The Rise Of Skywalker's Opening Scenes Explained (Because it moves too fast!!!!)

[@ATATChat]

I thought this intro was amazing on my 3rd watch SO I wanted to break it down as far as I could. I just got the visual dictionary in the mail so expect a LOT MORE videos explaining this giant story. -ATAT

[@DaleESkywalker]

The visual dictionary is helpful in explaining Vader's castle is in ruins which is why it doesn't appear Kylo goes there.

[@ATATChat]

@@DaleESkywalker just about to dive into it!

[@politereminder6284]

@@ATATChat I appreciate how positive and open minded you are. Thanks for these videos and for making the effort to re-watch the movies etc. so as to understand better. 👏👏👏 I lived this movie from my first watch.

[@garrettpagel]

Hey I saw you on rebel scum podcast. I’m currently working on a collaboration with them. Would it be possible to do a collab with you some time?

[@Allisons-analysis]

AT-AT Chat I’ve watched it twice and I love it even more

[@TehGrumpyGit]

This film could really use an extended cut!

[@WhiteWolf496]

Yes, with all the deleted/extended scenes. It'd probably make a lot more sense.

[@jarisipilainen3875]

skywalker saga without finn poe rose

[@lilogden]

and a re-shoot.

[@kristenkristen7140]

JJ

[@forrygaming1617]

Extendet cut? I thing it needs reworking tbh

[@zacpatproductions2052]

When Kylo said what can you offer me? I would’ve found it hilarious if Palpatine sayed “Unlimited Power

[@ATATChat]

OMG

[@davidv4018]

Ben solo went full Keanu Reeves against the Knights of Ren (which i liked).

[@raiden_c1]

I loved that so much

[@fofonablus7104]

IMO the opening scene with Kylo Ren decimating natives left right and centre is the BEST opening scene of the ST

[@ATATChat]

YEP!!!

[@BabysitterSky]

My vote goes to Ben and Han on the death star. Freaking amazing.

[@TheRealChrisShades]

The part where he does that backslide catching fire and stabbing that forest guardian thing was sooooo sick 🤘 😆

[@tangmoboonmak]

@@TheRealChrisShades Exactly!

[@byallaccounts563]

Wait... People don't like this opening? I would watch this opening on loop for hours if I could. It's. So. Cool. (tbh after he killed all these Vader loyalist and the noise dies down and you hear his breathing a lot which probably meant to signal him tapping into the force to locate the Wayfinder but I thought we'd get a force bond and I was Hella excited. Imagine rey seeing him surrounded by corpses. Maybe that would make him feel slightly guilty or ashamed... Setting up... Some conflict... For... Idk... A redemption...) Also yeah. It gets better with every viewing. You just gotta swallow palpatine and rey palpatine and it gets kinda fun. (apart from the ending cause nah I won't ever forgive them for killing Ben solo) okay this was long woah. Great video, loved watching that scene again!

[@ATATChat]

That sounds rad

[@mariabatti7356]

J.J. Abrams should seriously consider in watching "The Return of the Jedi." Anakin Skywalker fulfilled his destiny by destroying the sith. Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader) threw the sith lord down the reactor shaft of the death star to save his son's life. Rian Johnson made a big mistake in killing the main villain in episode 8. J.J. Abrams should have redone episode 8 and call it "The Lost Jedi, " to distinguish the difference between the two movies, and release it in December 2018. Han Solo is found alive by Rey, Finn, Chewbacca, and Captain Phasma. Captain Phasma is shocked, to say the least, when he tells her how he got there. Ben gets redeemed and comes home to his family in "The Lost Jedi." Snoke could have been just a hologram. We do not see Snoke, in person, until episode 9. That is when he gets cut in half by the legendary Skywalker light saber. Rey is the daughter of the son of Lor San Tekka and his wife. Rey is also the granddaughter of the daughter of Obi Wan Kenobi and Duchess Satina Kruze. When Rey's mother, Elena, was two years old she got kidnapped by Palpatine because he found out that she is the daughter of a Jedi master. In the hopes to turn her to the dark side. But his plan is ruined because she was kidnapped by Lor San Tekka and given back to her parents or up for adoption. That is the way the movie should have been.

