The Rise & Fall of the North Melbourne Football Club

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The Rise & Fall of the North Melbourne Football Club. Are the North Melbourne Football Club the WORST club in AFL over the past 25 years?
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@boundaryrider
@boundaryrider 8 ай бұрын
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@Leftfield71
@Leftfield71 8 ай бұрын
Poorly researched and with numerous errors. We've made 3 Preliminary Final's since the end of Pagan era in 2007, 2014 & 2015. We actually lost over 2000 games experience in 2016 and we aren't even close to reaching the lowest point in our history, we've only had one losing streaking over 20 games this decade whereas we had two losing streaks of over 30 games in 1930's, had two winless seasons and another 3 with only 1 win. We can sink a lot further than we have currently and still not hit our lowest point. 😀
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 8 ай бұрын
Tbf, that is very long ago. Roos didn’t “win” a wooden spoon for almost 50, and then won two in a row 21/22. Never been a consistent top side, far from it, but the last years are some of the worst in history.
@deanthomas8080
@deanthomas8080 8 ай бұрын
Came to the comments to write exactly the same thing, poorly researched video & thankfully the first comment in the section echoed my thoughts exactly. The forgotten years also? Geez in some aspects maybe but a lot if teams have done a lot worse than 3 prelims in that time period 😳
@DivergentRailways
@DivergentRailways 8 ай бұрын
As a North fan, I've been waiting for someone to tell this tale for years... It isn't just one player or coach to blame for North, it has been our recruiting staff; not to mention the million dollar offers we tried to get Dustin Martin and Toby Greene in 2016. (Not saying they were gonna be our saviors btw) People always tell me 'your club has been shit since 2020', nah... It was 2016, the year that sealed our fate.
@gggumball
@gggumball 8 ай бұрын
if you ask me, the entire time I've been following footy (2011) North have never been all that relevant. Low top 8 positions each year, made a couple prelims but didn't stand a chance in em. After that they started to really fall off
@xkimopye
@xkimopye 8 ай бұрын
North’s major problem is the recruiters. Except for the last couple of years, the last time we recruited a gun was Boomer back in 1995.
@brettcoles5262
@brettcoles5262 8 ай бұрын
LDU ?
@KangaKangaKangaRooRooRoo
@KangaKangaKangaRooRooRoo 8 ай бұрын
Wardlaw
@KangaKangaKangaRooRooRoo
@KangaKangaKangaRooRooRoo 8 ай бұрын
Sheezel?
@xkimopye
@xkimopye 8 ай бұрын
@@KangaKangaKangaRooRooRoo I think you missed the part where I said “except the last couple of years”
@xkimopye
@xkimopye 8 ай бұрын
@@brettcoles5262 yeah he is a great player, but he is not a competition top 10
@BG-id2cv
@BG-id2cv 8 ай бұрын
I think you'll find that David Dench was actually younger than Carey when he was appointed captain of North in 1972......aged 20 and a few months.
@miljoy91
@miljoy91 7 ай бұрын
You can literally do draft retrospectives on any club. It's all hindsight. Did you know Richmond picked Tambling over Franklin? 🤯 Every club passed on Sam Taylor
@TimmyTickle
@TimmyTickle 7 ай бұрын
And St Kilda took Billings over Bontempelli, and McCartin over Petracca and Brayshaw
@youmakemebored9269
@youmakemebored9269 8 ай бұрын
As a north fan the past 5 years have been shocking but 2023 and this year 2024 are starting to give me tastes of what this team will be in the next 3 to 4 years we have some great rookies as you mentioned and i beailve it is possible to north to make finals again in the coming years
@boundaryrider
@boundaryrider 8 ай бұрын
I think the turn around is very soon. But they really messed up the rebuild from 2016-2021
@youmakemebored9269
@youmakemebored9269 8 ай бұрын
Gotta agree with that it's only up from here though
@boundaryrider
@boundaryrider 8 ай бұрын
I hope so mate. Heaps of good signs
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 8 ай бұрын
You have a lot of great talents, but what exactly gives you “tastes” this and the last season? North have been playing absolutely horrible 2023/24. The only game you where you were not being flogged by the opposition was WC without Reid, a bottom side as well. And I don’t mean to be degrading or provocative, I genuinely see no real progression. Talent is not enough, players have to develop and improve, have the possibility to show their full potential, and ultimately form a well balanced team. Take it from a Carlton fan. We were in a similar position most of the last twenty years. I hope Roos manage a turnaround quickly but it might take way longer than you think.
@sliat1981
@sliat1981 8 ай бұрын
Don’t forget getting rid of Ben Brown. The next year he finished on top and won the premiership while north got the wooden spoon
@J_S209
@J_S209 5 ай бұрын
Adam Ramanscus ….Brown’s and also Ben McKay’s manager …. hate North …. Wanted overs for both players so bye bye.
@jc7671
@jc7671 5 ай бұрын
Merger with Bulldogs. Clarko & Bevo can fist fight for the job. Loser becomes coach.
