The Schuyler Canterbury KJV Bible in Black Calfskin

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R. Grant Jones

R. Grant Jones

6 жыл бұрын

A review of Schuyler's full-sized Canterbury KJV Bible in black calfskin. In this detailed review, I contrast the Canterbury with the R.L. Allan Longprimer.
One of the Canterbury's weaknesses is its lack of translation notes. I shot a few minutes of video on the Longprimer's informative translation notes, but had to leave it out in the interest of time. You can see my review of the Allan Longprimer here • The Allan 62 Longprime... .
Also making brief appearances is the Church Bible Publishers "Turquoise."

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@glenconverse1327
@glenconverse1327 6 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST review of Schuyler's Canterbury Bible on KZbin, based on the precision details. Your reviews are always sincerely appreciated.
@robbyclark6915
@robbyclark6915 10 ай бұрын
I have long wanted a top quality, premium Bible in KJV, but they don’t seem to make the one I’m willing to spend $200-$300 on. I absolutely love the look and styling of the Allan Longprimer 53! Especially in brown with being green a close second. However, the lack of italics and red letter has kept me from spending that type of money for one. I could forgive the black letter only, but the lack of italicized words is unacceptable to me. However with the brown being almost impossible to get anymore I would probably snatch one up if it were reasonable in price. Probably? I have never really been drawn to the Schuyler Bibles for some reason? The way they split up the psalms as you were showing, would drive me insane. I couldn’t handle that. I’m really much more inclined towards the traditional fonts of Allan and Cambridge. I do own a few different CBP bibles, including a mid size turquoise which I read more than anything else. I love that font and the styling of it. I will most likely buy a Cambridge turquoise or Topaz in goatskin. I really just want a brown goatskin, full yapp, which Cambridge does not offer. My ideal bible would probably be the Longprimer in brown WITH italics and red letter. Which isn’t going to happen. Love the reviews!
@matthew4878
@matthew4878 Жыл бұрын
Wow I have that exact same watch. The strap I put on it even looks the same.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones Жыл бұрын
It's a very good watch.
@Pastor4all52
@Pastor4all52 6 жыл бұрын
This Bible is unbelievable! Quality is unsurpassed. This is my favorite Bible in all my collections of Bibles.
@djpodesta
@djpodesta Жыл бұрын
Yes… I purchased the wide margin version, but I am too scared to use it, as it’s delicate beauty looks too easy to spoil… so I ended up buying a cheaper wide margin.
@tendernessforthemonster4517
@tendernessforthemonster4517 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reviewing it. You should run your audio through a de-esser.
@crizzyrilly
@crizzyrilly 3 жыл бұрын
You really give honest reviews that makes you think about what you're buying instead of buying it just because
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered one today. Good review.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
They are taking out all Apocrypha from new KJV versions. Only in expensive 200 - 300 Euro versions you can get it, in low cost versions one can't fine it :/ I bought Oxford Paperback version, they luckily included it.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Hassan! Before around the year 1827, the KJV was printed with the Apocrypha much more often. But in or near that year, the British and Foreign Bible Society decided not to print or distribute Bibles containing the Apocrypha, and their decision was influential.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Can you tell me which leatherback or hardcover KJV with Apocrypha I can buy for low cost? Cambridge paragraphed Bible is one option, but it is not classical. I haven't found any till now which is low cost and also includes apocrypha. Those expensive leather versions cost a fortune, why would anyone buy it at all apart from very old people? :S
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
@@hassanmirza2392 - LOL! Hendrickson prints a hardback 1611 KJV with Apocrypha. It costs about $24. The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha costs about $38. Both are hardbacks.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
The Hendrickson 1611 is printed in a style meant to imitate the Roman type used in that time period, so it may be a bit difficult to read.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Cambridge Paragraph has less poetry and words are changed, and it is less classical feel, I already have bought an NRSV and NJB study version. KJV is not a good study bible as I have read. It has lots of literary value like Lutheran Bible.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 жыл бұрын
I like end of verse references since they are easier to find and don't take up extra space mostly.
