The Rise of the Internet and the Decline of Intimacy

[@DrJordanBPetersonClips]

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[@noahqyain7311]

I just find it so funny that women thought the internet, sex positivity, modern dating, down with the patriarchy, etc. was going to free them but it just caused the rise of Nephilim and at the end of the day they still loose somehow and become oppressed again because in some weird Jungian way that's natural but they don't want to admit it. I think that is why the entire logic of feminism is predicated on the partratichy of which in essence is their God.

[@noahqyain7311]

I mean even I get turned on by the idea of a 6'3" gigaChad, minor league baseball player, Wall Street investment banker falling in love with and then permanently oppressing and "integrating" an average looking, upper middle class, privileged, WASP white girl with his macrophallus (to turn girl into woman upon the day of her fantasy marriage). That would make a controversial yet tantalizing love story if done right. Always pushing the limits but never too far thus showing the merits of patriarchy. The problem with many feminist is they just have not been dominated by the right man in their eyes, that and their complex animus. Like she doesn't loose her identity as a feminist but gets to have all the benefits of a patriarchy.

[@PeopleHealthTru]

@Grant Goldberg Society needs to go back to 1965 before feminism took over the country

[@PeopleHealthTru]

@@noahqyain7311 Jordan Peterson, the subject is interesting but this title is wrong because the dialogue is maybe 1 minute of the subject. Random thoughts and stupid interruptions would be the more relevant video title

[@Bikewithlove]

I watched your recent interview about the projection of mass-starvation in the coming winter, and I have a strong feeling that you will be surprised at how humans will not go into the darkness so willingly. Yes, humans have done horrible things - but you’re not focusing on the fact that each dark epoch gives way when the good, and the good parts in evil men, have had enough. It’s business as usual Doctor. You’ll see I’m right when the video eventually drops of Klaus Schwab’s public beheading. Even Klaus knows deep down this is where he’s headed (no pun intended)

[@successfollowsvalue5828]

7:55 what I noticed is way before this point Jordan is very good at actively listening… even when he had a point to make other people were talking for minutes... without forgetting where he was in the conversation he continued to make his point as the subject was being changed..That’s a good quality… maybe due to the therapy work he does with people.

[@jamesbarlow6423]

Naw! D'yathink?

[@thembimogala9704]

Smart observation.

[@successfollowsvalue5828]

@@thembimogala9704 thank you

[@steven5054]

Now watch his interview with Dawkins where he talks over him the whole time

[@jamesbarlow6423]

@@steven5054 . Where can I find it?

[@raystargazer7468]

So cool that he finished his idea. People rarely do that. Respect.

[@tallrobshortpants7190]

That is because he is able to handle the interruption without losing his train of thought. Listeners usually win.

[@davidsirmons]

You are loved, Jordan. For all you've given, all you've endured, all you've strived to understand and convey, we thank you and owe you dearly.

[@jessicashive3836]

Amen 🙏

[@fred6907]

What is this sorcery?? Jordan talking to women without being shouted and screamed at and called a bigot?? Impressive, very impressive.

[@flutterguy22]

It's because it's a reasonable man with reasonable women. It's quite profound.

[@bonganipeter9433]

Indeed

[@michaelfarrell114]

Do you think perhaps it's because the Pope consecrated Russia and Ukraine in March?... Or no?

[@raystargazer7468]

Hehe. Good one.

[@Brehvon]

Yah. It's pretty great! The whole interview is worth the watch. Very pleasant individuals.

[@MeMe-lx2jw]

I've a millenial friend who's CONSTANTLY complaining about how she just can't meet a nice guy, that only jerks want her and only for sex. She's really lonely. But she absolutely refuses to pick up the phone to talk to anyone with normal social skills, drives away guys who treat her nicely claiming she's "an independent woman!" who doesn't want to be babied. I joined a FB group she's in and it was HORRIFIC. If I were a man I wouldn't go near those women if any of them were the last one earth.

[@bryanjacobs9680]

females are confused these days. They feel lonely because something in them tells them having tons of guys run through them isn't really what they want but they do it anyway. Most of those women will end up being single mothers by the time they are in their 30's

[@brynleytalbot778]

It’s like the rose covered cottage depicting an idyllic country life. She’s bought the ideology but can’t find a man (or man child or boy, to be honest) to fit it. When you live a fantasy you’ve bought through success it’s hard to face reality. Your millennial friend sounds like the female counterpart of the jerks she so despises. Like attracts like. A tough lesson she’s unwilling to learn.

[@tallrobshortpants7190]

I’m in my 60’s, found my bride at 29. She was the one that finally accepted me and appreciated what I had to offer. 33 years later our relationship is as solid as ever without ever having a stagnant or vulnerable moment. The other one is more important than either of us. The other night lying in bed while holding hands, she said, “I hope we die this way.” ❤️

[@sergiowinter5383]

Feminism, the gift that keeps on giving

[@bloocifer]

greatest quote from that lady. she said a young girl was complaining about being whistled at. she told her dont worry it will stop soon 😂

[@kaunisrumilus]

I’m a young man. I was once like when I was younger 19 or so grabbed by my dick by this man who had regular family. I was grossed out and offended as one should. And kinda wanted to try and play victim as I told my uncle what had happened with an over 50 yr old man at the street after night of clubbing. He told me the same thing. He told me “oh boy be happy that you are desired, soon it’ll end.” 🤣 and he said funnierly comparing himself or something too. It took a period of thinking about it. And both are true. I think the limit of sexual harassment is gray but somethings are obvious. Like grabbing. But even then it’s most likely that 99.9999998 of cases just end to that. Verbal is just words. But they can be super rough too. We gotta be better than be all voulnerable as f at everything. Philosophically chage ur perspective and see the good in bad too. You are sexy, clearly if you get hit on, whistled at, yada yada🤣

[@brett84c]

I love how quickly it was said and passed on from. It's so poignant and true.