[@martivibi]

I was wondering, would she be able to actually see the corpses? Because I’m the other films they said they could only see each other and no sorroundings, but Kylo in one scene say Luke too so it may be possible. Anyway you’re right, it would’ve been so cool

[@etherealsky7078]

Maria Batti Sorry Maria, but honestly I don’t really find your versions of episodes 8 and 9 that good. I’m not in the “you can’t criticize a movie if you can’t make one” camp. But it’s extremely presumptuous to write two paragraphs of wonky stories and claim that’s what the movies should’ve been....

[@aaricn04]

Maria Batti that sounds like pure shit lmao

[@HenryLouis21]

I actually share the criticism of this movie, the opening is not really convoluted as people say it is. But it moves too fast, that I can agree on. Also because that opening is the only thing we get from the Prequels and that is Mustafar, like, could we at least have a little scene of Kylo Ren walking into the Vader's fortress? That would be cool. I did like the fact that Snoke is just a creation of Palpatine used to manipulate the Skywalker's and turn Ben evil.

[@SwiftlyEditing]

In terms of the Prequels, yes there's the beginning but there's also that whole scene at the end with the Jedi voices.

[@vittoriacolona]

I had no problems understanding what was going on. Details like Whar was Mustafar and why or how Palpy was alive, I figured out from SW fan videos and looking it up. But the I got the gist of the film just fine. I also argue with the fact that it’s fetch question. It’s actually the final arc is a character study of Rey and Ben. But mostly Rey.

[@silog21]

Gorgeous video, as always. The moments with Kylo Ren/Ben were definitely the best one from this movie, but let's face it, probably all of us would have been more than happy with two hours of Ben Solo plulling his Solo boy stunts. Adam Driver was given ten minutes as Ben Solo and no dialogue and gave more intensity and heart to his character than others did in the complete trilogy.

[@jay9780]

I liked the part where I get to live out the rest of my life on Tatooine with Rey. Seriously tho why did I die

[@raiden_c1]

Because you loved Rey. In that moment of holding her body, you knew you could bring her back, but that it would also be the last thing you would do before seeing your family again.

[@forrygaming1617]

Because someone didn't want you living and Rey dying and changed it into you dying and Rey living...

[@GabiBrooks]

There's still two things that bother me about the movie. One is nitpicky(calling the holocrons wayfinders) and one is major (killing off Ben). Besides that I can't really find other things I don't like about the movie. I really understand why those choices were made. Maybe I'll go watch it a third time cuz it's a fun ride. Edit: when I say that Ben's death botheres me, I don't mean that I don't understand it and I think it's a bad thing storywise, but that I feel like it would be far more interesting to see him actually making a life for himself, fighting his past and gaining the forgiveness of the others. That would be an amazing twist. And of course, because Reylo is the core of this trilogy for me and adds many things to the mythos.

[@gregz.4842]

My wife and I are both reylo fans. I was disappointed that he died. I would have liked to see some atonement in star wars. My wife was livid that he died because he and Rey won't have a relationship. They are soulmates (dyad), they should be together. She refuses to watch the movie again because of this.

[@GabiBrooks]

@@gregz.4842 Yes, for me it was hard to cope with it as well...like an entire day after first watching the movie my stomach hurt even though I had the ending spoiled weeks before. Wtf I didn't expect to be so affected by this...

[@Rey20171]

I had a thought just yesterday while I was listening to the second frozen soundtrack I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie already but there is a song that Elsa sings called into the unknown and I was thinking hmmm what if this was Rey At the end of the movie she wants to find him into the unknown in a world between worlds

[@Rey20171]

I can see the ending more like in the dark Crystal were the heroes and villains become one by the end of the film when the prophecy comes together that they are now one

[@GabiBrooks]

@@Rey20171 Yes, someone else pointed that out. By the way, Den of Nerds suggested in his recent podcast that she may be pregnant so she decided to go to Tatooine in order to raise the next Skywalker Twins. I don't know...maybe she can still comunicate with Ben somehow. It would be interesting to see that played out

[@fredreindljr1996]

Palpatine's face at the beginning scared the hell out of me.

