The Rise and Fall of Red Faction

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[@Based_Stuhlinger]

Thanks for taking my advice guys, really pleased you did this game! 😊

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

You can always do a rise and fall of Saints Row since its horrid reboot bombed so bad Volition’s parent company Embracer Group closed Volition’s doors after a storied 30 years.

[@HeatedGamerMoment-tj9ve]

>back to school IT IS OCTOBER NIGGA ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@OmikronNS]

I don't know man, this site has a ton of complaints with the BBB and looks pretty sketchy.

[@charmingpeasant9834]

@@Swordslinger-hb1ns "Haters gonna hate"🤷‍♂

[@NervousNoodles]

I had an absolute blast playing Guerilla. There was nothing like driving to a HQ, stocking up with tons of ammunition, driving to an EDF base and unleashing chaos on buildings, soldiers, vehicles, planes and everything in between. I played this on PS3 / 360 several times. I had fun with the MP also. Armageddon on the other hand was such a let down. I played through the campaign once and have completely forgotten what it was about.

[@user-jj5eb8ds2u]

I moved Guerilla as a teenager , i had no idea people didnt like it.

[@shaymorcormick8743]

I accidentally bought Armageddon on accident thinking it was gorilla....ya fuck that pos game

[@sukamadik5983]

I lost count of how many times I played the original Red Faction game. It had a crazy amount of things cramed into it from cars, ships, submarines, mining vehicles and so many types of enemies from all kinds of soldiers to muntans, robots and even people with powers. God it was fun.

[@ClumsyCars]

rf1 was the best, but to be fair i didnt play any of the others after playing RF2 demo and saying to myself what did they do, this isnt red faction

[@michaelandreipalon359]

​@@ClumsyCarsHey, Guerrilla is great, but I can agree with Armageddon and II being lackluster.

[@b4oneiszero516]

One thing my friend and I would do is load up mp with the max amount of bots. Both of us would then rush to the rockets and then shoot all round into the air so when they ran out of fuel they would come back down and bombard the area. We would also tunneled on some maps to get to the other side.

[@morenoortu9569]

They should do a remastered or a reboot taking the roots of rf1

[@Pewpewpew182]

It feels like it’s been awhile since we got a rise and fall video. Red Faction 1 and it’s destructive environments were amazing back in the day.

[@-Flabbergasted-]

20 october new blink-182 album my friend

[@mr_sauce_cooks]

And still is

[@PlebNC]

A spiritual successor to RF1's destruction could be Deep Rock Galactic due to its terrain deformation tech

[@Not_Liquid]

@@-Flabbergasted-Can’t wait!!

[@BigBenlolz]

Even today, especially ever since DICE forgot it was one Battlefields trademarks.

[@Softload3r]

I played Red Faction 2 as a kid and I still remember how amazed I was by the destruction. Played through it a couple of times and remember it as such a great and fun game!

[@DaussPlays]

Red Faction 1 was the first PC shooter I got *really* into as a kid, and it was incredible. The dynamic terrain deforming aspect was more than just a gimmick, a few maps really had unique strategies like digging a tunnel with explosives through the outer wall of the map to make a shortcut between the flags, which totally changed the game as the fight was for control of the new tunnel path. Loved the original, 2 was a miss, but Guerilla was fun too. Sad to see the series fall from grace.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

Geo-Mod destruction was so far ahead of It's time It's crazy , they were Implementing organic non-set peice almost fully modifiable environment destruction all the way back In *2001* , most devs rarely even properly Implement this In 2023. OG Red Faction was the multiplayer successor to 007 for me for a few years , and I still listen to the classic soundtrack.

[@odinulveson9101]

​@@fawkkyutuu8851I hope a new competent dev team use a ramped up version of Geomod with if must, using Unreal5 where Geo mod falls short

[@ARIXANDRE]

RIP Volition. You left your mark in the industry forever, with Red Faction and Saints Row.

[@onemorescout]

Yeah, a skid mark.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

​@@onemorescouttake your negativity somewhere else it's not welcome just because you didn't like stuff they made doesn't mean you can act like a skid mark yourself

[@supsquark505]

@@theunhingedgamer3762 Their lack of enjoyment from good games is their own punishment, and it's funny

[@krono5el]

Saints Row 1 and 2 along with Guerilla gave me some of the most unforgettable gaming times of my life. mad respect to those teams who made those super fun games.

