"The Roger Pirates Are FRAUDS"

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B.D.A. Law

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@bdalaw
@bdalaw 4 ай бұрын
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@michealwilliams6942
@michealwilliams6942 4 ай бұрын
You make great content, but I hate your microphone.
@bdalaw
@bdalaw 4 ай бұрын
@@michealwilliams6942 whats wrong with it?
@sharkking4
@sharkking4 4 ай бұрын
Dawg unban me so I can send you super chats lmao
@animoments8969
@animoments8969 4 ай бұрын
Aint no they gave him a free bed.
@thefootballguy6562
@thefootballguy6562 4 ай бұрын
@@animoments8969you’d be surprised lol I get free supplements every month for the supplement company I work with 🤷‍♂️
@KurseDHero
@KurseDHero 4 ай бұрын
The real reason why Roger laughed, “Not my problem” 😂
@RachelSavage-wp1qw
@RachelSavage-wp1qw 4 ай бұрын
Lmaoo
@kaz4442
@kaz4442 4 ай бұрын
Ultimate villain 😂
@RaffyDGoat
@RaffyDGoat 4 ай бұрын
People trolling the Roger pirates for something we’ve known for over a decade is too funny
@gabrielcarter16
@gabrielcarter16 4 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. We already know that they knew the true history so it shouldn’t be a surprise. I’ll say the only big surprise is the fact that vegapunk is telling that to the whole world.
@axedrel211
@axedrel211 4 ай бұрын
We knew the world sunk 200m and will sink even more?? In which chapter dating atleast 10 years back was this mentioned? People are upset that the Roger Pirates didnt warn the world. Which is fair. Even though there are pobably reasons. But your comment is absolutely false.
@naruto123407
@naruto123407 4 ай бұрын
​@@axedrel211 Bro. Now you KNOW that's not what they are saying. How did you misinterpret this??
@naruto123407
@naruto123407 4 ай бұрын
​@@axedrel211He's saying we knew that the Rodger parents had this knowledge. Not that we know the history that Rodger knows. "THINK, MARK, THINK!!"
@naruto123407
@naruto123407 4 ай бұрын
@axedrel211 Yeah. And THAT something was that Roger had this knowledge of what was going on. We knew he knew the history. WE as viewers just didn't know WHAT he knew. Just that he did. What you're not getting is what the OP is saying, and you're basically arguing with yourself over nothing. He's not saying what you think he's saying. Even the first commenter understood the assignment. 🤣🤣 You not knowing what he meant and still going off, my good sir, is crazy. Good day to you.
@jornaspierre5615
@jornaspierre5615 4 ай бұрын
Rayleigh literally said they were too early lol.
@ThanosMahomes
@ThanosMahomes 4 ай бұрын
I can definitely see Luffy defending the iron giant, but then realizing that Vegapunk is about to spoil his adventure so he breaks the snail himself
@nicholasalexander9866
@nicholasalexander9866 4 ай бұрын
I honestly would enjoy that. It would be in character for Luffy. In the manga, anime and movies have said time and time again that he doesn’t want to be spoiled for his adventure. He wants to find out his own way. That will make him free, something he wants.
@mattisawsome9295
@mattisawsome9295 4 ай бұрын
best comment
@hardboil4033
@hardboil4033 4 ай бұрын
Is Luffy actually listening?. Maybe I read it wrong, but he seems busy dealing with the elders.
@raven717
@raven717 4 ай бұрын
One piece fans and misinterpretations go hand in hand. 🤝
@RaffyDGoat
@RaffyDGoat 4 ай бұрын
Anime fans in general don’t have the best reading comprehension.
@wearemusichq1417
@wearemusichq1417 4 ай бұрын
Saying it like that includes you as well
@yaJA._.
@yaJA._. 4 ай бұрын
@@RaffyDGoatwe don’t read we just like well drawn pictures
@KidBlazeMedia
@KidBlazeMedia 4 ай бұрын
A good picture is worth a thousand words 🤷🏽‍♂️ so I see where all of y’all are coming from. If the drawings are good enough depictions, the message will be conveyed. But then again, if 100 people look at a red apple, 1/99 will say it’s green.
@yaJA._.
@yaJA._. 4 ай бұрын
@@KidBlazeMedia issue with that is a picture can have 100 interpretations if we just actually read the story maybe the op community would be able to come to a consensus on some of these topics
@Insofistikerad
@Insofistikerad 4 ай бұрын
Roger made multiple generations learn how to sail and live on the water! To prepare them for the future
@Redinho1
@Redinho1 4 ай бұрын
Aight bro... You cooked a gourmet meal with this one
@Jarvanni100
@Jarvanni100 4 ай бұрын
I mean they are pirates.. not hero’s 😂😂😂😂 people tripping
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 4 ай бұрын
Disingenuous goofy. In the eyes of many, Luffy and the strawhats are heroes. In the eyes of *MANY* , Joyboy is a hero. In the eyes of *MANY* , Roger was a hero. In the eyes of *MANY* Whitebeard is a hero. In the eyes of *MANY* , shanks is a hero. All pirates 🤡
@ripkeyboarding3755
@ripkeyboarding3755 4 ай бұрын
@@GourSmithwe get what ur saying I agree with you also but at the same time 2 things can be true at once no need to be a dick he has a point
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 4 ай бұрын
@@ripkeyboarding3755 He doesn’t have a point. The pirates I mentioned might not “identify” as pirates … But they do heroic things for the sake of others. Buddy is tripping big time. I didn’t use any colorful language or swear at the goofy … So I’m not really being a dick.
