The Rise, Fall, And Rise Again Of Ring Of Honor (Part 1) | partsFUNknown

[@Shavinderyt]

ROH always felt like this mythological beast that keeps wrestling alive. Ive never watched it but I still feel this appreciation and respect for it whenever it comes up. its about time I learnt about our culture. Thank you Tempest and WT for making these!

[@cobrakai4761]

Same

[@averywoody2982]

Same

[@boxingfan6766]

Got to say RoH bringing over Mitsuharu Misawa was another highlight. Yes he was shot to bits by that point but it was still Mitsuharu Misawa!! An extremely rare overseas appearance of him will always be a big highlight for me.

[@MrSkerpentine]

I didn’t know the forbidden door opened that early! Lol

[@Bman32x]

This describes perfectly how I felt discovering ROH in 2009. The energy was higher, the hits looked stiff and the handshake was just different

[@KalmoK]

I discovered it in 2009 too! My friend was big on TNA and from there he heard about ROH and told me. I was fed up with WWE already in 2009 so I started watching both of them, too bad Hulk Hogan ruined TNA almost right away, but ROH was always solid atleast

[@lazypaladin]

Seeing as I know very little bout R.O.H, this is very appreciated. Stella work Tempest 👌

[@jonmel]

Tempests videos keep getting better

[@delcore7976]

I can't wait to see the ROH archive content. Hopefully TK gets it out soon.

[@leeshwan903]

Thank you, Tempest and PartsFUNknown, for this insightful video on ROH. I feel more informed about what ROH was and why it matters.

[@diegochaconvillamizar3309]

the pool of talent ROH had through it's history is amazing, great video guys

[@AAZQ33]

Can feel the passion in Tempest’s voice when he’s talking about pro wrestling. Love the work brother 💙

[@bradleycombs2626]

I love when Tempest reviews things he is passionate about.

[@TechGamer-pq1gu]

Ring of Honor was the birthplace of so many great stars that we have today that I hope they would continue to build the stars of tomorrow.

[@jckorn9148]

Black and Gold NXT was successful because it had this same feel. I recently just re-watched the last "big arena" Takeover in Portland from February 2020. Truly a "before times" show. End of an era, in many ways.

[@TempestLikesWrestling]

Very much so, NXT was WWE's answer to ROH and they were very successful with it.

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Early roh dvds are what got me back into wrestling. I would argue roh changed the business more than any indy ever including ecw

[@BartyTardy]

Tempest has gotten so good at these commentary videos. It's awesome to hear someone get more and more confident. Keep it up broham!!

[@MungareMike]

Oh, thank you very much for this video, Tempest!!!

[@carriefoyle3560]

Really enjoyed part 1 and can’t wait for part 2 🥰

[@BlackWind-rx5il]

There's a thing that I would like people to understand about ROH, especially the first years of ROH, because I think many people have this misconception that because ROH focused on pro-wrestling and in-ring performances, it lacked stories and characters and proper feuds. And this couldn't be more false. Why do people remember Miseria Cantare? Because they remember ROH's CM Punk and holy hell ROH's CM Punk was *ALL ABOUT* character work, stories and personal feuds. His bout with Raven was all about CM Punk turning heel and enstablishing himself as the outcast, the man who stood against Raven because he represented the failures of modern society to Punk. The man who had all the opportunities and flashed it down the toilets because of his demons, because of alcohol, drugs, vices. AND of course, Raven remembered Punk of his father, who also had alcohol issues, one of the reasons of Punk being straightedge. Is this not a story? It wasn't just matches, it was promos, and brawls and incredible moments like Tommy Dreamer coming out to save Raven and them pouring alcohol in Punk's mouth, forcing him to taste alcohol. Or Punk tying Raven to an big X, like Raven tied Sandman to a cross in ECW. The fact itself that Punk beat Raven in almost every match they had, pinned him multiple times, kinda like Raven used to do with Dreamer. And this was just one of Punk's personal intense feud. Miseria Cantare was integral part of the character too, he would come in with this epic theme song that fit Punk's character like few could. "Love your hate, your faith lost, you are now one of us". The ones like Punk, the disenchanted, the disillusioned, the outcasts. ROH had TONS of other personal feuds and not all of them were just about wrestling and winning matches, there were a lot of feuds revolving around characters, clash of personalities, hatred, love, betrayal. And ROH was incredibly good a creative long narrative arcs, more often than not with very satisfying endings. ROH was a professional wrestling company sure, but pro-wrestling IS entertainment, and ROH was very entertaining in its best years. The two things are not as mutually exclusive as WWE wants people to believe.

