The Rise of WOKE Fascism

The word fascism conjures up black and white images of massive military parades of goose stepping fascists in Germany, Spain and Italy. You probably don't think of rainbow flags and Democratic presidents giving the NYPD permission to crush college kids protesting. But that is where we are at in 2024 - where fascism comes to the west draped in a rainbow flag while claiming to protect progressive values from illiberal elements.
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[@Canoby]

Not being a homophobe doesn't excuse apartheid

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

They're still homophobes. Zionists conveniently ignore: -Israel doesn't have marriage equality, or even secular marriage. -The religious weirdos in Netanyahu's coalition are also openly homophobic. -Queer Palestinians are treated just as bad as any other Palestinians -In the West Bank IDF and Israeli intelligence blackmail queer Palestinians to force them into being collaborators

[@unclebozo9845]

what's even more ironic is same-sex marriage is illegal in Israel.

[@markharrison6498]

@@unclebozo9845I was about to reference this

[@simonsays5193]

@@unclebozo9845They're only woke when its convenient.

[@user-gi8pk9uc7q]

@@unclebozo9845 Which is totally unfair!

[@badcarlos551]

The problem with identity politics is that it's perfectly possible to belong to a marginalised community yet have completely regressive, even abhorrent, politics.

[@prismpyre7653]

yeah definitely; it just means you have to contextualize and approach it differently depending on the identity of the person in question if you want to redress it; i.e. Black supremacism is NOT a mirror image or counterpart of white supremacy and it shoulnd't be regarded or treated in the same way, that's all; I'm just wary of this reactionary carping on 'identity politics' which is a pretty vague broad thing

[@woobiefuntime]

@@prismpyre7653 it is the same. They work together because both want separate spaces.

[@thraxarioustailchaser158]

Your religion, race, sexuality, or whatever identity you have does not make you immune to being ignorant or bigoted.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Billionaires literally fund a group just like that called the faily wire I mean daily wire.

[@waltonsmith7210]

But barely anyone who seriously pushes identity politics believes that their specific group is superior and flawless. Most of them just want to be treated the same as everyone else. The point of identity politics isnt to say "group x is flawless" but rather "group x shouldnt be suppressed."

[@roetc]

Intersectional imperialism 💓💖

[@sparklemotion8377]

@strawberrymilkshake915 Yes! This has been going on forever!

[@lesbiangoddess290]

Ayyy🎉🎉🎉. (Seriously they were totally unhinged for this.) Leave my community alone. Black queers for palestine!!!

[@all1764]

😭😭😭

[@shzarmai]

Bruh, I hope this gets covered more in fiction tbh

[@sparklemotion8377]

@@shzarmai I am not on fakebook anymore, but you had several pages about this topic. I unsubscribed because just like right wing clown planet pages they didn't go beyond mocking the status quo. No solutions were offered, and no actions were taken. It's just entertainment while the world is on fire.

[@vsmith1688]

I always point out to people that Israel is actually extremely misogynistic and homophobic, among both the secular and religious communities. The fact that the country has more liberal laws doesn’t reflect societal views.

[@linagreenlyfe6705]

How can they be extremely misogynistic and homophobic I they have liberal laws and values? (They legalized gay marriage nationwide before the US)

[@linagreenlyfe6705]

How can they be extremely misogynistic and homophobic if they legalized gay marriage nationwide before the US?

[@Liberte-bq5rc]

The huge glaring difference you're too dense to see? Someone will be prosecuted by the law if they kill a person because they're gay in Israel. This is called a hate crime. In Gaza literally one of the leaders of Hamas Ishtiwi was brutally tortured and executed even considered part of one of the "royal families of Hamas" because he was suspected of being gay. This was called a fatwa, religious sanctioned killing for his immorality in the name of Allah.

[@flyingtiger4808]

Agreed. Those liberal laws won’t stop the Zionist and Alt-Righters from fucking shit up in Isreal towards Gay people

[@rickybobby5153]

At least they don’t throw LGBT from roof tops

[@ard4461]

All I can think about is the Queering the Map entries in Palestine, with queer Palestinians lamenting the occupation, the loss of their loved ones and the state of fear they lived in.

[@RationalistMH]

Queering the Map is a site with no verification and where anyone could claim to be in any location and make up whatever story fits their agenda. I’m not saying they’re fake, but when it comes to such a polarizing conflict where both sides have an interests and do engage in propaganda it is a little bit naive to believe gay Palestinians who are facing what you would call a genocide gave the time and resources to log onto a random Internet site

[@Montesama314]

"Aww, dang, my pretty gay flag's covered with all those schoolchildren's blood!"

[@SpartanJoe193]

Democrats be like

[@dailymadness9129]

@@SpartanJoe193aren’t conservatives and republicans the ones who want guns everywhere?

[@weirdautumn]

Well, if I have to choose between me (and the LGBTQ community) or them, the answer is obvious. Being a muslim is not very progressive, as you may know

[@sophiepooks2174]

@@SpartanJoe193 Republicans be like; 'who needs a rainbow flag to do that?'

[@flybynight7984]

​@@sophiepooks2174 The comments you make are beyond ridiculous. You're a prime example of how intolerant the 'tolerant' left are.

[@katyungodly]

"Sure I'm doing horrible evil things, but look, I'M PRO-LGBT!"

[@homelander7742]

"Sure, I'm going to commit horrible atrocities against the LGBT community, but look, I'M ANTI-ISRAEL!"

[@Antwalls92.]

@@homelander7742 you’re an absolute joke at this point that you’re just making up shit

[@user-zv8md9xv8c]

Those people never actually admit wrong-doing.

[@deannaabeyta1855]

You can like men and be against the genocide of an entire country, it's not that hard

[@PosiWritesStories]

I agree. I do that daily.

[@homelander7742]

"You can like men..." Not if you live in Gaza you can't.

[@1Dark.Paradise.Lost1]

​@homelander7742 In Gaza. The only food you're allowed is animal feed, and that's because the Israeli's starve them

[@Randomvietnamdude]

@@homelander7742 You don't use LGBT to justify genocide, that just gives more ammunition to reinforce homophobic view

[@homelander7742]

@@Randomvietnamdude You don't use Muslims to justify the genocide of LGBT people. That just gives more ammunition to reinforce Islamophobic views.

[@HoneyBoom]

as a lesbian that picture makes me fucking sick.

[@all1764]

Same :/

[@amarok5048]

As a straight white man, it makes me fucking sick too.

[@V1sdasd]

Wait till you find out what happens to lesbians in Muslim countries.

[@grambo4436]

Gay man here i agree!

[@maxschur9301]

as a straight autistic left leaning Zionist, that picture is based!

[@puffball4484]

The first photo is straight out of a South Park episode. You can't make that up.

[@tjenadonn6158]

It's literally the "More gay war criminals" meme.

