I think the term back-benchers comes from the British Parliament, where members do indeed still sit on very cramped, green benches.
@stuffystuffclub6 жыл бұрын
Ich Dien To be specific, the House of Commons: there are no backbenchers in the Lords since there's no real frontbench, and the benches are red in the Lords.
@rationalroundhead67396 жыл бұрын
Cramped during PMQ's, maybe. unless a bill has a three-line whip, those benches are very spacious indeed...
@the-chillian4 жыл бұрын
@@rationalroundhead6739 Cramped in theory, anyway. There isn't enough seating in the chamber for all the MPs. This was done on purpose. After the chamber was wrecked during the Blitz, some proposed it be rebuilt to in a way that it could fit all members, but Churchill thought the cramped quarters was part of how Commons functioned and had it restored to the same dimensions as originally.
@J3diMindTrix3 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed, even with a cursory glance at the Commons, the lack of adequate seating to accommodate all MPs at once and the cramped conditions are quite obvious. I did not know whether this was by accident or design, I know that it is a very old building and thought perhaps people being on the whole smaller in the past might have been the reason. Churchill's decree to rebuild in the historically-accurate style certainly makes sense, though it still doesn't explain why there has seemingly never been enough room for a fully-attended session. That opens the door for a multitude of alternative explanations, along the lines of potential political wrangling and the opportunity to influence a bill. This is politics after all, and little seems to have changed in thousands of years. Say one party were to occupy all the more prominent positions in the chamber, it would lend itself towards guaranteeing a more favourable outcome for that party. Though having said that, the Speaker is essentially grand arbiter of the debate, and gets to choose who speaks, and for how long, much like the Princeps Senatus as described here; so that position wields immense power, as is to be expected. Perhaps second only to the PM. In any case, all this combined, testifies to the Commons often being referred to by its popular nickname, the 'Bear Pit'.
@SdoubleA2 жыл бұрын
@@J3diMindTrix In the past we had way less MPs. The more our population grew, the more the need for more constituencies. Take a look at elections in the 80s and compared to now it looks like entire blocks of land have been split into 5.
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima6 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video I was accepted in third year of history with 10.1 of average grade. By watching this video I managed to obtain an important 17 that literraly saved me from losing my scholarships. Thank you Historia Civilis, what you are doing is not only interesting, it is also very important.
@M_Chen3337 жыл бұрын
4:05 " I have a proposal. It is good." I AM CONVINCED!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jamescoffey42388 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a video about the senate during the Empire?
@cognitivedisability98646 жыл бұрын
Also what happened with the roman senate when the empires power center changed in the 3rd-4th century.
@tacokoneko6 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia claims the following: When Constantine I founded Constantinople circa 330 AD, he created a second Roman Senate and Curia there in parallel with the Senate in Rome. This senate would go on to remain, despite reforms and crises, the senate of the Byzantine Empire until at least the sack of Constantinople by the 4th crusade in 1204 AD. The Roman Senate in Rome, meanwhile, continued to exist after the Ostrogoths captured Italy, through the recapture of Italy by Justinian I, and through the capture of Italy by the Lombards, until at least 603 AD. In 630 AD, Pope Honorius I converted the Curia in Rome that Julius Caesar constructed into a Christian Church, and it is unknown what happened to the senate by this point. The Curia Julia building in Rome still exists there, in a barren and stripped state. Its original bronze front double doors were removed in the 17th century and are currently installed in the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran, the oldest and most important Catholic church, in Rome.
@tacokoneko6 жыл бұрын
i do want him to make more videos about the Empire
@sextuspompeius12665 жыл бұрын
I heard that later on in the empire it was pretty much a city council
@Zqppy4 жыл бұрын
@@tacokoneko that's not at all what they meant
@jtgd Жыл бұрын
“ANTONY! VETO THE MOTION!”
@masterluxu16 жыл бұрын
You’re the best dude. I haven’t been into Rome in a very long time. But you’re series has reignited that flame that was once so close to burning out. Thanks man(: and great work. Can’t wait to see what the future brings.