@quintonspencer1170
@quintonspencer1170 4 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@GourSmithkey phrase “in the eyes of many” meaning other people put them on that pedestal. They simply wanted the freedom to do whatever they desired at their leisure. If they happen to save people along the way, cool. But they’re pirates not heroes. Luffy literally says this himself in his own way. “A hero will share his meat, I want all of the meat.” Calling someone a fraud for not meeting your expectations when they themselves didn’t want you to expect anything from them in the first place is crazy. In the eyes of many, Akainu is a hero In the eyes of many for a time both Doffy and Crocodile were seen as heroes In the eyes of many Enel was seen as a god. This is silly
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 4 ай бұрын
@@quintonspencer1170 Just another disingenuous goofy in a One Piece comment section 😂 This one’s named Quinton. I’m not just saying “in the eyes of many” … I’m saying the pirates I mentioned are literally heroes. Roger and Whitebeard used their dying breaths to tell the world the truth and push them toward solving the puzzle before them. You then bring up the most oxymoronic quote from luffy “I want all the meat, I don’t wanna share” … Buddy. Did you not read/watch the story? Luffy’s whole schtick is creating a world where his friends can “eat as much as they want”. So in reality he doesn’t wanna eat all the meat. He liberates entire nations. He didn’t take all their meat 😂 Rayleigh and the remaining Roger pirates have literally been preparing for the great flood since they disbanded … Their role in the story isn’t over yet. 🤡🤡🤡 Shanks, Whitebeard, Roger, Luffy, Oden, etc are heroes *BY DEFINITION* …
@Jay_Gouda
@Jay_Gouda 4 ай бұрын
Nobody had awakened the Nika fruit and Poseidon wasn’t born yet. They were too early and wanted the next generation to experience the adventure for themselves
@ghostsotelo5191
@ghostsotelo5191 4 ай бұрын
And roger was literally about to die with Roger dying rocks most likely gone who was gonna fight the WG 😂
@EA-dweller
@EA-dweller 4 ай бұрын
I don’t about you guys but I think the void century never happened. It’s happening right now. The current story of One Piece is the Void Century. Luffy is not Joyboy but instead Joyboy is Luffy. Some with call him Joyboy in place like Wano, others will call him Nika the sun god in Elbaf. Joyboy who sent a letter to the Mermaid princess that he couldn’t accomplish his promise is literally the promise Luffy made to Shirahoshi. The evil King who was torturing the small people from Dressrosa and enslaved them was Simply Doflamingo. When Roger laughed when he discovered the One Piece who else makes us laugh as much that clown Luffy? Remember Roget said he wish he was born in the same era. We don’t know if he meant the past or the future. Also Shanks, Crocus and Rayleigh also said Luffy was the One they were wait for, that the hat fit him so well. It’s quite simple that hat has always been Luffy’s. Momonosuke will learn to write the poneglyhs from his grandfather, Robin will help him and also create the Ohara kingdom, I think I will be Vivi who might acquire the devil fruit power to send the poneglyphs in the past. They sent them 900 years earlier to prepare for that we are living right now. In a funny way, Veganpunk could actually be the one who originally created the devil fruits or mother flames. He is simply not aware of it. I also think the reason there was no king on the throne of Marijoie is because the 20 Kings were aware of this and decided to avoid this war by swearing that no one should be on that throne but Imu managed to get a throne and tried to shape the future.
@mikzikomax1851
@mikzikomax1851 4 ай бұрын
​@@EA-dweller damn bro you into something
@Nathan-gm9nl
@Nathan-gm9nl 4 ай бұрын
@@EA-dweller Last I checked, Luffy wasn't the first pirate, which we know Joy Boy was.
@Lgd4033fourty
@Lgd4033fourty 4 ай бұрын
@@EA-dweller Wait a fkn second. I think this is actually it. There was always a theory on time travel and how Luffy would become the Joyboy of the past, leave his giant straw hat behind etc... but this... This might be the answer to one piece. THE REASON LUFFY DOESNT WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE ONE PIECE IS OR THE STORY IS BECAUSE IT WONT PLAY OUT IN THE WAY IT SHOULD. FREEDOM. LIBERATION. "I wanna...!!!"
@ventsislavminev
@ventsislavminev 4 ай бұрын
The Roger pirates doing nothing confirms Dragon was an apprentice on their ship.
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 4 ай бұрын
So he was a pirate before he was a marine?
@Ma1n033
@Ma1n033 4 ай бұрын
It’s a joke .🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GourSmith
@GourSmith 4 ай бұрын
@@Ma1n033 No shit 🤦‍♂️
@Tripsy9088
@Tripsy9088 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
@BillKapri7
@BillKapri7 4 ай бұрын
@@GourSmithhe was also a bounty hunter
@djgoku7774
@djgoku7774 4 ай бұрын
Roger knew the assignment and setup the chosen one for success. Nuff said....he, nor his crew could do anything about it at the time.