[@morbidsearch]

Except South Park would never criticise Israel.

[@sanninjiraiya]

I used to disagree with the sentiment of scratching a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Liberalism is a big tent ideology in the west and it seemed unfair to paint with such a broad brush. But the last few months have pretty consistently shown that the sentiment holds true for far too often to ignore it.

[@woobiefuntime]

You guys are siding with with fascist organizations for a stupid reason. You think they are going to bring on a communist revolution.

[@randomhuman2595]

r/europe is a pretty wild example of this happening

[@SurrealEdifice]

"A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now."

[@6idangle]

Yea I never did, if you read any revolutionary history, at every turn the left was betrayed by fascists. Who betrayed the June days? Liberals…. Who betrayed the Russians in 1905 liberals among others. Who betrayed the German revolution post ww1? It was liberals pretending to be social democrats. The saying is spot on the money, they’ll side with fascism EVERYTIME When push comes to shove.

[@kylezo]

It's not just that. Liberals are not leftists. Neoliberal policy has been disenfranchising and criminalizing poverty for decades upon decades. Class oppression is fascism. Liberalism is really just the reception desk at Fascism Enterprises.

[@telluhwatboy]

Kinda crazy that Israel gets more support from the American government, on all levels, than native black Americans.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

Not surprising though sadly. The US government has always been like that. Literally since before the country even started. Especially given we’re founded on very similar actions as to what Israel is doing now, just against indigenous Americans.

[@tjenadonn6158]

Or LGBT Americans, disabled americans, Native Americans, or really the vast majority of Americans who aren't billionaires. Israel is the US government's favorite country on earth, with Saudi Arabia being a close second. I don't think the US cracks the top 10.

[@D13Nword]

Native black Americans? 😂

[@Antwalls92.]

@@D13Nword we are native this is our country we was enslaved to

[@himpim642]

@@saltydinonuggies1841 usa supports only coutnires that are in their interestss.other colonial projects and empires liek russia which is aslo expansaionist settler oclonial sts#ate whcih in fact held alska and forts till california is violently opposed and branded as dungeon of people despite their natives beign far more integrated.

[@mobwatch8119]

This is psychopathy in action. Learning the vernacular of regular people, the things they care about, and thinking they can use buzzwords while committing atrocities.

[@dmwalker24]

But that's exactly like calling your party the National Socialists. The last few years is an endless stream of attempts to appropriate any kind of language which they felt would obscure what they really are, or that would just muddle the discourse to make distinctions meaningless.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

It’s not “psychopathy in action” ASPD is a real mental illness and tying actual war crimes to it is absolutely wild and extremely harmful to both the people affected by those crimes as well as people who just have ASPD. Please actually learn what ASPD is before using words like that.

[@slowhondaenjoyer6746]

@@saltydinonuggies1841 well im assuming hes using it in a more metaphorical sense, like the "psychopathic values of capitalism" or similar. Not that everybody who is following such values is actually suffering from ASPD.

[@paulanderson2963]

Saying somebody is acting like a psychopath or has done something that reminds you of psychopathic behavior does not mean you are performing a diagnosis. The same way I can say someone behaves like an idiot that does not mean I have any clue as to what their IQ or level of intelligence may actually be. It just means I've witnessed a behavior and I'm trying to give it some sort of contextual reference as I speak to others about it.

[@GabSte1989]

@@saltydinonuggies1841 What do you mean when you say "it's absolutely wild" in this context?

[@SkyguyFilmsZooruvfilms]

These evil people don’t understand that the oppressed and colonized won’t have much social progress when they’re busy trying to live and regain their independence

[@garethmorgan3665]

Sure , always blame some one else.

[@randomkyle3]

not an excuse for throwing gay people off roofs…

[@dliap98]

i am so tired of seeing comments saying that "Palestine is homophobic" as if it's some sort of gotcha moment. people are really acting like there aren't any LGBTQ+ Palestinians, and that every single Palestinian thinks exactly the same way on the topic. we have been constantly told this idea that Palestine, and many other countries where Islam is the main religion, are just places where 100% of the population are bigoted extremists. like it's such a stupid and unintelligent argument with absolutely no understanding of nuance and basic common sense. but people who believe that shit don't see Palestinians as real human beings that are of equal value to Israelis. people are really out here living in the UK and the USA where anti-LGBTQ+ hate is alive and kicking, and then make this stupid argument with no evidence to back up what they're saying. and to even believe that a group of people that they have decided is homophobic therefore deserves to be targeted and slaughtered like this is just disgusting. there are some truly heartless people out there. anyway, free Palestine🇵🇸

[@chrisbfreelance]

I haven't really seen anyone make the argument that the killing of Palestinians are fine because they are on the whole homophobic. Muslim majority are on the whole against homosexulaity, this isn't a wild take.

[@lawncrow]

One of the things that has kept me out of things like racism and general bigotry in my life is the realization that any demographic being 100% evil would be an incredible statistical anomaly, and therefore can't ever be taken seriously if you want to be truly intellectually honest. At all times it is vital to remember the people who suffer under the systems they live under in foreign countries. Every single bozo out there who has thought about fighting a war to promote "civility" and to wipe out the "barbarians" always falls into the same trap: thinking the ends justify the means.

[@AlexGarvin-fw2ri]

​@@chrisbfreelancewhen ever someone says "palestinians are homophobic" THAT is what they are doing. Republicans are homophobic, american christians are homophobic. Its only ever brought up when justifying ethnic cleansing

[@user-hg9qs7ro8w]

well, being gay is illegal in gaza and legal in israel... just saying...

[@randomkyle3]

i mean… they literally throw gay people off roofs and there’s whole crowds cheering it on. Are we supposed to support that?

[@LUCYDebDolly]

I think whats lost is solidarity. Its not supposed to be transactional. Im a gay woman. Two groups who a lot of Islamic fundamentalists want to control. That doesnt stop me from supporting Palestine because the point is to be against injustistice and in support of the marginalised. Not tit for tat.

[@dliap98]

and as if christian fundamentalists aren't actively trying to take our rights away in western countries right now. but to them fundamentalism is only bad when it's Muslims doing it, and they think it's fine when christians do it. and to them every single Muslim is an 'extremist' but christians are allowed to have many different denominations with differing views on things. it's just pure Islamophobia and racism so they can try to justify an ethnic cleansing campaign against Palestinians

[@Antwalls92.]

I think solidarity for the most part should be transactional. I don’t think I would be super Kumbaya with someone who hates African-Americans… that’s just me though injustice is terrible but if I feel as though someway would also have that same injustices if they had the power to do so I wouldn’t support them. That’s just me. I’m sorry.

[@V1sdasd]

A religion with 1.8 billion followers is not "marginalized", especially if that religion is jailing or unaliving actual marginalized people like women, LGBT people, Jewish people, atheists, apostates, etc.

