The Santa Clause Trilogy: The Girth of A Nation

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Tim Allen breaks into your house every year whether he's Santa or not

[@yayhay1]

He told me he wanted to play the belly button game

[@TacticalAnt420]

He could be the most successful rober of history. Please arrest him

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Honestly, I rather have a thicc Tim Allen than a random stranger break into my house.

[@francissreckofabian01]

Not this year I'm afraid. Last year I laced the milk with strychnine and the cookies with angel dust. It might explain 2020. If so, sorry world. But the dude had to go. I have been politely (mostly) requesting a pony for 54 years and nothing. Not even Pokey! (not to mention the porn star I asked for when I was 18).

[@alexmccorkle1004]

Theory hub for these kinds of videos

[@luckyhibiki1914]

the Santa suit is a parasite that needs to move from host to host. when Tim Allen walked outside the suit spotted him and decided that it was the right moment to switch hosts. that's why the original Santa disappears, the suit liquified him and absorbed his entire body, thus giving it the energy it needed to latch onto Tim Allen.

[@luckyhibiki1914]

@@NimhLabs well, if the elves are thousands of years old, i guess we can assume theres either some sort of mutual benefit from their relationship or perhaps they worship it as a god of some kind.

[@onyxrafle8066]

@@AxxLAfriku report this guy for spam

[@mgeiger2341]

One suit to rule them all.

[@Batigol500]

Under no circumstance is Dr Bright permitted to wear the Santa suit.

[@dylantennant6594]

The Santa suit is Venom!

[@eckmann88]

In the original script Tim Allen downs Santa with a shotgun.

[@zooeyhill6006]

Jesus, I'd pay good money to see that.

[@KangaPanda]

Only downs though, the killing blow is the curb stomp

[@miniraptor3211]

That somehow makes more sense than what really happens

[@_JayRamsey_]

I choose to believe that that is entirely true.

[@kuroazrem5376]

For real?

[@alexandercolefield9523]

only in Polar Express do they address the paradox that people don't believe in Santa: the idea is most of the gifts are of course from your parents, but little odds and ends are from Santa, Santa likes to give children old timey Christmas gifts like bells and oranges, the parents just assume a relative got it or they forgot they bought their kid an orange.

[@FelipeJaquez]

Tim Allen is also in the Polar Express

[@arthureaterofworlds5176]

Yeah but just appearing overnight without letting anyone.

[@brianisme6498]

@@arthureaterofworlds5176 without letting anyone what? Finish your sentence!

[@arthureaterofworlds5176]

Sorry I meant letting anyone inside the house during the middle of the night.

[@brianisme6498]

@@arthureaterofworlds5176 ok, but why didn’t a finish it. Did you misclick or something and couldn’t be bothered to change it? I’m not making fun of you I’m genuinely curious

[@jlupus8804]

“Santa Claus is dead, and we have killed him. His blood runs candy* red in the streets. Oh, the great horror that will come of this.” -Friedreich Nietzsche

[@E4439Qv5]

"Santa Claus is dead. Santa Claus remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort himself; the murderer of our jolly benefactor? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has vanished under mysterious circumstances: who will dust the snow off his coat? Which (if any) head may wear his balled cap? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become Santa Claus to appear worthy of it?" -Fritz Niche (aka Superman)

[@garrettchandler1948]

I like how canonically they kill the same santa claus 3 times.

[@rosecity_chris]

90s recipie for movie film: business man is bad business dad, learns business lesson and is now about dad business.

[@theonebman7581]

*Lord Business*

[@NoxideActive]

I can't believe you glossed over the fact that there must have been a Mrs. Clause that died back in the north poll.

[@NoxideActive]

@@NimhLabs Yes, now what about the rest of his family? With these regime changes it's not a good idea to let surviving members have a chance to cause a power conflict with the new rulers.

[@matthewlong7547]

Would it be better or worse if they died alongside santa or if they stuck around to be married by the next santa?

[@jackschulte6185]

@Blood in the Water Peak Tim Allen is being unable to immediately identify if this is satire. You legit had me until "death squad"

[@theonebman7581]

@Blood in the Water I wanna see this movie-

[@davo_]

Ah, a fellow Tim Allen Christmas movie connoisseur. I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@donz6211]

I see that your a Christmas movie fan. But are you really? Name ever film with Santa Claus in it.