[@BabysitterSky]

Agree, it was a lot better thr second time. You know what the expect and aren't so overwhelmed by the incredibly fast pace.

[@charlieboardman2005]

This is probably my favourite opening star wars scene most likely just behind a new hope

[@victoriaalmtroberg4681]

Charlie Freerunning mine too!!

[@ShredderSensei]

I for SURE thought Palaptine was going to offer "UNLIMITED POWER" when Ren asks what he is offering. Was disappointed

[@twoobs3676]

I loved how you could see how much Ben became like his father in this movie, it was so cool and it’s really sad we won’t be able to see more of Ben solo.

[@gutz3115]

So glad to hear that it gets better on repeat viewings! As a lifelong Star Wars fan and a (controversial opinion alert) lover of TLJ, I felt let down. It was just a whole lot of exposition and fan service so I can see why it may be easier to digest the second time through

[@Rey20171]

I don’t think you have to worry about coming out and liking the last Jedi I think it’s safe now

[@genyakozlov1316]

@@Rey20171 It’s newer safe. It’s still not safe to say you love the prequels. ),:

[@raiden_c1]

@@genyakozlov1316 i love all the movies, prequels included. If you are unaware their is a facebook group that you may be what you are looking for. "Star Wars Fans Who Actually Like The Films".... we'd love to have you if you aren't already there.

[@fredreindljr1996]

You're not alone about the Last Jedi. While I do think that the Canto Bight scene was pointless, it was a good movie overall.

[@RamielDerLinke]

@@genyakozlov1316 It's safe to say that you love the Prequels. Everytime I write that I love the new movies, most people yell at me and say that I'm not a real Star Wars Fan 😕

[@CaughtInTheLoop]

Thank you for this amazing analysis. You are truly the most underrated Star Wars channel on KZbin. Your analyses always manage to make me love these scenes in the Sequels so much more :)

[@MrEffectfilms]

Maybe it's because I'm such a big EU fan but I had no trouble following the pace of the movie at all. Is it quick, sure but I like my films fast paced so I was ok with that and having to take in so much information at once is something the EU has trained me to do. I guess this film was tailor made for me.

[@kiwedinikwe1087]

The pacing isn’t that bad, you can follow everything that happens with ease, but it is too fast to truly process what’s happening and experience the emotional weight of it all. On first viewing, I didn’t cry once. On the second viewing, I cried like 6 times.

[@ATATChat]

@@kiwedinikwe1087 THIS!

[@MrEffectfilms]

@@kiwedinikwe1087 Now there I agree with you. My wife and I both felt like there was a lot to unpack after the movie ended. We had a long talk about it on the way home and everything started coming together for us after that and I definitely plan on seeing the movie again sometime soon. The only scene that almost made me cry was when Ben saw his father again and finally made the right choice.

[@foureveralone]

Just finished watching it for the first time, really happy how they resolved Kylo Rens character. Even the part when after he turns he is jumping into exogal and just goes "ow" -since he is obviously less powerful as he is not getting his power from the dark side. Also the bit with Luke was brilliantly done. He speaks of him having fear, which I find he always lacked in the originals, and instead was influenced by the dark side through hate and anger. Just my opinion the good part far exceed the bad ones

[@molliethomas2585]

Saw it last night and (sigh) you were right. I got through it, and there were definitely parts that I liked. Still sad af about the ending. Thanks for giving us these breakdowns AT-AT, because I don't think I can rewatch TROS for a while.

[@t.g.b.1164]

I never realised that the planet Kylo travelled to in order to find the Sith Wayfinder was actually Mustafar. Another thing is even before seeing the film, I actually wanted it to open with Kylo travelling to Mustafar.