[@V1sdasd]

Seriously, why do you support intolerant ideologies that don't want you to exist? they get your support today and take your freedom or life tomorrow because that's what their intolerant ideology demands. Do you not care about what would happen if those ideologies continued spreading and oppressing more people, people like you?

[@CraigTheBrute-yf7no]

@@V1sdasdnone of the above groups are marginalised in any way. Some of them are doing all the marginalization.

[@walpoleandworcester]

The modern day Trojan horse. Look at the actions, not just the words and you’ll know what these corporations really think.

[@all1764]

"The modern day Trojan horse." describes this perfectly. Would you mind if I used this?

[@walpoleandworcester]

@@all1764go ahead!

[@Jaco059]

Yes the Trojan horse of the corporations caring about the lgbtq

[@fnurbz]

Amsterdam is saying no to genocide ✌️🇵🇸

[@TheForeignersNetwork]

I hate Sam Harris so much. As a Buddhist it makes me so ridiculously angry that he preaches meditation while also preaching intolerance

[@tjenadonn6158]

Sam Harris is Jordan Peterson for people who still haven't realized they're right wing.

[@anopinionatedlaymanappears9052]

​@@tjenadonn6158 100% this

[@TerribleTom113]

​@tjenadonn6158 I personally wouldn't go that far, myself. I'm a full blown Marxist, and if we seperate the wheat from the chaff, Peterson is 1% wheat, 99% chaff, but Harris, (in my opinion) is more like 60% chaff, 40% wheat. Sure, there's still plenty to dislike about Harris, but I think there is a substantive and meaningful difference in the general quality of the two.

[@anopinionatedlaymanappears9052]

@@TerribleTom113 Dude I'm Marxist and he's absolutely correct. It doesn't mean that they are both the same. The point is Harris is Peterson for liberals. Or Harris is the lgbq friendly version of Peterson. Take your pick. They are both gurus for a deluded audience.

[@TerribleTom113]

@@anopinionatedlaymanappears9052 I think there is more to like with Harris. Meditation is something everyone ought to do, in my opinion, and psychedelics (when used rationally) are fantastic and started me down the path that led to becoming a Marxist. Harris criticisms of religion are, in my opinion, generally valid, and his moral positions are generally much more valid than Peterson's. Don't get me wrong, it's not like Harris doesn't have plenty of problems, and I'm not a huge raving fan or anything, but I think putting him in the same camp as Peterson, the "Peterson for liberals" dismisses the value Harris does have that Peterson doesn't. (Peterson just flat out f*cking sucks. No argument there.) Maybe we're just debating which type of cancer is more deadly, and my arguement just boils down to "skin cancer is technically better to have than brain cancer." 😂 I just think Harris deserves a little more credit than "Liberal Jordan Peterson."

[@URFTBOUND4LIFE]

If there's ever a reason to bring up racism within the LGBT community, this is it ...

[@Volundur9567]

There's a lot of it too.

[@V1sdasd]

I don't blame any LGBT person who doesn't want to support intolerant ideologies that don't want LGBT people to exist. Hundreds of LGBT people are jailed or unalived in Muslim countries, why would any LGBT person support intolerant countries and their intolerant ideologies? It's not about race, it's about wanting to be alive and free, but that's not possible in Muslim run countries.

[@martianhighminder4539]

​@@V1sdasd'Unalived', my God, what a child. And if LGBTQIA+ folks can only see the world through the lens of their particular oppression worries, why should the hetero majority of the world waste its time on their narrow, shallow concerns?

[@Justanotherconsumer]

“Being one of the good (insert demonized group here)” is mostly about holding socially compliant views on other demonized groups.

[@Jaco059]

@@Justanotherconsumeryes and what makes you better

[@pedroportillo1585]

Where’s the anti-woke crowd on this one?

[@Zeitaluq]

That particular crowd you mentioned indeed support what that soldier holding colourful flag is doing his pose

[@Tigerman303]

They’re only anti-woke when it suits them.

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

Same place they always are. They've always used some group of marginalized people as a stick to beat another group.

[@pedroportillo1585]

@@Zeitaluq Which makes them hypocritical. A thing is either woke, or not not. They can’t change the definition depending on how’s doing the “woking”.

[@beardoodle9835]

​@@jeffersonclippership2588 Exactly. 🎯🎯

[@mariaharez3562]

I’m white Muslim who does support lgbt+ rights and I am feminist, and I believe that same as Christianity Islam can progress if you give it a chance. Not all of us are extremist or even conservative, but the west attacking Muslim countries and communities doesn’t help with the progression, and only push Muslim community further away from western values. So if west wants to make Muslim more inclusive and tolerant west should open their arms and bring the community together, the hate just tear us apart and further divide us 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@chrisbfreelance]

It's up to said Muslim communities to integrate and adopt western values if they live in western society, they shouldn't be invited to do so.

[@bestrafung2754]

I'm a white Muslim convert and the same as you. This kind of stuff just makes it worse and, if anything, may even hinder LGBTQ+ rights in some areas of the Middle Ease as well as other Muslim communities, including in Europe. Christians and Jews don't have great histories with LGBTQ+ rights either and there are still many who are homophobic. Many African countries are great modern day examples along with Russia. Using arguments like "Palestinians don't support LGBTQ+ rights" makes no sense.

[@nimrodery]

@@chrisbfreelance Western values like supporting war crimes?

[@RationalistMH]

@@nimrodery Western values like women not being second class citizens, women being able to vote and have equal rights, gay people getting married and not killed for who they are, democracy as opposed to authoritarian theocratic rule etc etc.

[@nimrodery]

@@RationalistMH They don't seem to be western values when we arm regimes like Saudi Arabia. Did you want to try again?

[@THX11458]

For conservatives, the definition of "Woke" has just degenerated into "any random thing I don't like."

[@chrisbfreelance]

No it hasn't, there is nuance to things, but you wouldn't care about that.

[@gregmark1688]

For conservatives, every negative means exactly that. They are largely incapable of nuance.

[@Vhlathanosh]

@@chrisbfreelance yes, it has. Everyone knows it.

[@THX11458]

@@gregmark1688 I had one literally argue that mining lithium was "woke" because lithium is typically used for electric car batteries. This, despite the fact that the vast majority of lithium is used in batteries that power cell phones and other electronic devices that everyone uses.

[@V1sdasd]

And now "leftists" are also misusing the term to mean anything that they don't like either.

[@RobHel]

Liberal fascism describes it pretty good as well..

[@samirfarag6568]

As a Muslim (Egyptian born and raised), I MASSIVELY respect that while you dislike organized religion, you still see issue with the demonization of Islam (and by extention Arabs & Desis). Thank you for having a strong set of beliefs and the efforts you go through to express them very eloquently and educating your audience.

[@lol-ih1tl]

Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia would've done the same thing if they existed today.

