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Mengu's BW Deadguy Ale Decklist:
tcgplayer.pxf.io/m5mj07
4 Caves of Koilos
1 City of Brass
4 Dark Ritual
1 Death Grasp
2 Disenchant
3 Duress
4 Exalted Angel
3 Gerrard's Verdict
4 Hypnotic Specter
4 Nantuko Shade
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Plains
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Smother
9 Swamp
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Tainted Field
3 Vindicate
3 Wasteland
2 Circle of Protection: Red
2 Diabolic Edict
1 Disenchant
3 Engineered Plague
2 Seal of Cleansing
2 Warmth
3 Withered Wretch
Tommi's The Rock Decklist:
tcgplayer.pxf.io/4PNy11
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Phyrexian Rager
2 Yavimaya Elder
2 Deranged Hermit
1 Krosan Tusker
4 Ravenous Baloth
4 Wall of Blossoms
2 Call of The Herd
2 Smother
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Diabolic Edict
2 Cabal Therapy
3 Duress
2 Naturalize
2 Pernicious Deed
2 Recurring Nightmare
8 Forest
4 Llanowar Wastes
6 Swamp
4 Treetop Village
4 Engineered Plague
2 Naturalize
1 Pernicious Deed
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
1 Duress
1 Diabolic Edict
2 Phyrexian Furnace
2 Spike Feeder

[@niccolomartinello7610]

Great video, but I think that taking a couple of minutes in the intro to explain how the decks work would make the video more exciting.

[@karelchocholousek2336]

Came here to say the exact same thing 😃

[@AndreaMengucci]

Last veedeo feedback was that getting to action was great. 😅 I guess we can talk about it mid game1 a bit after the beginning. But I like the idea of starting with turn1 underway.

[@Pistolsatsean]

Especially since the cards are so old, and hard to read, hard to remember what each one does

[@rocktop-games]

@@AndreaMengucci IMO something in beetween would be the best. I don't need every interaction explained at the beginning, but a 30 second quick explanation of each decks "plan" is nice. Something around the lines of: "This is a midrange deck. It's goal is to disrupt the opponents first turns with removal and discard until we can deploy our big beater in the form of Exalted Angel or/and pumped Nantuko shadow" (while showing the cards that do each thing on screen, so whoever wants can pause it and read them), should be more than enough to give some context without dragging the video. Also I'll add that I don't know what's the majorities opinion on the matter, but I personally enjoy top players explaining decks, there is a lot to learn there, specially from people with your knowledge and skill (which are not that many, at least not that many making content) . If it's there, for people who don't enjoy that, they can just skip it. If it's not there, people that do enjoy it, can't watch it. Anyway, that's my two cents. keep up the good work!

[@AndreaMengucci]

@@Pistolsatsean there s decklists in descriptions for that

[@laurenceboulanger55]

I've waited 31 years for mtg content where you see the content of the player's hands, thank you

[@roberto6698]

CardMarket has been doing it for a while, it's actually the only way I get to understand what's going on in the live matches video!

[@RealTommyWiseau]

So much nostalgia. I absolutely love "older" cards. This makes me want to give premodern a try.

[@tomasvalerio6043]

You should! It's a blast!

[@ZergrushEddie]

Growing up in the 90's I remember playing with my dad's older cards. The first real deck I made was a The Rack featuring Hypnotic Specter. Turn 1 Hypnotic Specter at 7 years old was the first time I heard the term schadenfreude.

[@mccoyrj452]

Just played in a 68 person Premodern tournament in MA this last weekend. This format is freaking awesome.

[@MengusWorkshop]

How did it go?

[@mccoyrj452]

@@MengusWorkshop I went 3-3-1 with Gro-A-Tog and had an absolute blast. This area has two stores hosting weekly, monthly, and quarterly events. Always fun to swing with Dr Teeth again!

[@chuckstevens4985]

I played too and top 4ed with deadguy ale :)

[@TravisWasntAvailable]

This video makes me very happy and nostalgic. I started playing during Invasion block and Odyssey has a special place in my heart. Now I want to play pre modern too XD

[@mashedmentality]

“Ignore this effect if opponent has no cards in hand” Thanks for clearing that one up for us WOTC😂

[@MengusWorkshop]

They were very precise back in the days. Have you read the dual lands? Ahah

[@mashedmentality]

@@MengusWorkshop I have. I honestly love the transparency in the explanations of the older cards because there was no website you could go to or KZbinrs to break it down for you. It’s very cool that they wanted to make it so new players could figure out what the cards did and how they worked by just reading them but looking back on it now with a little bit of magic knowledge is just funny to me. It seems so simple now, almost like second nature, but we’ve all had to pick up a card and read it to understand it at some point so I do find the older cards to be both endearing and a tad silly haha

[@awxangel6781]

Other card games don't let you activate cards that interact with the hand if that hand is empty.

