The Rise and Fall of the Janissary.

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@AlexAnastaso
@AlexAnastaso 9 ай бұрын
Idiotic youtube
@spectre7254
@spectre7254 9 ай бұрын
as Roman Empire who have Praetorians, The Ottomans have Janissaries. Both effective in combat but ruthless and corrupt in politics
@hansgunsche2262
@hansgunsche2262 9 ай бұрын
Actually the early Pretorian Guard was good But mid too late not soo affective and weren’t elite but more like paramilitary
@Rude_Thunder
@Rude_Thunder 9 ай бұрын
Also Samurais in Japan
@KamburMaymun
@KamburMaymun 9 ай бұрын
@@hansgunsche2262Like the video explains, Jannisaries were good at first too. They had no connection with policy and economy until the early 17th century.
@ram_sankar
@ram_sankar 9 ай бұрын
wagner
@goodomen5801
@goodomen5801 9 ай бұрын
But need a lot of em against small armies in Europe
@alkha4711
@alkha4711 9 ай бұрын
Syrian here. We have a family tree dating back to the 1500s, I had two ancestors who served as janissaries either during Bayezid or Selim’s reign
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076 9 ай бұрын
In short your very ancestors were forced to be a muslim
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 9 ай бұрын
Nice may Allah reward your family who served Allah though does great Muslim leaders who changed the world ameen 🙏
@shpigenzig
@shpigenzig 8 ай бұрын
@@Uzair_Of_Babylon465janissaries were nothing at the end. Greedy and hunger for power! That’s nothing for islam or muslims!
@y.p.9797
@y.p.9797 3 ай бұрын
​@@Uzair_Of_Babylon465Served allah by killing other Christians 💀?
@umitencho
@umitencho 2 ай бұрын
@@y.p.9797 They were slaves so I feel sorry for them. They didn't chose that life.
@ileanaacacostaacosta1813
@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 10 ай бұрын
Mahmmood II has very powerful and personal reasons for this drastic move When he was a child or a teen in 1808 there was a Janissary revolt he was then the Ottoman crown Prince and janissaries entered Topkapi palace and he had to hide inside the room of a kalfa or servant who saved his life in the harem that i believe he never forgave or forget what the jannusary did and he decided that if he became sultan, he will finish them off foreverand thats what he did
@abdullahassaffah
@abdullahassaffah 7 ай бұрын
He was a idiot and a weak ruler who made ottoman worse
@bill5931
@bill5931 7 ай бұрын
@@abdullahassaffah Do you not fear Allah to speak like that? 1. Sultan Mahmud II Han Hz (RA) was not an idiot or a weak ruler at all. 2. If a Khalifa or even just a righteous Muslim ruler was to make mistakes or something you don’t call them an idiot and a weak ruler. Fear Allah. Remember that a lot of the history available out here on the internet is from sources of the ENEMIES of the Ottoman Caliphate which wish nothing but for the Muslims to not rise again, and no better way to do that then corrupt their history and make them to forget about they’re Ottoman Khalifa… Why do you think 97% of all these so called shaykhs or scholars never speak of Ottomans when they are literally our MOST RECENT caliphate, it’s all a propaganda. Also you have no idea how much good he and all the other Sultans done for the Ummah, they were Awliya !!
@meshoyahya6290
@meshoyahya6290 10 ай бұрын
This is an underrated channel, LITERALLY
@RIHLAND
@RIHLAND 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@HisarHalil
@HisarHalil Жыл бұрын
Nice, clean & simple 👍
@RIHLAND
@RIHLAND Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@tredarc
@tredarc 10 ай бұрын
as a turkish guy who study history, i can tell that your videos are awesome
@tredarc
@tredarc 10 ай бұрын
please keep making content about ottoman empire
@divinewind6313
@divinewind6313 9 ай бұрын
Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
@bacco7_985
@bacco7_985 9 ай бұрын
There is a very sad song in Serbia called "Janicar". It is about warrior who is burning his native village and in that madness he recognize his own mother
@CarlStein
@CarlStein 8 ай бұрын
Serbians are being Serbians by making anti-Turkish propaganda. Like cmon man do Europeans really thing a Sultan would let his soldiers to burn his new lands
@asadhameed4313
@asadhameed4313 7 ай бұрын
Damn
@fratsan9979
@fratsan9979 6 ай бұрын
I'm reminded of a greek tragedy where one was dismembered by one's own mother, both are horrific.