@GameyRaccoon2 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture is cute
@toastmapping75257 жыл бұрын
The 8 dislikes must be from a couple kings of Rome. Their still a little salty.
@iuliusconstantcornelio20186 жыл бұрын
ToastMapping Rome only had 7 kings !
@maciekGTR6 жыл бұрын
they're*
@MeAreAwesome646 жыл бұрын
Iulius Constant Cornelio Remus probably disliked it as well
@parthiancapitalist27336 жыл бұрын
They're
@parthiancapitalist27336 жыл бұрын
Have fun being on YGS
@the-chillian4 жыл бұрын
Late comment is late, but "backbencher" is much more a Westminster term than Washington, and in the UK, members of Parliament do indeed sit on benches. Junior MPs literally sit on the benches toward the back -- that is, closer to the wall. "Front benchers" refers to Cabinet members, or senior members of opposition parties, including the Shadow Cabinet, who literally sit on benches in front, i.e. along the center aisle. Perhaps not coincidentally, the House of Commons also votes with their feet, by stepping into one of two lobbies, at least when the majority cannot be determined from a voice vote. Hence the Speaker's order, "Division! Clear the lobbies!"
@nszone56115 жыл бұрын
They must’ve called them pedarii because all they could do was walk to whoever they supported
@krissp8712Ай бұрын
How pedestrian!
@TTuoTT7 жыл бұрын
You have a well structured analytical language
@ngolokante78053 жыл бұрын
That's the word
@aclass360qwerty75 жыл бұрын
The classics... its amazing to see how far you have come and how u have helped me to get best in year level for history for 3 years xD tx
@STLshark20132 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos Historia Civilis! I have watched all of them at least twice if not more! Please keep making them this history nerd eats them up!
@AnthonyBoylan9 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for your hard work putting this together. I'll teach it in my grade 11 class. To clarify, did the Public Assembly always vote or could they be completely bypassed by the person presenting the new legislation?
@HistoriaCivilis9 жыл бұрын
Anthony Boylan Hi! Thanks so much. In a strictly legal sense, no, the Public Assembly could not be bypassed. But I get the impression that it was pretty easy to stuff it full of supporters, since it was just a couple hundred people (or so) informally gathered out in the open air. Either way, they still had to rubber stamp any new legislation. Weirdly, it could go the other way. The Senate *could* be bypassed, but almost never was. It was simply an established custom that the Senate approved any legislation before it went down to the Public Assembly, but there was no specific law saying so. There were cases where legislation would meet resistance in the Senate, and the authour would just say "fine, I'll take it directly to the people." It always caused a lot of problems when this happened. Tiberius Gracchus did this, with a radical law that would have seized land from the rich and given it to the urban poor. He was famously murdered, so, you know, it didn't turn out that well for him. Julius Caesar did this once as well, and his Public Assembly turned into an open brawl. The only reason it turned out okay for him was that his angry mob was full of plain-clothed soldiers, and it beat the other angry mob.
@AnthonyBoylan9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Tiberius Gracchus was a great reformer. I first learned about him from Dan Carlin's show, Hardcore History. I'm glad you are making these guides! Please keep it up!
@plamenminchev65637 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Boylan check Extra History's videos on the Graccis reforms.
@ngolokante78053 жыл бұрын
@@HistoriaCivilis wow this guy gives so much time you are 1 in million
@qboxer6 жыл бұрын
As I understand, the chain of events of legislation from proposal to implementation is as it works... as long as the Consul was a Plebeian. If he was a Patrician, I've understood that he would not be able to walk down the steps from the Curia (the Senate House) into the Popular Assembly, as Patricians were not allowed there. Could you comment on this?
@RagHelen6 жыл бұрын
Pedarius comes from the Senaculum, where you had to walk to a certain location and gather. This is similar to a division of the house and not backbenching. In German, the expression sheep jump is used.