[@kevinperron5767]

Hate to be that guy but its connaisseur not connoisseur

[@dirtmaster2290]

I saw your video earlier then saw this and thought I was going insane

[@tincano-beans2114]

Just finished your vid and now you're here lmao

[@MechaSandvich]

The king is in our presence

[@corncrackerkid5092]

My family just recently sat down to watch Santa Clause 3 and honestly what makes the whole movie is Martin Short’s velvet suit and ice makeup and just how much ham he puts into the character

[@birdiejett3163]

I’m glad people are starting to acknowledge how bizarre these movies are

[@famousramus2288]

The first one was fine the rest are bizarre

[@Kuzan9]

And that’s what makes them so great

[@henith7850]

All three of them are bizarre but the first two are bizarre in a good way and the third one is in a bad way.

[@artistwithouttalent]

3:34 It's kind of funny, in the second film, the Easter Bunny casually mentions that despite Scott Calvin (and hey, while we're at it, Tim Allen) being thoroughly repellent on a personal level, kids are somehow *_86%_* happier with him as Santa, so yeah, apparently the guy he replaced was exceptionally bad.

[@nakoruruwantspepsi1556]

The og Santa wanted out. I used to watch these movies all the time as a kid. had the VHS. So there was a scene I noticed. The part where he's looking at the card, in the background there;s a figure running off. Its the old santa.

[@xaviergonzalez44]

Holy-

[@nieznajomy4398]

Sorry but I can't see this "figure". I watched this fragment multiple times on D+ but I couldn't find it. Could you give me exact time stamp?

[@nickwalker7850]

Yeah I don't see it. I just got sent on a wild goose chase and combed over multiple clips from that whole segment and didn't see anything. Unless it was just a flickering artifact on the VHS that got lost on the transfer, I don't think you saw anything. :/

[@nieznajomy4398]

@@nickwalker7850 or scene that was cut out early on.

[@pink-a-palouza7888]

Yeah very true my theory is that he is the son of one of the previous Santa Claus and I think that if you’re the son of a previous Santa Claus you don’t have to do the whole marriage thing any ideas that since he never got that chance of life he just was like you know what I’m just better off handing it to whoever

[@Yig_al_Gaib4242]

So, I never realized this when I watched these movies as a kid, but do the other ‘mythical’ characters like the Tooth Fairy and Jack Frost have the same set of rules like Santa and have a similar ‘Clause’ without it sounding pithy or is Santa the only one that is replaced when he dies and the rest are immortal?

[@rayxtime]

If true, could Tim Allen kill each one and gain all their powers?

[@Yig_al_Gaib4242]

@EnterTextHere_ ...But would he have had to unalive the other characters, or is that only a rule with Santa?

[@christianali5431]

Of course they all have clauses. If Santa has one, so would they. Why do you think the tooth fairy is a man? The career and magic of the tooth fairy went to whoever wore their clothing, and the last person to accept the contract of the tooth fairy was a dude. It also explains a scene from the escape clause movie. Scott convinces his “niece“ to save her parents from being frozen forever, by giving Jack Frost a heartwarming hug. When demanding to know what is happening to him, and being told that his heart is being warmed by her embrace, he says in serious, almost tragic tones “They said it wasn’t possible.“ You say that? Whoever they were made him Jack Frost. He didn’t ask to be Jack Frost. He didn’t want to be Jack Frost. But he had to do it because he accepted the contract and putting on the original frost clothing. It also explains why he covered the position of Santa Claus so much. He didn’t want magic, but if he was going to have magic, it would be much better to have Santas magic.

[@lordtrigon1733]

If you kill the Easter Bunny do you mutate into a human/rabbit hybrid?

[@Yig_al_Gaib4242]

@@lordtrigon1733 Presumably, yes.

[@solomonofbifrost6855]

Watching KZbinrs revisit these films has been a real treat in these trying times xD. Happy Holidays, everyone!

[@Skull35]

Mr. Sunday's Caravan of Garbage is a great dive into these too

[@Wawagirl17]

@@Skull35 Oh god, those are hilarious too!

[@ponchowizard5182]

This is the kind of lore diving that really goes to show that a story isn't only about what is being told but what is not being told also.

[@koketsok1513]

guy dies tim allen: see clothes(its free real estate) not gonna lie no matter how I rationalize the scene wearing a disappearing dead guys clothes is weird

[@ErickSoares3]

That worked in Aquaman...

[@kingpyrrhusofepirus6686]

Imagine if a random storm trooper just put on Ben Kenobi's clothes after he died.

[@neo-didact9285]

Finally, a "free real estate" YT comment that made me laugh!

[@buttersurge8047]

@@neo-didact9285 are you being sarcastic?

[@Nukestarmaster]

I'm pretty sure the clothes compelled him to put them on.

[@Sammmmmmmm617]

Mrs Clause is a hostage that is forced to marry Tim Allen.

