Ex-Wife Tells of Abuse & Betrayal Behind

[@donnag.3611]

IT'S NOT THE VICTIMS WHO DAMAGE THE CAUSE OF CHRIST! IT IS THE ABUSER WHO IS CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE CAUSE OF CHRIST. This script is used EVERYWHERE where there is abuse in the church!!! It's sickening. Thank you for your story, Naghmeh!

[@Decision_Justice]

Agreed. We must stand up against abuse wherever it is found -- especially within the Church. We must not allow wolves inside the church to abuse people. Allowing abuse only perpetuates the cycle of Abuse. Stand up for the victims!

[@Phyllies24]

Exactly

[@UdoraHogge]

Naghmeh, I spoke to you once to encourage you on the Jay Sekulow show years ago. I was so sad to hear that Saeed was an abuser but I believed you. I am so glad that your Christian faith is still alive. Satan has tried to eliminate you but you have persevered!

[@ezbody]

Has Jay started pounding sand, yet?

[@samanthaerdel2692]

I was 13 when Saeed went to prison in Iran. We prayed and prayed. I remember when he was released. We were so happy. I hadn't given the family another thought until today I was listening to a song about persecution and thought I wonder what happened. When I Google I was appalled and then relieved that his wife Nagmah got out of that situation. Listening to her story touched me. Thank you for sharing. The church needs to take abuse more seriously instead of telling victims ( weather it's SA or DV or emotional and spiritual abuse) they should all be looked into. And taken seriously.

[@deborahwilcox5716]

Amen!

[@danaplasa1413]

It’s unbelievable that anyone had a nerve to shame Naghme for speaking out about her abuse ! It’s crazy what she has been through ! She has done everything to make her marriage work. May God bless her and her children and heal and restore her completely.

[@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044]

It happened to my mother twice with supposedly Christian men. Her first husband was a pastors son drug addict who abused her and didn’t care who else did. So many people told her that the man is the head of the household. They took my half brother away from her for leaving.

[@Decision_Justice]

Yes, far too many women stay with abusers because too many Christians reject a woman who leaves. Leaving is a very difficult step! We need to support the women who leave. And we need to stop shaming women for getting a divorce! As Christians we should be willing to learn more and adjust our attitudes as we learn more. We should not remain in the attitudes of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th, or 6th Centuries!

[@Grammichal]

@@Decision_Justice There’s a whole organization of people who “Stand for Your Marriage.” Yes, God hates divorce but I believe He hates lousy marriages as well. Marriage is supposed to represent the union of Christ and the church. Abusive marriages are an afront to God’s plan.

[@01iceskater]

Sometimes even Christians don't want to hear the truth, and I think this is mainly because they don't know how to deal with these kind of situations. When I heard Naghmeh's story in this interview I realized that in this relationship and the following marriage there were serious issues from the beginning on. I wonder if Naghmeh had any good advise or mentoring in this time. I would assume not. If so, maybe a lot of pain and suffering could have been avoided. But this is also true: God has always a good plan for us, even if we made bad decisions in our lives, with God there's always a good way possible.

[@starstar6777]

Graham owes her a HUGE apology.

[@BB_Ministry]

I counseled a woman once who told me as she was in the hospital, beaten to the point of staying in the hospital to recover. A church member came to visit her and she prayed that this wife would forgive her husband and reconcile. The issue of divorce has far too long been an excuse for spousal abuse to endure. I've litteraly spoke with woman who's church members essentially told the women not to anger their husbands. Sadly in some cases misogyny plagues church culture to the point women are reduced to background noise as the "men" do the work of the Lord.

[@starlingswallow]

Yep. Wives, don't anger your husbands...which then gets twisted as: if your husband is angry, he can blame you and it's all your fault. This was my story for 14 years with my abusive ex. It was always my fault. I needed to try harder, pray harder, read my Bible more, give him more sex....and to suffer as Christ suffered! At the end, my ex escalated to throwing things near me as my back was turned. I know if I would have stayed, he would have ended up hitting me or worse. What in the world?!?! This is what I was taught in Church. This is why I don't attend church anymore. God delivered me out of that horrific abuse and He gave me a new husband who is so gentle, kind, loving, attentive....and we effortlessly put one another first ❤ Like Christ teaches us. I'm in awe of God every single day.

[@BB_Ministry]

@@starlingswallow I'm sorry to hear your story and unfortunately seems to be the case for a lot of women. Any kind of spousal abuse is sinful and should be treated as such in the church. Churches should not hide the abuse behind the walls of the church but alert the proper authorities and counsel in a way that's biblical and wise, not aiding and abetting.

