the rise of chin lipo & "snatched jawlines" | Internet Analysis

[@tiffanyferg]

if I had a dollar for every time I said "insidious" in this video... I could buy one of those face compression chin straps or something

[@Katie2986]

😂

[@bjpuck]

Missed opportunity for chinsidious

[@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat]

I have that problem with the world "inherently." I noticed I was using it too much when my bf was saying it more in convo. I was reminded whenever they said it to ease up lol.

[@emilyreilhan]

the note about not passing insecurities to your daughter really stood out to me. I think a huge reason of why I never cared THAT much about how I looked was because I never, not ONCE heard my mom say anything bad about her own body. Sure, it makes sense that she wouldn't criticize mine, that would be awful - but I never heard her comment negatively on ANYONE'S appearance. I think that did a lot for me. "Flaws" of the body didn't exist to me growing up, and I think it did me so much good.

[@cbpd89]

What a great world view to pass on to the next generation ❤️

[@achaelrays]

It really is so powerful! Growing up, nobody ever criticised my body or appearance, but everyone in my family constantly commented on their own and other people's bodies. It really did a number on me despite never being directed at me. It's so nice to hear that not every woman had to grow up with that, and I'll be proud to be the last in my lineage who has to

[@Roya-l1i]

As someone who was on the opposite side of the spectrum, yes, that really stood out to me too 😭! My mom is a pretty good parent but she still won’t own up to the way her criticizing of her body every morning before school is what gave me body dysmorphia at 7 years old and an eating disorder from 11-12 years old. The way parents talk about themselves has a HUGE EFFECT on their child! I’m very happy to hear your mom was sensitive to this 😄

[@kirahoney2068]

God, this!! There’s a fair bit of stuff my parents did when raising me that I don’t really agree with, but one thing I’ll be super duper grateful for forever was there being absolutely zero commenting on anyone’s physical appearance. Compliments were pretty much reserved only for things that were style choices, like ‘she has beautiful earrings’ or ‘that dress looks super cool’, with complete de-emphasis on people’s actual bodies or faces.

[@PeppermintBiscuit]

Agreed SO much. I wish my own mother was this way. Only now in my adulthood have I realized just how insecure she is about her own appearance and I'm trying to extract her voice from my head. She wasn't too tough on me but I can't unhear the words she directed at herself. And Tiffany thank you for your brutal honesty with this subject. I wish I could measure it but I FEEL like the intensity of beauty standard pressure is the worst it's ever been. And for what little it's worth I've NEVER had a single passing thought about your jawline! Instead I just think, "Oh yay, another banger video from Tiffany Ferg!"

[@carleenie]

i never noticed i had a double chin until someone told me. and now it’s all i see. i love that

[@cbpd89]

^^THIS! Someone once said in passing that my eyes are close together. I had never once thought anything at all about my eye placement, now I notice every time I see myself.

[@caritod8370]

that happened to me as well. in elementary school. i'm in my twenties and i can never unsee it lol

[@Whats.her.f4ce]

Yes! My coworker told me i have a thick neck so now i have a neck complex

[@lucija5192]

My roomate told me and I was shocked!!! And since then I can not stop thinking about it (it was 13 years ago 😅)

[@junnybear957]

dude one time when I was 19, I uploaded a selfie on fb and this girl messaged me telling me the picture came across like I was making fun of fat people by putting on a double chin.... I wasn't putting it on I just had a double chin

[@grimtheghastly8878]

Watching this after watching The Substance with my friend yesterday AND seeing that Mina Le dropped a video on a similar topic like damn I'm eating GOOD this this week.

[@stellarsyd]

❤yes I just watched Mina Le's

[@QueenZsWorld]

that, and zoeunlimited. everyone dropped today on cosmetic procedures. must be a sign

[@nehru.5429]

I had surgery last year to fix a major insecurity and let me tell you. it doesn't magically erase your insecurities! i'm still constantly looking in the mirror to check that it's still "better" and not reverting to how it had been before (for my procedure there's a chance that it isn't a permanent fix). I do not regret it at all because it's overall been a major confidence boost, but i wasn't prepared for the anxiety over it to remain. just some advice for anyone contemplating getting a procedure. :)

[@gpgp1841]

This is a well known feeling for people who lost tons of weight when done out of major insecurities or self-hatred. No matter how slim you are, you live with the feeling of dread that one day you'll "look bad again" or that you're still not "as good looking as you should be". Nothing we do for our bodies will cure body dysmorphia (but therapy can help us overcome it).

[@Kelps_K]

You and Mina Le be being on the same wavelength for real 😯

[@NiftyisKristy]

Right! I just did a double feature with this video and Mina’s haha

[@sallijunttila3006]

that's what i thought! lol

[@QueenZsWorld]

and zoeunlimited. everyone dropped today on cosmetic procedures. must be a sign

[@marrrr154]

@@NiftyisKristyliterally 😭

[@cjane360]

this is a great companion vid to the one Mina just put out!! I'm glad some of my fav creators are on the same page as me and my buddies

[@rachel_sj]

I also watched Mina’s video before this as well as Kurtis Conner’s videos on Anti-Aging and Mewing yesterday. Tiffany’s video is well timed! 😂 ETA: I forgot about Dr Linkov’s video on Mewing; I watched that yesterday as well

[@Curioussammy]

@@rachel_sj Love Kurtis Conner, who is Mina? would love to learn more!

[@Melodoodles]

My sisters used to make fun of me because i had the "family chin" (just a double chin essentially at any weight) but recently ive been getting into ancestry and recognizing that my grandparents and great grandparents and so on passed down a distinctive feature has really changed my mindset. Yes i have round cheeks and face and a soft chin and jawline but its from everyone who came before me!

