The Rules of Curling - EXPLAINED!

[@NinhLyUK]

EDIT: 20.02.22 - The lady in the picture and featured in this video (Eve Muirhead) just WON GOLD BABY! 🏅 4th time of asking and after countless heartbreaks, she and her rink shows the world that anything is possible with determination! Good job Team GB Girls! 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

[@IAmAlgolei]

Congrats to the Brits!

[@OtakuLogan2017]

Two of the team members are from my hometown of Perth so proud of them :)

[@madfut22sahilhussain45]

Time travel

[@mandiigraham1596]

I have been watching this sport on the 2022 Winter Olympics. I have never been interested but after a while I started asking questions that no one could answer. Thank you for this video. It has helped me appreciate the skill required in this sport.

[@topmodelstacyann9242]

Same!!!

[@cyclenutter2715]

Same ;)

[@hotdogwater8520]

Same

[@annieashdown8970]

Same here!!! This was so informative and made watching it now much less frustrating lol

[@kirkmadeindetroit]

This straight forward, easy to understand description made watching Olympic curling so much more enjoyable! I really appreciate that there are no unnecessary sarcastic or "comedic" comments. Thank you!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Kirk, glad this video helps you understand Curling!

[@4Scallys]

I am currently watching the 2022 Olympics and this comment is still relevant!

[@jacktastic715]

Same here I’ve always liked watching but never understood one minute of it except the sweeping…

[@topmodelstacyann9242]

Same!

[@thesoundsmith]

@@jacktastic715 Funny, the sweeping was the part I did not understand. But I did not know the ice was pebbled, but I still can't see the 'curl...' But also thanks, Ninh, well presented.

[@Turbo9987]

Wow. I didn't realize how complex curling actually is! Seems like fun though.

[@NinhLyUK]

+Turbo9987 Thanks man, I appreciate the comments. Curling is cool and once you understand it, it becomes mesmerising to watch. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)

[@jimbaritone6429]

It's usually a lot of fun, whether you are winning or losing - at the level i play at, anyway. For professional curlers, it's more passion than fun, I think (just my guess). Besides, playing in a mixed league has always been a great way to meet some pretty women :-)

[@seanleith5312]

Why is it called a stone, not a rock?

[@GeldorfMcleod]

@@seanleith5312 because a stone is all polished. and a rock. well it isn't . a stone is a rock polished . maybe by the sea or some other factor. humans

[@danielguzman8421]

How is that fun smh

[@richardtibbitts3841]

Finally, somebody explains this. Thank you, Ninh Ly!

[@NinhLyUK]

Great! Glad this video helps! Check out my channel for more like this :)

[@leonelcorrales8196]

thanks man I've been wondering about this sport for ages

[@NinhLyUK]

+leonel corrales Thanks Leonel, I appreciate the comments. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)

[@sharonmoravits5627]

I am currently watching Olympic Curling. This has helped tremendously! Thank you! I understand it better now and will enjoy it even more.

[@lydwinaofschiedam2685]

The first time I've had any understanding of the sport! Thanks for the very clear and simple explanation.

[@NinhLyUK]

+Gibby Cates You're welcome Gibby, I'm glad you approve of this Curling video and that it was helpful to you. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)

[@KelvinJawa]

Curling is my favourite Winter Olympics event but I have never understood it until now. Thank you for explaining it concisely and clearly.

[@NinhLyUK]

Anytime Kelvin! Much appreciated!

[@purejb]

I've always enjoyed watching it, as one of my favorite Winter Olympics event. But even with all my watching experience and commentators I could never really grasp what's happening! Thx to you, I GET IT 😄!

[@NinhLyUK]

Awesome! Glad this video helps you understand Curling! :)

[@chronicallyfearless9655]

I'm a new wheelchair curler and this was really helpful- even if WE do it without needing any sweeping 😉 We don't talk a lot about rules and that at practice and ours are a bit different than yours, but with my first provincial throw down coming up, this will help! Too bad we don't have one... yet.... (it would be fun and an interesting project!)- just sayin'.😆 Anyways, thank you for making this!!