[@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044]

I think he took his anger on her for what was done to him in Iran

[@Marlaina]

We are told to not sin in our anger. That goes for both sexes. So even if the wife does anger their husband it is on him to keep himself from sinning and to remain in control and still show love to the wife. Do these people forget that everyone answers to God one day? Everyone is responsible for themselves.

[@BB_Ministry]

@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 I'm unsure why he was abusive. But I do know sometimes in Christianity women are treated as background noise. Men's behavior and treatment towards women gets excused or swept under the rug. Finally churches abroad and finally admitting they've sheltered abusers.

[@leilareggie1826]

The knowledge of the truth sets us all free. Hypocrisy is everywhere particularly in the church. It is always a disappointment when we discover it among those who are public figures. Thank you for your video. I am 73, a devout lifelong believer in Christ and have been targeted in churches because I dared speak up. Keep up the good work.

[@this9128]

Praise God for her strength and courage and sustaining her!

[@hazelmaylebrun6243]

The days of abusing women in God's name need to end. It's not even about hating the men. They need to repent of what they do too. Jesus doesn't abuse women. I don't tolerate it at all. I'm no longer (thank God) get fooled by those doing spiritual abuse and physical, verbal or mental abuse. I won't toe their line to keep up appearances. It's for freedom Christ has made us free... that doesn't only apply to some Christians, but all of us.

[@snopure]

It boggles my mind that a man who would evidently be willing to be imprisoned or die for the Gospel would also beat the tar out of his wife.

[@expo1706]

He's not a Christian, was never.

[@susannabonke8552]

It's possible however. He might BE a believer AND do horrible stuff..

[@susannabonke8552]

​@@expo1706 I think he is. The Change of personality is up to our own decision, Jesus doesn't force.

[@staceylovesmike]

​@@susannabonke8552​​ In the Bible, Jesus plentifully condemns and warns about "Christians" who claim The Lord's name but don't actually follow His ways. Those people aren't true disciples of Christ aka Christians. And if someone truly knows The Bible, they wouldn't be acting like that. "Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ but you don’t do what I say?" -Jesus in Luke 6:46 (ERV version) "“Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’ Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’" -Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 (ERV version) “Beware of false teachers who come disguised as harmless sheep, but are wolves and will tear you apart. You can detect them by the way they act, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit. You need never confuse grapevines with thorn bushes or figs with thistles. Different kinds of fruit trees can quickly be identified by examining their fruit. A variety that produces delicious fruit never produces an inedible kind. And a tree producing an inedible kind can’t produce what is good. So the trees having the inedible fruit are chopped down and thrown on the fire. Yes, the way to identify a tree or a person is by the kind of fruit produced." -Jesus in Matthew 7:15-20 (TLB version) "“Woe to you, [self-righteous] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of extortion and robbery and self-indulgence (unrestrained greed). You [spiritually] blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and of the plate [examine and change your inner self to conform to God’s precepts], so that the outside [your public life and deeds] may be clean also." -Jesus in Matthew 23:25-26 (AMP version) And countless other examples, especially when He was talking against the Pharisees. I highly recommend reading (***ALL*** the Bible, but especially) the book of Luke; it's highly plentiful and enlightening in its content. 💯

[@uofa82]

In 1984, I was almost killed by my Iranian Muslim boyfriend at the time who attacked me when I declared I would always believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, that I would never give up this belief. God saved me.

[@GodisalwaysgoodW]

Amen

[@laurenmay2098]

Praise God for your life.

[@christinecarr4110]

A Muslim ex-boyfriend has chased me for 20 years but as soon as I sent him a few podcasts about Jesus is Lord I never heard from him again. Thank God I never accepted his marriage proposals.

[@BonnieCain-z2k]

Scripture does say, be unequivocally yoked, does he not??? Answer to God.

[@t.a.d.7892]

Thank you Julie Roys for giving victims a platform to openly share their stories. Thank you Nagmeh for being such a strong survivor and advocating for us.

[@Decision_Justice]

Thank you for Supporting the victims of Abuse. Glad there is someone to help! We cannot allow wolves (the predators) among the flock!

[@susannabonke8552]

You DO accept them unknowingly because it is the normal church culture to tolerate marital abuse. Or are you active in changing that?

[@joycelint6652]

Unfortunately, when any wife of a Christian wife speaks out about an abusive husband, especially onecm who is a leader, she is ostersized.

[@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044]

So true but we need to continue to pray for him

[@Himmiefan]

@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 Are you forgetting her?

