The Scarlet Pokemon Mystery You Never Knew! 🌲 Pokémon Explained!

[@Gnoggin]

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[@tristanmartinez9326]

Oh its you

[@_sylbain]

wait how did you comment 6 mins ago when it just came out 4 mins ago

[@rafal.qwerty]

Can't you make an episode without sponsor from time to time? Now it seems like you don't post a video if there is no sponsor for that, and when there is some you can post video every other day.

[@jimmeyresendez5742]

I always theorize that fortress was a mid evolution image if the they release a final or different evolution can we get a concept art video of that

[@jazzy4830]

I always thought foretress was based on the Da Vinci tank with multiple cannons sticking out at different angles beneath a pale wood shell/carapace. the cannons and metal mechanical parts explain the steel typing and explosive moves.

[@prastarkeepers]

Talk about a suppressed memory surge. When I was a kid, we had a chestnut tree in my front yard, and one day I opened one and swore I saw a bug crawling around inside. It freaked me out and I avoided them for a long time after, and years later, I basically convinced myself I’d imagined it. Now, kid me is completely validated right down to the image. Thanks for that.

[@elyurias3910]

Lots of different insects lose their mouth parts as they metamorphize. It's pretty morbid, but plenty of them use their "adult" stages just to find a mate, lay eggs, and die. Many different moths and especially mayflies are known for this.

[@TheUltima_Werewolf]

Here's a cool fact! The Luna Moth has no digestive system and a vestigial mouth! It's only purpose is to mate and die in its extremely short life span. And they look super pretty too!

[@just_a_rebel8261]

Thank god I was born human 😶

[@beastmaster0934]

@@TheUltima_Werewolf I guess the luna moth took the opposite route to other moths.

[@bugjams]

Don't know who said this line, but there's a quote that goes something like, "A butterfly is a caterpillar's way of making more caterpillars." It seems strange to us because our lives are so long, and we're mostly the same creature our whole lives. To an insect, continuity of an individual isn't as important as continuity of the species.

[@themeraldsword1630]

Mosquito hawks also do this!

[@morgancrabtree6248]

I love how Maxill has been showing up in videos lately. I've always found his snark hilarious.

[@brandonprater4613]

💀👍

[@HideSeekTig]

Wait I thought the skull was called Gnoggin

[@brandonprater4613]

@@HideSeekTig ☝️🤓 It's his first name... Maxill A. Gnoggin.

[@BusinessSkrub]

​@@brandonprater4613 ha. Maxilla. Cause he's got a jaw on him

[@crimsonemperor2219]

What a coincidence, I was looking up for Forretress builds so I can troll my nephew in scarlet/violet and then this video pops up. The world works in mysterious ways

[@red4900]

IMO if you want a forretres build just use smogon's. (The random's one not the monotype one)

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

I used to use Sturdy Forretress with a Custap Berry and the moves Spikes and Explosion Not sure if Custap Berry is obtainable in SV, but if it is then just set up Spikes, and explode when you are in Custap Berry range

[@red4900]

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Man explosions effective bp was halved since last time it was viable

[@JJismyusername]

I gotta love min speed brave nature forretress holding a macho brace. Gyro ball does a ton

[@YourNamesTaken]

100th comment

[@itsjustken1109]

A WORMADAM VIDEO?? I salute you, dear creator. As a Wormadam Wormafan I endorse this episode.

[@evanallaire2829]

Yus

[@tacticabbage]

I never thought of "wormadam wormafan" we shall be known like that

[@NCSGaming15]

@@tacticabbage I will not be known as that, but I support you as my brothers Sincerely, A landlubbin grubbin matey

[@KnightsofGaming2016]

@@NCSGaming15 what's with all this terms and names? I want one too! >

[@tincat2347]

@@KnightsofGaming2016 what is the thing you do best?

[@raulribeiroms]

I always get mesmerized by the amount of research you put into your videos

[@PINEAPPLEY001]

12:50 it's also interesting that both chestnuts and some pinecones are known to 'explode' in certain conditions; chestnuts when roasting them without piercing the shell, while some pinecones burst or pop open. Which adds to the hand grenade and cannon ball aspect of the design

[@metarcee2483]

Also, pinecones explode when you put them in a fire, that's why they pop.

