The Rise And Fall Of CM Punk In AEW

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@MrBeardsley
@MrBeardsley 9 ай бұрын
Brian Zane covered Punk’s AEW run on Wrestling With Wregret a couple months back, I still can’t fully wrap my head around all of this happening in the span of two years. And the fact it ends with “then hell froze over and he went back to WWE” just makes it more insane.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
BZ bring up a good point of "Tony Khan get your shit right and get these 4 men together so we can make some money".
@venomousnate7263
@venomousnate7263 9 ай бұрын
@@attiepollard7847yup. Very good insight from Brian.
@TheRealAhoy
@TheRealAhoy 9 ай бұрын
Punk used aew to get heat back into him because he wanted to go back to wwe one day but he didn't want to go back like a nostalgia act so he decided to flare things up about him again so he'd go back to wwe as a hot commodity. Good career management!
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
@@TheRealAhoy heat or not Tony should a man man enough and just told the guy is either stop it with this bull crap or else I'm about to fire the four men that were involved in brawl out
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 9 ай бұрын
BZ is " sick of punk news , sick of punk drama " dude it's your job to cover it you a wrestling KZbinr get over it
@rileywritts
@rileywritts 9 ай бұрын
IMO: CM Punk working in an unstructured environment like AEW probably made him appreciate WWE more. Plus Triple H being head of creative and Vince being out definitely made him more open to coming back. I still think low-key Cody Rhodes saw this coming from a mile away and decided to jump ship early.
@toxicpositivity9341
@toxicpositivity9341 7 ай бұрын
He definitely did. And now that people see that HHH treats competitors that come to WWE better than Vince ever treated people that came from TNA for example, I think we see more big names jump ship.
@jessebunnell6442
@jessebunnell6442 2 ай бұрын
100% agree
@jessebunnell6442
@jessebunnell6442 2 ай бұрын
@@toxicpositivity9341 Looks like Ricky Starks who would be perfect in WWE and the Lucha Bro's. This is only the beginning.
@venomousnate7263
@venomousnate7263 9 ай бұрын
Even with everything that happened with Punk in AEW, you wish it had a better outcome. But things just got out of control and led to a backstage fight, firings, and suspensions. And now hell froze over. Though I will say the Punk/MJF feud was amazing, probably my favorite feud in AEW.
@cliffordjackson3
@cliffordjackson3 9 ай бұрын
FACTS.
@nineteenct
@nineteenct 9 ай бұрын
I’m not even memeing, every single one of those Ace Steel pictures looks like he’s about to bite someone
@OJTheBLAK
@OJTheBLAK 9 ай бұрын
It was an interesting 2 years, shit like this doesn’t happen in 10 let alone 2. What a whirlwind
@rory4605
@rory4605 9 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking! I pretty much stopped watching wrestling in 2018 and have just returned, missed the whole CM Punk in AEW saga, it's crazy to see he somehow packed such a rich and nuanced odyssey into a 2-year span. I guess if I were watching it unfold in real time, it'd feel a lot slower.
@OJTheBLAK
@OJTheBLAK 9 ай бұрын
@@rory4605 Yea, I came back and started watching Collision like a month before Punk got canned by Khan. Good that he’s active and back in WWE but to stop paying attention around the time he left wrestling to come back and see/hear more drama was crazy
@Wisdomcucco
@Wisdomcucco 8 ай бұрын
😊​@@rory4605
@qaqishadi
@qaqishadi 9 ай бұрын
This is a phenomenally made and detailed recap and analysis. So well done. 👏👏👏 “Tweet if you dare. Survive if I let you.”
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 9 ай бұрын
Regardless of what fence you're on, NOBODY was blameless in this situation, everyone was at fault Page: Paige going off script and that "Not taking advise" comment; Pouring the gas Punk: burying the roster on that scrum and airing out his dirty laundry in front of the world instead just talking things out with everyone; Sparking the flame The Bucks: For confronting Punk the way they did especially as Excutives & Straight up refusing to even speak with him afterwards: Setting the fire Tony Khan: For not stopping punk at the scrum and Allowing all this to happen Instead of putting it out before this became a shitshow: Pouring more gas on the Fire
@JouvaMoufette
@JouvaMoufette 9 ай бұрын
Not so much pouring more gas, but more watching a gas can fall onto its side and pouring more gas, and doing nothing about it. But yeah there's plenty of folks who are guilty here.
@PresidentClambake
@PresidentClambake 9 ай бұрын
This take is hideous, if you were treated like that at your JOB because oh yeah, it's a JOB, you'd be pissed off too. Go be dumb somewhere else.
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 9 ай бұрын
​@@PresidentClambakeIf I was pissed off at how I was treated at my job, i would still try be Rational about things. What did punk do? Throw people under buses, whine like a bitch & Assault his coworkers. Go try that at your job & see if your still keep employment
@IceAndCola
@IceAndCola 9 ай бұрын
Punk is a cancer. Hangman didn’t do anything.
@mayson9817
@mayson9817 9 ай бұрын
More like Tony Khan just watching the fire and not putting it out.
