The Sage's Library: 80s Magazines

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Me, Myself and Die!

Me, Myself and Die!

3 ай бұрын

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@DUNGEONCRAFT1
@DUNGEONCRAFT1 3 ай бұрын
How I loved White Dwarf. They would print an AD&D, MERP, and Call of Cthulhu scenario all in the same issue! It's how I found Call of Cthulhu and my life was forever changed. Bravo!
@Rich_H_1972
@Rich_H_1972 3 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh, the halcyon days of the early 80s! I have some nostalgic memories of spending Saturday afternoons in our local Games Workshop in Sheffield - my mum used to leave me in there while shopping in town! It was packed with cool stuff - RPGs, board games, Intellivision consoles, gamebooks, miniatures. Just tonnes of awesome stuff. I got my first (Tunnels & Trolls 5e) RPGs from there as well as many others. Fond memories. 😊
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274 3 ай бұрын
White Dwarf used to be a great magazine for any RPG gamer. It used to cover a wide range of games and had a regular section for Rune Quest (Rune rights) and section for D&D monsters called the Fiend Factory, which would go on to inspire the AD&D "Fiend Folio". Many of the monsters first published in that column in White Dwarf would go on to be official D&D monsters as a result. White Dwarf was responsible for introducing me to CHILL 1st ed (via the adverts), Runequest (because they had an adventure called "The Black Broo of Dyskund" in one of the magazines, which caught my interest. It also got me into Empire of the Petal Throne via the adventure "Temple of the Doomed Prince" that they also published in the magazine. I have some great memories of old school WD magazine.
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274 3 ай бұрын
The Runequest advert there is for RQ2, a Chaosium game which was printed under licence in the UK by Games Workshop. The purple cover shown there is the British GW print, the US cover had a white background and the woman on the cover wore a fuller set of armour.
@foolcat23
@foolcat23 3 ай бұрын
Later on, RuneQuest 3 was licensed to Avalon Hill by Chaosium. The former removed Glorantha from the core rule book and marketed it as a generic fantasy roleplaying game. Which was great, because it really lent itself well to worldbuilding.
@andrewlavery3974
@andrewlavery3974 3 ай бұрын
You're right! I have that UK copy sitting in front of me. It says second edition and on the back says printed in Great Britain!
@tomfreeman8401
@tomfreeman8401 3 ай бұрын
I still have my copy of Quirks - an evolutionary board game from GW. It was so cool I have never been able to get rid of it.
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewlavery3974 RQ2 remains one of my favorite games of all time, along with CHILL 1st ed.
@andyslack4728
@andyslack4728 3 ай бұрын
WD30: I worked for WD around that time. Games Workshop then had agreements with Chaosium and GDW to publish RQ2 and Traveller books locally in the UK. The UK version of RQ had a different cover, which you showed in the video. GW eventually decided more control over IP would be better for them, and produced their own games, including a Judge Dredd boardgame (but not an RPG so far as I know). Asgard Miniatures was cofounded by Bryan Ansell, who went on to become MD and later owner of Games Workshop.
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274
@gethsemanegamespublishing8274 3 ай бұрын
Games Workshop did do a Judge Dread RPG as well as the board game, released in 1985. The following year they released "Judgement Day" an adventure for the game that I don't remember a huge amount about. I did play it once but I don't think our GM ever finished it.
@andyslack4728
@andyslack4728 3 ай бұрын
@@gethsemanegamespublishing8274 Thanks, I did not know about that! After my time.
@Spacemutiny
@Spacemutiny 3 ай бұрын
The Sage is back! My goal is to have a library even half as impressive as yours!
@keithmathews4605
@keithmathews4605 3 ай бұрын
That "feeling" you described when reading these magazines... the camaraderie... was SPOT on!
@markbruno72
@markbruno72 3 ай бұрын
Core memory unlocked: Used to spend summers in Lake Geneva, WI with my folks, and my mom would always take me to the Dungeon Hobby Shop, which is tied with TSR as we know. The first time we visited in 1982, I bought a copy of the Moldvay Basic Set with my saved allowance (I was 12) and filled out a subscription for Dragon. My first issue was #64.
