevant nonsense. When it was just the individual gaming shows with Diane, Kevin, Morgan (never liked Adam), etc. Ahhh what a time to be alive…I was just a teenager

[@mikehunt4986]

Are there any shows on TV or streaming platforms that are targeted at men anymore, the way some of the shows on G4 were? Seems like everything nowadays is targeted at both genders or at women - but nothing specifically at men.

[@nicksullivan4994]

I Never Really watched G4 When I was younger, but I do Love The G4TechTV Logo!❤️📺🎶👍🏻

[@ilan_profile]

The only good thing about G4 was that I could watch Scott The Woz on tv lol

[@PersianGamer36]

Kevin and Olivia carried the entire show for me. They would have so much fun it was contagious

[@kklassact3449]

I really wanted the revival to work but its just a grasp at nostalgia. I knew something was up when they reviewed Kingdom Hearts 3 and gave it a 1...........out of 5

[@jackbarnicle9191]

2024 the return of G4 by me but without inappropriate content

[@CultClassicCage]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@StagehandMotel6]

Thank you!

[@stpworld]

I have a recording of Nintendo’s last e3 to air on g4 on cable ever then it all went streaming the next year.

[@StagehandMotel6]

Can you show me

[@Nikephorus]

That rant by Frosk was so cringe.

[@catinashoe]

Frosk destroys everything she ever touched. Crazy hire.

[@icookie115]

5:49 is the reason it failed twice. 1 wtf is that talking 2 NEVER go woke 3 Like McDonald’s French fries you changed the recipe. So, the community left. Idk what this era we live in is on, but 10 billion shows telling men how we just keep sucking isn’t going to have longevity. Changing main characters race, gender, or sexual orientation isn’t going to work either. Stop pandering to an audience that doesn’t even know you exist and start being faithful to the fans in these nerdy spaces, mostly men, that help you rise to the top.

[@hcook1023]

Imagine that at launch G4 on a paid subscriber network for a niche audience had more views and many shows get now on large atreaming platforms

[@JeffKraschinski1969]

After they absorbed TechTV and had people like Kevin hosting who by his own admission wasn’t remotely a techie the writing was on the wall

[@hitkid2456]

That move was definitely a historic fail.

[@notthegreatestdetective]

i really liked G4 back in the day, i grew up watching extended play, later named X-play and shows like Filter and Cheat! (or maybe cheatcoedes can't remember its name) which weren't mentioned here, its was shameful how it all went down

[@DLAbaoaqu]

Good riddance. Sessler was a poser in 2005 and he remains a poser in 2024.

[@AlphaCrucis]

Dang, I didn't even hear about the revival until today, being away from the video game space for a while. G4 deserved to fail the second time after hiring their own Zoe Quinn.

[@chilicheesepanda1089]

"A gaming channel is too narrow for audiences" wow that quote aged really well

[@Vorance]

I loved G4 growing up, this was a nice video. But I cringed every time you said Kevin's last name lol

[@gregperez5748]

The summer of 2002 was peak for I was going into my freshman year in high school and I remember they would do this non stop countdown of the best video games of all time and run it like a marathon it was so awesome.

[@davidantone4593]

Frosk 😂 I wonder what she thinks to this day knowing she single handedly robbed herself of a steady generously paying job. Forcing an agenda down someone throat doesn’t work anywhere

[@jyag730]

So everything related to G4tv is completely dead. I seen some Discord servers and Reddit thread they seem to be active. Or anything related to it is dead and no longer active.

[@ekoyal_gemu4446]

Objectifying frost? Couldn’t be me

[@supremebuffalo6322]

I'm struggling to understand something here, help me out - So after one of their employees went on a long, chastising rant toward the audience about sexism toward women in the "gaming space", and tried to draw parallels between how she does exactly the same job as her male counterparts but gets more criticism because she's a woman - - after all that, to try and boost numbers, they invited Amouranth on the show to masturbate a shakeweight!? Was the original ranting girl aware of this? how her company betrayed her moral code for numbers?

[@StagehandMotel6]

Well they were losing people left and right and people would troll them afterwards on it. I was there

[@iron1349]

I remember watching a ton of this network with my brother back in the late '00s

[@levivandijk7139]

I used to get home from grade school watch attack of the show and the double feature of the office 😢

[@HVVVVVVVV]

I think one of the main reasons as to why G4 failed twice was because they weren’t able to adapt and therefore, people moved on from them. To be honest, I don’t see the point in them returning when there are already more successful alternatives to them. That and also I don’t see the point in them coming be to television when most people don’t even watch it anymore, which probably did not help either.

[@Alej_915]

what was that show with Vic and that other white boy that reviewed games? God I used to love those guys, one dude would always bitch about invisible walls in games lol. AHHHHHH the 00's were fun

[@fusscoopland9680]

I believed it was called Judgement Day which later became Reviews on the Run. Victor Lucas originally hosted the show along with Tommy Tallirico. Once Tommy Tallirico got busy with Video Games Live though Victor Lucas got numerous co-hosts each time to cover for Tommy Tallirico until Scott Jones permanently replaced him afterwards. I do not believe Reviews on the run exists anymore, since Victor Lucas has only focus to continue Electric Playground.

[@Alej_915]

@@fusscoopland9680 yes! Thank you, that has been driving me kinda nuts for years

[@plawson8577]

It was called Judgment Day and was a Ratings Disaster. It was cancelled after 9 episodes.