@Pastor4all52
@Pastor4all52 5 жыл бұрын
Good point on the dangling words in the Psalms. Really enjoyed your review. Very informative. Thanks, brother.
@gypsylane8723
@gypsylane8723 6 жыл бұрын
Would love one of theses, just love the subject heading in the bible.
@ZenFox0
@ZenFox0 3 жыл бұрын
The emphasis of the Schuyler Canterbury is on readability, hence the clean layout with larger typeface. I like it. The illuminated initial letters are also a beautiful nod to the early KJV bible. As for the Allan Longprimer, I like the traditional look of its typeface, and the center column of references with approximate dates for each chapter. It has a better layout for detailed bible study. The Longprimer may have larger type for the glossary, but I personally feel the airy layout of the Schuyler glossary, with more white space, makes it easier to read and less claustrophobic. I do agree with you about the line breaks for Psalms, although portraying them as poetry is a very nice concept. They’re both beautiful bibles. I appreciate your comprehensive reviews with phenomenal close-ups of the two bibles. Keep up the great work!
@christophersmeltser6564
@christophersmeltser6564 5 жыл бұрын
Very good review. Such precision is much appreciated.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the view and the comment! Glad you liked the video.
@BiblicalStudiesandReviews
@BiblicalStudiesandReviews 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos for sometime now. I didn’t realize you had reviewed this bible. I am covetous. 😂
@brotherarn
@brotherarn 4 жыл бұрын
You did an outstanding review. Thank you for sharing your insights with us.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to view and comment on the video!
@danwood4631
@danwood4631 5 жыл бұрын
Magnificent review!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dan, for those kind words.
@nate296
@nate296 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this detailed review. I've been considering getting a nice full sized Bible as I lack one. I really like a lot of the aesthetics of this Bible, but there's just a few things that really kind of bug me about it that you pointed out here. It's just so close to what I'm looking for, though. Decisions, decisions.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean! It seems like there is always at least one thing I wish the publishers had done differently. And the question is, is that flaw fatal?
@engjds
@engjds 4 ай бұрын
@@RGrantJones Is there a Bible with similar quality in build and readability, a bit cheaper than this?
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 жыл бұрын
If I were to buy another Schuyler than Quentel... I might consider this.. If is right font and in calfskin. I don't buy goatskin. If I can avoid it.
@engjds
@engjds 4 ай бұрын
Why not goatskin?
@daniellane5483
@daniellane5483 2 жыл бұрын
Great work brother!! Very intricate and calming review. 🙏
@hayahmelek4485
@hayahmelek4485 5 жыл бұрын
Europeans would not read SCHUYLER as "SKYLER" but as "SHUYLER" / SCHUJLER" where "U" is read as in Utah. We could also say "SHOYLER", which does not have any direct meaning. Both ways this is a close to German "scheu" - meaning "shy" or "Schueler" - meaning Student but also Scholar.
@JohnDoe-eh5ee
@JohnDoe-eh5ee 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Colorado, USA. The first time I read Schuyler I read it as "Shoo lur". Schu like shoo away and lur like lurking around. Then later i found out about the Skyler pronounciation.
@ZenFox0
@ZenFox0 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on which Europeans. If it’s pronounced with a German accent, yes, but Schuyler is a Dutch name pronounced similar to “Skyler,” but with with a slightly softer “ch” sound, similar to the “ch” in Scottish “loch.” The German version of this name is Schüler, pronounced as you indicated. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuyler_(name) en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schuyler
@Robin-px9rc
@Robin-px9rc 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative review. I think I'm with you on the break-up of the lines in Psalms. I like the single column format, but I don't know what they were thinking with those weird line breaks. As far as the font goes, I think the Canterbury is just what I need. I purchased the CBP Turquoise and I thought it would be great because it's so large and bold, but in reality, it just seems distracting. But when I use the Clarion or the Concord, it seems to work better for me, except for it being too small. Looks like the Canterbury will fit the bill. Disappointed there are no helps in the back like the ones in the Longprimer or the Turquoise. Great review!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
I hope it works out for you. It *is* a very nice Bible.