[@gbblackknight]

@@theunhingedgamer3762 Quit trying to gatekeep. Not everyone has to like something you do.

[@SirFishdude]

I loved Red Faction 2's bots and how they leveled up the more you used them. It was such a neat concept and added flavor to them. Miss games with bots

[@yz6183]

Yes me and my cousin spent some time levelling up those bots and then fighting them! Loads of fun!

[@manuelacosta9463]

The first Red Faction followed by Guerrilla where highlights of my childhood and late teenage years respectively. The original is lost but still have Guerilla and it still holds it's own even now.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Good news, Red Faction I can still be gotten from Steam/GOG.

[@odinulveson9101]

​@@michaelandreipalon359Yup! Enjoy those until Thq Nordic start up q new competent team for a RF sequel. Hopefully retconning the chick kolling ending of RFA

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@odinulveson9101 Am already content with just the two games. Will never people and their rabid hunger for sequels that feel too post-script for their own good.

[@L0vac]

Bro, buy it digitally and use Dash Faction mod. Enjoy playing on modern systems and it has working MP.

[@theakspud]

My uncle introduced me to red faction when I was a kid. Played every single one with him. Has a special spot in my heart. RIP Thor, you're rocking with the best now. Love this series.

[@C-M-E]

All these years later and it still feels like the Red Faction games destructive environments level haven't been matched, graphical quality notwithstanding. Talk about ahead of its time!

[@SF2K01]

Both Red Faction's Geomod and Soldier of Fortune's GHOUL engine brought unparalleled realism to geometry and body destruction respectively that hasn't been matched since. Even today, shooting a rocket into a wooden door that doesn't even creek, or has a black decal at most, feels incredibly bad. I wish more games would take the Geomod idea as seriously as RF:G did.

[@kitano47]

i was about 11 when this came out and i remember thinking... wow imagine how good games will be in the future lmao we have gone backwards

[@purebaldness]

​@@kitano47games peaked at 1984's Elite. Nothing has ever come close since. All games suck because they're not Elite. Not even the 3 Elite sequels are Elite.

[@diogofelix8626]

​​​​​@@purebaldnessgames peaked with Jagged Alliance 2, but in all seriousness, the 2000's was something else, Gothic, Morrowind, Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock, Fallout 1 and 2 (those 4 in the end of 90's), and heck, at the end of the decade we had GTA IV, Far Cry 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Crysis, it was mind blogging to see how much raw potential the industry had and it's pretty sad to see only a handful of modern titles lived up to that expectation, it's such a shame that games focused more on the graphics fidelity, instead of physics simulations, non linearity and sandbox elements. It's ridiculous to compare Far Cry 6 to the Far Cry 2 and see that the second one was way more realistic.

[@purebaldness]

@@diogofelix8626 for me, the majority of my all time favourites are from the 90's. From the perfection of 2d games to the golden age of PC games. I love it.

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

Red Faction Guerilla was an amazing and unique open world game set in Mars, while Armageddon was okay enough, channeling a mix between Gears of War and Dead Space.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

A pity Armageddon is another jump-the-shark installment that shouldn't be referred to again.

[@d-d-i]

Played RF:Armageddon earlier this year again after many years, and I was actually surprised how good fun it was, and got the impression that it was nowhere near as bad game as reviews say. Sure, it's odd to step back from open world to linear level structure on sequel, especially since the previous game was such a blast. But as I played it, I felt that it really was a great, if little generic, 3rd person shooter with cool weapons and level designs, some of the later levels had excellent artstyle and graphics. Volition was one of those teams that suffered from not growing big enough to beef up some of the games they put out more, they always felt like an underdog studio with some great concepts, but never made it big time.

[@BLDTHEGAMER]

It is good...and lots of fun.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Generic third person shooters were the "WW2 FPS" of the time. The genre was saturated which made Armageddon unable to stand out.

[@AlphaZeroX96]

People tend to forget that Red Faction didn't even start as an open world series. It never was one.