[@himpim642]

probably.mussloni used anti slavery argument when invading ethiopia as ethiopia had slaves.famous italian song "black face" i about black girl who is supposedly liberated by fascist italian soldier.it was popular in italy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faccetta_Nera so nothing new.

[@leonrussell9607]

South Africa is worse today than under apartheid

[@lol-ih1tl]

@@leonrussell9607 ok white supremacist

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Turning marginalized groups against each other is protecting privilege 101.

[@Shalanaya]

Yep, who wants to separate LGB from T, that should give people a clue right there. The power is in unity as a result of a sacrifice of personal beliefs for the individual difference, the more we are willing to invite destruction for the purpsoe of collective expansioon, the further away we are from actual fascism. The issue is that some people think this destruction is tyhe actual fascism, lol. Thats how oblivious they are to how power dynamics work.

[@sunflower-seeds]

As a gay . . . . Fuck no (to the intro photo)

[@flyingtiger4808]

Same boat. As a Pansexual he is literally fighting for the wrong side

[@tamiausten873]

Seriously any truly sane person will at least pretend they don't support that or just dumb the flag and say they are evil with their chest. Why the need to cover your crimes with other people's sweat 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I'm a Christian in Africa but that image is jarring. I'm struggling to believe it's real, but I'm not even sure why I'm surprised anymore

[@elenanojkovic2554]

Asexual here and same. And pretty much every queer person I know (and hold any respect for) agrees.

[@Nikki-lh1tu]

​@@elenanojkovic2554 As an ace, I secound that 🤝

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

I can safely use the phrase, "Not in my name."

[@Lilith2718]

I find it ironic that Sam Harris talks about women's rights and freedom of speech, as if the US isn't a massively reactionary on all those issues and trying to limit those rights in the first place and already have been doing so for years by this point.

[@tjenadonn6158]

"It's okay when my team does it" is the sum total of liberal ethics.

[@homelander7742]

Nice whataboutism.

[@Lilith2718]

@@homelander7742 I do love when people resort to the fallacy fallacy. Truly the most intellectual thing (/s), one can do by just using the name of said fallacy and nothing more.

[@himpim642]

why talk about that as progressive and reactionary lines.diffrent coutnries have their norms about freedom of speech and women rights.Much of comunist st coutnruis alloweed far less open critricims of govemrnt and upheld much of traditional gender norms.iun fact many communisty parites in east nowe are what one woudl call socially conservative.that doesnt mean they are nad were reactionary.

[@himpim642]

@@tjenadonn6158 of everyone ethics not justl lib.

[@DJWESG1]

In the past id simply call it soft fascism, the sort that imposes draconion policies with a smile and a suit and tie.. however these soft fascists have hardened as each year passes. But their mrrhod is always to take our stuff, beit the words we use, the cloths we dress in, the food we eat, and they rub it all in 5hit.

[@user-gi8pk9uc7q]

Draco sentenced people to death for the slightest of infractions, like idleness!

[@klindt5776]

Capitalism itself is the main thing stopping a lot of liberal minded people from seeing the bigger picture, if you view foreign lands as merely a vacation resort that you want to go and experience and go to the beaches and have parties and go to pride parades you will view this conflict in terms of how progressive and great Israel is for having gay bars and pride parades in Tel Aviv, vs the Palestinians with their poorer infrastructure and no beach resorts, a western liberal can’t see themselves vacationing in Palestine, so they are fine if it gets bulldozed and Israel builds beachfront hotels in the ruins of Gaza they can then vacation in

[@Dave102693]

This

[@V1sdasd]

It's not about vacation, it's about freedom and safety. Why would you support countries run by intolerant ideologies that don't want you to exist? those countries would unalive you if they found out you're pro-LGBT, pro-feminism, or anything leftist.

[@rickybobby5153]

Palestinians turned down a $50 billion dollar economic aid package in 2020

[@uhura647]

What did Palestinians do with all the aid they received from world community ?

[@rickybobby5153]

@@uhura647 tunnels and rockets

[@caiuscosades6423]

If it was the 1940s. Some of these people would be like. "We need more diversity and inclusion in the waffen SS ." "An all female einsatzgruppen, Dirlewanger Brigade will smash the patriarchy."

[@PedanticUnionist]

They literally did that. The Waffen-SS was pitched as a liberation organisation for peoples repressed by the British, Soviets, and french. There were African, Indian, Cossack, and Arab SS divisions.

[@9000ck]

that is an insane photograph. the right to live is the most important right.

[@richardarriaga6271]

And the fuel feeding the Gazan maternity wards was just cut off when the Rafah border crossing was taken.

[@Ppppftt]

Kavernacle is trying to convert the right wingers with this title😂

[@lol-ih1tl]

Fascism has gone woke

[@himpim642]

@@lol-ih1tl USSR for reewaon accusedd nazis and imperilistrs as beign gay.as was notion ythat onyl degenerate capitalists and worker aristocracy or weak lumpenproleteriat can become gay.

[@Ivan-bw6iw]

​@@lol-ih1tlFascism has hijacked wokeness.

[@Jaco059]

You guys can’t convert anything by calling everyone fascist

[@quitti]

Earlier this week, Justin 21:46 Trudeau came out saying zionism isnt a bad word . There are also politicians in canada auctioning off Palestinian real estate Not to mention that the RCMP gets trained by the IOF

[@dliap98]

that was truly unhinged. "anyone should be able to say they're a zionist" is a crazy statement for him to make. I hate him and his liberal party so much

[@leonrussell9607]

Why are Jews not allowed their own state but Muslims can have dozens?

[@nimrodery]

Pierrie Poillievre said 80 years after the Holocaust, Canadians are seeing 'the same ugly totalitarian ideologies' playing themselves out on campuses and in attacks on synagogues. Just a reminder they're the same politician just in two different parties.

[@nimrodery]

@@leonrussell9607 Who said Jews aren't allowed their own state? It should probably be in Europe or America though as it was Christian hatred of Jews that helped the also Christian Nazis do the holocaust, and it would maybe alleviate some of the guilt American Christians (should) feel about extermination policies in America. Gaza wasn't helping the Nazis, and Christians and Jews were welcome in the region before 1948. [edit: added a comma for clarity]

[@leonrussell9607]

@@nimrodery muslims love the nazis

[@DeadMarine1980]

My Brother was a veteran in Afghanistan. I was a Veteran in Iraq. After the news broke that we were pulling out a talking head was screaming about "this will set back women's rights!" My brother put down his beer..."hummm how many more dead soldiers do we need to preserve 'womens rights'?"

[@corner16]

For the political establishment "womens rights" is just an idealistic concept, with no definitions. If you have not yet read Dalton Trumbo's book Johnny got his gun, I truly recommend it! There is a great monologue abt the reasons why the US soldiers joined WWI. One of the reasons listed being "protecting the women from those rapey German soldiers". The book is an outstanding peace of literature, and is still a topical view on war!