[@SilvrRazorFeather]

I feel the same about my nose, I used to hate it, but my mom at one point said "yeah you got the classic (last name) nose!" And I realized it looks just like my grandpa's nose. And I loved my grandpa, now I'm glad I got his nose

[@mumenRhyder]

I def got a lot of my facial structures from my ma and im more than proud to have the same traits.

[@ramalam98]

@@SilvrRazorFeather same! I have the nose that all the women in my family end up with and, yeah it makes me wince a little bit if I see my side profile, but then I remember that it's part of what makes me 'me'.

[@elizabethbanks2074]

I have the family nose, which my family refers to as “God’s clay” because it looks like a clump of clay was haphazardly thrown on my face. I hated it until my great grandpa died. I have a permanent reminder of him on my face.

[@Zectifin]

I've mostly dated (and prefer) ladies with round faces and bigger noses and when I met my gf she was so self concious about her face and chin and especially nose. I constantly tell her how much I love it all and it makes her beautiful and she has told me that I have helped her self confidence.

[@blasphemous_hippie]

My dudes, I've struggled with being underweight and being perceived/mocked as "too skinny" and bony and "scrawny" and "a stick" my entire life and even I don't have a so-called snatched jawline. I have an incredibly round facial structure that comes from my dad's side of the family which contributes to massive baby face (which I don't hate anymore, luckily). You truly cannot win, it mostly boils down to genetics at the end of the day, which are inescapable. On a more serious note, thank you for feeling like you could be transparent with us about physical insecurities, Tiffany - especially as a new mother.

[@RT-wm3wb]

I have great chin genes and have a snatched jawline but also quite a round face 😂. And I have litle bit overweight but still my sideprofile is great. Front profile however...I don't like it 😅.

[@aloevera420]

Same here. Always been made fun of for being too thin and ‘flat.’ It sucks that any fat I gained seemed to only go to my face and not my chest and thighs😂 I always felt that my rounder face did not match my skinny body but I thought that maybe I was overthinking it…until this one girl in high school straight up asked me why my face was disproportionate to my body 🙃

[@rhoda3704]

What the beauty space is really missing is vulnerability. We don’t want to be real and seen, we want to be like others and camouflage. You being vulnerable today about your personal insecurities is so important. Makes me brave and know I’m not alone

[@rebeccanicola8256]

As a woman in my 30s who has always had a very square and very well-defined jawline, I've kind of always hated it as looking 'masculine' and wished I had a softer 'more feminine' jawline. Grass is always greener and all that 😂

[@KateSparkle]

please, olivia wilde looked so good in house (and very feminine imo) i bet your jaw line is pretty :)

[@karolynanderson2033]

Okay, even though I think you’re right about not wanting to perpetuate the ideals of a profitable industry, I really applaud you for being so candid about how much of a grip the “snatched jawline” had and continues to have on you. We’re all human, and it is so natural to fall prey to these things when you’re being force fed them on a consistent basis. I think you’re a gorgeous human being, but of course it’s so much more nuanced than that. Thoughtful and well written, as always ❤

[@dannydevitostan]

having you as a mom is going to make your child the coolest person ever

[@tiffanyferg]

🥹❤️

[@milikoshki]

As a little kid, I so admired my mom's veiny hands- I used to WISH I had such cool interesting hands. Now I do and I still think feel lucky about it because veiny hands are badass. Same with her forehead, because she could make funny faces and her forehead wrinkled so wonderfully. I used to check the mirror and be disappointed that my forehead stayed smooth. Little kids are not yet poisoned by what you "should" look like. So I'm glad you're keeping in mind the impact you can have on your daughter. You're legit!

[@MnM_ASMR]

My snatched jawline has come from years of TMJ and tooth grinding which I am trying to heal. I have found relief by adjusting my tongue posture like I am saying the letter 'N' and relaxing my jaw muscles. Changing this has helped my neck and trapezius pain SO MUCH! Mewing isnt worth the TMJ pain, a neutral TM joint where your teeth DONT TOUCH is what a relaxed face is supposed to do! Edit: You are beautiful and one of my fave KZbinrs. I am rehabbing an injury that took me away from exercise for months and Ive gained about 15 pounds since the injury. I am also trying to accept my changed body as I get back to a normal exercise routine. Thank you for sharing your feelings about these things because it helps people feel less alone.

[@yeehawbeehaw]

I've had tmj for like 10 years and I've never heard of the "n" thing but I tried it and I think this actually might help me thank you so much

[@thesentienttoadstool9369]

I just did the tongue thing and I feel instantly better. You are a hero

[@caseyw.6550]

People really don't understand how bad clenching and grinding is for your teeth. Like by the time you're 50, they will be stumps. I genuinely think everyone should invest in a nightguard.

[@MnM_ASMR]

@@caseyw.6550 I come from a long line of learned passive aggression so jaw-clenching and teeth grinding when stressed or upset was ingrained in me from childhood. One of my parents already has chipped teeth from tooth grinding due to this unhealthy habit. Take care of your teeth peeps!

[@MnM_ASMR]

@@thesentienttoadstool9369 Glad its helping! You have to do it consciously to retrain your brain so it learns to stop clenching. I also find ice packs work best if my TMJ is flaring up and my temples are hurting cuz it kills the inflammation better than heat (at least for me).

