The Schmeisser MP-28,II at the Range

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We have previously looked at the original MP-18, the System Schmeisser improvement, and the followup MP-28,II design on the table - but we have not taken the MP-28 out to the range. So, that's what we are doing today - how does it compare to its Schmeisser-magazine predecessor?
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[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

The barrel jacket of the MP18 is just sexy to look at. IDK why, but perforated barrel jackets look awesome in my eyes.

[@hunglikeahorse120]

Same with the PPsh series of smgs. Although the PPsh-41 is the coolest of all of them but of course that is just my opinion.

[@rjward1775]

I now wanna barrel shroud everything. And wooden stocks/lowers of course.

[@nickverbree]

The MP-18/28 really does it for me too. I think part of it is the square cut front of the shroud with the vent holes drilled in it. *Ian style chef's kiss*

[@awmperry]

It's that classic vintage look. MP28, Sten, Sterling, Blastech E-11... everything that brings to mind films and war stories of the 80s. (And No One Lives Forever, of course.)

[@LN997-i8x]

@@nickverbree I'm a big fan of the early Suomi, with its odd slanted muzzle end.

[@anditcomesbacktoyou]

A range video? On a Thursday? Truly blessed we are.

[@georgewashington7312]

Praise gun Jesus!

[@marvindebot3264]

All praise to our Lord, hail Gun Jesus!

[@beargillium2369]

I prefer disassembly videos but to each their own

[@cdwg273]

Truly based he is.

[@ironwolfF1]

Heh, like Ian was going to pass up a chance to fire that baby up. 😉👍

[@Chilly_Billy]

IMO, first generation SMG's like this are the coolest of the breed.

[@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII]

Toob guns is best guns

[@PhilipFear]

Bill, it's always a bigger kick, IMHO, when it's a piece of history like this that you get to pick up and shoot.... As opposed to a replica..... I've fired 5 or 6 different reproduction 1873 Sharps rifles, and they were fun to shoot but none of them could compare to the actual 1873 Sharps that was made in 1882 that I was allowed to fire..... One that had actually been out on the prairie of America in the 1880's and probably dropped a Buffalo or 2 on the way across America to feed a wagon train.... The same with the 1873 trap door Springfield I owned that traced back to to 1883 US ARMY Infentry with it's bayonet and broken shell extractor.... Lord only knows the miles some soldier may have carted that rifle through history..... Or the M1 Garand I had that was a CMP Rebuild from Korea that was lost in combat and bought back, and rebarreled to shoot again.... I could have put a new stock on it, instead of the split and pinned back together original.... But what pages of history would be lost in doing that❓🤔❓🇺🇲 That's why the MP5SD SMG that I shot was the finest SMG I ever used, but didn't give me near the chills that I felt when I got to fire an original 1928 Thompson with the vertical grip, the Cutts Compensater, and the 50 round drum..... The MP5 was a vastly superior weapon..... But I still got a bigger kick (pun) out of the Tommy gun..... That's why I feel Ian has the greatest job in the world (at least one of them) and he's one of the greatest at doing that job.... Because he always seems to find a way to give his audience a little piece of that feeling to each of us To keep and take with us.... So thank you for that Sir.... A satisfied customer

[@LN997-i8x]

The coolest, but also the heaviest!

[@ShikiRen]

Aye. I love this design in particular.

[@badcallsign4204]

I’m a big fan of the MP5, but reflecting on your comment, I really can’t say I disagree. First Generation SMGs really are cool as hell aren’t they? The MP28 is my absolute favorite in this category.

[@jeffreyholdeman3042]

Ian- “it does have a selector lever, I suppose I should demonstrate semi-auto” Everyone watching- no. You’re good, carry on.

[@Nafeels]

The Germans are proving time and time again that they made some of the scariest sounding weapons. Thanks for the demonstration, Ian!

[@roberthahn3710]

That’s NOT scary! Be on shore with a US BATTLESHIP launching a barrage of 18 inchers in your general direction, NOW THAT IS SCARY!