@john-michaeljardin6396
@john-michaeljardin6396 9 ай бұрын
I think in all honesty TK didnt have the big enough personality to manage stars like the Elite and Punk. Vince had both HBK and Bret Hart in the 90s and he had the big enough personality to set them straight and put business first. I don't think C VM ever invited any stars to a meeting, I'm sure he made sure they knew who was in charge and it was business first TK pussy footed around and didn't have the balls to remind everyone they're under contract to him, he gave them too much power. That's why Punk in WWE works... They are a massive company and not a single star is bigger than the company and that's where AEW will fail themselves by giving to much power to the wrestlers (not saying they should have none) but remember if you work for someone you work for them, whether you like your colleagues is not the company's problem it's your own
@Rucker1980
@Rucker1980 9 ай бұрын
This this could also be titled how Tony Khan booked a great WrestleMania 40
@Unitenotfight
@Unitenotfight 9 ай бұрын
The Bobby Fish thing is ridiculous. Fish absolutely tried to get Punk riled up with that one. His excuse was, and I quote, “He thanked me during the pin, so I thought he was calling an audible”. That’s the saddest excuse I may have ever heard. Wrestlers thank each other all the time like that, some find it disrespectful if you don’t. None of them, except maybe Hogan, took it upon themselves to make their opponents finish look weak. And even if he’s telling the truth and it really happened that way, then he is more inexperienced and unprofessional than he should be at that level. However, I’m certain he just did it to try to get a rise out of Punk. I’m not trying to come off as a Punk mark, cause I honestly didn’t watch any of him while in WWE, though I’ll admit he’s caught my attention in the past few years. And I’d say that Punk definitely has his issues and seemingly a short temper. But, it does seem that many in AEW tried very hard to push his buttons and try to get him to lash out. Guess they got what they wanted, and now more eyes are looking at their already far ahead competition.
@ThailandDantotherescue
@ThailandDantotherescue 9 ай бұрын
You dont need to defend your opinion. Bobby Fish fancies himself a tough guy and tried to get cute and then play dumb. We all know he was playing f#%k around.
@spacepanda1975
@spacepanda1975 7 ай бұрын
if you rewatch the bobby fish match, punk hits the gts then sells his limb for some time before making the eventual crawl to fish. it was a delayed pin and so fish was right to get his shoulders up immediately after the third count. he was part of the undisputed elite at the time and a midcarder; it wouldve been odd to let him continue playing unconscious like a jobber after having a competitive match
@Unitenotfight
@Unitenotfight 7 ай бұрын
@@spacepanda1975 Fish? Is that you??? You can say that, but the fact is, Fish gave his reasoning. It’s exactly what I said, and nothing of what you said.
@spacepanda1975
@spacepanda1975 7 ай бұрын
@@Unitenotfight how does that invalidate what I stated? lol
@Angieeee93
@Angieeee93 9 ай бұрын
Ah, yes. The rise and fall of Jack the Jobber’s favorite wrestler.
@_Pauper_
@_Pauper_ 9 ай бұрын
Aka Jack’s Heel Run
@MikeEdwards-kj4dh
@MikeEdwards-kj4dh 9 ай бұрын
Back to your mother's basement troll
@cliffordjackson3
@cliffordjackson3 9 ай бұрын
FACTS.
@talonthehand
@talonthehand 9 ай бұрын
Becky Lynch?
@TFSRogue-oq8vp
@TFSRogue-oq8vp 9 ай бұрын
He should've been everybody's favorite wrestler but not everybody is a fully functioning adult...
@mattmckinnie737
@mattmckinnie737 9 ай бұрын
Damn Ross hell of a job narrating here dude! You should get on one that has real idk, gravitas to you. You and Sam both have a solid narrator voice in these docs. Keep it up guys!
@Sevenduece
@Sevenduece 9 ай бұрын
If only Jobber Jack had gone to that Italian resturant none of this would have happened. I personally blame him and maybe the laptop
@MikeEdwards-kj4dh
@MikeEdwards-kj4dh 9 ай бұрын
Loser troll
@S0m0neRand0m
@S0m0neRand0m 9 ай бұрын
Punk didn't nicks the spot... Punk was asked by producers that had told Perry not to do the glass spot, to not do the glass spot
@kellijones6481
@kellijones6481 9 ай бұрын
If that’s the case, the producers should have grown a set and told Perry himself that he can’t do the spot, rather than having Punk tell him. Apparently Punk said something along the lines of “we don’t do that shit here, go do it on the 'B-show'” or whatever he said, which rubbed Perry the wrong way. It’s no secret that Punk has an abrasive personality and come off as being condescending even when he’s not trying to be. In any event, maybe Punk was trying to get terminated but if not, I don’t understand why he would pick that hill to die on. Why not just go up to Perry and say “hey I don’t think it’s a good idea to use real glass, you can get really hurt” (maybe bring up Goldberg severing an artery back in WCW), and then suggest using sugar glass, because as long as it shatters, most people don’t know the difference anyway. And if he still wants to do it, let him do it and then Perry’s dumbass can pay the consequences with the producers or whoever.
@vb2806
@vb2806 9 ай бұрын
​@@kellijones6481the fact is if the so called evps are not able to maintain a professional attitude, you can't expect talent to do that.