[@susannabonke8552]

​@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 how about the victims of abuse? Don't they deserve a platform?

[@karensorenson3615]

So glad to hear this story. Many women are victimized and aren't heard. God bless you ladies!!!

[@moniquewrites9046]

Where are the brothers to hold the man accountable?! A man who mistreats his wife-that is the epitome of self hate.

[@susanneohmes1044]

Oh my goodness! I know abuse! Lived through it, same pattern ! I’m praising God for your trusting walk! He is faithful!!!

[@TheElizabethashby]

OH YES I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH I WENT THROUGH IT FOR 21YRS AND IT TOOK ME YEARS TO GET RIGHT THEN I FOUND THE LORD SO LIFE COULD NEVER BE BETTER

[@donnaeid2862]

Such an important story! God bless this brave woman!

[@em77775]

I relate so much to her story! God rescued me too. He is so good!

[@celestevance5259]

I can understand those who don't want divorce. But the Bible says love your wife as Christ loves the Church. I supported Saeed through his imprisonment, and was appalled when I heard this. Yes, divorce is not God's will, but neither is domestic abuse! I believe that there are three A's when it comes to divorce. Adultery, abandonment and abuse!

[@susannabonke8552]

I never wanted to be divorced but sometimes god has a way that is different than our ways.

[@jana_yvonne_Jacobs]

Sometimes its divorce or death. John 10:10

[@srivera6111]

Amazing how she made it out Alive!! 🙏🙏 Oh God thank you for protecting her & her children ❤

[@susannabonke8552]

Iranian men are different than European where beating your wife is less tolerated than in Asia. I am a survivor myself..Happens anywhere.

[@theroadtoDamascas]

Typical narcissist behavior..still studying Cluster B Personality Disorder going on 4 yrs. Havent got to Cluster A & C yet.😮 What she is saying is true..they call you crazy, abuse starts out verbally and emotionally..then escalates to physically. Large families produce this disorder by neglect, sexual, emotional, mental and physical abuse that shows up in middle-born children in the family. Its generational unless the cycle is recognized and broken. Multiple personality disorder/ D.I.D. results frequently but is not easily detectable. This origin is horrible not only for the narc., but for those they come in contact with, ruining lives. I can spot a narc within a short time now watching and listening someone...and for that im greatful to my Heavenly Father.😊❤

[@BethKowieski]

Thank you for your continued excellence in reporting such painful stories that absolutely require being told. Also, very exciting you are doing your podcast on KZbin. Great decision!

[@iseeyou4951]

Wow just wow. I kind of feel her pain. I am so sorry you went through this but praise God that nightmare is over and he is no longer in ur life. Many women are still trapped and held captive. All the abusers say the same things about their victims that they are mentally ill.

[@gingerj.1202]

I am so relieved you can tell your story. It is clear by some of the comments that some in your audience do not understand the dynamics of domestic violence. Many victims of abuse continue to be abused by those with lack of understanding, preconceived ideas and indoctrinated beliefs. Thank you for being so brave❤

[@TirianOfNarnia]

It's not just that they don't understand the dynamics of abuse. It's that they don't care, period. Most people are heartless.

[@ShoutItFromTheHousetops]

God spoke to me, as I was again crying out to Him on my knees after repeated death threats. I too was afraid to be alone and have another divorce but He said, “Yes, I hate divorce but I hate abuse more.” He then showed me that by submitting to the man I was married to who was not the man of God he claimed to be, but rather I had been submitting to the demons in him. That was an easy exit for me. One month later I was gone with my daughter and with an order of protection in hand. I created a video where I also tell my story. That was 16 yrs ago.

[@lindaorozco4595]

HOW SHAMEFUL FOR A PASTOR TO HURT HIS WIFE AND MORE SO THE LEADERS TO TURN THIER BACKS ON HER 😡😡😡

[@bettycarmella1127]

God bless this precious sister and her children🙏🏽💔

[@theden-jimdill7037]

In the midst of these men who didn’t support you, I’m glad to hear that your pastor did.

[@coreylen5548]

The end where Franklin is on the call with her makes me sick....he is talking down to her and dismissive. She should never apologize to anyone. Not Franklin or her sick and demented ex

[@deborah3912]

Franklin Graham is a disgrace!

[@RobertGareau-z2b]

@@deborah3912 I agree. I wish franklin graham would stop acting like he is the judge of everything and everyone. I tired of hearing franklin judge everybody and he needs to shut the hell up. I can't stand him anymore

[@Grammichal]

@@RobertGareau-z2b I hope his wonderful sister Anne Graham Lotz takes him to task! I believe he has said she is the best preacher in the family. It’s wonderful she gave such great advice to Naghmeh! 🕊️🤍🙌🏼

[@wtan5814]

Franklin is bad news like father like son

[@gigglyme2001]

@@wtan5814why do you call his father bad?