[@ausername8699]

To be fair, the Taliban has banned women from going out in public without male relatives, getting an education, and stringent dress code. So yeah, probably not a good example.

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

​@@ausername8699 and in the US, christian fundamentalists have rolled back women's bodily autonomy and working to roll back more rights but no one's saying we have to invade Alabama

[@triloization]

@@jeffersonclippership2588 mmh maybe you should, just a thought 🤔

[@ausername8699]

@jeffersonclippership2588 Because Alabama is an American state. Demographic and economic realities, combined with a much better infrastructure for information about abortion, which means that people are more likely to overturn the state's mandate. There's also a fundamental difference between how the Islamic world developed, compared to how the Christian/Western European world developed. Christianity has nowhere near the financial or political influence as Islam has on the population it holds its grip over. The very nature of Islamic doctrine and dogma makes it extremely difficult for any sort of tradition of cynicism or anti-religious movement to take foot.

[@PatDavis1989]

"Every single empire in its official discourse has said that it is not like all the others, that its circumstances are special, that it has a mission to enlighten, civilize, bring order and democracy, and that it uses force only as a last resort. And, sadder still, there always is a chorus of willing intellectuals to say calming words about benign or altruistic empires, as if one shouldn't trust the evidence of one's eyes watching the destruction and the misery and death brought by the latest mission civilizatrice." - Edward Said

[@paulanderson2963]

"I sent these babies to heaven in the name of love." Nothing says humanitarian like a soldier holding a multicolored flag atop rubble which probably contains scores of innocent men women and children that he or his companions helped relieve of their lives. Even if in reality this particular gentleman holding the flag didn't fire a single shot or was not even present when all of this occurred there is no mistaking the glee he has on his face as he is holding the flag. Let me know you're a monster without uttering a word. This is definitely one of those moments where if I was someone who identified with that flag I would be screaming "He does not represent me!"

[@TekTr0niK]

As a member of the community who created the terminology "woke", honestly you're also a part of the problem. You use the word woke in a sentence the same way tea party conservatives do. You can't just take shit, completely misuse it, and then be like "Sorry, words take on new meanings. Also, other people say it this way." That's precisely what conservatives have done and continue to do. I thought you were supposed to be better and more intentional with your words.

[@slug3982]

Bro that hasn't been used correctly in like a decade. Just move on, unless you think the biggest problem right now isnt a genocide and instead the meaning of a fucking word.

[@Himmiefan]

Yeah, they've distorted the word "woke" and now, anyone who shrieks "woke" just seems, well, dumb.

[@beardoodle9835]

Yeah. I don't think he actually meant any harm, but it's still harmful. He should have used the term "liberal fascism" instead of "woke".

[@Dave102693]

@@beardoodle9835agreed

[@Dave102693]

@@beardoodle9835or pinkwashing

[@thefirstone4864]

Rainbow fascism fits a better.

[@wasserperson]

"Homonationalism" has been used in academic/theory for awhile now. I have mixed thoughts on that term, but I do think it's better than trying to get any constructive use out of the pejorative, reactionary coopting of "woke"

[@connorrussell2084]

endgoal of liberalism

[@Denymymadness]

liberalism final boss lol

[@w0t_m818]

Sam Harris has always been the "I say abhorrent stuff calmly to try and slip it past your critical thinking" guy, and it sucks but it unfortunately works on so many people.

[@capricornkid4681]

I love being part of the queers for Palestine movement 💖🇵🇸 my sign got ruined by unexpected rain but the spirit is still there 💖💖

[@chris135x]

The irony being Palestinian's are against your LGBLT nonsense.

[@LUCYDebDolly]

​@@chris135xlike you are, you mean

[@chrisbfreelance]

Why can't you just be for Palestine, why do you have to be Queers for Palestine?

[@chris135x]

@@LUCYDebDolly What?

[@LUCYDebDolly]

@@chris135x you yourself are anti LGBTIQ+. Otherwise you wouldn't have written it the way you did.

[@DustinLaGriza]

Defining antiSemitism as "The definition also includes denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination and claiming that Israel's existence is a racist endeavor" -- Is this a Special Right only for Jewish people or does it apply equally for all minorities? In such case, is denying the Kurdish people their right to self-determination also discriminatory? What about Lakota Sioux? What if the English wanted to reclaim their "ancestral homeland" in northern Germany, do we have to allow that or else risk being called anti-English?

[@rinatennouji5988]

"is denying the Kurdish people their right to self-determination also discriminatory?" uhm, yes it is, actually.

[@DustinLaGriza]

@@rinatennouji5988 Yeah, it's kind of my point--that definition of antiSemitism enshrines Special Rights. No public institution is in danger of having funding pulled because they don't back an independent Kurdistan, but they would if they even questioned Israel's existence as an apartheid ethno-state

[@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286]

And how will you save the Kurds wean no nation that as Kurds in it does not want to give the land up

[@DustinLaGriza]

@@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 I dunno. All we know is that you either have to support everybody's right to self-determiniation or Israel has a Special Right to self-determination that doesn't apply universally to other ethnic groups

[@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286]

@@DustinLaGriza and how are you gonna inforce that?

[@juliaboskamp9666]

As a queer person i rather want them to stop the genneside of the Palestinians people that having a rainbow flag. Actions speek louder then words

[@cyberhermit1222]

Referring to communists as 'Fascists' is dumb and lazy. Who burned all the books at the Magnus Herschfeld institute?

[@kogorun]

Hah, yeah, let's gloss over stalinism, maoism, khmer rouge and whatever else red fascists cropped up. The party wouldn't be pleased with such a display of lacking political consciousness, after all.

[@himpim642]

funnily i saw commnsit arguing that nazi burned not books but files whcih showed they are all gay.also that communsit woudl burn books as well if they knew what was written in them.

[@PedanticUnionist]

>Referring to communists as 'Fascists' is dumb and lazy. What? >Who burned all the books at the Magnus Herschfeld institute? Fascists did

[@Jaco059]

@@PedanticUnionistwell when you call everything fascist including liberals you see why everyone refuses to take you seriously

[@PedanticUnionist]

@@Jaco059 the thing is that Kavernackle never called any communists fascists.

[@vijayanchomatil8413]

You can't write the word Zionazi on X, so i changed it to Zionnazi. How stupid is that?

[@alex_roivas333]

what about nazionist? 😏

[@GeteMachine]

You can be a Nazi on X, but can't allude to Zionists being fascists. Interesting.

[@lithunoisan]

@@alex_roivas333Considering that Nazi likely originated from National (Pronounced like nazi onal), that is just way too boring and absolutely uncreative.

[@lolasdm6959]

@@lithunoisan nope Nazi is a Austrian slang meaning simple minded

[@robbaldwin2402]

When people say "intersectionalism is cancer" (it ought to be intersectionality, for a start), they clearly haven't paid attention to moments like this, where those who are marginalised don't hesitate to commit atrocities against other marginalised groups.