[@NinhLyUK]

+ChronicallyFearless You're welcome! Thank you so much for the kind comments, and once again, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)

[@mariewinslow9166]

Excellent, thorough explanation of the sport. Easily understandable by those who have never seen the sport before.

[@winstonsmith11]

Thanks. I'd picked up on some of this before, but this was very informative. This is my favorite winter game to watch. Can't wait to watch again, knowing the game a bit better now.

[@NinhLyUK]

Cool, thanks! Winter Olympics - now's the time to watch the Curling. It's pretty cool!

[@berlintanker]

Do you like playing hide the salami??? 🐓

[@kimberleyewart3635]

Adam Barnett

[@kimberleyewart3635]

Adam Barnett nnn

[@100actsoflove6]

Great explanation of curling. I had no idea it was so complex. Thank you!

[@NinhLyUK]

Anytime, glad you found this video helpful :)

[@bQ5rL3m6D]

As an American, I never knew the complexity of this game and THANK YOU for being straight-forward and concise with this video especially your visual examples; they're perfect. Thanks again. Good karma your way.

[@NinhLyUK]

+tommydags1 Thanks again man - a lot of people don't get Curling, so I tried to make it simple with this video :)

[@arottie4097]

W0W! Glad there wasn't a Quiz @ the end of this video! Ha!

[@danitewatchman6538]

Never really understood the strategy of Curling. This video helped immensely. Now I can watch the Olympics and understand what is occurring. Watched other videos, but this one made the best sense for me Thanks

[@NinhLyUK]

Awesome, glad this video helps you understand Curling!

[@janhays916]

And to the maker of this video, a BIG Thank You for making it! Make more and more "how-to's" on ALL popular sports. You understand how to lay it all out so anyone understands.

[@jh_esports]

This sport is so underrated. I genuinely love watching it, especially during the Olympics.

[@pippinrocks]

Got my partner watching for the first time at Beijing and this totally helped us both to understand the rules!

[@edthompson2099]

They are holding a tournament in my hometown this weekend, and national trials for the Olympics in November, so we went to watch a few matches. Most of the rules are kind of self evident, as is the scoring, but I didn't know what the timers were for, or if there was a penalty for touching a stone while sweeping. Thanks for the clear explanations.

[@NinhLyUK]

You're welcome Ed, I'm glad you found this video helpful in learning Curling. Enjoy your tournament!

[@Dragon_Heat.]

Amazing video thnx ❤

[@nonyabussiness6920]

But why are all of the players so good looking? Like every single one of them.

[@NinhLyUK]

I dunno actually?! It certainly seems to be the case that they're handsome or pretty.

[@nonyabussiness6920]

It's so strange!

[@marsjaatelo5697]

Nah, not every single one. Many of them yes! But definetly not all

[@enrichking639]

They are daughters of ZEUS.

[@SmiTTyy-sh8nc]

Like the sign outside of a gentleman's club reads " The home of 100's of beautiful girl's.... And 3 ugly ones !!! " LOL

[@janw7536]

Am watching curling Olympic trials and went to your video to finally be able to understand what I am watching. Thank you! Very helpful.

[@NinhLyUK]

Awesome, thanks Jan. Glad this video helps you understand Curling!

[@Woody615]

COOL, thank you. So the rings of the "house" are basically to show the distance from the "button". Unlike shuffle board or archery, there is no point difference based on which ring the stone comes to rest in.

[@NinhLyUK]

Correct! The rings are there to judge the distance from the middle of the button - they don't award different levels of points. Glad this helps you understand Curling!

[@bryannewcombe858]

Ever play Crokinole? It scores the same way.

[@plusplusplusplusp]

Thanks a lot for explaning all these different sports. Your channel is a good resource

[@NinhLyUK]

plusplusplusplusp You're welcome man! Sadly I'm running out of mainstream sports so I'll shortly be making videos about some of the more obscure sports. New episodes generally appear every Friday at 20:00 GMT, so once again - be sure to subscribe (and share) so that you don't miss any! :)

[@michaeldailey7103]

Thank you !! Great sport for both men and women .

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks bro, much appreciated!