[@lizzardsz]

Oh my goodness the room you’re in is so lovely and cozy!! Also for what it’s worth, you’re so beautiful! you have a very similar jawline to mine, and It makes me feel better about my own insecurity with my jawline when I can see it as so lovely on someone else. It’s scary to think everyone might all look the same one day and lose all the sweet little differences in ourselves

[@Revolutionary1821]

what I sometimes think about is how in Tudor (and other eras!) portraits you’ll see so many soft jaws and double chins-and these were idealized portraits of their subjects, so it’s something intentionally left in. beauty standards change so much throughout time. I sometimes joke that with my round face and double chin I would’ve been the hottest shit in town back in ye olde day

[@SilvrRazorFeather]

3:30 oh it drives me nuts when "plus sized models" for clothing sites have "skinny" faces and flat stomachs. I've helped my gf shop online for clothes and she said at one point "why can't i pull off an outfit like that??" And I'm like. Babe. It's cuz those women are photoshopped.

[@ireniaks]

And some of them use padding so they look proportionally fat, but with a model pretty face

[@wendyamsterdam8482]

The flat tummy is probably lipo and that fat added to the butt

[@Zectifin]

@@ireniaks or like Tess Holliday who 100% got chin lipo.

[@tiffanyferg]

The photoshop, the padding, vanity sizing, and the fact that everyone carries weight differently … makes shopping almost impossible!

[@selunescorpio]

9:08 People think giving unsolicited advice on the internet is just them helping someone out, but OP didn’t ask you to degrade their self image or tear down their physical appearance. This rudeness is beyond insufferable.

[@shabamflam]

I read some of a book called Eve by Cat Bohannan. At one point she mentioned that there is evidence to suggest that our fat deposits may have specific "duties" and are more important than we realize. I can't remember exactly what but she mentioned the under chin fat specifically being important for women and that tidbit put it in a whole new light for me. It's SO COOL to think about what we don't yet know/understand about our bodies, and what harm we could be doing to them unknowingly with all these fat removal surgeries. Anyways, learning about our biology helps me see and appreciate my body for it's much higher purpose, being my vessel I experience life in, not just a picture for others to admire.

[@hannahysabelle]

My mom treated me to a medspa so I could get a massage&facial and when I turned over to lay on my back the esthetician pinched my double cheek and asked if I wanted to get rid of "this" and they can even take care of it that same day. I didn't go through with it, but I hated how much I really thought about it for the rest of the massage AND how accessible and normal it was that they would just offer a pretty big procedure like that.

[@kkmarzipan]

That’s awful! A practitioner should never touch your body and suggest something to you unless you ask for those suggestions!

[@Difficultureshock]

I deeply appreciate your honesty and vulnerability. I have been obsessively mean to my jawline for more than half my life. I turned forty last year & it's such a waste of mental space. Gravity and genetics are inevitable. I am trying to just embrace the changes as a natural process of aging. I want to show my kids that beauty transcends the "looks- maxing" nonsense. It radiates from within no matter what my face/body evolves to look like.

[@tiffanyferg]

Waste of mental space is so true!!

[@kenzlovesfall]

Welcome back girl! ❤ I hope you’ve been enjoying your little one.

[@cenedra20]

A good way to fight the obsession is to find good counter-thoughts. Like "thank you body for being there for me, thank you jaw for being a perfectly healthy jaw that does what I ask it to do" etc. Then each time you catch yourself thinking the negative thoughts, you answer with the good thoughts. It's been really helpful with my body issues (belly, in my case😔), and I recommend it!

[@sabrinadavis8355]

Offering big hugs from a fellow mom (of 2 gremlins)who was shocked at how drastically my body change really impacted my mental state and how I looked in the mirror... I'd get mad when my husband would say "don't criticize your body, our daughter will hear you" and while that's 1000% true and important, at the same time I still felt/feel it's important to validate that "grief" if you will of going through change and feeling like some bits of you aren't as you wish they were. I've been a mom for 6yrs now and slowly but surely I've been regaining and bettering my confidence despite not looking how I did pre-baby era. All the love to you, sis ❤

[@basilkat21]

Braces have helped me with this. Its crazy how an improper bite can mess with your breathing and jaw placement

[@jessn.3851]

I always disliked my smile, because even though I had braces on my top row when I was younger, the dentist took my braces off while one canine was much higher and said I didn't need a retainer. So now I'm doing invisalign, and finding out my bite has been off this entire time, which is why it was uncomfortable and I tended to chew food one one side or the other. Now I'm doing invisalign, and I'm happy with how much better my smile looks each tray, and I can tell my bite will eventually improve.

[@BooksStuffbooks]

An interesting thing about insecurities is that others don’t notice them or think about them at all. It’s always just ourselves knocking ourselves down and obsessing over it

[@suiko619]

I know this is none of my business, but I am so proud of you for NOT doing it AND for talking about NOT doing it. It is important to spread this kind of message especially from people who have this insecurity and are very tempted to do it. And to everyone who needs to hear it: your chin is FINE and you are beautiful! So don't do it!

[@MushroomHat]

I’ve spent my whole life belittling my looks, I’ve learnt to accept my jawline which has absolutely no definition. Maybe I could have it changed cosmetically, but then my face wouldn’t be mine anymore. I’d rather accept my flaws than see a stranger in the mirror.

[@monbub]

this is exactly how I feel, thanks for saying it out loud.

[@kweenychick32]

tiff i wish i had something more profound to say but i truly just appreciate your honesty and vulnerability. Thank you and congratulations on your baby!

[@ellapietsch3609]

Honestly, I appreciate that you are willing to say that you still feel that you want to change your face and that you envy others. Like, I'm sure we're all trying to be enlightened or whatever, but the reality is I wish I had a single chin 🤷Love your work!