@ZhanTodorov
@ZhanTodorov 3 ай бұрын
We have similar stories in Bulgaria. It's funny how glorified the enslavement of our people is in Turkey. Ask them about the devshirme (blood tax) and they'll act as if the process of abducting children from their parents was somehow doing the victims a favor. Peak comedy, but that's what you get from a islamist/nationalistic dictatorship.
@cenktuneygok8986
@cenktuneygok8986 Ай бұрын
Janissaries were royal guards. For your village to be burned by them, you must have personnal issues with the sultan himself, which is ridiculous. Realistically speaking a European peasant wouldn't even see a single janissary in his entire life. They would leave Konstantiniyye only when the sultan himself marches to war, and they would never leave his side.
@karetsin8700
@karetsin8700 11 ай бұрын
great video!
@RIHLAND
@RIHLAND 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@turan_kaya
@turan_kaya Жыл бұрын
Always change a broken system is as true as never change a running system
@victorn5870
@victorn5870 10 ай бұрын
Seems just like the praetorian guard
@Newmusellemihayat
@Newmusellemihayat 10 ай бұрын
You"ll find many aspects of the ottoman empire are just byzantine traditions
@Pajserbrigada
@Pajserbrigada 9 ай бұрын
Pretorians were not brainwashed kidnaped as childeren to become blood thrsty monsters
@BarlasofIndus
@BarlasofIndus 8 ай бұрын
​@@Newmusellemihayat Praetorians were in united Roman state, East Rome had the Varangian Gaurd from vikings
@Itsme-tl3le
@Itsme-tl3le 10 ай бұрын
as a Turkish it is a %100 correct video
@mehmetopkaya
@mehmetopkaya 9 ай бұрын
What is your problem?​@hiooxkrmagkis9323
@Emi-zx2yt
@Emi-zx2yt 8 ай бұрын
@HardCore_Islamist Okay now we are greek too?? Then where the hell Ottoman descendentes today. Please stop writing crap! You're so intimidated by Turks you're constantly making up bullshit about our history. Just stop ok. Mind your own business.
@doktorlivesey5296
@doktorlivesey5296 8 ай бұрын
​@HardCore_Islamistwhat are you talking about? Why you say modern turks are greekified?
@Yasin52.
@Yasin52. 8 ай бұрын
@HardCore_Islamist ??
@flyingrainfrog898
@flyingrainfrog898 10 ай бұрын
I think it was Ahmed the Third who removed the Devshirme System not the Janissaries themselves made it so that people who wanted could become janissaries which filled the rank with criminals who just want to get their escape and as Janissaries were influential they just revolted at any little inconveniece like a spoiled brat I think letting everybody become Janissaries was a big part in the Ottoman decline.
@kermi4654
@kermi4654 10 ай бұрын
Devshirme system was removed by Mahmud II
@srd895
@srd895 10 ай бұрын
What? No. Janissaries were removed by Mahmud II.@@kermi4654
@alkha4711
@alkha4711 9 ай бұрын
There wasn’t a devshirme system being implemented by the time of Ahmed the Third as there was no need for it, janissaries were no longer recruited using the traditional system and the position largely became hereditary where you could be a janissary if your father was a janissary. They exploited the empire and were directly responsible for the murder of various sultans. Then again the janissaries themselves weren’t really janissaries by that time anyway.
@MZeki-gw2xg
@MZeki-gw2xg 9 ай бұрын
Born in the fire and blood of battle; so too were they extinguished
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 9 ай бұрын
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁😄
@BarlasofIndus
@BarlasofIndus 8 ай бұрын
Uzair of Babylon, find you in every video
@sulaymankindi
@sulaymankindi Жыл бұрын
Uthmaan II was strangled, not stabbed
@Nilvolentibusje
@Nilvolentibusje 10 ай бұрын
correct. Spilling Royal blood was not allowed in Ottoman culture.