@kellijones6481
@kellijones6481 9 ай бұрын
@@vb2806 I always wanted AEW to succeed but from the beginning, I always thought that having active wrestlers hold EVP positions was not a good idea
@S0m0neRand0m
@S0m0neRand0m 9 ай бұрын
@@kellijones6481 I don't remember exactly how many, but there were several producers that told Perry not to do it before asking Punk to say something. About the way he told Perry there were no reports 😅 I do think that - by the All in show - Punk might've had enough of the BS and indeed saw his chance to get terminated 🤷🏻
@greghughes6098
@greghughes6098 9 ай бұрын
Facts don't matter, there's a video to be made
@troublenyc4092
@troublenyc4092 9 ай бұрын
Awesome post lads! You guys always put out quality videos, so I’m not surprised 👍🏻 Hope 2024 brings even more success to the CULTAHOLIC family. Cheers!
@TheThird1977
@TheThird1977 9 ай бұрын
Another excellent documentary from Cultaholic on a Sunday night. You guys are on a major roll of fantastic documentary content.
@joeywrestling9536
@joeywrestling9536 9 ай бұрын
Although subtle, I think one of the main things to note is that most people (whether they’d like to admit it or not) thrive in environments that at least have a modicum of structure.
@SharifKridane
@SharifKridane 9 ай бұрын
Always love these kind of videos! Excellent work as usual lads!
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 9 ай бұрын
They’re great
@Mainlineuk
@Mainlineuk 9 ай бұрын
This was a phenomenal watch. Outstanding work lads ❤
@SignoftheMagi
@SignoftheMagi 9 ай бұрын
Ultimately, this story highlights all the problems AEW has had since Day One. Bad management, egos out of control, dangerous working conditions, wrestlers going into business for themselves. Page, Perry and the Bucks are the worst examples.
@vb2806
@vb2806 9 ай бұрын
​@@urbaindelva7869well Cody left aew out of nowhere, so it doesn't seem like some problems already weren't there to begin with. Plus you can see the difference in thinking between Cody and the other 3.
@Cosmic_Gorilla
@Cosmic_Gorilla 8 ай бұрын
Man, Punk defenders are a delusional bunch.
@caryslan5890
@caryslan5890 7 ай бұрын
The greatest legacy of Punk's AEW career is that it ended so badly, it drove Punk back to the WWE.
@MissElaineDumont
@MissElaineDumont 9 ай бұрын
This already started, when Punk came to AEW. The atmosphere was hostile and against him from the very start very much so because of Cabana and some people's misplaced sympathies to him. Page's promo proved that. And the fact that neither the "EVP's" nor Tony Khan did much to clear the air before it kept boiling is just terrible management. Punks call to them to "come to his locker room" was a stupid thing to do but it was even dumber to go there when things were obviously that heated. What did they expect? A cool, calm and collected sitdown with some tea where everything would be settled? Talk about "Violence in the Workplace"? How about actually fulfilling the role you're being put in responsibly. Would you call that responsible? I think Punks reaction to everything that happened, to the hostile atmosphere that others had created was just perfectly understandable. And the fact that he pushed for certain people to stay away from Collision was equally understandable. Because after how things went prior, that's simply the best thing anybody could do. But as Jungle Boy had proven: There are always idiots who just cannot help themselves but piss others off for no reason. The fact that he still isn't fired would be beyond me but then again a certain somebody probably just wanted a reason to dissolve a contract he couldn't afford paying out. In Wrestling stranger things have happened I'd say. And AEW or Tony Khan aren't immune from Vince-Like Behavior. Collision today has become the same old boring crap that AEW has done on repeat now for years and there are still often times news about issues coming out about that Promotion Backstage. They are just bound to be the new WCW in many regards. Problem is that "The Clique" and Hogan are still there. Because unlike some Fangirls might think, Punk wasn't that. Sadly it's not much of a surprise, that this "sum up" of events ignores the very facts it uses in its very conclusion to paint the perfect picture of their favorite new toy.
@GrindHouseBlues83
@GrindHouseBlues83 9 ай бұрын
The recent spate of documentaries has been absolutely killer.
@andysalem3955
@andysalem3955 9 ай бұрын
And yet the Young Bucks still talk about him
@Keepitpush99
@Keepitpush99 9 ай бұрын
They are pathetic. If they didn't what else would they do
@31ensar
@31ensar 9 ай бұрын
This video has actually put me firmly into the camp of being on Punks side
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 8 ай бұрын
naive
@31ensar
@31ensar 8 ай бұрын
@@mihaimercenarul7467 go jack it to one piece ya weeb
@sebastianb.3978
@sebastianb.3978 8 ай бұрын
​@@mihaimercenarul7467Not as naive as siding with proofable backstage bellends who can't seem to drop the thing because it's all that gets them any attention these days. Just admit you like the Elite because they donthe funny flips and move on.
@brianharley6452
@brianharley6452 9 ай бұрын
Punk saying go headline night 4 of buy one get 5 free is so real right now 😂😂
@MrBeardsley
@MrBeardsley 9 ай бұрын
I’ve never noticed how much Ace Steel looks like Tim Robinson. They’re both from the upper Midwest and Tim is at least familiar with wrestling (he’s pals with Brody King), so I wonder if they’re cousins or something.