@BibleLovingLutheran
@BibleLovingLutheran 5 жыл бұрын
I thought about one but now I ask myself ,”why”? I have a Cambridge Turquoise and a Cameo. Love my Cameo. My Concord is pretty well done too. A little inconsistency in ink darkness on Concord.
@ymshao
@ymshao 3 жыл бұрын
Is it using Cambridge text?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't a Pure Cambridge Edition, but I can't guarantee that no Cambridge Bible ever has had this text. Thanks for the question, Yi-Ming Shao!
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
My aim to own a King James is that it is classical. Is The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha also classical to read? This Canterbury KJV reads like Oxford paperback, which is poetical. So, will The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible read like this one too, in a poetical way? I understand that 1611 version is mostly unreadable now, but still the Oxford provides poetry version in their paperback. I checked, you are correct. The 1611 KJV is unreadable, not even Oxford Version is this much cryptic. And what's the difference between The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha and NKJV? Both sound the same to me. ;)
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
Hassan - the NKJV made many alterations, to include replacing the archaic verb endings (hath, hast) and pronouns (ye, thou). In comparison, the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible is a light revision. It retained most of those out-of-date forms of expression, but it did reformat the text into paragraphs, modernize spellings, and inserts quotation marks. The KJV has been lightly modified a few times over the years in similar ways by various editors. In my opinion, the KJV is still readable, but it was the first translation I was exposed to and I've been reading it all my life.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones ok, thanks. I think Oxford is using 1966 translation. I read some of KJV 1611 on internet, it is really painful. I think this Cambridge version looks excellent, I will buy it later. KJV and Jewish Bible - Tanakh are special Bibles I think, nice collectables. But not good to know about new scholarship. But to know more about Bibles I will rely on Catholic versions probably. I must say that in the last few months I went from zero to knowing everything about the world of Bibles and Judaism-Christianity. Useful activity to kill corona-stress ;) Since Bible is a translated book, the emphasis is on translation. Quran we read only in classical Arabic, with some translation. The Bible world is full of translations, its a different universe.
@fumastertoo
@fumastertoo 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent review sir, you never disappoint. That is a very nice looking Bible, and I always appreciate the look of those fancy Bible manufacturer's. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be able to get a Schuyler or an Allen. Have a blessed day!
@barmstrong25
@barmstrong25 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very good review!
@simplynaturalnyc2775
@simplynaturalnyc2775 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for such a wonderful and meticulous review on the full size Canterbury. I’ve enjoyed your reviews tremendously and have subscribed. Also due to your attention to detail I went ahead and purchased the new full size yapp Black Canterbury which will be shipped out in late June. Schuyler posted pictures on Facebook recently. I would thoroughly enjoy hearing your thoughts on this new limited edition version and if they improve upon the faux pas in Psalms. Thank You for all your wonderful work!
@XwynntopiaX
@XwynntopiaX 4 жыл бұрын
A most excellent review. I have a couple Bibles with LCBP before they split. I have never bought a CBP Bible, I do like my two LCBP Bibles-one is a Executive Notetakers Bible, and then also the smaller, hand size “paragraph reader’s Bible, which is a nice Bible. I appreciate the way you style your reviews, thank you so much!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Winnie!
@perrymihalakos2119
@perrymihalakos2119 5 жыл бұрын
Another great review. The colons used in the psalms here in the Canterbury are perplexing. Typically, colons (or asterisks, etc.) are there to mark the Caesura, the central pause in each psalm verse, so to guide those of us who read aloud or chant the psalms. (Line breaks can be arbitrary in a psalter, because it is the Caesura that anchors the rhythm and cadence, not the line ending, so it's not quite the same thing as enjambment in written poetry.) However, it is unusual, though not unheard of, to include a marked psalter in a bible. In any case, here the colons are clearly not used for this purpose, at least not consistently. They anchor nothing and seem to be randomly peppered into the verses with no apparent meaning.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
That's a very informative comment. I don't recall whether Schuyler introduced any unusual punctuation into the book of Psalms in this edition. But I believe Schuyler did intend to format the psalms as poetry.