[@codino97]

even in the 2010s u had generico vs steen which was fking amazing cole vs o´reilly they always got something for us

[@ricksulistyo]

ROH reignite my passion for pro wrestling after Eddie's passing, watching how he helped this upstart promotion. Thank you Bryan, Punk, Joe, AJ, Daniel, Black, Ki, Generico, Steen, Castagnoli, Hero, Davey, Edward, Strong, Nigel, and many more

[@deebow_fat]

Minor correction, but ROH had a PPV and Video On-Demand deal in 2007.

[@noahp1124]

Touch grass please

[@MultiClassGeek]

The bell rings, class is in session, and Professor Tempest is back to educate the masses about Pro Wrestling history. We love to see it.

[@SlipperyGoulet]

Becoming more and more of a Tempest fan....great content.

[@SpicySpecials]

Random Fact: DJ Z aka Joaquiin Wild designed the first ROH logo when the promotion started after winning an online contest for fans to design ROH's first design

[@vids2002]

Noce, I didn't know that. Thanks for a new random fact

[@ianwoodaudio]

I wasn’t watching wrestling at the time of ROH birth, I only know about it from watching it from a historical perspective, and lately by the talent who’ve turned up on Impact or AEW. Yet it set such a foundation for the wrestling style that drew me back in in London 2017

[@fredymayhem]

These are some of the best videos guys! Love itttttt! Jam that Jam!!!

[@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545]

Sadly, with no TV deal and me being a near shut-in at the time, I had no opportunity to get exposure to RoH. My first time seeing Ring Of Honor was when WTVZ local 33 started playing their program in 2012 or 13. It was so refreshing after over a decade of wwe and ECWWE (ugh!). Oh, and tna. To me, it felt like the vibe of the old school ECW at the time. Davey Richards, Kevin Steen (when he got back from his "suspension"), Jay Lethal, the Briscoes and so many more. It captured just enough of that ECW spirit to scratch that itch.

[@vids2002]

It is crazy how some people never got to see some of the greatest moments in RoH. Hopefully this helps them find out about it and seek out some matches (and hopefully the library is on some type of service soon). I wish RoH for years had the backing of a larger promotion that let them stay them but help them thrive. I feel if they had a bigger tv deal, they could have competed with TNA back in it's good days

[@kenshigo3833]

Especially for the people outside of the US, it would be such a huge deal if there would be a streaming service for AEW including the library of ROH!

[@vids2002]

@@kenshigo3833 Very true. I know setting something like that up isn't easy but I feel that should be more of a priority over a video game (even tho I love video games). But now he has to figure out how to run a new company so it might get pushed back a little. I hope we know something by summer latest

[@Spacewizzard090]

i've always wondered about ROH, and heard of the big matches like the joe/punk and danielson/morishima, do they have a streaming service/place to buy the old DVDs?

[@kenshigo3833]

@@vids2002 I agree yes. But i´m sure they are at least talking about it. Looking forward to the video game, but the streaming service would be the first thing i´d throw my money at!

[@CoggedCG]

Man I wish this didn’t have to be broken up into more videos. Tempest you’re awesome for covering this. I was aware of ROH but I was a kid in the early 2000s and didn’t catch it until they had a tv deal on destination America after Impact in 2014. This will be an interesting series. Part 2 please

[@ajstyles7678]

Should do a rise and fall & rise again of impact

[@diquandaniel7953]

I love Tempest. I love lists. I love Tempest’s lists.

