The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is Cooler than you Think!

The Ryzen 9 7950X3D review is here but other than the usual gaming benchmarks and real world performance, I wanted to have an honest discussion about HOW you can get the best performance from one of the best Gaming CPUs in 2023. That means testing the best coolers for the 7950X3D to see if you can use air cooling or need a high end AIO for this CPU.
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Ryzen 7000 Runs HOT but it Doesn't Matter - • Ryzen 7000 Runs HOT bu...
AM4 Coolers on AM5 The FINAL Answer- • AM4 Coolers on AM5 - T...
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Doing Things DIFFERENTLY
0:55 - 7950X3D Gaming & Productivity Benchmarks
1:45 - RIP CPU Coolers? Maybe not...
2:56 - 7950X3D Specs, Designed to run COOL?
3:48 - Real World Power, Clocks & Temperatures
5:14 - Gaming Temperatures & Power
6:52 - SO MANY Coolers to Compare
9:08 - The TRUTH About Game Power Consumption
9:45 - F1 2022 Temperature & Framerates
10:12 - Doom Eternal Temperature & Framerates
10:45 - Cyberpunk 2077 Temperature & Framerates
11:21 - A Cities Skylines Head Scratcher
12:21 - CPU Cooler Performance vs Full Core Load
14:00 - The 7950X3D = Better than you think?
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[@HardwareCanucks]

Small correction everyone - as has been mentioned in the comments, we mistakenly took the Canadian price for some of the coolers being used. Average USD prices are below. Sorry about that!: AG620 - $55 AG500 - $40 AG400 -$25 LT720 - $140 LT520 - $110

[@zohankhan9386]

Urqri

[@sorenvitarelli]

This content was way more interesting then seeing how fast a $700 CPU can play 1080p games.

[@harlequin2280]

Lol...I completely agree.

[@VoldoronGaming]

I don't usually watch this channel for CPU reviews but this review was very useful information. If all you do is gaming then you do not need a liquid AIO for an AMD cpu.

[@DontEatCream]

honestly that begs the question: if all i do is play games at 4k, should i just get a 7600 or 7700 and save my money?

[@beatlourd6578]

@@VoldoronGaming a watercooling custom isn’t necessary for gaming with that cpu ? I’m playing 10 hours straight as competitor ..AIO 360 mm will be good enough ?(playing Fortnite 1080p competitive settings CPU matter a lot in that game )

[@kada0420]

Yes! As far as I know, the people that can afford this cpu are either planning or already have a 2k or a 4k monitor

[@GiovanniAcosta]

Exactly the video I was looking for! Thank you for making it!

[@ASMR-soothingsounds]

It was good to see the power draw and temp comparisons, especially since I am running an SFF system and was considering upgrading to one of the X3D CPUs.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Before you do that I'd VERY much double check if the cooler you choose is compatible with the motherboard of choice. I mentioned this quickly in our RX 7900 XTX ITX build video but a lot of ITX air coolers are either not compatible with AM5 OR they're compatible but they end up hitting the motherboard's heatsinks.

[@ASMR-soothingsounds]

@@HardwareCanucks Thanks for the heads up. I am currently using an EVGA CLC 280mm AIO shoehorned in the Hyte Revolt 3. Not sure if the EVGA AIO is compatible with AM5. Do you know if it is? Coming from a 3900xt.

[@Dylan-et2yz]

Great review. You are so thoughtful about providing the info someone needs to build a system and not duplicating other KZbinrs.

[@NoxvJD]

appreciate the tests with the coolers and temps

[@Bilut]

Honestly one of the most useful videos from all of the reviews published today. Now I want to see this CPU with curve optimizer forced to -30 :)

[@TheRealSkeletor]

I don't think you'd be able to get any kind of stability (at least on all-core workloads) with those kind of Curve Optimizer settings.

[@MrStarpeto]

@@TheRealSkeletor my 5600x stay super stable with a -30 curve optimizer with a 90 w max tdp and +100mhz for max boost (although it reaches that +100 mhz only on single core loads due to the 90 w limit i imposed)

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@MrStarpeto 5600x doesn't have 16 cores.