@MCMLXXXVICCXII
@MCMLXXXVICCXII 10 ай бұрын
1. Its not "Uthman" its "Osman". 2. He got beaten, raped, got stabbed then strangeled.
@sulaymankindi
@sulaymankindi 10 ай бұрын
@@MCMLXXXVICCXII sure, did that fantasy turn you on? Keep it to yourself
@sulaymankindi
@sulaymankindi 10 ай бұрын
@@Nilvolentibusje That's something basic you'd expect someone commenting on Ottoman history to know. Whenever I think I've found a good history channel, it turns out to be just a copy and paste with no proper research :(
@sulaymankindi
@sulaymankindi 10 ай бұрын
@@MCMLXXXVICCXII muted
@swhip897
@swhip897 4 ай бұрын
Great final quote ❤
@Engkare
@Engkare 9 ай бұрын
They just Ottoman version of praetorian guard.
@jjeanniton
@jjeanniton 9 ай бұрын
Tanzîmat😊😊😊
@adlmnop1147
@adlmnop1147 9 ай бұрын
Ottomans were very adaptive as far as fighting tactics. Very knowledgeable on the history of Rome and Alexander the Great. They apply the same tactics as Romans did . The Janissaries were Christian Boys . Mainly Albanians and Bosnians.
@iwatchwithnoads7480
@iwatchwithnoads7480 9 ай бұрын
Orphaned of Christian parents, they grew up muslim. They weren't Christians
@zymerkukalaj3410
@zymerkukalaj3410 9 ай бұрын
At one time they where all Albanian
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
Not true, mainly Serbian and Greek
@Dr.Darkness007
@Dr.Darkness007 9 ай бұрын
They are like samurai version of ottoman empire
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 Ай бұрын
Imagine if they Survived the Ottoman's Fall, they would have been like the Daimyos of the Middle East.
@johnmanole4779
@johnmanole4779 Жыл бұрын
00:45 Mamlukes: are we a joke to you?
@Aras-em6nz
@Aras-em6nz Жыл бұрын
mamlukes are the rullers of the empire while janissaris are just the millitary side of the empire
@johnmanole4779
@johnmanole4779 Жыл бұрын
@@Aras-em6nz both were slave soldiers that is what I was referring too. The janissary weren't unique.
@rudman97
@rudman97 10 ай бұрын
Jannisary were infantry regiment mostly, mounted or; dismounted. They came from Christian serf/peasant families. Mamelukes were cavalrymen. They came as slaves sold by mongol khanates. They were from subjugated/vanquished/conquered horse riding nomadic tribesmen@@johnmanole4779
@fallenhein4448
@fallenhein4448 10 ай бұрын
​@johnmanole4779 one small difference mamlukes gained their freedom after their training was complete while janissaries serves all their life
@cv4809
@cv4809 10 ай бұрын
As i have heard, the Ottomans copied the practice of young slave soldiers from the Mamluks
@serhatilhan2025
@serhatilhan2025 9 ай бұрын
West never understand the concept of what is slavery or not in the Ottoman empire. Contrary to what is said in the video as Jannisaries are technically slaves, they can at most be considered as servants with paid salaries and a lot of different rights. They were not the equivalent of the black slaves working on the cotton fields of Americas.
@justkidding5016
@justkidding5016 6 ай бұрын
West always looked the rest of the world in their own pov.
@ZhanTodorov
@ZhanTodorov 3 ай бұрын
No, but the whole family of a janissary could be exterminated if they refused to send their son to be a "technical slave". Slavery implies a lack of choice, and that's exactly what the enslaved people of the Balkans lacked.
@serhatilhan2025
@serhatilhan2025 3 ай бұрын
@@ZhanTodorov Hello, We can not evaluate the social norms of 15th, 16th and 17th centuries with the social norms of todays democratic values. In those times the free will was not a norm. For example it was not even easy for you to leave your village and leaving your landlord behind and saying from now on I will work for another landlord. At that time balcans were under the control of Ottoman Empire. And people (Christian, muslims and others) living in that area were subject to different taxation systems. And christians giving boys to the imperial army was the part of the taxation. It is like today, if there is a need for your military you have to take your arms and join the military. You (Today) still do not have any choice against of this rule but this does not make you a slave either. So imperial army was very careful when implementing (again I am saying according to that time norms) this taxation. It was only taking 1 or 2 boys from every village trying not crumble social life in the village. Usually if you have numuerous boys in your family then you were more likely to give one of them. Maybe not always but most of the time families were very happy since they know their boys will have a very good military career in the imperial army. And make a lot of money. I am saying again Jannisarries were not equivalent of the black people who does not have any right at all when working on the cotton fields of usa. One more thing do you really think a slave army could be so strong, succeesful and disciplined and fight like lions when required ? Look my friend, slavery was being implemented in the Ottoman empire, no need to lie. Like it was being implemented in most of the west empires. Even in the Bible, jesus talks in numerous texts about how you should treat your slaves. There were slaves in the ottoman (compared to west still in very low amounts) but jannisaries were not slaves sorry! They can only be considered as the honorable soldiers of the heroic Turkish army.