[@oceanhome2023]

When a many holed perforated heat shield is displayed you just know that it is not going to end well for you ! That IS the evil looking part . If this shrouded barrel was put on a bolt action 22 it would be banned in California for that fearful reason !

[@fn5756]

Imagine you're marching through the Teutoburg forest in 9 AD with your Roman battle buddies and suddenly you hear 2:21

[@kevinohalloran7164]

@@fn5756 I'd be pretty scared to hear it in 1944, surrounded by buddies with Garands, never mind year 9.

[@Baphomane]

@@roberthahn3710cope harder

[@edm240b9]

The usage of a Sten gun magazine begs the question, can the Sten take MP28 mags?

[@myparceltape1169]

Wait a little and he will try that.

[@damienairalay552]

A fair question, if I've ever heard one

[@_ArsNova]

Theoretically yes, they are essentially the same.

[@JohnnyLouisXIX]

Yes they can.

[@edm240b9]

@@_ArsNova I think I figured out the myth of Sten taking MP40 magazines. It can’t, but many say it can because of manuals saying it can accept “Schmeisser” magazines. However, as many of us know, the British soldiers called the MP40 the “Schmeisser,” despite neither brothers being involved with the design. But, with this revelation, and Schmeisser being involved with this gun, then it’s actually true that the Sten can take “Schmeisser” magazines. And by that, we mean the actual “Schmeisser,” and not the MP40.

[@Ginrummy33]

I can see why it's "smooth" in the slo-mo, as the bolt slows and stops just before it hits the back of the receiver, it looks like, so no slamming going on with a too soft spring or too light bolt. It's tuned juuuust right. :)

[@Hirosjimma]

holy crap pay attention to his upper arm in the slow-mo! You can see his triceps tensing up and relaxing in sync with the gun.

[@CurtHowland]

I should have looked to see if anyone else noticed before commenting myself. It was a couple years ago the first time that feature was noted, and I look for it in all automatic slow-mo sequences ever since.

[@cognitivedisability9864]

@@Ramonatho truly. People think the guns we have now are much more advanced lol. Same ideas just new fancy furniture, light weight alloys etc... I'd say small arms development from the 1950s (ak/ar) to now hasnt changed much. They keep trying to reinvent the wheel basicly. Go look at the fg42 8mm mauser full auto at an insane rate of fire and the weight is nearly the same as modern combat rifles, the recoil isnt even that crazy on it from what ive seen from videos.

[@winstonsmith313]

Amazing: sounds exactly like in the movies! Must have fired 10,000 rounds in “Where Eagles Dare”.

[@seafodder6129]

I was thinking much the same thing.

[@desertwolf3818]

That is a great movie.

[@winstonsmith313]

@@desertwolf3818 Might have more automatic weapons fire than any other movie I’ve seen!

[@shura0107]

That's the movie I call "Clint Eastwood Kills Everyone" I once sat and tallied all his kills in that movie, and it was in the 30s, compared to Richard Burton's handful. Also, that long range kill shot on the tower from the back of a moving bus with an MP-38/40. Funny enough, Eastwood had just come off doing the spaghetti Westerns and had built a reputation for playing the dangerous gunman, only to completely eclipse his kill count in this one movie than all his westerns combined.

[@lucas82]

This sounds more like in that movie but in the movie they use MP-40s, which sounds somewhat differently IRL.

[@83j049733rfe4]

That chef's kiss at the end is what tells me he's getting one for himself if he ever gets the chance. You just don't blow a chef kiss over anything sort of perfection.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

A terrifying soundtrack too. I can't imagine running through a Northern European forest listening to that interspersed with the barking of German Shepherds coming after you.