[@damonconway149]

Tyler’s life goal is to become Santa by murdering him stealing his coat and gaining a white beard.

[@danielm.berube3256]

Ok but Nazi Santa Tim Allen is one of the greatest movie villains of all time and you can't convince me otherwise

[@pepperedash4424]

He gives off more of a Mussolini impression than Nazi.

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@pepperedash4424 Esoteric Fascism with Christmas characteristics

[@ImortalZeus13]

@@pepperedash4424 Only Italians can give off fat fascist vibes. The skinny ones are German. Source: German Italian ancestry

[@pepperedash4424]

@@ImortalZeus13 Ha, ha. Yeah. But the Nazis are a bit too distinctive to be fascist.

[@yarlodek5842]

@@Jupiter__001_ I just lost my shit at this comment

[@barraman.]

I think a better name for this channel would be Tyler's Rant. No offense, I really mean it.

[@nickwalker7850]

Or, ThatGuyWhoMumbles. I mean if he can't control it, may as well make it a part of the brand. 🤷‍♂️

[@ChaplainJoshua]

Statistics suggest that Americans will swallow an average of 7 Tim Allens in their sleep every year.

[@unofficial_ai]

I love the Tim Allen Santa Clause trilogy.

[@dustinortiz3852]

Really enjoyed this

[@ChaplainJoshua]

I don't think so, Al.

[@AviRox1154]

The first movie has been a holiday staple for me since I was a kid. The other two are fun as well.

[@aidansullivan551]

Why does this sound like it was recorded underwater?

[@iwakurawoof]

@@ZetaFuzzMachine please explain, I don't understand why I'm supposed to listen on a cellphone

[@lukebaker5135]

Because he’s underwater

[@brakedustmcmuffins2858]

What do you have against water? Huh buddy

[@lordtrigon1733]

It was, Tyler’s unorthodox like that.

[@aidansullivan551]

So it’s not just me?

[@tdrizz08]

This channel is slowly becoming emplemon I love it

[@facundodiaz5582]

The next level of madness would be to review Christmas with the Cranks

[@Packitagain.]

Christmas with the Cranks is a great film nobody will ever change my mind.

[@benjamingiddens6758]

Christmas with the Cranks is dope what do you mean

[@facundodiaz5582]

I never denied it

[@lordtrigon1733]

Jack Saint did a great video on it and how it’s about living in a cult.

[@masterspongebat2387]

Tim Allen is an uncomfortable actor that doesn’t cross the line but comes really close to it and we just live with it

[@londonjolly9174]

The Winnie-The-Pooh animation at 7:00 or so fucking destroyed me. Tyler's insanity has finally got to me.

[@catisticallyspeaking]

>examples of "Christmas films" >8 Crazy Nights hmmmmmmmmmmm

[@TheDjpwn3]

I just really love that moment in the second one where he gives the school faculty a bunch of vintage toys. The way the first guy goes from "meh" to his face lighting up with childlike joy is just great to me

[@hollowhoagie6441]

Your comparison to all the holiday characters as gods got me thinking Jack Frost is Loki Tim allen Santa is Thor OG santa is Odin

[@davidhaggart1779]

So um how did this channel naturally evolve into this

[@sfmtv8399]

The 3 F's of evolution: Food, fear and fricking. It was a combination of those.

[@AndreIguodalaFan55]

Tyler has went completely insane when he had to research everything.

[@Tarsibu]

The natural process of mitosis, baby 🦠 or something.

[@DimensionsofChange]

A Christmas miracle.

[@mrcowcow599moomoo8]

Magic

[@snailsaredumb9412]

Her: "you gotta take care of this kid, tim!!!" Tim Allen: *"aaeeuuhhh??"*

[@thelunaist2014]

I guess Jack Frost was Thanos snaped outta experience once the timeline was restored.

[@blindedjourneyman]

U didnt watch it?

[@vincentroberson6624]

As you explain Santa Clause 3 it just keeps getting better and better

[@thatguy4084]

Waiting on Santa Clause: Forever After to fix the franchise

[@brandongabel]

Imagine this franchise was rated R

[@FatCatProductions]

Thinking about it. Maybe the elves don’t mourn the death of Santa cause his immortality has caused him to watch all his friends and family perish to age and they know he’s finally free of the curse.

[@meaninglez100]

"He constructed this whole narrative in his mind" There it is

[@tessaminick8745]

I always like to headcanon that the elves were trying to overthrow santa, and when Tim Allen came along, they were just real disappointed and just decided to go along with it until they'd kill him. Evidence for this comes from when they were enhancing his suit and Tim Allen goes, "What happens if I falls off the roof?," to no answer from any of the elves.

