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The rise and fall of the 2000s video vixen | Khadija Mbowe

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Khadija Mbowe

Khadija Mbowe

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@softxgurl1278
@softxgurl1278 3 жыл бұрын
black woman growing up seeing our bodies just be over sexualized for a 3 minute music video was not the best feeling.
@eunice.6525
@eunice.6525 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not
@OpqHMg
@OpqHMg 3 жыл бұрын
@UCm0vuNowYmk2fGsfUgRzh_A being desirable seems to be a way to feel powerful? :/ Also money + recognition i would imagine
@ananorman1532
@ananorman1532 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it made me feel uncomfortable bruh
@danib2286
@danib2286 3 жыл бұрын
Well times have changed light skin, mixed and non black women are the rage.
@m.d.1395
@m.d.1395 3 жыл бұрын
I know it ruined the little bit of confidence I had
@BlakeL623
@BlakeL623 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please do a video on Tyra, that woman should’ve never been given a platform. I hate when ppl are invited on shows to be bullied by the host and goaded by the audience.
@bkunjo
@bkunjo 3 жыл бұрын
I second. The fact that this woman has not been held accountable for the incredible damage she's done, especially to young women of color, is beyond me.
@leebird9023
@leebird9023 3 жыл бұрын
You could do a feature-length film on Tyra; her show was a hot mess.
@lottie9992
@lottie9992 3 жыл бұрын
"I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU, WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU. HOW DARE YOU!"
@whythont9395
@whythont9395 3 жыл бұрын
yes we just nneed a video about tyra.
@rehemamalaika7012
@rehemamalaika7012 3 жыл бұрын
i second this!
@Ohh4udumn
@Ohh4udumn 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I was 7 years old thinking I was going to become a video vixen one day. We have to talk about being exposed to sexual content so early on in the black community.
@apriltiff6452
@apriltiff6452 3 жыл бұрын
Yess
@kilimanjaro5537
@kilimanjaro5537 3 жыл бұрын
Right I used to want to be in those videos 🥴🤦🏾‍♀️. I just thought they were so pretty.
@symoneayanna3570
@symoneayanna3570 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously!! I was 6 or 7 telling my family I want to be a video girl......
@sarahwashington00
@sarahwashington00 3 жыл бұрын
WE HAVE TO
@ndidindekwu4574
@ndidindekwu4574 3 жыл бұрын
This comment!
@aryelmermaid
@aryelmermaid 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 36 and grew up in Philly. I've got stories of rappers rolling up to the high school to pick up the girls for the video shoots... don't get me started.
@shayb8203
@shayb8203 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh gurl spill the tea!
@KiranSeo.
@KiranSeo. 3 жыл бұрын
Oh nah I gotta hear this it sounds very r.Kelly like
@delainegarland440
@delainegarland440 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please spell the tea, I’m from as well,but rappers never showed up to my HS
@leilanidru7506
@leilanidru7506 3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t tea that’s predatory...and potentially pedophilia🤢 those poor girls
@xBlackBunnyx
@xBlackBunnyx 3 жыл бұрын
That part.
@hayabusahime
@hayabusahime 3 жыл бұрын
That Wendy Williams clip was so cruel. Karine was in tears and Wendy was still throwing cruel jokes at her. You reap what you sow, Wendy has spent years spreading people's business and now look at her life , a mess. Her karma came back on her.
@selwatchesyt
@selwatchesyt 3 жыл бұрын
That’s Wendy! Queen troll.
@blueisblue599
@blueisblue599 3 жыл бұрын
Wendy is incredibly disgusting and insecure.
@ncllttferguson4
@ncllttferguson4 3 жыл бұрын
Wendy is absolute trash
@-Desire
@-Desire 3 жыл бұрын
Wait how is her life a mess? Didn't she release a movie? Dang I'm outta the loop but I do believe she should be de-platformed
@availanila
@availanila 3 жыл бұрын
Wendy Williams is like Pierce Morgan, troll that insist it's just a job for them but they're nice in real life 🙄.
@KoKo-ig3dj
@KoKo-ig3dj 3 жыл бұрын
I think overall, people like the idea of a woman being sexually liberated and powerful until she gets too powerful, then she becomes the enemy. Everyone was down for/with Karine until she surpassed the average everyday video vixen lol once she started REALLY capitalizing not only off of her body but her EXPERIENCES in those spaces, she was no longer relatable or "like" the rest of them. As soon as she decided to cash out on all the trauma that got her in those spaces, people started trying to shut her up. That just goes to show that no matter how much men and even some women champion female empowerment and sexual liberation, the support will always be conditional. As long as you're relatable enough or within reach of the majority, you'll receive support. Once you step out of that box you are a target. It's truly unfortunate.
@thandyyl8634
@thandyyl8634 3 жыл бұрын
well said
@reylime2991
@reylime2991 3 жыл бұрын
They want women to be complacent 😞
@Veronicababe
@Veronicababe 3 жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏 say that!!!
@muckamuck
@muckamuck 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could upvote this multiple times!
@paskaliaemma7264
@paskaliaemma7264 3 жыл бұрын
Do you watch Tee Noir?
@Alexisisnt
@Alexisisnt 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, everyone is always so quick to be "concerned" for the "privacy" of these men. How disgusting for a young black woman to UTILIZE and turn on the system that has exploited her for profit. But the industry using her, that's fine, right? This makes me so angry. I can't believe I watched Tyra as a young teen.
@deej5608
@deej5608 3 жыл бұрын
You and me both Queen.
@snem9381
@snem9381 3 жыл бұрын
Mad when we "victimise ourselves" (not even a thing) and mad when we stand up for ourselves
@chenellebeautytv
@chenellebeautytv 3 жыл бұрын
🗣 My exact thoughts
@100Stratusfiedx
@100Stratusfiedx 3 жыл бұрын
The MeToo movement hitting the hip hop community is long overdue. We’ve all heard stories about these rappers and it took a lot of courage for her to write this book.
@patriciadavis3549
@patriciadavis3549 3 жыл бұрын
She wrote this book in 2005!
@melodramatic7904
@melodramatic7904 2 жыл бұрын
I hope R Kelly's conviction was the first step.
@imxel2193
@imxel2193 2 жыл бұрын
The metoo movement was started by a black woman in 2005
@imxel2193
@imxel2193 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t let white feminism take credit for these movements
@100Stratusfiedx
@100Stratusfiedx 2 жыл бұрын
@@imxel2193 ok and even 15 plus years later the only black artist paying for his crimes is R Kelly.
@LunaWitcher
@LunaWitcher 3 жыл бұрын
That sexualization was so uncomfortable to watch as a teenager. I remember the boys would just drool over those music videos and all I could think was "I'm not like that, so no one will pay attention" and it was sad.
@christelleilmet3601
@christelleilmet3601 3 жыл бұрын
@@nharber9837 I’m sorry you went through and felt that way. I’m currently going through that now myself
@m.d.1395
@m.d.1395 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I knew I would be alone for the rest of my life because I didn't look like Melyssa Ford or the other video models I would see on tv
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry you went through this growing up. In the early 2000s I was a kid born in 98💯
@zekeking1037
@zekeking1037 3 жыл бұрын
I was like: ‘I don’t ever want sexual attention... from men especially.... maybe if I dress in a way that hides every potential hint of curve, I will be safe.’ Dressed in long, loose jeans and baggy hoodies for the rest of my teenage and young adult years- preferring pools of back sweat to being seen as fodder for male sexualization... and it still didn’t work.