[@Kenshiro3rd]

Red Faction was the reason I fell in love with Volition (which I didn't know was a renamed Parallax at the time). I loved the entire series... Armageddon included. RIP Volition...

[@Tribute2JohnnyB]

My friend Jason worked on this title (and many others) from Volition. I played HOURS of Red Faction with friends at LAN Parties. Man those were awesome times...

[@PresidentKony]

the lead engine designers for Red Faction Guerilla are absolute geniuses since it was built around the 360's hardware. At one point Volition entertained the idea of using Geo-Mod 2 in Saints Row 2

[@fartooeasy7315]

the summer red faction released was a good summer for gaming for myself and my brothers. We played this day and night for about 5 months straight. One of my fondest gaming memories.

[@PlebNC]

I played RF Armageddon recently for the first time. It's not bad. It's kinda like if Resident Evil was a Red Faction game and the physics engine is really fun and destruction is used pretty well. Using the magnet gun to hurl half a building to crush aliens doesn't stop being fun. I wouldn't mind a successor to it.

[@halflife3181]

GVMERS dropping another instant classic. 🍋

[@zachfiranski2515]

One of my all time favorite series growing up! Really hope someone can get ahold of the IP and do this series some modern justice. Would be amazing to see.

[@embracerodusk2537]

Red Faction 1 was the game I decided to pick up a PS2 for. Was one of the first games to really show off what it could do.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Almost the same with me, but with the PC.

[@RexTiredAF]

It's a good morning to wake up early when a GVMERS vid is up hot and fresh with thr coffee :) Thanks for all your work. It's always a pleasure watching these.

[@NoMansLand98]

Your voice really does suit these documentaries, keep em coming!!!

[@gingerbrummie]

So glad you made this vid red faction is a series that went under the radar more people should experience it

[@MikoYotsuya292]

RF 1 and 2 were my childhood multiplayer games, so much good memories. RIP Volition.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Guerrilla is still the better true second game though.

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

Eh subjective. By the time Guerrilla came out a large portion of the old school players that played RF 1 and 2 had moved on, especially since Gears of War 1 was still the superior 3rd person shooter compared to gurrilla@@michaelandreipalon359

[@TrueGaming140.48]

"Dont shoot im a medic" "over here help guards" haha classic red faction 1 had amazing music too.

[@kemoselimagic1479]

Guarilla and Armageddon destruction is game changing. It’s the type of technical innovation in video games that I’m looking for. I cannot believe no other games followed up with it in terms of destruction. It would literally make any game more fun

[@deathincluded3706]

RIP Volition, all you literally had to do is make FREESPACE 3 or another good red faction game and you would have still been around

[@ExtraSauceOnTheSide]

Armageddon was a project that Volition had to make do with what it had as you mentioned. What people don't know is that Guerilla was not financially successful for THQ, thus why Armageddon had a smaller scale, tighter focus, and a smaller budget. What isn't readily known is that THQ had interfered with the project right when the team was moving from pre-production. The project was originally called Red Faction Crusade and had a very different story. THQ wanted aliens because of "market research." Then they took a few months away from development time.

[@emer123ification]

Thank you for the amazing video. Love all of your rise and fall series

[@Max.............]

Absolutely loved red faction guerilla! Looking forward to sitting down some day and watching this video! Thanks.

[@ArchmagosEchelon]

One of my all time favorite game franchises! RF 1 & 2 being some of the most memorable games from my childhood and when Guerrilla came out one of my biggest gaming wishes came true - which was true and utter destruction and chaos with realistic physics. I ran through and completed RF 1, 2 and Guerrilla more than 7-8 times each, which was on par with how many times I completed Half-Life 1 & 2, F.E.A.R., Deus Ex, Quake 2, Silent Hill 1 & 2 and many others from that golden age of video games. I know many people don't like RF2 but to me it's better than Armageddon.

[@Ruffi0]

Red Faction 1 holds a special place in my heart

[@xqt6339]

Totally forgot about RF Armageddon. The series ended with Guerilla for me personally

[@michaelandreipalon359]

I'll say.

[@shaymorcormick8743]

"hey guys we finally got our shit together. How about we make a sequel that removes everything fans love about the games?huh?