[@reedr7142]

I was hooked on curling ever since I first saw it as a middle-schooler. We bought the table top stones, and used rocks to play outside. Only in my adulthood was I able to play for real. It's such a joy to watch and play. And I appreciate the camaraderie and sportsmanship--something that's not evident in a number of mainstream sports.

[@LUKESTRONG4LIFE]

Nice video. Most stones are actually 42 pounds, but must be between 38 and 44 pounds, due to the variations in granite. Most of the granite comes from Ailsa Craig, an island off the coast of Scotland. Thanks again for the video.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks man, I appreciate it!

[@AustinJASMR]

My dad recently watched the Olympic trials for this a few weeks ago. Thing is, he knew *nothing* about it. I ended up having to explain it to him, thanks to this video.

[@spiveym]

Anyone ever notice how attractive all the women's curling team members are? I hear the Russian women's Olympic team has their own calendar

[@NinhLyUK]

Yes, I've noticed that Curling girls are quite pretty. I didn't know that about Russian women's ... might have to check that out. Thanks for stopping by.

[@GaryTurbo]

There's alot of attractive female curlers

[@countalucard4226]

Anna Sidorova is an actual Russian model

[@presw2pw123]

Oh jeez. Eve Muirhead. Wowsa

[@merccadoosis8847]

yes, curling girls are very pretty and highly talented, too

[@BillyWhaler]

Ah, now I get it. Watched the worlds from Vegas and didn't quite understand it. Great job explaining the roles of the lead, 2nd, 3rd and Skip and what to watch for. And the damn hammer.

[@NinhLyUK]

Cool, thanks Doug. Glad this video helps you out.

[@troe2339]

Yay Denmark is in the video, and as a true annoying Dane on the internet I have to write it in the comments :)

[@shobhit2197]

Troels V :)

[@TheWerequat]

LOL!

[@hugonordin]

Jävla dansk igen

[@karl5213]

@@hugonordin your profile pick looks like an unsuccessful grinch

[@soniavey5537]

Thank you for your easy to understand Curling rules. Liked to watch it but never understood it before.

[@DannyTheConsumer]

I'm actually very interested now. Thank you

[@NinhLyUK]

Dannymartialarts You're welcome brother! If you've got any questions about Curling, feel free to ask and I'll try and help you as best as possible. And be sure to share this video and subscribe :)

[@ZBTEproductions]

If you find it interesting and have a curling club nearby, they sometimes have events for people to try the sport. I recommend it, I've played it for years.

[@adrielt]

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I will be trying this next week.

[@NinhLyUK]

Great! Hope this video helps. Good luck Curling!

[@jc2333]

It's good but I'm still confused on curling.

[@NinhLyUK]

I suggest watching a few games and the rules in this video will become clear.

[@sheripresloid7839]

I have been fascinated with this game. I love all sports and want to KNOW what I am watching. This was great. I paused it many times to let it sink in. Thank you for this! I am sure, just like hockey, I will know all the rules eventually! LOL

[@alikaostermiller]

this music tho

[@NinhLyUK]

Yeah in hindsight, not my best choice in music.

[@cmsmith1961]

I’m watching curling at the Beijing Olympics right now and had no idea WTF they were doing or why. Your video really helped me make sense of it. Thank you.

[@bradleymacklin7896]

curling is Scottish?! dude its huge here in canada. i always thought it was canadian. we have the scotties tournament of hearts. scotties as in the toilet paper company

[@NinhLyUK]

Curling is definitely 100% Scottish! The fact that Scotties sponsor the Tournament of Hearts is purely coincidental!

[@LonPeper]

There is evidence of curling roots in Germany prior to its beginning in Scotland. Scotland does get credit for getting it going and creating the rules of the game. I'm thinking Bradley is one of those Canadians who watches the Scotties and Brier, but has never curled himself.

[@bradleymacklin7896]

I've been curling a few times as its very popular here in NWO. i'm definitely not good at it, and yes i love watching curling

[@bcubed72]

Scots are big into rocks: lifting 'em, throwing 'em, sliding 'em on the ice.

[@darlenegreywolf7330]

bcubed72 don't forget the caber toss! Basically throwing a telephone pole!