@cheydinal54016 жыл бұрын
"Backbenchers" comes from the UK parliament where they literally have benches as well
@FraserSouris6 жыл бұрын
It's great to watch through your videos chronolgically
@ДанилаГалечьян Жыл бұрын
Thanx, watched your videos several times, they help a lot to prepare to the ancient rome history exam!
@paxromana58342 жыл бұрын
I still return to this series even after so many years. It's so excellent.
@willconnell94628 жыл бұрын
If senile comes from the Latin root Senex meaning "old man" does that mran the phrase senile old man is a tautology?
@georgebush99217 жыл бұрын
its a root word not a prefix
@withboldentreaty6 жыл бұрын
It is what it is.
@sintes884 жыл бұрын
Who cares?
@satriaputrapratama47034 жыл бұрын
"Old man with old man like behavious" would be the literal translation of senile old man
@62peppe623 жыл бұрын
It's the opposit of juvenile old man.
@RMSUkraine7 жыл бұрын
watching these after finding some of your newer videos thanks for the great work
@osamasameer3221 Жыл бұрын
Kindly make the video on why and how did Augustus changed the Roman empire , like the politics side of the thing after all the civil wars.
@dothrakidani3584 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Oh how appropriate ive only just found this channel. Loving it so much. And senate is old men AS IT WAS SET UP TO BE, it's literally its name, whatchagonnado...
@michaelpisciarino53485 жыл бұрын
Senex = “Old Man” = Senator 1:17 Hierarchical Power Structure 1:38 Pedarii = “Walkers” = Backbenchers = Senators who never get a chance to speak 2:38 Princep Senatus = “The First Senator” + Higher Ranking than Ex-Consuls Could turn the entire senate for or against a motion 4:26 The Popular/Public Assembly
@alexfeinstein34408 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, really helped when studying :)
@feynstein10045 жыл бұрын
Hello, almost-name-twin. I wasn't aware that mine was a real name 😂
@dotmashrc3 жыл бұрын
your pfp is the most cursed image ever.
@alexfeinstein34403 жыл бұрын
@@dotmashrc LOL
@darthsidious67534 жыл бұрын
The princeps senatus was appointed by the Censors and had to be a patrician.
@TAK-yj4hj4 жыл бұрын
”I have a proposal. It is good.” It sure is. I am convinced
@TrialByDance8 жыл бұрын
Roman Senate during the Empire? ;_;
@htf55558 жыл бұрын
_"I AM the Senate"_
@crazyforcoffee59507 жыл бұрын
htf5555 not yet
@AragornRespecter7 жыл бұрын
Garythestormtrooper do it
@tacokoneko6 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia claims the following: When Constantine I founded Constantinople circa 330 AD, he created a second Roman Senate and Curia there in parallel with the Senate in Rome. This senate would go on to remain, despite reforms and crises, the senate of the Byzantine Empire until at least the sack of Constantinople by the 4th crusade in 1204 AD. The Roman Senate in Rome, meanwhile, continued to exist after the Ostrogoths captured Italy, through the recapture of Italy by Justinian I, and through the capture of Italy by the Lombards, until at least 603 AD. In 630 AD, Pope Honorius I converted the Curia in Rome that Julius Caesar constructed into a Christian Church, and it is unknown what happened to the senate by this point. The Curia Julia building in Rome still exists there, in a barren and stripped state. Its original bronze front double doors were removed in the 17th century and are currently installed in the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran, the oldest and most important Catholic church, in Rome.
@markcannon85222 жыл бұрын
The empire sucks, no better than a barbarian kingdom
@paprus5972 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for "The Roman Senate during the Empire" to inevitably release when he gets to the empire period.