[@Bilut]

@@TheRealSkeletor I'm sure 3dcache ccd can handle it (like almost every 5800x3d in existence). Maybe the second ccd wont. Still worth the try as it is the only way to boost performance on these chips.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@Bilut That's my point, you can crank up the curves on the first CCD, but not all cores - 30.

[@ImSooFlye]

Great content. Thanks for the review of the cpu temps.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

Wow! I'm really impressed with how thorough you were with this review, Mike. There's a lot of cross-referenced use case testing here you just don't see on other review channels. One use case for this CPU which I don't see getting much mention is for gaming while streaming. In most (high-end) gaming scenarios, the GPU will be at or close to 99% utilization, while the CPU (especially with 16 cores) will often sit at under 20% utilization. With a CPU like this, you can use CPU encoding while streaming to make use of those underutilized cores, with zero impact to gaming framerates, all without the need for a separate streaming PC.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks! really appreciate the feedback. To be honest with you, we didn't know which way to go with this one but figured this would be a lot more useful information (with a few actual benchmarks thrown in) rather than repeating what everyone else says.

[@Tempest261]

Exactly the type of review I was looking for. Thank you!

[@cryptosol160]

Nice review! As a mITX geek I'm more interested in power consumptions and temps than just pure perfomance under extreme cooling solutions. Really interested how upcoming 7800X3D will perform under miniITX coolers).

[@YLTsun]

True. Almost makes me think 7800X3D with 240 AIO and 4070 Ti in a FormDT1 would work fairly well...

[@MercenaryTau]

Nice. I appreciate the angle you took with the review. I've been plotting out my next rig for the past few months and was debating between the AG620 or an AIO, so this was EXACTLY what I needed. Cheers!

[@aeromech2155]

I really appreciate this review. My 280mm rad finally started to fail me after 8 years am I replaced it with the AK620 to try out air cooling for a change. Looking to do a brand new build soon and was planning on running the 7800x3d. Now I know that the AK620 will be able to handle it just fine for my use case. Thank you for showing off everything thing from low end to high.

[@ChengHorn9]

Such refreshing stand out format for reviewing that compliments more traditional reviews extremely well. Thank you.

[@ColoradoDualSport]

Wow, this cooling data is huge. Thanks!

[@Ram99ize]

Very practical video, thank you!

[@laszlosarkozi1385]

I like these videos where you take a different approach to the just launched new stuff!

[@HeyMaruniko]

your perspective of cooler choices makes your review more interesting from others. good job

[@kaisersolo76]

Handy informative review. Nice!

[@kkk46you]

good format man! additional cooler info was on point. so one knows what cooler adequate for the chip! thanks man!

[@scottylans]

I really appreciate the detail here and different angles of analysing the processor. Especially multille coolers. Good methodology. Subscribed

[@jorgesilveira763]

Regardless of performance and temps running a 700$ cpu on a 40$ cooling solution is simply bananas.

[@moritzi]

But people do so ^^ probably the same that buy an expensive bike and the cheapest lock

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Exactly, they should've used a 20$ one😤

[@tringuyen7519]

@@moritzi Yeah, AMD should be like Intel. Buy a $700 13900KS and another $300 DDR5 7200 just to get 10% improvement over 13900K. More money than brains!

[@IrocZIV]

If it runs cool enough, seems ok. Can factor it into your overall cost, so maybe the 7950x3d won't be so much more expensive than the 13900k

[@gunturbayu6779]

@@tringuyen7519 and 200 more for biggest aio available

[@jagenaudas8605]

thanks for your tests. you always ask the right questions. I think my a4 sff case will get the 7800x3d because of one ccd and my blackridge cooler 1200 rpm 120x25mm fan on top. direct die cooling and undervolt should leed to same or less temperatures as 360 aio.

[@rodhester2166]

Thanks for all the great info.

[@oscarpt1981]

Very good and useful video. Thanks a lot!

[@ldope3904]

Great video. Subbed

[@YuroStudios]

The only review where I could find LT720 vs AG620 data! Thank you!

[@Tainted-Soul]

Thanks you this has been SOOOOO helpful knowing the Artic Freezer II 420 will be nice and quiet @ 50%

[@cy7125]

Great and very interesting review!