@splitvortex_9636
@splitvortex_9636 4 ай бұрын
Remember, Rayleigh was gonna spill everything before the time skip, Robin was like nah, vegapunk doesn’t know this information.
@xebec995
@xebec995 4 ай бұрын
They were TOO EARLY
@RjInvests
@RjInvests 4 ай бұрын
Whatever that means
@Fx_Qz
@Fx_Qz 4 ай бұрын
​@@RjInveststhat means they weren't the chosen one
@xebec995
@xebec995 4 ай бұрын
@@RjInvests for one poseidon is needed and she wasnt born during roger lifetime
@Minority-bounty-hunter
@Minority-bounty-hunter 4 ай бұрын
It’s been 800 years*
@xebec995
@xebec995 4 ай бұрын
@@Minority-bounty-hunter it seems 2 condition need to be met to change the world. 1. You need a joyboy (someone to awaken gum gum fruit) 2. Poseidon. This is the first time in 800year where both conditions have been met, im assuming, so luffy is the one not roger.
@tavmack
@tavmack 4 ай бұрын
Brago thats tough, having the commercial in the video got me hyped. Proud of you bro, been here for damn near the whole come up. 2017 . Keep grinding 🔥
@consolemans
@consolemans 4 ай бұрын
These complainers are Mock town tier, loser behaviour.
@godiloveminininjas4278
@godiloveminininjas4278 4 ай бұрын
Fr
@courtneyjames471
@courtneyjames471 4 ай бұрын
Exactly homie 😂
@zero1188
@zero1188 4 ай бұрын
Rayleigh: want to save the world? Roger: nah lets laugh instead
@Cedric-Cortez
@Cedric-Cortez 4 ай бұрын
Roger: “My unborn son will probably laugh too.”
@Typ35849
@Typ35849 4 ай бұрын
No one would of believed the roger pirates, people in the one piece world don't even believe in the one piece, people didn't even believe vegapunk at first, and also the world government wouldn't let them just tell the whole world
@krisby05
@krisby05 4 ай бұрын
I'm confused on why people think they're frauds. Nobody would believe a group of pirates about this. Even beyond Rodgers himself what would the remnants of his crew do about this/why should they care besides protecting themselves and those they care about.
@davidbuchanan4086
@davidbuchanan4086 4 ай бұрын
Imagine this..there's a drain plug at laugh tale. When pulled the water drains out like a cartoon. It seems like Fishman island is rising. The red line is like the alps or Rockies/andies. Now everyone can meet us easily and have a huge feast with all the people he befriended along the way
@unknownuser993
@unknownuser993 4 ай бұрын
Ah, weekly "X is a fraud" trend. Classic
@rayshunterrell1417
@rayshunterrell1417 4 ай бұрын
If the roger pirates knew everything, then we can assume that they knew about toki’s mission and the resurgence of the kozuki. Joyboy himself was predicted to return. They had to sit on their hands reluctantly to prevent them from tampering with how things were supposed to play out with the outcome of Wano. Roger knew joyboys plan and put his faith in his return and ability.
@alcatrazvongola
@alcatrazvongola 4 ай бұрын
Whoa, didn't expect my comment to turn into a video! I appreciate the shout out, B.D.A Law ☺️ Let's all continue solving these mysteries together.
@BragoDAce
@BragoDAce 4 ай бұрын
Thank you brother
@tombenjamin3685
@tombenjamin3685 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking… what if Luffy’s dream is to drain the ocean. The oceans are what separates everyone.
@zero1188
@zero1188 4 ай бұрын
People forget this was explained when roger said he was too early
@tdm5089
@tdm5089 4 ай бұрын
It’s insane you say create bc Roger’s son or his “creation” ACE nd Roger raising shanks on his ship to become who his is, is a direct influence in Luffy wanting to pursue being a pirate nd KOP so it makes sense what Roger role was in preparing that nxt gen or really the next Joyboy himself.
@joebaby81
@joebaby81 4 ай бұрын
Roger after learning about an upcoming genocide: Nah id laugh
@imcoach6978
@imcoach6978 4 ай бұрын
There's a thread on reddit about this newer person to OP interpreting the Roger laughed moment different that kinda hits. So many people are focused on what the roger pirates are doing and this dude is talking about where they are instead. I digged it I can't remember the title sadly it was something like why they did "nothing"
@thefootballguy6562
@thefootballguy6562 4 ай бұрын
I just don’t get how people think the Rodger pirates could’ve done anything 😅🤷‍♂️ considering JoyBoy with 3 ancient weapons didn’t win themselves 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@dqf9830
@dqf9830 4 ай бұрын
I think a part of why they laughed is that they knew the world was fcked and there was nothing they could do about it
@ramzee8207
@ramzee8207 4 ай бұрын
Roger was definitely intricate to the “Joyboy” reincarnation. Starting the pirate era, having Ace, and having Shanks steal the Gumo gumo no mi to “give” to Ace right?! Went to East blue after stealing, which was the same island that Ace was on. Roger set the framework for the story to keep going.