@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 Жыл бұрын
Well - During the period of Augustus and Tiberius Consul - Minor Administrative role + Honorifics + Governorships Praetor - Also minor administrative role + governorships Quaestor - Minor financial role in governing provinces (Not much had been changed, with the exception of 2 additional quaestors which were meant to serve as advisors to the emperor Then there's the emperor. Yep, just an ordinary guy, who was simply permanently given the powers of tribune of the plebs, and the powers of censor, and Imperium over roman provinces, and also became the "Princeps Senatus" and his first name would now literally be "Imperator". But he was just an ordinary citizen, heck - you could call him the "First" citizen
@MM-vs2et6 жыл бұрын
They probably called Quaestors Pedarii, or Walkers, because the only thing they do significantly, is walking over to someone
@parthiancapitalist27336 жыл бұрын
Martin Anthonyo lol
@tepesobrejac43606 жыл бұрын
A random consul: I AM THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY !!
@andrinhirschi38292 жыл бұрын
you videos have become much better. That cool to see. THis isnt bad but your new stuff is more entertainig
@sumofl4 жыл бұрын
this one deserves an update
@caydenberry24116 жыл бұрын
I watched a four minutes ad so you could get money for your hard work. Keep it up!
@rhomaios75489 жыл бұрын
I know they were kind of powerless at the time, but what about during the empire?
@lennydale926 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Guzman I believe in many cases that the emperor served as a Consul with another Co-Consul. (Augustus with Vipsanius Agrippa as example). Though as stated it was more symbolic and there was no dispute over who held the real power.
@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme20464 жыл бұрын
The individual senators had some power, (Praetors were judjes, Consuls influenced who won, Quaestors to help govern provinces) but the senate as a whole was essentially a council of advisors when it came to legislative stuff
@mgr33n37 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for providing Chinese subtitles for my students, thank you x100
@TheKadanz4 жыл бұрын
Rome: making Ok boomer acceptable since before christ
@WorgenGrrl4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the comparison between the Senate during the Republic and during the Empire
@LeeRichardson8089 жыл бұрын
Sweet video. Great content!
@mossyroots Жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos! Question though: If there were elections each year for all magistrates but each new elected official retained a lifetime membership of the Senate, how did they keep numbers in the Senate down?
@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 Жыл бұрын
Death
@Gallalad18 жыл бұрын
I know it's not realistic but if you could do a short video on the Senate during the empire? Because sometimes I read bits about the senate doing things(electing emperors and all that) in just curious what happened to them after Caesar Augustus
@anthonyfrias55333 жыл бұрын
Rome still influences us to this day from there system of government to there fashion hair included
@yuripantyhose49735 жыл бұрын
Could you do one about the EU, the ECB and European Commission? This is the best conveyed medium for political organization I have seen even though i disagree with you politically. Thanks for your work.
@SuperRichyrich118 жыл бұрын
How many members of the Senate were there, and how did they initially become senators?
@Quintinohthree8 жыл бұрын
Remember how senatorship is for life? That also means the senate's membership varied. People entered the senate and died.
@rmk31554 жыл бұрын
You'd serve as a military tribune for a time, specifically a tribunus laticlavius. That being the late republic and empire. But the principle still stands just that all the tribunes were equal.
@mashucha4 жыл бұрын
There's usually be around 500-900 members
@Ayush-je7cc Жыл бұрын
@@Quintinohthree you joking right?
@Quintinohthree Жыл бұрын
@@Ayush-je7cc Nope. That's how it used to work.
@mickmickymick69276 жыл бұрын
In Latin, each letter has a distinct pronounciation which is usually the same in IPA, and that letter is always pronounced like that. So 'pretarii' would've been pronounced as it's written, not /pritariai/ like it might seem to an American english speaker.
@reshpeck5 жыл бұрын
Mick Mickymick Since you didn't mention it, I'm guessing "prinkeps" is the correct pronunciation?
@catalyst7722 жыл бұрын
@@reshpeck 2 years late but yes, it's Prinkeps. Julii is You-lee, Brutii is Brew-tea (Not July-eye or Brutea-eye)
@reshpeck2 жыл бұрын
@@catalyst772 Better late than never
@oreo17492 жыл бұрын
@@catalyst772 huh thats also how you pronounce July in Hebrew
@vulpes70799 ай бұрын
He isn't speaking Latin
@johnbatsch79382 жыл бұрын
I miss the guitar backtrack.