@stevebriner3362
@stevebriner3362 6 жыл бұрын
What a refreshing review of a bible that everyone is gushing over recently, the Canterbury. I never have seen a review that points out these various "flaws" in the typesetting. I also find the gap between the block and leather cover to be troublesome.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve. I do admire the Canterbury. The designers did some quality work to make it aesthetically pleasing. I just prefer other options. At the end of the day, functionality is more important to me than beauty. To turn the Longprimer into a perfect KJV, I'd simply italicize translator-supplied text and add a tiny bit more space between the lines. My list of necessary changes for the Canterbury would be much longer!
@snowpuppy77
@snowpuppy77 4 жыл бұрын
Really just an excellent review! Totally agree with you on the Catnerbury Psalms. It is half baked and not fully and painstakingly arranged with the respect it deserves. I would really love to see you do a review of the Schuyler Treveris. I wonder if the Treveris has the Psalms poetic layout thoughtfully done. New subscriber.
@snowpuppy77
@snowpuppy77 3 жыл бұрын
By the way I eventually got a Canterbury and I must say that I love it. It is beautiful and I just can't seem to put it down. I am thinking it is the most readable Bible I have ever used even compared to the Turquoise and the Longprimer. I only felt this way after spending plenty of quality time with the Canterbury. I still agree with you that the Psalms do not always break up the text by line where it makes the most sense but really not that much of an issue to me as I thought it would be. I still find reading the Psalms in the Canterbury a real pleasure. It is interesting to note that the Schuyler Treveris does the line breaks in Psalm 2 exactly like you are recommending in this video. By the way the Treveris is the most beautiful Bible I have used. A reader like the Treveris is a nice change of pace compared to a verse by verse. Though I do prefer verse by verse when teaching or following the preacher.
@joshuahoward7567
@joshuahoward7567 4 жыл бұрын
Now you can get the personal size in black letter too. But I’m with you I wish they had a line of bibles that where in the middle of the full size and the personal size with 9.5 font they should call the personal size a compact and make a new personal size I.M.O.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Joshua! I was happy with the font size in the new Schuyler wide-margin NASB. It works better with my eyes, but it's still printed too lightly in my opinion.
@geraldparker8125
@geraldparker8125 6 жыл бұрын
When the binding shows that kind of ride-up between the signature threads and the surface to which they attach, I take a very fine watercolours brush, dip in in strong white glue (not the school stuff for the kiddies), and insert the hairs of the brush into the gap, then press it firmly with a knife or with my fingers on the spine. Then let it sit for a few hours to dry completely, and that problem will disappear. I suspect that the ribbons inside the spine may affect how much the binding clings together as desired. No problem. The solution is easy and with a FINE BRUSH, it is not necessary to slop glue all over the area.
@joshuahoward7567
@joshuahoward7567 4 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews sir. I’m looking for the right KJV for me and your leading me in the direction of the concord I like how the text is clean being I don’t use references much at all I guess that why my main bibles are Schuylers they keep them at the bottom out of my way
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for those kind words, Joshua Howard! My only caution about the Concord is that in some copies the print varies in darkness significantly from page to page. I believe I showed that in my Concord review video.
@einarengemoen2486
@einarengemoen2486 2 жыл бұрын
What makes you prefer the Longprimer before the Concord?
@jayman1338
@jayman1338 4 жыл бұрын
Great review!!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jay Man!
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 жыл бұрын
Cambridge or church bible publishers TURQUOISE is easier to read than Canterbury. I think.
@robbyclark6915
@robbyclark6915 4 жыл бұрын
Your review is the only one I’ve seen so far that makes a point of the odd way they broke up the psalms. Idk if the others didn’t notice it or just didn’t care, because to me, that seems like a flaw? Why would you take the effort to do the psalms in “poetry “ and then break the verses up in such unusual places? Just doesn’t make good sense. The more I see of these Schuyler bibles the less of a fan I become.
@christiancurcio2576
@christiancurcio2576 6 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the black letter turquoise as well. Have you heard when a black letter edition will be offered?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
No, unfortunately. Not even a rumor.
@bstring3967
@bstring3967 4 жыл бұрын
At 28:38 frame change I think I saw part of a big beard enter the camera shot quickly hahaha.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, my beard did make a brief appearance at that spot! It's much shorter now, so that's unlikely to happen again.