[@Jaco059]

It is cancer for people with little knowledge on history.

[@joeavreg2254]

*Assists in genocide* "Now they have to accept me!" - Every Pick-Me It's kind of mindblowing watching people use the Star of David as a shield for the Swastika.

[@Drownedinblood]

The meme of a b29 dropping bombs while painted in a rainbow flag was supposed to be a joke...

[@Planag7]

Oh you mean liberalism lol

[@TheLetsRead]

u right

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

EWWW!!! LIBERALISM!!!! (as in the socio-economic ideology not as in tolerating marginalised groups)

[@vansdan.]

Im watching this after just watching Owen Jones' vid on CNN's expose on Sde Teiman and.... I... I just am speechless. This is so far gone, I don't even know where we go from here my shattered heart is being stomped on

[@englishlit0171]

His smile also show the degree of delusion

[@jarrod7465]

The biggest irony behind telling "queers for Palestine" people to go to Gaza is that many trans and lgbt people have literally done that and were welcomed with open arms by Palestinians. I have many muslim friends and they know I'm a bisexual man, they do not treat me any differently from a straight person. The Muslims i know have a live and let live atitude.

[@ivanholmes1863]

A note: what is being described is a temporary alignment. The moment fascist realize its safe/ gained enough political power, they will turn on the group they used as a wedge.

[@dliap98]

exactly. like how they use gay people and women to push their transphobic idealogy. they don't actually give a shit about either of those groups and will absolutely turn around and start taking away their rights too when given the chance. this is what i always say to transphobes who are gay: who do you think they're gonna come for next? do you really think you're gonna be safe from them? it's never genuine and it's absolutely temporary like you said

[@sur_un_nuage]

it baffles me that they try to criticize “muslim countries” for not being pro lgbtq but like you mean the same muslim countries that you have relations with like egypt and jordan and even saudi arabia that israel is trying to have normalized relations with ??? like ???? like you clearly don’t have an issue with them despite being “regressive” and i’m just confused about what they’re fighting for

[@sammyvictors2603]

and that's a sweeping generalization of Muslims. I've read of some Muslims who are queer themselves or even support the LGBTQ community. No group of people are a monolith.

[@mariomario-ih6mn]

I agree with you on Saudi Arabia but the Egyptian government is less fundamentalist than it’s population. And the opposition to el sisi is the Muslim brotherhood (which is supported by around 50% of Egyptian s).

[@sur_un_nuage]

@@mariomario-ih6mn yeah no doubt that egypt isn't like saudi arabia i was just naming countries that have relations with israel that aren't all that lgbtq friendly but like i see a lot of hatred in countries that are supposed to be more open which leads me to be even more confused about what western values are supposed be

[@bagelprince3]

ive had some people ask me why i support Palestine when i'm trans and bi. I always answer back that it doesnt matter what the people would think of me or do, if i see injustice, i speak up.

[@seto749]

About the only fair comment on the page.

[@mikicerise6250]

Perhaps it's because you don't give a damn about actual trans and bi people in the Middle East, you're more concerned with acceptance in your Western social cliques.

[@anniestumpy9918]

The question would be, why do you support Palestine out of all the dozens of human right violations happening around the world? Why not the Uighurs in China e.g.?

[@SubSalicylate]

⁠@@anniestumpy9918 how do you know they don’t support Uyghurs? (Or the Congolese, Sudanese, Armenians etc)

[@Jaco059]

@@SubSalicylatebecause it then just sounds like a virtue signal

[@LocoGeorge123]

Brilliant video Kav

[@santosd6065]

I mentioned woke fascism on the comments of this channels and was accused of being a right wing conspiracy theorist

[@markburns2621]

Yeah, you can't mention the channel's agenda and expect to not get the swarm of guardians.

[@santosd6065]

@@markburns2621 The problem with these woke liberals is that they actually think they are on the left... as they denounce anyone with an actual leftist approach of being "class reductionist"

[@santosd6065]

@@Ivan-bw6iw Wokeness is the replacement of working class anti-capitalism/anti-imperialism with identity politics. If you are a woke identitarian, you are necessarily on the Neo-liberal/Neo-con end of the spectrum.

[@wasserperson]

​@@santosd6065The pejorative uses of "woke" that you're cosigning and amplifying come from reactionary propagandists spread by hate forums. It's anti-solidarity language that is meant to provoke, divide, and to sell the core right wing/Capitalist claim that all justice + cooperative movements are fake, that they are all grifts concealing the same greedy individualism, and it's the CEOs and hedge fund managers who are truly honest and virtuous. Now, seeing you buy into the "trans ideology" scapegoating too, I don't have high hopes for you being open to hearing this. But I'll be glad to be proven wrong!

[@novuspatriarch]

No you misused neoliberal and ultra reactionary. Don't lie. You didn't know what you were talking about. Had nothing to do with you mentioning anything. 😒

[@Peter]

Everyone attacked me for saying this 4 years ago. I wrote a book, Woke Ouroboros. It is about this. It's nice to see people seeing it, I have felt like I have been taking crazy pills.

[@tonedowne]

Thank you! I saw the insanity of this from when that guy draped a pride flag over his tank. I remember arguing with a conservative about gays for Palestine, and pointed out that he was supporting something he fights against in his own country.

[@FergusGrant]

It's so frustrating when you carefully craft what you think is a perceptive comment on one aspect of this excellent video and, despite avoiding potentially contentious words, it just vanishes. Apparently, it never existed. I guess this is just another tiny fragment of woke fascism in action. It feels like I'm in a AI censorship lottery.

[@ericktellez7632]

Round about way to explain liberals and liberalism.

[@pawebielinski4903]

Every time I hear Israeli apologists decrying how bad Palestine is for queers, I always wonder well if Israel is such an ally then what has it done for queers in Palestine, given their complete control in the occupied territories. And I'm never impressed.

[@ManBearBullShark]

there are no queers in palestine, because they move to israel.

[@samhall7385]

Yall keep pulling my weight. I want to fight the good fight but im so hopeless, so blackpilled, that i cant do anything useful. I dont see things getting better

[@richardarriaga6271]

The IDF was once in Lebanon. It had to leave despite being a better equipped military.

[@intricatic]

10 years ago; right wingers were calling wokeism fascism. Today: left wingers are calling wokeism fascism and right wingers are supporting wokeism.

[@himpim642]

nope.much of right wingers escpailly thsoe far right dotn support either jews or israel .RIght wing conpriacy meme is ZIONIST OCCUPATIONAL GOVERMENT. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government_conspiracy_theory

[@chrisbfreelance]

No right wingers are supporting wokeism.

[@raven_g6667]

Banger video as always, Kav.

[@raulvidal2343]

Oh my god, they wokewashed fascism. That's like a pineapple pizza.