@orionstark Жыл бұрын
What is this song in the background? What is the title of this soothing guitar rift?
@jeannemaletz71584 жыл бұрын
Yep your correct 100000000000000000%
@TheKarui4 жыл бұрын
Are you ever going to do a remaster of this video :p
@derickgabrillo15796 жыл бұрын
Please do a video of the senate under the empire.
@l.lawliet164 Жыл бұрын
The term walkers probably mean these senators who have no power would go from yes to no after speeches of other members of the senate. Thus, making them walkers.
@diegoviniciomejiaquesada47544 жыл бұрын
Well, the first 60 seconds and I learned something new today
@jackgruber78117 жыл бұрын
This video. It good.
@reshpeck5 жыл бұрын
Jack Gruber Your comment. It sufficient.
@SuperRichyrich117 жыл бұрын
How did one initially become a Senator? Were they voted in, or just appointed?
@martnoort7 жыл бұрын
Voted in by the Comitia Tributa to the office of Questor. If you watch the Cursus Honorum you'll find out more.
@Kouhiko96748 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and vids. amazing work
@francescocatalano58555 жыл бұрын
Ancient people respected very much elder and consider their accrued experience and better judgement. For such relevant governmental institution during many centuries the minimum age for qualifying senator was 53 years old
@MalaysianChopsticks4 жыл бұрын
Francesco Catalano nah, more like limiting the positions to those who survived. Average life expectancy is 35 during this period.
@AnthonyGentile-z2g Жыл бұрын
Where do you get the idea that the princeps Senatus could convene the senate? Gellius 14.7 specifically says that only dictators consuls, praetors, tribunes and the Urban prefect couls convene (cogere) the Senate. Nor did Senate's Consulta have the force of law. Only the people in their assemblies could pass a lex. Al in all, a very good summary however.
@cheydinal54014 жыл бұрын
Mr Princeps Senator, does the former Praetor from the year of Lucius Licinius Murena and Decimus Iunius Silanus even know which Ides we have today?
@Laura-lv1ke6 жыл бұрын
This may be a silly question to which i imagine my presumed answer is correct, but could senators participate in voting with the public assembly? I couldn't find anything about it anywhere and wanted to know whether participation in the two were mutually exclusive
@OCinneide5 жыл бұрын
I think it was only plebs allowed to vote in the public assembly.
@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme20464 жыл бұрын
No, that is not true, there were 4 main assemblies, the Plebian assembly was the only one with this rule
@nicholasboyle32912 ай бұрын
Would the princeps senatus speak before the ex-consuls whom served as consul after them? Also would the consul who didn’t propose the bill speak before the princeps senatus?
@RexGalilae5 жыл бұрын
I think they were called Pedarii because their only contribution to the state was to a) Walk in and out of the Senate Hall Or b) To walk to either side when votes were to be cast
@dardo12017 жыл бұрын
How were the rankings of the senators decided on the rolls?
@dylanrodrigues7 жыл бұрын
According to cursus honorum. They were ranked according to the precedence of their office, their political influence, experience, quality of their blood, etc.
@goshujinsama6663 жыл бұрын
The public assemblies are the comitia centuriata?
@WolfBetter2 жыл бұрын
what a weird video for the algorithm to recommend me.
@bumblebeeeoptimus4 жыл бұрын
how did you learn all of this things? did you do some college or something?
@thegoldman83663 жыл бұрын
yeah
@lucasmetro8 жыл бұрын
What kind of video editor/software do you use if I may ask
@greeneggsandhamsamiam61548 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the Senate still existed during the empire? what was its role then?
