The Rise of Metal Gear Solid

[@Kirusei]

My friend likes to imagine that Twin Snakes is just Otacon retelling the story through his view

[@0Chino13]

well, there is an easter egg in twin snakes where you can see one of the "Targets" of the mgs2 vr mode in Rex's hangar, that's why i like to say that this is how raiden went though shadow moses in his simulations.

[@loregasmic]

iT's LiKe OnE oF My JaPaNeSe aNiMeS

[@donkeykongisytpooping3002]

@@0Chino13 That was a misplaced object. It’s not supposed to be there. Also it’s been proven that Twin Snakes can’t be a VR simulation because of a codec call from the Colonel in MGS2 which talks about the different sniper rifle controls.

[@lordDEEEZ]

Makes total sense

[@magnawaves]

That's the popular idea not just him

[@EliasCassab]

Refreshing to see a MGS retrospective that is less than an hour long

[@shawklan27]

A props to not adding unnecessary filler to artificially increase the video's runtime aka giving a whole wiki read of the game's development

[@sunburst8810]

@@shawklan27 KZbinrs that just read off wikis are seriously getting on my nerve

[@panthekirb7561]

@@sunburst8810 Tell me about it. Most KZbinrs from certain countries such as my own (Poland) tend to copy paste western content or just read wiki articles. Zero passion, effort or research. That's why I only watch content in English 99% of the time.

[@PaperStarship]

my 2.5 hour MGS2 vid finds this comment offensive 😂

[@bradl.602]

Okay, but Steak's MGS video sits above those others!

[@PhiltheMean]

Fun fact: the setting of MGS3 is in Tajikistan which does have subtropical forests. Even in modern day Russia, southern Siberia has a temperate rain forest. The amount of territory Russia controls is pretty mind-blowing.

[@J_AlsoKnownAsJ]

is it a fact or a theory? I think people try to make sense of things in video game by ignoring developers can make things up; like a jungle in the soviet union.

[@PhiltheMean]

@@J_AlsoKnownAsJ The animal life in Snake Eater is pretty dang unrealistic but there are definitely rainforest in parts of Russia that are in Asia. The southern border of Siberia has some diverse ecosystems.

[@PaperStarship]

@@J_AlsoKnownAsJ umm that’s not where the jungle design came from. There are some areas based on irl locations but they’re not from Russia. Kojima and his team scouted various Islands throughout Japan, and forests in Canada that were known for their lush flora and fauna. Drawing inspiration to create their own unique wildlife environment. With some locales remaining virtually unchanged in their video game adaptation: places like the Yakushima forest bridge or the Amami Oshima mangroves that would in turn become the Dolinovodno bridge and The Sorrows River.

[@BobExcalibur]

@@PhiltheMean The biodiversity in 3 is explained in one of the conversations Snake can have with Paramedic on the subject of the crocodiles; a lot of the fauna were imported to study the effects of radiation upon them and allowed to escape into the local biome due to neglect. It sets up a neat thematic parallel with Snake and The Boss having been victims of radiation exposure themselves. Every Metal Gear game has some detail that makes the enemies you evade and fight have parallels with the protagonist that make them more sympathetic than initial impressions might provoke, and in 3 that same consideration extends to the wildlife.

[@PhiltheMean]

@@PaperStarship This makes sense. I was just trying to make a point that actually yeah, there is jungle in Russia. It's not all frozen tundra. I'm all for Kojima taking creative license with locales. I'm a big Death Stranding defender and I have no problem at all with the US being turned into Iceland because time rain.

[@blondesummer7980]

K-Bash: "Cutscenes in MGS1 and 2 are too long!" MGS4: *Nervous laughter*

[@hemangchauhan2864]

MGS2's sharp level of writing (when it's not into silly antics) is attributed to Agness Kaku, the game's English localizer. She was very well read in international politics, sociology, military and related topics. Highly recommend reading more about her.

[@Konradix05]

You got any article in particular to recommend?

[@Ro_Morgen]

​@@Konradix05a little late, but there's an interview to her in the website hardcoregaming101 She's extremely critical with Kojima.

[@AC-hj9tv]

You get that article ready yet?

[@lifecloud009]

Clinched fists and pissed pants Is the only way to remember MGS3 Haha.