[@18Krieger]

Something I imagine as scary as fuck: Imagine you are a young american/british man, joined the armed forces to kill some Nazis and protect your nation and free others. You are all lit up but then you see wounded, your first corpses. You think: "No big thing, scrifices happen and the germans are retreating, war is almost won." Than you get into combat, in the woods and you hear (sub-)maschinegun fire, angry german voices, screams of agony, plains humming over your head and then artillery bombardment. Hearing the old reports of former soldiers from any side are so chilling.

[@cognitivedisability9864]

@@18Krieger id shit my pants if a mg42 let loose in a quiet forest i was patrolling in. That thing will rip you apart. Not to mention the roar of that gun...

[@ramonandrajo6348]

@@18Krieger Nice try, sheep.

[@ramonandrajo6348]

Shepherds coming after you? Riiiiiiiight. ;)

[@CurtHowland]

As with a couple of other full auto guns you've featured, it's obvious in the slow-mo the bolt never reaches the rear of the receiver. There's no impact. So the spring stretches out recoil _evenly_ over the entire travel of the bolt. This dramatically increases the control and comfort firing, as is obvious from the slow-mo segments. Something I look for now every time.

[@docskate4312]

I love how Ian puts great effort in pronouncing German names correctly.

[@marvindebot3264]

I've always known it as a fact but it still is a huge source of both wonder and amusement that a Sten mag fits a 1920s German SMG (and visa versa).

[@Natedawgontheright]

It was the original glock mag.

[@_ArsNova]

And ironically the gun that came 20 years later (Sten) was a much worse gun, even given was designed to be as cheap as possible.

[@JohnnyLouisXIX]

The Sten was a simplification of the Lancaster wich was a copy of this.

[@Hirosjimma]

Knowing that Ian says the magazine makes or breaks the smg, that is one hell of a magazine design.

[@captainswoop8722]

It was deliberate. It means you can use any captured magazines. Very important if you are dropping them to the resistance movements or you are a commando on a raid.

[@jamesbridges7750]

Watching the bolt handle, it's not bottoming out in the reciever- constant recoil before constant recoil.

[@AM-hf9kk]

It's really wild that such a small change can make such a large impact on how the gun handles in high-speed video. With so many SMGs you see the bolt slam the back of the receiver and the shooter gets jerked and the muzzle bounces off target. A heavier recoil spring or a slightly longer receiver completely eliminates that.

[@PapaSchultz74]

Please bare in mind todays 9mm ammos are absolutely not the same as the ordonance 9mm of the german army. Usually they used +P+ loads with steel core bullets. They might not had the same behavior at the time.

[@johnnyrocko2933]

I know there are a lot of sub guns out there but if I could afford one this would be it. 👍

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

What an insanely cool looking gun! That would still sell, even in semi only.

[@paulrapp6]

Ian, Range videos are great. It is too bad you cannot do one for every firearm that passes through your hands. But I know that is a complete impossibility. Does the bouncing mag on the MP28 cause any wobble in the gun when you fire it? Many thanks for ForgottenWeapons and the unique content you bring us.

[@TheAlexagius]

I hope whoever buys this enjoys it

[@Hidalguense]

Sucks to be broke

[@thegunbox81]

Still the sexiest sub gun ever made, not to mention classy.

[@MythicMagus]

So Ian between the Thompson, Suomi, and MP-28/18, which of the first gen SMGs do you prefer to shoot?

[@marvindebot3264]

Pretty sure the answer would be Suomi hands down.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Suomi.

[@AL3NOD1]

@@ForgottenWeapons good awnser!

[@marvindebot3264]

@@ForgottenWeapons Yup, I knew it 😊

[@terry7907]

Ah, but what about the FRENCH first gen SMG??? Not sure what that was.

[@jetsonIFY]

No gun is "quite" Thompson heavy! LOL

[@hipithautaa]

Suomi is :D

[@_ArsNova]

@@hipithautaa The Suomi at least benefits by having virtually no recoil. The Thompson is still a beast to control and weighs a ton to boot.

[@hendriktonisson2915]

1920s and 1930s SMGs are really beautiful and interesting.