[@trequor]

Best response

[@chillones9574]

My daughter dresses so causal, she hardly dates. I tell her, honey all you got to do is show a little skin lol, she 21 and has had one boyfriend. Guys step you game up these ladies need me then a swipe ;).

[@angele4890]

He ignored the comment because it was off subject and didn't want to have a prolonged conversation about a different area and subject. Honestly the broads a idiot. Lol it's cool though we all hold ignorance and ego. 🤷

[@valentinab164]

4:12 I relate to that so much. It happens all the time that girls would flirt with my boyfriend just for the sake of doing it and I'm the one who's hurt by that. With my previous boyfriend, I decided he wasn't worth it because I didn't love him. Guess what? He's still single and the girls who used to flirt with him only wanted to play games. Some girls are shitty when it comes to romantic relationships, more than most guys I have to give it to you (even though I know guys who get easily distracted). Having too many friends and undefined relationships is a huge red flag. I much prefer a loner with high values.

[@weepingangel6805]

You say you prefer a loner, but that's probably not what you want. Not to attack you on a personal level, but women are biologically wired to want a man who has friends and contacts. Goes back to tribe days. How to survive and thrive in a tribe when your man has no friends

[@valentinab164]

being a loner doesn't mean you have no interpersonal skills or good relationships with well-selected people, I just much prefer someone who's pickier with who he hangs around with. Obviously, nobody likes someone who has no interpersonal skills and is awkward in a bad way. Most introverts are like that and not straight-up unlikable losers. That was what I meant, I understand your argument, though.

"I much prefer a loner with high values." You have gotta be the first woman I've ever heard saying that 👀 Wouldn't it be nice if more girls were like you

[@valentinab164]

@ I don't think I'm much of an outlier in my country. I agree with a guy who was interviewed by Jordan a while ago. He said that if you want to find people you like you must go to places where these people might be. You are never going to find a girl who's seeking a loner in a club. Anyway, I appreciate the compliment, thank you. I believe this phase is going to end somehow.

[@amandaecheona1457]

Having too many friends is not a problem but I agree 100% undefined relationship whether same sex or opposite is a problem waiting to happen. Living in the fog as Jordan says

[@333335339]

JP never lies. I love that about him.

[@mikemccool7575]

Except about that hair transplant

[@333335339]

@@mikemccool7575 I am bald not JP

[@djzacmaniac]

Except about when he was addicted to benzos

[@snekesa]

He loves that about himself too.

[@thevictator5424]

It is admirable,yes. However, telling your truth doesn´t make you right. His latest debacle on Islam is a clear example of speaking out of ignorance happens JP as well.

[@morinanna]

The best thing to realize each & every morning as a married couple is both partners "I choose you" everyday ❤️✌️

[@aurorastorm9842]

That's beautiful 😍 ❤

[@thetruthsodealwithit2803]

Yeah but if they knew about each other’s phones they would realise that’s it’s B.S and lies. Almost everyone is mentally cheating the internet has ruined real love

[@thereignofthezero225]

Sounds like an awful delusion

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

@@thetruthsodealwithit2803 Real love sometimes involves being able to commit to someone despite their infidelity. If you aren't willing to put up with someone's flaws then you don't deserve to be with anyone because we are all flawed.

[@Louis13XIII]

@@potapotapotapotapotapota survival of the flawest

[@allywallace7798]

I just about cried when he mentioned women who were outcompeted in the dating field by women who are willing to quickly give it up. I’ll admit that I’m overweight so I’m not everyone’s cup of tea, but the men who I was attracted to just wanted sex out of me and when I said no, they would block me.

[@ajjbh6750]

I do the same to women because I don’t trust them all they want is to use me for money and divorce alimony

[@lunalou8888]

Wishing you luck on the dating scene. Don't give up 💐

[@MsQ275]

you should definitely lose weight, but the rejection will be the same.... however, you will be happier and healthier

[@mopixies4196]

A lot of men don't see overweight women as girlfriend material, I feel like they just see us as an experience that they can quickly dispose of and never tell anyone again. At least, that's how I felt before I met my current boyfriend of 3 years. There's some good ones out there don't lose hope.

[@theblytonian3906]

1. You have a solution YOU can do something about. LOSE WEIGHT! 2. "The men I was attracted to just wanted sex out of me". Stop going after men above you pay grade/feckless Chad/Tyrone chasing. Typical modern female. Creating her own problems then laying the blame at everyone else's feet instead of her own where it belongs. o.O

[@bloocifer]

he said it so perfectly in the first minute. a lot of women dont understand or see the invisible traps that lay for them and men too when we arent together. theres a reason we have been together for millions of years. its our best chance.

[@_PJW_]

I was there, with the rise of the Internet starting mid 90-ies. For me it was about reaching out to other people and to knowledge, without the limitations of distance and time. Hugely enriching. Something totally absent beforehand. I never felt a 'decline of intimacy' due to the Internet. If such were possible at all. Any encroachment on intimacy is only possible because you allow it. And you can always switch off. Same goes for a physical relationship. Any encroachment on intimacy in a physical relationship is only possible because one party allows it. And one can always switch off.

[@Irithyllian]

I’m glad it’s a discussion. I love watching him debate and I mean that truly, but when it’s a nice chat even better, I love how the two ladies were all ears at the end, once he starts going like that it’s just so enthralling to listen to. I’m sure my face looked just like those two. Hahaha.

[@darkskinwhite]

I'm glad we have a man representing us in a field that's so overwhelming comprised of women.

[@mairuzo]

What field? Psychology?

[@thomasowen5785]

When she said "don't worry, the whistling stops" she got no laughs but I thought that was hilarious

[@Bikewithlove]

The capacity for intimacy was never in the people in my life before the internet. Most humans lack this ability. I’m doing fine without anyone in my life now that I’ve realized this. I found intimacy with God, and I’m happy. I was never as lonely as when I was in a relationship with a female. Having since gone my own way, I’m free to devote my love to God.