[@michaelmcintosh8599]

Woww, as Christian counsellor and teacher of the word, I strongly believe that once a man abuses his wife he is no longer functioning as a husband. The word says "Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the church, hence he cannot be functioning as a husband abusing her. I believe that's grounds for leaving. We must understand Jesus' teaching in context of culture and balance it with what Paul also taught. Paul never taught that only sexual unfaithfulness is grounds for divorce. Even if he wasn't sexually unfaithful his constant abuse if legitimate grounds.

[@stephaniemermigas4563]

Powerful. I remember this story bu not this side of the story or any of this side. I’m saddened the church didn’t listen or help you. So sorry Naghmeh that this happened to you. I can only say thank the Lord that he gave you strength to leave, stand and wisdom/ discernment to help others who are dealing with the same circumstances. Thank you for sharing and may God bless you and your children richly.

[@sagrammyfour]

There should be NO MEGACHURCHS. NONE. Excessive travel, the adoration of leaders, obsession with money, and the destruction of family life and marriage are the result. There should be small churches, groups and home Bible study. Put your trus in and loyalty to God, not man.

[@susannabonke8552]

And you think there's no mess in small groups??? This is not a question of size.

[@tamaramarrone]

Nagmeh popped in my head today. I hadn't thought about her for years after the truth came out about Saeed. I just googled her to see if there was and update after all these years. I'm so glad I found this because I finally got to hear Nagmeh's side of the story. I'm so glad I found this video!

[@kristinstrickland1038]

Same!!

[@imlistening3021]

About 31:59 Naghmeh said, "I don't know why, except for God's sovereignty in all of this and allowing it." This is one of the wrong understandings prevalent in Christianity and I used to be under that wrong teaching-well, we both went to Calvary Chapel Boise, so I get where she came into that because I did too. The thing is, none of this horror that Naghmeh and her children suffered was God's will. We sometimes think God is allowing things or that it's His will that these terrible things happen to us. NO bashing Naghmeh AT ALL, but she said she knew the Holy Spirit was telling her not to be with Saeed when they were dating-numerous times-but she continued as he was destroying her self worth and the abuse was starting. That's not God's will or sovereignty in all of this. God doesn't want us to be abused in any way shape or form-and if you're in an abusive relationship, God doesn't want you hurt or killed!! Ask God to make a safe way out and get out!! I think the Holy Spirit was telling her over these times to leave-she even knew the dog was in danger and she took measures to protect the dog by rehoming. But she was so beaten down (lies of the enemy coming through Saeed and attacking her mind) that she wasn't hearing or following that inner voice of the Spirit. Again, NO condemnation to this precious lady!! When she called out to God to help her when Saeed was going to beat her, he stopped! God has given us a choice to follow Him or not (and I mean beyond our salvation experience), invite Him to work or not. He absolutely wants to help us, but He needs us to invite Him to work. When she invited God in to help, He intervened so Saeed didn't hit her! He wants to help us, but are we asking Him to help and are we listening to Him when He directs us about what to do? God is not sovereignly dishing out evil to grow us up into good little Christians and I think we've misunderstood this so very much in the Church. There is a phenomenal teaching I heard a while back that Andrew Wommack did that cleared this up for me: 'The True Nature of God' www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/?teaching=the-true-nature-of-god If we have this wrong understanding, then we allow the devil to work all kinds of vile stuff in our lives and we submit to it thinking that God is allowing it for some grand purpose or even worse that He put us in that situation. No! He wants you loved, safe, blessed, whole, healed, strong, full of His peace, joy, being led by His wisdom daily and His leadership to right paths of goodness in your life! God is for you, not against you! I doubt very much that Saeed was even born again-I guess God knows his heart, but he is a man who is very deceived and a man who the devil is trying to destroy and destroy everyone around him that he can. Classic Satan. I believe Saeed was more ruled by the devil that we saw any evidence of Christ in his life-some of the things he did to his wife and her family were utterly demonic. Saeed needs to come to the Jesus and truly surrender his life and let Him change him on the inside and make him new. Praying now that he be set free from his spiritual captivity that is far worse than any physical captivity! And praying for lovely Naghmeh and her family-I remember them at Calvary-that they truly heal from this trauma as Jesus walks them through to wholeness! God wants to write the good chapters He intended for their lives and restore her and her children completely! God's blessings be on them!! On a side note, I think we as Christians need to be thinking about the politicians and church leaders around us. Are they acting for themselves and their own agenda, or are they listening and following God humbly and seeking Him? God is the one who should promote us, not we ourselves. We should follow God, not human intellect or man-made religion! I see this too much among so called conservative politicians that pander for the Christian vote yet display very little evidence of knowing God or any interest in behaving in a Christ-like manner. The body of Christ has also become contentious and vile many times as they've elevated their favorite political heroes as though they are truly their savior and not Jesus. It should not be. We wonder why these people fall... Is it that they have no foundation in God in the first place?