@Mike-zx6sl
@Mike-zx6sl 9 ай бұрын
46:07 so that "Peg Warmer" crack was half accurate but doesn't really have anything to do with Hangman directly. For whatever reason, the series with Hangman in it that came out that year was Hangman in a cowboy shirt and jeans. Nobody wanted that, the other figures of Hangman in ring gear sold better than most other figures for AEW. Hell, even now there's still Nyla Rose, Stu Grayson and Walmart exclusive Wardlow figures at stores all over the place LONG after the cowboy shirt Hangman figures have been sold. Now with months and months of hindsight and putting my "Punk is toxic" bias aside, I only hold Punk about 25% responsible for this drama. 74% of this is Tony himself, 1% Jack Perry. Tony wants to be friends with the boys first, a Booker second. He could've shut this stupidity down IMMEDIATELY but no, he had to capitulate to Punk and his buddies because he wants to avoid addressing the problem rather than telling them to deal with it and put the business first. Tony is a MUCH bigger part of the problem than Punk is.
@kittypryde571
@kittypryde571 9 ай бұрын
It's disappointing that things didn't work out in AEW, I was super excited for what he could do there. The good thing is, it opened the door for him coming back to WWE and hopefully he can keep his head on his shoulders and make it a good run.
@josephedrictiamson
@josephedrictiamson 9 ай бұрын
This is hilarious knowing that CM Punk might main event any night of Wrestlemania 40 and will go face to face on this episode of Raw against Cody Rhodes. Lol
@TheMrAlgoh
@TheMrAlgoh 9 ай бұрын
Let's look at the folks in AEW that Punk has a problem with, Jack Perry upstaged by Nemeth's debut, Hangman Page stuck in midcard hell, Kenny Omega bedridden and possibly career ending injury, Young Bucks flopping hard actual ratings cancer getting mild reactions, where in the blue hell is Colt Cabana?! don't get me started with the "ayatolah of nondisclosia!" While the manchild TK just can't keep his mouth shut on twitter, it's safe to say all the folks that got on the nerves of CM Punk are going nowhere in wrestling while Punk is among the top merch sellers in WWE, still over with the crowd, second highest social media record at 105 million! and is going to main event Wrestlemania. CM PUNK wins while they blow. Just facts.
@Alexwhatisit
@Alexwhatisit 9 ай бұрын
@@TheMrAlgohholy shit kid(you’re likely middle aged) get off the internet for a little bit. You’re bought into every little IWC bullshit story.
@vb2806
@vb2806 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheMrAlgohI like bucks' situation the most. No one gives a flying f**k for them
@BigMike_HD
@BigMike_HD 9 ай бұрын
Man, punk in AEW should have been a slam dunk. This whole situation was done wrong on both sides. It does seem both are ready to move on and so am i
@JShadow6661
@JShadow6661 9 ай бұрын
Really let down. His ego was his undoing. Yes both sides are to blame but should’ve just swallowed their pride and shake hands and work for the better.
@jacksonloram7887
@jacksonloram7887 6 ай бұрын
@@JShadow6661 Punk's ego? He isn't a saint but Hangman went off script, the Bucks spread all those rumours and then refused to talk things out. The Bucks have legit go away heat, I have no idea why they're so popular.
@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849
@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 2 ай бұрын
I brought AEW All Out 2021 only to see CM Punk. I enjoyed AEW at the time but if CM Punk wasn't there I wasn't buying it.
@Nbflowers1989
@Nbflowers1989 9 ай бұрын
Punk detractors say: look at the common denomination, Punk is the problem. Buck detractors say: AEW's back office is full of immature people who don't know how to run a business. The middle camp: A severe clash of personalities backstage bled into the product and ruined a good thing.
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 9 ай бұрын
but let's keep it real it was the elites ego and power that got in the way all because of cm punks former friend Colt!
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
@ShinSuperSaiyajin 9 ай бұрын
I’m definitely in the middle camp here as, in my opinion, nobody were blameless in this situation
@cliff402ful
@cliff402ful 9 ай бұрын
He really is injury prone. Like damn
@getrected5095
@getrected5095 9 ай бұрын
Sounded like aew was an extremely toxic workplace for punk like seriously how are you gonna say cry me a river and then start running when he confronts you
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
Who's to blame for that? Tony Khan for not being a real boss and tell everyone together or else.
@jamesroche8785
@jamesroche8785 9 ай бұрын
A workplace gets toxic when you behave in a way that makes most of your colleagues hate you, yes.
@mrkennady
@mrkennady 9 ай бұрын
​@@jamesroche8785right? The bucks are a locker room problem everywhere they go. Youd think people would catch on to their BS by now.
@cttommy73
@cttommy73 8 ай бұрын
I am in no way a Punk fan. Think he is extremely whiny, but it does have to be stated that AEW has had to be ran so terribly, CM Punk only lasted 2 years there.