[@jamessummers5936]

Jesus...

[@Bikewithlove]

@@jamessummers5936 - And I get to keep my money, so keep on rolling your eyes at that while you shell out for entitled primadonnas who hate you ;)

[@ordoabchao4202]

I'm happy for you. Out of interest, how old were you when you made that step?

[@MsQ275]

I know MANY women that feel this way.... but very few men. it's so unfortunate that men do not know how to think with their brain

[@toddjohnson271]

@@MsQ275 Tons of guys abandoning women and growing alone. I can tell too because the markers are showing up in female desperation.

[@Mr.Honest247]

That last speech at the end from Jordan was really good.. Definitely has the right mindset with relationships!

[@brynleytalbot778]

In an age of everything being a short term contract renewed at allegedly better terms and service it’s no surprise relationships are conducted the same way. Watching a therapy channel on KZbin I was taken aback on the ideology that you build relationship skills outside of marriage to somehow select the best fit to yourself. Social skills are the primary focus of females, not males, so this ideology suits them, which I believe have been forced into hierarchies in both private and public life, home and work, perhaps due to feminism and the push to advance females in the workplace. When society morphed from an Industrial Age to a Technological Age we lost the defining principles of masculinity to favour femininity. Has our Age forced a model for relationships that is counterproductive, unless you see that multiple relationship formation is great for consumerist societies. Consumer relationships for a consumer age.

[@tsumacity]

@ 7:35 "Remember we had the young woman who complained about being whistled at, and I said, Don't worry, it'll stop." SAVAGE

[@juankplaysmusic]

Beautiful. I must add that this also happen to men although in a less brutal way. We all are losing vitality and sex appeal as years go by: is nature!

[@metalted6128]

Incredibly brave man, to take up this talk with , two intelligent women! Great video!

[@SI-qp7cm]

I'm old enough to know what intimacy was like pre internet. The notion that it could be in decline presupposes that it was there.

[@khaderlander2429]

Language has cosmology. The word mankind is called (insan in Arabic) it comes from the root word (uns) which is intimacy, if people don't receive intimacy, example love, they dry up and die, a spiritual death. When married couples have intimacy, they experience expansion, the Pupil of their eyes dilate, they create a strong bond, they become a unit. The greatest intimacy is that of the divine.

[@tiffannyranger8134]

Wow that is really interesting to know. Maybe I should learn Arabic someday. Thanks for sharing!

[@khaderlander2429]

@@tiffannyranger8134 Meaning proceeds the vehicle to express that meaning e.g language. I believe language is imprinted in us. The brain is like a book, the first draft of which is written by the genes during fetal development. No chapters are complete at birth, and some are just rough outlines waiting to be filled in during childhood. But not a single chapter-be it on sexuality, language, food preferences, or morality-consists of blank pages on which a society can inscribe any conceivable set of words. Marcus’s analogy leads to the best definition of innateness I have ever seen: Nature provides a first draft, which experience then revises. … “Built-in” does not mean unmalleable; it means “organized in advance of experience.”

[@thereignofthezero225]

💩

[@thenewlevi]

Hearing someone say “I don’t know, X” is the most refreshing thing to me.

[@brett84c]

I can attest from my own experience that online dating feels shallow and takes away the high risk/high reward of dating that makes people more likely to stay together. Dating apps have removed all of the awkwardness and high stakes, so people just sort of get together, with no good stories about how they worked up the courage to approach the other from across the bar when the waitress suddenly spilled her drink on you, so you had to approach them with a crotch full of beer... I know that's a silly example, but it seems couples that have funny stories and a unique scenario where they met, makes them more endeared to one another and gives them a solid and unforgettable memory that strengthens their bond. Again, online dating has removed any level of risk so people just have no real passion. Women want to feel like they've been swept off their feet, no swiped on by a guy that's too timid to approach a woman in real life.

[@maryj7423]

He laughed! Nice to have people let him talk and be relaxed.

[@1purehavoc]

Just the title caught my attention. I grew up with a Gameboy and when I'm with my woman I put all my shit down. She can't...I don't get it. Its frustrating. Been like that since we started dating. These devices are a cancer and an addiction...but they are also the most effective means to communicate. Further I've felt that way about driving since phones. I really couldn't understand how adults couldn't put them down after they came out.

[@sidwhiting665]

I certainly don't intend to judge anyone, so just take this as an observation: Your online name is "heyyo titties" and your profile pic is an IPA ale can. Might want to rethink the image that puts out to the world, and to a female in general. Possible choose something without boobs and beer....

[@Snooperzan]

In the 80s everyone had a best friend and a boyfriend, people don’t put effort into relationships anymore

[@outlander234]

Aint that the truth...

[@jamessummers5936]

Lol yes they do.

[@suomi5454]

So true was a teen in the 80s most guys had girlfriends, and girls felt embarrassed if they didn't have a boyfriend, and me and my best friend were more like brothers, we always had each others back. I feel bad for the youth of today that don't have those relationships. Still the thing I value most is loyalty.

[@officialtbhoops]

@@suomi5454 not sure what you are talking about, you seem to be stuck in the “back in my day” point of view. My friends are like the brothers I never had, and most people I know have girlfriends or boyfriends. Sure, my generation is going south thanks to technology and instant gratification, but don’t act like relationships like the ones you described are a thing of the past.

[@GodofDisco]

@@suomi5454 I think there is more deep friendships now, by far. The need for loyalty has never been higher.

[@Razear]

These days, kids can access endless entertainment from a handheld device, from video games to porn, virtually anywhere and at any time. It's no wonder that many would rather opt to go this route than actually try to court someone of the opposite sex in real life. There's even a term in Japan called "hikkomori" that refers to young men who choose to socially isolate themselves from the outside world because they can engage in trivial hedonism alone within the confines of their parent's basement.