[@kennethsimmons2419]

I've always assumed that the trash form was steel type because the materials it uses to make the bag were man-made but this is an interesting way to look at it as well.

[@TheUltima_Werewolf]

That's what I thought too!

[@romanscum5678]

Let's be perfectly real here, the gamefreak designers were not thinking as deeply as him lol. It's 100% that.

[@qwertykins76]

I really wish Wormadam had a Bug/Ice form. Sinnoh has a lot of snowy routes to evolve it on and snow actually IS a great heat insulator. Little igloo bug. :3 Also everyone pronounced this Pokémon's name wrong. It's all-female, it's pronounced like the word madame.

[@loganbritton6737]

I'm wondering how YOU pronounce madame, because that's how I hear everyone pronounce is.

[@rotciv557]

Both the english madam and the french madame work perfectly for it as they are both terms for a lady. Saying it either way works.

[@hondaaccord1399]

As a kid I always imagined a lil sleepy dormant igloo Burmy and snowman Wormadam!! Snowmadam...? Snowormaam?

[@AustinSPTD1996]

He pronounced it the way Pokédex 3D Pro does it.

[@TheBeastlySort02]

WormaDAM!!!! Hehe

[@pak-mon1478]

This video feels exactly like when you start a conversation, then it transforms into a different topic and 10 minutes into that conversation you notice "a yeah, i wanted to talk about the other thing"

[@luckyday5721]

I've always loved Forrtress and am happy they get some attention

[@MoonMoon-cl4co]

A lot of Pokémon can seem really basic and uninspired- but you just got to dig a little deep! And you will really realize all the influences that go into any Pokémon! :)

[@BurritoBoi352]

I’m surprised that you didn’t mention periwinkles around 5:30, they live in rivers and use pebbles to make their cocoon, just like Burmy’s sand form!

[@hondaaccord1399]

Fl-Flower-

[@BurritoBoi352]

@@hondaaccord1399 There IS also a bug called a periwinkle, it just shares its name with a flower for some reason. Look up “periwinkle bug”

[@jaschabull2365]

Not to mention caddisflies!

[@harryto4820]

Periwinkles??? Like the snail . . .?

[@joelcarrillo9802]

Anytime there is a helix sponsor, I always get excited for the cat

[@TheRealDiamondJack]

An unexpectingly entertaining video! Once again, thank you Lockstin and Gnoggin

[@dawsonabernathy2723]

Lo

[@nolanheistad2526]

Lockstins videos are always entertaining good sir

[@TheRealDiamondJack]

@@nolanheistad2526 Facts

[@baddragonite]

I remember finding a bunch of these hanging from a tree as a kid and thinking they were small pinecones til my grandma explained them to me

[@baddragonite]

My headcanon is when pokemon designs were on the table Mothim was supposed to be in the dustox line originally. Mainly cause it has that sort of "fairy" body with tiny arms and legs the same as beautifly, and at some point dustox and Mothim got switched, sorta like Butterfree and venomoth probably did.

[@misterzygarde6431]

1:31 There was a huge missed opportunity to do Sinnohan Variants in BDSP along with having Hisuian Pokemon appear in the Grand Underground if you had a save for Legends.

[@fourkz]

Lockstin realizing he’s been mispronouncing a Pokémon’s name will always be a good bit

[@BBWahoo]

Who doesn't pronounce at least one pokemon name nowadays? I've heard a lot of poketubers pronounce Oinkologne without making the second part sound like Bologna

[@lostintime4now983]

​@BBWahoo well thats because it's spelled oink cologne which refers to its ability lingering aroma and aroma veil. Its got nothing to do with the fact bologna is made of pork. The difference between the e and a at the end make all the difference.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

​@@BBWahooActually, it's pronounced Köln

[@TheUltima_Werewolf]

​@@BBWahoo I used to pronounce Zygarde like Zi-Grade for some reason until I was watching the XYZ anime and they said the name correctly lol

[@BBWahoo]

@@lostintime4now983 My point still stands, but I turned out to be the example in this scenario xD

[@StaryRobyn]

That thumbnail😂 perfect timing tho my friend is shiny hunting for(edit)

[@lavieestbellexx]

Bagworm buddies! Love to see the variety you cover on your channel! I'm only a minute and a half in but already delighted! 💙

[@AuroraTheAvali3735]

Another interesting fact about death's-head hawkmoths: they squeak! As a defense mechanism!!! It's adorable! And i freaking love them! I'm hoping to get a tattoo of one eventually

[@corruptcamerupt2344]

I’ve always loved burmy, probably my favorite bug line. In a brilliant diamond nuzlocke I used a mothim and it almost made it all the way to the elite 4, also found a shiny alpha one in legends arceus. I’m currently using a trash wormadam in a platinum nuzlocke would have been screwed against Jupiter without it.