@Chaosking707
@Chaosking707 4 ай бұрын
The same people who say their frauds are the same people who skipped skypiea
@Virdar337
@Virdar337 4 ай бұрын
They knew they would fail and in the process make more difficult for someone else to do it. Remember the previous war too 100 year, Roger was already dying. You gotta pass the ball when you can’t score
@JayDPhantomReaper
@JayDPhantomReaper 4 ай бұрын
By starting the great pirate era Roger ensured. 1. Higher chances of people especially the right one find the one piece and learn the truth. 2. People get more accustomed to life at sea incase the flood occurs. 3. Shirahoshi and Luffy hadn't been born yet so the info became essentially useless. Also who was gonna believe Roger and his crew who have been paited as demons by the world gvt.
@Yumemaru.
@Yumemaru. 4 ай бұрын
We've known for a long time that the Roger pirates basically know some kind of prophecy through the One Piece. There's a reason why Roger said he was too early, why Oden knew that Wano would be freed in twenty years, and why Rayleigh and Crocus were waiting for Luffy. It's clear that they've been waiting for Luffy, the warrior of liberation to do his thing. And it's clear that it had to happen this way, for whatever reason. Because that's how the Roger pirates have treated Luffy throughout the story. I'm 99% sure Shanks "bet on the future" was that Luffy was the sun god that the Roget pirates have been waiting for.
@matthewsanchez9361
@matthewsanchez9361 4 ай бұрын
With the recent revelation that the water has raised 200meters, does that peak anyone else's curiosity how Rayleigh the right hand of Roger knows how to coat ships. Maybe that knowledge was used to find Laughtale hidden underwater some where
@gordonfoo2416
@gordonfoo2416 4 ай бұрын
Rogers: we're pirates, not Hero.
@mokaljordan
@mokaljordan 4 ай бұрын
Well said brago, alcatrazvongola and many others in the community, so many ppl are quick to call characters frauds cuz they arent playing a hero role, we saw this with dragon especially during ginny's situation and now are seeing this with the roger pirates since vegapunk is a good guy that wants answers but context is everything which yall layed out perfectly
@jfarmand8
@jfarmand8 4 ай бұрын
11:42 There are people all over the world that are calling VP (THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD) a quack and that none of what he’s saying is true. Do people really think that they would’ve taken the word of a Pirate BEFORE the Great Pirate Era???
@kingkelz215
@kingkelz215 4 ай бұрын
Uranus: Destroy the Red Line Poseidon: Gather humanity on the Noah Pluton: Create a drain for the otherwise rising sea water Joyboy: Stretch the sunken continents to the surface _Dragon: …_
@derpsincorporated6539
@derpsincorporated6539 4 ай бұрын
I think Roger thought Shanks was supposed to be Joy boy and that's why he had the Nika fruit but since the fruits have a will of their own when they came in close proximity to Luffy he was compelled to eat it thereby fulfilling it's desire or something like that.
@Jb-id1bu
@Jb-id1bu 4 ай бұрын
I doubt that, given he outright said he thought his yet unborn son would be the one to do it to Rayleigh. And even if you wanted to interpret thst as Shanks, you couldn't, since Rayleigh also outright says he doesn't have a son,and Roger responds with "I will in the future".
@derpsincorporated6539
@derpsincorporated6539 4 ай бұрын
@Jb-id1bu Maybe Shanks was delivering it to Ace and Luffy ate it? Same concept different person lol I keep thinking back to what Shanks said to Whitebeard about giving up his arm.
@frankalves9955
@frankalves9955 4 ай бұрын
Same thing with blackbeard , he didn't had to kill his crewmate for the fruit
@MrLordvoldemort101
@MrLordvoldemort101 4 ай бұрын
Nika is a retcon.
@azizyeo4965
@azizyeo4965 4 ай бұрын
How is that a serious discussion? Vegapunk is addressing the world's population, not us the readers (at least not directly). The Roger pirates finding out about the truth of the world is new information for them, but not us. We've known this for some time now. We know they were too early. We have the context. Of course vegapunk himself doesn't know they where early but he understands the truth is within the one piece Where's the speculation coming from?
@27Lozc
@27Lozc 4 ай бұрын
The speculation is coming from people still not knowing many details about the void century. We don’t have much context actually, just speculation with a different perspective than Vegapunk.
@azizyeo4965
@azizyeo4965 4 ай бұрын
@@27Lozc maybe I misunderstood the discussion, but everything seems to start from vegapunk revealing the Roger's pirate knew about the world's fate and stayed quiet. I'm arguing we know why they stayed quiet: They couldn't do anything to change it similarly to vegapunk. They were too early. It's not like the world would believe pirates anyway
@Astro2024
@Astro2024 4 ай бұрын
Because one piece fans lol
@aritrasaha441
@aritrasaha441 4 ай бұрын
We dont claim them​@@Astro2024
@27Lozc
@27Lozc 4 ай бұрын
@@azizyeo4965 Yeah we know this but still have no clue about the void century or any specific details about the Roger pirates decisions. All we know is Oden wanted the borders opened up after his journey. Every other Roger pirate did virtually nothing in reaction to their journey as far as we know. This is why people are still speculating regarding this topic. Cause now certain things can be linked to their prior knowledge and we are starting to know more about what went down 800 years ago. Like Shanks letting Luffy eat the fruit in the first place. Is that just a mere coincidence now? There’s a lot of questions that can be asked.