@CavernadoLekkis
@CavernadoLekkis 3 ай бұрын
It is great to watch you going through these old magazines. I regret throwing mine away over the years.
@ricardo.mazeto
@ricardo.mazeto 3 ай бұрын
Eu também joguei todas as minhas "Dragão Brasil", livros, e meus dados fora quando parei de jogar. Mas baixei tudo de novo em PDF recentemente. Hehe. 😏
@CavernadoLekkis
@CavernadoLekkis 3 ай бұрын
@@ricardo.mazeto infelizmente, não é a mesma coisa. Mas dá pro gasto. 😅
@CavernadoLekkis
@CavernadoLekkis 3 ай бұрын
Com certeza! 😅
@Acmegamer
@Acmegamer 3 ай бұрын
I loved the old White Dwarf magazine before they became a house organ only. Miss Different Worlds, High Passage, Space Gamer, The Dungeoneer, Pegasus, Pyramid, Judges Guilds' Journal, just to name a few. All of them covered so many rpgs and had ads for all sorts of games. Good times. Cosmic Encounter, Iron Men & Wooden Ships, so many fun board games too.
@Ashbornking133
@Ashbornking133 3 ай бұрын
Wow these mags are still in excellent condition, this is a treat
@barnyfraggles
@barnyfraggles 3 ай бұрын
Oh man, so many memories of poring over those pages at an avalanche of games whose rules I could neither fathom nor afford.
@tobarstep
@tobarstep 3 ай бұрын
GDW had their own magazine, too: _Challenge._ GDW had my favorite games in the late 80s/early 90s, like MegaTraveller, Twilight 2000, 2300 AD, and Dark Conspiracy. I remember seeing articles for other games like Call of Cthulhu in _Challenge._
@Sanguivore
@Sanguivore 3 ай бұрын
I love your palpable excitement, Trevor! I hope that one day we all return to such an enthusiastic uplifting of RPGs and wargames as a whole, rather than being so segmented into tribes of *only* this, or *only* that gamers.
@Rockjaw
@Rockjaw 3 ай бұрын
UK gamer of a ... certain vintage here. GDW and GW weren't affiliated at all (although I had the same thought as a wee lad). Traveller was imported from the US as I recall. One of my first RPGs was the Traveller Starter Set. GW reprinted a lot of US games for the UK/European market - RuneQuest (the Avalon Hill version - in hardbacks), Call of Cthulhu (boxed), Star Trek (FASA, boxed) and more. It's how they got started, importing D&D et al, so it's not actually super surprising that they had such broad coverage at the time of that first issue you looked at - the readers were going out and buying games like CoC and the money would, in part, come back to them. :) Judge Dredd was a GW game through and through. UK publisher, UK comic, makes sense. :) I still remember the infamous "F-everyone-else" issue - 93, I think - when Warhammer 40K was announced and boom, that was it; no more non-GW coverage of anything. Sad day for young me!
@animatorFan74
@animatorFan74 3 ай бұрын
Yeeeeh definitely brings back memories. Started roleplaying in 1991 with Palladium Rifts and loved it. What we would do is buy Dungeon magazines and convert the adventures in those magazines to Rifts Adventures and stat out the monsters like they were Rifts monsters and things like this. They were so so fun to read through. I think the Dungeon and Dragon magazines were our first "encounter" with TSR games and Dungeons and Dragons. Back then I think roleplaying was frowned upon, so was hard to find groups to play with.... we would just have games with friends and stuff. Was still fun though. Yes, many a good time was had flipping through those magazines, looking especially at the artwork and such. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Trevor. :)
@petsdinner
@petsdinner 3 ай бұрын
I literally just picked up a copy of WD92 in my local comic shop! How uncanny to see it featured here! I love these old 80s mags, cheers for the great video Trev!
@altarofthedeadgods_wargame
@altarofthedeadgods_wargame 3 ай бұрын
loved it ! white dwarf was a huge part of my childhood
@funwithmadness
@funwithmadness 3 ай бұрын
I miss magazines. I also miss the early days of RPGs.