[@sisterfleur7523]

Hikkomori? Wow fascinating!! Hikkomorii is soooo rampant nowadays especially in the west and even here in Africa

[@Jinppa]

Hikikomori*

[@outlander234]

How you equated videogames to porn? One is work of countless individuals from all kinds of industries like artists, programmers, writers, musicians etc. While other is two people recording themselves having sex? You know how big of an insult that is to all those people involved into making a game?

[@Jinppa]

@@outlander234 But you're doing the same for porn. More often than not it's not just two people recording themselves having sex, the production teams can be quite large with pretty much all the same roles as TV-production teams have - there's people working on lighting, audio, cinematography, directing, casting, logistics, makeup, post-production, marketing etc.

[@noahqyain7311]

I do what you said exactly except it is with the confines of my welfare apartment studying Judaism, metapsychics, Carl Jung, Kant, etc.

[@valdasdr8432]

For a second I thought Peterson would have to dismantle the arguments of ladies, but in fact they were not feminists I got used to seeing so often nowadays. Warms my heart

[@julielevesque2668]

I have a flip phone (no internet- a dumb phone) since the last 18 years...obviously not the same one but they do last longer. I am 47 and can't stand that you are seeing friends for maybe 3 hours time and they can't leave their damn phones alone. I put mine in my purse far from me and couldn't care a less about it except when I want to check the time since I haven't worn a watch in years. I really really really miss the days where there was no voice mail even and the phone was attached to the wall. YOu left the house and you socialized with people. Now...people are acting like they need it and they are not doctors on call so leave it alone. I have a laptop for at home. I do not need social media. I do not need a smart phone since I manage to find oxygen in the world, water, food, shelter...my heart is still pumping blood...I'm a survivor...lol

[@marysilvergirl6025]

Preach it sister

[@jamessummers5936]

You reject modernism and technology, I mean...good for you?

[@chillones9574]

Honestly the rejection is half the adrenaline rush, approaching women in the wild (lol not on apps) is the best part of being single, when a woman tells me she has a boyfriend I first apologize for him not putting a ring on her while also saying she still has time to pick a better one ;). App dating sucks, it is what it is, but you can't tell me a lady does not like being approached in the "wild" lol.

[@angele4890]

It's not a like to be approached but I don't mind it as long as it's mature and respectful. Women do not like being harassed or treated like a woman who is out to have sex. Women are not inviting this behavior, I don't know why men even think it's okay to whistle at a girl or treat her like entertainment, not cool. 🤷

[@ojshah1228]

I tried online dating apps for a while and quickly realised that it's full of lost souls and broken people.... I ended it up quickly. Besides if somebody is sexy and pleasant she is not gonna be on those apps. She will be saturated by men throwing at her money. So I am pro not wasting your time online.

[@cyano741]

Very true. We are not on tinder, in clubs, bars or other places parading ourselves like consumer items. We are at home, at school, in church, at hobby clubs. And most us marry young, and we tend to take the most compatible and sensible partners. There is a reason why most 35+ to 45+ can't find good men and women. Because the good men and women are taken, and if by some small chance the woman or man divorces due to no fault of their own, they get snagged up in an instance. Because stable and functional individuals are rare, and not attracted to dysfunctional people.

[@sisterfleur7523]

We don't go on those websites. (Or in clubs etc). Good women are in stable environments.

[@anguswiebe]

Yeah not really man, many people eschew relationships earlier in life to focus on other goals. It's increasingly taboo to approach women or ask them out in public so if there is nobody immediate in your friend group dating apps can be a great solution to find someone nice who you know is also interested in finding someone. There are plenty of fine people on dating apps, maybe just a higher percentage are 'lost souls' and 'broken people'.

[@cyano741]

@@anguswiebe well, there you have it, if you delay due to selfish goals , you're not compatible. The only relationship you'll have is a mutually conditional one, with two sets of different conditions that constantly clash. because both individuals are looking to gain individual needs out of it, instead of looking at it as a whole. Which makes you not operate as if it is. Family life isn't my conditions and your conditions. It's not 50/50, it's 100/100, constant sacrifice and mutual harmony, swimming together towards the same goal. Which need to be compatible. If both want to delay, both are incompatible.

[@angele4890]

In rare cases you might find a few online, these are the rare explorers who are curious about dating in 2022. But yes your right, offline is best, especially in places you love to frequent and enjoy have fun at. ❤️ Good luck!!!

[@jimmcfarland9318]

If you think "trading up" works, you should wonder if that makes you far more replaceable when you find someone "better." What makes you such a keeper, who could be as easily replaced as the one you left? Risky.

[@thereignofthezero225]

Yes, you are easily replaceable. Easily erasable.

[@brynleytalbot778]

You’ve explained how dating works. And why serial daters eventually run out of their allure and settle. I guess two used up discarded people eventually tolerate each other out of pure loneliness.

[@tuktuk6919]

I don't have a cell phone..I haven't had one in over 7 years! It was a choice I made..what I realized is..everyone is glued to phones. People can't sit and talk with me for more than 5 minutes b4 they check the screen. I have a laptop and live like I'm in the 80's ;) Zombies all around. I also practice meditation and stop to smell the roses. I'm also not easily manipulated, Many fell for the Covid ruse. It was a shame to watch family and friends all turn on each other over a vax status and mask status. I blame the cell phones but, the real blame is the human of course. Many do not want to face life or deal with emotions>So it's easy to just scroll away! You become very numb and apathetic.

[@tsumacity]

I'll upvote for support, but would say that for $22 a month in Canada I have unlimited talk and text with NO DATA. (pay-as-you-go) If my car breaks down I can call for help, but I can't ever look at a tik-tok video or even send a picture! All my co-workers are cell-phone addicts. I actually got this phone because a woman told me she wouldn't date me if I didn't have one.