[@ДімаПопович-ж8к]

Damn,just watched mp-28 vids yesterday... truly,a blessing from the gun Jesus

[@spartanhawk7637]

Truly is there anything more satisfying than that loud *CHUGCHUGCHUG* of an early SMG?

[@MalikCarr]

There's a great video of Jerry Miculek doing a magdump with a Grease gun, he says he thinks he can shoot a pistol faster than that thing fires on full auto. (spoiler: he can)

[@leroyjenkins4811]

Ian, you’re the best! You never disappoint. I didn’t even expect you to shoot this gun but you did anyway. Thanks!

[@prdubi]

Briefly owned a Lanchester registered tube gun, wondering if someday you can do a comparison video and a short range video on both. My Lanchester was at my dealer awaiting the papers when my dealer called me and said if I'm interested in doubling my money plus some change left over, let him know. Sadly, I fell for it but made up for it in getting an SWD m/11. Sometimes, I have regrets but seeing and hearing the sirens of the dollar signs calling, it was hard to say no. Thanks for doing this video. Gorgeous sub machine gun.

[@JackFlemingFan1]

Thanks for posting yet another of your excellent videos as well as telling the history of whatever weapon you show and shoot too.

[@richardhayes5423]

Love ur content. I’m ex service British army and my first personal weapon was a Sterling. Which I loved. Keep up the great work

[@blank557]

Built like a tank, with milled steel, that old school manufactured gun last forever with normal maintenance. Want.

[@AlexN2022]

those perforated shrouds... I would pay twice the price just for those. Any time.

[@nbenicewicz]

Does that mean that the magazines from the MP-28, MP-38/40 and STEN guns are all interchangeable with each other?

[@kevinoliver3083]

Theorerically yes. And with the Lanchester. But you have to check each magazine with each gun, to make sure the tolerances match.

[@michaelb6729]

Is it just me or did we see a version on this on the Battle of Hoth ?? . . . . that muzzle design !

[@1SaG]

Not according to imfdb. It's been a while since I watched the movie, so I wouldn't rule it out, but perhaps what you saw was a Sterling? Those were widely used in the OT (as the Stormtroopers' standard issue blasters) and they also have perforated barrel-shrouds and feed from the side. Although neither feature is really prominent on the modified Sterlings in the film.

[@michaelb6729]

@@1SaG , we all know about the Sterling. It is that end muzzle design and barrel jacket, I've seen it somewhere .... I just can't put my finger on it. 🤔

[@slavsupreme5129]

If I had to guess, you’re talking about the DLT-20a??

[@davidwevans4132]

@@slavsupreme5129 No, the DLT-20a had a kind of Sloped Cone shape to it. And it is not perforated. It is only perforated on the Barrel Jacket.

[@danletter9357]

This is one I’d like to own, but then again, I say that for just about all of them

[@effynme]

Good morning Ian. Thanks for the vid.

[@alexandreroma8118]

Salut Ian Just to let you know, I am getting 2 adds before playing your videos. I was under the impression you had selected to not monetize your videos, if so, it appears KZbin is monetising your videos and possibly not sharing any of the proceedings with you. There is also an add at the end, so 3 adds in total.

[@TheDagraner4576]

I believe youtube decided awhile ago that it was going to play ad's on all videos regardless of monetization. I could be wrong though.

[@Christian---]

@@TheDagraner4576 A good portion of channels I watch are censorially demonetized, can confirm anecdotally.

[@crunchysuperman]

InRangeTV elected to demonetize, not Forgotten Weapons.

[@jonprince3237]

Man, you know you're living in a crazy world when a Sten magazine is the most reliable one you have. There's a bit of myth going around that MP38/40 magazines will fit the Sten, which they don't, but now I'm wondering if that myth actually comes from MP18/28 and Sten mags being interchangeable?

[@Elmarby]

Wait, what? Ian tells us that the MP-28 magazine becomes the MP38/40 magazine. Odd then that the Sten mag would fit the one but not the other. Suddenly I feel like I could stand to watch a MP18/28/38/40 and Sten magazine deepdive.