[@jeuryrabassa9534]

And CQC.

[@ZioName]

About MGS2 and horror... First time I played the game, I remember that I had been playing for like 5-6 hours and I was in the Arsenal Gear. Then, that Codec Call happened, and the "Colonel" was like "Shut the console down! You've been playing for too long!". I almost shat myself, god.

[@terrenceswiff]

As for villain backstories, I don't think you're supposed to fully sympathize with them so much as go "eh, shit sucks". Psycho Mantis in particular is a *bastard*, he knows it, and that's it. He's a bastard to the end, though he does one vaguely nice thing

[@lohs117]

Same with Sniper Wolf, no one is crying about her and wishing she didn't go; we just understand better why she ended up where she was and keep her as a tragic memory

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

honestly I think MG RR might do the best job with it the villain backstories. They are about what lead them to this fight and usually also what lead them to becoming cyborgs and it's rarely a pleasant story but even though you don't like them automatically it let's you understand oh this is the tragedy of your life that lead you here or okay you've always just not really cared about x.

[@BobExcalibur]

Each game in the series has the characters (particularly villains) influenced mainly by the concept Kojima themed the story around. in 1, the GENE game, the bosses are the way they are because of the predisposition of their birth. Mantis couldn't help being psionically gifted, Raven was born to be a colossus, and so on. In 2, the MEME game, every character is a victim of nurture. Fortune wasn't a gifted soldier but became a military asset due to the engineered tragedy of her life and the opportunity that was placed before her. Vamp's powers are not innate but rather the product of nanoaugmentation. Fatman was granted knowledge and mentorship by a genius without moral consideration, resulting in his entitled persona. In 3, the SCENE game, the characters are victims of circumstance, or "the times" as The Boss puts it. Loyalty has made the Cobras an extension of The Boss's will with no agency of their own, Snake's support staff are all disgraced yet brilliant people whose unorthodox thinking would be vindicated by history (Sigint's technological prowess rejected because he's black, Paramedic's ideas about mobile medical soldiers eventually becoming widely adopted). Each of these threads connects to the protagonist, and encourage the player to consider how the human struggle is shared by every character, no matter how absurd or mundane they may be.

[@mikemcmullen5006]

I love how he got canned from konami and he took his crazy nonsense and cranked it up to 11. Ottacon peeing his pants? Fuck that, now there are antimatter ghosts and you gotta fight them with your own piss and shit.

[@Theomachist13]

"Kojima is the closest thing to an auteur in gaming" Suda 51: "Am I joke to you?"

[@LAGator-qu7tc]

You are a man of culture and bright ideas.

[@annedrieck7316]

Yokotaro:...

[@tequilawhiskey]

I think suda would welcome the title of of joke auteur.

[@larsnyman2455]

Isn’t that the Toho guy?

[@mercury2157]

*Yoko Taro has entered the chat*

[@fotdk1]

Mgs3 had a profound impact on me in 2006 as i watched the cheat episode of it on g4. Watching naked snake having close, yet non romantic relationship with the boss was something i didn't see in games.

[@Pwophet_of_Twuth]

The secret scene with EVA if you don’t remove Volgins transmitter

[@DeepestDankest]

19:12: "I'm betting there's a very talented writer Kojima hired..." You're right. Tomokazu Fukushima was co-writer for MGS1, 2, and 3 and then vanishes after that and things get even weirder for the franchise afterwards, especially 4

[@mercury2157]

"Correlation and causation, baby" The extent that we know about Fukushima's work on MGS2 specifically is that according to Kojima, Fukushima wrote all the optional codec calls and Kojima wrote all of the mandatory ones. My mans Steak Bentley suggested that it's definitely possible that Fukushima also contributed to keeping Kojima's ideas grounded, but we'll never know for certain

[@v-trigger6137]

I really wonder what happened to that guy, he just vanished. there is not a single trace of him since then, not even in online you can find anything good. makes me think whether that person actually exist or was he just a pseudonym for Kojima, to add extra credit so he could just get away that crew's salary lol

[@terrenceswiff]

An obscure thing that I literally only found so, so, SO many years after the fact is that you can find a parachute in the Sniper Wolf boss arena. Getting close to it, you get a call where Snake goes "yep, he survived. You can't parachute out of a crashing hind without special procedures: he left the parachute unused here like 'fuck you I lived'". Further the point of him surviving all that nonsense is of course, that in the end "fate" (a virus) kills him. It's nonsense but the things are addressed, I guess

[@smsry]

"It's nonsense but the things are addressed" Should've been the tagline for this series.