[@ciphymasterofmedia9104]

I just gotta say that I love your channel and star wars fans like you are what give me hope for star wars. Disney did not kill star wars and star wars isn't dead. The ST may not be perfect but we have so much other good content coming out alongside it. The Mandalorian, Fallen Order, Clone Wars season 7, BF2 getting huge updates and even Revan was made canon. I still think maybe Disney should re-evaluate their plan for the star wars movies so things don't get too hectic but I pray the actors for the ST main cast don't let a few let downs taint their career.

[@runningcoyote9972]

what also so great about this trilogy is the telepathy between Rey and Kylo, and it has consistency within it, plus it's well delivered, remember when Rey give his lightsaber to Kylo, and his gesture literally showing his confidence in a cool way.

[@Hockey_00002]

God I love this channel. The beginning was already my favorite part of this movie and you just made it even better.

[@ATATChat]

Ayeeee

[@Hockey_00002]

@@ATATChat Your video on Kylo vs Luke drastically changed my opinion on the fight. When I first saw it I always liked it but always had a disappointed attitude about it. It's now my second favorite lightsaber duel in the saga. Absolutely love this channel 🙌.

[@arockr8998]

Great video. Can’t wait for the Ben Solo

[@motor4X4kombat]

Honestly the opening feels like the reverse jabbas palace from return, where we spent too much Time in one location with no plot pregresion (kinda like canto bite), here feels like we spent too little Time in More than one location with too much plot progresion.

[@WhiteWolf496]

40mins in Jabbas palace doesn't really compare to the 4+6mins (10 mins total) (roughly) in Canto Bight

[@mariamiles1605]

Despite the awful pacing issues, I enjoyed all the Reylo & Ben Solo scenes. Besides that, my favorite part was Ben remembering his dad. I was surprised by this scene, but it was beautiful. I loved that he got to relive that moment, but do the right thing.

[@cases3394]

Great breakdown! After you had mentioned the opening scene was Mustafar I got excited and dissapointed at the same time. It would have been cool to know more. To see more. I probably have said this too much but I'm really looking forward to the novel. You can make a novel 100 times more detailed and since the novel won't dumb down the story line to make it palatable to everyone, it should make for a better story.

[@The1Hitman]

“The implications that he’s been serving a phantom master”..... or a phantom menace... which did initially refer to Palpatine himself.

[@whirlwindjourney]

I honestly loved it. After Last Jedi, my hopes were so dashed and low for this film that I was honestly pleasantly amazed they were able to make something as good as they did (even with a few flaws here or there). I loved everything with the Emperor. I thought it was honestly the best thing about these three newest films, and did a lot to tie them in more with the original six.

[@SVOKRAplays]

I'm wondering how will my perception of the movie change with second viewing, because the first third of it felt like some movie trailer at first. So many things happening at the same time, offering literally no space for the audience to let any of it sink in properly. Therefore, this video is highly appreciated.

[@reslewdub]

This was great sir. i really appriciate you doing this. very well done, as always. Thank you.

[@LudosErgoSum]

This is so cerebral, grounded and patient that it's almost like you took a leaf out of Obi Wan's book when he just decided to camp out on Tatooine and watch over some farmboy. Now that Palpatine is dead, who will rise to stir up the hate and agressive feelings in our fandom? I honestly hope nobody. I love true fan content like this.

[@micheledeetlefs6041]

Thank you. Listening to this helped with my understanding of this opening, which, as you said, seems pretty abrupt. You've improved it a great deal.

[@shimshambam]

Didn’t need it explained, but loved hearing you talk about it regardless.

[@taco2947]

First time I've seen your channel. Really enjoyed the way you conveyed your thoughts on TROS. Very well thought out and put together. Subscribed for sure!

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

I said Rey was Palpatines daughter way back in the Force Awakens. It was obvious as we seen with her fighting style at the end, along with many other tell tales in the force back vision she had under Maz Canatas Castle. I'm so glad my prediction was right. It just made so much sense this way.

[@wolfthornnholtzklau4913]

This movie is not the dumpster fire that some fans are making it out to be. It definitely benefits from repeat viewings. Ben Solo is awesome.

[@JACKTHEBBTFAN]

I would love to see you do a deep dive like this for the whole movie and even the other movies. Explaining certain things and also offering a new perspective on some scenes

[@rogueguardian]

It felt like someone pressed fast forward without pressing fast forward. I may have to see it again.