[@annebalderston2520]

🙏🏻🕊️

[@joterska9793]

Thank You!!

[@deenagibson8121]

I saw too much of man in the churches today. Not enough about the move of the Holy Spitit. Do I stopped going. The services were the same every week you could set your watch on what was coming next. Too structured. I watch some services on TV. But at home I can shout clap and really worship my Lord without bothering anyone. It’s wonderful. Today it’s very hard to trust anyone. Even church goers. They are all wrapped up in themselves. Too busy with secular things of this world. I just cling to Jesus and stay busy for Him. There’s nothing new under the Sun. Jesus said trust no man and I guess that’s means your man or wife. He was so right. And His word is always right. Amen.

[@lornadoone8887]

Saeed was controlled by demons. False Christian, driven by his sinful passions, lust and demonic pride/cruelty. So scary! It’s frightening how easily we dismiss Jesus’ teachings that we will know the true nature of leaders by their *fruit*. When are we going to understand that professing to be a believer minus any fruit of the Holy Spirit = a blasphemous LIE!

[@Grammichal]

⁠ There’s a whole organization of people who “Stand for Your Marriage.” Yes, God hates divorce but I believe He hates lousy marriages as well. Marriage is supposed to represent the union of Christ and the church. Abusive marriages are an afront to God’s plan.

[@PaulBurdo]

You are BOTH Proverbs 31 women, HONORING Christ, HONORING your husbands, (silence of a wife in abuse IS NOT LOVING toward a husband in sin). Holding a husband accountable IS LOVING! Excellent examples of “a helper suitable”, in Genesis 2.18, where “helper” is the Hebrew word ‘ezer’ and means ‘one who helps from a superior position’ (mostly used in reference to God Himself), and ‘suitable’ means ‘other side’ NOT ‘same side’; ‘opposite’ not ‘with’, and against not same, ‘in front of’ not ‘behind’, and ‘resist’ not ‘assist’… SOUNDS LIKE SHE’S HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE! ( ever hear a sermon on THAT!). It’s just we men don’t like God’s design, to be held accountable by our sisters! May God increase His blessings upon you both!

[@mlcarl9008]

So sad. Thank you for what you do, Julie.

[@aldocardenas3282]

Thank you Julie for exposing the manipulation and abuse behind the pulpits.

[@zzadoKK]

Time for the Mega Church to die and go away.

[@MyJesusLovesAndSaves]

Dear Naghmeh, May Jesus bless you for your courage and keep & protect you and your children!- For the benefit of so many abused!- Prayers and blessings from your sister in Denmark❣💒🏞🥰🙋‍♀️

[@JoshuaPatrickGarrett]

Wow. I remember when I prayed with my house church for his release, thinking he was a real believer suffering for the faith. I see that the Lord is leading many of His people, at least me, to have more air-tight presuppositions.

[@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044]

He let the abuse change him

[@kevinreddington4251]

Julie it’s a tough road but thank you for choosing the path of truth no matter what.

[@CCarrara-m8i]

Shame on those pastors. Easy to be that compassion-less when it doesn’t affect them. Shame shame shame This woman, God bless her

[@mollymuch2808]

The command to touch not God’s anointed is found in two places in Scripture: “Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm” (1 Chronicles 16:22; Psalm 105:15). These passages are sometimes used in Pentecostal and Charismatic circles to defend certain preachers from criticism. Preachers who promote themselves or their ministries as “anointed” warn their would-be critics, “Do not touch God’s anointed!” Of course, this helps to insulate them from scrutiny and allows them to spread falsehood and bad theology unrestrained.

[@susettemclachlan8765]

I hope her testimony helps other women in the same situation to be strong and to leave immediately for their own safety

[@cathywestholt5324]

When my abusive ex tried to kill me and after his failed attempt he filed for divorce, I was told by my church I had to leave. My husband was ok, however. They even knew of his desire to kill me before I did and said nothing.