[@BobExcalibur]

Liquid is a character who completely wedded himself to the idea that one's biology determines everything about them. That his agency didn't exist and that his end would eventually play out as written in his genetic code. He saw that fate as "become the greatest warrior who has ever lived, become a messiah figure to every warrior in the world, change the global paradigm to 'benefit' warriors who have become persona-non-grata in the post-Cold War world". Introduce a virus that rewrites one's genetic code to "your heart cells commit sudoku and you die abruptly" and his ideology comes apart.

[@alesterphoenix]

"You're Pretty Good"

[@malik87breaker]

Your :P

[@jojonta2119]

@@malik87breaker Uh no it's "you're"

[@pysan3477]

@@jojonta2119 I'm pretty sure it's "u'r".

[@malik87breaker]

@@jojonta2119 hah! Gottcha. I was joking. I know Ocelots catch phrase. And it's spelled correct :D

[@malik87breaker]

@@jojonta2119 notice the ":P"

[@TeleporterDown]

MGS 2 had one of those endings where I kept thinking about it weeks after I beat it. Game is so good and really underrated

[@ahmedbenkhalfallah6502]

Seeing you fight snake eater bosses without depleting their stamina or fighting the boss without CQC "You're Not Pretty Good"

[@Sniperk1ng187]

If people use guns on The Boss then they're wrong

[@sticker4315]

I've been binge watching your channel so yea thanks

[@JackDout]

If the retrospective for mgs4 isn't 3 hours and 30 something minutes-

[@VictorHernandez-vc5zo]

You mean the same length as the gameplay in that game?

[@JackDout]

@@VictorHernandez-vc5zo Steak Bentley's Metal Gear Solid 3 was a mistake

[@BobExcalibur]

@@JackDout A lot of bad takes in that video.

[@JackDout]

@@BobExcalibur golden sun

[@papasmurf3569]

@@VictorHernandez-vc5zo that’s just one cut scene lol

[@thoreaukilbourne3911]

I like to think twin snakes is actually the shadow Moses simulation raiden plays through in 2. At this point he’s become mythologized and that’s why he’s super human in the game

[@malakai_adam]

Thank you for your service

[@gilrom5666]

Man mgs such a classic series

[@blackdragoncyrus]

The series in which its creator wanted to stop because he finished telling the story he wanted, but the fans kept going "Naw, more please."

[@malik87breaker]

And the death threat

[@radpunk5144]

MGS4 is literally the game where he said "I've done everything, resolved every conflict. Happy now?". And fans weren't happy enough. And MGSV is the pain. Just the pain

[@MugenHeadNinja]

@@radpunk5144 The Phantom Pain was quite literal, GZ was a cocktease, it gave us hope for the actual game despite how scummy it seemed at the time (which we can blane on Konami), but in a way, I think TPP was almost entirely intentional from Kojima and Co.

[@radpunk5144]

@@MugenHeadNinja Oh I sure don't think TPP was intentional from the start. Not like this. I still think there was creative differenced that pushed him to release the game like this. But it turned into this metaphor effortlessly. I hate GZ

[@Dead_Weight21]

Thought it was Konami that forced it

[@Denpasuzy]

"during each cutscene kojima manifests in front of my playing airplane with seratonin on a spoon" i already love this guy

[@Denpasuzy]

"i have no idea how im supposed to feel during cutscenes especially with bosses. every member of foxhound this group of elite supershoulders and each launch immediately into a teary monologue LIKE I CARE" "sniper wolf is even stranger. i think im supposed to like her because of the otacon stuff or because everyone else likes her but she TRIED TO SHOOT ME, definitely shot meryl, and tried to shoot me again. that's most of her screentime. i dont see the point of it in an action theme." "i dont see the point of it in an action theme. the game delivers its story fairly poorly with endless text overlong cutscenes and general nonsense" nevermind this guy suuuuuucks

[@GuyOnAChair]

10:48 That's one analogy for Twin Snakes I haven't heard yet! 🤣

[@kenjikuroiwa99]

Your joke at the start of te MGS3 section is the first time you have made laugh out loud.