[@sasamafrass]

That woman talking about everyone's face deformities that she seems to be making up seems like a scam 🤔

[@Ykoz2016]

Tiffany You look BEAUTIFUL I know your job requires you to look at yourself all the time, much more then is normal, and that encourages you to pick yourself apart. But that also makes you an unreliable narrator. Take it from someone, a fellow woman, a slightly older woman, who sees you every time you post a video. Which I watch to hear your thoughts and research on a topic, not to judge and analyze the face that’s forming those words. You are perfectly lovely just the way you are. And in ten years you will look back at photos from this time and see the truth of it. You will see how pretty you are and be pissed that you didn’t enjoy it at the time. So do future you a favor. Pretend you just time traveled from a much older you into your present body. And enjoy it. See yourself through her eyes. Or my eyes. Or, like you already said, your daughter’s eyes. I promise you she thinks you are beautiful and she is smarter right now then most people online. So believe me. Please. (And remember it’s a slippery slope. You think this one surgery will fix things but soon enough you’ll think of something else to fix, to go with your new jaw line, and having crossed that line of thinking you’re more likely to give in a second time. It does not end. So please know there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with you and you don’t need to be fixed.) ❤️🫂

[@maggiemurphy4092]

This is such a beautiful sentiment!

[@tiffanyferg]

Thank you, I appreciate all of this! 💛

[@matchl1273]

If you daughter (or any possible other children) inherits your jawline, I think you might be happy at the thought that it will connect you (and even any grandchildren down the line) for as long as you have it. I have thin eyebrows (that have obviously not been fashionable in recent years), but my grandmother that I loved dearly had the same eyebrows. Everytime I look at them I see her in myself. We share many things (a name, love of learning, sense of humour,etc.) but I love that there is also this visible, tangible thing that makes us part of each other. I didn't love her because she was conventionally beautiful, but because she was (faults and all) a wonderful human being.

[@elizabethvanlaeken2174]

14:15 I guarantee that someone who uses their mouth constantlyyyy to sing (and singing requires more careful diction than speaking) does not have delinquent lip muscles or whatever tf she said. She’s probably just trying to avoid getting yelled at for RBF

[@kelsielawhorn]

everyone just really needs to work to unlearn fatphobia tbh. Appreciate softness. Unfollow people who make you feel bad about yourself. Your value is not in your appearance it’s in how you treat people and what you offer the world. Easier said than done but I think we really need to work on reducing the growing superficiality in our culture and it starts within us.

[@andreat6882]

This was my biggest insecurity! I got the lipo done in November and I’m happy with the results, but I’m still not happy with how I look, and it made me realize how no matter what I get done I probably won’t be happy with how I look.

[@sincerelyalex28]

Kelly Gooch just did a good video that’s tangentially related, more so from the angle of how beauty procedures have overtaken the makeup community as a way to “save time later”

[@elizamartin4263]

Yes!

[@daydreamz618]

It's just so hard. It feels like everyone on the internet has an amazing jaw. Every inspo pic on the whole internet feels unatainable because no matter what I can't look like any of those people. And then being queer and in the closet too. Cursed to be forever round and never angular

[@emmasmith7009]

Hey friend! As a closeted queer gal who also has a very round face I definitely feel this. I held off on cutting my hair short for years because all of the pictures were of people with super sharp jaws and without long hair my chin would be on full display. After now having short hair for two years now I can confidently say it was one of the best decisions of my life. All that to say I have no clue about your specific problems, but you should know you’re not alone. Find ways to be true to yourself despite your insecurities, and they won’t go away, but you’ll be much happier. Hang in there. We’re in this together

[@ANAnomalous1]

Great time for thin to be back in: We're facing global food shortages (due to fallow earth, temperature swings, flooding, fires, zoonotic disease) that will likely only get worse as times go by. At this point in time, thin is looking like a bad plan for longevity.

[@lawliet6910]

Regret to announce I think about this all the time

[@camocat2038]

We have enough food, it is an excess of food waste (Throwing it out rather than selling it at less profitable prices.) that is the primary problem. Not that environmental disasters and our food production practices aren't a problem though.

[@thunderandreign]

00:28 i paid $4k in 2016 to have my biggest physical insecurity vanish (ears stuck out). Never regretted it for a second.

[@spikey5281]

In some countries, this surgery is even covered by health insurance because it is a huge insecurity for most people who have ears like this, and is done even at a young age to avoid bullying. I'm glad you're no longer suffering :)

[@jaclynmccosker]

I think ear pinning is a bit of a unique one since it’s famously a source of childhood bullying and one of the only cosmetic procedures they do to little kids. When so many other cosmetic procedures are just private, internal insecurities that people are battling in the face of changing beauty trends.

[@creativequince]

I feel ALL of this so deeply. I've hated my "fat chin" for literally decades. My mom and I used to say that we were going to get "chin lifts" together. As a 30-something, I worked in the fashion world and mewing was standard in photos, before it was a thing in the social media realm. I would show models how to do it to give them a tighter, more pronounced jawline.

[@irynasbondar]

I am in the same headspace about it. It has always been my only insecurity. I've always had it, even as a sickly 98lbs teenager. I do know people who did this lipo procedure and it didn't help at all, so that's what's keeping me more or less settled in my appearances. Thank you for sharing. It is nice to know someone experiencing the same exact stupid issue.

[@mai_komagata]

this video is about me. I think this video + the cost is the only thing that is making me not get chin lipo. I feel the body positivity movement is so good at showing diverse bodies, but so bad at ever highlighting fat faces. you can be fat but you cannot look chubby. And Ironically i like my body at my current weight a lot more than when im super skinny. I just hate my chin. Ironically, I get botox for migraines even though i have ZERO insecurities about wrinkles and would not mind those at all. I feel I wasted all my diligent sunscreen use and good genetics bc now everyone is gonna say i just got botox. :(

[@gpgp1841]

Same!!! I had such a journey with accepting my body after gaining weight and recovering from chronically dieting aka EDs but the chin is one thing I can't get over 😢 and I'm 35 and I'm constantly saying this to myself that I would take wrinkles any day over a chubby face (maybe also because most of my life I had a rather defined cheekbones and chin). Still a lot of work to be done for self-acceptance...