[@krtvstudios]

All they had to do was stick to what made them that one shitty choice ruined everything. That channel pioneered everything

[@hcook1023]

At least I have Friday Night Tights now and Open Bar. I dont have nearly as much free ti e as I did back then so i can play these across a whole week

[@mentallyaktive916]

The Craziest Thing Is That The New Host Was Being More Judgemental Towards Him/HerSelf .

[@thend4427]

I saw techtv when i was 14 then i saw them merge...i loved attack of the show..it helped olivia munn get into movies at least

[@callamastia]

she treated that job like her twitter but forgot the most important aspect that it was a business needing customers to exist.

[@xPixelboix]

Honestly When i Grew up watching it All i watched was G4 Skits and Xplay Cheat Attack of the Show and ninja warrior and any movies that popped up to it afterwards which most of the time it was startrek. Then Left after they shut down and went to youtube. G4 shouldve have just stuck to our nostalgia of G4 but have lil improvements sadly they did not do this and only in the reunion anniversary video for thanksgiving where the original cast came back everything after that kinda went downhill after that.

[@sonic1135]

I used to watch x play judgement day atos and such because it was helped me refine my gaming choices

[@Noobsaibot21]

I still say the original gamesmaster run in the 90's (particularly the later series') was the very best of gaming television

[@Jrocc811]

TDS Sessler and Frosk. Only took two disgruntled people to murder any hopes of a comeback.

[@jooooooooi]

Great video. I’m old. I was there from the very beginning haha

[@hcook1023]

G4 could have been easily brought back if they did it right with a more realistic expectation, they didn't Llok at shows like FNT

[@halfb8bel]

This channel was the only reason I watched e3

[@yoreid6797]

ah i remember watching this as a kid when my family got digital cable

[@bradyanderson6311]

It never got Video Game Awards specials.

[@ripshade]

Its really a shame. The AoTS revival was 3ntertaining and i actually liked the direction it was heading with kevin leaving the show. Xplay was awful. It was an overbloated set for a show that didnt have a space in modern times (with many online reviewers, user reviews, ect) i didnt have a need for their opinions. Adam at sime point in his life decided to be unsufferable and hateful. Frosk was just a terrible host from day 1. I think there could have been a space in the content sphere for AoTS, and the will and austin projects. I also think content was better before they got rid of ovilee.

[@timtoongamer]

Seemed like after the reboot it had a shot of nostalgia but then it quickly fizzled after that. Plus with with KZbin and Twitch being great resources and cable tv as a whole on the decline the reboot didnt make any sense. Maybe if anything start a KZbin channel of uploads of old episodes 🤔

[@BolofromAvlis]

The new G4 was just so out of touch and all over the place with their messaging. they were making content catering to young boys, then you'd have Frost go on telling those young boys " how dare you for acting like young boys!. If you don't like us don't watch". Aaand they didn't. But at the same time they were acting all liberal and feminist, they would have videos featuring sexy girls in bikinis doing sexy things. It was ridiculous.

[@plawson8577]

Exactly. They were an Embarrassment with Frost.

[@Yajeeb]

Wait, so that entire innuendo bit with amoranth was AFTER the whole frosk rant?? 😂😂🤣😂 Wow. They green lit her go on a virtue signalling woke rant and STILL did the opposite💀

[@Dontae_777]

G4 my childhood from (2005-2012 when i stopped watching)

[@mlort923]

No mention of Sarah underwood , fail on your part !

[@thatguymatt5816]

Attack of the show was hosted by Kevin and two others for a long time before Olivia Munn got there. The show arguably got waaay worse with her on it

[@jakeeub2938]

If they weren't going to bring back all the old hosts and shows they never should have brought it back. Imo g4 and tech tv were at their best when they were separate. Loved the shows on each of them back in the early 2000s. No one cared about or were interested in these new hosts. Especially when they seemed to talk more about their political beliefs than games

[@cryptic6917]

i watched G4 religiously when i was a kid

[@andrewbarker8631]

They should have slowly added nerd demographics over time. Anime, manga, tabletop gaming and better branding

[@thend4427]

I loved midnight spank the shows were fun as a teen watching..anime unleased helped me find out about obscure anime and ed the sock was so dirty i loved it lol

[@elijahwheeler952]

RIP. G4TV raised me

[@hcook1023]

Seriously if G4 had added anime i stead of Cops and Cheaters they could have lasted a lot longer

[@hcook1023]

2:44 I had no idea Tesla was that old

[@stevenchan3822]

All those people who clapped on to Frosk’s rant deserved to lose their jobs.

[@mikehunt4986]

5:48 Add G4 to the "go woke, go broke" grave.

[@mangaloveranix8412]

There were Japanese anime properties based on American comic book franchises like X-Men, Iron-Man, and Blade as well as Wolverine and Avengers Confidental Black Widow to Punisher or so in the opposite way around by Madhouse in Japan over the Marvel license. I love the Madhouse adaptation of the X-Men frantically, it goes with the button of the workplace shirt, not the bottom of the barrel.👍 Greatly frantic anime series. It is a 8.9/10, a B+ to be concise. It could be have more episodes to be fillers, but eh, who cares? I can take it.

[@pferreira1983]

In the UK we had a better show: GamesMaster.

[@healingv1sion]

Techtv was better 😎

[@hitkid2456]

For sure! So much was lost after the merger. It was such a shame.