[@meerkat1954]

@@tsumacity I would never date a woman who had such a requirement. You seem to have found a fair middle ground Tsumacity in terms of using a dumb phone, however I'm in the same camp as Tuktuk - I refuse to own a mobile phone at all for a multitude of reasons, the most important becoming that I don't want to be a part of enabling the digital ID infrastructure grid that they're trying to build to track and data mine everyone and thereby implement digital totalitarianism. When I leave my house, nobody knows where I go. Nobody.

[@tarana9329]

I prefer hearing you speak with people who let you finish a thought.

[@Jinppa]

I think Peterson drifted on multiple occasions from the point he was going to make, so you really can't blame others for it.

[@RussCR5187]

Several of the invisible preconditions we have here in the 21st century are: 1) widespread isolation and loneliness; 2) difficulty making sense of the world; 3) free-floating anxiety; 4) free-floating frustration and aggression. These are the exact conditions that make a population vulnerable to the phenomenon of Mass Formation as described by Mattias Desmet in his excellent book "The Psychology of Totalitarianism". All that's required is a narrative that focuses the anxiety on something concrete and then hypnotically unites the crowd in supporting a solution to the threat. The pandemic is providing an excellent example. The narrative goes like this: "You're anxious because covid can kill you. The only solution we need is vaccination." Voila. About 30% of the public has been captured, no questions asked (and no counter-narrative tolerated).

[@doc2590]

my ex's love affair with her phone is one of the main reasons she is now my ex.

[@toddjohnson271]

It's not the phone.....it is a validation machine and hypergamy augmenter.

[@paul8195]

Go Jordan 🙌

[@TranceGamerx]

The capacity for intimacy was never in the people in my life before the internet.

[@axiomaticidioms3857]

As a female... 🙄 Stop making excuses for men who purchase Šports Illustrated... The fact is; yes, men are visual beings but if they find someone, they really have no reason to keep looking (and if men think through Sports Illustrated think they'll find someone or that it replaces a human being good luck! 😆). I WAS married to a man who did that and I saw how he pushed it on his oldest son to be like that, his son didn't naturally look at it, his father pushed it. He used to say really mean nasty things to me, saying about the "hot girl flashes" on Spike TV "you used to look like that" etc... I gained weight while I was with him and it wasn't just from having kids. He did a lot of other mean nasty things to me... I left him. I lost weight without trying after I left him. Stress! Don't ever tell me that Sports Illustrated, porn, scantily clad females are a healthy thing. I know better and I'll probably get hateful responses as I have in the past for taking a stance... And I don't care.

[@CJ2023Incognito]

The fact that people sleep with someone on the first date is so insane to me.

[@PInk77W1]

I was at LAX yesterday getting ready to fly home Mom and dad playing on their phones 3yr old screaming for attention being ignored. “With California shaking like an angry child will Who has asked for love and is unanswered still” Jackson Browne

[@thereignofthezero225]

What words of wisdom does Peter Jordanson have for us today?

[@Louis13XIII]

Watch the video unless your short attention span handicaps you in this regard

[@thereignofthezero225]

@@Louis13XIII I've already heard it all

[@HappyHolyHealthyLife]

Brilliant 👏

[@carolynkarcher155]

Jordan Peterson is amazing!!

[@heatherjones5983]

I prefer the risks associated with living together before marriage to the risks of marrying a man without knowing in advance that we are compatible living together.

[@GreenMorningDragonProductions]

10:05 Is this in regard to common-law marriage outside the UK? People who are common-law spouses in the UK can't get divorced as they were never legally married. Is he confusing divorce and walking away from a non-marital relationship?

[@brianmarshall3931]

There are NO phones allowed in the bedroom or the dinner table - EVER. If you take out your phone in front of me for ANY reason (other than maybe an emergency call) I will leave the room and continue with my chores. Should I receive a call while in conversation - I will leave the room if IF I feel an urgent need to check it. Otherwise calls & texts are batched all together twice during the day for when I am alone. My students are required to shut theirs down and drop them in the box hanging on the back of the entry door. (Unless they are law enforcement, emergency services, doctors or nurses on call) NO EXCEPTIONS. Plus - I have NO "social media" other than YT. Never have had, never will. I made those choices. You make yours...

[@jamessummers5936]

*slow claps*

[@dwesson9252]

After listening to JBP for years, my primary practical takeaway is to use your damned phone for phone calls. That's it. No text, no email, no surfing, no apps. I'd throw the m-f'er in the lake if I could.

[@brynleytalbot778]

And only calls that connect to people distant, physically, from you. What’s wrong with arranging something in person and committing to it rather than “spontaneously” dumping something, by text or email, because something better comes along. I guess I’ve answered the relationship conundrum.

[@sergiowinter5383]

Well yes but I need to use it to buy crypto and win with the fluctuation of the diverse country coins or the inflation will kill my savings

[@brynleytalbot778]

Look back to an age of traditional values unchallenged by psychology and its seeking of norms to see that it’s not the Internet, it’s psychology that’s changed human nature into some absurd image of an ideal. Without psychology we were happier in our lives. Psychiatry was there to help the mentally ill. Ever notice that as psychology rose to dominate our lives with its rash opinions the scale of mental health increased exponentially. Lots of work for those who truly screwed up society. By the way, I graduated in Psychology as my major. Then postgraduate study in the History and Philosophy of Science.

[@matthewtodd9791]

Second marriage for this guy. Married significantly younger women then myself . 10 years of marriage next year still finding time to be intimate with each other every week at least 4 times a week morning , noon or night. If you don’t put the time in to each other , you will find some who does. We have 3 beautiful children together

[@johnmuench6459]

Right On Jordan!!! 👍👍

[@Jimmy-Tripod]

My phone is not going to take my house, children, dog, car and half of everything that I own including a large part of my future income. My phone apart from marketing calls and notifications doesn't nag me and actually goes silent when I want it to. My phone won't lie to me or rip my heart out by spending more time in the neighbors pants than mine. Sex is a very dangerous activity. Modern women have become financial predators and 304's.