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

He survived because of his contingency plan. The blue light you seen come up in the death star was time portal, that shot him into another part of the galaxy, and the electricity he let out gave him the boost to make it happen. Most likely where he was on the sith planet of Exogol. Its explained in the books. He also had an observatory on Jakuu that kept him in touch with Rey. So he knew what she was doing at all times. I said Rey was Palpatines daughter way back in the Force Awakens. It was obvious as we seen with her fighting style at the end, along with many other tell tales in the force back vision she had under Maz Canatas Castle. I'm so glad my prediction was right. It just made so much sense this way.

[@EM-et4jq]

I really hoped Rey wouldve turned to the dark side, that wouldve made the movie classic. It would've been a move as shocking as the Vader father scene and would've made Poe, finn that much more important by helping bring her back into the light. The movie shouldve ended with finn rising up, to kill palpatine being that hes the offspring of Mace Windu and getting the girl (rey or rose). It has been revealed he's force sensitive.

[@sabrinaaudiotel9227]

Great explanation, even though at first viewing I felt like the movie started backwards, meeting the emperor should have been at the beginning of the third act, but the marketing for TROS made it absolutely imperative to reveal palpatine from the beginning that would have changed the pacing and the suspense of the whole movie. We're so excited for the Ben Solo video, you don't have to tell us! :D

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Watching it a second time makes it easier to watch and enjoy as you know the basics and you can enjoy everything else, and the opening was actually pretty dope! Imagine if this movie was an hour longer, it would have spaced things out better! It tries to do too much not necessarily bad but rushed such as the Emperor and his fate all that and Kylo and the main characters! They should have did what Rogue One did and name the planets to make it easier on us haha

[@MeanMrMustard1]

20-30 minutes longer would've been fine.

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

@@MeanMrMustard1 good shout

[@Phantom-hy2ix]

I've watched it three times and I have to say, that it's now my favourite sequel episode.

[@mustangman5453]

I loved the movie but think it would’ve been so cool if instead of casting his lightsaber into the ocean. Ben turned the blade white like Ashoka. Would’ve been crazy to see a white blade in theatre and would make sense bc he is a light side user again but left the Jedi order

[@Kurayamiblack]

Honestly, it threw me off that after Rey stabs him with his own weapon, she gives it back to him. If she was going to spare him I would think she'd keep the saber (or destroy it), take his TIE, and leave him there with nothing but his own thoughts. Essentially that's how he ends up anyways since he throws it away minutes later regardless. It was just there for the sybolism which still could have worked if Rey had destroyed it (cut it in half) and left it on the floor. It's not important but it's one of several things in the movie that made me go "wait, wut?"

[@Gabylachucky]

@@Kurayamiblack ohhh but then it wouldn't be like... autenthic, Ben had to do it from himself, I kinda feel Rey's decision, she cried a lot in thar moment, like she was losing hope on Ben and letting him be, somehow

[@lukerope1906]

Can't wait to see again. Going on the 28th! Merry Christmas AT-AT!

[@danric1813]

It’s brilliant! You will get the connections in time! Palps contingency plan made him create a new empire. And, as canon, a sith can transfer his conscious to an object. Palps transfer his conscious to his own dead body. Love this! Respecting the already canon, Palpatine went for snoke, kill him and clone him. A was sure of that in 8 because of his ring. It had the 4 sages to dwarti. Then he use him and controlled him to manage things. There is a lot of clues in episode 7 that gives us the answer. I always thought that Palps controlled snoke because everything snoke appear on screen in episode 7, Palpatine music played. And others clues ...

[@itsmewaldi]

I really love your content! It explains a lot of content in a very clearly understandable and visualized manner. Thank you.

[@stanleylee3329]

I feel like the way Palpatine came back made sense. He had to come through someone else, cause to immediately approach the grandson of Anakin Skywalker, while he’s under the training of Luke Skywalker-it’d be shut down pretty quickly. He’d have to give in to the Dark Side before meeting the man who embodies it.