@christelleilmet3601
@christelleilmet3601 3 жыл бұрын
@@nharber9837 thank you this honestly made me feel better, thank you so much. Sending you all my love and good energies 💙
@mrs.w8193
@mrs.w8193 3 жыл бұрын
Video Vixen era has turned into the IG/Influencer Model era in 2021
@HeyLiLiBaby
@HeyLiLiBaby 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the vid yet I’m just letting it load while I scroll through the comments but when I clicked on it I was hoping it would go in this direction because I feel like the ‘transformation’ is so obvious
@dazzeldil143
@dazzeldil143 3 жыл бұрын
You mean 2016?
@therealsouthernbelles
@therealsouthernbelles 3 жыл бұрын
Right
@bohosweet
@bohosweet 3 жыл бұрын
Tyra would have ppl bare their deepest darkest hurts in the name of good TV, only to victim blame and then turn the moment around and make it about her. The narcissism jumped out consistentlyyyyy.
@joanbradshaw333
@joanbradshaw333 3 жыл бұрын
Watch "Space Ghost Coast to Coast" interview with Tyra ""Chinatown" episode it plays with her narcissism.
@CherryBlossomBlyue
@CherryBlossomBlyue 3 жыл бұрын
Listen Theres a KZbinr on here who has videos picking about America's Next Top Model. Through watching these I realize how ridiculous Tyra is. She is a mess
@cheryl5667
@cheryl5667 3 жыл бұрын
Tyra's treatment of Kim Kardashian was really interesting... She treated Ray J extremely differently, being overjoyed to see him and was deeply patronizing to Kim.
@sailorfan86
@sailorfan86 3 жыл бұрын
Tyra always acted like she was a great scholar with the greatest IQ.
@ms.x1669
@ms.x1669 3 жыл бұрын
Like honestly!!!!!!!!!! I think the stereotype that models are dumb got to her really bad so she tried to over-prove that she was smart and beautiful and was the full package. She would also do all these publicity stunts try to be "relatable".
@sailorfan86
@sailorfan86 3 жыл бұрын
@@ms.x1669 But she's not. Even when that Rihanna/Chris Brown case happened and Oprah did her show on Domestic a**** where Tyra was a guest. Never understood why she was there. She acted like she's a counselor and was like: oh Oprah look look she's ( referring to a girl ) saying no or whatever. She just needs to sit down.
@xBlackBunnyx
@xBlackBunnyx 3 жыл бұрын
You petty. 💀 😂 She sure did sit there and act like she knew something. 😂 She was honestly just a bully with a mic.
@sailorfan86
@sailorfan86 3 жыл бұрын
@@xBlackBunnyx YUP she was.
@deej5608
@deej5608 3 жыл бұрын
@@xBlackBunnyx big time
@Tupacizmybaby4eva
@Tupacizmybaby4eva 3 жыл бұрын
Karrine gets so much shit but her story is a reality for some women. The backlash she faced was so wild! I always thought it was so weird
@tacrewgirl
@tacrewgirl 3 жыл бұрын
People were telling on themselves by the backlash.
@nanii22
@nanii22 3 жыл бұрын
I was 15 when her first book came out and I remember thinking then that it was stupid how people were mad at HER and not the married men she was being paid to sleep with.
@KoKo-ig3dj
@KoKo-ig3dj 3 жыл бұрын
Facts, all the former video vixens that openly shamed her, saying "it's not my story etc"...... okay... so don't identify with it then. Yes there will inevitably be narrow minded people that assume all video vixens act in the way Karine did, but to then get defensive and publicly bash her after claiming it doesn't reflect your story..... yeah thats definitely a choice lol. Turning a nose up at Karine is not the flex some women think it is😀I'm not speaking out on shit especially if it has nothing to do with me.
@sirenthomas4595
@sirenthomas4595 3 жыл бұрын
the girls were mad bc she was getting the attention and the coinz ...oh yea and wrote a book that has made her so rich she never has to work again ......the dudes well men dont like to be exposed
@nanii22
@nanii22 3 жыл бұрын
@Leniese Loves Film yes! her life was tragically abusive and she named every single man who ever took part in it. Yet, of course, they didnt get half the vitriol she did. People are weird with what their "morals" lead them to be outraged about
@Chaka_Davis
@Chaka_Davis 3 жыл бұрын
When I think of video vixens, I think of Nelly. I hate to admit it, but he was very influential on what I thought was sexy for a long time. He was everywhere! My mom banned shows like 106 and Park, yet I still knew all the dances. I remember being in kindergarten and seeing girls loop the bottom of their shirts through the neck hole to make it look like a bikini because of a Nelly video. You could do a stand-alone documentary on his impact on the vixen culture. Also, Tyra getting mad at a vixen when her career is founded upon selling her attractiveness is peak dissonance.
@sagethelibra
@sagethelibra 3 жыл бұрын
Say that last sentence again for the people in the backkkk!!!!
@dc9067
@dc9067 3 жыл бұрын
Kindergarten oh god
@dandavids769
@dandavids769 3 жыл бұрын
Omg my mom banned 106 and park too and people always thought that was mad weird😭
@shesaballer35
@shesaballer35 3 жыл бұрын
The early 2000s were a mess. We were taught at such a young age that being overly sexual, wearing revealing clothes, and being submissive was how we got power and attention. I think thats really the reason why so many of us became hyper-sexual earlier on. I also think there are points to be made about modern feminism. There’s a whole half that thinks that being “sexually liberated” is when you act like a video vixen and dress provocatively and no one is allowed to judge you (which yes 100% women can do/dress however they want) but this is the type of “feminism” that I think benefits men more than anyone else and the type that they will tolerate. It completely ignores the other side of sexual liberation which is women being able to have standards for how their bodies are treated/what they expect from a partner/the standards of respect that they expect from society. That is the side that men and society still do not like and have never liked from us.
@imxel2193
@imxel2193 2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t both be a thing? Someone can be sexual or not. Some could be both at the same time. I hate how almost every movement is an extreme of one or the other
@shesaballer35
@shesaballer35 2 жыл бұрын
@@imxel2193 that’s what I said. I mentioned both sides of modern feminism and how Women can be both but certain aspects of modern feminism are more tolerated from men and society than others
@juanvasquez6535
@juanvasquez6535 2 жыл бұрын
3rd wave feminism is complicated. Men are never asked to do complicated.
@lg403
@lg403 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the 2000‘s were so misogynistic!!! A woman Could never do good
@musiclover-cn7tb
@musiclover-cn7tb 2 жыл бұрын
That's true hypersexuality was everywhere in the 90's and 00's sex and more sex so many girls and young men tried following that lifestyle I just stood back and watched.
@borararax2
@borararax2 3 жыл бұрын
Khadija: could you imagine paying $30 for a CD now??? K-pop fans: 👁👄👁
@ayanna6327
@ayanna6327 3 жыл бұрын
My exact reaction!
@layla-8369
@layla-8369 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment 😂
@den9847
@den9847 3 жыл бұрын
at least it comes with a posters and pics lol
@user-rr3xz6nm9z
@user-rr3xz6nm9z 3 жыл бұрын
Me casually looking at my BTS BE album that was $50🤭
@hsnrb9959
@hsnrb9959 3 жыл бұрын
Kpop albums are a rip off, and I see so many people selling them to get rid of them. Even the creased posters, flimsy photocards and stickers aren't worth it.