@chuckwilson980
@chuckwilson980 3 ай бұрын
I fondly remember when Dragon had a section (right in the middle, so you could bend the staples & pull it out of the magazine) called Orion, which focused on science fiction games. One month, they had a detailed article presenting a trading ship for the Star Trek RPG, which FASA had the license for at the time. It was terrific! The Orion section, and the RPGA section, had great, focused material outside the usual content.
@jamesmorton7852
@jamesmorton7852 Ай бұрын
As has been stated earlier the RQ advert was for the 2nd edition. GW also eventually picked up 3rd edition and it was a considerably cheaper than the Avalon hill edition in the UK. RQ 2nd edition was the first ever game I got, Tunnels and Trolls was the 2nd system. I have always had a soft spot for both games. But poor old T&T never got much coverage, even in WD. Great episode and thanks for the memories.
@Indigorun
@Indigorun 3 ай бұрын
What I noticed and remember is most everything was in black and white, one color. Two-color and, oh my gosh, full-color, was so expensive to print. That's why you generally see full-color only on the cover or small spread sections of the magazine.
@magicmike29
@magicmike29 3 ай бұрын
I was a regular purchaser of White Dwarf back in the day, I haven't read one in years. There was a game book magazine I used to get too back in the mid, late 80's called Proteus. Very much in the vain of Fighting Fantasy, but in monthly magazine form. I don't know if it ever found its way to north America, but I loved it. I noticed an ad in one of your magazines that made me smile for a game with the usual 'Just $29.95' flash on it. Allowing for inflation, that would be about 80 buckaroos now. Expensive then, would be expensive now.
@variumgrey
@variumgrey 3 ай бұрын
I used to pick up magazines from a little corner bookshop. Or the drugstore. Later from a larger bookstore chain. They absolutely opened up my mind to new possibilities. I sent away mail order for the first rpg I ever bought with my own money (WEG Star Wars) out of one of them. They really were a scattershot of evocative ideas and definitely something I looked forward to each month.
@deaddrone
@deaddrone 3 ай бұрын
In early 90's I played polish version of Talisman board game called "Magia i Miecz" (eng. "Magic & Sword") which was to me a phenomenal game back then. One day I came accross the magazine with the same title as the board game mentioned above. It has a dragon and and a castle on the front cover so I thought it was a comic book about characters from that game so I bought it instantly. When I opened it I felt dissapointed because it had only 2 page black/white comic about Thrud The Barbarian and the rest were articles about Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Call of Cthulhu, AD&D, and of course lots of ads about other rpg games and DoomTrooper CCG. After I read some pages I was stunned that I have discovered new types of games. And that's how I felt in love with RPGs, CCGs, tabletop battle games etc. This was huge to me. I run to my friends right away to let them know about my newest discovery. Oh man, that changed my life forever :) My first rpg was LOTR Adventure Game and WFRP 1st edition. Wow. Tear in the eye as I remindes it. Such a great times. Thank you Trevor for your dedication and tabletop gaming spirit. Wish you all the best! Regards from Poland!
@richardrussell7082
@richardrussell7082 6 күн бұрын
5:02 Editor: Ian Livingstone 😎 7:19 I went to 'Not Just Stamps' while visiting my cousins in High Wycombe ☺ This would have been around 1986 or so. 8:50 THRUD TH' BARBARIAN !!!! I remember the mini you could get of him 😜 9:02 Games Workshop's origin was as a maker of playing boards for an assortment of games (backgammon, nine men's morris, etc) before obtaining the UK distribution rights for D&D and other stuff from TSR.
@iansanderson2567
@iansanderson2567 3 ай бұрын
Asgard Minatures was Brian Ansells company he left to start Citadel Minatures with Games Workshop. It was Brian who moved White Dwarf away from the General RPG to the house publications, then dropped the Co publication of RQ, etc, and concentrated on Warhammer.
@jamesrizza2640
@jamesrizza2640 3 ай бұрын
Man, this was a trip down memory lane. Ral Partha was my favorite miniature maker. I used to buy Dragon magazine every month for years. I learned how to DM from this Mag. It was, in many ways, better than the internet. I think this is because you had to actually read it. By reading you absorb the content much better. Then there was the PBM [Play By Mail], games remember those. The cartoons at the back were hilarious.