[@Alex-ji6ob]

"Classic Sheevy P." I'm calling him that from now on, it's so fucking good.

[@holygramatha4978]

I’ve seen it once and idk it made complete sense to me, the pacing never bugged me once. In fact the only faults I caught in the movie were Palpatine and Lando not being there as much as I thought and no baby yoda

[@georgemoseley2696]

You & I both know I'll be here tomorrow after seeing the film

[@tricaurelie]

I thoroughly enjoyed hearing your take on this. As disappointed as I was with the movie, the opening scenes with Kylo were RAD.

[@GradKat]

Thanks for this. I loved the opening scenes, but did get a bit lost off. This video is really helpful.

[@davidv4018]

Great vid!

[@tangmoboonmak]

I've seen TROS 5 times already and I like the opening fight scene more and more.

[@melissacourchesne2121]

Me too I will go to see the movie for a second time at Christmas, because there is a lot of stuff here. Thanks to the explanation of the opening, yeah too fast for just one viewing.

[@mitch1833]

Your reassuring voice is welcome after the crazy depressing week we’ve had!😭

[@tommonfg0810]

Just watched the flim and love it. And love your vids also keep it up man :D

[@Luca-kd2sg]

They definitely should have shown the remains of Vader's castle. At the beginning I thought it looked like Mustafar from space, but when I saw the trees I thought it wasn't. I really think it is unfortunate that it is almost impossible to recognize that the movie starts with one of the most memorable locations of the saga.

[@angelahevenshuntress585]

Hey ATAT what’s your opinion on ben’s death? I personally think that he should’ve lived but maybe they’ll rectify that in future and say he didn’t actually die through either force projection or something along those lines

[@ATATChat]

Didnt want it, but I accept it. Apparently, their Dyad bond opened the door for whats coming in 2020.

[@molliethomas2585]

@@ATATChat How? Tell us please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Edit: Is it to do with Project Luminous?

[@Jooglesberry]

@@ATATChat I'd have been more ok with that if he'd been with Luke and Leia at the end

[@angelahevenshuntress585]

AT-AT Chat huh well guess we’ll have to wait until 2020 to see if he lives or not which fingers crossed he will cause he’s a great character! and I still cannot grasp the concept of a dyad connection 😅

[@angelahevenshuntress585]

Mollie Thomas supposedly the writers confirmed that Ben solo is not apart of it but I think they could be lying just to throw us off the scent but who knows they could’ve told the truth about it 🤷‍♀️ it was confirmed on Twitter

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Beautifully expressed, Nick! 😊 #ILoveStarWars

[@MeanMrMustard1]

MUCH better the second time. Like every SW film, the more I watch it, the more I'll love it.

[@CamkirE]

Achtoo = Act Two ? Exogol = Exit Goal ? Didn’t understand why palpetine wanted to kill Rey at first and later wanted to use her body...make up your mind palpy. He had like the trilogy NO PLAN, and it all blew up in the end.

[@evanshade19]

Im so glad you enjoy the movie more than you originally did. After i saw it, i was blown away and unable to digest all the stuff in this messy movie. After thinking about it for a few days i can say i really like this movie even though i dont agree with some of its decisions. Also kylo kicking ass on mustafar is one of my all time favorite scenes!

[@blackeyedlily]

Glad you are finding more to like about this movie. I’ve only seen it once and I’m debating whether to go back one more time to the theater or just wait until it’s out on video. But I did enjoy your breaking down the scene and explaining more of it. I think it is a real shame that they cut out so many key aspects of the beginning, like clarifying Kylo was on Mustafar. I will look forward to your Ben Solo video. I still think it’s a big mistake that they killed off this character. But I already knew there was a strong possibility they would do so. It’s just such a disappointment IMO.