[@raspberryitalia3464]

I'm sorry you're struggling with your self image, it's such a tough head space to be in. I just want to share that the first time I ever experienced self-hatred and verbalized it as a child, I realized the phrase I used to criticize myself was the exact same phrase I heard my mother use to talk down about herself. And I sat with this discordant emotion of finding my mother to be the most beautiful, precious woman in the world, so why did she hate herself? And if I hated myself in the same way, did that mean I was actually as beautiful as I perceived her to be? Try to remember that your daughter sees you as the most beautiful person, and keep striving for body neutrality. Neutrality has saved me over and over again. It's a hard fight but worth it every time.

[@catw9478]

I had chin lipo and also a small implant to make my profile a little more balanced. I don’t think it’s feminist or body positive but I wanted it and I’ll never lie about getting it done. I think my big takeaways are that it did make a difference but not a big one because you still have anatomy and other reasons like avoiding those complications that put limits on the procedure so not everyone can get a giga-chad chin out of it. It was my biggest of several insecurities and it helped but also didn’t. I don’t want a nose job anymore because I do think it balanced my nose with my face but I also still don’t love seeing myself in pictures or profile. Double chins come from all kinds of angles, posture, and just being alive that I think are pretty unavoidable for most people, like not having a 6 pack 24/7. I’m glad I went with a full procedure instead of kybella and filler because I trust a full surgeon more and I wouldn’t have to get the filler touched up (not to mention all the new info about filler that’s come out since then like never fully dissolving). The recovery isn’t fun but changing your face shouldn’t be a quick thing you do on your lunch break. It’s a big deal. I definitely had some dysmorphia afterwards and it wasn’t even something I could notice looking headfirst into the mirror so I definitely think I wasn’t the best candidate for it with my body image issues but I did get used to it as the swelling went down. Lastly, I didn’t attempt anything to fix my double chin beforehand like gua sha or working on my posture and regardless of if those things actually would have worked I don’t regret my decision. But surgery shouldn’t be anyone’s first resort because it isn’t going to magically fix everything. Your body is still a body and unless you’re doing a complete overhaul or working with a bad surgeon, you have limitations that shouldn’t be tested so you don’t have negative side effects. Sorry for the novel

[@ljean5471]

I'm also about to turn 28 and have been recently thinking the same thing, it's tough. Like you, I've never really thought much about getting work done until this, this video really resonates with me! Thank you for making this video because dang is it tempting!

[@daniellawinse5773]

this is something I really grappled with when I had an eating disorder as a teen-- and I made a vow to myself that I would never get elective plastic surgery because I didn't know what insecurities I might have as an adult, especially as I recovered, and I didn't want to allow myself "just one little procedure". I wanted to instead have to do the work of liking myself as I was and getting over an insecurity.

[@monbub]

this video is way too relatable for me. recently, I've been feeling bad about my chin even more than usual and I kept looking at pictures of myself trying to figure out if anything changed or if it's just me hating myself. anyways, thanks for making this video and talking about your own experiences with insecurity. tbh looking at your face makes me feel a bit more comfortable with my own chin. I like seeing people similar to me, it helps. it's part of why I don't use instagram or tiktok, I can't stand to see "perfect" people.

[@foamsoap41]

Loving yourself is a radical act.

[@manueltomas2847]

i know people can tell you this 100 times and you won’t believe it because you can’t see it yourself, but honestly i think your jaw suits your face and you look beautiful as is, i really see no need to “correct” anything. yet i understand the feeling because i have the same exact insecurity and would consider getting some of these things done. WHY ARE WE LIKE THIS

[@jewel3032]

don’t do it! you’re beautiful as you are! 💗 you can think of not doing the procedure as your act of resistance. i also think it could be helpful to pay attention to how regular people look when you’re out and about instead of hyper fixating on how influencers look 💗 i’ve dealt with my own body insecurities and fixations and it also helps to practice catching and stopping yourself when you notice that you’re staring in the mirror/taking pictures/comparing/etc and spiraling. i’ve been there 🙃

[@_maia_m]

You deserve so much cred, Tiffany, both for talking about this so openly, and for not getting a procedure. We see less and less people who have not gotten any procedures done, and it has such a great impact on us, no matter our age. I'm 40 now, and when I was in my teens, it was rare enough that everyone knew that kind of looks were unrealistic. Now it's everywhere. Seeing a natural face on KZbin makes a huge difference for so many people, and most of all, it will make a world of difference for your daughter ❤

[@fullmetalpucca]

So many of your video topics hit me so close to home. My double chin is my biggest insecurity and I've been looking into lipo and kybella for like 2 years now 😭

[@egleeim]

You are beautiful. You are a normal human being. It is a joy to see natural beauty on the internet. I am very sorry that you are feeling insecure.

[@v_bunny]

so when mewing became a trend it really surprised me. as a kid, my mom trained me and my brother to hold our tongues to the roofs of our mouths by using cheerios because our dentist recommended us to learn for best mouth posture. so to hear that not many people were taught that, especially as a kid, really surprised me!