@matejcerman44948 жыл бұрын
+Green Eggs And Ham Sam Iam Yes, it did. Its role depended on the emperor, and how much power he allowed the senate to wield. The senate usually still voted on legislation, though it was often just a formality. Some emperors ruled with full consent of the senate, while some did not and they relied solely on the army.
@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme20464 жыл бұрын
The senate had no legislative power other than a council of advisors, but the individual senators had some power (Praetors as judges, etc)
@P7777-u7r4 жыл бұрын
So the Princeps Senatus is comparable to a speaker of the house in a way im getting?
@kylew.48965 жыл бұрын
Backbenchers comes from parliament and they sit on benches...pretty sure they don't use those terms in the house or Senate but I dunno
@alexander9703 Жыл бұрын
Tbf, parliamentarians in the UK parliament to this day sit on benches, and thats where the modern word backbencher comes from.
@jimmyhu49776 жыл бұрын
Wait, why didn't Caesar become Princeps Senatus to push through his agenda after his consulship & governorship had expired?
@MrRemicas5 жыл бұрын
Because he needed to get Imperium in order to not be dragged in a trial for his many illegal acts, and being princeps wouldn't cover for thar.
@fvriovs55026 жыл бұрын
If you see this, I have a question. In another video, you listed these colours as being coded to ex-Quastors, Praetors, etc. Does this mean that say in a Senate of 300, people actually occupying the role of Quastor are not in the Senate, but are appointed after their term? And if they then become Aediles, they're removed and then upon completion reinstated? I'm just slightly confused, because no one seems to ever leave the Senate, yet there are new people joining seemingly every year, and somehow the Senate never exceeded more than 900 Senators. It seems logical for an Aedile to not be in the Senate, but be appointed after he completes. But then you have the issue of what if this man doesn't try to ascend. Few men would've been capable of rising to the top, both because of lack of available seats in the Praetorship and Consulship, as well as the issue of getting elected there in the first place. No matter which way I think about it, it seems to logically follow that the Senate could be endlessly growing, because aside from dying, no one seems to leave, whilst perhaps dozens are joining yearly.
@manheap126 жыл бұрын
If you hold a rank like Questor you are a member of the senate. It’s a lifetime appointment and you never leave b
@IZn0g0uDatAll4 жыл бұрын
If the number of people getting in is constant, you can expect in average as many people to die every year as there are newcomers joining.
@Dumb-Comment5 жыл бұрын
They chose the slang because they literally just walk in and walk out
@StoicFC7 жыл бұрын
I am binge watching this with popcorn and a beer 😊
@cheydinal54012 жыл бұрын
4:15 How crazy that they don't require a 95% majority to end the debate
@rxscience92148 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid, but how old is old in this? Are we talking 70-80 year old senators or 40-50 maybe 60 year old guys?
@ilikemilkandbeer61758 жыл бұрын
during the period of the roman kings people were lucky to live for more than 35/40 years so I guess old means roughly 35 or older! later, towards Caesar's time the rich would live up to 55/65 years more or less!
@Hankyman5837 жыл бұрын
Ryan William Dunlop people often lived longer than 40, the only reason life expectancy was so low was because of high infant mortality
@ilikemilkandbeer61757 жыл бұрын
mnm the life in that period was tough, obviously the richer and more important people lived longer than that, having a healthier lifestyle, but the majority of the Romans in the earlier period didn't. Later on yes, life expectancy was grow!
@k.umquat86043 жыл бұрын
It's been a long journey.
@Cyge240sx2 жыл бұрын
Rome was different to us senators lasted for life. Yeah and how is that different from today?
@TheTonyMcD7 жыл бұрын
I do have a question about the senate. You show the senate as having 300 members. That seems reasonable, but how did they all fit into that tiny building? Were most of them usually absent? Or is maybe the building much bigger than it looks in pictures? Or is it maybe significantly scaled down from the original? If the latter is the case, what exactly did the original senate building look like? If the building couldn't actually fit the entire senate, what would they do in the case that too many senators showed up? Would they change the venue, or would they turn away senators from the meeting based on a hierarchy? Last question, you show the senators sitting in a C shaped fashion, is this how they really sat? The pictures of the current building look like it is a simple layout of two rows of seats along the sides of the building and a podium at one end (But I only seem to be able to find one or two pictures of the other end of the building, and they aren't super detailed). Although it is probable that this was a later renovation. Regardless, your videos are awesome! Even your early ones, aside from the audio, are still incredibly insightful and very entertaining.