[@ratnesrajah]

I didn’t knew anything about this game and now understood by listening your video. I will Leeann more by watching the game as you said. Thanks

[@gmc9753]

Is it true the North Korean curling team has to swim with their stones if they don't win a medal?

[@NinhLyUK]

I don't think so, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually true.

[@konepe1653]

Does north korea even have a curling team?

[@TheWickedWizardOfOz1]

@@konepe1653 You may as well be saying the Maltese kabaddi team :D

[@danieldiggsmedia]

Easiest to understand explanation I've ever heard. Thank you!

[@xygomorphic44]

They are pretty good looking. But let's admit it, there no way anyone can please them in the bedroom given how accurate they are with that sweeping and rock placement.

[@NinhLyUK]

I'm not sure about that?!

[@GRIMRPR6942]

If something isnt right, im sure they could holler enough to get what they want. HARDER....LEFT.......RIGHT....STOP!!! LOL

[@snooglepuff-1515]

Great video and very informative. I didnt understand all the rules before, but still enjoyed watching the game. Thanks for this video.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks, much appreciated! Glad this video helps. Subscribe and check out my channel for more content like this :)

[@dylansalviati4240]

You missed the Free Gaurd Zone

[@lkeke35]

Very informative. The game is fascinating to watch, too.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks, glad you liked the video!

[@atharvakamat3003]

How is there an injury in this 😂😂

[@NinhLyUK]

Ummm, slip and fall on the ice?! Pulled muscles?

[@KTLP7912]

The 5th player very rarely actually enters any games however they are allowed to replace anyone at the end of any end. They often end up reading each of the rocks on the ice as no two rocks will act exactly the same.

[@ricoshaye5745]

Headache every time you lose

[@MasterPoppers]

a k Falling on the ice. It doesn't always result in injury, but if you fall in front of a moving rock or onto a rock, then it can cause problems.

[@KTLP7912]

The only curling injuries I've ever seen have been a result of falling on a rock or falling and hitting their head on the boards. Or do what I did when I was 5 and get your thumb crushed between a rock and the boards :(

[@reserve161]

Thank you for a nice explanation. We were watching curling last night and we're trying to figure out the rules from the commentary.

[@NinhLyUK]

Anytime Bryan, glad you found this video on Curling helpful!

[@71vegaman93]

Why is this an Olympic sport ?

[@NinhLyUK]

Cos it's awesome!

[@MasterPoppers]

Why is anything an Olympic sport?

[@mescko]

If you've ever watched olympic-level table tennis (or badminton--!!), you wouldn't ask that again. 99.9% of us would be run *ragged* in two minutes. Not to mention topspin, backspin...

[@MasterPoppers]

mescko Exactly. It requires physical effort and is highly competitive. The same could be said for curling. While curling doesn't require nearly as much physical effort as other sports, sweeping can actually be draining.

[@matthewlaurence3121]

Curling is far from being the most ridiculous sport at an Olympic tournament. Table tennis, poodle shearing, mountaineering, walking, poetry, painting, chess and body building, et cetera. Don't even get me started with these childish runs they keep inventing for snowboarders every 'Games.

[@arleengomez7588]

Thank you for making this video it was very helpful and simple to follow now I can watch the curling and not be bored

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Arleen, much appreciated!

[@LaitoChen]

Are all curling chics this cute? like geez

[@NinhLyUK]

Some of them are pretty cute, yes.

[@PirateCommander]

Look up Russian Curler Calendar, if you wanna see how sexy Curling got recently ...

[@theloniousm4337]

When it comes to cute it is tough to beat Team Fujisawa from Japan.

[@rickyzhangnan]

Stu I think now you are the best foreigner curler that lives in China. good job!

[@Aimless_Guy]

Never knew it was a Scottish sport. I've always thought it was Finnish or Danish. Great videos by the way.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks! And yes, it's Scottish, which is surprising!

[@sandrajkmagruder5310]

I had no clue. Not easy. You really explained it well. Thanks.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Sandra, glad you found this video useful.