[@dasdeke]

Loved this overview! I wished I'd known about RoH back in it's prime, during the WWE Cene/Batisa/Orton era I was bored to tears. Still looking back and being able to watch it now, it'd been a treat and I look forward to seeing what AEW has in store for it's next chapter.

[@anthonyfleck9099]

Oh my i love week-end you talk slowly like this. Very chilling

[@Deadpunk-no7po]

Got a lot of the greatest moments in the early years of ROH on DVD still.

[@atalexjoseph]

Great content Temest

[@PrimeIsCrime]

I wish I could go back in time like 15 years and say to my old self, "I know you are just 7 years old, but you have got to watch ROH, NJPW and other shows." I have missed out so many good moments because I had no any connection/memories with those promotions. I used to think that WWE was only " THE PROMOTION",boy was I wrong.

[@depressedrocketsfan2880]

Damn I need to see some ROH matches

[@cassiusfelix2805]

This going to be a good no a great video 👍🏻

[@Letsalllovelain2004]

9:02 What did tna do to deserve this slander. tna from 2004 to 2009 was good since it had a lot of roh dudes like aj, joe, and daniels, even the hogan bischoff era had some good stuff like mcmg vs beer money.

[@theactualbrummie8524]

Can we seriously consider renaming tempest as the dark horse of wrestletalk? Amazing voice over work man, entertaining as hell

[@GamingWithCubby]

Interesting concept

[@MayorofPainsvilleDAN]

Very very great content

[@chrismegusta]

What's that song on the background? Sounds amazing

[@theshadowranger]

What's with the unneeded shots at TNA? Will the IWC always be butthurt that TNA was bigger and more successful that ROH?

[@thisisntme]

I like this. Good job.

[@OutsiderLXIX]

I remember going to an ROH show when I was 17. Didn't know ANY of the wrestlers ahead time bc all I knew was WWE. It took that ONE SHOW and I was HOOKED. I started getting ROH dvds wherever I could find them. I went from not wanting to go to the show bc I didn't know the wrestlers, to LOVING their product! Long live ROH

[@jayrizzle9226]

I gotta disagree with that last part, aew needs to let roh rest. In. Peaceee!

[@swarren2913]

I've always loved how ROH is one of the few wrestling companies not to feature the word wrestling in its name

[@danielkhumalo6481]

Great video. You were a little too hard on TNA in this but great part 1 nonetheless. TNA in the same period ( 2003-2008) had literally the best wrestling years known to the industry of any profession

[@Jack91790]

TNA was embarrassing. Anything good was ripped directly from ROH after they banned their wrestlers from working there.

[@grimbelfix2648]

Early ROH is in my eyes on par with 90s All Japan

[@MySpiritAnimalisADorito]

why do all the pictures have that weird double edge? Is this supposed to be viewed with 3D glasses? Great content, as always... but it's a little hard on the eyes

[@whatwouldnetwork9441]

I miss the wrestling channel on Sky. That’s where I first watched ROH, Japanese wrestling and shoot interviews.

[@thunderb4stard80]

Beside ajpw in the 90s, roh in the 2000s was the highest peak of any promotion ever. It was the best and hopefully will be again

[@BradleyRyanBurris]

Someone tell tempest how good the sing of sorrow album is lol awesome job on this one tempest!!

[@Jamessmith-xk3fh]

I never really watched ROH until about two years before they started working with NJPW and the Elite would be on their a lot. I remember watching the Ladder Wars PPV that had the match between Kevin Steen/Owens and Generico

[@rhomo001]

If anyone does not mind the quality of video, ROH's channel still has their old school roster videos from 2005 to 07.... great video tempest

[@vids2002]

Love watching them myself

[@notshadou_yt]

one of my favorite eras is Jay Lethal Era

[@matthewbrown3240]

What is the best way to watch the first 5-10 years of ROH?

[@jamesh6535]

I went to some of the ROH Chicago shows in this era. There was a definite snootiness to it all, like we needed to take it very seriously. More often than not, if the same guys were at IWA MidSouth, that was more fun.