[@stanleystaklight7555]

Missed you Gvmers thank you for your content and hard work 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤

[@JAZZYLGPRODUCTIONSLLC]

Red faction 1 and Guerilla were 2 of my favorite games back in the day on pc. I still occasionally play Guerilla, and love the mods that have extended its life.

[@thetayster]

Red Faction Guerilla was soooo good. Need another game like it this generation

[@EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany]

Red Faction Guerilla was amazing IMO, if they could just make that game but better it'd be a good comeback. The problem wasn't that the game was bad, the problem was that Volition was poorly managed.

[@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD]

dood i was stoned yesterday and just said i could do for another video former GVMERS. Something about the narrators voice plus learning video game history is awesome

[@Sean12248]

There was a rerelease of Red Faction Guerilla. Such a shame Armageddon didn't do well.

[@fqras]

Had a blast back in the day with RF:Guerrilla and SRIII.

[@Johny40Se7en]

No matter what happens in the future with Red Faction, Volition will always be remembered for how bloody awesome Red Faction Guerrilla is. Timeless gem with super fun and amazingly gloomy atmosphere, in no small part thanks to the wonderful soundtrack too 😊

[@Anonymouthful]

With Volition dead I wonder where most of their games are going to end up in.

[@nacs]

That song from the Quake 2 soundtrack used in this video's intro is one of the best soundtracks ever made. "Liked" as soon as I heard it.

[@Absolynth]

I enjoyed Armageddon for what it was worth. Some fun game play with the gravity gun and rebuild mechanic, and its story harkened back to the first game in a lot of ways. Guerilla is undeniably cool all around tho.

[@kingKaiju393]

It just needed a sequel

[@charithperera5155]

Blows my mind we haven't seen a good major destructible environments based game since Bad Company 2

[@PokyBallinBabo]

The series obviously has huge potential even today (no one has made anything like it since), I hope they resurrect it soon enough.

[@007kingifrit]

2 baffles me as it actually cut back on destruction way more than 1 but i still loved both

[@sumguy3687]

Guerilla: Open World Sandbox✅ Super destructive environments✅ Good story that wasnt trying too be oscar bait✅ Humanoid "stormtrooper-like" enemy✅ Easy "us vs the bad guys" no morally grey✅ Great atmosphere✅ Fun Multiplayer ✅ Armageddon: Completely tosses away the winning formula of a OpenWorld Sandbox❌ Less Destructive Environments ❌ Extremely Restricted & Linear, forced to play underground❌ Dumb beast Animal Enemies with messy cartoonish arcade "shoot me" design❌ Limited Multiplayer, no TDM❌

[@theplayerofus319]

one of my favorite game, sad what happened to it honestly

[@WolvenDogma]

As much hate as it gets, Red Faction 2 was one of the first games I ever played so I had nothing to compare it against except maybe Halo CE which I played once or twice on my cousins Xbox. RF2 got me hooked on military sci-fi and I still love it to this day flaws and all.

[@LazarheaD]

Loved the whole series. Very cool and innovative.

[@CaseFace5]

Man I have so many great memories playing split screen multiplayer in the first game with my brother. The environmental destruction is still so impressive to this day and I wish more games put more of a focus on destructible environments like that first game did.

[@Anon26535]

Volition may be gone, but the legend of Space Asshole lives on.

[@GodIsFromHarlem]

I loved Red Faction 2. I was a kid when it came out. That betrayal scene was so fire to me.

[@LifeAsANoun]

one of my best memories is the time spent playing these games. what a life...

[@MrMightyZ]

For the algorithm! Which is for you! Bravo GVMERS! So very glad to have you guys around👍

[@BlackAera]

I can't get over the guy typing with the classic double pointy finger technique at 29:35

[@mr.pointman1930]

Awaiting this for a very long time such an underrated franchise. Sadly, it fade away in early 2010s and never to be revive again.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Just keep the first game and Guerrilla live on the likes of the PC and other platforms, and I'll stay content. Games sorely need to stop depending on unnecessary sequels.

[@mr.pointman1930]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Got a point. Sadly, that is the reason. Why this series go down and never to be seen again.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@mr.pointman1930 Tch, why so pessimistic? At least those two games have more luck lasting long and proud compared to the unfortunate Unreal Tournament 1999 and 2004. *Blame motherkriffing bloody Fortnite for that,* although I'm awaiting those far superior games to get the Lazarus treatment.