[@Nixoth]

All of these biologically accurate pokemon origins makes you wonder how many employees at gamefreak are specifically just biologists and not at all artists or engineers etc. Pretty cool to imagine

[@hondaaccord1399]

I just like to imagine that they all hyper fixate on biology and anthropology and stuff:3

[@zakoppi777]

pretty sure the pokemon dinosaur museum answers your question somewhat, anyone interested should check it out case my memory of it is pretty blurry

[@alexandergotze3323]

I always thought that Forretress was just a bug in a chestnut, glad to know that I was somehow kinda right

[@noahberan6498]

Wormadam and Mothim deserve more love! Thanks for this awesome video

[@greenhat8978]

Finally someone who understands what trash wormadam's cloak is made of. I've been telling my friends this for years and nobody would believe me... "no, it's cotton candy"

[@Romanticoutlaw]

if it was cotton candy, its typing would become normal or fairy type

[@hornedskullasmr7811]

12:30 Fortitress just DISMAN'D his way in

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

*FORRRETRE---BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM*

[@radiojazer4639]

Hey, just wanna say I love your video’s, they always give me a boost in eagerness to learn and energy. Keep up the fun and educational content, they certainly keep me, a bored student, more curios and help me better than most teachers. Thanks ❤

[@tobysvideos1227]

My theory about trash cloak burmy is that it’s bubblegum, a common type of litter. it’s steel type because litter is very common in a city, a very steel type place

[@davidcosta5099]

What is Forretress? It's goss, that's what it is. Those fleshy "cannons" gave me nightmares as a kid. I'm glad this video was mostly about another evolutionary line tbh.

[@raventreye2326]

Lockstin diving into old-gen designs that probably don't have that much thought put into them will always be entertaining

[@joeytoby1]

For Wormadam Trash I always just assumed it was Bubble Gum and other waste products cause it had to make its bag out of litter, hence the steel typing.

[@zacmayes2802]

If it was made out of waste products it would most likely be poison.

[@Brick_Eater_]

14:24 That Nutshack reference made me do a double take

[@johhnycash45]

“The girl isle” really got me. One of my favorite Lockstin lines so far.

[@MVi8]

a video about forretress and wormadam ???? THANK YOU I LOVE THESE FORGOTTEN UNDERRATED BUDDIES

[@outrage_swampert979]

Lockstin juggles the plushies at as, viewers, like a parent goggles keys to it's infant. I love it

[@KnightsofGaming2016]

Wait, if Forretress is supposed to be another bag worm/larva, why didn't it get the Mothim/Wormadam treatment and get an actual adult look for its final evo? Maybe in a future gen it would get a third evo?

[@johncronk8867]

To emphasize its mysterious nature, Go the Oltura/Magala route and make it a moth seraph.

[@bingus_factory]

Well, it's a fictional beast and we already got one that turns into a moth. I think there's room for something that's based on the larval form of a real animal while staying similar to it and not turning into the adult form of the real animal.

[@catriamflockentanz]

5:34 Funfact: There was a wife and husband team "exploiting" plaster worms. She a Goldsmith by trade and he a hobby entomologist came up with the idea to breed the worms in a controlled environment with nothing but tiny gold balls or jewel shards to make their bags with. These were popular for a while before people realized that finalizing these pendants, earrings and whatnot involved poisoning the poor worms and carefully prying their corpses from the bag they had crafted themselves. The two were convicted for animal cruelty. Which was quite significant. As bugs are usually classified as "unable to feel".

[@zachjaeger6401]

great video, I would however like to point out carcasses where incendiary not explosive, thou that is a rarely thought of distinction.