@DougBolden
@DougBolden 3 ай бұрын
I still snag the Warlock Returns for my Advanced Fighting Fantasy needs. That and Mythic Magazine are my main two gaming periodicals, which probably says a lot about me. Hah.
@ricardo.mazeto
@ricardo.mazeto 3 ай бұрын
3 things I miss from the old days. The illustrations, the maps, and the chose your own adventure books. They don't do these 3 like they used to do.
@romigan1256
@romigan1256 3 ай бұрын
I remember being very excited when Dragon magazine came to England. I loved early White Dwarf, was great to see such an eclectic mix of games. I ran a campaign for merp based on a small adventure which had cleverly been written for CoC, D&D? and Merp. WD always had adverts for the London games shop Orcs Nest, which is still going. Thanks, you and professor Dungeoncraft are sort of Indy games magazines, just like in Fahrenheit 451!
@dorsidhion81
@dorsidhion81 3 ай бұрын
Growing up in the 90s, I got hooked on the Star Wars RPG from West End Games. Their Adventure Journals were something I couldn't get enough of!
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel 3 ай бұрын
I rarely got the magazines. The way I found out about all the games was by spending a couple hours studying them all in a hobby store which carried nearly every hobbyist game available at the time. That shop, in the mid-80s, had more games on it's shelves than 98% of the game stores I've seen since. Mom quickly got sick of waiting for me to peruse the hordes of stuff before making a decision each time. She'd just drop me off there and come back in a couple hours each time. Ahh, the unsupervised children we were! That store was where all my sweatshop child labor income went for years, meager as that income was.
@kythian
@kythian 3 ай бұрын
I still have so, so many of my old mags, mostly Dungeon Magazine. I will still mine them for little ideas here and there. Still a wonderful resource for me.
@jameslondelmccullough344
@jameslondelmccullough344 3 ай бұрын
1985 and just moved to the big city of Sacramento from a small town in Oregon. New to the city and not knowing anyone, my mom's new word friend has her son over who was probably 3 years older. He saw that I was a nerd and says: "You'll want this!" And let's me borrow red box set and Middle Earth rpg. That was it. Hooked between magazines and the game shop I found a bit later.
@007nikster2
@007nikster2 3 ай бұрын
Actually Cosmic Encounter is a hugely popular game to this day. It is constantly in print by Fantasy Flight games and is many well known board game reviewers favorite game.
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
Huh. I had never heard of it. That’s very unusual for me!
@Ny-kelCameron
@Ny-kelCameron 3 ай бұрын
Man! What a treasure trove you've got there Sage Trevor. I wasn't into to rpg's in my youth, the closest thing that I ever came to a rpg, was something you showed in the video that I had to comment. I was big into the Fighting Fantasy books. My school's library had a few that I would borrow constantly, even dare I say, try to "borrow forever" during my last days of school, but we had a diligent librarian and she'd watch me like a hawk..... However, I fondly remember exciting nights of adventures in Deathtrap Dungeon and in the Forest of Doom....good times.
@brianw6291
@brianw6291 3 ай бұрын
OMG! The decade of the 80s was a true golden age for Dragon magazine. I spent countless hours reading those issues! The one magazine I wish you would have covered was Challenge (GDW’s house magazine).
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
Never read that one, sorry!
@NotADoctor828
@NotADoctor828 3 ай бұрын
My favorite part of Dragon Magazine in the ‘80s were the covers by Larry Elmore. I remember getting inspired for so many adventure and character ideas from his work! Also… the space station in the background of that back-cover Space Master ad looks a lot like the Orbis-class stations in today’s Elite Dangerous video game. Just sayin’
@justhomashere
@justhomashere 3 ай бұрын
Like your channel a lot. Thanks for putting out great content and have an awesome day
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@sharkymouth
@sharkymouth 3 ай бұрын
The Judge Dredd RPG was also published by GW. It came in a box, like so many in the day. I remember because it was my first ever RPG. Still have it on my shelf today :)
@johnsnyder4653
@johnsnyder4653 3 ай бұрын
OH man, so many flashbacks! I had Dragon 75! The articles about the Hells was awesome, pt 2 in Dragon 76 was awesome too! (that one also had the Ecology of the Beholder) Thanks for showing these off! I'd be ok with a Tomes from the Vault type episode where you do a page through of older supplements, and we all geek out together!