@ZhanTodorov
@ZhanTodorov 3 ай бұрын
@@serhatilhan2025 Your long winded explanation to why it is that you personally are in favor of child exploitation, enslavement and etc. is your business my friend. I couldn't care less of your personal view of the matter. As someone hailing from the people who were enslaved, genocided, turkified and sexually exploited for a period of 500 years, I will continue to hold all those acts as appalling, inhuman, barbaric and will continue to despise the Ottoman empire with all my soul for as long as I live. You on the other hand, judging by your name ,are free to glorify it, but don't complain when people do the same in terms of Israel and what they do in their own country, to the Palestinians, or what the Chinese do on their plot of land, against the Uygurs . After all, as you said previously "it's just how it is bro!". That's how the world works in those places. Let Allah sort it out, just how he sorted out us with the blood tax, a handful of genocides and etc.. It's just how the world works bro. Don't worry about it lol
@Rayanenature
@Rayanenature 9 ай бұрын
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@RashidAli-fb3se
@RashidAli-fb3se 9 ай бұрын
sultan Osman the second could have suppressed the janissary revolt but he didn't because he was soft and wanted to convince them peacefully which gave the janissaries the time to lunch a sudden attack against the palace and kidnap and strangle sultan Osman the reason I say that sultan Osman could have suppressed the revolt is because when sultan Mehmed the conqueror ascended the throne due to his father sultan Murad abdicating the throne for the first time the janissaries revolted which forced sultan Murad to return to the throne and suppress the janissaries revolt and he used both Turkmen soldiers and regular troops like the Timar Sipahi and palace as well as yaya and muselem cavalry Azab and akinji soldiers while the palace six divisions that where created to counter the janissaries where not created until the reign of sultan Mehmed the conqueror but that is after he reigned permanently I mean after his father died as in after abdicating two times and before abdicating for a third time he died which the sultan created the six palace divisions or in other worlds called kipakulu sipahis in order to counter the janissaries which is why it was easier for sultan Salim I Bayazid II and sultan Suliman I to suppress the janissaries revolt in Bayazid's case the only reason the janissaries succeeded in making his son Salim succeed the throne is because sultan Salim had both his provinces provincial army as well as the Crimean tartars as well as the janissaries and some other elements of the ottoman army and don't forget after sultan Osmans death Sultan Murad wasn't as soft as him and thus he used the six palace divisions to brutally suppress the janissaries rebellion and thus put them in their place but he was the last sultan to do so after him most other sultans were soft and thus they never crushed the janissaries due to not wanting blushed to happen.
@Rayanenature
@Rayanenature 9 ай бұрын
亡くなったイスラム教徒全員に神のご慈悲がありますように。
@HowSo1055
@HowSo1055 9 ай бұрын
Ottoman Janissaries are VERY similar to Pakistan Army.
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
Janissaries mostly consisted of Serbs and other christians.
@trireme5276
@trireme5276 8 ай бұрын
​@@Greensanctuary-c4w Devshirme system ended in 1648
@BarlinTokyo-lp6bk
@BarlinTokyo-lp6bk 5 ай бұрын
Muslim black blood. Desperate ambitious
@alitezerdi7782
@alitezerdi7782 5 ай бұрын
They recruted boys from country's,they conquired,Serbs,Greeks,Albanians.Like the Roman empire they did the same.
@chicagogyrl4846
@chicagogyrl4846 7 ай бұрын
These boys were not “recruited “! They were kidnapped!!
@xxali-_-riyadhxx936
@xxali-_-riyadhxx936 7 ай бұрын
Many gave their kids cuz they got paid
@Kaan_Gokturk
@Kaan_Gokturk 6 ай бұрын
Didn't western countries kidnap other people? For example from Africa?