@StreamerClipsReal
@StreamerClipsReal 4 ай бұрын
I think joyboy wanted to cleanse the world off of devil fruits and started the flood. This would also explain why all the kings were so willing to go against him and why the first thing shanks said to luffy was “u can’t swim anymore” after he ate the fruit.
@g3mkn1ght60
@g3mkn1ght60 4 ай бұрын
The roger pirates know the void century punch line, vegapunk has bits and pieces, they’re not frauds until we know the full picture
@brianq6244
@brianq6244 4 ай бұрын
Roger dead ass said it was to early for them, Roger knew it was nothing he could do for the future. He found it out and started something to protect the future which isjoyboy return. Big mom got mad he didn’t tell anyone about it
@El_D_Ablo
@El_D_Ablo 4 ай бұрын
Like @xebec995 said: they were too early. Remember when Oden went back to wano? He knew that joy boy was going to return which is why he wanted to open the boarders and even said that if he didn’t beat Kaido, that the new generation 20 years later would. So I’m pretty sure laugh tale (like those sea kings) somehow knew/know what’s to come in the future; and if so, it would make sense not to talk about it because of other future info they learned. Proof is that the sea kings, zuneshia, and even joy boy himself seemed to all know that joy boy would return 900 years later
@jonnoibeckford2490
@jonnoibeckford2490 4 ай бұрын
Another reason is Roger a pirate nobody going to believe him has much has vegapunk a respected scientist who won noble prize
@danielblackburn9012
@danielblackburn9012 4 ай бұрын
What if the treasure is sooooo small no one can take it except somebody with the gomu gomu no mi? If joyboy was awakened he could have shrunk it down. Then they could have picked it up when Roger found it, but it really would have been worthless. Roger would have laughed because what a way to keep your treasure safe bro you made it tiny. Joyboy knew it would be safe too because who would take tiny treasure??
@jbshaver829
@jbshaver829 4 ай бұрын
I think god valley has so much more to do with Roger finding laugh tale than we think Rocks must have told him something at the time, because it was after god valley (a year after he got to lodestar) that he started going after road poneglyphs. Did he just randomly figure out he had to find the red ones and read them? God valley is gonna be so huge for Roger and rocks lore I hope we get it before laugh tale
@hogn1
@hogn1 4 ай бұрын
the end xD "I dont know what to tell you." HA! hahahahahaha hilarious
@joshuadean6353
@joshuadean6353 4 ай бұрын
A lot of you skipped Skypiea Arc and it shows. Nolan went back and told everyone what he found and the amazing things in the world....and the world government branded him a liar and had him killed. His whole family was discriminated against, even till the current era. His crew members even tried to vouch for him and no one cared. Should Roger have just followed in those footsteps and given the world government the chance to brand him a liar and block off knowledge of the last island or how it can be found?
@zisanzero4052
@zisanzero4052 4 ай бұрын
True, n it happened 200 years ago the same year timeline that Iron Giant awakened attacking Mariejoa
@bigivel
@bigivel 4 ай бұрын
Wrong! It wasn't the world Government, it was his kingdom. And while the King was greedy and in a rush, it makes sense why he made that. He took 1000 soldiers, meaning people, and only a dozen survived the voyage to Jaya. So basically at least 900 people died in the voyage, and they found nothing! The consequence for making 900 people dying, was defaming and executing him. Now, certainly Noland wasn't lying, and the king should have taken less people, and taken Noland crew. Noland told him this at first, but then accepted(He shoulnd't have!)
@bigivel
@bigivel 4 ай бұрын
@@zisanzero4052 No, Noland story was 400 years ago. 200 years before the Mariejoa Giant.
@joshuadean6353
@joshuadean6353 4 ай бұрын
@@bigivel ...the voyage is only possible with the approval of the world government(if they need that approval that means they are apart of the world government and under their authority btw). The story clearly implies the world government took its time to approve the voyage(many years) and the voyage was only approved after half the island disappeared. With what we know now...that was not a coincidence. Noland was completely unaware of why the government was against him but we the readers know quite clearly. Imagine being loud and stupid.
@bigivel
@bigivel 4 ай бұрын
​ @joshuadean6353 No that is not implied at all. You're making a lot of assumptions that aren't in the story. The world government is only referred in Noland story one time, and is the approval "To enter the Grand Line", not Jaya. The story of Noland has no interference of the world Government, and it tells explicitly what is the lvneel kingdom part on it. Your want to frame things to the world government is wishful thinking.