@kelseyspolejourney5417
@kelseyspolejourney5417 3 жыл бұрын
On a lighter note, that transition to "GAYYYYY" was amazing
@ubanicorn
@ubanicorn 3 жыл бұрын
Senor Cheng!! 😂
@paccinocappaccino
@paccinocappaccino 3 жыл бұрын
I looked for this comment
@evavillalobos8616
@evavillalobos8616 3 жыл бұрын
and SO. relatable
@the9file
@the9file 3 жыл бұрын
Love the phrase “transition to gay”.
@sharigill3130
@sharigill3130 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when my sister got this book and appreciate the response she had to it. My sister said and I quote “Good for her! These men don’t deserve secrecy.......Let them be mad.”
@solvjans5988
@solvjans5988 3 жыл бұрын
looking back on early 2000s media... the misogyny was so hard. This is not so long ago. This is what we grew up with
@BlakeL623
@BlakeL623 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up, knowing how to burn CDs and download music off sites like limewire was a necessary skill. I always feel like we are such a skilled generation, coding on MySpace before we even knew what coding was.
@tjuhneen
@tjuhneen 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, every time I open my instagram I can’t help but think how much better my page would be with a song and lyric marquee😂
@princessG313
@princessG313 3 жыл бұрын
Honey that was how I was making my lunch money in middle school 😂 I was burning cds doing Buy (one (charging them 5) get one free personalized cds by the end of the week I had a nice $50 🤣😂
@miglek9613
@miglek9613 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nowadays there aren't as many people who just casually do programming stuff. As someone with serious trouble comprehending programming (more specifically remembering all the commands and what they do), a large portion of people just casually using coding to make their social media profiles look pretty is impressive af
@tyrealmal2004
@tyrealmal2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@miglek9613 TL:DR at bottom, followed by a code example of the laymen term explanation in HTML and CSS if you're interested. Sorry for the rant, I didn't realize how long winded it was getting until after I was done :P As programmer, I'm rather loathe to dispel any of the great mystique surrounding our ways, because I like looking like a magician, the awe of the masses fuels my ego to keep chugging past my depression and anxiety, and my boss would question my wage if he realized I wasn't unlocking the secrets of the philosophers stone on every project but... MySpace pages _generally_ weren't that impressive and you can build _a lot_ only knowing how to copy and paste code; I fix copy-paste code from "professional" coders on the cheaper end of the spectrum so often that it _actually_ contributes to my mental health problems. Don't get me wrong, there were definitely some examples of more advanced code implementations floating around on MySpace, but for the _most_ part they leaned on rather basic HTML and CSS with any JavaScript used _generally_ being copy-pasted into place with some naming variables swapped to fit your page; and the occasional intervention from a (sometimes online) friend that actually understood what they were doing if things they copied _really_ didn't work how they should. The things that got most frequently altered without the aid of copy-pasting tended to be simple HTML and CSS, which largely boiled down to 'I want a box here with text inside, and I'll name it X', the HTML, followed by a different bit of code in your CSS saying 'things that are named X: have a font that's Blue, a font size of 13px, and a background image found at _this_ url'; or styles might be inline if you hate yourself and like typing the same things over and over. The commands for all of that are very legible and rather straight forwards; they were even more so then, but even with modern browsers and the new things they let us do they still aren't hard now. The Type of code that _actually_ requires you to memorize a bunch of commands, the rules behind the data structures those commands are aimed to effect or use, chain logical statements together to achieve a specific end, manage state and typing so that the _number_ "1" doesn't become a bool "True", ect ect ect was beyond the scope of what most people played with 'casually'; they might not have been _paid_ to do it _professionally_ at the time, but it was still an effortful endeavor. The truely impressive implementations tended not to be 'casual', with people sinking serious time into making certain features work as they liked and then sharing code blocks so that others could copy paste them into _their_ pages at lower effort. Many of the people who put in the most effort are _professionals_ now, though obviously not all. TL:DR Obviously, an insider perspective changes my view of the matter somewhat, but _most_ MySpace pages were the equivalent of cooking Hamburger Helper from the instructions on the box. Sure, some people might have added some red chilly flakes or substituted ground turkey in place of ground beef, and it definitely impresses someone that's only ever order take out or boiled ramen noodles, but it's not _really_ that impressive if you take a moment to read how simple and completely non-magical the instructions on the box are. As an aside not _actually_ mentioned above, my four and five year old nieces read and write HTML and CSS; the basics _really_ aren't complicated and I'm not sure why you think literacy in them is going down when it's actually been steadily increasing world wide. Not Long Enough: Show Code or Get Out Poser The HTML in my layman example above would look something like: Fun Text Will Be Blue! The background on the box this text is in would be an image! While the CSS might look like: fun-text-box: { color: blue, font-size: 13px, background-image: url("the actual image location url goes here.gif"), } Now all the divs you classify as a "fun-text-box" has blue font of a specific size and a gif looping as it's background. Surprisingly legible, eh? You need to learn that a is an element that contains other groups of elements and DIVides them from _other_ elements, like the comment section might have it's own div, containing div's for each individual comment, ect, while a is a Paragraph of text, and any can be CLASSified with a name to receive the same properties. Beyond that the code that changes how those elements _look_ is very nearly laymen's terms; _specific_ laymen's terms, yes, but reading them it should be clear what does what and if something ever slips your mind they hadn't been difficult to look up even before the time of MySpace.
@ashdacraft
@ashdacraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyrealmal2004 I feel you as someone who still works in software and was in college in 2009-2012 and had to learn HTML markup before CSS became the standard.
@ACommonSpring
@ACommonSpring 3 жыл бұрын
Girl giving us an Adam and Eve sponsorship because she knew this video being so good would give us metaphorical blue balls as we wait for part two.
@AM-AnitaM
@AM-AnitaM 3 жыл бұрын
😹😂
@dvffYT
@dvffYT 3 жыл бұрын
🔵🔵
@bmoore-n-life
@bmoore-n-life 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance where we can get a video discussing not only the hypersexualization of black women that has been used in order to objectify in degrade us, but how the media often tries to conceal it as simply pretty privilege? I am so sick of being treated like my nature as a curvy black woman is to be sexual and my place is to accept overly forward and rude sexual advances, and then being told I'm just sensitive for realizing how this label is used to dismiss my boundaries to the point of harassment and/or assault because it is used as dehumanization
@ZoeyChilds
@ZoeyChilds 3 жыл бұрын
Fellow (older) millennial auntie here👋🏾 I was a young teenager during this era, and a 4-12 year old watching the 90s videos, I can say first hand they had a HUGE impact on our little minds and how they developed. It’s crazy to see the parallels from that era to today and not to mention how much the kardashians completely embodied the whole esthetic and made it a crossover thing 🙃😅sometimes I watch tv from that time and think about the little kids that were watching it and think to myself ‘that explains SO much’ lol
@callum6123
@callum6123 3 жыл бұрын
Finding out you’re gay through music videos is such a universal experience like yeah mom I like it cause the song is catchy which is why I’ve watched it 48 times on repeat
@slm613
@slm613 3 жыл бұрын
truly !!! shakira's whenever, wherever video was an awakening for me
@stupidass69420
@stupidass69420 3 жыл бұрын
@@slm613 oh sameeee
@SpaztasticSheep
@SpaztasticSheep 3 жыл бұрын
A true win for the girls 😌❤
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 3 жыл бұрын
Music videos in general are a big part of a kid discovering their sexuality especially if u were a kid in the early 2000s Lmaoo I remember the Brittany spears toxic video
@slm613
@slm613 3 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 omg yep, add that one to the list
@theacidrat
@theacidrat 3 жыл бұрын
The world was a very different place for women just 15-20 years ago. This video brought up some memories, whew.