[@ezravanguard4631]

Great content, and hits the spot which is heat and power efficiency.

[@2009slmlm]

This is the best launch video take man. THANK YOU!

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks man. Really appreciated.

[@doomguava6690]

Amazing work!

[@riba2233]

awesome video, really useful! btw I haven't seen an X299 system in a long time, preparation for new intel hedt platform? ;)

[@McMaxW]

Awesome review!

[@uncannygambit]

Great job Mike!

[@WW2EditsOfHistory]

Thanks for making this. It encouraged me to look at temps for the new x3d processors, and I returned my 7700x to get a 7900x3d and it is wonderful and runs COOLER.

[@FavoriteCentaurMoe]

Excellent analysis!

[@Torres_Choy]

Hello, can you tell me that the temperture you show on the graph is cpu die temperture or ccd temperture, coz I bought a 7950x3d and I found out that even I use a 360aio the temperture is still relatively high when gaming(80c)

[@Archangel125]

Thank you! You answered my biggest question about the chip. Maybe the 7800x3d will be tested with some low profile coolers included? ;)

[@Djuntas]

Great info thx. Maybe fine to run 7800X3D stock then, no eco mode etc.

[@RalsRdh]

U rocks, nice content man 🤙🤙🤙

[@lil----lil]

Great Review!

[@OvisTech]

Smart and subtle product placement as well

[@NaveenKumar-fm8hr]

thanks bro i was searching this video love from india

[@MichaelAstorino]

what did you use to measure temps? Im not getting temps that low with a 360mm aio and push pull config.

[@diegoferroni7]

Which termal paste did you use with AG400? The one that game with it? I bought one AG400 and I’m not sure which one to use the one that came with it or Z3 DeepCool

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

By correct per core undervolting and/or configuring (either in BIOS or with Process Lasso) the system to make optimal use of the cores (i.e. run games only on the 3D cached chip) , you can significantly reduce the temps while improving gaming performance to nearly match the 7800X3D.

[@roddybrod]

Awesome, very useful. Nice to know my NH-U12S should be more than enough for potentially upgrading to 7800X3D

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

any noctua are more than enough for every cpu

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

its why they dam expensive

[@Shatterstar4]

Hey, you think with a NH-U12A I'll get low temperatures and good performance?

[@n0ex]

hmm, been eyeing the 7950X3D but everyone been saying that its a beast to cool and will even though i mostly only game so the 7800X3D will most likely be enough but now when the 7950 has started to come down in price and i will also get the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 so sohuld have been enough cooling looking at these charts but still only gaming and some smaller streaming on occasion and OBS runs on the GPU anyway so wont hit the cpu, but with these numbers would it be wrong to still go for the 7800 instead of the 7950 if majority of the usecase is gaming?

[@Sebastian.S_]

Good work.

[@PcKolog]

Thank you for this detailed content. The question on my mind is this. While playing games (1080P / 1440P), I want to stream over the GPU (RTX 4080 )and record video on the CPU at the same time. According to this scenario, should I buy 7950X or 7950X3D?

[@TheRealSkeletor]

The 7950X3D would be perfect for that, since it already gets better gaming performance than the 7950X with lower power consumption while having underutilized cores you can use for encoding video at the same time.

[@jd31068]

Well done!

[@Melulite39]

Hi Hardware Canucks! Are your temperature readings done by the CPU Temperature or the CPU Die Temperature (from AMD Ryzen Master)? My NZXT Kraken Z73 temperature readings for my AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D get up to 67-68 degrees while playing Doom Eternal at max settings without RT in 1080p. However, my die temperatures are around 58 (fluctuates, sometimes up to 65-70 degrees when loading areas and such). Is this normal for the NZXT Kraken Z73? I am also reaching the max 89 degrees C in Cinebench on the die, which doesn't match your 73 degrees max load temps. I'm really confused.

[@deuswulf6193]

Good question. Really trying to figure out whether to go AIO or AIR. Its possible you might have to reseat the cooler or make sure it is sitting evenly across the CPU.