@jnickerson234
@jnickerson234 4 ай бұрын
Are people forgetting Oda has set up some sort of time importance based on Toki saying exactly 20 years and Roger's "We came too early" ? Like do half these people even READ the series before ranting (ofc they dont) so i dont understand the hate these mfs are pulling towards Roger Pirates
@mr.skateandwatch
@mr.skateandwatch 4 ай бұрын
Crocodile is Gaban
@ReiseLukas
@ReiseLukas 4 ай бұрын
I think the Roger Pirates discovered Joyboy had a plan in place to save the world. What makes the Roger Pirates laugh I think is because if they learn of Joyboy's story they would know Joyboy coming up with a plan is absolutely hilarious. Think of Luffy. If Joyboy was anything like Luffy than it's safe to say that like Luffy Joyboy didn't make plans, he ruins plans. Luffy throughout the story sooner or later is the one who ruins the Plan other characters made. So for the situation in the Void Century to get to the point where even the Plan destroyer Joyboy has to make a plan himself is prettt dire. Joyboy's plan has to be absolutely bonkers, something so ridiculous but also actually work would be hilarious. Imagine the process of saving the world is so funny that it unites all people together
@27Lozc
@27Lozc 4 ай бұрын
Well we know one piece is an actual thing and not just a plan or an idea. Oda has confirmed this long time ago. So they could have been laughing at one piece itself.
@ReiseLukas
@ReiseLukas 4 ай бұрын
@@27Lozc I never said the One Piece itself was a plan, you misunderstood me. The One Piece is probably an item that is needed to enact the plan. The Ponoglyphs are items needed for the plan, the Ancient Weapons are items needed for the plan and the One Piece is the final piece needed.
@27Lozc
@27Lozc 4 ай бұрын
@@ReiseLukas I know this, I’m telling you the plan itself may not be all that funny, Roger pirates could be laughing cause the item One Piece itself is something hilarious to them. We don’t really know. They could also be laughing at the fact that they got there too early and there was nothing they could do. Such a long and hard journey resulting in nothing tangible for them, can’t help but laugh at that.
@gavinbigelow261
@gavinbigelow261 4 ай бұрын
Imagine Roger laughed thinking, “Y’all really think I could beat the WG?”😭
@radaro.9682
@radaro.9682 4 ай бұрын
No one person saves society during a revolution. We all have small parts to play. How we treat each other, the ground work we lay, th people we inspire. The ideas we give to the next generation. All are small pieces of what shapes the future. We cannot change the world alone, no mater who or what we are.
@Alkeq
@Alkeq 4 ай бұрын
Why *would* pirates do anything about it other than laugh? Would you? Probably not.
@povteer
@povteer 4 ай бұрын
Roger already knew his assignment - setting off the great pirate era. everything folows.
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 4 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who always thought this idea that Roger only had Ace to have someone to fulfill a prophecy was a little wrong? He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would see his son as a pawn in someone's grand plan and I always saw him saying that his son would be the one who would be "The Chosen One" more as a joke
@chriscrookham3340
@chriscrookham3340 4 ай бұрын
We need to get passed the crocus thing. He did not position himself where he is at the beginning of our journey because of what he learned about the void century. He already lived at the twin capes long before Roger picked him up to go on the final journey. Crocus joined the Roger pirates only to look for Brookes crew for laboon. Crocus has always for some reason had the job of lighthouse keeper at the entrance of the Grand line. He did not do that strategically after Roger died
@yuuurboyuce2968
@yuuurboyuce2968 4 ай бұрын
You know idk if this is random of me saying but I feel like the admirals know too and not saying anything. Maybe it’s the way Akainu said it when he said “you’re just going say everything vegapunk?” And it’s making me wonder why they’re not doing anything. I’m also curious to know what Garp and Sengoku know because I’m pretty sure it wasn’t just Roger and the elders that knew. IMO though. I could be really wrong. It also makes me wonder what dragon knows to.
@shawntepage5158
@shawntepage5158 4 ай бұрын
From what I remember the series The Rodger pirates knew they were too early to change anything that's why they didn't do anything that's why Rodger said what he did before his execution
@MrLovolovo
@MrLovolovo 4 ай бұрын
bruh after all the portgas d rouge stuff there is nothing that could make roger a "good" guy... oda just wrote pirates like that, adventure over everything
@SLTTPOH
@SLTTPOH 4 ай бұрын
The riger pirates didn't leave people in the dark. He literally told the whole world he left it all in one piece, just go find it
@Grigorii-j7z
@Grigorii-j7z 4 ай бұрын
Good twist would be for Luffy to find One Piece, learn the truth and say "Nah, I'm a pirate, bitch. Not my problem." And live all this Grand Conspiracy for Coby to deal with.
@johnnoreau3570
@johnnoreau3570 4 ай бұрын
@@wolfmanjack9959if you knew what they meant then you still understood just fine 🤗
@johnnoreau3570
@johnnoreau3570 4 ай бұрын
@@wolfmanjack9959 so virtuous of you to correct someone else so another person doesn’t misunderstand them. You always go around correcting others like it’s the equivalent to doing a good deed for the day? Are you assuming somebody else who couldn’t understand wouldn’t be able to speak for themselves? So you. The oh so virtuous god of the internet had to point out the mistake for all the lowly individuals who couldn’t be able to figure it out without your divine intervention?
@Nathan-gm9nl
@Nathan-gm9nl 4 ай бұрын
that's the worst twist I have ever heard.
@Grigorii-j7z
@Grigorii-j7z 4 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-gm9nl exactly!
@Nathan-gm9nl
@Nathan-gm9nl 4 ай бұрын
Why are people suddenly acting surprised when we know that the Roger pirates knew the entire void century ever since Sabaody.
@binay413963
@binay413963 4 ай бұрын
We did not know about the world drowning
@Nathan-gm9nl
@Nathan-gm9nl 4 ай бұрын
@@binay413963 Ok and ? It's been already established that they were too soon.