[@tressymart]

This video and the one mina Le posted today are a blessing tbh Tiffany I totally understand how you feel, I did cave into my obsession with rhinoplasty, I was thinking about it for years until it reached a point where It became an obsession for me for two years, I booked 4 consultations and ended up getting it done. I would recommend going to a psychologist and talking about it since it can help clear up your head on where is this coming from, it helped me feel grounded with my decision (I personally dont regret it but I did take my time to research extensively). you must do what aligns with your happiness and makes you feel in peace.

[@flora6967]

Strongly appreciate your vulnerability and honesty, thank you for this video! The point about not passing insecurities to your daughter really resonated with me, she's lucky to have you as a mom. And for what it's worth, I've watched your videos for years and never noticed anything about your chin. I also hyperfixate on parts of my body that others might not even look twice at, so I wish you the best in that journey ❤

[@donnaokane502]

Excellent video! Love the writing, humor as well as the vulnerability! Could tell this was a personal topic for you.

[@thatshowiroland]

proud of you for being vulnerable (aka brave) about [sharing] this, and ur resistance! which is your strength!

[@mumenRhyder]

I used to be really insecure about my double chin. Then i started to think about my chin as a friend so now when im feeling insecure and think about changing it i immediately get offended like why would i want to get rid of my bestie

[@studyingmonster2745]

OMG congrats on your baby!!!!! I was like youre doing laundry for yourself and WHO????? This is so exciting i wish you both the best

[@ameliegreen13]

thank you. this video choked me up a little bit because I've been going down this rabbit hole recently, too. feeling seen.. and silly hearing my own thought process out loud 😅

[@ohnoourtableitsbroken6527]

Thank you for deciding to resist the urge!! Good on u Tiffany 👏

[@Sylvanwater]

The mewing thing is so funny to me because my dentist would make me do those exercises as a kid since I wasn’t swallowing properly

[@marishlo]

I was going to say something similar, they told me to practice that tongue position because I would rest my tonue on my front teeth and it was giving me an overbite, this was like 25 years ago lol

[@Sylvanwater]

@ exact same situation for me lol, I still have an overbite but I think it closed up a little in the last year

[@vannychee]

Me too, but I had a crossbite! The thing is, keeping your tongue at the roof of your mouth is just the standard tongue position when at rest. In typical grift fashion, what the guy who created "mewing" did was to just add some unnecessary shit (like applying pressure) to pretend like he has created something ✨new✨

[@Wes-Tyler]

@@vannycheethe tongue only rests on the roof of the mouth if you have correct head and neck posture (for example, not forward head posture) AND have enough tongue space from a palette wide enough to allow the tongue to rest there. He also says in many videos NOT to apply pressure 🙄

[@star-cruiser-stella]

Omg omg I just checked earlier today if you posted something and I got rewardedddd

[@RedNailsRedDress]

Thank you for pointing out how our culture is so involved in beauty standards. Whenever I see neurologists they instantly always think something is wrong with me because I researched botox for migraines and decided I wasn't comfortable with it. My doctors always just say how "it's probably harmless long term if it works for you, and you might never have forehead wrinkles" I feel as though these beauty standards have even sort of infected doctors offices at this point. I'm allowed to decline a treatment and should not be judged for it 🤔

[@CatastropheCat97]

I take Botox for migraines because nothing else has worked so far (not totally sure the Botox is either, but I think it’s helping). My doctor is fine with my not getting the forehead injections - I like being able to move my eyebrows. I agree that it’s so weird that “you might not get wrinkles in your forehead because the muscles are frozen” is supposed to be like a bonus. No??? I just want to not have 5 migraines a week, thanks.

[@RedNailsRedDress]

@CatastropheCat97 Glad it's working for you! Thanks for commenting, maybe next time I can ask about only getting scalp and neck done

[@Theupoy]

Thank you for your openness and honesty. Your video is very relatable and just further inspires me to try to see my inherent value just by existing, rather than paying the "pretty tax" and succumb to pressure to look a certain way.

[@CharlotteHardy]

I love that you talked about this openly. I’ve been feeling the same thing- obsessively checking different surgeries, started with lip fillers then I got hooked on thinking about other things that would improve my appearance etc., I also haven’t done anything with it yet but im here with you! The main things holding me back are the cost and the idea that doing it feels also a bit like a loss? Like I purposely got rid of a part of myself that is naturally there and harmless? I feel the guilt and pressure to love these things about myself too. We will figure it out! But im sorry that you feel so low in your self image, and pregnancy is such an amazing body capability and it will take time but you will come back to yourself and feel at home again:)

[@microgatos]

one of the reasons i love your channel is that you're very open about your mental processes and your emotions regarding a topic. as a trans person, i have been painfully aware of all the shapes my body disappoints me with since i was a teen (i'm in my mid-30s now). the part about "aligning with incel spaces means i'm in a very bad mental space" girl. girl you gave me a tool to stop obsessing over mewing. there's also something with our traits being genetic... after a friend got a bichectomy (buccal fat removal), i thought he looked amazing and wanted to try it myself... until i remembered "hey. hey round faces run in the family. this is the same face my father and my brother have. it's fine." it takes SO MUCH WORK to break these spells!!

[@roxnaaaa]

I used to have similar thoughts about my nose. "It's my father's nose; I should be proud of it." "Getting surgery would be frivolous and completely unnecessary." "What if something went wrong? I'd never forgive myself." "I want my kids to understand these aren't real defects, just things society has labeled as unflattering or unattractive." But when I turned 25, I decided to get the nose job. It had taken up way too much mental space in my life. Every time I was outside or talking to someone, I felt like their eyes were always on my nose. I was constantly self-conscious about my profile, and it became exhausting. Anyway, I went through with it, and I don’t regret it at all. I don’t think about my nose anymore. It’s not perfect, but I don’t care, it’s so much better than it used to be. Honestly, not obsessing over it anymore is such a relief. I’m not saying it’s the right choice for everyone, I completely understand why some people choose not to cave to those feelings. But for me, the peace of mind has been worth it. I don't plan on having any other procedures, and I don’t use Botox or anything like that. I’ve come to realize most people don’t really notice or care about things like your nose or your chin. It's your own perception that becomes exhausting to deal with. For me, the mental relief was life-changing.