[@AMcDub0708]

I’m so sorry. However, your church sounds like a cult. Better you got out.

[@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044]

My mothers first husband tried to kill her, a pastors son who had drug addiction. We need to pray for pastors children because they too struggle

[@susannabonke8552]

It sucks.

[@susannabonke8552]

​@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 what about the victims?

[@PyrPupMom]

That "place" does not deserve to be called a church.

[@moniquewrites9046]

She has grounds to leave scripturally porn is sex outside of the marriage and sex abuse within a marriage is sexually immoral.

[@davidbusk2255]

So proud of Nagmeh and her courage, excellent interview Julie

[@susettemclachlan8765]

Amazing that she didn’t recognise how evil he was from his initial treatment of her

[@susettemclachlan8765]

When you send something out to 100 people YOU LEAKED IT !

[@sdhjirhgh]

HER HUSBAND IS A NARCISSIST, POOR GIRL, THANK GOD SHE HAS JESUS FOR HER STRENGTH.

[@susannabonke8552]

You do the work of Christ in giving a voice to those who suffer injustice. Abuse in churches is an issue.

[@IMOO1896]

Thenk you Julie, for speaking up, when no one else will.

[@graceotoole2467]

I am appalled, she is a victim, I remember this story so well, wonder how she is doing today November 2024. Thank you highlighting & reporting the wrongs that is going on, it must be dealt with. You are brave lady!

[@Susan-f5u]

Lately I’ve been mulling over the thought that because Jesus died and rose again for sinners, and God is long suffering in holding off His return and judgment, it doesn’t mean that God cares less about sin now, especially in a professing believer. Keep one’s eyes on Christ and His Word. He will not fail, but human frailty will eventually disappoint looking at men.

[@margokupelian344]

And I prayed for this man at that time to be released from prison. Wow! The man is a monster to say the least.

[@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044]

We need to continue to pray for him

[@amelian9677]

@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044how about no.

[@patchr5491]

Men of the church , pastors devalue women. Just appalling!!!😭

[@margorod5470]

The Devil is not afraid of a divided Church, his afraid of a United Church in Christ! ✝️👑 🕊️ The Apostle Paul also writes in the book of Ephesians 5:28-30: “In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church- for we are members of H inis body..."

[@marydickey3404]

This book was so encouraging for those women who find themselves inside an abusive relationship from verbal, emotional, and sexually addicted husbands.

[@judiking4579]

“There is a sin to silence” Bravo for you coming forward with the truth as to what happened to you….So, over this stuff in the Christian community…God Bless and keep you🙏🙏🙏

[@PaulBurdo]

What excellent examples of biblical submission you both demonstrate. “Submit“, the Greek word “hupatasso“, according to Strongs concordance means “to place under“, (ie support, or cooperate with). But submission is not biblical submission, unless it’s supporting a biblical mission, (ie God’s mission for the man, NOT HIS OWN MISSION)! (when’s the last time you heard a sermon on THAT)! You both obviously understand AND practice this)! May God raise up MORE godly women who will follow your Biblical examples!

[@Grammichal]

MUTUAL submission! The “headship” movement is really dangerous! Much abuse is justified by this model and if you think about it, it’s not that much different from what goes on in the Middle East. When I stand before the Lord, I will answer to Him not point fingers at my husband. Ex-husband that is- A malignant narcissist who swept me away with his guise of Christian ministry.

[@Susan-f5u]

“The Son of Hamas”, who was touted by a book promotion and made the rounds in Christian circles, was recently on a FOX news interview segment stated he had not left being a Muslim to become a Christian but told how he was treated by Hamas as his father was a founder. Money can be made in the USA in Christian circles. Even “Christian” music is a billion dollar business run by the secular. At 74, I’ve observed a lot that is discouraging and is fodder for an evil secular world looking for salacious stories to discredit Christians. Stay in His Word and keep the eyes on Christ Himself.

[@mollymuch2808]

Who are they fooling We are all on a banana peel Every breath we take is a gift from God

[@amaz-ing3376]

Thank you. Stay in The Word and keep the eyes on Jesus Himself.

[@EPHESIANS_5..11__Lady]

Mosαb Hαssαn Yousef has long been a 🆕 αger. I know he has suffered a lot and lots of people trapped in the 🆕 αge are trαumα sur√i√ors (they want to be their own god). What still concerns me is the fact that so many professing Christians continue to lionize him and consider him as a Christian, godly man/man of God, or an example for other Christians to follow even though he already blatantly denied the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished redemptive work in a synαgogue at the end of last year.