@G-Funk42
@G-Funk42 3 ай бұрын
Would definitely love to see a Sage's Library on your old Lankhmar stuff!
@CTMcGrew
@CTMcGrew 3 ай бұрын
Shadis magazine by Jolly Blackburn was one of these magazine gems. Challenge by GDW too.
@Mankcam
@Mankcam 3 ай бұрын
Wow Trevor, thanks for the great walk down memory lane. I was living in a small town in Australia in 1980s, but unusually it had a great hobby shop that stocked Dungeon, Dragon, Different Worlds, and White Dwarf mags which introduced us to a wide range of rpgs. It was weird because the closest capital city had shops that predominantly had TSR D&D at the time, it was very vanilla by comparison. I was a big RQ2/3 and MERP/RM fan back then. When I moved to the city in the 1990s and everything was mainly TSR D&D and White Wolf Storyteller, but in my youth these mags informed the way I viewed rpgs to this day BTW That's Games Workshop's version of RQ2 advertised in the front inside cover. Games Workshop did released a version of RQ3 as well (two hardcovers - Standard RQ and Advanced RQ). Games Workshop did better hardcovers than the Chaosium RQ2 books, and much better than the Chaosium/Avalon Hill RQ3 products. The GW RQ3 books used alot of the artists that segued into WFRP 1E a few years later Thanks for the great video 😊
@tobarstep
@tobarstep 3 ай бұрын
I remember ads for Talislanta. No elves!
@AnnyMouseyMouse
@AnnyMouseyMouse 3 ай бұрын
My favorite series of yours!
@fredericmanson441
@fredericmanson441 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately, there are still published magazines!! I remember the first magazine I purchased with a full game system inside!! System updated 2 or 3 years ago to the 5th edition!! An other one was about the city of Laelith!! Yup, THAT city which gets a new released these last years!! Also, they were "generalist" mags with plenty of scenarios, interviews, reports, tests, etc... Now, 2 mags are released, Casus Belli and Jeu de Role Magazine. And it's frakking good to read papers and not on s screen!!! =)
@wbbartlett
@wbbartlett 3 ай бұрын
Makes me wish I'd kept hold of my old White Dwarf & Imagine mags.
@Imhal13
@Imhal13 3 ай бұрын
Yes, Dragon magazine was a go to. White Dwarf was mostly something I got into after it was firmly about GW product. There were other UK gaming magazines imported to the US and they had some amazing LARP articles, RPG scenarios and metal album reviews and the advertising included play by email as well as call in options. You could dial into a paid game and pay by the minute. It was as you described; an era of "pan-nerdom" with a lot of overlap in audiences. There was less of a sense that you had to "pick a team jersey" when it came to being a nerd.
@user-mr5bm2yg6z
@user-mr5bm2yg6z 3 ай бұрын
Wow very cool Trevor! Seeing those old White Dwarf issues was awesome. I was about 5 years old when I discovered Space Crusade, which is about as close to an RPG I got at the time, and got into Warhammer 40k in the early 2000's. Its amazing seeing these magazines in such great condition. I did find before the internet that mags had a special feeling to them when you discovered something cool coming out, whether it was White Dwarf, PC Gamer, or anything of that ilk. I'll have to do some research into how D&D and the like came about in the first place as the history of it all is interesting to me. Great video as always! I love the art style of those 80's mags its so evocative.
@mg1342mg
@mg1342mg 3 ай бұрын
My favorite thing aboot The Sage's Library is that you care enough about your audience that you wear your smoking jacket.
@sy4380
@sy4380 2 ай бұрын
We were watching this, and someone suddenly asked "is that a smoking jacket or lounge jacket?"