[@mageside]

The very first match I remember seeing in Ring of Honor was that epid CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe match on at like 4 am on some random sports station here in Canada, I called my brother out of the room telling him that he has to see this. I told him CM Punk was fighting, and we we're both CM Punk marks because of his legendary Summer of Punk in WWE and we we're both a bit anti-Samoa Joe at the time, but goddamn did he ever change out minds that night back in 2011.

[@aaronbarlow4870]

After the ROH series can we have a NXT The Rise, Fall and Rise again?

[@jerranspearman3369]

good video

[@christophermolloy4252]

What is that song played in the outro of the video? I can't place it at all

[@jakedandy8323]

Yes they had great music. But good luck hearing it on those recordings

[@dylanogg347]

Dude, what have you got against iMPACT?

[@CezrDaPleazr]

This gonna be juicy

[@RokaUchiha]

The next one better come out tomorrow

[@Heroofclowns]

I can't believe the RF stuff was sooo overlooked here, because there is more drama to talk about.

[@DeadHierophant]

"Bleeding Signs" by Chris Shards - excellent use of such a moody track. Seems like someone in the Wrestletalk/Partsfunknown crew is subscribed to World of Darkness 😉

[@luffs812]

The round-robin matches the first one also the feud Daniel Bryan vs Nigel McGuinness I was only able to find three of the matches 2 in its entirety and one clips I believe one of them was a draw but still a lot of fun to watch

[@aztecwrrior1997]

ROH was a reincarnation of ECW while TNA was WCW 2000 ROH made it possible for most of ECWs fanbase to flock to this new company

[@unoriginalandrew]

Where have I seen the VHS gimmick used before? Hmmm... 🤔

[@kenshigo3833]

You should do the same for NxT, at least part 1. If they have a rise again, you can do part 2^^

[@IgnoresTrolls]

What is the story with the final music from a coming of age 80s movie?

[@sfrom1542]

The last time I watched an ROH match this same guy kept coming out and was in three different storylines. All I remember was that he dressed like a complete need and he wore glasses with tape in the middle of them. He didn't seem like someone who would be a wrestler. It was nothing like I ever saw in ROH before and I didn't like it. It sort of reminded me of when ECW used to bring dolls in the ring as part of a faction. It was all very strange just as was ROH the last time I saw it. Don't get me wrong I know ROH produced many great wrestlers. I know Rollins and Cesaro were among many who wrestled there.

[@MasterSartorius]

For real though, the TNA hate in this video kind of ruins the content.

[@Jack91790]

TNA tried to ruin ROH repeatedly, so it fits.

[@calcio_tb]

Good video, maybe next time the music a bit lighter. But overall good video

[@Christopherjazzcat]

Omg the shade "and TNA could be whatever the opposite of entertaining was" 🤣🤣🤣 I loved ROH. I never got to go to a show (i live in Australia) but i always at least watched Final Battle every year and usually most of the other PPVs. I couldn't get into Cena or HHH as top guys. Joe, Punk, and Danielson had way better matches. It was the spiritual successor to ECW through the 2000s and had my favourite match of all time with Punk vs Joe 2

[@vids2002]

The shade was real 😂😂

[@jdixon390]

Song credits?

[@kojikamisori5402]

Since Tempest is Canadian, I'd like to point out that in the beginning days of RoH, and the model they used, gave a rebirth of Indie (some say Backyard) Wrestling in Eastern Canada. Canada has a history of wrestling, but lacked the "Indie circuit" that the USA has. Most were located in Western Canada due to the popularity of Calgary's famous family. The RoH model and popularity inspired Eastern Canada to step up. While Toronto was famous for Sully's Gym, which pumped out Talent such as Edge and Christian and Trish Stratus, not many were able to go that route due to costs, Edge himself won free training through an essay contest. Similar to RoH, once these little feds started making money from ticket sales and DVD sales, they imported more talent to attract more fans to shows... Some even went of to WWE afterwards such as The Highlanders who cut their teeth in GLCW, PWA and NSPW for example... Probably not the best example due to their short tenure, but an example I'm personally familiar with. Imagine for a moment having a work visa to do wrestling shows, but due to the small 'circuit" barely making enough to survive on, not to mention the lack of schools to train at. Like RoH, there have been ups and downs, but compared to the time when Edge and Christian started in the 90's there are quite a few more opportunities and avenues to wrestle and train. Heck, Serena Deeb, had a seminar and show at "Santino Marella's" Kombat Arts on the weekend of April 9th. Why is this so long and why did I write it? Think of it as a "Love letter" to Tempest and those at PartsFUNknown for their love of wrestling and RoH.