[@JustRightPinedo]

I started playing in 2002, onslaught is the block I remember most distinctly. I play a lot of modern now, idk how it didn’t occur to me the block I basically started in was the cutoff for the format. Kinda makes me want to play some pre-modern. I love the idea of a format frozen in time that will pretty much never have your deck messed up by new cards.

[@tellable9425]

Hypnotic Spectre and Nantuko Shade!? Lets gooo Mengu great old-school vibes today!!

[@Algernop_Krieger]

Premodern looks really fun! Thanks Mengu for introducing it to me! Never would have known this was a thing if not for you.

[@dansouth1973]

Perfect example of how card advantage wins games, well done!

[@ricardobarros4051]

Great matchup with lots of play to it. And the editing in these videos is just next level! Keep the premodern content coming

[@hugob0ss]

Greetings from Portugal. Thanks for bringing back some memories with Dark Ritual + Hypnotic Specter. Played some tournaments with an old school deck. Bad moon, black knight, order of ebon hand, diabolic edict, dark ritual, hypnotic specter, hymm to tourach, drain life, lake of dead, back in the late 90's. BTW, Tommi i want to see those lands making a 90 degree angle. 😂

[@alexdiotto]

I love it when there's a new premodern video! Thanks Mengu!

[@jprunsfunny]

So many decks to pick from in this format! StifleNaught, Terravore, Madness/Survival, Standstill, Elves... I love seeing 2 of the more "fair" decks facing off, but there's a lot of broken things you can do even with just old cards.

[@timkuyvenhoven5727]

Such a good idea with this channel. Was really fun watching you play all old border in paper, so much flavour. the games were good too! lots of back and forth!

[@oafkad]

The old border has always looked gorgeous to me. Even some newer cards look better in it when they do it.

[@nickraupp6104]

This match makes premodern look amazing! Definitely interested in the format now, didn't give it much of a thought before

[@user-xk5fs1zu3m]

love these pre modern videos mengu, no one else plays this format. It's so cool to see so many cards i have never seen, but mixed in with the powerhouse staples.

[@reid2826]

Love the commitment to old borders. Good stuff guys, thanks for the content

[@vocepensouquefosseorenanma1427]

I loved the idea of bring old decks/formats, i am a player since 2017-18 and is very fun seen how onde magic worked!! I think the intro could have some explanaitions about the decks and show us the decklist and sideboard tho! Plus, bring some legacy or some old Modern matchups for the next! Love from Brasil!!

[@ArtyGarciaArceo]

That was great! Can’t wait for the next Premodern video. Cheers!

[@nielsmandemakers720]

absolutely loving your channel! been watching you since the start and its a gift that keeps on giving! :)

[@TheDevlain]

Loving the channel and loving even more the premodern videos. Always nice to see this kind of gameplay videos :D

[@JayeGlow]

Finally, another Premodern video! Loving seeing the format being played on here, and looking forward to see more!

[@RealLPAde]

35:12 anyone wanna talk about the fact that Tommi used 3 forests to pay for nightmare? xD Like no shade, that stuff happens! I just find it super funny lmao

[@ruggeroricotta5133]

Grazie Andrea che supporti questo stupendo formato!!! Mazzi abbastanza economici, formato divertentissimo e decine di mazzi competitivi con cui giocare. Cosa si può volere di più??

[@two_stdev]

loving seeing more premodern content! so many wonderful match ups!

[@Skuttzor]

I love this format, please carry on with these videos :)

[@123Perillo]

Great video, pre Modern is such a cool format that we rarely see Please put the highlighted cards a little bit bigger, it's impossible to read on the phone screen

[@MengusWorkshop]

Ok we ll do it next time!

[@joshuaadams5295]

This match was a great example of card advantage wins games. Especially in a midrange or control mirror match.

[@enricodedonato8529]

When not every playable creature had to be a must kill threat. Great format, beautiful games!