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest. Definitely a different place😏😭
@ashdacraft
@ashdacraft 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely. I was a teenager from 2001 to 2008 and it was a very rough time. I have access to things in my 30s that I would’ve never been able to do teens to young adult because of the standard that was put in place back then.
@itowilltube
@itowilltube 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashdacraft huh?
@ashdacraft
@ashdacraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@itowilltube I was a teenager in the early 2000s. I’m in my 30s now. I got a modeling contract now with missing teeth, tattoos, piercings, and colorful hair-that would’ve never happened when I was 21.
@victoriabells8671
@victoriabells8671 3 жыл бұрын
We still haven’t recovered
@FranMeneses
@FranMeneses 3 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE TYRA I BEG YOUUUU
@reshmaissac6364
@reshmaissac6364 3 жыл бұрын
OMG FRAN!! Why am I so happy that you watch Khadija too??! 🥺 Big fan of your illustrations!!
@MeghannMonroe
@MeghannMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
As a former “model” “video girl” this was great. I’m a professional dancer and former pro cheerleader. I was in college in the early 2000s so videos were an opportunity to make money. Digital cameras also brought about the easy access to model along with our new found sexual freedom. As a black girl in the industry, traditional modeling was not an option for me. I was too short, and too curvy. So I got auditions for videos and would go. I did country music and hip hop. The 2000s were the wild Wild West. Tip Drill shut shit down for the video industry. Also, simultaneously while Napster was taking down music, MTV started realty tv with real world and VH1 followed suit with the Surreal Life. Programming went from music to reality tv which was cheaper. Reality TV reigns supreme. No rooms for videos. No TRL, no 106, no video soul, no rap city. Who remembers Cita’s World! What a time! Also remember The Box! A video show no one really got but could see thru snow and had to call in to see the video. Video vixens moved from music to Flavor of Love. Watching that recently made me want to do a video on that and I just might.
@nevaehl2212
@nevaehl2212 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for her cause a lot people were really victim blamed her. Like this is why people don’t come out about anything 🙄
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
THIS RIGHT HERE‼️We need to start hearing one another out. Sure, some people do lie, BUT it’s a good thing to give a listen, especially when the person has receipts🧾
@nevaehl2212
@nevaehl2212 3 жыл бұрын
@@JulianSteve Exactly but when it involves a famous celebrity or influencer it literally just gets swept under the rug 🤦🏽‍♀️
@marie_84
@marie_84 3 жыл бұрын
@@nevaehl2212 *#FreeBritney* 👑👑👑
@imani0nline
@imani0nline 3 жыл бұрын
The 2000s was really something, looking back even though I was a literal CHILD it was a fever dream 🙇🏾‍♀️
@laysaferreirasilva2146
@laysaferreirasilva2146 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest. It was definitely something else💯
@trippinwithamadi
@trippinwithamadi 3 жыл бұрын
Instagram models are definitely the new video vixen , but I think Instagram model have a more stable platform because they don’t have y depend on a rapper or producer for exposure.
@FleurHatesCupcakes
@FleurHatesCupcakes 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always remember, a (French) Glamour issue published a story around 2004 about a video vixen and managed in two pages to humanize them, give them a voice and basically opened my eyes to the amount of bs these people were facing coming from regular folks. It painted an idyllic image of the industry, but I feel like it really helped me start to question the misogynic messages I was getting from TV hosts/teen magazines etc...
@feavouglan4427
@feavouglan4427 3 жыл бұрын
That color is fire on you....you are killin’ it, the beauty is 100%!!!
@dianecalderon1700
@dianecalderon1700 3 жыл бұрын
I was just going to comment the same thing! She’s got that rose gold glow 😍
@unSeife
@unSeife 3 жыл бұрын
totally agree!!
@Laladust
@Laladust 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe Khadija could wear a potato sack and still look ready for the red carpet. She's that beautiful. I agree though, her skintone loves this peach.
@Samantha2209
@Samantha2209 3 жыл бұрын
PLLLLLEEEASEE do a video on Tyra, PLEASE! Girl you can't tease a video topic like that. We need you to talk about Tyra.
@Godsustains
@Godsustains 3 жыл бұрын
ooh Khadija, please do a video on the sort of 'silent' promotion of traditional Black and POC female bodies as the beauty standard, but how credit is not actually given to Black and POC females. This is similar to what you said earlier in this video when you stated that 2000s video vixens influence what is now considered 'beautiful' and marketable on social media. I think it will be interesting to see how Black Beauty ideals influence a predominately yt society over time because even though black beauty was not always in the mainstream, Black and POC female body traits such as full lips, thick eyebrows, full bodies, curvy chests, etc were always championed as the beauty ideal in people such as Marilyn Monroe, Angelina Jolie, etc! Perhaps BIPOC beauty throughout time could be a series? ILY videos btwww
@LorryHill
@LorryHill 2 жыл бұрын
This was so well done; yeah I remember Melyssa Ford being HUGE back then; glad to hear she made her money!
@lola.odetola
@lola.odetola 3 жыл бұрын
wow being a 2000s bby, i need this nostalgia rn 😭
@ceci9570
@ceci9570 3 жыл бұрын
how can you remember this stuff if you were born in the 2000s i was born in 2004 and can't remember any of this
@jessislistless
@jessislistless 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceci9570 re-runs and MTV
@christelleilmet3601
@christelleilmet3601 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceci9570 same born in 2004 but also when I was little these videos were playing on tv and on the radios so like yea
@Iuvkrssy
@Iuvkrssy 3 жыл бұрын
yall lying LMAO
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessislistless Yes and VH1 too. People be forgetting the re-runs. Also, KZbin plays a part of watching throwback music videos💯
@AlwaysAmeera
@AlwaysAmeera 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the tip drill video really made an impact. My sis was at spellman when they boycotted nelly’s attendance at the university. That credit card swipe was a HUGE DEAL back in the day.
@kikilari
@kikilari 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hope she mentions that video in detail in the next video. BET UNCUT is basically synonymous with that video due to that infamous credit swipe scene...!
@tacrewgirl
@tacrewgirl 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard of that video until this comment. I watched the video and wow.
@ayanna6327
@ayanna6327 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm a 2000s kid, but I'd never heard of the Tip Drill video. I'm 23 and just watched it. Everyday I find a new reason to wonder why people were so mad at WAP when shit like that exists.
@MozzieMutant
@MozzieMutant 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently that credit card swipe was the Model’s idea...not saying it was right tho
@MinnakRajala
@MinnakRajala 3 жыл бұрын
I had to go see the video. It was so sad. Tens of women just looking bored and some flashing their private parts and tits and looking absolutely miserable doing it 😐 i felt so sad for them. They probably thought that was what you had to do to get ahead in life.
@jessicai.bartlett4142
@jessicai.bartlett4142 3 жыл бұрын
'People don't exist for you' I love that!
@p.j.3804
@p.j.3804 3 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking it odd that my mom was ok with me watching glam rock videos with white biki models, but not being okay with me watching rap videos with vixens. Much confusion ¯\_ʘ‿ʘ_/¯
@Frank-ju8qr
@Frank-ju8qr 3 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea what this video topic even is LET'S GO LEARNIN'
@thetheodora2371
@thetheodora2371 3 жыл бұрын
right? i never heard of this particular woman or the term "vixen", nor did i ever stop to think about music actors/dancers/backdrop as a separate category!