@Bizmyurt
@Bizmyurt 7 ай бұрын
The reasons for Yeni Çerı were 2; One to have them as "slaves" and Sultan guard units for that you could not have Muslim slaves. Second they shouldn't have connection to any one or any where so they wouldn't be corrupt. But that is how they ended becoming the 2 reasons they should solve!
@schlirf
@schlirf 2 ай бұрын
The Praetorian guard.
@87mhd
@87mhd 9 ай бұрын
A revolutionary idea just like the Mamluks of Turkic origin centuries before
@kermi4654
@kermi4654 10 ай бұрын
Jannisaries were not slaves.Probably the word "Kul" was translated to "slave" but thw word kul was more like kinda "if you help me i help you" between sultan and his people.Also not just jannisaries but others also called "kul" (ottomam citizens i mean)
@srd895
@srd895 10 ай бұрын
No. They are. But slave doesnt means slave. Janissaries are slaves but different slave from america or different from ship slaves of different from concubines all of them are slaves but each one is different. Being ship slave is one of the worst things can human be but being a devshirme and becoming a grand vizier? You can be strongest man in the world. Being concubine of the sultan? You can be strongest women in the world. Janissaries are technically slaves because they are taken and forcibly educated in schools and become direct slaves of sultan but authority to the slaves are nearly little. Think it like being duchy in Holy Roman Empire, you are a duke, emperor is your liege but in same time it isnt, you can act like independent duchy but still Emperor is your liege.
@kermi4654
@kermi4654 10 ай бұрын
@@srd895 Yeah and it made them "kul"!This word probably has an lost in transition.Like we turks call California as province actually its a state(another lost in transition)So if we called them slave its means they cannot to be palace guards in terms.Or they cannot be revolted but even they first years they revolted against Mehmed II the "Buçuktepe revolt" and even sultan abdicated im favour his fahter the Murad II.
@srd895
@srd895 10 ай бұрын
Ben de Türküm kul un ne demek olduğunu biliyorum. Köle demelerenin sebebi kul u yanlış çevirmeleir değil, sultan "kullarım" dediğinde aslında "tebaam" der. Kul demek daha çok Sultanın halkı demek. Yeniçerilere köle demelerinin sebebi kulu yanlış çevirmeleri değil teknin olarak köle olmaları. Ama köle olarak diğer kölelere kıyasla çok daha özgürler öyle ki dediğin gibi Sultana karşı bile isyan ederler ya da Sultandan bile güçlü olacak bir vezir olabilirler. Batı köleliğinde hiç bir köle efendisinden güçlü olabilir mi? Hayır. Ama Osmanlıda olabiliyordu. Bu yüzden teknik olarak köle olsalarda bu kölelik batıdakinden farklı.@@kermi4654
@kermi4654
@kermi4654 10 ай бұрын
@@srd895 🙄🙄 seni allaha havale ediyorum kardeşim iyi günler
@Muthafuquer
@Muthafuquer 9 ай бұрын
Bro is yapping Wikipedia
@hilmiyusof6368
@hilmiyusof6368 9 ай бұрын
So Janissaries fought Dracula?
@BarlasofIndus
@BarlasofIndus 8 ай бұрын
Yup
@TofiSerb
@TofiSerb 10 ай бұрын
Serbian ferocious heroic 12 knights killed ottoman sultan Murad the first in Kosovo battle 1389. This janissaries did not save Murad and did not protect him from Serbs you mentioned dude.
@srd895
@srd895 10 ай бұрын
This is not clear. Some sources says it is different, some sources says it just fell from horse, some sources says it is assassinated. But i think you have nationalist perspective to history. Saying "heroic 12 knights" and presenting uncertain information as if it were certain is not a true perspective for reading history.
@TofiSerb
@TofiSerb 10 ай бұрын
@@srd895 Leonidas and 300 Spartan warriors are where heroes???
@srd895
@srd895 10 ай бұрын
According to western perspective they were. According to eastern perspective they werent. Both perspective is subjective. And you cant read any history with subjective perspective.@@TofiSerb
@ozan7427
@ozan7427 9 ай бұрын
@@TofiSerb no guy can jump w 12 knights to sultans tent. In our version while he inspects battlefield he acts like a wounded soldier on ground then rushes and stabs the sultan. Unlike ur historians the guys that talks about ours are soldiers or people that are near to sultan.