[@snailmail6831]

Burmy fuses with plants and becomes grass type. Floette fuses with a plant and stays fairy. It just seems odd, but it is the only 3-stage monofairy besides the cleffa line.

[@Kid_illithid]

I enjoyed the add read transition today lmao Clever use of Burmy

[@rubiconprime1429]

Ah yes, making a video about Burmy by disguising it as a Forretress video. Now that’s using your gnoggin.

[@ItsJoLapo]

Hey Lockstin, love the videos, curious question that just popped into my head, do you happen to suffer from colorblindness? This isn't a dig at all, I just happened to notice that around 10:55 when you were eluding to Mothim's color being an orange much like its real-world counterpart, the photo shown in the top left looks distinctly green in tone to me! I suppose it could just be the saturation of the picture and a whole new white/gold or blue/black dress situation, but I just thought that it might be neat to uncover a little Lockstin lore. Sorry if you've mentioned this in the past before if you do happen to be colorblind! Keep up the great work and thanks for the informative vids as always!

[@CaitlinPink8]

Always though trash form was made of bubblegum because of the fact that gum can always be found on the ground and is pink and lumpy but that really does not equate to steel type lol! It would make more sense to be fairy ( not a type at the time) but is typically seen in food pokemon. Or poison because of trash lol

[@robomix3162]

I remember in 1st-2nd school, we had i think 4 chestnut trees on a lil' hill in front on the playground, and we used to throw them around.. or at each other.. and i remember being FASCINATED by the green spiky shells, usually i would find some still mostly in the shells, that *just* had fallen from the tree, with like one crack they got from falling, and trying to open them up, and it was REALLY DIFFICULT (tho i *was* a 5-7 y.o. and not very athletic as is) so Forretress being steel type not just because its a fortress/cannonball thing makes me really happy bc at least SOMEONE also thought that opening those fuckers is like a war in it of itself (or I'm just grasping at straws in denial)

[@monkeymanspunkyman]

OMG FINALLY idk why but I’ve always loved pineco and forretress

[@nikolimoon6165]

FUN FACT!: Remoraid and Octillary are a reference to weaponry advancement Remoraid is a gun(more noticeable in the beta design) And Octillary is a tank(again a bit more noticeable in the beta design) But since pokemon is (mostly, Phantump’s dex entry, I’m lookin at you.) kids’ game, they had to simplify the designs

[@kupaakaleo137]

8:15 it makes sense, but I do have to argue that the fiberglass would still have to count as the steel-type thing itself since they do the same thing with Alolan Diglett and Dugtrio with their fiberglass hairs

[@Glory2Snowstar]

New Lockstin arthropod video, today is very gud :) I actually love the Wormadam line so I’m hyped to see this! I remember Wonder Trading Dream Ball HA Burmy in Gen 7 since they were only possible to get through breeding, and snagging a few fun wins with Sucker Punch Trash Cloak!

[@taltenyyo]

Mentioning that he looks like a Spanish fortress makes me realize how much sense it makes that he's in the Paldea Region, I wonder if it could be a reason for other older pokemon to be there... maybe video idea?

[@edgargaebolg9307]

Pine trees were used to repopulate lots of forests in Spain. That's another potential reason for Pineco to be there

[@gerglefinn8281]

I actually have a different explanation for the trash burmy. The trash the burmy collects some soil along with it and when combined the metal and soil create a reddish-pink color. To me that makes more sense for a trash form and gaining steel type compared to just insulation.

[@starsilverinfinity]

Man I wasnt expecting this but Im glad I watched it

[@icycatelfgraphics4920]

And with their ability to learn Spikes, let's not forget about exploding caltrops. After finding one that reminded me of it the other day, I feel that Forretress could also pull inspiration from iron-oxide concretions. Formed in layers and sometimes containing soft red or yellow minerals, it's not uncommon for these rocks to be mistaken for fossil nuts or shells. This ties into Forretress' red (or yellow if Shiny) core as well as its resemblance to a walnut/chestnut and clam, and could explain why Brock has one in the anime. There are also concretions known as "cannonball concretions," tying it into your cannonball theory.

[@blazechaos212]

But Brock caught it as a Pineco.