@Camore892
@Camore892 9 ай бұрын
I admire punk’s style of wrestling. However, over the years there’s been a consistent pattern of people saying the same thing which consist of punk playing a hand in getting them fired or punk being a complete a**hole that goes on temper tantrums. Not everyone is the problem here hence why ryback called him “ pragile phil” nevertheless I hope he can have a less problematic WWE run.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the fact that so many of his peers have problems with him in the locker room isn't exactly a good sign. There's a difference between begin honest and antagonizing people.
@calebbonds4632
@calebbonds4632 7 ай бұрын
Nobody has handled this very well, u can blame punk, u can blame the elite, and u can MOST DEFINITELY blame Tony Kahn. But at the end of the day, this should’ve been handled so punk could stay and bring in more viewership and make more money for the company.
@jshipp5469
@jshipp5469 9 ай бұрын
The longer time has gone on from that all out event the more I realize the elite are really childish. Regardless of what punk said the idea that they came into his locker room is insane. Then that victory lap which clearly hasn’t worked out at the time of writing this. Edit: so I love cultaholic but this is a first time I’ve seen a bias in Ross when it comes to events. Literally not one incident has ever been truly happen with prior to going to aew. The locker room leader story is funny but that wasn’t hella drama. Everywhere the bucks have been there’s been a locker room issue with them in the middle of it. I’m more or less shocked to see the bucks specially painted in a positive light when they have a history of back stabbing and grandstanding as if their names were terry….
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 9 ай бұрын
facts!!!! thank you!!! cause elite along with hangman they was sticking up for the dummy colt! and bucks being close with Dave meltzer spreading fake news of course punk gets pissed! and having hangman going into business for himself was the icing in the cake
@buzznewman9962
@buzznewman9962 9 ай бұрын
100%
@Cosmic_Gorilla
@Cosmic_Gorilla 9 ай бұрын
CM Punk literally said in his post-All Out rant that anyone who had a problem with him should come and take it up with him in person. The Elite did exactly that, and Punk started throwing punches. Also, lmao at the idea that there was never any backstage drama surrounding Punk prior to his AEW debut. People who still continue to defend Punk are flat-out divorced from reality at this point.
@jshipp5469
@jshipp5469 9 ай бұрын
@@Cosmic_Gorilla first problem with your idea is punk implied a fight which is why it’s insane they went. Them is fighting words. 2nd I’m not defending him im pointing out the facts that you’ll never actually admit cuz you love the elite so much. You won’t admit that childish evp kids lost there biggest draw in company history
@sebastianb.3978
@sebastianb.3978 8 ай бұрын
​@@Cosmic_GorillaThe one reality refuses to do business with is you and your beloved Elite. Numbers and crowd reactions don't lie kid xD
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 9 ай бұрын
Cabana hasn't had a match in ROH since April 2023 lol
@joshuasavan4386
@joshuasavan4386 9 ай бұрын
Can you do the fall and rise of TNA cuz they’re fucking back baby
@TFSRogue-oq8vp
@TFSRogue-oq8vp 9 ай бұрын
38:09 "Around which point, Ace bit omega in the forearm"... because Omega had Steel in a sleeper hold.
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 9 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say, no matter what point of view one has about Pepsi Phil Brooks, they cannot hide them very well. I said in the aftermath of Brawl Out, Karma will expose who was in the right and who was in the wrong, in the regards to that incident, The Elite has never gotten the same reaction since Brawl Out, not saying Punk is fully innocent, violence while justifiable in terms of emotions, one cannot use them in an opening move in a place of work. I think it was good for Punk to go to AEW, even in Hindsight. Punk needed to see no matter how Ass Backwards creative can be, at least the CEO or the Head of Creative has control of his company. Also, was good for wrestlers to see AEW is no different than any other Pro Wrestling Company, no matter how well of wordsmith Cody Rhodes was in 2019, some companies are better for wrestlers than others. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠༼⁠ ⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠ ⁠༽⁠_⁠/⁠¯
@joee7452
@joee7452 9 ай бұрын
It TK was running a real company, all of them them on both side should have been fired. There is no justification for that kind of confrontation by exec's toward employees and there is no justification for a physical reaction. All involved should have been fired. If that happened in any other company, the owner would have terminated everyone involved. Wrestling is a strange business.
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 9 ай бұрын
​@@joee7452It has been said by many people within Pro Wrestling, that Sports Entertainment may be the only industry where unless someone is found guilty of Sexual Assault or Murder as long as they generate Cash, they will have employment. I find this to be garbage personally, they all should have been terminated, Adam Page as well. If I was the Booker in AEW, I would have asked "Did you clear that with me, I know you didn't, guess what, you and Punk are going to Main Event Dynamite next week and you are suspended for Ninety Days if you don't show up, it's sixty. It's obvious that The Elite were envious of Punk, he did in Four Months, what The Elite could not in 24 Months.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
​​@@WSK9002no nope. Suspend all men for 60 days while they're on suspension time you have a meeting with them separately and you tell them to get their acts together if they do not get their acts together I will put in their termination papers. All 4 men still generate cash because the fans want to see them. Also you're going to have to put the whole entire locker room on notice if they don't like what's going on at aew under the strict management of of Tony Khan (lmao yeah sure) then you can always leave AEW.