[@Francine1117]

I believe Naghme! Thank you for sharing!❤

[@ejr2002]

Like many others, I prayed for Saeed and was astounded when the story of his abuse came out. I hoped he had learned from his time in prison,but thus far it seems he has not. I am sorry.

[@annebalderston2520]

He didn’t get nearly enough time in prison. I wonder if he ever truly believed in the Lord.🙏🏻

[@jfward777]

This interview is so good and so important for this generation. Thank you, Julie, for taking the time to expose the truth. You are truly a truth teller!

[@davedee4382]

Jesus Christ is not behind this abuse. Jesus treated women well. Why don’t many men who are “in the church”?

[@susannabonke8552]

Because they CAN.. people are lazy and move on as usual..

[@chrissybloulam2585]

Because they're not real Christians, they're just playing a little game.

[@rettpanda6203]

No idea you had a YT channel I became a fan after your john Macarthur/ Eileen Gray story... you are an awesome woman and I am so thankful for your diligence in fighting for the truth. P.s. I am not a feminist, lol. Just sick of these lies and crimes happening in the church

[@Himmiefan]

A feminist is one who sees women as being equal in value with men.

[@rettpanda6203]

@@Himmiefan a feminist is a woman who sees herself better than men

[@broco6608]

​@@Himmiefan Then Jesus and Paul are feminists.

[@tammiecanada5837]

God bless her and her precious children. And yes, I was called crazy by my ex husband too. Satan has no new tactics!

[@kingsman8475]

Franklin Graham has done zero for the Palestinian Christians. His father would be ashamed.

[@ceceespejo5164]

I am glad this is bring to the light. Thank you for exposing this

[@53lyric1]

Maybe Saeed being put in an Iranian prison was the best thing that could have happened. God moved in a very deliberate way to bring down a fake Christian. One question I have is, when did he start training with Hezbollah? That should have been reported as soon as it was discovered. So glad she got away from that evil, wicked creature.

[@deborahwilcox5716]

I saw her speak at Calvary Chapel in Newport. I am so sorry this has happened to her. I lived through it myself and the most “Christian” people that should have supported me condemned me. My husband was not a minister, but could impress anyone with his prayers and drama stories. I was forced to disappear as much as I could. I have so much respect for her. I am sorry he has not come forward and repented. My question: Do you think he is a Christian? I know only God knows our hearts and only He is the judge. But, what do you think?

[@susannabonke8552]

Who decides if someone is a believer? Only god knows the heart.

[@chrissybloulam2585]

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

[@DEJ.BiblicalProductions]

Wow thank you for bringing this content. I longed to see that you put your podcast to video. I am excited for many more. Lord willing, maybe you will be able to bring some live interviews sometime. Blessings.

[@mavismalpenny3782]

Wow! thats really sad. Hope that man repents. Not impressed with F Graham. He has NO discernment like his father!

[@lornadoone8887]

If you knew the character of all the powerful people (Presidents) the father was “pastor” to who never showed repentance from truly evil behavior (kind of like Jim Bakker who went right back to swindling the gullible with his false repentance and false teaching when released from prison after “ministry” from BG), you might see a greater resemblance than difference between father and son than most would want to admit. I used to think highly of BG because of his winsome public persona. Then I read his autobiography, and his overly ingratiating attitude in the picture he paints there of all the US Presidents he served under (even ones as unscrupulous and evil as LBJ) and his easy access to the halls of power gave me pause….How many prophets in the OT or Apostles in the New were chummy with the political authorities in their day?

[@BreezeWithAfrica]

I remember him I was praying for him. How sad that he was abusive towards her and they didn’t handle it appropriate.

[@susannabonke8552]

Who is they and what would you do when there is physical violence of that amount?

[@chin579]

Praying for God's true healing in Saeed's life. It's terrible to be lifted up so high like that and then be the instrument of wickedness and abuse and not see how wrong he is. God knows how to heal people and He rescued Nagmeh against her own will so she can be healed. I grew up in church and knew about the Lord for years and years, but not until I started listening to the Lord's dealings with me did I really change. I had such anger issue and if I had been a man I would've have been as bad as Saeed. My anger consumed me and at times I would just snap and not know or even remember why what I said or did were wrong. I was so unhappy. An abuser is not an abuser for nothing. They need healing too. But the Lord delivered me because I started listening to His dealings with me and started acknowledging my sins. Praying for both parties, especially for Saeed or he is lost.

[@susannabonke8552]

Okay but how about the children? Do you idolize that "perfect victims" of the Muslim Republic? Why do you care for such a lad?