[@MrKami123456]

Did you actually shoot that beehive to make it fall on Ocelot?? Genius.

[@speed_queen]

Fatman was actually given his code name after the same code name for the type of nuclear bomb that hit Nagasaki, Japan in 1945, not his weight, so still on the nose but not THAT on the nose.

[@datguyuno98]

Can't wait to see your take on 5, if you ever get there

[@Draggao]

I've been watching you recently,because i was interested in psp games,and searched about deept heaven games. Your channel is truly something unique and good,it kinda reminds me when things were good in 2014 or so,i know it doesn't matter too much,but i look forward to your videos and hope you are well. cheers mate.

[@MrSandmanTBB]

Kbash upload? Pog

[@chrisossu2070]

Funny thing about the over-the-top cutscenes in Twin Snakes. Originally, the cutscene director, action filmmaker Ryuhei Kitamura, wanted to make the cutscenes loyal to the original. Then Kojima came in and told him to direct the cutscenes more like how Kitamura would direct one of his movies, which is to say, to direct them like an over-the-top action movie.

[@Ckoz2829]

Am I the only one who liked the alternate ending of MGS 1 where Snake and Otacon ride off into the sunset? It just seems more natural to me and leads into the second game’s intro segment better.

[@suchayandas6136]

Hopefully you will cover prince of Persia someday

[@megachaosblast126]

Yes!

[@porassrivastava8242]

POP needs to come back even the reboot/reimagining was kinda good.

[@megachaosblast126]

@@porassrivastava8242 I'm really disappointed in how the Sand Of Time remaster turned out, it looks like a 360 game who thought this was ok

[@qsmith2514]

One of your best vids

[@nunothedude]

Man this guys on a roll

[@HarbingerH]

MGS3 Easily in my top 10 list of all time.

[@malik87breaker]

Can i hear your top 10?

[@HarbingerH]

@@malik87breaker Sure thing! 1. Ocarina of Time 2. RE4 3. Dark Souls 4. Bioshock 5. Ninja Gaiden Black 6. Halo 3 7. MGS3 8. TimeSplitters 2 9. ESIV Oblivion 10. Fire Emblem Awakening Kinda lol. Want to share yours?

[@malik87breaker]

@@HarbingerH top of my head. 1. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (subistence has better content, but i guess it's just a re-release with more and better content). 2. Final fantasy IX. 3. Tekken 5. 4. Soul Calibur 3. 5. Pokemon Guld/ silver. 6. Gran Turismo 4. 7. Chrono Trigger 8. Xenogears. 9. Wario ware inc. (gamecube version?) 10. Silent Hill 2. I don't think there is prober order. Some games that suprised me the last 10 years.

[@HarbingerH]

@@malik87breaker I’ve really been wanting to play the Silent Hill quadrilogy and Chrono Trigger. FF IX is the GOAT

[@malik87breaker]

@@HarbingerH Chrono Trigger is easy to get into. While Silent Hill games can be difficult without a guide. So before you play them. Be prepared if you want to take your time to figure the things on your own. Or just want to enjoy the stories. You won't be dissapointed if you go either way. But i'd say if you like to figure things on your own. Be prepared to be taking time. When you figured the puzzles out on your own. You could feel the satisfaction. After the hard time you had :D

[@actually-will1606]

Been wanting a good KZbin video to be recommended for ages. Then this appeared. Finally.

[@tilde4622]

Hopefully you cover mana khemia someday. Great video as always

[@GamerGuy249]

29:08 Is that actually in the game? That's got to be an edit, right?

[@DJWolfHouse]

Lmao

[@darkstamin1280]

Nope, it is in the game, and he does it two times

[@alleycatmoth]

yep haha thats actually in the game

[@mastermitser5693]

Yep

[@CykaBlyatAlex]

That’s how he calls his posse of soldiers. Who deadass laugh with him on command at snake like he’s the captain of the football team in a Disney movie.