@nateabels5151
@nateabels5151 3 ай бұрын
Ahhh, 'Back in the day...' I started in DnD 2e. :)
@dirigoallagash3464
@dirigoallagash3464 3 ай бұрын
I believe I have that Dragon mag and now I wonder/assume if that's how I found out about WFRP because I went and got it around that time. Absolutely LOVE my softcover WFRP book. And Daniel Horne (cover of said Dragon mag) is one of my favorite artists from that time, as evidenced by my profile pic. 😁 I'm going to sell most of my Dragon mags but I'll never get rid of my Dungeon mags. I read them cover to cover, sometimes more than once. Good stuff, Trevor!
@capt.scarecrow
@capt.scarecrow 3 ай бұрын
How about a Sage's library on Dragon Warriors?
@Sanguivore
@Sanguivore 3 ай бұрын
YES! Oh my gosh, I would love that. Dragon Warriors is heavily underrated!
@Goldbeard_The_Pirate
@Goldbeard_The_Pirate 3 ай бұрын
This video was excellent Trevor. I was born in the 90s, so I'm kind of in between this time period and the age of the internet. So cool to see these magazines, and it's no wonder why they caught your attention!
@steveblunden2295
@steveblunden2295 3 ай бұрын
Hey, you shot past Thrud the Barbarian in the 87 White Dwarf !! Noting the hairstyle, Warhammer 40k had or was about to be launched. Loved both Thrud and Gobbledegook
@paulallen8304
@paulallen8304 3 ай бұрын
I feel that one of the worst decisions that WoTC and Hasbro ever made was to discontinue Dungeon and Dragon magazine(s). I remember reading through them as a kid and being drawn into the fantastical worlds and characters and it just hooked me. It may be my nostalgia but the quality of the products just seemed to be so much better back then.
@matthewconstantine5015
@matthewconstantine5015 3 ай бұрын
In the 90s, AEG (I think) put out Shadis magazine, which was an attempt to capture these old days. They had a whole "promise" or mission statement that they would never have more than X% of the magazine devoted to AEG material. To the best of my knowledge, they kept that promise. Sadly, like most magazines, they were a victim of the internet. I had a bunch of old White Dwarf & Dragon, from before they became company mouthpieces. Those were the days. Cosmic Encounter was a cool game, actually. I think it's still in print, though from another company.
@Scubasgamecorner
@Scubasgamecorner 3 ай бұрын
Such a great episode, and just turning 52 two months ago this brought back so many great memories. Thank you Questions.... Which game do you play the most as a player. And which game do you run the most?
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
Depends! Currently running a V5 campaign and playing in a Forbidden Lands sandbox.
@cextheartist
@cextheartist 3 ай бұрын
ooh, I wanna share my story with RPG. I first read a "underground" magazine about RPG, and I remember I only knew the genre of video games RPGs (like final fantasy for example). The book had and adaptation of star wars for ADnD, something for WoD, and the main thing on it was about secret corporations, mental powers and aliens!! Was a lot of pages and drawings of it (and I do drawings too, so I did love it entirelly). But I didn't knew any rule of any system. I just had that magazine. Next, after several months, I've buyed d20 rulebook, and a national system for anime and video games adaptations. Now I knew how the things works, but I didn't find any group to play with... never ever... When I did find one, we couldn't make it together to play. I just knew about the TTRPG and how it works, but never played. SEVERAL YEARS LATER (really, like ten to twelve years later) I discovered Solo games thru a youtube channel (the biggest in brazil, the channel of tarcisio lucas, great dude!) And Finally I've played it. And still play till this day on. And all started with a magazine like thoose ones!!!
@derekmann494
@derekmann494 3 ай бұрын
Great video!! I've recently taken up collecting the old '80s gaming magazines; Dragon, Dungeon, Challenge, Stardate, Different Worlds, White Dwarf, Heroes, Space Gamer, The General...
@paulvalentine4157
@paulvalentine4157 3 ай бұрын
I love all the 70s and 80s gaming magazines...