@Airik1111bibles
@Airik1111bibles 6 жыл бұрын
An excellent review once again,the waisted space with both the Quentel and Canterbury is a puzzle to me. The size of the concordance font also makes no sense considering the empty spaces on the page. I was gifted a Turquoise CBP brother so I will be able to review one, I'm very excited to see the bible first hand. I didn't keep their purple hand size long enough to fully appreciate the text, but from memory it was very nice in that size. I also have the 53LP Brown which will not be reviewed over private reasons😉 BUT boy is it beautiful, a true work of art and the first Allan I had ever seen, its the bible that started my quest for the perfect KJV....I love it! That bible replaced my Nasb Reader and now that bible can bless someone else. I'm actually looking at getting the Compact CBP edition that I also reviewed along side the hand size Turquoise, IMHO you would probably find that bible to be very nice. The paper they used is different than any other bible I've reviewed, the print was the darkest I've seen out of all the bibles I've reviewed. I'd like to compare their compact with some Cambridge bibles I have coming soon, I think many folks need to see that it is a very good alternative for a lot less money. I am like you in regards to the Schuyler, I liked my NKJV Quentel but it just didn't grab me for some reason. One thing that really bugged me was their choice of red letter, it is far to bland I'd rather have all black and am slowly becoming a black letter fan thanks to you. Don't get me wrong, I love a good red letter but, it ruins the reading experience when poorly executed. Another thing about the Schuyler is the weight, they are VERY heavy bibles which can be a pain. I really look forward to getting a PSQ NKJV, when that one comes out I will be truly divided on getting red letter or not, if its the usual bland red than I'm going black. Thanks again for the show!
@Airik1111bibles
@Airik1111bibles 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Caputi Honestly I'd much rather have the PSQ, they seem to be in that perfect spot for a take everywhere bible. I want the black with red someday and am waiting for the NKJV psq release. I say get one ....maybe sale one of your other bibles or trade for one😉
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
Of the upcoming Schuylers, I'm most interested in the wide margins. I'd prefer an NKJV or KJV with all black letters, a font no smaller than 9 pt, and symmetric margins, perhaps a bit wider at the gutter. We'll see what they do. If that option doesn't work out, the Nelson NKJV Comfort Print Preaching Bible might be worthwhile. That CBP Compact did look appealing in your video. The paper and print were both impressive.
@geraldparker8125
@geraldparker8125 6 жыл бұрын
What a pity that this lovely edition did not go further to include the Apocrypha! It has all of the other bells and whistles that one desires.
@geraldparker8125
@geraldparker8125 6 жыл бұрын
Despite the fault of lacking the Apocrypha, this Bible is so elegant and easy on the eyes that I would want it anyhow!
@bstring3967
@bstring3967 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mr Jones love your precise bible critiques. Has this Bible grown on you I’m curious. I find the paper color is different in the nkjv to the Canterbury Schuyler, more yellow. And I find the font plenty bold compared to my csb and cbp note takers but not as good as the Thomas Nelson comfort print, yet still plenty good and can read without my reading glasses pretty comfortably. So blessed to have so many translations and bible editions. God bless
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind comment, G String! No, the Canterbury mostly sits in its box waiting for another opportunity to appear in a Bible review. I agree with you that the font is better than that in the CBP NoteTakers Bible, but it just isn't bold enough for me. We're all wired differently, and it's likely that I'm in the minority on this point. The Schuyler Quentels appear to be quite popular, even though they're now printed on thinner paper, which would tend to enhance the newsprint effect.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
How much obsolete is KJV compared to modern NRSV or ESV in your opinion? Many people say it is quite outdated now, although still the best piece of English literature. I have KJV Paragraph Bible.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
I read the KJV often and appreciate the quality of its prose. In the New Testament, there are only a few passages where it is obscure. In the Old Testament, particularly in Job and some of the prophetic books, the KJV can be unclear. I don't think of the KJV as obsolete, but it is more challenging to understand than the modern translations you mention. Sometimes I regard that difficulty as an advantage, particularly when the KJV is puzzling because it reflects an ambiguity in the original language. On the whole, I find the KJV more easy to comprehend than Shakespeare.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 3 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Only reason I will read KJV is that it is better than any of the English literature out there.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 жыл бұрын
Font ? Cost ?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 жыл бұрын
evangelicalbible.com/product-category/schuyler-bibles/schuyler-canterbury-kjv/
@patrat6770
@patrat6770 6 жыл бұрын
Great review, love the details, however I reached a different conclusion. I prefer the Canterbury over the LP and the Turquoise. I find the columns in the Turquoise are a bit too narrow and like you said, the print is smaller in the LP. The Canterbury as a reader is just right, but if you want a reference edition the Longprimer might be the better option.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how we all have different tastes, and a good thing we have several high-quality choices!