[@jessn.3851]

I think by your 20's you'll be able to tell if you want to change your nose or not. I personally always disliked my smile. When I was younger I had braces on my top row, but for some reason they left one of my canines too high, and I thought it looked awful. I thought I should just deal with it, that I was just being superficial to care about it. But I'm doing Invisalign now and I'm just so happy as I see that canine come down millimeter by millimeter, and wish I had done it sooner. Now if only I could burn family photos from when I was a teenager...

[@Denise-ni4us]

I feel every word you said ❤

[@astraynaught9343]

My parents were HUUUUGE haters. BIIIG bullies. They'd point out strangers on the street, point out all the small things about their kids, put us against each other, they had favourites. And noooooo it didn't mess up my personal mental image at alllll (sarcasm lmao). Also fun sidenote; I'd been mewing for years (while photo-taking) bc I had heard about a "modelling secret" for looking "skinnier" (which the person didn't name), only to learn the history of I was doing through INCEL CULTURE like a year (or two?) ago. The absolute shock to my system, I CANNOT express how that felt 😂😂

[@silkisnothere]

I know this isn’t how insecurities work but… I’ve watched you for the past 5 years at least since the college requirements video and I never even thought about your jawline once. You’ve always looked nice! But then again, I was also taking countless pictures of myself at different angles over the same insecurity last year so… i get it. These things always feel 10x worse on yourself rather than on other people. Regardless, this video is very real and I appreciate that!

[@HendoArt]

I think about getting this procedure done all the time too and am also mainly motivated by hoping to NOT pass on that kind of thinking to my potential children 😭 thank you for this it's cathartic for me too

[@Kshahrewa_r]

I was underweight for 3 years due to my chronic health issues and I found that my favorite part of myself was how my face and jaw looked. I am now slightly overweight and really struggling with my face and chin. I'm not insecure of my body AT ALL, just my chin, which I find very interesting.

[@thomasconway95]

Tiffany, you don't need any work done, omg, you look great!

[@thebestalpal]

no commentary on this video bc I agree with you, the “curse” of a double chin has been like. my main point of contention for my appearance and I’m over it ❤ also last year my mother was apparently followed the glasses store around by a small child who kept mewing at her. she was so confused and thought this child was like, signaling for help? mewing really does have consequences

[@eggbu77]

Thanks Tiffany. My double chin has always been an insecurity of mine, I have it even when I’m lighter, and your points of not getting chin lipo have also been on my list and I think this just cemented my decision of not getting it done.

[@daniellawinse5773]

this is so real. I have been through a very similar journey, thank you for speaking to this

[@sierrabarry6864]

Tiffany you are youtube icon, of course I watch your videos the same day you post ❤

[@lindsaygarcia7745]

Thank you so much for making this video. The comment about your wedding photos nearly being ruined was so relatable to me. The first time I looked at my wedding photos I almost cried because I could only focus on the things I didn’t like about how I looked, and I thought I was supposed to feel perfect. It’s unfortunate that so many of us deal with these insecurities, but it’s really helpful to hear other people honestly talk about it and how relentless it can be in your own brain. Glad I’m not alone.

[@ceceh9742]

I got a coolsculpting procedure on my chin after becoming fixated on how my chin looked on zoom calls (which became increasingly common at my work after covid). I instantly regretted spending that much money on an insecurity that I still have after the process

[@prolificwriter]

I think it’s so important to talk about this subject, especially as a woman and mother. I want to thank you for sharing and being so vulnerable, but I wanted to say that though I’m glad you’re considering all the downsides to getting work done, either how it will effect your daughters view on beauty standards, your audience, or the direct side effects of the procedure, I just want to remind you that in the end it’s your body and getting a procedure done is your choice. Whether people are saying you should or shouldn’t get work done, it should ultimately be up to you what you do with your body that could improve your life and self image. For the record generally I’m against cosmetic surgery, I think most of the time it’s unnecessary and very invasive and dangerous, but I also recognize when it’s necessary. Not exactly in terms of whether they need the procedure to look better, but that if they get that procedure that it will improve their quality of life. Of course, I only know a fraction of what you’ve gone through with your own beauty journey, but I felt the need to share just hearing how much you were struggling with your self image. At the end of the day, this is just advice from a random stranger on the internet, so always make sure you end up doing what you feel is most comfortable and right for yourself, without the influence of others. I do see the irony in this comment lol Great video and insights as always! Sending much love ❤️

[@emahase7284]

It's so lovely to have you back! ❤

[@pimpgrizzle]

Keep fighting the good fight, Tiff!

[@iristerhorst598]

I respect your courage, honesty and vulnerability in this video. Even though it might not be part of the beauty standards in contemporary society - it should, because true beauty radiates from the inside. And I just want to remind you of that. It’s so sad that beauty ideals can cause such big insecurities. But Tiffany you are beautiful in my eyes!