[@jonprince3237]

@@Elmarby Ian isn't incorrect as the basic design formed the basis of the MP38/40 magazine and Lanchester/Sten, but there seems to be minor dimensional differences to the MP38/40 magazines that mean they're slightly too wide for the Sten magazine housing, even though they look near identical. Out of curiosity we tried multiple original Stens with multiple MP38/40 magazines and none of the latter would fit. I'm assuming that if a Sten mag fits an MP28 then the latter's mags would indeed fit a Sten though. Anyone own an MP28 magazine and Sten who'd like to try it and report back?

[@LadyAnuB]

Can this be a Stemple Takedown Gun?

[@phaserrifle3]

I don't think so. Because the stemple design has the fire control parts in line with the magazine port, and the charging handle at 90° to it. To have a left hand feed they'd end up with the charging handle slot on the bottom of the gun, and the slot for the sear on the left.

[@DefunctYompelvert]

The MP28 was based off the MP18 (first SMG of WW1) and was the basis for first British SMG of WW2 (Lanchester) which was simplified to the STEN, which was copied by the Germans for the MP3008 as the last German SMG of WW2.

[@Rumrunner-55]

0.55 second mark im scared for Ians fingers lol

[@Pimthrow]

Funny, it even sounds like from the 1920s

[@andrewince8824]

Watching the slow-mo I can see that this beast has relatively soft recoil. The bolt is slowed by that recoil spring beautifully, no horrible jerkiness of a bolt hitting the back of the receiver.

[@bliblablubb9590]

The slow motion makes it clear how incredibly stable one can fire the gun.

[@keithplymale2374]

If I could ever own an SMG is would be one with wood and steel parts. Just what I would want.

[@apollohateshisdayjob9606]

First listen, 28 rounds? I'm an Archer fan, so I was just curious if my counts correct lol

[@geodkyt]

Every Sten mag I've ever used was *far* happier with only 28 rounds in it.

[@Hordalending]

*Admit it; This weapon is one of Mankind's greatest achievements*

[@alexanderm3504]

Last time I was this early, my right arm was the same size as my left arm

[@J.DeLaPoer]

The MP-18 is one of a handful of selectfire arms I actually have experience with. It is front heavy and quite off-balanced with those drums, but I find the weight and slow rpm keep them extremely controllable vs. others I've tried. It's no match for my Suomi, but I do much prefer its aesthetics.

[@johnbowe4564]

The slow and methodical fire rate make me happy I found this chanle

[@wolfsmith2865]

And, from then on, Ian's "Kerchunk" became a technical term used far and wide in the shooting world...

[@kevinohalloran7164]

Hey, isn't that the same cadence of fire as in a LOT of '50s - '60s cartoons wherein there's a machine gun? A scene in Breezely Bruin comes to mind. Jonny Quest, also. Corrections & disagreements welcome. But be poloite (spelling deliberate); I'm Canadian, ay?

[@Oct14cya]

Last Saturday I got to shoot the MP-34. Nice! The MP-40 is still my favorite.

[@theblindsniper9130]

I want one of these, but im unable to get one currently Guess ill just have to make one. Semi auto, closed bolt of course.

[@cycoholic]

That ia one nice looking smg.

[@_ArsNova]

Essentially perfection in the making. No real fundamental differences between it and arguably by the best SMG ever made, the MP-38/40, just the ergonomics and ease of manufacture being perfected.

[@_ArsNova]

@@zoiders The folding stock is probably it's biggest weakness as a firearm I'll agree, but it was one of the first of it's kind worked reasonably well. But if you told me to pick the best 9mm SMG in the world today with iron sights, I'd pick the MP 40 over any gun save the MP5 and UMP. I agree though the PPS 43 is a very good gun and I'd rate it second best of the war. Sten Mk 5 was good enough, it was still just a Sten but one that actually worked reliably lol.