@wordoflife2823
@wordoflife2823 6 жыл бұрын
R. Grant Jones do the narrow columns in the turquoise make it uncomfortable to read?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
From what I've observed interacting with people, some like narrow columns and some don't. I think we're all wired differently. For myself, I like the narrow columns (a little over 30 characters per line) in the Turquoise. I find the wider columns troublesome because my eye has to toe a straight line all the way across the page, but switching lines frequently is a breeze for me. So the Turquoise and I get along well. (I'm just holding out for Cambridge to print it in all black letters.) But it might not work that way for you! In my CBP Turquoise review I quoted the number of characters per line in the Turquoise (30), Allan Longprimer (35), and Canterbury (36). Those numbers came from choosing five lines with small words packed tightly on them, counting the characters (including spaces and punctuation marks), and averaging over the five values. The column width is: Turquoise (53 to 54 mm), Longprimer (55 mm), and Canterbury (60 mm). The Canterbury is advertised as 11 points, but the capital T is the size of a Times New Roman 10.5 pt, while lower case characters look close to 12 point Times New Roman. Capitals in the Turquoise are also 10.5 pt TNR, but the lowercase letters are around 10.5 or 11 pt. The Longprimer capitals are also around 10.5 pt TNR equivalent, while the lowercase letters are somewhere between 10 and 10.5. The line spacing is generous in the Canterbury, good in the Turquoise, and on the stingy side in the Longprimer (but I like it just fine). Another way to measure it is to take the height of a column and divide it by the number of lines, then divide that by 0.3514. That gives you the number of points in the Pica system. It measures character size and leading together in a lumped fashion. Here's what I get --Canterbury: 11.8 pt. Turquoise: 11 pt. Longprimer: 10 pt. I hope that's helpful.
@wordoflife2823
@wordoflife2823 6 жыл бұрын
R. Grant Jones wow that was so informative thank you!! I didn't know you knew so much about bible construction and printing lol. That helps a lot!! Im just trying to find a bible that isn't super heavy and has minimal to no ghosting that is eady to read! I have a Holman kjv now and I can't read it because of the ghosting. It gives me a headache! So this is my mission to find an easy to read bible! I must admit though I think r l allan bibles have the absolute best binding out of any of them. Do you find the tight leading between the lines bothersome to you when you read the allan longprimer?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
No, it really doesn't bother me. I'm not sure why. The leading isn't as large as I'd like, but it's acceptable. I think it may be because the print and paper quality are so good, and because the columns are relatively narrow, so that my eye doesn't feel trapped in a close space. I've had Bibles where the line spacing was so close that I just stopped using them. But not the Longprimer. However, as they used to say in commercials, your results may vary. After all, just about everyone loves the Canterbury, but of the three (Turquoise, Longprimer, and Canterbury), I put the Canterbury dead last.
@BMB125
@BMB125 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently started looking into this Bible more, it is absolutely beautiful! I hope they bring back the black soon, but the tan one they have now is amazing too.
@kimmyduran1748
@kimmyduran1748 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if they still sell this edition or where I could buy one? I looked online but I only see the red letter edition with the 28 gsm paper and I would really like this black letter edition with the 36 gsm paper. Thank you in advance and God bless you!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question, Kimmy! No, if you can't find it at the Evangelical Bible web site, Schuyler stopped printing it. Sorry.