[@mr.pointman1930]

@@michaelandreipalon359 What next for all the other OG developer been through? Definitely, it not the first time to fall and will not the last one either. Monolith? Id Software? Valve? Gearbox and other will follow suit.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@mr.pointman1930 ...Your poor grammar sure gives your darkened mind many doubtful claims.

[@Adoniis101]

I had a blast leveling everything I could.

[@jaigray5422]

Its sad that to this day red faction guerrilla is still the best destruction seen in a game, you would think other games wouldve taken note but nope i always imagined a battlefield game with destruction that good.

[@rossbrook5919]

Red faction 2 single player was absolutely fantastic. Character'sal and gameplay was great

[@JustinLeeper]

I worked at Game Informer, and pushed for Volition to be named Studio of the Year back in the day. Sad they’re gone now. A couple duds shouldn’t kill a whole studio… 😔

[@yonderkentucky1966]

Grew up playing red faction and it had so many great mechanics. RIP to Volition.

[@diboxide]

recently went back and played through Guerilla simply because the destruction was so good.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hope you'll also try out the first game.

[@quarterpie2769]

I played red faction 1 and 2 all the time as a kid we would dig tunnels forever lol.

[@fools_opinions]

Red Faction 1 and 2 are some of my favourite games ever, i really enjoyed the story mode in both and the multiplayer with bots was brilliant chaos, especially on maps like the lobby.

[@dmmgigante]

This channel is incredible , never stop making videosss

[@YourMichael]

I LOVED red faction gorilla. It was one of my favorite games as a kid

[@michaelandreipalon359]

*Guerrilla.*

[@flowerpower003]

@@michaelandreipalon359Hmmm Red Faction Monkey

[@kylev.1163]

I remember playing the guerilla demo back in the day. I'll never forget the impression the destruction left. For the time, the detail of destruction was insanely impressive. I never played the full game, but I never understood why the concept of total destruction never caught on in triple A games, especially today. Technology now has come so far, and games try hard to give players realism but leave out destructive elements. It takes me out of it personally. Games can be so much more than just visually appealing; like modern games are hyperfocused on now.

[@Goodjuiced]

Red faction 1 and 2 where some of my favourite old games. What a shame, the destruction of environments in that fps felt great.

[@Agk3los]

Personally... I really enjoyed every single entry of the Red Faction series. Played them all in order back to back once upon a time and it was just... a fun ride the whole time.

[@aungpyaesone5613]

Guerrilla is like THQ’s Just Cause.

[@pigsinspace9927]

Red Faction never died because of any bad games, it was just forgotten about and now with Volition gone it's probably gone for good

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Not exactly. Red Faction I and Guerrilla are still up and running, and not given a fate similar to the poor Unreal/Unreal Tournament games.

[@sukamadik5983]

So who else remembers the nightmare of fighting enemies with railguns while your stuck on a train on hard difficulty😅

[@WorldzMo5t3pic]

That title screen was dooooooope! Felt like a HBO show.

[@mproviser]

Rise and Fall of Descent. That part had me the most captivated. First online PC game I ever played.

[@tont760]

I will never forget what it felt like to sell off my PS1 to a friend, buy a PS2 along with a copy of Red Faction, and go home to the basement to be floored by the experience. It truly was gaming on another level.

[@nopens]

I remember being very excited about rf guerilla and just cause 2. Both felt fun for a couple of hours and then turned into awful grind. Both game featured open worlds and destruction as their selling points and both forget to add the rest of the gameplay to help destruction thrive.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Helps that they're even better and surprisingly improved sequels to their respective last games (RF II and JC1), though it hurts that their sequels can't compare (Armageddon and JC3 and 4 really feel lackluster).

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

Except Gureilla was repetitive as hell after a few hours compared to RF 2 which is why the series died so much after afterwards@@michaelandreipalon359

[@aceofhearts573]

Red Faction 1 was an amazing game. The second game completely dropped the ball. The third person games that came after are ok but they are different games.

[@kolbyhoward]

I'm a simple man. I see GVMERS post, I click. Love your content!