[@danschrute5646]

This is exactly the video that I needed to see today, I just had a dentist appointment where I was told that I had a high palate and was resting my tongue against my teeth rather than on the roof of my mouth where it's supposed to go. They said it can cause all sorts of issues like grinding my teeth, breathing through my mouth at night, bags under my eyes, and pushing my teeth out of place over time. I literally spent half the day criticizing every little part of my face and worrying but after watching this video I feel so much better. It's so painful to see other people experiencing the weight of these impossible beauty standards but it does make me feel less alone, so thank you Tiffany for sharing! :D

[@QueenZsWorld]

thanks for your transparency

[@CatherineGraffam]

I think the fairly universal fixation on one part of your body you hate, like having a 'double chin', is a good entry point for gaining perspective of how trans women fit into this conversation, but to the extreme. The need or pressure to undergo facial surgeries is both medical and societal. On a personal level it can make you not want to crawl out of your skin everytime you see yourself (like it did for me), but like think about that one insecurity you have about your face, and now imagine that everywhere you go people DO -actually- look directly at that insecurity, whispering about it to their friends, harassing you for it, boil your whole existence down to it, and want to incite violence because they see you as subhuman for it. That is (for me) what the feedback loop of gender dysphoria has been like while existing in a deeply misogynistic society with unattainable beauty standards. More is at stake for trans women (and other marginalized groups) to fit into it because otherwise you could die, exasperating the feeling of needing to undergo surgery to be -perfect-. But we all lose under an impossible standard.

[@rebeccav1318]

You are so real for sharing this, thank you!! This reminds me of the amazing deep dive you did on our obsession over perfect teeth. There is so much power in knowing we are not alone in the insecurities that get pushed onto us by the culture around us.

[@bittybittybit]

im a HEAVILY tattooed person with a neck/throat tattoo. i had a blackout done above the existing tattoo up to my jawline and under my chin. extremely happy with it, i can stand candid photos of myself now. way cheaper than lipo.

[@kezia8027]

Who knew the bruxism from my constant anxiety was just my body mewing in my sleep! I guess I'm something of a sigma myself...

[@Wes-Tyler]

Mewing actually prevents bruxism

[@kimberlym6392]

It’s so crazy how we can perceive ourselves so differently. Imperfections have become “problems.” I look at you and always have thought you are pretty, and I would’ve never known of that insecurity. I think it’s healthy to acknowledge our insecurities but realize that it’s okay to look the way we do. I’m so thankful that my mom never bashed her appearance and instilled the message that we are all beautiful the way we are.

[@keyarrma]

omg i've gained weight over the past two years (combo of reaching 20 + working at panera bread) and genuinely the face weight and my chin has been what's given me the most self image problems - this video is so timely too because i just got two of my wisdom teeth taken out and obviously my jaw is swollen and hoooo boy it's rough to look in a mirror rn, i literally bought a gua sha and face roller after years of not really caring but it's also so poignant bc i would never notice your chin the way i dissect my own, you look great and i'm glad you and baby are healthy!

[@maggiemurphy4092]

I had no idea jawlines were so in these days, i definitley noticed "skinny" being trendier but never even noticing the jawlines. If i could change anything about my jaw i would fix my TMJ 😭 Thank you for this video! It must be so scary to put yourself out there like this but its so important to hear. We all are in this world hating ourselves together, my most beautiful friends mention they think about getting work done. I think you are so strong and so beautiful (as cheesy as it sounds) and really appreciate your experiences.

[@1996Usi]

You are such a beautiful, intelligent and empathetic human being, and we are lucky to have you here, Tiffany. Thank you for this video 🤍

[@Famagust]

Hello Tiffany!👋🏻 I just want to say that this video hit home and I have been thinking about this too in my entire adulthood😮‍💨 So I know your struggles with these "should I" thoughts. THANK YOU for finally mentioning the plus size models that NEVER have a double chin, never had & never will, I thought of that since I was just a teen back in the 90s, it's just absurd how this "big ladies" have no double chin at all, so thank you for putting a light on that darkness. However, if you never had mentioned your double chin I would never notice it, Im honest and no way you need it! Why? My friend's mother did a liposuction and you might think that was "permanent" but no, the chin came back! Not right away but maybe 3 years after, it was back again, so it's not a permanent solution as you might think. The fat cells grew back and found their way. The Evangelist-story is just terrifying but a good example when procedures destroy everything. I never had any procedures on my chin, just like you it has been an obsession but its just not worth it and when I saw my friend's mother double chin that came back it was just a proof that nothing really helps. I realize that if I just have long hair with more volume on the side it creates a shadow down on the sides of my neck which does hide my double chin a lot. I have had super short hair back in the days and that was sadly a big no for me cuz that will only show the chin more. Don't do it, another thing you got that is amazingly perfect is your lips/mouth, sadly mine is small and look angry all the time, that combo with my chin has been hard but you know what? It could have been worse😂 Have a good day!

[@inamk3735]

My friend has a pretty big nose and struggled with accepting and loving this part of herself. She told me recently that as a child she always wondered where she got her nose from because both her parents had small noses. She used to ask her mom but never really got a satisfying answer until she was about 13. Then her mom told her that she had actually gotten a nose job before my friend was born and that's why their noses looked different from one another. She always says the knowledge that her mother disliked the nose she inherited enough to change it made it especially hard for her to love the way her face looked. When you mentioned your daughter this just immediately came to mind and I wanted to share.

[@laurtheonly4980]

I love this video so much. I didn’t even know I had a double chin until a couple months back my son took a photo of me while standing next to me. He was five and obviously shorter than I am, and the double chin was PRONOUNCED. I immediately went to the bathroom mirror and was horrified- how long has this been a thing? How often have other people noticed? How can I make it go away? But then I stopped. However long this has been noticeable, I hadn’t noticed it. It wasn’t affecting me in any way. Im spending time now relaxing into “ it is what it is “ and that’s working. There are only so many days I get to have on this earth and I’m not spending any more fussed about something I didn’t even know was going on. Thanks for being so open and honest, we need more of that 💕