[@brendanbelman893]

If there is one thing that this trilogy connects well into eachother is the theme of legacy. In TFA kylo is trying to live up to his grandfathers evil legacy cause that’s what he thought was greatest. In TLJ we learn that Luke’s legacy was overplayed, telling us that the legacy of a person is far greater than the person himself which served has a good reflection to the audience as well since we always saw Luke in the same way the galaxy did. And in ROTS it’s about Rey coming to terms with her legacy and not being afraid of it and I really like that theme of the ST

[@jtszabo1691]

Exegol is the coolest planet in the sequel trilogy. It’s so creepy and actually adds to the Dark Side lore

[@irenedavis7619]

Very.good breakdown. Thank you MTFBWYA from the UK🙇‍♀️💙

[@literacylabyrinth4018]

Can't wait till the blu ray release and I can go through the film slower. So much to take in and loved the return of Palps.

[@SuperSonya999]

He was finally vulnerable to allow her to choose instead of taking. He waited for her to kiss him and returned the affection passionately. In the end Rey got everything that Ben would have wanted her to have anyways if they had gotten together earlier in life or under better circumstances, it was destiny: his parents and family, the ship, the saber, and even his life. This story is about love. I can live with it now.

[@roamingchromiesoftheempire625]

This actually makes me happy, yey enjoyment :)

[@mr.eddiekaenejr.1126]

Snoke is Venomous (Venomous snake) Darth Plagues experimented on him and the Emperor cloned him?

[@Piratequeen010156]

It's kind of funny how Palpatine ended up requiring a machine to live, similarly to what he made Vader endure.

[@tattooguy413]

My first viewing: felt fast, but I could follow it decently well Really liked the film 2nd viewing: even easier to follow Loved the film more, especially after it had marinated with me since the first movie 3rd viewing: same as second, and caught a few little tidbits here and there that I hadn’t in the first two viewings Loved the movie I personally enjoy how everything connects well in this movie. Were there two transports in the Chewie scene? Yep. It all works and is backed up. And the things that didn’t get necessarily answered in the film (palatines exact return details).... I’m okay with it. It doesn’t break the film, personally, for me

[@2OldGeeksTalking]

JJ did good, it was an entertaining film....and that's enough for me

[@gamestation2690]

Me, too. I was having a HUGE goofy smile on my face for the entire climax.

[@june5877]

My problem with Palpatine being in this movie as is relevant to this video is that the revelation all of this was Palpatine’s doing robs the characters of some agency. It makes some of the most impactful moments like Rey and Kylo’s bond, Kylo killing Han etc and really the previous two movies in general feel a bit pointless since it was all bound to happen under Palpatine’s watchful eye. In anticipation of the counterargument that regardless of whether Snoke or Palpatine were the puppet master, Kylo was still being manipulated, I see the intent as different based on which character holds the card. Were Snoke an independent being as he was in The Last Jedi, he is authentically mentoring Kylo in the dark side by berating him and convincing him he needs to snuff all light within him out in order to become who he was meant to be vs Palpatine setting him on a (convoluted) path that ultimately leads to Palpatine’s/Rey’s rule and not towards Kylo’s development into a truly powerful Sith lord.

[@grahamjones3259]

I’m looking forwards to seeing all the stuff they cut out, and show us as extra scenes. They sometimes get dropped for pacing reasons. I really loved this movie, despite it’s problems, and there are a few. I wanted a proper Star Wars movie, and I feel that I got one. Enough said.

[@donaldthescotishtwin]

I preferred Snoke when he was his own villain. He got cheated because of how Rian fucked up, but you could’ve easily swapped Palps roll with Snoke. He made clones of himself and the one in TLJ was one of them.

[@stanleylee3329]

I don’t think he had to die though, like I get it makes his redemption tragic, as is the Skywalker fate-but that ruins ALL the potential future Ben Solo stuff.

[@msilkyfix]

As you mentioned Kylo being used as a tool of the dark side, I'd love to hear your thoughts/analysis on his character arc in the movie/ST. If Palpatine has been every voice in his head all his life, what does that tell us about his motivations, free will and choices? Was he also used as plot device in TROS? At the star of TROS his plan is the same as in TLJ, to rule the galaxy with Rey but then he's pulled to the light by those who cared for him most (somehow only missing is Luke's role in this). It would be great to hear your view on how redemption was handled and its ending with his death, how this makes sense in the SW universe... He never was a full on evil villain, rather a conflicted, manipulated fallen prince and ending his story with death is a tragic wast of a fantastic complex character. Or just lazy easier-way-out writing...