[@themoops8517]

So something interesting I noticed while rewatching these movies this year is that the elf’s don’t forget to tell Tim Allen he needs to get a wife, they just didn’t even know that was a rule until they were almost at the time limit. This means that every previous Santa was either already married or died within their first few years on the job before marriage became an issue.

[@The_Andyman]

I will be refering to Charlie as "Tim Allen Jr." from now on

[@amymialee]

So, they made a rule that killing Santa turns the killer into Santa in order to prevent Christmas from ending. Then in the second movie, they decide if the new Santa isn't married then that's a rule that just ends Christmas. So death is fine but being single? That's where we draw the line.

[@FelipeJaquez]

Santa Dictator will restore Christmas across the world by force! Viva La Nicholas!

[@TheWhiteDragon3]

You know, I never questioned just how weird these movies are until you decided to make a video on them. I don't know if that's a praise of the movies or a failure of my own judgement.

[@nullus8717]

Funny, I was watching the first one with my little sister the other night and thought about Knowledge Hub's 2000s Disney movies video.

[@Froggeh92]

Counter point: its just a modern greek epic about a great man who kills a god and ascends to demi god hood then has to join the other gods in olympus. Jack frost is just a northern wind spirit

[@koalasandwich567]

Honestly on my mom's sid of the family the first movie is basically just our inside joke, we constantly quote the movie to each other

[@-jamin-8135]

I was just rewatching these with my family and they are certainly something

[@darkpaw1522]

I like how in all 3 films they kill Santa Clause. Twice in the last film.

[@benservey9295]

I have seen the first and third movie in this trilogy many times. I didn't realize there was a second. I know I never saw it because I would have remembered fascist santa.

[@RojoFern]

Tim Allen santa targeting a coast guard C-130 with the north pole's ballistic missile arsenal at the beginning of film no 2 is the best moment in the history of the moving picture.

[@jarlbregadan914]

I love how you always find corruption and darkness in the most banale things, Tyler.

[@avalynpoe4441]

I remember how when I was young my parents warned me that Santa wouldn't come to our house if I didn't fall asleep. This pressure caused great anxiety in me that ironically kept me up half the night.

[@Kaizuka-eg9fd]

I remember watching these on tv when I was younger and loving them, hearing about them again makes me realize you shouldnt revisit your childhood favorites

[@JohnDoe-ns5su]

You should do a video on Icelandic Christmas folklore. Some of their folktale’s are wild.

[@osmankovacevic6135]

This i just a movie about how a business man who is a bad character can change regular people's perspective of his character if he clothes himself in the suit of a "charity". It's like Bill Gates story arch with Bill and Melinda foundation being the Santa Claus archetype.

[@_pascalwittwer]

That title made my entire fucking week. Props to you, KnowledgeHub.

[@arakano]

Great. I have more questions that I never thought I'd have. 1. What happened to the previous Mrs. Claus? 2. Why couldn't Jack Frost just kill Allen Claus in the present instead of having to go all the way to the past?

[@3goCh0sis]

Remember when this was a history channel?

[@worldlycashmoneyenterprises]

I like the part when robot tool time tim allen says he got a buzz drinking hot cocoa it killed me. Santa Clause 2 is my favorite.

[@lordmanatee439]

What happens to Mrs. Claus when the current Santa dies? She shares his immortality and can have kids. What happens to them? Do they just clear house like the Romanov's and kill all descendants of Santa?

[@shinsenshogun900]

Also, why can't the elves proclaim a proletariat dictatorship within every period of time whenever a Santa gets slain?

[@lordmanatee439]

@@shinsenshogun900 Idk, I wouldnt compare Santa in the Santa Clause universe with a bourgeois, he seems reluctant tbh. Also the elves are magical beings who seemingly enjoy making toys??? They could definitely get some benefits though, santa may just be the delivery man. Idk I've never seen them

[@skydaplaya6]

Watching the pre-video ad and I’m already so stoked for this video!!!

[@masterriolu8627]

All problems with society will disappear if this franchise becomes a quadrilogy.

[@TacticalAnt420]

I like the fact that you put karl marx as Santa Claus... I mean if the soviet union was still there, they would surely have did that.

[@blurblarted]

that the santa clause 2 movie trailer was at the beginning of my lion king vhs as a kid so your use of it is literally the funniest shit ive seen all day thanks

[@altoid2097]

I gotta wonder... if Santa had to be married, what happened to the wife of Santa who, ya know, fell of the roof? Was she like exiled or turned into a peasant?