[@TheNoblestMan]

Arena Zoomer here! Please play more Premodern, it's really neat to see an era of Magic that looks so foreign, yet is still the game I love! I'd personally love to see some Premodern decks matched up against some Standard decks as well, just as a comparison of Magic across eras. But I fear the Standard decks might be too strong, even with the smaller cardpool.

[@carlosorellana_1986]

Amazing and enjoyable Premodern video. Keep them coming!

[@lukepilon4440]

Love the premodern vids! Can't wait for more!

[@untamedkhaos2023]

Pre modern is interesting, never heard of it somehow until watching you. Keep the content coming! Also I would subscribe, turn on notifications and like your videos for a chance to watch you pilot pauper turbo fog!

[@MengusWorkshop]

I recorded with turbofog on mtgo on my andreamengucci channel in pauper, it ll be out next week

[@wumpmas2]

Funny that mengu should mention it, i do like premodern and want to see more of it

[@Imanji11]

Love that you do premodern videos! Please do more Mengu

[@jimdavis3527]

these decks are sick! this matchup is so cool. I agree with Tommi, the OG tokens are just so much better with all the other old cards haha

[@Meddling_Mage]

Awesome to see you play Premodern! Would love to see more Premodern decks like UW Control

[@miguelabreucoelho]

Great video, as always. Definitely do more pre-modern, please. These 2 decks are so nostalgic to me, this was the time I was playing Magic every day and absolutely loved this era. I fondly remember having a version of that BW, with Braids, Arenas, Gerrard's Verdict, Vindicate, Death Grasp, Spectral Lynx, etc.

[@FlackooPretty]

This format is so amazing!

[@mehdighaderi9780]

The Rock, what a solid deck. I used to play it at the time, finished an extended tournament with it with full score 12 points. Great veedeos, love them. P.S. Compra sti token altrimenti ti crepano anche al prossimo video!!! 😂😜

[@rilayMk]

Awesome video Mengu! keep them coming, hope I see some psychatog or UG madness!

[@O-S-B]

First video I've seen from that page, know you for a long time from Legacy... this is very cool, thanks !

[@MengusWorkshop]

Glad you discover this! Hope you’ll enjoy the rest too!

[@Heavy_Play]

Great decks to pit against each other! Love the Premodern content and keep it coming!

[@jeremiahattento]

Not gonna lie, I think the way some Premodern matches play out remind me of Pauper. :) Keep up the Premodern content coming. :)

[@philzura9612]

Finished watching! This was such a great piece of content! For the next Decks i would really like the Angel Stompy List from the Channel Moxforge vs. Surival Welder.

[@MengusWorkshop]

Thanks!

[@limozeen]

Thank you for playing my favorite format ❤ You should try a combo deck like aluren or greater good next!

[@ethansmith9078]

Definitely getting my professor back into magic with premodern. Good veeedo Mengu

[@stevenwinters4480]

Excellent content, keep it up!

[@philzura9612]

Great Video from the best Format. But i have to admit, that inreally like the Left and Right Setup more than the Top Bottom for showing the Game.

[@sebastianspurk382]

Keep the Premodern content going!

[@ElykEcralc]

Very cool! Might have to check out some more pre modern

[@rafaelrives2986]

I love premodern. Thanks for video.

[@SurfRawFiles]

Thta was really fun to watch!

[@kodyjordan6126]

Menge calling Swords Plow is wild 😂😂😂. Great video as always 😊

[@pinobluevogel6458]

Great banter, sweet decks and easy to follow what you guys are doing in terms of decisionmaking and strategy. This is a really well produced video and coincidently, it made me very interested in the pre-modern format. So far the decks that I've seen are far more combo / control oriented, which is a bit out of balance if you ask me. There are basically only monored goblins / burn as aggressive options, but the format might evolve a bit, so I still have hope. The best part about it, is that it involves only non-rotating cards and has a very understandable banlist. That means buying into it might be expensive, but the cards will never rotate and more or less keep their value or increase. Please consider featuring a little more of this interesting format, it fits really well with the vibe you guys have and your love for older cards.

[@tyler2906]

Tommi is right, this format is amazing. Up there with pauper. Great stuff!

[@Itsveryover]

Double Nantuko Shade was SCARY ❤

[@nimenpalac454]

Love this channel !!