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 9 ай бұрын
​​@@attiepollard7847That last aspect is the most vital, from my viewpoint every boss one should be respectively intimidated by just so one doesn't act like a Nitwit in front of them. Such as Dixie Carter before him, no one is intimidated by him, that's why Jericho nooks his own angles and why his work in terms of creative has been mostly filth since being in AEW.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
@@WSK9002 you think his father needs to come down and send his own people to straighten his kid out because this doesn't make any damn sense.
@j0njn
@j0njn 9 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, I usually try to not focus on these things, but is there any chance you could clear up the audio a bit? I hardly ever stop a video because of issues like this, but there’s no way I’m getting through this, which is a shame, as I love your documentaries.
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 9 ай бұрын
25:17 It was Tony Khan's fault. He probably was going to not renew him thinking it would piss off Punk. If Punk did say don't resign him, it's still Tony's fault not dealing with the Adam Page bullshit
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 9 ай бұрын
If anyone still questions the legitimacy of The EVP titles, if I have the title and it is legit, why wouldn't I just ask Tony Khan: "Is the reason, you are not resigning Scott Colton because of Punk?" The way The Elite just showed their Envy, Punk did in Four Months, what The Elite could not in 24 Months. 🙄
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
EVP's or not this s*** is Tony's fault he should have taken control and giving all four men ultimatum either work with each other or else I'm firing all of you. God this guy makes me sick fear for the future of corporate America if he's the new generation of management.
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 9 ай бұрын
​@@attiepollard7847You're not wrong, definition of nepotism. I don't blame anyone wanting to work for Tony Khan, if he is that big of a Nitwit for paying certain people hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say certain talent works for you, that's on Tony Khan, not on Mercedes Mone for example. Let's face it, Punk correctly or incorrectly made more money and got more out of AEW than the other way around like Goldberg with WWE in recent years.
@The_Kazarian
@The_Kazarian 9 ай бұрын
As a factual rundown this was excellent. Just the weird inserts making it clear there's a side to be picked that takes one out of it
@circleancopan7748
@circleancopan7748 9 ай бұрын
Let's see Bryan Danielson's judgment on Chris Jericho and Kylie Rae's issue. He quickly torched Punk when he was found guilty, what will his reaction be in the Ocho or Le Wizard's issue.
@Hains22
@Hains22 9 ай бұрын
Who would have thought that Luke Perry having unprotected sex 26 years ago, would create one of the greatest power shifts in pro wrestling history 😂
@_Pauper_
@_Pauper_ 9 ай бұрын
Wait til he wins the G1 hahaha heads will explode
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
@ShinSuperSaiyajin 9 ай бұрын
@@_Pauper_Gedo, as he is now, might probably book that to happen LOLOLOL
@tomassantos8860
@tomassantos8860 9 ай бұрын
Good to see he is in a much better place now at least 🙏🏻
@joonermichael
@joonermichael 9 ай бұрын
Shout out DJ Whoo Kid and the Jim and Sam show!
@nicholasbozec2828
@nicholasbozec2828 5 ай бұрын
We need the rise and fall of Jim Crockett promotions/Mid Atlantic
@austintucker1586
@austintucker1586 9 ай бұрын
Cm punk aew run could of gone down as one of the greatest comebacks in wrestling history but now it Tarnished because of brawl out
@mjdf122
@mjdf122 9 ай бұрын
The rise and fall of CHIKARA
@_Pauper_
@_Pauper_ 9 ай бұрын
That would be great.
@cliffordjackson3
@cliffordjackson3 9 ай бұрын
I’m want that video I’m surprised nobody has made a video about the history of chikara after his death.
@spidymame
@spidymame 9 ай бұрын
Good video.... just with ace steel and the widows peak... it was actually Roderick Stong who made it when he was around 15, and who victoria stole it from, she had stated it in an interview with Chris Van Vliet
@HyperActive7
@HyperActive7 9 ай бұрын
This stuff Punk did seems petty next to what is happening in WWE these days with Vince who ironically put the behavioral clause in his contract.
@CaughtColdBoxing
@CaughtColdBoxing 9 ай бұрын
CM Punk is bigger than AEW
@MrMario-tc8sl
@MrMario-tc8sl 9 ай бұрын
I know it's been said a million times but this past 2 years really showed that 2014 Triple H was not wrong about how unbelievably childish punk is. A complete man child who throws a hissy fit every time he doesn't get his way.
@thejoshpresle
@thejoshpresle 9 ай бұрын
I like how everyone just glosses over how page physically shot on Punk in their scramble to demonize him.
@KingRioT1
@KingRioT1 8 ай бұрын
If AEW is still around 6 more years and Punk is still wrestling he'll go back to AEW 😂
@RA1218
@RA1218 9 ай бұрын
These docs are 🔥
@kevinzwicker96
@kevinzwicker96 9 ай бұрын
One thing I’ll always respect is Tony going out infront of the Chicago crowd addressing the situation knowing he would get boo’d that takes balls
@zachstolpa6521
@zachstolpa6521 9 ай бұрын
It’s the bare minimum, ehhh
@oscarx-ray3545
@oscarx-ray3545 9 ай бұрын
Your boos mean nothing! I've seen what makes you cheer!