[@thomaswilson3696]

Your videos make deficating all the more satisfying- in a very... VERY good way :)

[@MrChupacabra555]

3:15 : so....."You Keep What You Kill" from 'Chronicles of Riddick' then? Now all I can picture is Riddick dressed up as Santa, making some very EXTREME Christmas deliveries! ^_^

[@TheRatMan]

Both of you and Davo making Tim Allen Santa Clause shitposts is not something I entirely expected

[@TheG_Boy]

i actually love those movies because i grew up with them

[@jenzzuffer]

please just never stop making content. where ever you go you bring us entertainment

[@Robbsta77]

When alternate history gives us the gift of an alternate holiday special. Thanks Bro!!!!

[@nicholasabraham8082]

Larry King: How do you explain Tim Allen? Tyler: Proceeds to make video

[@sirnickels9979]

I love how the elfs aren't sad seeing a new Santa. Seems like they weren't happy with the old one

[@SpiralSine6]

“This doesn’t seem as ‘descending into madness’ as I was expecting it to b- oh *there* it is!”

[@Spartan117xxxxxx]

I love these types of videos so much. Thank you

[@tituslafrombois1164]

I always assumed Santa magic made parents think they bought those presents

[@chunkystains8950]

I actually think The Santa Clause 1 would still be a top Christmas hit if the other two sequels didn't muddy the waters of it's story.

[@FTLGuillotine]

Merry Christmas, and happy holidays- Tim Allan

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

This is the second video I've seen today that uses Nietzche's quote but for Santa 2020 Christmas season is best Christmas season

[@tsukiyo2161]

I remember watching these as a kid and went back to them on Disney + it was more enjoyable as a kid

[@DoctorX17]

... Still one of my favorite Christmas movie series

[@noahpettibon]

Classic KnowledgeHub fever dream. Thank you. The horror of the end revelation...

[@toastedrabbids8670]

I sure do this Santa Claus doesnt believe that evolution is fake

[@locustwolf]

Honestly I have zero idea what my wife buys anyone for Xmas from "us," so Santa could totally pull that shit and I would never notice.

[@tedrikgilly1944]

This channel and its creator have very clearly jumped completely off the rails and I fucking love it

[@hg2560]

The Tim Allen Multiverse must continue!

[@IronCoffin23]

I'm surprised you didn't address the concerns the second film raises, which is to say what happened to the previous Santa Clauses wife? If Santa dies, does she suddenly perish as well? Does she cease to exist? Is this something the wives of Santas are made aware of when they entire into the eternal Mrs. Clause contract? Did the elves realize that the previous Santa had shuffled off his mortal coil, and fall upon Mrs. Clause, ripping her to shreds? The question has kept me awake at night for years.

[@NamelessGamer29]

Congrats on the 800k subs!!

[@zeroperator]

Davo made his Santa clause the 2 video and Tyler said, I can do more

[@midas9197]

The Christmas movie with the most world building

[@gp8189]

Christmas Chronicles 2 might have it beat also it might be the worst movie I've ever seen

[@4rtie]

Nah, the Rankin/Bass holiday cinematic universe is arguably more complex

[@Septimus_ii]

You kinda have to in order to bulk out a sequel and a sequel to a sequel

[@alw2839]

@@4rtie What?

[@4rtie]

@@alw2839 there’s this magical thing called a “search engine” you can use for when you don’t know what something is. It’s usually even built into web browsers’ search bars nowadays!

[@pwabd2784]

The second movie raises the question pf what happened to the original Santa from the first movies wife.

[@thatguy4084]

Executed by the elves as to create a power vacuum for the new Mrs. Clause

[@scottishbananaclan]

Santa Clause 1: A new Clause Santa Clause 2: Revenge of the bot(s) Santa Clause 3: *n o t i m e t o d i e*

[@christianali5431]

Does Santa Claus movies should have been rise of the guardians, with a bit of extra comedy. At least that’s how I see it.

[@ErdrickHero]

Listen to your inner voice, Tim Allen.

[@austinmj64]

Santa clause Santa clause 2: marriage robot boogaloo Santa clause 3: Infinity Globes

[@PennTankerGuy]

"Where do they think it came from???" I love how his act kinda dies down a bit, just due to the sheer confusion.

[@realtombergeron5229]

i wanna watch the girth of a nation

[@yosoyringodesanantonio8405]

The First one is Weird The Sequel is Bizarre The Threequel is Worse (EVEN WHEN MARTIN SHORT IS IN SHITTYPROJECTS HE IS NO THANOS HE IS NOT INEVITABLE TO BE IN FUTURE PROJECTS)