[@neueroqueer3311]

Pinkwash

[@darchronos]

Finally someone mentioned how Muslims have been RACIALIZED. Someone should help Cenk from TYT express this. Words do change much like the word computer is NOT used to mean someone who computes like it was used to mean in the ~1950s/60s.

[@SeasideDetective2]

I've never heard ANYONE in my lifetime say that Arabs, Muslims, or South Asians in general are subhuman. The absolute worst I've heard is that the Arabs' BEHAVIOR is savage, and that they don't care about being SEEN as subhuman. You can call that dog-whistling if you want, but the Nazis literally said that Arabs were "half-monkeys," which I have never personally heard anyone say.

[@Jasper-ML]

Great video

[@MasontheMarxistDog]

Fascism will come today in Liberalism

[@daydreamer-ix2bo]

"Gays are more valuable than Muslims!!!" So the saying goes? Really

[@dliap98]

and they act as if there aren't gay Muslims too🤦‍♀️

[@himpim642]

@@dliap98 much less.and those are usaully libs.Maxim gorky ion ce said destroy gays and faqscims will vanish and this was overhelminglyu accepted notion in communist east europe.

[@jerm-gv9rv]

More so that “gays can be white/jewish” Therefore easier to rope into your fight for racism if you tell them that “ brown people hate you more than we do”

[@leonrussell9607]

Thats true, Muslims are horrible

[@Jaco059]

@@dliap98not many

[@PessimistPirate]

The offensive, inoffensive duality.

[@basildon5263]

Not so long ago the rights criticism was "political correctness gone made".

[@mtfgang6012]

Thank you for the heads-up on fascism.

[@arvidsky]

I agree with pretty much every single point made in this video, but I do have one issue with it. Why is it that everything has to be "Fascism"? Why is it that every aspect of authoritarianism, populism, racism, xenophobia, or a mix of them all, has to be Fascism? I know it is pointed out that Fascism today will be "different", but if it is simply just very similar to aspects of authoritarianism and xenophobia witnessed before why do we have to call it Fascism? It is a genuine question - why does this separate itself from those other terms? Looking at the most prolific Fascist movements of the interwar period, what was defining for most of them is that he had comprehensive ideologies and at least proclaimed to have ideas for massive societal change, including youth movements, fleshed out ideologies and big changes to the socio.economic system. Not simply someone who is xenophobic, conservative and/or wants to protect capitalism. So, why, if modern movements are so different from previous movements, should we call them by the same name?

[@abubaytnighan6480]

It’s not everything, and we use this word in this case because it is appropriate

[@rickybobby5153]

@@abubaytnighan6480except it isn’t. Because liberalism is left wing and fascism is right wing. You all sound as stupid and brain washed as MAGA

[@alex_roivas333]

@@rickybobby5153 there is no left wing movement to speak of in israel. its funny too, because the first zionists were actually quite socialist. do you know why? because israel is right wing. there's right wing parties, far right parties, and far far right parties. nothing remotely left wing.

[@alex_roivas333]

i dont think fascism *needs* to protect capital, but that's what it ends up doing anyway. and it doesnt matter what their "fleshed out" economic policies were. just like in practice, "libertarian" free market economics end up in the same social conservative economic policies, likewise fascism just ends up helping capital. "So, why, if modern movements are so different from previous movements, should we call them by the same name?" i dont think they're THAT different. obviously israeli fascism is gonna have an israeli flag, root their ultra nationalism in israeli history, and not fly a nazi flag and root it in german history 🙄

[@arvidsky]

​@@alex_roivas333 I understand your points and I am inclined to agree, but not entirely. I have studied interwar Fascism quite a bit and tend to use that as a basis to understand, and thus label, Fascism. Also, the interwar Fascist movements tended to vary widely, with a lot of ongoing discussion of what actually qualified as Fascism - and what kind of Fascism it would then be. (Salazar's Portugal, for example, is generally not considered to be a Fascist state by experts in the field despite him often being labeled as a Fascist) I had not thought about Israel here, but have looked at Trumpism and Putin's regime in this light, examining to what extent they can be classified as Fascism (according to the definition(s) we get from the Interwar movements). And there are some very big differences between them. I guess The Identitarian Movement is something that more mimics old-school Fascism, with the exception of having a more "liberal" economic political outlook. And for the point of "economic ideology not matching de facto economics = ideology doesn't matter", would you then draw distinct parallels between state socialist/communist regimes, whose policies ended up benefitting the elite with authoritarian non-socialist states, whose systems ended up being quite similar? Say Stalin's USSR and Nguema's Equatorial Guinea? Despite some similarities, I think that it is important to also look at the distinctions and that is why it may make sense to still treat these ideological leanings as separate. For example, Neo-Conservatist Economics vis-a-vis Fascist oligarchal capitalism. They may be quite similar in how they function, but the ideas behind the systems and the ways they impact society can be distinct. I am simplifying things here to keep it short and I may be using some terms incorrectly.

[@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435]

I know you've addressed it in the video but I'd like to weigh in on the clarification: I'm not personally inclined to the usage of the term "woke" as a denotation here due to the prevalence of its appropriation and cooptation by certain elements of reactionaries out there, who masquerade their own agenda by blending inside the contemporary left-wing anti-imperialist cause right now. Everyone here could just call it fascism, or the so-called "rainbow imperialism" for that matter because the term woke will always evoke leftist connotation no matter what, as it originally denoted the Black people's sentiment against slavery, racial injustice and White supremacy in the past. To coopt the language and the aesthetic of left-wing politics e.g. progressivism, socialism and communism has always been the fundamental characteristic of fascism in the first place. That's why Benito Mussolini, initially a self-proclaimed Marxist who started out as a cadre of the then-Italian Socialist Party, was able to rise into power by promoting fascism as a syncretism between highly filtered socialist/syndicalist principles and crude ultranationalism. For that same reason as well, the Nazi Germany was initially giving platform for the non-Aryan and queer outcasts inside several provisional government positions as a form of token representation. Ultimately, it was all nothing but a mere performance with one of the purposes as a political deception against the USSR, especially on the Nazi Germany part.

[@wasserperson]

There's plenty of ways to name/describe the things he's describing without using "woke" at all. Pseudo-progressive, transactional tokenizing, "homonationalism" ( I have concerns of my own with that term but it's been used in some very strong work on this exact topic, since the early 00s at least )

[@connie419]

ALRIGHT! ANOTHER VIDEO BY THE KAVERNACKLE!

[@damianpinnington5477]

Gays for Trump is fine but Queers for Palestine isn't.