[@johnkuhn63]

Awesome video. I finally took the time to understand this sport and this video did the job for me in less than 5 minutes!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks John, I'm glad this video helps you understand Curling.

[@emilyfurda]

Thank you for explaining this so well. It was fun to watch and informative!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Emily, glad you found this video helpful! Be sure to check out my channel for more like this.

[@losgatossonmuychidos]

THANK YOU! Finally understand a sport absolutely incredible to watch. I can’t play it tho because I live in México. Great vid!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks, glad you like this video. Check out my channel for more like this :)

[@kennyamr5]

Ty for this. Needed an explanation of this. :p

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Kenny, glad this video helps you out!

[@4july99]

That explains quite a few of the things that were baffling me, thank you. Wish I’d watched it a week ago!

[@bidgoodr]

Very helpful. NBC should have shown this before each of their broadcasts.

[@NinhLyUK]

Ah, thanks Rick - that's very kind of you!

[@julieforlenza8608]

This worked great for explaining curling to my upper elem. physical education classes! Thank you!

[@NinhLyUK]

Cool, glad you found this video useful! :)

[@TheWerequat]

Nicely done! Thank you for a brilliant video, much appreciated!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Dave, much appreciated!

[@BaphometsLounge]

Mr. T's new favorite sport and I might have to try it someday myself. Thank you for the informative video mate.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks bro, glad you found this video helpful! And yeah, if Mr T likes it, it must be good. Be sure to check out my channel for more like this.

[@merccadoosis8847]

Thank you Ninh for another informative video.

[@NinhLyUK]

Anytime bro!

[@LauraTM]

Thank you for making this wonderful video! So much easier to understand curling by watching this versus reading about it on Wikipedia.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks! I appreciate it. Be sure to check out my other similar videos!

[@n1cklorenz0p67]

Thanks for the explanation! I enjoyed watching the curling during the OG, now that I watched your video, I better understand the rules and tactics. Thanks again!

[@NinhLyUK]

Anytime, I'm glad that this video helped you understand curling!

[@P0epoe]

My friends and I will be playing our first ever curling game tonight. We discovered a place in Belgium were we can play. This video will come in handy. Thank you very much!

[@Myers_toast78]

I wanted to find out the rules of curling and why they do all that sweeping and this video gave me all the info I needed. So thanks!

[@replicated]

Good video. I don't know why, but I love watching curling and needed to learn the rules.

[@AngryBob4213]

This is very informative and well made, thanks!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks man, glad this video helps you understand Curling!

[@liztorres6112]

Thank you. I was looking for a summary, very concise.

[@gtags1]

Nice job, its not on much in the States but when it is I love to watch

[@NinhLyUK]

Yeah, it's more televised in Canada - and I don't understand why it's not more popular in the US.

[@arlofs]

Thank you so much for the great video. It made this game a lot easier to understand when I watch it in the olympics.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Tony, glad you like the video :)

[@MohammedShaabawi]

Thank you very much. This video did help me a lot to understand the curling game. Am watching the 2018 winter olympics in korea and i didn’t understand how this game works. But you helped me a lot.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Mohammed, glad this video helps you understand Curling!

[@janikovapetra6487]

Chess on the ice! The rules of curling are explained in a perfect way in this video. I am going to play this game tomorrow for the first time, so I needed to know some basic rules and this video helped me a lot. Thanks for that.

[@NinhLyUK]

Great, glad you like this video. Check out my channel for more like this.

[@manolo21mx]

Great video and really helpful, I had a presentation about Curling and it really helped me to explain clearly the rules and strategy about Curling

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Manuel, I'm glad you like this video on Curling! :)

[@whoosh1220]

Explanation is very clear, and i understand more after i watched

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Minh, glad you found this video helpful! Be sure to check out my channel for more like this.

[@jlm990022]

Thank you for the clear explanations in this video! USA national curling championships are coming to my area and I hope to watch them and understand the game.

[@NinhLyUK]

Cool, glad this video helps you understand Curling. Check out my channel for more like this :)

[@cohall46]

Very helpful, very informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@maeveonastar]

I'm so excited I'm gonna go curling on Saturday. I'm from upstate NY. I'm going to go to Kingston on Saturday to go curling. I always loved watching it on TV but there are not any curling clubs near me

[@NinhLyUK]

Shame you have to go all the way to Kingston. Curling is a great sport to play. Good luck!