@doktorlivesey5296
@doktorlivesey5296 8 ай бұрын
But they saved first beyazid. And he conquered the land of serbs.
@Northman46
@Northman46 6 ай бұрын
These people are probably like mamluks when they feel strong and smart they will do a coup
@ephilippos
@ephilippos 5 ай бұрын
Fact: Constantinople fell to the Turks in 1453, so 1300’s, the stolen Greek & other Balkan boys were taken further into Anatolia & not instabul for their training and conversion as you rightly mention…By mif 15th century, Constsntinople was still Byzantium, part of the Eastern Roman empire, run by mostly Greeks, italians etc etc
@syedalimujtaba6665
@syedalimujtaba6665 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like PAK Army
@satriayudha9953
@satriayudha9953 9 ай бұрын
They don't learn from the mamluk
@ahnafabir-pi6eu
@ahnafabir-pi6eu 2 ай бұрын
6:20 what are you talking about? The hereditary janissary power should have never formed in the first place...the leader should have looked into it. Anyway that's what happens when they fight and live for power not for the pleasure of Almighty Allah.
@zymerkukalaj3410
@zymerkukalaj3410 9 ай бұрын
Korpulu was Albanian !! Most of them where Albanian from the 17th century onward.
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
Not true, most of them were Serbs and other christians.
@zymerkukalaj3410
@zymerkukalaj3410 8 ай бұрын
@@Greensanctuary-c4w Absolutely not true read history. Serbs were low class citizens just as they are now. Slavs who migrate to the Ballkans.
@sauceempty418
@sauceempty418 5 ай бұрын
Its not j its prononced y like german j. Yeniseri
@md.shariqulreedoy5096
@md.shariqulreedoy5096 9 ай бұрын
Those children and their parents should have been thankful to the sultan for the sultan's kindness and helping mind.
@navinkv7024
@navinkv7024 9 ай бұрын
What kindness and helping mind? That bachabaz sultan found a way to have a slave s**cide squad consisting of kids belonging to conquered people of other religions and used them to commit "human rights violations" (just as West Pakistan did to East Pakistan) on their own blood relations. Later on it backfired and Ottomans paid the price for their karma!
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
They had to kill their parents later when they attacked their hometowns and villages. Nothing great about kidnapping children.
@bill5931
@bill5931 10 ай бұрын
A lot of this isn’t true… Alot of it’s sources are from the historical side of the enemies of the Ottomans which lie a lot.
@Fokas-n8t
@Fokas-n8t 10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah sure! Those nasty Greeks must have lied a lot saying bad things about those poor Ottomans.... funny thing how that they convinced Hungarians, Romanians, Croatians, Serbians, Bulgarians, Armenians, Georgians and even fellow muslim Arabs to coordinate altogether and tell the exact same "lies" with those nasty Greeks! LOL! The amount of mental gymnastics you need to do to avoid the hard realities of history will never cease to cause amazement. To note now that the video actually omitted the biggest part of Ottoman violence in order to tone it done and become palatable is needless - one wonders if these people do the same for Nazi WWII crimes or Communist crimes and why the feel the need to avoid telling the whole nasty truth for the case of Ottomans. Maybe Turkey's membership in NATO since the late 1950s had a lot to do with the concealment of the despicable Ottoman history, not really a history but rather a criminal record.
@03MauserTurc
@03MauserTurc 9 ай бұрын
Just saying that some writer say that devshirme was a brutal taxation of Christian children and most western and a little bit Islamic writers use this version when writing about ottoman and janissary system. But if we look into some Muslim writers, they will say its a system of taking the Christian orphans of the man who fought the war against ottoman during their rise.
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
Yes they turn everything upside down to look noble. In fact they were ruthless and limited.
@Subrankur
@Subrankur 9 ай бұрын
Great hill land.
@awoweataro9932
@awoweataro9932 9 ай бұрын
You know nothing about history sultan Murad time Istanbul (Constantinople ) was not yet conquered
@tmmisunderstood
@tmmisunderstood 9 ай бұрын
we are our own enemy 🙃
@FAHAD-el6ic
@FAHAD-el6ic 9 ай бұрын
Who will lend to Allah a good loan which Allah will multiply many times over? It is Allah ˹alone˺ who decreases and increases ˹wealth˺. And to Him you will ˹all˺ be returned.