[@influentialvideos4527]

I would have loved it if Palpatine called Snoke a rabid cur

[@nicoleturns645]

This was so helpful thank you!

[@kevinraza8010]

Best intro since Revenge of the sith

[@kreksonedits]

Kevin Raza nah tfa

[@mckenan3578]

Thank you for this video!

[@caelinnis]

I can absolutely agree the pace of this movie is very, very fast, but personally, I enjoyed that.

[@caelinnis]

It's like poetry, it rhymes

[@Falxifer95]

In my subsequent viewings the 3 things I didn't enjoy are: - Rey being retconned to be a Palpatine (in the end it doesn't matter because of the themes of chosen family and creating your own path from both TLJ and TROS). - Rose being sidelined. Kelly Marie Tran deserved better. - The clunky pacing. This is a movie of great moments but the way the movie goes from point A to point B is clunky. These are my gripes with the movie but at the end of the day, I find more to like than to dislike so in the end it's still a solid B+ for me.

[@targetdemographic1257]

TheSlayFer Ch. T. There isn’t room for nuanced opinions in KZbin comments anymore. Wait a decade, then you can say this shit.

[@themword8190]

Great vid as always. On my first viewing, I couldn't believe how much we were getting within the first 5-6mins, although admittedly it looked amazing. If you were just a regular moviegoer, would you be confused that Palpatine was back without explanation? Would you know that Mustafar was on armed by Vader loyalists or understand exactly what Exegol was? The nuances of the story and of the characters were lost eg if the viewer realised that Kylo was fighting Vader loyalists, not just innocent inhabitants it would adjust the lens in how Kylo was regarded? It just felt like it was A to B to C to D to do X and Y to get Z. Also.... live chat about Ben at some point? :DDD

[@carlosandres7006]

Thanks man. Great video. Can you do the rest of the movie? Please?

[@ATATChat]

ill be making my way in chunks because of how DENSE it all is. But up next is the ben solo stuff.

[@travisbabcock5483]

Im a fool, I had no idea he was on mustafar in the beginning just because it looks drastically different from what we’ve seen of the planet in the movies at least. At least I know now

[@travisbabcock5483]

I wouldn’t be so embarrassed if I hadn’t told a friend specifically I didn’t think he was on mustafar

[@deniseallisonstout1901]

I’m gonna see it again this weekend I liked it

[@soonerthrawn1362]

Very good info thanks

[@moviekris0426]

I’m definitely considering seeing this a second time (I do think that seeing it a second time would help me process all the info that they gave us better). I wonder if they would consider releasing an Extended Edition (a la LOTR) that would give it much more room for these rushed scenes...

[@treasurehunter3369]

when you can sit back and just take the premise for what it is...the movie is actually good i think.

[@quanitawinters-tyler3770]

You mentioned all the things that should've been shown in this movie and wasn't. Ben Solo's arc was missing and needed. He was just as important and more than a plot device for Rey's journey.

[@Psychos1s]

I thought the movie was awesome! I saw several early spoiler free reviews that pointed at the first hour being too fast and difficult to follow. However I thought it was great. To me it was showing things "in progress" and emphasizing a lot of time has passed since The Last Jedi. It put more emphasis on the opening crawl to set the tone and then went full force.

[@doorbell8132]

Just saw the movie, it was pretty good. I saw the spoilers though. Not gonna lie, it kind of made the experience better. Such as on Kylo Ren's ship, when he reveals that there is a spy to his commanders, I knew Hux was the spy, and I actually feared that he was going to die. It made the film more tense, funny enough though, when Ben and Rey kissed, a girl in the audience said "EEEEWWWWW!" really loudly, and it made the entire audience laugh. Then Ben started to cry/laugh and fucking died. I just lost it.

[@paulgermano7837]

I wish that was the Knights of Ren with Kylo on Mustafar instead of stormtroopers. It would have been badass to see them use their weapons and any force powers.