@saldiven2009
@saldiven2009 3 ай бұрын
Hey! I have that one with the skeleton breaking through the door. Edit: Oh, and that one with the giant on the front, too :)
@obadiah_v
@obadiah_v 3 ай бұрын
Great memories. I recall that there was a game sure here in Australia that specialized in RPGs and wargames and did mail order. Their catalogue was pure gold. It was like a mini magazine with just lists of products and ads for new things coming out. Whenever someone got the be catalogue we would share it around and read it envious eyes of what we might afford.
@Eynowd
@Eynowd 3 ай бұрын
That would have been the old MilSims catalogue. I found a link to a scanned one and put it in my own comment on it :)
@obadiah_v
@obadiah_v 3 ай бұрын
@@Eynowd indeed it was
@synthastro
@synthastro 3 ай бұрын
great video, i was there with you, these old mags are like delicious time capsules, preserving the history of our wonderful pursuit. There were also many fanzines that kept people updated, you had to sub in the post with checks or postal orders. You could also request free catalogues from companies, I remember the arrival of TSRs was like a birthday gift, they made so many cool games back then, not just D&D. It was usually old news by the time I got it but it was fresh to me so i was excited - I was in London UK. GW stores used to stock everything. They were great places to meet. But I stopped going when they only sold their stuff, and ceased production of other games barring Warhammer. You are right, it was also a golden age. But I think I like this one better - the hobby is now vast, there is content everywhere to enjoy and learn from, its easier to find a game, systems have improved a lot, variety has grown, everything is more inclusive (try playing a gay cowboy in any group in 1982, it will be shut down) production levels in books are now luxurious, and best of all, Tana Pigeon arrived and we now have SRPG.
@tomyoung9834
@tomyoung9834 3 ай бұрын
Back then, the kind of amateurish approach the various companies had was actually so much more refreshing and fun than a lot of today’s slick corporate generated Products…..
@steve-xt1zg
@steve-xt1zg 3 ай бұрын
White dwarf was certainly the gateway, so many articles to use in so many games. GW seemd to have their paws in a lot of games back then, judge dredd RPG, they even did a version of middle earth RPG before I.C.E i thinknand prodiced minis. There was no internet but we had mail order...... and our parents cheque book ..... and about a 6 week wait at least to get anything 😂😂 another great article and trip down memory lane, i tip my hat to you good sir!
@monomakes
@monomakes 3 ай бұрын
There's an advert for Games Unlimited in Kingston, my local store back in the day.
@dodger0101
@dodger0101 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Trevor ! There was another cool one called Ares Magazine that had playable version of games. It was published from 1980-1984. Much fun! Fun Fact Cosmic Encounters is still around and rates pretty high on Board Game Geek :)
@talltalesandothershenaniga8358
@talltalesandothershenaniga8358 3 ай бұрын
Those early WD were so good and then they went full warhammer and it all just went pants. BTW not sure if you were being ironic but actually Cosmic Encounter is HUGE and considered one of the best board games out there!
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
Ah, it’s a board game. That would explain why I’ve never heard of it. Not my world!
@talltalesandothershenaniga8358
@talltalesandothershenaniga8358 3 ай бұрын
❤@@MeMyselfandDieRPG he replies to my post. I am too honoured
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I recall Cosmic Encounter being a hit. I think it got some new editions over the decades as I recall one coming out in the 2010s or thereabouts. Never played that one myself but would hear good things.
@Thepaintedmini
@Thepaintedmini 3 ай бұрын
I can’t remember the company, but there was a company that would sell molds to pour your own lead minis, and I would order those molds from the back of the magazines and just spit out armies and armies of cheap metal!
@foolcat23
@foolcat23 3 ай бұрын
I shall always fondly remember Warpstone, a fanzine with highly professional production value. To my memory, it was by their effort (alongside a Usenet Newsgroup; its name eludes me at the moment) that the WFRP community was kept alive during the long, long years when Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay first edition was largely out of print and no longer supported by GW (we never got Realms of Sorcery until...). It was a stroke of genius by Hogshead, when they later picked up the license to republish 1st Ed and then some, to fully embrace Warpstone, because it had quality content.