@tacrewgirl
@tacrewgirl 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetheodora2371 You should read Karrine's book, Confessions of a Video Vixen.
@onlinebri444
@onlinebri444 3 жыл бұрын
Video vixens were very popular in 2000s hip hop culture. They had covers on hip hop magazines and they were the influencers of their time
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlinebri444 Yes they were. Video vixens set the trend for some of these influencers💯
@onlinebri444
@onlinebri444 3 жыл бұрын
@@JulianSteve oh yea i remember my dad buying king magazines and how I thought the women on the covers were absolutely gorgeous
@gravyall0va
@gravyall0va 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you understand how much joy it brings me to hear the pencil skirt song again whilst you sway your hips in this salmon number
@MissBB6041
@MissBB6041 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in 01' but I still got into this type of music from a young age. I wanted to be Christina Milian from her 'Dip it low' video so bad 😭😭😭. Let me tell you Ciara really had me believing I had goodies. what the heck did I know 🤣
@CookWithStephh
@CookWithStephh 3 жыл бұрын
Girl me too !!! Lmao I was a child talking about "meet him at the door with nothing on" 😂😂😭😭😭
@MissBB6041
@MissBB6041 3 жыл бұрын
@@CookWithStephh 🤣🤣🤣 Don't kill me. So much of the music really influenced me
@CookWithStephh
@CookWithStephh 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissBB6041 me too lmaoo
@morganmonroee
@morganmonroee 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget “my milkshakes bring all the boys to yard” 😂😂 for some reason my mom didn’t want me singing that. And CANT forget “my neck.. my back..” 😂😂 had no clue what I was singing
@musiclover-cn7tb
@musiclover-cn7tb 2 жыл бұрын
@@CookWithStephh I was 18 singing it and beyonce songs too such beautiful days being young and free.
@jadaony4145
@jadaony4145 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but find the 2000s video vixen era fascinating
@baituljavid1238
@baituljavid1238 3 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure I was born the same year as you (1992) and I remember in the Napster/Limewire era, my sisters and I were a fan of the song "Right Thurr" by Chingy (THROWBACK), and so we found the music video....only to realize we found the "unrated" version....because APPARENTLY THEY HAD TWO VERSIONS....and we were shocked! The power dynamics at play were so clear. These men totally took advantage of these women, and shamed them as a form of control. It was clearly a toxic way of using these women, while labeling them as "hoe" in order to keep that control. So let's just say that music video exemplified the ways in which women were really put in vulnerable situations. As an adult, especially post MeToo movement, I always wondered when people would discuss how these women were used to boost a man's ego. So many rappers from this same time complain about WAP, rather than looking at their own videos. The hypocrisy is real. Like apparently its okay for them to use these women for their own benefit, and slut shamed, but its a problem when these women empower themselves? What a patriarchal world! The misogyny is real.
@feminine8766
@feminine8766 3 жыл бұрын
@Ras Heed of course your a man 🙄
@GFAprodite
@GFAprodite 3 жыл бұрын
This Makes The "N-Word" Makes Sense.
@itowilltube
@itowilltube 3 жыл бұрын
@Ras Heed what do you want accounts of? Karrine wrote her account but other people didnt like her why do you not consider that her story? it seems like you want fairness from celebrity abuse that makes non sense
@marie_84
@marie_84 3 жыл бұрын
👑👑👑 #FreeBritney 👑👑👑
@LuvKitKatt
@LuvKitKatt 3 жыл бұрын
But WAP wasn’t female empowerment at all 👎🏾
@Social_Pugatory
@Social_Pugatory 3 жыл бұрын
Born 1995 I remember how terribly they treated these women and overhearing conversations about “Supahead” in barbershops and aunties at the dining room table and cookout talk so bad about her and women like her.
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly my family nor people around me talked about her in-front of me... Or it’s probably because I was younger and born in 98. I believe you, especially with these clips of most of these people dismissing her💯
@Littlemizzanna
@Littlemizzanna 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on Tyra and how a whole generation of young girls were influenced by the standards she set on ANTM only to contradict herself on her own show with her “social experiments”. I’ll never forget the episode where she pretended to be homeless and living on the streets for a day (despite having big budget cameras following her everywhere). Or when she wore a fat suit for a day to see how people would treat her.
@tryphineshumba1181
@tryphineshumba1181 3 жыл бұрын
I remeber the fat suit 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, and it looked so fake. And she so desperately wanted to prove points.
@CherryBlossomBlyue
@CherryBlossomBlyue 3 жыл бұрын
She is a mess. Like I started watching Jessica Kobieski's vids about ANTM and looking back at it, that show is a mess.
@beans9499
@beans9499 3 жыл бұрын
American Top Model used to confuse me because she was always changing the women to be something else. Subconsciously saying you cant be you in this business you are Whatever we tell you to be.
@Noor.taylor
@Noor.taylor 2 жыл бұрын
Before I finished reading your comment, her homeless experiment was the first thing that popped into my head! Sometimes, in looking back in old clips, I really wonder how I got away with idolising her as a child. Soooo many clips I’ve rewatched are so toxic and patronising.
@A45-r8s
@A45-r8s 2 жыл бұрын
I broke your 111 likes
@Laladust
@Laladust 3 жыл бұрын
Khadija that peach makes your skin glow like a goddess. You're so pretty.
@shnn1a
@shnn1a 3 жыл бұрын
PLEEEEASE do a video on the Tyra show. I used to watch religiously when I came home from school everyday.
@availanila
@availanila 3 жыл бұрын
@Jasmine D me too, now looking back I realise Oprah was much nicer than Tyra although very tone deaf herself.
@Agryphos
@Agryphos 3 жыл бұрын
@Powerful Oprah so she deliberately promoted Dr. oz and Dr. Phil? (and more, arguably worse examples)
@tajsimms8976
@tajsimms8976 3 жыл бұрын
@Powerful Oprah Oprah tore a dead Michael Jackson down for a $$$…
@cardiiiiii
@cardiiiiii 3 жыл бұрын
@@tajsimms8976 and ? That nigga dead lol
@CourtneyzW0rld
@CourtneyzW0rld 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a 97 baby and I DEFINITELY remember the video girls. I remember wanting to look like them and I held out hope that somehow my stomach would become just as flat so I could rock hip hugger jeans lmao.
@jessicah6597
@jessicah6597 2 жыл бұрын
Sameee 😂😂😂
@leahsmith2078
@leahsmith2078 3 жыл бұрын
I applaud her for taking advantage of men who were somewhat taking advantage of her and obviously didn’t care much about her. I have to read this one.
@Deuce2994
@Deuce2994 3 жыл бұрын
1) please add Tyra because she is/was a lot 2) “people don’t exist for you” SIS that is a WORD!! More people need to hear and UNDERSTAND that! 3) this video was so interesting to me because I kinda know about video vixens but not the history because I was not “allowed” to watch music videos in my youth and we did not have cable to watch MTv so this is so fun and entertaining! Thank you so much for the work you put into these videos 🤎🤎🤎
@heatherf8751
@heatherf8751 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when Karrine's book came out and she was having interviews with Tyra, Wendy, and others. When I was younger I really didn't understand who she was, why everyone was upset with her, and how she got so famous. But rewatching the clips of the interviews that she did - all of those interviewers were sooo disrespectful and degrading to her! They were really talking to her crazy! 🙆🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️
@deborahfrederick916
@deborahfrederick916 3 жыл бұрын
Bet she is as rich as they are now. And she never has to work again.