@PWD65
@PWD65 8 ай бұрын
As a North fan it's hard to argue with any of this.
@IterImpiusnp
@IterImpiusnp 8 ай бұрын
North supporter here I enjoyed the video, brought back some good memories of the 90’s, and the ‘forgotten years’. You did get a few things from the past wrong/incorrect, but overall it was a good review of the past few years.
@rooboytim7923
@rooboytim7923 8 ай бұрын
Rome wasn't built in a Day, our first win of the 2024 Season, shows others what we are capable of when push comes to shove. I am a proud and patient Member of my beloved Kangas, The light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter and brighter by the game. As a very proud West Australian, it was nice to see The Eagles finish 2nd on this occasion, as well! 🔵⚪🔵⚪
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 8 ай бұрын
Capable of winning against a WC without Reid? Yes. It doesn’t frighten the rest of the league very much. With all due respect. Long long long way to go still. No factor this season.
@rooboytim7923
@rooboytim7923 8 ай бұрын
@@LomuHabana I am not all that bothered about This Season, really. Getting Griffin Logue back in defence, is something I am truly looking forward to!
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 8 ай бұрын
@@rooboytim7923 Good addition for sure. Looking forward to next season and see whether the Roos can finally take a step in the right direction.
@TBoneTony
@TBoneTony 8 ай бұрын
North Melbourne's glory years were most certainly in the 1970s to the 1990s early 2000s. However after an incident involving two of their most star players having a huge falling out due to infidelity issues, the club has never been the same since. I feel for Brent Harvey most of all because he holds the VFL/AFL games record, yet he was only there right near the end of their glory years and spent his middle and late career trying to keep the club afloat. Lucky to play in the 1999 Premiership and was perhaps expecting to play in more during his early career.
@J_S209
@J_S209 5 ай бұрын
Glen Archers toilet almost folded North …. But there is quite a lot more to that story and I only know a little bit of it.
@portadelaidepower1293
@portadelaidepower1293 7 ай бұрын
North have made the top 4 a heap of times since 2000. North won the first 9 matches of the 2016 season. At the end of 2016 North Sacked 5 of their very best players including Brent Harvey. Their obsession with youth and rebuilding is what cost them.
@rahmcgah5144
@rahmcgah5144 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. It's lack of players who are good in the 24-29/30+ age range. Goes ba k to the 2010s under BS, where players were draft and then let go after a short period of time. Admittedly these players weren't very good, but then it goes back to recruitment as to why they were chosen?? Look at the 2017 draft as an example, we took WILL WALKER- a kid with injuries who barely played AFL, over balta, tim Kelly, Sam Taylor and half a dozen other good players. Walker delisted after 4 years...
@tomnguyen4673
@tomnguyen4673 8 ай бұрын
Kangeroo made the prelim in 2007, 2014 and 2015 mate
@palamj2
@palamj2 8 ай бұрын
Kangaroos are a club that lack an identity and recruit a coach who has lost his last 4 finals, hasn’t won a final since 2015 and left Hawthorn in a mess. You sow what you reap.
@MattOnYoutube999
@MattOnYoutube999 5 ай бұрын
A lot of the players who aren't going to help us going forward are out of contract either this year or next year so for me 2026 is the year I think we will rise up the ladder. Imagine 4th year Sheezel, Wardlaw. 3rd year Mckercher, Durrsma, Dawson and Hardeman. Throw in a few more top 5 picks that we get from this year and probably next year as well as shipping off some of the passengers we have and things will turn around. Some other names like Powell, Xerri, Archer and Comben coming along this year shows things are turning but it will be a slow burn over the next 2-3 years
@Tim1991-m7d
@Tim1991-m7d 7 ай бұрын
The most important ppl at North right now are Brady Rawlings and his team with Clarkson a close second. North can't compete with the big clubs on Free Agency so as a small Melbourne club need to build through the draft. Basically need to nail every first and second round pick from here on out.
@pillwolak
@pillwolak 7 ай бұрын
Where was the rise of North Melb? Even after their success in the mid to late 90s they were still a club that struggled to gain sponsorships. The pygmy club of the AFL
@jj45455
@jj45455 7 ай бұрын
Imagine being a north supporter, or a saints supporter.
@craighedditch933
@craighedditch933 2 ай бұрын
It's very easy to kick a dog when they're down. As someone mentioned earlier, very poorly researched as every team has draft failures, what's the league AVG percentage? While focusing on the 2 that failed you failed to detail the 20 that didn't including an All Aus Forward.
@chrisarabatzis4152
@chrisarabatzis4152 8 ай бұрын
To be honest I listened to this thinking it was a hate vid, glad you clarified it at the end. Go Roos!
@jackroberts9401
@jackroberts9401 8 ай бұрын
North made the Top 4 in 2014 and 2015.
@petergilbert3861
@petergilbert3861 8 ай бұрын
Good synopsis. Clarko will create something. Not talking premiership but a decent foundation for the future.