[@icycatelfgraphics4920]

@@blazechaos212 True, but that could've been decided because it evolves into a Pokémon that is (potentially) influenced by a type of rock. Kind of like how Misty has Azurill and Lana Eevee.

[@ashleycurzon6348]

my question is why does forretress' shell in scarlet and violet look like it's made of metal all of a sudden, seems they're really laying into the cannon ball aspect of the design.

[@TheRealCM5]

Lockstin, if you’re listening can you please make a Flabébé video? I love Flabébé and I would like to know more about it’s origins. Keep making great content!

[@goli8699]

Forget what Diglett looks like underground, what Pineco looks like naked is now the biggest mystery

[@Britty_B]

Hooray, Forretress video! I’ve always really lived it, and am glad to finally find out about what it is other than an clam bagworm thing, it’s organism are way more interesting than I thought they’d be

[@hondaaccord1399]

I'm sorry the Forretress video is so full of the Burmy family 😭

[@BardsLoot]

Since Forretress is a chestnut and it’s weakness is fire, I see we can roast our chestnuts over an open fire!

[@orryip]

I've never been a fan of bug types AT ALL but this video really gave me a newfound appreciation for Burmy, Wormadam, and Mothim. Thank you for your explanations!

[@DaytonsWorldReviews]

i met you at portland retro gaming expo, i brought up my love for pineco and had you sign my psp copy of Big Daddy, and you told me you were making a video all about the bagworm pokemon. very excited to see it finally come out!!

[@VampirePrinceKRS]

I needed this vid. it always confounded me why a Bug Pinecone turned into what seemed to be some sort of Steel Giant Clam. if Forretress is some kinda nut that makes a lot more sense :)

[@CGaboL]

After seeing the Forretress plushy, I can only think of Chuggaaconroy's LP of Pokémon Coloseum complaning that there was no merch of it that he could find... 10 years ago! I can't believe that it's been 10 years since then, but I digress.

[@ItsDangerX]

Is this vid’s title a Treesicle reference? That was my first thought after seeing it and was certainly nice to see

[@sb6196]

That was my thought as well.

[@monhunterz5430]

If Forretress is a tree nut, then does that mean there are giant tree nuts in the Pokemon universe?

[@justinjyeung]

Everyone talks about how Forretress looks like a giant clam, so I'd love to see a convergent form that *is* a giant clam, they could call it Mollustress. (And instead of Pineco, its pre-evolution could be some bivalve that resembles a pinecone, and it shall be called Marineco) XD

[@gustavju4686]

Makes me realize that Pineco is a good mon to have a convergent evo counterpart. A grass type that is actually a pinecone.

[@smugsneasel]

And I was just thinking about the Pineco line a week ago to potentially do some art about. Does a week ago count for coincidence? For an obscure pokemon like this, I think it does.

[@thomashicks9555]

9:07 same thing here. i thought it looked like a pepperoni pizza as well.

[@jiazeng6485]

This is the most cursed thumbnail from this channel for a mile.

[@jiazeng6485]

*by a mile btw

[@KingKuron_]

Forretress's metal shells in SV are really cool to see.

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

Especially when shiny. Looks like it was touched by King Midas

[@crimsontanooki7212]

Could you please explain Dondozo and Tatsugiri?

[@BrianDeBrain_]

Forretress is one of my favorite pokemon. Super cool typing and he just looks cool af.

[@Snqwy]

That thumbnail is incredible

[@silikerYT]

I used wormadam in my pokemon legends playthrough, and now it's a favorite of mine... I also had cherrim so I had to hunt for it anyways

[@MrBizznessMan]

I came up with a theory awhile back that Hisuian Voltorb is some kind of a bagworm itself that lives inside of Apricorns. But rather than a bug, its some kind of electrical creature. And when Pokeballs became solid capsules (possibly plastic like real life toy capsules) They got stuck inside them, and all that energy builds up without releasing. Turning them into explosive lithium batteries!

[@andreblueboy6019]

0:14 the fact that you used Jake and the neverland pirates ship for the boat reference makes this even funnier than it needs to be! Props to the original thoughts you had as a kid honestly!

[@cjlite0210]

"You see, plants kind of don't move on their own- AHUUGGH!"

[@timtom5968]

I love how this video gave lots of lore about forretress. Can you do a video talking about what Glimora is?