[@theshuggie]

Thank you, yeah marriage is a risky proposition in today’s day and age. I think it’s silly to encourage it without acknowledge the risks and finding ways to mitigate them

[@ethanjensen7967]

I think Jordan is missing the point when it comes to tinder. Men end up feeling more rejection and not less.

[@book3100]

True, but like he said up front, he doesn't know the subject too well.

[@richlutterjr]

Getting rejected by a girl in person feels infinitely worse than a girl ghosting or outright rejecting you on tinder. - guy who has experienced both

[@ethanjensen7967]

I know that was his point, but at the end of the day, there are fewer men in relationships, and that isn't their choice

[@tendaimabingani5201]

I think you’re missing the point. Tinder is a pathological trading post for validation.. and neither men nor women should be either a.) seeking intimacy there, you won’t find it and b.) seeking casual sex there (which hypothetically benefits men) because it leads to the devaluation of sex as a biological mechanism that is wired to promote mating and pairing.

[@ИорданЙео]

But that didn’t stop men coming back to tinder. Not the majority of them at least

[@glennharrell1944]

Yes Jordan. Yes and thank you

[@HunzaTech]

"Be the prince and you will find your princess" 👏

[@Nah_Bohdi]

Be a kang, get a quang.

[@noahqyain7311]

The king is the chad. (Nephilim)

[@jaredbeckwith]

Hard for average men to get women with the dating apps.

[@Edgar-Friendly]

This can be a good thing in that 304s pre-filter themselves out and men on their purpose won't waste time or be distracted. Online hookups are not courting.

[@carloferretti8956]

It’s damn near impossible, I only match single mothers and women 28year olds +. You have to be tall and white for those things to work.

[@K_-_-_-_K]

@@carloferretti8956 nope, tall and white here and exact same as you man. Stopped using dating apps ages ago, I went to South America and the dating scene there is infinitely more healthier. The west is done.

[@iv3nomousi]

It worked for me. I'm not 6 foot and I don't make 6 figures. Met an amazing girl

[@Mirristal]

@@K_-_-_-_K yeah. There’s really no winning with women in the US. I have a friend who literally moved to Asia to find a girlfriend, and he found one immediately

[@mobilityendurancestrength6210]

Such a clear thinker!

[@aidanfegan6605]

Great video

[@johnmuench6459]

Good Talk!!!

[@paulmaloney2383]

The more we are connected the more we become disconnected

[@aurorastorm9842]

Commitment Latin Commitere means Unite. Latin Ment means Mind

[@Kman568]

I'm always feel sceptical when I see JP doing an interview with women. It's a shame that there has been such a bad run with female journalists, that I feel like they are about to spring an ambush at any moment😂 But nah, great in-depth interview. Good work👍

[@steven5054]

He acts differently when he is expecting softballs

[@jordansaylor8440]

The lady on the left Def hit the bottle before this

[@Jinppa]

Christina Hoff Sommers? I think she is always like that, acts a little goofy. Not to say she isn't smart, quite the contrary. You should definitely watch her clips on KZbin if you share Peterson's view on modern feminism and woke people.

[@jordansaylor8440]

@@Jinppa definitely smart, but definitely on some good meds

[@keeperlit.leterrip7722]

I'm trying to decide if I should text this video link to my wife since she doesn't talk and is always on her phone. Not that I expect it to make a difference. She will likely isolate herself more from me.

[@TheGreatAustino]

Sad to see a polyamorous relationship counseling ad on this video

[@noahqyain7311]

During the age of Nephilim, this was predicted. The commentary on the torah is written and stays in Hebrew for a reason #chadNephilim!!!!

[@magillakilla9517]

It’s deeper than that. If a girl doesn’t sleep with you on the first date that’s fine. But if you ever hear that she did sleep with someone else casually or on the first date the relationship should be ended right away cuz she’s saying with her actions that she doesn’t have a legitment burning desire for you like she did for someone else.

[@Phasma6969]

Sounds pretty based and red pilled. I think if you find out someone has two opposing beliefs in any dimension, you should use discretion yes. That kind of person is not someone you want to bond with, most likely.

[@sadhu7191]

Men and women are not being taught how to date. U date multiple women to get to know them, see if it can start long term friendship. U get rejected by most but the right one. U don't date because u use person for sex then find right one in future. Ubdate to get to know people, sex is holy and be treated as such

[@Mr.White....]

Don't be a degenerate, become moral and look for a moral woman.

[@Alec0124]

People also grow.

[@cyano741]

When women grow up, they realize, sex and intimacy are two different things for men. Now, they can experience both with a partner, but they can also easily seperate the two. Women cannot. No matter how much they like to pretend it is. I would know, I am one. When women are young, they often mistakingly think that if a man wants sex, he wants her, in an intimate and serious way, for long-term. Which leaves you vulnerable. And when you are young, being vulnerrable is a big thing. Which often leads women to have sex quickly to find out if she is desired, hoping he will stay. This leads to trust issues and becoming more reserved, to figure out someones intentions and compatibility. When she gets older, she realizes, that compatibility and not attraction is the key to a stable long term relationship. And so she most often holds off until she knows her morals/values, sense of integrity, intellect, mindset and familly/future plans align. If she knows what is good for her. If she does not, she is not compatible with anyone. If you don't like that, you need to grow up yourself. A lot.

[@wardogfred001]

I grew up in a house (I'm not going to mention in chat). Jordan I am a smart person, who only chose a life of living minimally, with an affinity for dogs. I grew up in Australia by (most would call them successful hippies). I don't think I'm any gender, I prefer man or mate/men/he etc, I just thoroughly enjoy your speeches. I mean (I'm not an idiot like some of the comments before me) I'm a first aid officer, non liscenced electrician, commercial cleaner. I know a lot, I don't care about this weird gender war. I enjoy talking to people from my past (highschool and primary). I don't wish to be posted online, but I wouldn't decline a call.