@RoastBeefSandwich
@RoastBeefSandwich 5 жыл бұрын
Just can't get past the drop cap flourish on these. The sharp contrast between that and the sterile digital font is too striking and doesn't jive with me for the money.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
Good points. But apparently it sells very well, so there must be quite a few people who disagree with us.
@RoastBeefSandwich
@RoastBeefSandwich 5 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones agreed, and it is amazing how much choice we have in English bibles today. We live in the best time to read the Bible I think.
@radical7663
@radical7663 5 жыл бұрын
The cost of sending this item is $75! Absolute disgrace. Allan sends theirs out for FREE - worldwide! The lady stated that due to being such a poor revenue shop it wasn’t possible to send out for free - so this massive fine / penalty is added if you live in the UK - probably their next biggest importer! I will never by a bible from these greedy merchants at that hideous price. I’ll stick to Allan Thank you very much
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
That *is* expensive. I've seen a few books for sale from the UK on eBay. I've considered buying them, but the shipping cost has dissuaded me so far. But it's nothing like $75. Closer to $25 if I recall correctly. Surely Evangelical Bible can find a less expensive way to distribute these.
@zerochaos360
@zerochaos360 4 жыл бұрын
Would you consider this the best KJV Bible on the market? Not looking for a study version but rather the best layout, quality, readability, overall. Does Schuyler or Allan or Cambridge have any better model? Thank you.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the TBS Westminster, but it isn't available in a premium cover anymore, as far as I know. Thanks for the question, zerochaos360!
@JohnBruski
@JohnBruski 3 жыл бұрын
No, for the best get the goatskin edge lined.
@KW-cq4yr
@KW-cq4yr 5 жыл бұрын
Hey there nice review I am in search of a new bible. Would you suggest the kjv or the nkjv. I have seen a lot of debates saying to stick with the kjv over the newer translations. I like the ideal of making it easier to read and understand. But I also would like to make sure I am not getting something that is got a bunch of fake or misleading words thanks for your time.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 5 жыл бұрын
K W - I suggest you take a look at the NKJV at biblegateway.com and see if you like how it reads. Compare it with your KJV. In the New Testament, the NKJV and the KJV are based on the same Greek text. Apart from using more modern English, the NKJV also sometimes differs from the KJV where the NKJV translators follow modern lexicons and so interpret Greek words differently. There are more high-quality KJV editions available out there, like the Turquoise and the Allan Longprimer, but Nelson has improved its NKJV editions recently. Their Single-Column Reference Bible with the Comfort Print typeface is very good, if you don't mind the format. Unfortunately, I don't know of a verse-by-verse NKJV with center column references and quality binding, typeface, and paper that I can recommend.
@wordoflife2823
@wordoflife2823 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know the exact poundage on this bible? I wanted a bible I can take to church but was afraid of this one being to heavy.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know the exact weight, but I weighed myself first, then myself plus the calfskin Canterbury, using my beam balance bathroom scale, which is pretty accurate. I get something between 3 and 3 1/16 pounds. (Now to start that diet!)
@wordoflife2823
@wordoflife2823 6 жыл бұрын
R. Grant Jones lol thanks for weighing it for me! Do you find this bible very heavy or does it seem regular to you? Im just curious because I really want to buy this bible but I have carpal tunnel syndrome and holding a very heavy book in my hands to read can be a problem. Thank you for replying
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
It feels solid and dense. If I had to hold it in my hands for an extended period of time, I think my arms would tire. If I hold it in my hands with my hands resting on my legs, I think I could hold it indefinitely. It's lighter than my calfskin ESV Study Bible, but heavier than my Allan 53 Longprimer and my CBP Turquoise.
@wordoflife2823
@wordoflife2823 6 жыл бұрын
R. Grant Jones ok thank you for your help I am trying to figure out which bible would be the best for me. I wish I could buy all of them but I can't afford that right now lol
@jesselawrence6773
@jesselawrence6773 6 жыл бұрын
Is it Red Letter?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 6 жыл бұрын
No, this one isn't. I believe the Personal Size Canterbury has red letters.
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@hedonisteuphony5779 5 жыл бұрын
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@Nick-wn1xw 4 жыл бұрын
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@ScottWConvid19 4 жыл бұрын
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