[@JamesTheKoopaTroopa]

I'm a MASSIVE fan of bug type pokemon and I really, really appreciate yall making a video about my buggy pals! I've often hoped we'd get an evolution for forretress, but know this theory about being based on the nut makes so much sense I'm gonna accept it as my own personal head-cannon.

[@Gyrhoe]

That scream of fear when the plant falls being perfectly cut hit my funny bone. Thanks XD

[@TheLadyLiddell]

It's always good to see Maxill in so many recent videos. I'd buy a plush!

[@FunnyFany]

"[Insulation] sounds like the perfect material if it wasn't full of fiberglass." >this episode was sponsored by Helix Sleep lol. lmao, even

[@derarnor]

I really love that you are explaining the design of the most random pokemon xD

[@dmaster5556]

I always thought the pink on trash cloak Burmy was chewed up gum and the little metal pieces were like broken pieces of a paperclip.

[@Luffy453]

14:07 Now I want a regional evolution for Pineco that looks like that

[@giboit.]

Some interesting details about the Shellos and Gastrodon forms in Scarlet and Violet: The dex entry for West shellos states that there´s more of them (in current times) than in the past and the one for East shellos says that the east form is currently decreasing in number. However, this situation is reversed with the dex entries for Gastrodon: The dex entry for West gastrodon says that (in the past) this form used to be by far the most numerous one, while the one for East Gastrodon states that this one was less numerous in the past but that now is currently increasing in number. So you have west shellos going up in number but its evolution, West Gastrodon, going down and then East Shellos going down in number but East Gastrodon going up. So, why this happens? Considering that some dex entries (like the ones from SwSh) state that shellos physique is affected by its habitat (warm oceans causes west shellos and cold oceans causes east shellos) the explanation as to why the west pre--evolution is more abundant and why the East evolution is more abundant at the same time is pretty interesting: Either due to Paldea´s natural weather (or even due to global warming in the pokemon world causing more warm oceans), one version doesn´t need to evolve that often and the other one needs to evolve in order to survive in a least favorable weather. So you find more pre-evolutions of the west version by comparison to the east version for that reason. Because the East shellos form (that is the one more suited for cold oceans) tends to evolve more often in order to survive into the (currently warmer) oceans of Paldea/the pokemon world and thus are more common to find evolved as gastrodon while West Shellos doesn´t need to evolve into West Gastrodon that often to survive because it´s already into a warmer ocean. And thus, its evolution is less common to be seen.

[@unclegeorge37]

Are we sure this isn’t a Burmy episode?

[@Veltal-for-your-information]

I thought the name was pounced for-trees before hearing pounced the correct (I have a connection with forretress since I have a marked shiny of it in violet)

[@ThatBluDude]

Found a shiny Forretress about an hour after I watched this! ...Was looking for, and used the Herba Mystica for a shiny Toedscool/cruel but you know. Still a cool coincidence.

[@dragonboyjgh]

You brought up their cannonball and grenade relation without bringing up the fact they know self destruct which is otherwise totally unusual for a pinecone and nut?

[@monst3r_child832]

1:08 "It was a time when game freak was significantly more known for putting in programming mistakes... I see not much has changed" lol the shade! that line killed me... i am now a ghost type.

[@andreapareti324]

12:10 with subs on, you can read talk about a Bug/Dark regional variant.. glimpse at an older version of the script, maybe originally written before Lokix was revealed?

[@coolguy5133]

Did Lockstin make a Deez nuts joke? Also, Nut cannon, lmao!

[@KelKav]

Pineco obviously has a mimikyu inside of it.

[@jaschabull2365]

I remember when I first saw wormadam and mothim, I wondered why the designers didn't do something similar with volbeat and illumise (there are some glowworms which are actually adult female fireflies which are wingless similar to female bagworms). It wasn't until quite a bit later that it hit on me that of course illumise has to have wings - it's a *flapper*!

[@TheNotoriousTugboat]

WHEN DOES GNOGGIN GET A PLUSH! I need to know ( and would totally buy one)

[@BasicGeometry]

The plant moving on its own made me HOWL

[@timwoods2852]

Don't forget about Pine Nuts. Pinecones actually have decently big seeds that are eaten as nuts.