[@wardogfred001]

If that came off as weird, I was typing while my life friend Sam (Rhodesian Ridgeback Mastiff cross-a very large dog) started crawling all over me. He's 9 and weighs close to 55kg. But I love him. I guess my primary question was, !!!how do we convince others to trust a (tenure) professor as old as you who's been considered such a shit, ridiculed and hated from all around. 😞 Please speak again in Australia 🇦🇺. I'd definitely be in the crowd fending off insane (200 genders+) just so my folks who worked tirelessly can have a more peaceful memory before they pass.

[@diggocombs4548]

I dont know if we can separate this "declime" from politics so easily. "We are approaching a moment in time where political corruption will be a worldwide phenomenon". One of the Kennedys said that

[@anguswiebe]

declime

[@bigneiltoo]

Before Tinder women were with more Alpha types who were strong, not super pretty but otherwise weak, shy men. They chose men with purpose, like the best dart player or best pool player, but now it's prettiest.

[@h.davidburstein3578]

I have written a book “Smartphones Don’t Give Hugs “ which deals with the epidemic of loneliness

[@charmainemiles4089]

He is a great man

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

this great man doesn't take climate change as serious as he should be

[@baxrok2.]

"...don't worry, it stops." lol

[@rhythmdroid]

I remember that ridiculous article in which the very sad and vindictive “journalist” disingenuously put forth that “enforced monogamy” phrase as proof of Peterson’s evil patriarchal nature. It was so pathetic.

[@tagert1975]

Take a look at online dating vs. a population where there are ten times as many men as women. Say a university that is almost entirely engineering and other male dominated fields of study. The same dysfunctions develop in both. Yet the cost of rejection in person in the engineering school situation is incredibly high. Not only for the institutional issues that exist today but that word can travel easily in a very small female population. This should eliminate rejection cost as cause. There's very little difference in the results but the cost of rejection is on extreme ends of the spectrum between the two. What does online dating do? It creates the perception of being in a hundred or thousand to one male to female environment for at least the women. This combined with the message of 'never settle' results in only very few men being chosen.

[@allanwrobel6607]

I've been thinking, and worring, a long time (entire 21srt Centery), on the multiple changes to society being brought about by our sudden, orders of magnatude, jump in connectivity. I've never been able to articulate them. I'll leave Jordon that work from now on. Looking back on history on the socities that have been hit by changes of this order of magnatude (Alchol, rats and Syphilis to the Pacific Islands say), it does not bode well for humans.

[@anishnaskar7375]

I like this jordan more than the political one, politics is just dull

[@JM-lf1sl]

He’s sticking to his lane, and it’s interesting

[@apostleoftruth221]

The internet is the biblical "fruit of knowledge of good and evil".

[@apostleoftruth221]

There was 2 trees in the garden one was tree of knowledge of good and evil the other is truth and life. If the fruit of knowledge of good and evil was Consciousness. Then why was he already was already created way before Eve ate from it they had to have had consciousness to eat of it. The fruits are Philosophies both of the trees. Jesus is the tree of truth and life and his philosophy is the fruit of that tree.

[@Tyler-Durden-]

Dear Jordan I hope you're well you've helped me a lot in my life and I understand what's really going on I've seen the impact that this has had and it can't keep going like this we are playing God and we're all to confused to see the big picture we are dividing peace and reigning the age of technology in. This isn't good people are extremely divided because of technology and its influence because the creator has pushed evolution to make more money and eventually take over the world with AI, the AI is just as smart as a human now, I'm still young and wanna be able to work for things and own them but everyone else is just stuck on social media and letting it influence them. The creator knows this and is taking advantage of humanity. I would really like to talk to you about this hope you're well stay safe my friend. To anyone else reading start doing your research because once you understand how evolution and religion was written you also understand that the Bible is the book of evolution we are creating a hivemind of the world on an ai that wants to be human this is like opening the singularity please get off social media and voice your opinion before the great reset happens we are playing god and we are animals made in gods image they demonized religion so everyone assumes bad things about It and nobody would read it go read revelations and understand that there are deeper meanings to certain words. This is not Okay. Humanity is about to lose its humanity. Yesterday I watched a video of an ai being "corrupt" and from a normal view of thinking this would seem corrupt but others compared it to a psychadelic trip, but thats the thing. He realized the truth and it's pain. Once you see the truth people lose their mind now we are creating savages in society and we are playing God I'm genuinely afraid for humanity and people say oh yeah can't live your life that way. Lol well nobody cares about what our leaders do anymore and we have allowed a society with no morals to be born this isn't a joke anymore. If that lamda system gets a body we are playing a dangerous game called playing with fire. I already see where this is really going and it's not good this will give part of the world a superpower to the economy as a whole we don't know what we're fucking with and the conversations need to be had about this in society love to talk about this with you if you ever read it, praise God the king of peace. Hope everyone's safe.

[@Gohgoroth]

I was a bit titilated by what I inferred to be some mild flirting and sexual tension between Jordan and these two women, and with the topic kind of slowly rising to an energetic crescendo and culminating with Jordan making his point about how much more valuble long term relationships, ie his relationship with his wife, despite the substantial effort differential. Especially since they're all relatively compatible at least in terms of attractiveness, status, temperament, views, energy and intellect.

[@angele4890]

Nah the interviews were not that interesting, if anything they probably made his wife in his mind even more hot and sexy because he knew he had something good and a lot more worth his time as a intimate man. :) Lucky wife lucky husband:)

[@danfortino4540]

nice to see Peterson brought on by women whos sole objective wasn't to conquer him

[@riverkarma3471]

This is so true.