@Keepitpush99
@Keepitpush99 9 ай бұрын
​@@oscarx-ray3545😂😂
@kristopherruiz7644
@kristopherruiz7644 6 ай бұрын
...Really looking forward to watching that Dog Collar match on Peacock before decades end
@gtrpromotions6821
@gtrpromotions6821 9 ай бұрын
What I've have gathered through the years with cm I've noticed something that's glaring. He can disrespect you, but you can't disrespect him. Now he's back with WWE so I feel this whole past 10 years were nothing than a whole work to get yourself over at the expense of everyone else.
@jamiebarnett8422
@jamiebarnett8422 9 ай бұрын
You can look at the situation from both points of view. The Elite were causing problems and stirring back stage and caused many of the problems or CM Punk was unprofessional and shouldn't have reacted like he did. In the end this falls in one person's lap and it's Tony's. He should have taken control of the situation and done something about this. He allowed the issues to fester and blow up. Unfortunately he's not a boss and this caused the situations
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
To tell you the truth the elite have a half excuse validated the other half is a bunch of ego. You going to try to give this man a 6-month probation for him to act right and then you're going to work with him? Bullshit. Tony Khan should have gave all four men an ultimatum either you work together or if I'm going to fire you and I'll deal with the consequences after that. People like Tony Khan represents this new generation of management who doesn't want to act like a hard boss and it's kind of sickening and it's going to bring down companies in the neo future
@TFSRogue-oq8vp
@TFSRogue-oq8vp 9 ай бұрын
I don't like how this is slanted towards the EVPs who were lying about the whole "6 months without incident" bulloks
@lordarchaon6
@lordarchaon6 9 ай бұрын
This video does a great job highlighting punk's hypocrisy throughout his AEW run but it left off one of the more obvious ones. His famous "the apology should be as loud as the disrespect" line. After collision he did a shoot on hangman's action figures not selling. This was recorded. His apology was sent to hangman through text. Can't even follow his own standards.
@RLuke103
@RLuke103 9 ай бұрын
And with that we get to the root of many people's problem with Punk. He's a hypocrite.
@badwolf6665
@badwolf6665 6 ай бұрын
This is well made but insanely slanted against punk, he certainly could have handled things differently, but so could the "EVPs" and most of all Tony Khan. "A dark cloud was lifted when he left" and also the ratings drastically dropped lol. Aew is a clown company with a few good talents, held down by inept booking and even more inept management. Barely addressed was the Adam Page promo going completely off script, completely unprofessional and no doubt to do with the young fucks. So glad he is back in wwe, such a great renaissance for them atm.
@sonicman2500
@sonicman2500 3 ай бұрын
And now months later, the security cameras caught the fight
@MrGarebear13
@MrGarebear13 9 ай бұрын
Cultaholic really trying to make Punk the bad guy, knew this channel was nonsense, calling Punk expendable and ignoring the nose dive AEW has taken without him is laughable. Let's also forget the boom Punk has brought with him to WWE. Guess this channel is just another group of Elite fanboys ignoring the facts that those counterfeit bucks couldn't draw a dime compared to punk and started this whole mess from a place of jealousy.
@platinumpagoda3079
@platinumpagoda3079 9 ай бұрын
I'm still mad we are never going to get that Punk/Britt Baker match.😅
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 9 ай бұрын
I would love to be a fly on that wall looking at this from the home of Shahid Khan and his people. If I'm Tony's father I'm asking him what is going on why is the ratings low why do you get wrestlers fighting each other and you're not taking advantage of this or in charge of this and why is that TV deal with wbd at risk of not happening. And I'm going to deliver my son a warning shot if nothing changes I'm taking this thing over or I'm shutting it down completely. Tony Khan is a weak ass boss..
@moopert86
@moopert86 9 ай бұрын
People went out of their way to anger a man who is well known not to take disrespect lightly. The Young Bucks kicked in his locker room door and promptly got their asses kicked. Then a jerkoff on the preshow pisses him off and he snaps and gets himself fired. Now? He's one of the top stars in the biggest wrestling company in the world. A company with proper management where people may not like each other, but the structure is there that you either work together and make money or just leave each other the hell alone.
@Cosmic_Gorilla
@Cosmic_Gorilla 8 ай бұрын
Riiight, it's everyone else's fault for not walking on eggshells around the temper-tantrum throwing manchild. Punk had no choice but to start throwing hands with anyone who looked at him funny.
@moopert86
@moopert86 8 ай бұрын
​@@Cosmic_GorillaWalk on eggshells? The bucks were whiny bitches and went out of their way to irritate him. And again, they went into his locker room and started a fight. Is Punk blameless? No, but I put a lot more blame on the idiot EVPs who aren't qualified to manage a Target. Or Page who went into business for himself on live tV.
@rishisaaptacha
@rishisaaptacha 4 ай бұрын
@@moopert86Punk threw the first punch. He lost all credibility when he did that. That is peak unprofessional behaviour and he deserved to be sacked.