[@ForwardEngineering]

Awesome stuff as always! What did you use to make the benchmark graphs?

[@HardwareCanucks]

After Effects. We now have an After Effects Wizard working for us...expect more fun stuff!

[@ForwardEngineering]

@@HardwareCanucks Good Stuff!

[@michaelthompson9798]

As an ITX pc builder for many many years 😂😛, I see the massive appeal for a cpu like this 💪🥰😇with great performance and cool temps🥶❄under bigger loads in addition to top tier gaming performance 💪👍. While pc tech is getting hotter and needing bigger cooler solutions ….. small tech innovations like 3D-Vcache can add a lot for gaming without heat, but other tech …. Or to be released tech will help drive down cooling requirements for personal and professional environments.

[@teddym2808]

This is what I have been saying re cores.. that all these new 24 core/32 thread gaming laptops are just pointless for what people buy a gaming laptop for. Deactivating the e cores on unlocked chips and devoting all that power to the 8 p cores will net you better gaming performance.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

Fortunately you can disable the second CCD on these high-core AMD CPUs for massive power savings with no impact to gaming performance.

[@lexsanderz]

In all your charts, the 100% fan speed temps are greater than 50% temps ? How is that possible, or am I reading the charts wrong or is it inverted on the legend ? The dark orange is always lower temps than light orange. Edit: in some of your charts it's correctly labeled.

[@KK-fi6ms]

Love those Deepcool CPU coolers. Economic, effective, clean and pretty. Perfection.

[@omegajvn1]

I think this CPU is meant specifically for creators/enthusiasts. It's not *quite* as fast as the 7950X, but it's VERY close. Yes, the 7950X is cheaper, BUT you have to buy a VERY powerful (and expensive) cooler to keep the chip cool. This offsets the price factor. At least with the 7950X3D, you get the added benefit of having the extra cache for gaming, while saving money from a more expensive cooler that you'd otherwise have to buy with the 7950X. That's my two cents of the matter anyway. Great video as usual, thanks!

[@peoplez129]

I got a 7950x3d on sale for $550. It seems like a no brainer when it's only $100 more than a 7800x3d with twice the cores (and same price as the 7800x3d when you consider there's a $100 game bundle with it). And I'm going to be putting a low profile cooler on it for an ITX build. I'm sure it will throttle, as the cooler is ~100g less than the cheapest one used here, but for gaming it'll be fine, and it should be fine at stock clocks at the very least. Worst case scenario, I just run at lower clocks or disable a CCD to make it into a 7800x3d for lower thermals. That's the crazy thing about this chip though, the extra CCD only adds about 5c to the thermals at full load, but also nearly doubles the performance.

[@VicharB]

If I were to assemble a new one today, I would have gone with 7700X and saved money on faster RAM sticks with most probably RTX 4070Ti; for now I am ok with my 5600X @4.7Ghz constant and about 70C with quiet AIO and o/c RTX 3070, for 1440p gaming. The above said is considering value and performance. Otherwise very interesting review!

[@finestPlugins]

So the 3d is a good alternative to the non-3d if you plan to run in Eco Mode anyhow. That actually makes it a good production CPU as well.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Hands down the best review - so much better than 1080p benchmarks. You don't buy a CPU like this unless you want to push 4k. Love the inclusion of Skylines, too... helpful, in particular, for me 😄

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks! We should connect in some way since we're trying to find additional ways to test CPUs with Skylines as it poses such an interesting load case. I just followed you on Twitter so by all means, please feed free to DM so we can discuss. - Mike

[@caynofficial]

because im stupid I need to clarification: If I buy 7950x3d a 240 AIO is sufficient and I do not sacrifice performance or get thermal throttle? Or do I need to get a case supporting 360 AIOs?

[@chrisjackson7625]

how do those coolers stack against Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Halo 120mm CPU Cooling Fan with Gen 2 RGB Lighting - Black Edition

[@Mr_Galaxxy]

I just bought the icegiant prosiphon. I'm not a big fan of liquid cooling after mine failed and destroyed my CPU. This cooler will be going on the 7950x3d

[@Emp3ror]

How u get so low temps? i have an 240 ryujin ii aio and while gaming am running between 60-70C base and Tdie: 78C

[@ScreamerRSA]

Lol was wondering the same. No one else getting such low max temps. I bought AK620 based of their reviews and not getting anywhere close to their temps. Tdie will go over 80C in gaming. My average temp is in the 60C range though, maybe he is reporting that?