[@dangerdean9066]

When I bought the Duel Decks: Zendikar vs Eldrazi a few years ago, I'm sure the tokens had the Magic background

[@necrow4155]

I like Premodern, I know I like it, because Mengu says I like it. :)

[@albertodelvillar7900]

I really love these veedeos, keep them coming.

[@jacklebowsky9019]

Premodern is the best format at moment. Grazie Mengu ottimo video

[@waves-]

cool video, looking forward to the pro tour final rematch!

[@MengusWorkshop]

Its the next one!

[@J.A-88]

yes, more premodern for the people!!!

[@dreadfl]

Yes! More Premodern! It's been on my mind lately since Lobstercon registration opens this Sunday. I think I'll play Burn or Terravore Oath : )

[@XTimTheEnchanterX]

Fun video guys, thanks for the content. I agree with some of the other comments that quick deck breakdowns at the start would be nice

[@MengusWorkshop]

I ve got feedback of people loving the getting straight into action in the old one

[@XTimTheEnchanterX]

@@MengusWorkshop Fair enough, I'll keep watching either way.

[@MrCrazycarlwinter]

Love the Premodern content!

[@bluexco]

You are perfecting your lighting! Now you just need to fix the echo in the audio and you will be the KZbin MTG King we all know you are!

[@dangerdean9066]

Great games also that Pernicious Deed was brutal

[@giorgiodalmasso9288]

Old and slow magic, the best imho. Great video Andrea! 😊

[@MrArt19]

Great content as always! Thx mengu. As a feedback, please increase the dimebsion of zoommed cards

[@MengusWorkshop]

We will

[@compulord155]

At 35:30 why does the Braids trigger go on the stack before the Arena trigger? It's Mengu's upkeep, both triggers are "at the beginning of your upkeep", and Tommi owns Braids, so wouldn't the Arena trigger go on first then the Braids trigger?

[@Matti_Mattsen]

Another premodern video, another good day! Love the content

[@Giordie_]

Not gonna lie, never played this format, but seems pretty fun. You can customize your deck with very old & cool cards but it's relatively cheap if you want. Plus the mechanics are really nostalgic

[@ianm2757]

More like this please!

[@micheleb.00]

Next one Sligh Vs Landstill ❤

[@Deerd]

Love this content ❤

[@vfc_gucci_panda]

Let’s go ! It’s here

[@colemancoli8468]

Bellissimo video. Personalmente in premodern mi piace tanto giocare Madnes

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Thanks for having the original tokens, Tommy!

[@RedPandaStan]

premodern is so interesting to me, simultaneously both one of the cheapest and most expensive formats

[@super324]

Because its a non-sanctioned format gold cards and proxies can be acceptable in a bunch of play groups.

[@bak2grave4u]

fun stuff, can't wait for more legacy videos

[@simonemenna1202]

Great video! Why only 2 maindeck deeds in the rock decklist?

[@Flum666]

swamp dark ritual funeral charm hymn to tourach

[@TehKorwinMikke]

More card draw makes the game better indeed. A clue token each turn would be a great thing.

[@MaximilianoEmanuel.]

Love the premodern content really much ! Old frame cards being played in 2024 what else you can demand in this world ?

[@peanutscontainedmay]

premodern looks like fun! this looks like a really good power level for a constructed format

[@8Smoker8]

Pre-modern uber alles! It's not close! Old frame the best :D

[@ChaosArchmage]

I love Premodern so much! I wish there were more opportunities to play it myself

[@omnivision616]

Best format in mtg with the best content creator. Great way to get over hump day.

[@kheliaal]

11:47 Hey Andrea and Tommaso, good content! I wanted to pitch something of a technical suggestion: if you haven’t already, in the side shot, would you consider framing the players in a way that shows their hands and maybe a bit of the field? On a side note, have you, by chance, experimented with a side view that gets both players and the table in the frame? Keep having fun, Cheers

[@MengusWorkshop]

Thanks

[@VampiricTutor]

Nice content!! More premodern please! Try an Aluren deck!

[@AirBEARist]

I definitely want to see some more pre modern!!!

[@nehebtheunwhorthy3313]

Thanks for another interesting video. Are all the decks we see in the channel Andrea's, or does Tommi also bring his personal decks?

[@MengusWorkshop]

Tommi has a really nice collection too! This bg rock deck was his for example

[@jackcarsen6247]

the gong sound in the background was spooky.

[@LunaticOtaku]

YES. Premodern content!

[@BigHit9922]

very cool