[@SG-jv5zi]

Revealing sin and holding people to righteous judgement is what His people should be doing. Yes forgiveness and mercy come, but once justice is served.

[@VR-fs1lo]

Nagmeh, thank you.

[@sdh4557]

I remember this story.. I’m glad to finally hear her side of the story.

[@leilaniaki344]

I hope young Christian girls learn from this that they hang on to God and listen to the Holy Spirit’s prompting before they make poor choices, before they they say yes. Had the Christian world known from the beginning about your abusive husband he would still be in prison where he belong. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@joy-joy8675]

Thank you for standing with truth where ever it leads you.

[@ivanasimic2072]

God bless you both for courage!!! Enough is enough, no more silence

[@endtimesareuponus2249]

Naghmeh, I know this comment comes after the fact. But I just want to say thank you, sister, for being an incredible woman of God.

[@tedbrooks-formerwordoffait1316]

Echoes of Dr. Dobson's broadcasts... fearful wife was to stay with husband.. even if she feared for her life... Dobson said she will go to heaven if she was killed by her husband... but she was to stay in that awful marriage

[@annebalderston2520]

Dr. Dobson said many things that were wrong. He told about how he beat his little dog because he wouldn’t get in his bed. I was shocked by his behavior.💔🙏🏻

[@camillewilliams3185]

It's so sad to hear Naghmeh's story. I'm glad she got out and is sharing her story. The truth is so many churches don't know how to properly respond to domestic abuse. And as we know the same is true of society in general. But there's always greater expectation that the body of Christ will do what's right and not encourage people to remain in unsafe relationships. Abuse is unloving and unchristian. In Naghmeh's case, a husband that beats his wife violates the New Testament command for husband's to love their wives as Christ loved the Church.

[@Grammichal]

⁠There’s a whole organization of people who “Stand for Your Marriage.” Yes, God hates divorce but I believe He hates lousy marriages as well. Marriage is supposed to represent the union of Christ and the church. Abusive marriages are an afront to God’s plan.

[@manuelag2128]

Where do elders get corrected in front of the sheep, they hurt with their sin? It is an order from the bible to do so!!!! No more money and honour for anyone abusing the spirit ,soul and body, in his trusted position , and any anabler. No more for me.

[@Angel-tt8tq]

This is why all Christians need deliverance and inner healing. And it can be hard to figure out what's going in a marriage because people hide things so well. Ministers often don't know what to believe and need Holy Spirit to discern what is truly going on behind closed doors. God bless this woman and her children and bring this man to repentance so his life can be restored. 🙏🏼🔥☝🏼

[@jesuslovesjudy]

Bless you❤

[@vpruneda5180]

I remember reading about him years ago and gave money to Jay Sekoulo. But i never knew the outcome until today coming across this video. Im so sorry this happened to you! I'm glad you are ok now. Praise the Lord. Thank you for sharing your story.

[@hzlkelly]

Total narcissist. My ex was very much the same way.

[@debbiesmithmcconnell9889]

I Love Nagmeh always !!!

[@mistiroberts1576]

People who go to Iran as missionaries are my heros

[@pamelagonzalez8916]

Just heard of this because of ihop scandal. Thank you for being brave. No the whole of the body of Christ is not this! We love you we support you!❤❤❤ I realized I have lived like this. There was a brain tumor but there was the rage and anger not explained all the way. ❤

[@susannabonke8552]

I am happy you finally got the right disgnose. Hope you could recover. ❤

[@sherylbrown3811]

What a brave woman!! I am personally so frustrated with all these stories of Pastors engaging in the abuse of woman!! Ephesians is about men being Christ like Spiritual leaders - not abuse, bullying and manipulation. How is that the will of God. When was the last time God bullied, controlled or manipulated a human!! I am sone with the Christian women need to just take it because the man is the head. No! The man is the Spiritual leader!! He sacrifices and loves his wife and family like Christ does! The woman respects his leadership and follows his Godly lead! This does not mean abuse or control!! That is not biblical! Christian women- please- how could this be Gods will?

[@Himmiefan]

Actually, the Bible doesn’t say that the man is the spiritual head. That has been read into the text. Since we must reconcile all of Paul’s teachings with Christ, the Ephesian verses are all about loving one another (mutual submission) and not hierarchy or who is the boss/leader.

[@susettemclachlan8765]

I also prayed for Saeed’s release

[@markt2568]

Great work, just found your KZbin channel

[@1966marmar]

I would love an update on this.

[@katcraig7525]

Wow. I remember praying for this dude to be released from prison. Looks he was exactly where he needed to be.