[@Thesilentwolf7610]

Anti-Bending Frame bracket will reduce the temps by 5-10 degrees. A Good AIO and a bit of undervolting will keep the cpu temps even lower.

[@Elefthesis]

So my arctic freezer 34 esports duo cpu cooler will be more than enough for this cpu?

[@wisnudJat]

Smooth Deepcool ad 😏 (I don't mind it, I use Deepcool too)

[@HardwareCanucks]

If it was an ad we'd say so. :) Truth be told, the reason why I'm using DeepCool here is the fact they have one of the most complete lineups around so we can stick to apples to apples comparisons. You'll actually notice it allowed for a comparison between 4, 5 and 6 heatpipe coolers, all with the same basic design and fans.

[@DiegoFonseca]

I definitely go with 7950x3d or 7900x3d, but I'm in doubt about the AIO cooler, if a 2x120mm or 2x140mm be enough, I'll prefer because I really like small cases. What you guys recommend? ( ) 2x120mm | ex nzxt z53 ( ) 2x140mm | ex nzxt z63 ( ) 3x120mm | ex nzxt z73

[@frederickmiller5492]

okay - great review, but if you run your 7950x in eco mode - the temperatures would almost be identical. So yes, the new chip is cooler, but it's basically running in a new 120 eco mode. Would be interesting to see the 7950x get the same mode.

[@memoli801]

Question; is there another Ton than the metrical Ton ?

[@DonMuffatello]

Why is this already out? I thought they wait at least a yea before they released the new vchache?

[@mosamaster]

This is just amazing. I would chose a 7950x3D over a 7950x or 13900K for productivity just because it can give a very similar time saving with less power and thermals saving a lot on power bills. And hence should have a better life than the others. And I can get a good gaming performance if i chose to game with it. This my personal opinion after seeing these review videos. Well done AMD 👍👍👍

[@sandornyemcsok4168]

For productivity you can cut the power down on a 7950x as well (via PBO). Let's say you limit the maximum package power to 120W (same as of the 7950X3D) and then it will run probably equally cooler at the cost of few percentage performance loss.

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

@@sandornyemcsok4168 true but 7950x3d is far more versatile and better deal if you also gaming . And you dont lose that much performance

[@sandornyemcsok4168]

@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 "Better deal" it is a subjective statement, not objective, because the 3D is more expensive. Thus potential buyers will decide on what is more important for them. And for those, who need this level of CPU for productivity, it is probably a money making tool first and gaming performance can be easily only secondary criteria. When you start to earn money yourself, your view about products usually changes. I think AMD's main target was to top the charts with the 7950X3D (marketing value), the actual sales figures won't matter as much for them.

[@sergiomarroquinjr3587]

I, for one really liked your approach and the fact that you want to see what a lower level variant will do with the same testing!

[@nektosan]

Долго искал информацию о том, можно ли ставить на 7950X3D двухсекционную систему водяного охлаждения (240мм). Боялся будет ли этого достаточно для процессора. Автор видео ответил на этот вопрос). Огромное спасибо! Заказал и себе такую же модель, LT520.

[@StaySic4Ever]

Very solid. 8 core will be quite fun to see though.

[@wwxyz7570]

Will there be X3D CPUs for laptops?

[@807800]

First, I wanna say I appreciate that you include a 50% fan speed, but can you switch it to noise normalized test instead? So, rather than 50% fan speed, just adjust it to certain silent dB.

[@HardwareCanucks]

I was thinking of it but it would have complicated things a lot more since we did these tests in a closed system so the system fans would play into the equation a bit too much for our liking.

[@gurugamer8632]

When will 7950 be replaced by new next generation and will that use 3nm technology?

[@michaelhuss0]

There have been plenty of videos about other Ryzen chips in this series benefitting from delidding. I wonder if the *X3D, by aiming for a lower target temperature, benefits significantly less...