@JustKandyMan1
@JustKandyMan1 9 ай бұрын
While i won't entirely blame Punk for the way everything went tits up, i feel his run in AEW gave us more of an insight into who Punk really is. I mean if your constantly involved in backstage feuds and drama even in different companies and in your own life at some point you got to realise your the problem. Not saying he was always like that but i think after his meteoric rise the diva in him came out, which as we've seen Tony is way out of his depth to manage instead choosing to be everyone's friend and not their boss.
@alpacagangaffiliated
@alpacagangaffiliated 9 ай бұрын
Crazy to hear that Tony screamed at someone. I feel like you REALLLLLYYY gotta wear him down to get screamed at
@JimmyRaptis
@JimmyRaptis 9 ай бұрын
Punk hasn't seen a Rocky movie? This explains a lot about him
@Greenbeans0987
@Greenbeans0987 9 ай бұрын
One bill phil
@Lukerogers0121
@Lukerogers0121 9 ай бұрын
47:56 on Punk’s right bicep, is that a tattoo of the Devil mask?
@BobHansenJokes
@BobHansenJokes 9 ай бұрын
A lot of apologies for the Elite in this, and taking Elite stories to Meltzer and Swerve's DJ's account as fact.
@bryanmorrison2396
@bryanmorrison2396 9 ай бұрын
Am no phill fan hopefully this is his redemption. A think he will appreciate WWE now. Hell win his first rumble ME nyt 1 this year.
@Alexwhatisit
@Alexwhatisit 9 ай бұрын
This really paints Punk in a negative light.
@HunterPhenomMakoy
@HunterPhenomMakoy 9 ай бұрын
The guy who flat out walked out on the company doesn’t get to bitch about getting fired on his wedding day
@mbry1
@mbry1 2 ай бұрын
To this day I still don’t understand why Kenny got punished cause it sounds like he was just in the room as a bystander
@greghughes6098
@greghughes6098 9 ай бұрын
If you're dumb enough to believe that Colt Cabana matters to a wrestling company, you deserve to endlessly watch Battle of the Belts on a loop
@slupperd
@slupperd 9 ай бұрын
Holy shit man move the mic back a little...
@Christopher-cm6he
@Christopher-cm6he 4 ай бұрын
Its funny that it was lead by bryan Danielson, the same guy punk brought out, per the storyline but still, after he won and made him look like a million bucks
@jamalvargas6146
@jamalvargas6146 9 ай бұрын
As Much As I Defend AEW Tony Kahn Should've had the Balls the reprimand CM Punk he's the motherfing boss for Pete's sake he's lucky I don't go back to TNA wish I did but that's neither here or there
@isaacs.9383
@isaacs.9383 9 ай бұрын
As problematic as Punk can be I think every company needs a punk. For better and for worse
@jshipp5469
@jshipp5469 9 ай бұрын
Literally the only backstage issue in his career, how is he problematic?
@toxicpositivity9341
@toxicpositivity9341 7 ай бұрын
AEWs biggest draw was punk. He also provided the veteran experience to coach people up, get more eyes on guys that have never had that exposure, and they let him slip. I think Tony seeing Cody and now Punk get over big in WWE has made him realize the opportunities he’s let slip. Hopefully AEW gets their act together in order to be real competition, but Idk how they do that with their current structure. Too much toxicity in that locker room and in charge.
@stevelowe2647
@stevelowe2647 8 ай бұрын
That was an impressively long entrance to just say, punk was sacked, punk was hired, punk was sacked
@mayilvaganan2508
@mayilvaganan2508 7 күн бұрын
No major Backstage problem in AEW Since CM Punk was fired
@AndrewDSuarez
@AndrewDSuarez 3 ай бұрын
When are we going to get more rise and fall videos?
@bryanwladkowski1236
@bryanwladkowski1236 9 ай бұрын
Was expecting Sam…. UP THE ROSS!!!!!!
@rory4605
@rory4605 9 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic piece of journalism. Far more than just a recap.
@kyreeseclarke805
@kyreeseclarke805 9 ай бұрын
Ultimately what it comes down to is CM Punk takes the business seriously. The first thing he said was he wanted to make sure Tony Khan makes a profit to keep this business going. Tony Khan is a trust fund baby so he doesn’t really care about profit because his daddy bought him this playground. The Elite and other butt kissers will gladly keep running things that aren’t profitable. CM Punk could’ve and probably should’ve just kept his mouth shut as long as his own checks were signed but he the type that wants things his way. I think all parties are better off without each other as CM Punk WWE return has been a great success so far. While AEW still has lot of potential to get better. This is really old news now let all parties move on.
@searlZ96
@searlZ96 9 ай бұрын
JP is definitely being punished by Tony Khan at this point
@psyopticprodigy2427
@psyopticprodigy2427 9 ай бұрын
could have all been stopped if TK actually acted like a boss
@Elguapodelfuego
@Elguapodelfuego 9 ай бұрын
Title should be “how AEW squandered C.M. Punk”
@SaraDeppening
@SaraDeppening 26 күн бұрын
I’d rather watch Luke Perry wrestle today than Jack Perry
@matteoatigui2411
@matteoatigui2411 Ай бұрын
He is neo in the matrix of wrestling . He distrubs every system he's in . In a good , bad or both ways . Where you stand on that disturbance is a matter of perspective .
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