[@jhsrt985]

Bash I love seeing u almost at 100k like dude your shit makes me cry laughing aaaaaaaand you do serious legend of mana videos, i literally can't ask for more, thank you for all the dope content

[@xD-lt1mq]

Love that the videos are getting more focused bro. Keep it up

[@Kaixero]

I'll fight off every criticism of twin snakes like doomguy descending into hell but it absolutely is true that even if the intent was Otacon being a joke, he didn't come off that way originally.

[@sayedistrending]

Great video! I remember I would always troll the second Sniper Wolf fight with the Nikita launcher. As soon as the fight starts, go all the way to the right and use the hill as cover. Snake is invincible. Wolf is unable to hit Snake from this spot, so you can unleash Nikita rockets until Wolf dies. Probably one of the easiest boss fights in video game history 🎮👍

[@masterseal0418]

Love you talking about MGS1-3! Next up, MGS4, 5, and Rising!

[@HallowKey]

Just found my old Vita and now.... I'm downloading this game again. Thanks for that.

[@luxray4911]

Wake up babe kbash uploaded again

[@StimmBehr]

Great video! Funny and engaging with good points on every game. Some stuff I do and don’t agree with but it doesn’t matter, it’s all great and these games have so much to talk about.

[@kingbaby8761]

Kojima is either an absolute genius or a complete nut, and for 23 years I haven't been able to figure out which.

[@SonofSethoitae]

Why not both?

[@fabiolean]

Twin Snakes is the only entry in the series that understands how seriously metal gear should be taken. 10/10.

[@Neogears1312]

That bit with liquid in the hind is actually foreshadowed. If you check the snowfields after the sniper Wolf fight you’ll notice a parachute in the trees showing you liquid bailed last minute and survived.

[@Killer66hitman]

KBash MGS episode? LET'S GOOOOOO

[@theultimatetrashman887]

The part with raiden just saying child-like ''no!'' in the codec is hillarious (16:17)

[@masterseal0418]

Shia LaBeouf says “No!” a lot more than Raiden in the Bayformers films. Now these days, Shia LaBeouf is a cannibal.

[@yellowcrow7414]

I love how you left out Metal Gear Solid 4. We don't talk about that one.

[@danielc1291]

He has another video for that one and PW and V

[@salem2772]

Great work as usual man.

[@MrYsosad]

19:25 fun fact, Fatman was originally named Americaman but was later changed due to the salt coming from Konami HQ in USA

[@Rateptaker]

Do I need to get up at 6 am for work? Yes I do Do i have time for a KBash video? YES I DO

[@aroccoification]

Whoa whoa whoa... we dont skip over metal gear 1 and 2 in this house. Those games are amazing and as readily available on the hd collection as solid 2 and 3 are

[@thCianci]

When the camera focused on the peed pants, I peed too

[@tanyaharmon6739]

Godlike thumbnail

[@StimmBehr]

Saw the Paper Starship tweet, huge fan of him and Steak, thought I’d finish the trio.

[@GeneFOX70]

"Due to the nature of their conception and development, the Les Enfants Terribles children possessed enhanced abilities and durability, surviving and withstanding physical and mental situations that would easily kill a normal human." Snake is superhuman

[@Nilnot]

False claim

[@esteboi3858]

i’ve never understood why people just think twin snakes snake is “too insane”. he’s no foxhound boss sure, but he’s literally a genetic clone of what everyone assume to be the greatest soldier in the world. why him kick flipping up a sniper rifle is “too much” i don’t get

[@TjSim03]

Need a part 2 of this one for mgs4, 5 and peacewalker

[@amfram]

Everyone knows he’s gonna make another part lol

[@timbomb374]

Oh man so much nostalgia for 2. Maybe need to play that again.

[@Sebastianguitar01]

“CP, I saw a card box moving...”

[@lucariojet]

Okay - That Raiden/Colonel Codec call had me dying 😂

[@StrongArmElijah]

"Shows over! If you wish to live I suggest you run now!"

[@sarkastikartist7044]

"Kept you waiting, huh?"

[@0NotreMan0]

Just noticed at 4:40 that Otacon is wearing Air Max Ones. Ahhh, then proceeds to piss through them, lol.