@ShadowLight-kn7rl
@ShadowLight-kn7rl 8 ай бұрын
A relocation or merger will NEVER happen with North as that's the cowards approach and by far the easiest fart in the wind poke people can make with any struggling team. Hindsight is by far the cruellest factor when it comes to drafts and trades and North has always been up against these things with rather unique circumstances. A product of poor off field management is what's to blame unfortunately and despite the darkness of where things have gotten, its currently the now and later that's only to the minds of club and fans. To invest into the future and entice those who want to be a part of a better one in etching a new found legacy in the clubs history. There's cash to splash and a worthwhile opportunity to be had a North and it ultimately boils down to people regocnising that dream to work at and make into a reality. Other clubs are the easier option and what it's worth, when has North ever had to not work against the odds. Yes I'm completely biased to my club for this and that's just a kevel of acceptance that we've been terrible long enough and that despite where we are now? Things are turning around for the better.
@Magpie_Mark92
@Magpie_Mark92 6 ай бұрын
You can thank Brad Scott for this
@andyandrew7557
@andyandrew7557 8 ай бұрын
North Melbourne's time of future glory will come again. They might have been bottom for last 5 years but when they start to have success at some point in the future they could have sustained success for 15-20 years much like Geelong and Sydney have and that's the upside reward. Every side will struggle and bottom out and North are going through that now. Right now is the best time to bottom out for a club because when Tasmania enter their first season in 2028 a lot of Victorian clubs will struggle to get top talent and rebuild strongly. I believe North Melbourne could potentially become a power by 2027 but they need to get a couple of really good key defenders in the draft as well as another goal kicking Key forward to take the pressure off Nick larkey and another tall power forward. Their mid field will be elite soon enough and Tristian Xerri has the potential to become the best ruckman in the comp in 2-3 years time.
@billbaggins1688
@billbaggins1688 7 ай бұрын
2 weeks ago ... has not aged well. North are on the way back.
@tangiers365
@tangiers365 8 ай бұрын
kick them out of AFL when tassie come in to balance the comp imo
@BG-id2cv
@BG-id2cv 8 ай бұрын
They should have become the Gold Coast Kangaroos when the AFL offered them $100 m to relocate. A no brainer IMHO.
@royalwolf9926
@royalwolf9926 8 ай бұрын
Would you relocate your team to Gold Coast if they were offered 100 million dollars (you don’t get any of the money) (you also can’t go to home games anymore because they are in Gold Coast)
@BG-id2cv
@BG-id2cv 8 ай бұрын
@@royalwolf9926 Certainly. South Melbourne when they relocated to Sydney didn't get a cent, yet their old South supporters stuck with them....and they get to see them in Melbourne at least 6 times per season. How can you lose?
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 8 ай бұрын
@@BG-id2cvwhat’s your team if I may ask? And I disagree, I believe they should have relocated to Canberra at the same time the Swans relocated to Sydney. I don’t know, but Canberra feels like a better fit somehow. Closer to Melbourne, more people with Melbourne roots there and Canberra kangaroos just sounds better. The ACT could have been AR territory if the VFL took their chances.
@BG-id2cv
@BG-id2cv 8 ай бұрын
@@LomuHabana I'm a Melbourne based Swans member.
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 8 ай бұрын
@@BG-id2cv South supporter I reckon? Old South or newer generation? What do you think about the Canberra Kangaroos (in the 80s, now that ship juist might have sealed with the Raider and Brumbies)?
@HM-yv2wt
@HM-yv2wt 8 ай бұрын
The suffering... Its just expected now
@craigmcneill5551
@craigmcneill5551 7 ай бұрын
This is similar to the Crows
@brettcoles5262
@brettcoles5262 8 ай бұрын
The down fall, bahahahaha. We are just starting, watch from next year.
@bdawg3942
@bdawg3942 8 ай бұрын
And next year you’ll say the same 🥱
@brettcoles5262
@brettcoles5262 8 ай бұрын
@@bdawg3942 we will see
@bdawg3942
@bdawg3942 8 ай бұрын
*fall ❤️🌈
@dawnofmayhem5691
@dawnofmayhem5691 8 ай бұрын
This is the dumbest piece of fact finding I’ve ever seen. “Club at the bottom hasn’t recruited well”. Go on!
@boundaryrider
@boundaryrider 8 ай бұрын
Could u maybe elaborate better than this man. I’m fine to have people disagree but i don’t understand ur point. Yes they haven’t recruited well and is a big reason for why the Roos have been at the bottom for nearly 8 years.
@dawnofmayhem5691
@dawnofmayhem5691 8 ай бұрын
@@boundaryrider 87 to 93 is not a 10 year absence. North made 3 prelims since Carey left, not 2. He wasn't the youngest captain, Dench was. In the last 8 years they've had a 6th, 2 x 8th, and a 9th place finish....but other than that, you're spot on. Keep up the great work
@victoryteamtv
@victoryteamtv 8 ай бұрын
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