[@_ArsNova]

@@zoiders I have, and I have a fairly extensive collection of this period firearms as well.

[@mikebrase5161]

Sweet. I used to work in a Military museum which had one. I was amazed at how heavy they are due to not being stamped metal.

[@lukecat3825]

I am lucky enough to own a transferable MP18 with the snail drum magazine. It is a heavy sub gun and has light recoil and a very smooth action. It’s quite noticeable with the snail drum mag inserted.

[@caeserromero3013]

Make a little Bergman in your soul 😂

[@raphlvlogs271]

the massive slot on the side still allows dirt to get in to the system easily.

[@Binhotecnologia]

GTA

[@JerryRey404]

I have to ask a potentially stupid question. Watching range videos I get the impression that modern SMGs are quieter than this one, or other WW2 or earlier guns. Is it just a perception error due to audio quality? Or is there an actual design reason for that?

[@artemis_smith]

What I like about inter-war SMGs is, most of them are exceptionally nice. Their design says "trench broom" but their manufacture and finish says "display gun." It's like somewhere between the concept stage and production, someone said "what if we make it as expensive and as shiny as possible, guaranteeing our design won't actually be used in combat due to cost constraints?" When WWII broke out, design philosophy became "we have some sheet metal, some springs, some pipe, and you can use the wood from the pallet they came on *if you have to.* You have until yesterday to make a machine pistol design." Such a stark contrast between guns like the one in the video and a Sten or a Grease Gun.

[@k3D4rsi554maq]

Wartime guns aren't expected to see long service.

[@jonathanb1916]

I love that what we would see as a safety is actually a fun switch

[@andrewg9216]

What is it about first gen SMGs with side mags that is just so.....alluring. Hell even the Stem and Sterling catch my eye from time to time.

[@damienairalay552]

The nine dislikes are those disgruntled employees who got there design sold off. Lol much. Love your content. Keep up the show

[@awmperry]

Fascinating to see just how little movement there is in the slow-mo. No muzzle rise at all, barely any visually apparent motion... looks hugely comfy to shoot.

[@highlandoutsider]

Holy cow that thing just does not climb!

[@erehwon80]

My maternal grandfather wasn't a huge fan of the Lanchester SMG, having used it extensively in the RN working in landing craft with Combined Ops.

[@yuuyakizami2133]

The German Version of the Sten, nice. Btw, I got a little... Request, to review the SOCIMI Type 821 Submachine gun. It's alright to refuse, I'm just wondering.

[@exabyte6471]

Wow, I've never been this early to a video. 3 minutes, new record!

[@areed2000]

It is so awesome to see someone archive historical firearms and then be fortunate enough to take them to the range.

[@LessAiredvanU]

MP18: Okay, soldier, anything to make it better? Soldier: Ummm...Nein? MP18: Manufacturer? Manufacturer: Jah! Not so intricate and expensive! Soldier: ...But just as goot! MP28: I got vis!

[@comiketiger]

Ian, do you need any help? Mag loader? Firearm maintenance associate, coffee server? Luggage and gunfire carrier? Sweep out the place? 😁😁😁😁🙄🙄🙄🙄 God bless all here.

[@onpsxmember]

Watching both side by side, the weight distribution has to be a bit better with equal mass along the magazine instead of the drum at the end and above the bore axis with additional momentum by the spring. If someone else wants to compare: watch?v=T8r6OxScnHg (reduce the speed)

[@11Kralle]

One can hear the sound of this gun in nearly every east-german propaganda movie about the nazi era!

[@puppetguy8726]

You can't say that Germany couldn't build the MP18 anymore and then talk about the German made MP28. Either they could or they couldn't build SMGs 😂 Which they were allowed to btw, it's just that the German army barely could have any

[@seguridadcorporativa2419]

It would be nice if some gun company would/could make these again, with just a few improvements (magazines aceptance and recipricating bold design). It bet the will be acepted .

[@GARDENER42]

The looks, the sound... ...damn, I drooled all over my keyboard, again...