@restionSerpentine
@restionSerpentine 4 ай бұрын
People have have laughed at me for this theory before, But the Ancient weapon Roger had, was The Oro Jackson. Tom The Shipwright had the blueprints for Pluton, it was made out of rare Adam wood, just like the thousand sunny, made by Franky, Whom I also believe read those blueprints and memorized them before destroying them. I think the straw hats thousand sunny is a Pluton as well.
@ehsanrahee7411
@ehsanrahee7411 4 ай бұрын
Solid and well explained. This is one of THE best One Piece videos.
@final2k565
@final2k565 4 ай бұрын
You can think of the great pirate era as Roger’s warning to the world
@dirmusloner7963
@dirmusloner7963 3 ай бұрын
Bda law question here. In 1044 chapter we found out about gomu gomu fruit from a conversafion from gorosei, in the 1st chapter Shanks found the fruit and luffy eats it. I think there is a chapter after 1044 that Shankar visits Gorosei and has a proposal to discuss with them. So my 1st question is, would it be what it been revealed about shanks to say that Shanks somehow is working for gorosei? Amd found the gomu gomu fruit for the benefits of the world government? Second could it be that gomu gomu fruit that has the ability TAHT anyone eats it has rubber abilities in combat but also brings smile on faces be related to joyboy?
@theoriesabouttheories
@theoriesabouttheories 4 ай бұрын
Puts second in command in the Sabo archipelago, the gateway to Fishman island. "The Roger pirates didn't do anything!"
@TheStratUchiha
@TheStratUchiha 4 ай бұрын
Also we can now see the gorosei is strong as well as there are other forces with Roger dying they would have been wiped out. Now there are more people in the world to fight the World Government from the Revolutionaries, to the straw hats to the giants in Elbaf, etc. can’t include Shanks crew cause i don’t know where shanks allegiance is
@musfiqurrahman7906
@musfiqurrahman7906 4 ай бұрын
We already knew that roger pirates knew the truth but they couldn't do anything about that.
@marlonchrislibrando3481
@marlonchrislibrando3481 4 ай бұрын
One piece is a gold poneglyph containing all the poneglyph scattered around the world
@subi7486
@subi7486 4 ай бұрын
why yall treating roger pirates like they heroes sent by the righteous kingdom or something.. bro is literally a pirate, after finding out the truth roger wont go "hey reyleigh you know we should do next? we're gonna save the world"
@sisilotau2185
@sisilotau2185 4 ай бұрын
Saying they didn’t do anything kind of ignores how much they did to get the pirate age going and helping the new Joyboy (Luffy) get to where he is
@kyallon1213
@kyallon1213 4 ай бұрын
I still think the way more interesting dynamic is how shanks and especially buggy respond to vegapunks allegations. Because nobody knows that they DONT KNOW, and I 100% see buggy lying and saying he does
@T33-y8b
@T33-y8b 4 ай бұрын
Seems like Rodger is what Magic & Bird were to the NBA. Very important players in the sense of ensuring the NBA doesn’t falloff and inspiring enough people to play ball.
@josephfournier255
@josephfournier255 4 ай бұрын
Joy boy: the future generations will fix this Fraudger: The future generations will fix this
@twitchballingking519
@twitchballingking519 4 ай бұрын
It’s crazy that ancient weapon isn’t guarded that well in fish men island literally anybody can go down there and kidnap her
@gabrielcarter16
@gabrielcarter16 4 ай бұрын
At the same time, she can easily get saved by a sea king since they are underwater and tbh just having to go underwater to get to her is just a massive advantage to keeping her safe.
@Unbearablelifer
@Unbearablelifer 4 ай бұрын
​@@gabrielcarter16Exactly!! Poseidon is well protected down there if anything they had a better chance, when she was at the reverie. For Pluton, well since Kaido isn't technically guarding it anymore someone has a better chance of getting it. But for that to happen they would have to force Momo to call Zuniesha to remove the wall to free it. In all the ancient weapons are pretty protected.
@Shoddragon
@Shoddragon 4 ай бұрын
Shirahoshi can literally just summon several kilometer long sea monsters to come face fuck any pirate ship that attempts to come do harm to her or fishman island in general tho lmfao.
@getyodad8124
@getyodad8124 4 ай бұрын
3:23 bro like where does he even get this theory from, like roger never had an ancient weapon… Please never cook again!!!!!!!!