[@maggiembailey4446]

I'll be using your video to teach my students the rules before we start a unit of floor curling. Thanks!

[@MarkWusinich]

thanks! my niece just won the U21 and this did a great job of explaining what she was talking about.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks, glad this video helps!

[@RebeccaRivera61]

wow !!!! I finally have more of a grip on this sport I love. son & I have watched last three Olympics and even thou we weren't sure completely of everything involved, we still loved it. its so calming. #USA #USA #USA #GOLD

[@NinhLyUK]

Cool, glad you like the video :)

[@skipperry63]

Thanks for the explanation! The video was well done!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Gerald, glad this video helps.

[@Vailjnovelist]

thanks for the video. I've always enjoyed watching curling in the Olympics but I never understood all the different parts of scoring. and I knew it was a sport (some idiots try to claim it's not) but I didn't realize just how much strategy goes into it, either. like the idea of purposely throwing a hammer shot to get it in the next end. thanks again.

[@NinhLyUK]

Yes, it's mostly people who don't care to spend a bit to understand Curling that says it's not a sport. But once you understand, it's an awesome game! Thanks bro.

[@erfanazimi378]

Thanks for the video Was very helpful for me as a beginner

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Erfan, glad this video helps you understand Curling!

[@ace942]

Thanks for the video explaining the rules of curling.

[@navarro152]

Great explanation, it will help me to understand this sport here in Canada

[@johnwallace3861]

I will be playing coming very soon in the special Olympics I never play before is it. Fun to play in comteshion?

[@Weeman-199]

I'll I'm saying is bravo 🤜🤛 absolutely amazing video. Very clearly set the rules out, they are very confusing. Even a curler who has played the game for 3 years still gets some of these mixed up 😄😄. Hopefully more people will come into this sport as we need them! The humour was fantastic and spot on - love the mention of the house as a toilet 🤣🤣. 10/10 and shared the video to my group chat with 10 other curlers who also were laughing their heads off and agreeing with this video so somethings right with this video 🤣 Definitely correct with everything. I hope to see more like this in the future. You have earned a new subscriber and follower 👌👏👏

[@maggiestump8383]

Thank you so much for this video. I used it with an article on curling for my 5th graders. They loved the video!!

[@NinhLyUK]

Awesome, thanks Maggie. Glad you found this video useful.

[@holirumicsfriend]

Your explanation is very great! And much appreciated. I was interested in understand better and now feel informed! Great work and great explanation!!!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks, glad you like the video :)

[@SolMarTraders]

very nice video, clear in all aspects. thanks!

[@spyme72]

Good Information ... thanks for your time

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Ravi

[@LUKESTRONG4LIFE]

Besides steering, brushing is also done to cause friction to the ice. The brush is slightly abrasive. If swept hard enough, it actually melts the ice and lays a thin layer of water in front of the stone so it goes farther. Indeed the ice is sprayed with water to form pebbles. The pebbles cause less friction between the stone and the ice and therefore it goes farther. The stones are hydrophobic, meaning they don't absorb water, which makes them the prefect choice for curling. Great video! Great sport!

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks again for the additional info. And yes, it's an awesome sport.

[@LUKESTRONG4LIFE]

Ninh Ly Most welcome. I’ve actually been teaching my students about this great sport! Again, great video!

[@NinhLyUK]

That's high praise man, thank you so much! Really makes a difference in my day.

[@knightsdiege]

very nice and clear. brilliant explanation. thanks a lot :)

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks Akash, much appreciated!

[@crysjumar1]

Dude, this is an EXCELLENT explanation of all that is Curling.

[@NinhLyUK]

Thanks bro! I appreciate your compliments!

[@pegeggeggleston4315]

Hi - Thanks for the lesson, I've been watching Olympic curling off and on all these Olympics, and could never get it. Now I'm going to watch again with the knowledge gained here. Thanks and have fun. Love PegEgg