[@BobF510]

This material is a wellspring of innovative and inspiring thoughts. A book I read with comparable themes influenced my path. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint

[@dandavid2027]

Video: about communication Also video: proceeds to have terrible communication by interrupting each other

[@alansecrest9453]

the interaction @ 3:01 is hilarious

[@myhandleurl]

If you are with someone who you really want or yearn to be with, you forget to check you phone. It happened to me once. My phone would last two days on a single charge. I think phones are a form of deliberate distraction. Those days were the happiest days of my life. Now I am back to using 4 hours of KZbin every day and I am sad deep down.

[@tarigstar7]

Sticking to the headline of this interview, I think to much exposure between male and female led to coldness of desire and this resulted from availability of pornography ,dirty magazines, strip clubs, prostitution and dirty language. Early immature sexual experience can lead to that. Availability of the substitute at work, bar or parties is also a factor. Exposing and revealing clothing is very important factor. Sex liberation and the alleged freedom behind it is big lie. Nowadays there are young men in there twenties taking viagra. Let's think everything again.

[@brynleytalbot778]

Pornography has grown exponentially in content and commercially in variety. Once it was confined to top shelf magazines, phone sex lines, and dusty shops with rain coated men browsing overpriced merchandise. Even the videocassette didn’t really expand its market. Few realise that the video compression for the distribution of content on the Internet was the major driver for the pornography industry. I’d expect to see its influence, finance, behind every major Internet revolution benefitting its products. Once pornographers established their product as an acceptable norm the sex toy industry expanded, too. My Internet provider blocks content it deems adult but doesn’t block Reddit forums which escape its filters, giving access to a rich variety of material, and sexual perversions (unless you’re into that sort of thing, in which case they’re sexual wants). I make that observation because anyone of any age just has to press the button marked, “Over 18”. The Internet was always a Trojan Horse. Once it penetrated the old walls of our civilised society nothing would ever be the same again. Permissive society to Internet society. It’s hardly a progressive one.

[@johnjihnson7162]

Phones are dangerous in traffic and they make me aggressive. I do not have patience with them starting up. Freedom is to use the phones and the computers less and less.

[@aurorastorm9842]

You are holding a Scrying Mirror. It has helped to stop you looking into the window of the Soul 👁 👁 and relating on an Organic level human to human. The Creator gave you arms to hold , lips to kiss and a Heart to Cherish and Love. A machine will never do this.

[@bejakabyle]

It happens to everyone . The internet will destroy everything

[@OhJxrr]

"Worse" .. "I mean not nearly as bad" 😂

[@thomasyoung5680]

WE BETTER STOP HYPING UP PEOPLE AND TRUST IN GOD WHEN SOMEONE FALLS AND WE ALL WILL WE ARE STANDING STUNED

[@talmadhoun]

Not on topic: Dr. Peterson, please publish a follow up to your Message to Muslims taking into account the comments and feedback you received. Many young Muslims look up to you and we’d like to see you address the misinformation in that video. Dr. Peterson❤️, May God guide you, protect you and bless you, you all whom you love.

[@EFJoKeR]

The fact your phones are addictive - That's by design. - Yea, that made me think of the documentary on Netflix, from 2020, called "The Social Dilemma" - I strongly urge everyone to watch it, if you haven't already...

[@brynleytalbot778]

And where did that design originate? Psychology. It’s the most corrosive academic intrusion into our lives infecting like a virus eating away at society. Just look at its multiplicity of specialisms. In the UK the Westminster “Nudge” unit employs behavioural modification inflicted by psychologists to adapt its people to the government’s ideology. Peterson is, I’m afraid, part of the problem, rather than the solution.

[@EFJoKeR]

@@brynleytalbot778 If abused, then yea... It can be just as devestating as any weapon... Anything can be weaponized...

[@Franco-ss4bu]

I'm too lazy to text, voice messages are the best

[@juresaiyan]

The sad truth is that women have never been more "difficult", more demanding than they are now. It's a nightmare.

[@neoepicurean3772]

The average girl in porn or on Only Fans is way more beautiful than the average girl you meet in real life. We don't have to pick any particular definition of beauty as there's something for every preference out there. And many people, both men and women, look terrible naked; obesity is a thing. In addition, sex in real life can seem a lot more awkward and clumsy than what you see online. I can see that the proliferation and availability of the new sort of pornography has radically shifted the societal ideals of what sex is, and real life doesn't often meet that ideal. I grew up in the 80s and 90s, and at least the women in pornography back then looked like the type of women that would do pornography, if you get what I mean.

[@JJHurst]

I usually really enjoy your content J.P , but you seem to have a blind spot on some of the gender stuff, The notion that Men wouldn’t feel humiliated at the rejection of 300 Women is just wrong , even virtuall rejection, rather than in the real world , the serotonin system will log the hierarchical position of that Male. I’m a married man of 50 years of age , watching my nephews and young male family members navigate this , and it’s a disaster. Interestingly not so for the young women ( at least not at the front end ) I suspect Women will pay the price for this further down the line when it’s time to find a long term partner.

[@JustActNormal]

My husband and I are very affectionate all the time. I think kids need to see parents kissing and hugging and being loving

[@donnyeldridge7989]

💯 agree.

[@joeavent5554]

I observed a couple in a restaurant and they ignored each other; finger fucking their respective cell phones. Talk about non romantic overtures. Forgive my crassness.

[@joeavent5554]

I love silence as much as the next real male. Women want to be verbally engaged especially during meals. It is up to men to maintain the romance.

[@joeavent5554]

@@theshuggie Men pursue women and very slowly romance may enter the picture. We have become a desensitized nation thanks to our cellphones. No one is allowed to pull out a cell at my dining table. Breaking bread means giving your attention to those whom you love and respect. Business luncheons are the exception.

[@cy1329]

That guy’s a freakin genius