@summer8291
@summer8291 3 жыл бұрын
@@deborahfrederick916 She's worth 4m
@marie_84
@marie_84 3 жыл бұрын
#FreeBritney
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 3 жыл бұрын
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@natanbcpc
@natanbcpc 3 жыл бұрын
Axelle and Professor Flowers' links aren't working
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 3 жыл бұрын
@@natanbcpc fixed!
@marypierce1104
@marypierce1104 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on history and rise of "nerd culture" and its intersection with sexism?
@thefriqueisin
@thefriqueisin 3 жыл бұрын
This
@elleofhearts8471
@elleofhearts8471 3 жыл бұрын
I could see this sprouting from revenge of the nerd. If this video gets made it wouldn't be complete without revenge of the nerds being mentioned when it comes to nerd culture intersecting with sexism.
@lavenderangel2655
@lavenderangel2655 3 жыл бұрын
Nerd culture has intersected with sexism? Real question.
@whitshenanigans
@whitshenanigans 2 жыл бұрын
Pls 😌
@katieusbrownius
@katieusbrownius 2 жыл бұрын
We definitely need this
@Salutations26
@Salutations26 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I am 40 and I remember that Tyra interview and it was so awful. I felt it at the time. The very next day Tyra had an interview with achingly where she acted like a dang groupie and it made everything she said to Karine a joke. I always liked Karine.
@ColorMeIn
@ColorMeIn 3 жыл бұрын
As a 90s baby who essentially grew up watching hip hop videos, I’ve always said the women in these newer music videos just simply do not compare to the “video vixen” of the early 2000s. They were so beautiful and *diverse* in their beauty that you could spot certain ones from video to video. I remember the COVV backlash and that god awful Tyra interview. Karrine Steffans deserved better.
@TheMelody15
@TheMelody15 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Despite of the hyper-oversexualized of the "Video Vixen" I will say that era did have diverse beauty. Nowadays it's just one certain look.
@allebaba1966
@allebaba1966 3 жыл бұрын
When we slowly ponder why you/we might be obsessed with the video vixen... and the simple ‘gay’, it is fine art.
@cheryl5667
@cheryl5667 3 жыл бұрын
I read Steffan's first book when I was 17 and my Mom made me throw it out. I worked as a shooter girl in a strip club because I had the idea that I would be glamorous like her (and a lot of other things in culture that gave me that idea, as it grooms girls for trafficking far before our pimps do), as if it was normalized and thinking that I could be powerful or reclaiming of my sexuality...It wasn't. It's really interesting how on one hand she glorified her circumstances because she obviously wants dignity like we all do but we know that like many women in the sex industry that due to sexual trauma they think 'might as well get paid for it.' But that doesn't change the fact that it' still is misogyny and sexual trauma. Really interesting piece and thanks so much for posting. It's 'good business' but that's the thing about 'empowerment'... it's good for HER. It's not good for the liberation of all women. It's still the commodification of women for her profit as it is with any pimp or woman who benefits directly from it.
@blue_3472
@blue_3472 3 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for Khadija’s album drop. Specially looking forward to “Sparrows on the Tiddies” and “Pencil Skirt”
@jessislistless
@jessislistless 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 2000s in Nigeria, so MTV (mtv base at the time) would play all these music videos all the time. What I remember though is the stark difference between female and male artists. In music videos by brick & lace', Missy Elliot, alicia keys, Shakira, etc. there weren't vixens, rather what I'd call a "supporting cast" of women who danced along, played besties or rivals. Till this day, this is why my family calls pussycat dolls, Nicole and the gang. In contrast, I noticed that male artists would have so many scantily clad women that if my memory serves me right, confused me. I didn't necessarily want to look like them, I wanted to dress like them. Crop tops and shorts weren't things you'd get for an 8 year old 😅I didn't see the appeal of the women dancing in bikinis much less did I understand why adults (mostly men) expected us to learn from them so we can "bust a move" at Johnny's 10th birthday.
@reginehunter
@reginehunter 3 жыл бұрын
Can you start doing hour-long videos? I promise we won’t mind 🥺
@strawberrycake777
@strawberrycake777 3 жыл бұрын
I second this
@Animefreak242
@Animefreak242 3 жыл бұрын
I third it
@lizziemcguire6810
@lizziemcguire6810 3 жыл бұрын
@@Animefreak242 I fourth this 🤓
@nanamiharuka3269
@nanamiharuka3269 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and better money for midroll ads
@persom7824
@persom7824 3 жыл бұрын
I 6th this
@ashleyk452
@ashleyk452 3 жыл бұрын
We absolutely need the Tyra series. I grew up idolizing her and then one day it just hit me “this woman is out of her damn mind” lol
@ornenow4703
@ornenow4703 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely remember this era because I was in high school and college during the Video Vixen Golden Age (showing my age looool). I remember thinking how much fun it must be to be a vixen before I learned about the misogyny. I also bought Karrine's book when it first came out. At Borders! Really showing my age now lol. I remember all of the backlash she received and I always found it interesting that everyone had all the smoke for her and none of the married rappers. They were fine using her as an object and profiting from that but not okay with her self advocacy and profiting from her own story. Go figure. Also that Tyra clip is so cringe but people still think that way, unfortunately.
@faithd2834
@faithd2834 3 жыл бұрын
Khadija is THRIVING 2021 this channel is growing so quickly!
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. She deserves it. You can tell how much effort she puts on this channel👏🏾‼️
@lovelyrozy
@lovelyrozy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you did a video on this subject. In my teens I always thought that women were over exposed in music videos but at the same time I was admiring how beautiful they all were. Such a confusing time for sure specially as a teenager. Love your videos BTW 😘
@deeb1124
@deeb1124 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the point is these actresses are filling the role of using their beauty for profit. Supply and demand, really. 22:00
@austincde
@austincde 3 жыл бұрын
I like the ladies but I don't like the male-gazey >:(
@starpasta
@starpasta 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, I read Confessions of a Video Vixen for my Black Women's Lit class in college! I ended up writing a paper on it about the objectification of women. But I didn't know much about the larger culture around video vixens then, so watching this gave me a lot of context. So glad you made this, and I'm so looking forward to part two!
@callalilly4743
@callalilly4743 3 жыл бұрын
Karrine is a queen. Her first book was fascinating. Tyra is a mess.
@anpdgbe
@anpdgbe Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t go as far as to call her a queen.. girl lets lil Wayne treat her like a side chick for life, have you seen what she’s said about him?
@noon_chai
@noon_chai 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” wasn’t mentioned in the history segment. I’ve always heard of it being a pivotal part of music video history? Learned a ton of things I’d never known about before, though, so it was still very comprehensive :)
@JulianSteve
@JulianSteve 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, but I understand why she did not mention ‘Thriller.’ At least she put a clip of ‘Thriller’👏🏾😏
@kerizella
@kerizella 3 жыл бұрын
Or Michael and Janet Jackson's "Scream" ! If I'm not mistaken, it remained the highest budget for a music video for quite a while
@paprika7930
@paprika7930 3 жыл бұрын
That and "Billie Jean".
@AriVirtual
@AriVirtual 3 жыл бұрын
Im with yall, but maybe since he's had so many videos- like it'd be a lot to talk about hard not to have half of it end up being Michael's videos?