@anionchloriou3483
@anionchloriou3483 9 ай бұрын
It's just cruelty out of political correctness not to mention how hateful was this institution of jenissaries and devsirme to the christian enslaved population of Balkans, especially the Greeks, the Serbs, the Bulgarians who were suffering by the mandatory kidnap of their children. Songs and traditions and historical narrations are recording this suffering and trying now some persons from the West to justify this turkish atrocity is totally unacceptable! Plus, how is possible not to mention their failure to face the Greeks and the Serbians who formed the first christian indepentant and the first christian autonomous state respectively after revolutions?
@shehryarashraf5840
@shehryarashraf5840 9 ай бұрын
It still happens today, only now its called mandatory conscription. also call the draft in some places
@anionchloriou3483
@anionchloriou3483 9 ай бұрын
It has nothing to do with the conscription nowdays! No one is abducting you during conscription, you are going back, it's not only about the minority boys and of course no one enforces you to change your religion!@@shehryarashraf5840
@Ege-ip7xi
@Ege-ip7xi 9 ай бұрын
Güzel kardeşim madem size acılar çektirdik sizin çocuklarınızı zorla kaçırdık size 500 yıl kadar hükmettik ne kültürünüzü ne de dilinizi yok ettik vergi verip asker vermeniz istemek dışında hiçbirşey yapılmadı ve sen türkler bize acı çektirdi diyorsun batılı devletler 40-50 yıl kadar işgal ettiği yerler bugün bile kendi dilini kullanırken sana bu özgürlüğü sağlayan atalarıma hakaret etmen cahilliktir... zorla çocukları kaçırma olayı ise çoğu aile kendi rızasıyla veriyordu orduya çiftçinin zaten 8-9 çocuğu var en azından bir kaçını türklere vereyimde biryerlere gelirse bizi zenginlikle yaşatır diye kendi rızasıyla veriyor
@ozan7427
@ozan7427 9 ай бұрын
Kidnaps happened and probably bunch of forced taking of teenagers too but u need to realize after ottomans were successful even balkan nations bribed officials so their children would be taken. Janissary were more than mere soldier because taken children would send to school then they could be even 2. powerful person on ottoman empire which is a Veziriazam.
@Emi-zx2yt
@Emi-zx2yt 8 ай бұрын
Obviously you have filled with hate against Ottoman or Turkish idk but this was not a kidnapping. They were either war orpans or their family gave them willingly to the Ottoman so that they could have a better life in rich Ottoman lands. I didn't even want to explain this because it seems that you just writing out of spite not because you know anything. But i felt like somebody needs to educate you. This kind of hate may hurt you someday. A piece of advice.
@Beef33EE
@Beef33EE 9 ай бұрын
It's so surprising that Liberals and Socialist aren't calling for Turkey to give reparations to Albania, Greece, North Macedonia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania and Bosnia. Or Egypt for Georgia, Russia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Armenia. Or Saudi Arabia, India and China for Ethopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Tanzania, Mozambique, Djibouti, Kenya and The Sudans.
@kingmasterfilip2965
@kingmasterfilip2965 9 ай бұрын
What bro this is wrong video, what did Egypt do?Also you mixed France and Uk for Saudi Arabia, China and India? Also are you a bot?
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
True
@moizkhan91
@moizkhan91 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like pakstan. pak army , establishment
@abdullahkhan-vb5qs
@abdullahkhan-vb5qs 9 ай бұрын
I thought the same
@MakKAM743
@MakKAM743 8 ай бұрын
Blud can't spell intelligence
@OYATca
@OYATca 9 ай бұрын
basically CIA and MOSSAD of today, but not as intelligent
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
Really ?? Some wre greater than the sultans.
@abdullahkhan-vb5qs
@abdullahkhan-vb5qs 9 ай бұрын
Omg That's Pakistan Army
@Greensanctuary-c4w
@Greensanctuary-c4w 8 ай бұрын
Nope, a christian army
@azarkhan6795
@azarkhan6795 9 ай бұрын
Same like Pakistan army
@ammarahmed3834
@ammarahmed3834 9 ай бұрын
pak army
@abdullahaagepicherasgullah9136
@abdullahaagepicherasgullah9136 9 ай бұрын
Science 😂😂😂😂 yes if they want loyal truthful good character than they have to take non-Muslim blood haha
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