[@Litauen-yg9ut]

Watched alot of your vids, great stuff. Especially the American west and world military weapons. My favorite is the pak 40 vid.

[@lightweight1974]

I'll bet some Elbonian military attache is eyeballing that barrel shroud and wondering where some might be acquired. RFQ's being put together now. They plan to pay in Bit-Mud.

[@raxit1337]

It's interesting that the first german submachine guns superficially resemble the Suomi and PPSh so much, but by the time of the war, the Germans are using a different generation of submachine guns. Afaik, the Russians also went for a more metallic and simple construction later on in the war. I wonder why the Germans ditched the concept before the others.

[@petersack5074]

4:30 Balance ! that, is the KEY ... same as for longer knives, and especially swords. The handle, back end, Must be heavy, and the front part of the hand, is the balance point. On a bullet weapeon, the balance, needs to be THERE . thanks, Mr Ian McCullem..

[@captainscarlett1]

That's what I call a cool gun. If I was rich and lived in the right place, I'd EDC it. (With a C96 sidearm. just to be uber cool.)

[@charles_wipman]

Seems to shoot really well, nice!.

[@Atzy]

"But does it take MP-28 magazines" is the "but does it take glock magazines" of the 30-40s

[@fn5756]

Imagine you're marching through the Teutoburg forest in 9 AD with your Roman battle buddies and suddenly the last thing you hear: 6:33

[@mattilaakso6834]

Did you just get new audio gear? Because this one sounds like the Heat shootout scene, makes me wait for the desperate "Move!" yell and expect to slip on broken glass and casings when getting a coffee refilll.

[@otakubancho6655]

But how does it compare to the P.A.W.S ,enquiring minds want to know?🤔🤔🤔

[@Apfsds120]

Ian, Now you have to make video about switching mp40 and sten mags and try to shoot :) !!!!!!

[@oscargustavoarcosruiz8793]

And ... what was he shooting at? Whenever I see one of these videos I end up with that doubt. Targets, Human figures, Soda bottles, bunnies, the ether?

[@barrydavies998]

Thumbs down .... I want and have asked for down range footage and again, None.... How many mags fulls do we have to watch to get the idea of control from the side/front view?

[@onkelfabs6408]

I don't know for sure but weren't Bergmann and Haenel both based in Suhl? So Schmeisser did not even have to move.

[@dongblak7048]

Soo... The STEN magazine works better in the MP-28 than it would in a STEN.

[@astragreen]

Say what you like, but you can’t beat the STEN gun a feather weight compared to that thing and indeed the Thompson gun!.

[@interstellarlapisthecccp4946]

I recently bought one of these, but the finish on it is a bit gunky. I know some people like the 'battle worn' appearance and as far as I can tell it's all original but I really don't like it lol. Should I re-blue it as well as clean up the stock and bleach the charging handle? I don't know if they came like this but it looks like someone may have blued the handle themselves somewhere down the line; the rest of the bolt is in the white. I would also like to give the whole thing a decent polish.

[@richardtravalini5079]

Ian, Opps! that looked like a flinch. I'm disappointed that you of all people would fall dictum to that age old shooting problem.

[@hafensanger0821]

What a quality! Milled from the full material and with a beautiful wooden buttstock. The later submachine guns were manufactured under the conditions of the war economy and therefore came with stamped parts. The MP38 looks like the cheap version of the MP28. Interestingly, wikipedia believes to know, that MP28 and MP40 weigh about the same when uncharged. About 4 kilograms. The MP28 looks much heavier.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

Ian is Gun Jesus, the walking talking version of "Small arms of the world" come to life.

[@johanvanbeek7138]

The little perfection kiss at the end by Ian was the best!

[@Nedula007]

and the British made the Lancaster , which looks similar. Mostly went to Royal Navy if i am correct.

[@chillinraptor7176]

Don't get me wrong, I really do love any mp28 shooting you can give us. But what about the tiny sten?