[@magnesium_subsoil_94]

That photo is going to be in history books some day. It is absolutely iconic in its white supremacist fascism

[@nervousbreakdown711]

Stuff like this is why I oppose hate speech laws. You never know when some absolute monster will suddenly change the definition of what hate speech is

[@rickybobby5153]

You’re aware that hate speech laws are VERY clearly defined and are based on human rights legislation right? It can’t just be what ever someone wants it to be

[@Dave102693]

@@rickybobby5153right now Germany are misusing anti hate speech laws to go after anti zionists

[@nervousbreakdown711]

@@rickybobby5153 how’s that working out for you?

[@rickybobby5153]

@@nervousbreakdown711 Quite well. Intolerance cannot be tolerated

[@Coconut-219]

You don't have to predict that, because it already happened pretty much instantaneously upon it's initial inception.

[@Azda-emina]

Really interesting video and really resonates with me. Thank you

[@e11esounds]

You’re awesome. So glad I found your channel. Solidarity ❤️‍🔥

[@TheKavernacle]

Thank you! :D

[@berberbro]

A few years back was that photo of an all gay/lgbtq USA helicopter crew in Afghanistan. That was the precursor of this I think.

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

That beyond cringe LatinaX CIA vid some years back too .

[@0ptimuscrime]

How can Sam Harris whine about muslims for a decade and still know nothing?

[@Miki-fl9ez]

Because he's a mega racist

[@TheDeadjam421]

The cigar store Indian episode of Seinfeld, Jerry doesn’t understand he’s being offensive to Native Americans. He still doesn’t get it

[@KouroshFarrokhzad]

Excellent analysis. Thank you for your comprehensive and complex insight on modern-day expressions of fascist xenophobia.

[@marcello7781]

Starship Troopers turned into reality

[@oldreaddy3341]

Rainbow fascism

[@aprilliamonroe9197]

I am very pleased to have stumbled across your channel ❤

[@maxtracker2904]

Maybe he is just a massive fan of the song? “In the name of love” is a banger.

[@foodandmurder8420]

As a white British revert Muslim who spent years studying Islam before becoming muslim. I am so tired of people attacking Muslims. I was raised by my mother to never judge people based on their gender, race, religion and sexual preference but their character and personality, their actions and not their words. So it irritates me that people whether they be atheist, Christian, Jewish etc be so hateful towards a religion they willingly choose not to understand. I personally only follow the Quran and not the Hadiths bc I find them questionable and contradictory of the Quran itself even though some Muslims will reject me for stating this and that okay. I fully believe there is a God, a creator and there is a purpose for the life, I believe we will be judged by God for our actions. And what makes me a Muslim and not a Christian or Jewish person is I believe Muhammad pbuh is the final messenger. That’s why I’m Muslim that is what I believe. I don’t ever force my beliefs on others, I don’t think less of anyone for not being Muslim. I’m very much an each to their own person. I respect everyone’s free will, I enjoy people for their hearts and souls, I have Christian, Jewish, atheist and even gay friends and gay family members because they are good compassionate people who always go out of their way to make me feel comfortable and are very respectful and even protective of my religion. They are very considerate and I’m respectful of the way they choose to live their lives. It just hurts that some conservatives always use Islam to spread fear and hatred and they always spread false and misleading information about us. Like I said I’m very much for free will that’s how God made us, to choose our own paths whether good or bad, right or wrong. I would never force my beliefs on someone or make them feel inferior for their choices, I’m just sooooo tired of being painted to be this evil boogeyman everyone should be afraid of. I know there are some bad individuals that claim they are Muslims but disrespect Islam by not following its teachings in the Quran, but there’s nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world and it’s still growing. Islam has saved my life, stopped my anxiety and depression given me understanding of my purpose in this life and people actually scare me with the amount of hatred in their hearts. Women are getting harassed and attacked for wearing hijabs and it breaks my heart. Sorry for rambling it’s just the guy in the headphones wearing the hoodie talking about immigrants and Islam just irked me.

[@foodandmurder8420]

Also I absolutely love your channel and what you do. Some things I agree with, some I don’t but I think your a wonderful person who stands up for people and spreads love and not hatred. Keep being the wonderful human being you are ❤

[@ariellll-vb5nm]

Yeah, I also don't really pay attention to hadiths because they are not able to complement the quran. Everything we as muslims need to know is in the quran. But yeah, when I said this to some people, I didn't receive positive comments 😂😂.

[@rickybobby5153]

So surely you understand the difference between yourself and someone who lives in an Islamic state who isn’t afforded the freedom to interpret the Quran how they please? Those are the vast majority of Muslims in the world.

[@thenutella8846]

The hadiths genuinely became a stain on Islamic thought because verry few Muslims (along with every religion tbf) were taught to check the sources of their beliefs. The hadiths were written down by some guy in iraq collecting hearsay stories many years after the events of Islam's founding.

[@RationalistMH]

Sure, thats why 35% of Muslims in the UK (Guardian survey) support jailing up gay people and criminalizing homosexuality. And sure, there’s no correlation between the fact that ZERO muslim majority countries have even basic gay rights or women’s rights. It must be a coincidence!

[@hr-g4640]

IDF soldiers do it for woke points, same sex marriage is not possible inside Israel, if you are gay and want to get married to your partner you have to leave the country and marry outside

[@anniestumpy9918]

Yeah sure, gay Israelis going to Palestine to get married in droves 🤦

[@l0rf]

Killing in the name of... well, love apparently. The hypocrisy is painful.

[@sigeret1]

How is this woke??? Thats not what woke means😂😂😂 you guys are funny as hell😂😂😂

[@Lyrielonwind]

I want to underlying the pervasion of language, everywhere. In Europe too. Anti-zionism is not anti-Semitism. Palestinians are semitic. Thanks 🙏

[@lithunoisan]

No worries, I’ll phone all the Europeans and tell them to call you a JQ theorist instead.

[@Jaco059]

Maybe when you call everything fascism it waters down words

[@markharrison6498]

Sam Harris is the most overrated thinker that’s ever lived imo.

[@IceAxe1940]

That would be Orwell

[@markharrison6498]

@@IceAxe1940 maybe it doesn’t hold up as I last read it in middle school but I really enjoyed 1984 as a horror novel. The rat scene and the ending was horrIfic

[@himpim642]

@@IceAxe1940 orwell quyite good predicted degenrration of communsit socieites adn theri turning into new crapitlist ones if leadign elites arent held in check.him being infromant for uk is dirfrent thing and shamefull on its own accord but iu his mind he tghout if stalinists win he woudl be killed.imperil govemrnt has use for him as tool.

[@laithmughrabi8990]

Sam Harris and Bill Maher don't believe in god, but they believe that god promised them a land in the middle east.

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it's interesting to me growing up in NYC my whole life people say think that it is a leftie heaven. But alot of the time I go out and meet people here I get surprised at how right wing they can be. They'll appear tolerant or even accepting of immigrants, lgbt rights, religion and even have critiques of capitalism but enough alcohol in true colors come out. Liberalism is just open minded conservatism.

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So true. Love it