[@Drag0n2Fire]

Great vid mate

[@unpatchedgaming7709]

Fantastic work as always! We're going to be doing a playthrough in January so I can introduce the series to my cohost. Cannot WAIT to hear what you think about MGSV.

[@dc7981]

This reminds me of this lady who was obsessed with Fatman to a odd degree

[@GeneFOX70]

Portable Ops, Guns Of The Patriots, and Peace Walker. Then Rising, Ground Zeroes, and Phantom Pain

[@user-kt6lg3yu9j]

Kojima and his piss strike again

[@jamquick5298]

MGS3 is my second favorite game that I've played, I still play it till this day.

[@Tripledashhh_]

Wow an MGS Video essay that isn’t 4 hours long

[@Runeinc]

In MGS2 when they killed Emma after doing the pain in the ass escort quest with her I was so close to rage quiting the game, but the ending did make me rage quit... Ironicly.

[@ln5321]

A KBash video that doesn't start with shouting?

[@Ineedgames]

Subverting our expectations, Baby.

[@kip_c]

that seratonin bit was a masterpiece

[@TylireousGaming]

So close to 100k subs!

[@bigsolidboss781]

Everybody is connected to everybody in metal gear universe.

[@lf4807]

23:25 Oh no you didn't you absolute madman

[@MACHOGOPHER]

OH YEA BABY HERE WE GO

[@KevinRobertsArt]

I'd buy a book with all the ideas Kojima's staff has had to walk him back from.

[@Shern1922]

Glad I stuck around for DankySwankStankyMank

[@dasaiyantv8483]

My favorite game of all time is MGS2, easily. I love the but IMHO MGS1-3 are all masterpieces.

[@EldenRingStreams]

Minute 16 threw me into violent laughter for 16 minutes

[@0Chino13]

"NES games" *shows MSX gameplay*

[@FilthyCasual_YT]

This is fitting since i played the mgs games exactly a year ago hahaha

[@gqphoenixclops3056]

I want a huge collab of Purposeless Rabbitholes, CVIT and KBash to absolutely tear a game/series

[@whiskymylove]

With the end fight you can also look for his bird to lead you right to him

[@slurmsmckenzie.]

You missed a great detail of the game in the area where you fight sniper wolf you find liquids parachute on some trees he jumped down on a parachute but it’s hidden you gotta find it it’s great attention to detail IMO 7:17

[@CrowAtNight]

I wonder if KBash will ever do a Persona retrospective

[@gkstelarbeo4135]

Yes

[@SGVB22]

I always loved ocelots outfit in mgs 2 and character in 3

[@jaikthesnake6285]

This video is very good

[@lobo4462]

Kept You Waiting Huh?

[@devillink12]

I know I’m a couple years late and Kbash may never see this but those flying platforms in Snake Eater aren’t actually anachronistic. They were real devices from the 50s. They’re the Hiller flying platform. But I guess in MGS’s fictional Russia, they had their own version.

[@Mekcstriker]

Eyyy! Are we gonna get that Revengeance review! Regardless looking forward to these metal gear videos! Hell yeah!

[@morkgin2459]

Sorry for being jackass but is it too hard to check yourself alone?

[@Mekcstriker]

@@morkgin2459 yknow what. I never got the notif for his MG:R video. So much for the bell lol

[@morkgin2459]

@@Mekcstriker But it's not that hard to check tho. Is it? The video is not even that far

[@Mekcstriker]

@@morkgin2459 yknow, if you weren't intending to be an jackass, you'd realise that I said "yes, I realise I made a mistake, how silly of me" and move on. Stop being pretentious just because you need to do something to make you feel better okay?

[@brodygarrison5216]

I agree with your take on the Twin Snakes. Adding MGS2's mechanics absolutely broke the difficulty and made it a cakewalk. Plus the cutscenes, voice acting, and music are just worse than the original so there's no reason to play it really

[@GeneFOX70]

Blame Kojima You're right

[@IconicBoar097]

amazing video for a amazing series of games ^_^

[@MaiiUnhallowed]

Reviews of this game before this one usually lost my interest fairly quickly with how much they focused on the story. I find this one to be much more balanced as its not completely taken out of the equation, but also not trying to summarize a whole plot that already needed a whole game to do that