@geoffdignam7 жыл бұрын
If you're listening, I'd like to help you with music if you want! Keep it up!
@dismoica76177 жыл бұрын
I can help with visual design! Would be a great convergence of talent :)
@dotmashrc3 жыл бұрын
0:02 let's go
@thewingedhussar41886 жыл бұрын
What difference is their then with the senate and assemblies during the Roman Empire?
@markcannon85222 жыл бұрын
They meant nothing then, the state turned into a hereditary monarchy, one idiot in absolute power voids everything the republic represented.
@hugo57k914 жыл бұрын
"I have a proposal" "It is good: You son of a bitch I'm in
@rexcentx22542 жыл бұрын
name of song?
@d.d.94723 жыл бұрын
The Roman Senate. The best legislature that money could buy.
@honeybadger43967 жыл бұрын
So if the senate voted to pass a bill put the people voted no in a public assembly, would the bill pass? Also had anyone the power to veto something like this?
@honeybadger43967 жыл бұрын
Care to elaborate?
@vgel7 жыл бұрын
HoneyBadger If the public assembly voted the bill down, it wouldn't pass. However, this was rare, and if it did happen the Senate could simply put the bill forward again. There were certain people who could veto public assemblies -- the other consul and the tribunes of the plebs, most notably.
@dotmashrc3 жыл бұрын
0:01 for hc
@artman408 жыл бұрын
How does this differ from modern China's government?
@BritishHistoryGuy8 жыл бұрын
+artman40 The Chinese government is much more complicated. The most important difference is that in Rome there is no distinction between political and military leadership.
@edwarddundon-smith90598 жыл бұрын
These people are elected
@jorenvanderark35678 жыл бұрын
chinas legislature are indirectly elected by thepeople. essentialy it goes like this, tne people elect the members of the local legislature, the local legislature apoints the members of the county legislature and so on till you have reached the national legislature.
@edwarddundon-smith90598 жыл бұрын
+Joren van der ark Oligarchy
@jorenvanderark35678 жыл бұрын
Edward Dundoned smith pretty much.
@dotmashrc3 жыл бұрын
3:43 for the algorithm
@gimmedatsuccjon53737 жыл бұрын
I miss shitty mic historia
@M_Chen3337 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@dotmashrc3 жыл бұрын
0:04 for the algorithm
@Archangelm1276 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how you pronounce all the terms vis-a-vis American English rather than Classical Latin, as I'm used to hearing and saying them. Not wrong per se, just a bit offputting till I got used to it. :)
@HoryWan9 жыл бұрын
What happened if the Public Assembly would vote NO, would the bill pe dropt?
@parthiancapitalist27336 жыл бұрын
HoryWan yes, or revolution
@ilikemilkandbeer61758 жыл бұрын
they went with the name "Pedaria" because the only power they had was to stand on their feet ("pedis" in latin) to show their support, so the name shows that their power did not come from their mouth when they spoke (since they never got to) but in actually standing since their votes still counted!
@Edward135i2 жыл бұрын
The American senate is basically a life long position, unless you royally fuck up.
@codekillerz53922 жыл бұрын
4:21 4:22 anyone hear that?
@josephpaul04842 жыл бұрын
Yes, good thing you said it. You must have a good hearing, I thought it was just my surroundings. LOL
@armandoeng4 жыл бұрын
Pedarii makes sense as its only power was when they walk to vote.
@dotmashrc3 жыл бұрын
2:13 help the video
@siddharthdhadi13264 жыл бұрын
You forgot that the tribune of the plebs could veto the senate.