@iansanderson2567
@iansanderson2567 3 ай бұрын
Trevor you need to do one on Fanzines the classic Dungonieer from the US and from the UK Underworld Oracle, Brian Ansells Trollcrusher, The Beholder and Demons Blood.
@WhiskeyPatriot
@WhiskeyPatriot 3 ай бұрын
Cult's "blood moon" pipe tobacco is fantastic for any aspiring Greybeard.
@spacemandan5906
@spacemandan5906 3 ай бұрын
yes, I have a copy of cosmic encounter the revised 2nd edition.
@solitaryrpg
@solitaryrpg 3 ай бұрын
Have you checked out YUMDM and his D12 Monthly. He is bringing back the concept of a monthly magazine. They are good and come in digital and printed formates. Great video it took me back to the days I looked forward to the local shop getting the magazine in. Good times
@DeletarTepes
@DeletarTepes 3 ай бұрын
Ok I'm immediately looking for that bruce lee game lol. Purpose of sage's library: success
@rufuslynks8175
@rufuslynks8175 3 ай бұрын
Back in the day, decades before teh before-times, the "comraderie" you speak of was akin to a shared hardship. Playing DnD was much like those practicing the occult, it was a secret. The game was derided by folks at school and those that played were the lowest of the dorks. In reality, kids from all groups played secretly, in the basements. Yep. Folks would steer clear of each other during the day and descend into the basements to game. Coded language was spoken to identify other players, keeping their secret (and yours), to bring groups together. But man, were those games intense and all the more meaningful a release for the secretness. In school, players gained unspoken allies in other social groups, and at the weirdest moments. Jocks would suddenly thing a nerd was ok, or a cheerleaders would suddenly feel it was alright to date a math wizard. I had one asstute teacher that tossed our a bit of code in class to attract players for his own group's game. Strange times, but it truly helped later with the mindless office politics that is juvenile in its simplicity, well, in comparison anyway. Fast forward decades, after moving across the country to a new job. No friends or associates nearby (like less than 6 hours away), in an adhoc meeting with another department team and I hear that coded language again. "Lay on hands," use in conversation, really. So I joked about only once per day, and the speaker responded quietly "1d4." And.... boom! Connected to a new peer group locally. Before the Internet, this was its own sort of special secret society, at least in my experience. Good times. As a sid note, there archive sites with all the old Dungeon, Dragon, sorts of magazines. Run them through an online OCR and that makes forr a lot of free adventues to run and modify.
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
Oh, I remember, believe me. I have often spoken about the pariah status of gamers back in the 80s, and how we NEVER spoke of it on public, lest the Scarlett letter appear… It’s a far different world today.
@uncouthboy8028
@uncouthboy8028 2 ай бұрын
Warpstone magazine!
@Rockjaw
@Rockjaw 3 ай бұрын
Aww, you flipped right past the ad for The Price of Freedom. A game that really could only exist in that moment of time... thank goodness
@TheDarkestReign
@TheDarkestReign 3 ай бұрын
Singing up for the electronic newsletter? Oh, you mean the 2020's RPG News Online Magazine!
@ricardo.mazeto
@ricardo.mazeto 3 ай бұрын
I subscribed to the newsletter when you first announced it, but I never received a single email. Have you ever sent one?
@MeMyselfandDieRPG
@MeMyselfandDieRPG 3 ай бұрын
I send them out infrequently. When there’s something to say.
@TonyLS9A
@TonyLS9A 3 ай бұрын
So many memories. Yep, kids, that's how we found games back in the day. Trudged uphill both ways in hip-deep snow to the gaming store to find those mags.
@stevelucido266
@stevelucido266 3 ай бұрын
I had Villains and Vigilantes. It was meh, like most of the hundreds of games out back then! It was cool though. You were definitely spoiled for choice.
@nvRfear1911
@nvRfear1911 3 ай бұрын
@MrJHDK
@MrJHDK 3 ай бұрын
I had a great collection prior to my rpg hiatus. Fighting Fantasy and Grail Quest books, which started me in the hobby.. and then the core books and expansions for multiple rpgs. Only for them to have been taken by damp and mildew. (Which led to an even further extended hiatus) It is great to see this collection in such good condition. 🥲
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