@cheriflounory64
@cheriflounory64 3 жыл бұрын
His Billie Jean was what kicked off the playing of black artists.
@FDSignifire
@FDSignifire 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy. As a man who was in his teens and early 20s at the heyday of this Era I'm astounded at the way the culture has shifted.
@ShadowFanE102
@ShadowFanE102 3 жыл бұрын
i can't believe these videos are free to watch, I'm learning so much! ty for the education, you're an icon
@Hanavannin
@Hanavannin 3 жыл бұрын
I love how no one saw how problematic tyra was back in the day. I look back on it and 😬 eesh
@Kasia_Luna
@Kasia_Luna 3 жыл бұрын
Khadija that outfit is 🔥🔥🔥
@bvtsj
@bvtsj 3 жыл бұрын
A GODDESS 😍😍😍
@Kasia_Luna
@Kasia_Luna 3 жыл бұрын
@@bvtsj yeah forreal 😍
@Xan1120
@Xan1120 3 жыл бұрын
I really need to see the Tyra video. It sounds like it’ll be wild 😅😂
@damilareoyefeso806
@damilareoyefeso806 3 жыл бұрын
I love you. Our culture is so worthy of this reflection and analysis. Thank you! So well done. ❤️
@khadijaussi2388
@khadijaussi2388 3 жыл бұрын
Well where I'm from (Tanzania) the video vixen has started to become more prevelant from the 2010s and is still alaive and well. I feel like its quite rare actually not to find womena and luxurry being displayed in most music videos in the African music industry.
@eryabolonha
@eryabolonha 3 жыл бұрын
I only found out about this woman on KZbin, I remember as a kid hating the Tyra show, there was just something off about her that I couldn't understand. I'm glad the new generation is doing better and much more open minded
@GPerla26
@GPerla26 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh it's so interesting because I'm a latina who grew up watching videos like these and honestly, the video vixen lives on in the reguetón, bachata, salsa, etc. videos of our current times. My mother and I were actually discussing this yesterday so this video had perfect timing haha!
@alexw853
@alexw853 Жыл бұрын
You mean you're a white woman speaking Spanish, a bilingual white woman?? Haha OK. Latina is not a race and we saw how Evelyn Lozada, DaniLeigh the white Dominican, Christina Aguilera the white Salvadoran who isn't a vixen but is still a white Latino or ethnically Hispanic, Fergie the white Mexican, Jennifer Lopez the "white Puerto Rican", Vanessa Bryant the WHITE MEXICAN, who was also a video vixen at SEVENTEEN BUT NOBODY BASHES HER AND HOW KOBE DATED HER UNDERAGE, or Erica Mena was also a video vixen and is a "tan white" Dominican.. Latin is a language construct group, and is not your caste. Your legal ethnicity is Hispanic which means more non English people who owned slaves in Latin America and here in the United States and need to stop pretending to be colored or minorities when you MFs aren't.. BLACK Latinas whi cannot legally ethnically classify as Hispanic or emigrate to the United States under the 1790 white skin color laws, like Amara La Negra are NEVER PROMOTED and DON'T GET ME STARTED ABOUT HOW all of the countries in Latin America promote the white skin color and pale beauty aesthetic in these countries; and never allow Black or biracial/Mulatto Latinas to represent their countries in international beauty pageants. They're always white women of those countries especially Mexico, hella whitewashed Colombia and Venezuela!! So quit!
@alexw853
@alexw853 Жыл бұрын
We already know how WHITE Latinos or interchangeably speaking Hispanics promote harlots as well. Every ethnic group and nationality of males does this. In the white Eurasian K Pop industry the Korean pop stars are all sleeping with record executives for fame and promotion. Every performer in those girl pop bands slept with industry heads. AND THEIR MALES LOOK GIRLY TO ME. I SUSPECT SEVERAL OF THEM ARE GAY FOR PAY. This is a GLOBAL PROBLEM. You have to be primarily pale and definitely promiscuous and sexually willing and if you aren't then you get overlooked and they stall your career. Period. This is how all racial (there is only white, mixed and black), all ethnic groups and cultural groups of males are. They're ALL THE SAME no matter what the race, ethnicity and culture is and they are even preying upon minors and adult women and little boys in the religious communities and congregations. This isn't only in the music.
@Daizy10231023
@Daizy10231023 3 жыл бұрын
As much as the Video Vixen was part of my life and "femininity training" FLOABW....once they started appearing in videos in the 2000's, I remember telling my 12-14 year old self "Yep, we're outta the game". Like I looked so different from all of those women, it felt like I should just hang up my jersey and stop trying to be "cute" because it'd never be enough. It truly did a number on my self-esteem. I really wonder what I'd think about myself (and what other women and men would think about each other) if music videos celebrated the normal black bodies we're in.
@bestofbrittani
@bestofbrittani 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in ‘96. I wanted to be a video vixen so bad 😂😂😂 I love you videos!
@spriddlez
@spriddlez 3 жыл бұрын
I am 30 but this is all new to me... but I also didn't watch music videos or listen to hip hop much as a child. I love the connection to modern day Instagram models - I can totally see it.
@viiamor9159
@viiamor9159 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the other half of this video. If possible, could you do a video on the history of light skin privilege and why it's important to not be "colorblind" or minimize the plight of darker skin black people. Specifically women. I feel like this younger generation is unaware that besides the perks of being a "house slave" there were other institutions and rules exclusively to elevate the status of the light skin black. Could you also include the blue vein society and that good ol brown paper bag test and anything else you are able to dig up, because there is much I still don't know. Love you, Queen! 😘❤
@leobasca9463
@leobasca9463 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that people felt comfortable using the phrase “kiss and tell” in relation to this situation tells everything, so wild to me
@tashaturner4609
@tashaturner4609 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge Beatles fan...thank you for including my boys!! A hard days night was like the first musical....well maybe not first- but it was hilarious!
@annierichter8250
@annierichter8250 3 жыл бұрын
"Why are we going through the history of music videos?" Listen, you can go through a step by step history of paper bags and I would listen.
@KhadijaMbowe
@KhadijaMbowe 3 жыл бұрын
LOOOL "Now in order to understand why we have the paper bags we do today we need to first go back to the early 1700s..." I can't take myself seriously
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 3 жыл бұрын
@@KhadijaMbowe Although at this point, the more I learn, I wouldn't be surprised if you made a video about paper bags and I go "of _course_ they were invented for racist reasons" halfway through.
@segiitaff6421
@segiitaff6421 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolfs2165 i don’t know if you meant that, but i heard of the 'paper bag test' to see if someone is light enough, so yeah lol
@ninfa.estrada5281
@ninfa.estrada5281 3 жыл бұрын
I would watch that it sounds interesting lol
@deborahfrederick916
@deborahfrederick916 3 жыл бұрын
For real, though.
@VeronicAM313
@VeronicAM313 3 жыл бұрын
I'm ready for your analysis on Black and Black Latina video vixen women as well as a Tyra video. Tyra overreacted with Tiffany and I'm still pissed Tiffany was kicked out.
@lokichocobo
@lokichocobo 3 жыл бұрын
Khadija: unless you count my skin *wink* me: *covering my face* *giggles* don't ever feel bad about your jokes, your delivery is on point
@kilimanjaro5537
@kilimanjaro5537 3 жыл бұрын
I loved it 👌🏾
@NatashaRaisorGlam
@NatashaRaisorGlam 3 жыл бұрын
I was so excited for this video. I modeled and did music videos in the 1990’s and 2000’s you are so spot on. What also ruined the video vixen’s money was the at home Cam Girls. They messed up modeling because they where doing XXX stuff, live on webcams for free or $10.00 an hour at a studio.