[@StubzTurner]

Honestly, this was a great video to listen to because whatever filter you guys used over it was just not good to the point where it was actually hurting my eyes.

[@vids2002]

So there is a weird filter lol

[@FamilySwan]

You should do one on MLW

[@overstandevolutionperpetui8681]

Second, nice💪

[@luffs812]

CM Punk versus Joe was also good but could only find clips of the matches

[@timothydrake5183]

Here's Tempest actively trying to get fans to hate TNA/Impact. Couldn't you have made the video without criticism of TNA? I mean.... which one of the two are still actively running right now?

[@bull705]

If you're stupid enough to hire Vince Russo to book your company, you deserve the criticism!

[@Jack91790]

TNA was always the rival and ROH fans hated TNA, so its appropriate. Also it is a stretch eo say Impact has anything in common with that TNA.

[@brianban110]

Tony should just put ROH weekly shows on KZbin

[@vivianezeidan205]

I want to see how Adam would have booked Roman Vs Cena at SummerSlam 2021.

[@ready7248]

Part 1 the beginning? You're not slick bro 😂😂😂

[@goodfella1401]

Like so many who stopped watching wrestling after the haydays of Nitro and got back into wrestling due to AEW I'm so glad that Tony Khan bought ROH. It deserves a change to rise again and AEW has the resources and talent to make that happen

[@PowerPackers90]

It's kinda funny how when you actually think about it. How while TNA and ROH never reached that WCW levels of success of being #2 company. they both paved the way to the company that ultimately did, AEW.

[@EnterSandman9900]

Apparently a 15 year old DJZ/Joaquin Wilde was the one who created the og ROH logo

[@fyrewatermelons]

Fun fact, the "ugly af" OG ROH logo was designed by a young Joaquin Wilde

[@kuyarami5030]

Kind of harsh on TNA, but around 08 was their peak too. But I get it, TNA had a lot of misses.

[@teach6882]

I think its funny that ROH as a shut down brand and after being bought by TK is more relevant than ever, at least it feels like that

[@andypaps818]

Sounds like someone's butthurt about Impact wrestling We need more Adam

[@The-Fewer]

Roh was Broadway, WWE was Hollywood

[@victorolosaurus]

is this some kind of retROHspective?

[@KalmoK]

AEW should run ROH as it's own entity if they are going to hire their talent, it's already too stacked in there so many wrestlers are just in Dark or Elevation without nothing to do really... I know, ROH released their talent right after they went under so they weren't in the package so to speak and can do whatever they want, but IF they will hire them

[@LanceKhaos]

Why the TNA hate?

[@Infocrumbs]

Afi song?

[@Adam_Williamson99]

Why does it look like this video is entirely in 3D

[@vids2002]

Some of these comments have me wondering if they are only interested in RoH now because Tony Khan owes it. I wonder if these eyes would be on it or even this video would be made if it wasnt bought by Tiny Khan. Because before this, most exact those that seeked, went to, or watched it on tv card about it. Before then, unless it was their big yearly ppv, some got injured, or someone left, it got the NJPW and TNA/Impact treatment, left out of the news and review cycle

[@Jack91790]

They're clueless. AEW fans are like the Marvel fans of pro wrestling. They may not be as close-minded as WWE fans but they're still cultist weirdos, who think wrestling is a meme. God I miss ROH '03-08.

[@mmoses2991]

I don't think the shitting on TNA in the mid-00s in this video is really fair. That era of TNA/Impact is by far the best era in that company. I personally didn't learn about ROH until many years later, so during that time I watched TNA as an alternative to what I felt at the time was a stale WWE.

[@Jack91790]

ROH fans hated TNA. TNA banned wrestlers from working their several times and ripped off their angles.