[@Theonlyoneleft1000]

Imagine if they stuck with the open world concept It could have been the Mars GTA. As the years went on and computer hardware imoroved imagine if Mars developed large cities that you could destroy. 100 story skyscrapers that you can hit with the nano rifle

[@CrisURace]

I played the demo of red faction ages ago. Then RFG a loooott, loved it. Good times.

[@OleNesie]

Ive had no multiplayer experience like red faction 1 capture the flag. So unique

[@jacovanvuuren8752]

Now I want to replay RF Guerilla, and I missed Armageddon, so I will maybe give it a try.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

You're better off only with the first game and Guerrilla. II is awkward, while Armageddon is apocryphal.

[@TrueGaming140.48]

I never understood the interest in always skipping the story ahead through generations. The first game had enough lore intrigue for direct sequels etc. Guerilla was atleast more connected to that timeframe.

[@cipherpac]

I miss this series.

[@pipinfresh]

I never played Red Faction one, but I had 2 on the playstation and I loved it. It was one of my favourite games back in the day. I also loved 3. It's a shame the franchise and Volition died.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

"Dead" would mean Red Faction I and Guerrilla are woefully delisted, which they aren't. And besides, Volition is better off dead than be unanesthetically gutted by EA and Ubisoft.

[@Barbaroossa]

Red Faction Guerrilla was truly a great game but it had one major flaw: Mars in it did not look like a massive bustling and industrialized colony, it looked more like a fledgling backwater settlement, its buildings were small, architecturally simplistic and the inside of them didn't look functional at all, they simply did not look like these were buildings inhabited by people.

[@mathewm6294]

Crazy how much I loved the second Red Faction even though the first game was actually better. But Guerilla is where it hit its stride.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

OG Red Faction was the game that took over 007 as my go to console FPS multiplayer for 6th gen , Geo-Mod destruction was way ahead of It's time and the soundtrack Is equally classic. Most people were hyping up Halo 1 and 2 during the early 2000s , but from 2001 - 2004 It was all about heated Red Faction multiplayer matches for me. Hope this franchise returns.

[@blobbem]

No game blew me away quite like the first Red Faction game with how I could just dig a tunnel via explosives. It was the coolest thing ever in a game to child me. It took until Red Faction Guerilla to blow me away again with its destruction.

[@CyonisCyberFox]

I hope someday someone new comes along to take healm of Red Faction and Saints Row now that Volition is sadly gone. These franchises deserve it

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Red Faction I and Guerrilla are still going strong on the PC, so they're already in good hands. Now, Saints Row 2... man, when's that polished PC rerelease gonna come out?

[@djlaw56what]

The engine used in red faction 1 is amazing i wish it would have been used more

[@buckn5]

You could probably do a rise and fall of saints row at this point, I would be surprised if they do another one.

[@PhiLudo]

thanks for always making these videos. i love them

[@emaheiwa8174]

Id love to hear you talk about Novalogic/Delta Force. Thank you for the best content on YT

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Ah, Novalogic. They sure made some good games like Enemy Engaged. Would rather want to see the S.W.A.T. games be explored instead.

[@bigbeefy111]

I actually enjoyed Armageddon a fair bit when it came out. Mostly due to the new repair function, but I soon got bored with it upon beating the main story and trying out the co-op mode over live. I think the biggest problem was the move from sandbox, and back to linear levels. I can understand wanting to tell a good contained story, but they were known for the destructive sandbox of Guerilla at that time. So they needed to knock it of the park with a very strong story if they wanted to make a change to the gameplay loop. Unfortunately, I dont think the team was capable of that. I never played Guerrilla for the strong story. It was acceptable as a vehicle to open up the sandbox and challenge the player, but it wasnt very memorable on its own. Its replayability, for me, was found in the sandbox chaos.

[@fmrscout33]

Guerilla was the only version I ever played. I'll never forget the first time I drove straight through a building, destroying it. The only game I played at the time with the same feel, was BF Bad Company. Sadly, nothing seems match the destruction level of those today.

[@CBU-oq1lu]

Armageddon was probably the dumbest way to success on Guerrilla. EVERYONE liked the open world structure and the endless chaos one could create. Make it linear again and focus on flat characters and story was insane.