@getyodad8124
@getyodad8124 4 ай бұрын
Like these theory start making less and less sense everyday😂
@theaumguy1621
@theaumguy1621 4 ай бұрын
What if the Roger Pirates went to different key positions after Laughtale/Rogers death and everyone got different tasks on the journey of "future Joyboy" to test him Shanks at the Island where his son was raised - to wake his dreams of becoming a pirate Buggy at East Blue - 1st "bigger" enemy to overcome Crocus after Reverse Mountain - 1st step into the Grandline Rayleigh at Sabaody - 2nd step on the Grandline, right before the New World Nekomamushi and Inuarashi - help/battle for one of the road ponegylphs Someone I dont know yet on or near Totoland - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs Oden if he would have survived at Wano - help/battle for one of the road poneglyphs *edit mabye stussy? Mr Momora throughout the whole journey - i think he is Big News Morgans, hes there to tell the world about the journey of Joyboy maybe there are even more, but we dont know a lot more about the Rogers pirates than about these ones.. Everyone was waiting for Ace, but met Luffy instead without even knowing he's the one they were reading about on Laugthale Luffy just met all of them by "accident" because he is the real Joyboy, not the one Roger planned for
@norgeluis2559
@norgeluis2559 4 ай бұрын
The Roger Pirates have been guiding us through out the entire show. Shanks set Loofy on his journey, Crocus gave us the first Log Pose (well second IYKYK) Silvers coated the ship and showed Luffy how to use Haki, to say they did nothing is wild. I know Scopper Gabán is going to be waiting in Elbaf
@luiscornieles4456
@luiscornieles4456 4 ай бұрын
Shanks knows about the world sinking that's why none of his crew members have Dfruits
@thecelgames2937
@thecelgames2937 4 ай бұрын
I'm starting to think the ancient weapons were not originally created to be used as weapons based on what happened to Vegapunk. The world twist all good intentions after all
@c24-g8m
@c24-g8m 4 ай бұрын
Even now in the present, Momo refused to open Wano boarders. I don’t think it’s just about timing, i think a certain event has to take to place that’ll trigger everything being set in motion.
@porcupinezebra648
@porcupinezebra648 4 ай бұрын
i find it really funny people are mad about the roger pirates didnt tell the world about the truth of the world, even tho they said explicitly, "We were too early" and they knew about inherited will and knew that a new Joy Boy would come soonish, classic op fans not understanding what goes on in the story because they dont reread
@susandinosaur732
@susandinosaur732 4 ай бұрын
i remember the lesson my teacher gave me a lot of years ago. im paraphrasing because she said it in our local language. "Words power depends on the speaker" something like that.😂 like if the sentence is "the school will be close tommorow" If said by a fellow student it will be powerless. but it will be different if its told by the faculty/principal. i think roger pirates know that what they found needs to be broadcasted but there is too much time to spare that they can just let anyone willing enough find what they found.
@Tourbus2
@Tourbus2 4 ай бұрын
that would makes it even more logical sense that shanks planed to give the fruit to Ace if he might knew about it too afterall, but since luffy ate it he now put is bet on him and luffy fullfiled his dreams of becoming joyboy so shanks might try to use luffy for his own wish shanks evil copium
@Steak_Nachos
@Steak_Nachos 4 ай бұрын
Bro if someone executed my captain live, I wouldn’t tell them s*** either lol
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 4 ай бұрын
the info from Lulu Kingdom came from Lindbergh
@joshwilson2271
@joshwilson2271 4 ай бұрын
“Turn the World upside down”? Foreshadowing a Pole shift?
@michaelscottfuku
@michaelscottfuku 4 ай бұрын
The one piece world is a place where not only imagination can manifest in physical form through the power of the devil fruits, but willpower as well. Willpower is basically the power source for Haki and imagination is the power source for dfs. Dfs pass down inherited will through the dfs themselves whilst Haki passes down inherited will in the form of “The will of D”. Luffy has inherited Rogers will through Haki and Luffy has also inherited JoyBoys will through his devil fruit. Haki seems to be more broad however and it can pass down inherited will through many different people and many different and serperate lineages. That’s how we get the Luffys and the Blackbeards with the middle initial D. Whilst only Luffy can inherit the will of Joyboy because he is only one with that devil fruit.
@baonemogomotsi7138
@baonemogomotsi7138 4 ай бұрын
"Roger and his folks are frauds. Why didn't they do anything?!" We literally don't know what they know or what they found out 🤦‍♂️
@thecaptainthalaiva1303
@thecaptainthalaiva1303 4 ай бұрын
Questions need to know is who gave Roger the straw hat, who inspired him to go to sea? Did his village know about Joyboy?
@ajjackson100
@ajjackson100 4 ай бұрын
Still think the whole Roger crew could have been killing Celestials and World Government on the Downlow. It’s some dragon bull that they don’t wipe out the inhabitants of Marygieose. Even if Roger was Dying, the rest of his crew knew. Plus Roger could have warned Whitebeard, Garp, the Surviving members of Rocks(the Yonko)
@Lornda
@Lornda 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if the one piece is actually just a giant oven with a timer on it cooking up the biggest feast known to man.
@unnamedshadow1866
@unnamedshadow1866 4 ай бұрын
Its very likely that whatever Joyboy left at Laugh Tale, needs the Nika Fruit. Its why the Roger Pirates couldn't do anything.
@BigMikasuki
@BigMikasuki 4 ай бұрын
I think they saw the future which is why Roger said they were too early.
@Rr-j4x
@Rr-j4x 4 ай бұрын
toki told roger so he knew luffy will take take of it
@geniuslando
@geniuslando 4 ай бұрын
Either you die a Hero (Roger) or live long enough to become the villain ( Rayliegh)
@shellsama
@shellsama 4 ай бұрын
The fans just forgot what happened at laughtale, Roger and his crew NEVER told anyone about the poneglyph that told them about the void century only that they found the one piece , hence the worlds reaction to finding out they knew
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