@romanaa7070
@romanaa7070 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy this is ur video right after I came across a video of tyra banks dogging her out in an "interview" which led me to find more videos of her and order her book which I'm currently reading. What a gift 😌😌😊
@jazmynlikethetea_0.0
@jazmynlikethetea_0.0 3 жыл бұрын
“Could you imagine paying almost $30 for a cd right now?” Me, a kpop Stan: uhhhhhhhh yes I can 😭
@rosedalinevaletine6931
@rosedalinevaletine6931 3 жыл бұрын
Girl, you invest in your happiness. Don’t feel ashamed.
@rfldss89
@rfldss89 3 жыл бұрын
You do you, but like... why a cd? Their even worse quality than spotify on low setting. Is it just a matter of financially supporting the artists?
@thextremekittenmdj
@thextremekittenmdj 3 жыл бұрын
@@rfldss89 CDs are better quality than Spotify lol, and not everyone wants to be on their phone/computer all the time
@jazmynlikethetea_0.0
@jazmynlikethetea_0.0 3 жыл бұрын
@@rfldss89 I buy them because I like them, I also want to help my fav with their chartings and I collect them. Plus in kpop (from my experience) albums are more than just cd’s they also come with “goodies” and the are beautifully designed so personally it’s worth it💜
@jazmynlikethetea_0.0
@jazmynlikethetea_0.0 3 жыл бұрын
@@rosedalinevaletine6931 💜💜💜
@kaysha
@kaysha 3 жыл бұрын
One booking agent once promised a girl she would be in my video if she had sex with him. I discovered that during a show where she came backstage to thank me for choosing her for the video. But I never heard about her and the video was out already. So I watch the drama unfold between them two... Great video. Would you say that the video Vixens are now the female rappers themselves?
@britb4544
@britb4544 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a polarizing difference between being placed in a video for male gaze, vs developing your own video concept and chosing to objectify yourself. That’s my take on it.
@AbaitheyBeauty
@AbaitheyBeauty 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kaysha, a fan here I grew up listening to your music ❤️❤️ unfortunately I think they are controlling their stories and their bodies by choosing to be the ones to exploit it but yet the outcome still doesn’t change... the trauma and damage, the judgement I guess
@tryphineshumba1181
@tryphineshumba1181 3 жыл бұрын
Kaysha we miss you. I remeber we used to watch your music videos on Channel O and MTV Base and u were our crush in Africa....plz drop a banger soon 🤭🤭
@CherryBlossomBlyue
@CherryBlossomBlyue 3 жыл бұрын
Thats messed up. No I wouldnt say that. I feel like Female rappers are in control of their own image. I also think that they aren't making vids to cater to the male gaze but because thats there brand
@CherryBlossomBlyue
@CherryBlossomBlyue 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbaitheyBeauty I dont feel like they are exploiting themselves. More taking control of their image
@basementkid
@basementkid 3 жыл бұрын
the biggest change is the fact people moved from tv to youtube in the 2000s. the impact of music videos didnt have the reach and influenced it used to have anymore. Great video Khadija
@chrisfaisonthegoldennerd4877
@chrisfaisonthegoldennerd4877 3 жыл бұрын
Okay honestly this video makes me happy! As someone who grew up in the 2000's (90's baby), and had his musical pop culture awakening in 99, there is a lot of...content in the 2000's when it comes to Black culture (waits for someone in the universe to do something on 106 and Park). Video Vixens are an extension of the muse trope imo (which can have sexist undertones if you are not areful), and Black video vixen's were...a loaded topic (As seen by the fact that this long video is just part 1!). Coming up, even as a gay kid I knew ALL the vixen's names. They were stars. I don't want to repeat what you just said, but it was like if you had Melissa in your video, you were WINNING. The south and uncut videos were big forces in the day (the south still has a bit of a chokehold on rap albeit a little more diverse again). I remember watching the docs about video vixens, and like you mentioned we are in a much better space to analyze them. It's unfortunate how some of these women wanted to distance themselves because they knew how toxic the work environment was. Melissa likely never dealt with SEVERE effects of the industry (I say severe because she was a woman, who despite having a sizable platform and agency, in an industry that doesn't...protect...women), and it's understandable that she didn't want to associate herself with certain parts as that could lead to bad situations for her. Still I remember Melissa getting rumors thrown at her (it was either her or Buffy that had been deemed "crazy" on forums and blog comment sections back in the day) post her career, and it felt like a smear campaign all because she had said something remotely critical about the industry. But there is a level of disdain there for video hoes. For YEAR, They were the butt of jokes (along with "gold diggers" and the women who associate with athletes). That combination of sex work plus the 2000's growing vile attitudes toward women in "celebrity spaces" (So many videos coming out about the women of the 2000's as of late), plus just plain old mysogynoir...a perfect storm for devaluing women in these spaces. I need to rewatch those documentaries but I feel like not enough of a critical lens was put on the rappers and their own cohorts. Actually I think post Me too era is the perfect time to return to the topic! The last thing I want to say in this already too long comment, is that I look at Karrine like I look at Megan Fox. Both spoke up in an industry that does not protect them but valued them solely on their looks and beauty. Once they went against the grain, you saw just how...easy it was for the industry at large to shun them. For Karrine, it is worse because she is a Black woman in an industry that is largely...problematic...especially at the time she did what she did. I don't know. Again thank you for doing this. Took me down a whole trip of memory lane, and adding to a very much needed conversation! Apologies for the long comment.
@caitlynguy193
@caitlynguy193 3 жыл бұрын
Please do that video on Tyra, watching back some of the clips from her old show is crazy to see.
@sun_yu_lu
@sun_yu_lu 3 жыл бұрын
grew up watching this videos and it’s kind of scary to think about how much i internalized about them. i think it 100% contributes to the sexualization of Black and latina women. i think i rejected seeing myself as a sexual person bc the only version of sexuality i saw was from a male gaze and i knew i couldn’t replicate that. it sucks to look back and see how normalized all of this was and i’m really glad that things have changed so much
@h0rriphic
@h0rriphic 3 жыл бұрын
*”...one of the first ‘men aint shit’ anthems...”* 😂👌 love this
@xKT
@xKT 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a Tyra video! Some of her show topics have a lasting negative impression on me. One of the standouts in particular was the way she had handled having a furry couple on her show, making them the endless butt of the joke. I have a close friend who is in the furry community and I try to be as open-minded as I can so that is just burned into my brain.
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 3 жыл бұрын
Let me hurry up and read Confessions of a Video Vixen The 2000's weren't ready!! 👏
@Hawkmoon1981
@Hawkmoon1981 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh child the video vixens! I'm from Trinidad and remember when Jay Z filmed here and all the local outrage. Fast forward a decade or so and everyone was super-happy when Nicki Minaj came down to shoot Pound The Alarm - definitely a cultural shift. Can't wait for part 2 - we didn't have cable in my house growing up so I only discovered the BET Uncut-style videos later on. Tip Drill is STILL grimy even when I look at it today - then there was Disco Inferno by 50 Cent and P***y Poppin by Ludacris and I was just like 👀
@rachelboateng8839
@rachelboateng8839 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness I’m blown away by how thorough your references page is. I really respect it.
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