[@troosimimimmi]

it only does pbo

[@cristainnn9298]

Which cpu is better for streaming?

[@fugehdehyou]

I got an atmospheric liquid nitrogen compressor direct injected cpu mount. Hitting those 9000mhz rn

[@bigdave2oo4]

What would be a good motherboard for this CPU? Looking to do a upgrade on my current rig and starting to plan out my upgrades. As well, any recommendations on a solid GPU?

[@PowGetRekt]

For Mobo it's either x670 or b650. If you want to future proof further lookout for Mobos with PCIe gen 5. You will need ddr5 ram also. The best deals by far for graphics cards are the 6700 xt, 6750 xt, 6800 xt right now. But in terms of best GPUs it would be the 7900 xtx, 4070 ti, 4080 and 4090. The cheapest new gpu is the 4070 ti.

[@bigdave2oo4]

@@PowGetRekt thank you!

[@haukikannel]

Any $150 motherboard if it is not Asus… Look HU video about motherboards for AM5!

[@hatchell18]

Go with x670 if you can. Don’t want to cheap out on a motherboard when you’re spending this much on a cpu. I’d say go with boards ranging from 300-400. Anything under 300 is too cheap of a board and will limit performance. For the gpu a 4070t or 4080 would be perfect. A 3080ti or 3070ti if you’re on a budget would also be good.

[@hatchell18]

@Donuts bro if you’re getting a new zen 4 3D cpu and a gpu like a 4070ti then do NOT cheap out on the motherboard. Any mobo that’s only 150-200 will be a shit motherboard and will definitely limit performance. For a top tier cpu like this I wouldn’t go with anything cheaper then a 300-350 x670 board.

[@TheCameltotem]

So I can run a cheap air cooler without any issues?

[@TRHardware]

What was missing is the DB or loudness graph for all these coolers at max rpm and 50% rpm....

[@petermilian4455]

Best video of the 7950X3D launch. Really impressed - keep up the amazing work!

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks!

[@crownvictoria7787]

Can i use 120mm aio in Ryzen 9 7900x3d ?

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Can anyone explain why i seen cpu temperature in games not always sync with power consumption . So i play two different games and cpu power almost the same on both games but for some reason the cpu temperature is completely different in both games, can anyone explain to me ?

[@MrScumbag]

I’m getting 89C with a NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm. Maybe I need to check my Bios settings. Make sure MSI isn’t doing anything extra.

[@peterto-xz1gu]

what is happening !! i have ma612 and 7950x3d . the temperature is 70-80 in battlefield 2042.. is it normal?

[@twodimensionsjhr]

Does this mean it'll be easier to put the new X3D in gaming laptops?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Technically yes, though those are just rumored.

[@MrGatz]

I wonder how the all time greatest (but old) air cooler NH-D15 from Noctua will fair

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Maybe between ag620 and 240mm aio

[@redsunschan5321]

9:51 a few years ago no one can imagine there is a 16 cores CPU can be cooled by such a small air cooler down to 60C when gaming this is just crazy

[@darrenm5797]

I have the exact same shirt. got it a few weeks ago.

[@HablaConOwens]

Im curious to see what 3D animation studios do with these new CPU and RTX Cards.

[@VoldoronGaming]

Anmation studios are likely to buy OEM workstations such as Velocity MIcro's Threadripper Pro systems

[@deuswulf6193]

@@VoldoronGaming Or at the very least they are set up with a render farm to off load the rendering process.

[@toma.cnc1]

Thank you for including Doom Eternal.

[@ABaumstumpf]

For the rendering - the 7950x3d is slower than the non-3D so saying it is mor efficient is only half the truth as it is hard powergated by AMD. Limiting the 7950 to the same power will very likely give very similar results. The extra cache increases temperature at the same powerdraw, but also a bit better performance. And with the game powerdraw - that was a nice test as sadly most tech channels keep ignoring it. Would be nice to see some CPU comparison for this ( should kinda be done in a GPU limit or even fixed FPS or the numbers would not be very comparable).

[@Alauz]

7800X3D is the one for me then, thanks for this review!